ORG files on 3Ddownloads are a joke

[Turbo]

For the last 2 weeks I have been trying off and on to download ORG files off of 3D Downloads. The 15-20 minute stand in line download is lame enough, but most of the time the server doesn't even find the files.

Personally I am really disappointed in the decision by Totalwar.org to put files on 3D Downloads. Others have posted on here that 3D Downloads system sucks, but no one seems interested or cares. Hopefully someone here will wake up and realize that the users on here are being done a real disservice or do everyone a kindness and just delete the download files.

[solypsist]

our system admin, Barocca is currently away, so that might have something to do with your problems.

[KukriKhan]

Meanwhile...is there a particular file you're trying to get? Some are available thru other sites.

[WesW]

I had problems the first time I tried to use the 3D site as well. I got an email from one of their tech guys asking for additional info, as he said this was something that occurred occasionally. All I know is that I tried for a second time the next day, and it worked. The standard reply, which I got in addition to the tech guy's, said to enable cookies. Well, my cookies are on, so I suspect it has to do with initializing the cookie or something. I also have Win2K, which may be part of the problem.

[Wellington]

Quote[/b] (Turbo @ April 06 2003,14:34)]For the last 2 weeks I have been trying off and on to download ORG files off of 3D Downloads. The 15-20 minute stand in line download is lame enough, but most of the time the server doesn't even find the files.

Personally I am really disappointed in the decision by Totalwar.org to put files on 3D Downloads. Others have posted on here that 3D Downloads system sucks, but no one seems interested or cares. Hopefully someone here will wake up and realize that the users on here are being done a real disservice or do everyone a kindness and just delete the download files.
Without wishing to appear critical I agree.

My problem is that the 3Ddownloads ALWAYS hangs when I try a download and, believe me, I've tried every trick in the book to try and ascertain just where the problem lies - unsuccessfully http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

I know both Barroca and TosaInu have been looking at this problem but, for what it's worth, I suspect the problem lies at the 3ddownload end.

I currently have 2 things I wish to upload to The Org (SPM - a Shield Position Modifer utility and the latest version of LMM) but I'm not going to even try unless I know I can also download whatever I upload and check the uploads correct.

[Alrowan]

ive only had one problem with it, and it wasnt like any of those. Ill post my settings for IE when i get home this evening

[spmetla]

Whenever I try to download all I get is a 15.2kb file. After my harddrive crashed I wanted to get my mod off the Org. But alas I could not. So I had to redo the entire campaign mod. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mecry.gif

[rory_20_uk]

Wow Sorry to hear that http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gif
Well, as there seems to be a lot of bed feeling towards the current situation, what other alternatives to people think would work? Would habing mirrors at say lycos, geocities and the rest be a good idea? They could certainly host most of the smaller files with ease.
This couldbe upgraded to a paid for repository if people could be relied on to click on certain banners when they use the site, providing the money to continue the site's existence.
Personally I think that the way that the files are handled at the moment is very annoying especially as my computer gets a "key expired" message if I try to download more than one file at a time.
If there is any cncensus as to what needs to be done, I'm sure that with the ability here a pseudo ftp site could easily be created. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

[WesW]

Well, I have about half of my 100meg allotment at Apolyton that is unused, so if some of you have completed mods that you want to post, I will be happy to host them. Just contact me by email first with what you have, and let me set up a time to receive the mod, since I only have a 26K connection.

[rory_20_uk]

Can others upload to your site? I have a nice LAN connection, curtesy of my college, and as it is Easter, it is nice and fast at the moment. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[Portuguese Rebel]

3ddownloads are a complete joke, they allways make you wait so that you can see their dumb adds. Come on dudes, even a yahoo group account would provide better hosting. it's got be a better way than this... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/frown.gif

[rory_20_uk]

I agree with that completely. Why don't you set up a yahoo account, and put at least the smaller files on it? I fyou release the logon and passowrd to sensible users here, they can upload files themselves.Just a thought... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smokin.gif

[Swordsman]

Double-ditto I've simply given up trying to download anything. I have a broadband connection and still always have to sit thru 5 minutes of ads. Then, half the time there is some kind of glitch that forces me to try again (MORE ads). Guys, it's dysfunctional. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pissed.gif

[WesW]

Quote[/b] (rory_20_uk @ April 09 2003,12:44)]Can others upload to your site?
Uh..............no. Having the password to the page could enable hackers to do some bad stuff to the whole site, so I have to keep that to myself.

