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I'm pissed off.
I share a large office with three other people, a kind of mini cubicle-farm. Our cleaning and janitorial services are provided through Goodwill, and most (I believe) of the cleaners are from halfway homes for one reason or another.
This afternoon, I was listening to a podcast while sorting through a large case. A new cleaning lady that I had never seen before showed up and asked if I wanted my cubicle cleaned. I said yes, detached my headphones and put them on my desk, stuffed my iphone into my pocket, and went to talk to a friend in a different office while the cleaning was being done. When I came back, the desk had been cleaned and the headphones were gone. I searched the entire office from top to bottom, twice, but they weren't there. I found the cleaning lady and asked her if she had seen them when she was cleaning, or perhaps moved them. She denied having any knowledge of them.
I very strongly believe that the cleaning lady stole my headphones. There is no other explanation for their disappearance. At the same time, I am very frustrated because I feel like reporting this is the wrong thing to do. I feel like I'm living a cliche. The headphones were just the stock white ones that come with an iphone; they cost $30 from Apple. On a material level, the headphones mean nothing to me. I'm a highly-paid white male attorney... I'm pretty much the living embodiment of 'privilege' in our society. In contrast, the cleaning lady is clearly an impoverished minority with little education.
I've thought about what would happen if I reported this. I'm not likely to get my headphones back no matter what; if she did steal them, she won't ever admit to it. So, this is really just a decision of whether or not to report her and possibly get her fired from her job (three weeks before Christmas). Even though I feel very strongly that she did indeed steal my headphones, there's always a possibility that there's some innocent explanation for their disappearance. Maybe they got knocked off my desk into some random crevice where I just can't find them, or something like that. I give that option a 5% chance of being true. However, if I report this, that's a 5% chance that she's going to get fired for the accidental loss of a $30 set of headphones, right before Christmas. At the same time, even if she did steal them, it's just $30 out of my pocket and she could lose her job. I feel like I would be a something of a monster to pursue action against her given the extreme disparity in the respective importance of the event.
So, I've decided not going to report her. However, and this is the point of my post, I feel angry at this situation. Somehow, it seems to me that this woman stole from me, and yet I've ended up feeling guilty about it. How did that happen? Why did it happen? Is this some kind of personal guilt-complex about our disparate socio/economic backgrounds? Am I wrong to feel this way, or is this natural? Am I helping society as a whole by not causing major problems for this woman, or am I hurting it by letting a thief go unpunished?
(Posting this in the Backroom, as I believe this topic essentially boils down to some potentially controversial economic and social issues.)
Strike For The South
12-06-2010, 21:50
Stealing someone elses property is morally wrong, so you shouldn't feel upset about that.
I think you feel bad because society at large tells you to feel bad for those less fortunate, which isn't necesarilly a bad thing as most of us are few unfortunate circumstances away from a postion not unlike hers. Not to mention a lack of fiscal means has no correlation with the moral goodness of a person (as I'm sure you know but is oft forgotten)
In your position I probably wouldn't have reported her either, but I certianly wouldn't feel bad or guilty about it. I would also watch her like a hawk and nail her if this becomes a repeating pattern
Humilty is a wonderful viture to have, knowing that you are not an all powerful being over others is something this country could use more of but this does not mean she can go around all handsy. If she's willing to steal 1 30$ pair of headphones she is probably willing to steal something else and soon.
Fool me once.....
rory_20_uk
12-06-2010, 21:51
At the risk of getting another warning: you're an idiot.
If you report them missing they can look for them. It's not accusing anyone, but pointing out the temporal relationship when they disappeared.
But if you'd rather apologise for existing, then why not leave your watch / ipod / laptop around next time they're cleaning? You'd be breaking the cycle of crime and poverty by ensuring that crime pays... :wall:
~:smoking:
I didn't issue a warning as per TC's request. You could have skipped the shot though.
Sasaki Kojiro
12-06-2010, 21:52
I think it's good to feel bad enough about getting someone fired right before Christmas that you don't say anything. I don't see why that would have to be some kind of sociological guilt complex either. It's good to have an aversion to petty things, and so I think it's natural to avoid that situation.
Essentially, reporting it is not wrong in the sense of unjust, but wrong because it's wrong to not be somewhat disgusted by the idea of making a fuss and getting someone fired over it. There's no way you should feel guilty about it though--you're just being a good person, which tends to involve a little bit of being taken advantage of by the immoral.
Strike For The South
12-06-2010, 21:59
At the risk of getting another warning: you're an idiot.
If you report them missing they can look for them. It's not accusing anyone, but pointing out the temporal relationship when they disappeared.
But if you'd rather apologise for existing, then why not leave your watch / ipod / laptop around next time they're cleaning? You'd be breaking the cycle of crime and poverty by ensuring that crime pays... :wall:
~:smoking:
It was a pair of headphones
Crime certainly doesn't pay in this scenario, crime probably won't even play music in another 3 months
Sure he could report them lost but then he has to deal with "Bro they were headphones" from all his coleagues (whom I'm sure would assume TC is either the cheapest man alive or has an ulterior motive at that point)
At the risk of getting another warning: you're an idiot.
Hopefully no warning is forthcoming, as this pretty much states in simple terms, half of my conflict. My anger about this is because I feel like I'm being taken advantage of due to (ironically) my own advantageous situation... I'm letting myself be a door mat simply because it doesn't really matter to me. And yet I just can't overcome the feeling that it's not worth it for me to pursue this.
If you report them missing they can look for them. It's not accusing anyone, but pointing out the temporal relationship when they disappeared.
It doesn't work like that, because in order to report the events, I have to say that they went missing right after the cleaning lady was in my office. There is no way to report the event without accusing her, even if I don't name her specifically, because she's the only cleaning lady on our floor today. If I omit the reference the the cleaning lady, I might as well just say I lost them in the bathroom or something, it defeats the whole purpose. It's kind of an all or nothing situation. I accuse her or I don't.
I will heed your request this time and not issue a warning.
Moral of the story, she shouldn't have stole headphones and broken the trust you had in her.
Hosakawa Tito
12-07-2010, 00:46
How many people have access to that cubicle? Was there any time lapse between when the cleaning lady finished and left and your return to that cubicle? Could the headphones have been accidently knocked into the waste basket and then thrown out with the trash? Ask around the office and see if other items have gone missing.
How many people have access to that cubicle? Was there any time lapse between when the cleaning lady finished and left and your return to that cubicle? Could the headphones have been accidently knocked into the waste basket and then thrown out with the trash? Ask around the office and see if other items have gone missing.
No one else was in the room except myself, two other attorneys (who share the office with me), and the cleaning lady. The other attorneys (both friends of mine) definitely did not take them. The headphones were not knocked into the trash, I checked thoroughly. The timespan between me leaving the cubicle with them there and me returning to find them gone was about 5 minutes; I never left the room, I just went over to another cubicle and was chatting with that attorney about movies. There's really only two explanations: she stole them or she misplaced them while cleaning. I scoured the place without finding them, which seems to remove the latter as an option. No other items went missing in the office; the other attorneys checked their spaces thoroughly after I started a major WTF rant. A mini-version of this thread conversation occurred in our room after this event, so they're well aware of it.
pevergreen
12-07-2010, 03:55
Next time, leave something else that a person may steal out in the open, if she takes it again, lodge formal complaint.
Your firm shouldn't have to deal with a cleaner that thinks its ok to steal stuff from their employees.
Megas Methuselah
12-07-2010, 07:05
In your position I probably wouldn't have reported her either, but I certianly wouldn't feel bad or guilty about it. I would also watch her like a hawk and nail her if this becomes a repeating pattern
And when you catch her, use that to take advantage of her. Must be a looker is she's worthy of a hawk-stare, eh?
Hosakawa Tito
12-07-2010, 11:44
No one else was in the room except myself, two other attorneys (who share the office with me), and the cleaning lady. The other attorneys (both friends of mine) definitely did not take them. The headphones were not knocked into the trash, I checked thoroughly. The timespan between me leaving the cubicle with them there and me returning to find them gone was about 5 minutes; I never left the room, I just went over to another cubicle and was chatting with that attorney about movies. There's really only two explanations: she stole them or she misplaced them while cleaning. I scoured the place without finding them, which seems to remove the latter as an option. No other items went missing in the office; the other attorneys checked their spaces thoroughly after I started a major WTF rant. A mini-version of this thread conversation occurred in our room after this event, so they're well aware of it.
I'd file a complaint then and ask for a different cleaning person.
HoreTore
12-07-2010, 11:52
I've been in a similar situation, though in my case it was a recently hired co-worker, and the person wasn't poor or a refugee or anything like that.
I decided to give the person a second chance, while at the same time, I let the person know that I knew. Basically I came to the conclusion that I just didn't care enough.
Furunculus
12-07-2010, 12:18
At the risk of getting another warning: you're an idiot.
If you report them missing they can look for them. It's not accusing anyone, but pointing out the temporal relationship when they disappeared.
But if you'd rather apologise for existing, then why not leave your watch / ipod / laptop around next time they're cleaning? You'd be breaking the cycle of crime and poverty by ensuring that crime pays... :wall:
~:smoking:
I didn't issue a warning as per TC's request. You could have skipped the shot though.
i'm with rory here.
stealing/damaging other peoples property is a rage-inducing act as far as i am concerned.
al Roumi
12-07-2010, 12:35
i'm with rory here.
stealing/damaging other peoples property is a rage-inducing act as far as i am concerned.
As one shopkeeper (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/n/napoleonbo166703.html) said to the other.
That said, being the victim of theft etc is aggravating, but you'd want to be doubly sure they were stolen by the individual in question, right?
Furunculus
12-07-2010, 12:38
sure, but report it, don't ignore it.
al Roumi
12-07-2010, 12:41
sure, but report it, don't ignore it.
Report the fact that they are missing, not that they have been stolen. There's a fine line between declaring theft and a spontaneous congregation of pitchfork enthusiasts.