Most of the files made for MTW are pretty small compared to some of the things for the Civ-type games (my Medmod II was 30 megs), so I could easily host a lot of stuff on 50 megs.

The reason I specified completed mods was so that I would not get into a situation where people were counting on me to promptly post mods that were in development. Creators need to set up a temp account on one of the free sites while they are in development, and then they could send the mod to me and/or the org.

[barocca]

The decision to move the files was not made by us but by our host, who actually closed the Org down for a day because hosting files on this server is apparently a breach of service, (our host owns 3D and TF)

Personally i never have any trouble downloading the files from 3D,
you need cookies enabled,
you cannot right click and save as, you must click the links and wait for 3d to start the download from their end,
Try setting 3D as a trusted site in IE options,

i have never experienced a fifteen minute download wait,
i don't know whats happening with that,

IF someone can track down a free files host that can hold in excess of a gig of files then i will be very happy to mirror the orgs file set on that host.
NOT a site host, there are plenty of those, a FILES ONLY host, and it MUST be happy to host more than 1 gig of files, because thats what we have.

and Wellington, you know as well as i do that uploads remain at the upload area on THIS server for a week BEFORE moving to the 3D server, so you have plenty of time to check your file uploaded correctly, please upload LMM and SPM.


Guys, this site is run by volunteers, who work here during their free time,
the site generates ZERO income, so we have to go with free hosts,
if you are having a problem with a particular file then email me with the exact address of the file and i'll check it out

[TosaInu]

Junior members and 'up' will find a new link in the forum menubar, next to Chat and Log out. That site can't host 900+ mb, but it offers a fair selection.

This is what you should see when using that link:

http://www.totalwar.org/tosa/Files.gif

[Knight_Yellow]

thanks tosa

[Wellington]

Quote[/b] (barocca @ April 19 2003,05:34)]and Wellington, you know as well as i do that uploads remain at the upload area on THIS server for a week BEFORE moving to the 3D server, so you have plenty of time to check your file uploaded correctly, please upload LMM and SPM.
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

Er ... as The Org is now only a one-week repository for downloads I fail to understand your reasoning. I CAN download from The Org - as I always have been able to. I CANNOT download from 3ddownloads.

As The Org now uses 3ddownloads, what is the point of ensuring The Orgs download (available for just ONE WEEK) works correctly - as it does it my case? The Org is NOT the problem, rather 3ddownloads - read my previous post.

If The Org allowed downloads for ONE YEAR as opposed to ONE WEKK, itwould'nt be a problem would it

The PROBLEM is specifically 3ddownloads and many people (myself included) just CANNOT download anything from 3ddownloads, whatever they try/do/amend ...

... as many posts in many threads over the last 4 months testify to


(PS: Nice to see you back B http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif )

(PPS: A couple of people have SPM at present - mainly the Patritian guys - and LMM4v3 WILL be uploaded when I can download from 3ddownloads; not just the one week Org repository)

[barocca]

i'm assuming by now everyone has read this thread,
3D Downloads - How to and Why (http://www.totalwar.org/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=15;t=6215)

[Lord Of Storms]

No problems downloading any files at all the only problem I can see is sometimes the wait can be long, so I time it for early A.M. or late P.M. and no probs http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Portuguese Rebel]

Enable cookies? I would rather eat a shoe...

If you guys can't get the files (just like i couldn't) use netscape... But 3ddownloads are no service.

They que you up 5 minutes all the time so that you can see their adds, and then, sometimes, it wont work and you have to restart the process. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

Come on guys, you are afraid of hackers? why would someone atack this site and what would be the worst they could do? you do have backups don't you?

That reasoning is like: "i wont go out in the street, there are killers out there...".

A yahoo group account would beat 3ddowloads easy http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif

[barocca]

current GMT is 12 noon,
there are currently no queues at 3D,
none - nada - zip,
i just scaned 20 files in half a dozen categories...
- all downloads are quick and delay free.


BTW
the org has an alternate server, click the link at the top of the forum between control panel and log-out,


AS FOR
yahoo group accounts, they don't allow 1 Gigabyte of files and we actually have MORE than that, but 1Gig is what we hold on 3D at the moment,


ALSO
using 3D for our file storage is part of our terms of service with our host - we have NO choice about that.


FINALLY,
why is everyone so paranoid about cookies?
read this the Truth about Cookies (http://www.tomug.org/cookie.html)