Your colleagues are greedy lawyers; it has to be one of them. And he who did it, knows you were going to blame it on the cleaning lady, so there was no risk whatsoever to steal your headphones. Steal something back from their desks next week ~;p
Meh, if you're 100 % sure that the cleaning lady did it, but you would feel bad to report it, because of Christmas and you being a good person, then why don't do something completely unexpected: give her a Christmas present: an i-phone with headphones.
Before you all start thinking I'm a saint: I would first have thoroughly looked everywhere in the office, even at my colleagues' desks. If no headphone, I would have talked to the lady. I would have told her I would report it, to see if she would admit it and give back the headphones. And I would have actually reported it, even if she would have given the headphones back. Regardless of social background: you don't steal. It doesn't matter if the thief is a highly-paid lawyer or the cleaning lady. I have a pretty modest background myself. My grandfather was poor and my father grew up in poverty the first 10 years of his youth. They didn't steal. My grandfather worked hard, every day, and he himself (not his wife and children!) ate dry bread most of the time, so he could save money to buy a house. Even for the smallest lie, my grandfather would get upset and would punish me. He had a house, two pieces of land, a decent amount of savings and no debts whatsoever at his dead. Being poor doesn't mean you have to steal. As far as I'm concerned, the sole fact that a person is poor, doesn't gain my sympathy. The attitude of people who are proud and decent while being poor, that's something that makes me bow my head in deep respect. But that's just me.
But maybe giving her an i-phone for Christmas instead of reporting it will have better results to change her attitude in life. Personally, I believe in the harsh approach, not the soft one.
:2cents:
Louis VI the Fat
12-07-2010, 14:32
The proper legal course of action to take is straightforward.
For $8950 I'll advice you about it. Mind that's $8950 an hour. If you pay, you get your $30 headphones back. If you don't pay, we'll then you just got legally robbed of $30 and there's nothing you can do about it.
Furunculus
12-07-2010, 15:14
Report the fact that they are missing, not that they have been stolen. There's a fine line between declaring theft and a spontaneous congregation of pitchfork enthusiasts.
ah, i see, report it missing, explaining how there is no reason you can think of for it not to be exactly where you left it; on your desk.
Rhyfelwyr
12-07-2010, 15:49
I would just let it go. But if anything happens again just let her know that you know. If I was very well off I would feel very bad risking that person losing their job.
Yes theft is bad but **** happens and people need to get over it, how can you feel bad for long when you walk back into your luxury house. It's just not worth it.
rory_20_uk
12-07-2010, 16:00
I find that a better system would be to give part of my earnings for a safety net as opposed to having things taken which then might be resold. I think that is called... taxes and they take over 30% of my salary.
I'm sorry this is not somehow "proactive charity" where those who want to receive just help themselves.
~:smoking:
I would just let it go. But if anything happens again just let her know that you know. If I was very well off I would feel very bad risking that person losing their job.
Yes theft is bad but **** happens and people need to get over it, how can you feel bad for long when you walk back into your luxury house. It's just not worth it.
So, if TinCow would be a guy with a crappy job in a fastfood restaurant, it would be ok to report it and see the cleaning lady be fired before Christmas?
Everybody has the right to get fired if he's stealing on his workplace. Not reporting the cleaning lady is clearly a case of discrimination. Would you think twice if it was your co-worker - wellpaid lawyer who did it? It's also a case of condescendingly looking down on the lower classes. "Pfuh, it's just the lower than low cleaning lady. I'm not going to report such a person. That's far below my own status. It's only 30 $; she has to work half a day for that kind of money, me only 5 minutes."
All kidding aside, I'm more and more with rory on this one. I think this is a case of a completely misplaced feeling of guilt.
This should be a no-brainer: thief -> report.
How would you feel if the day before Christmas the cleaning lady would steal something else from one of your colleagues, let's say a watch they got from their fiancée for Valentine's day? Or their wedding wring they put off for a sec for whatever reason.
HoreTore
12-07-2010, 16:26
How would you feel if the day before Christmas the cleaning lady would steal something else from one of your colleagues, let's say a watch they got from their fiancée for Valentine's day? Or their wedding wring they put off for a sec for whatever reason.
What if it was a half-empty soda bottle?
What if it was a half-empty soda bottle?
:rolleyes:
HoreTore
12-07-2010, 16:31
:rolleyes:
No, it's a serious question... And a relevant one too, soda bottles and similar stuff have a tendency to "get lost" on quite a few workplaces....
But I take your rolling eyes to mean that you wouldn't report a stolen soda bottle? If so, you've drawn a line between what can be tolerated and what can't, and then it isn't that absurd to draw the line a few bucks up the line, is it?
The bottle is half full, not half empty, you negativist.
If a soda bottle would have disappeared, I wouldn't think it was stolen. Maybe somebody was thirsty. Then again, we have free drinks here at work, which probably explains why I don't see that as stealing :shrug:
al Roumi
12-07-2010, 16:38
ah, i see, report it missing, explaining how there is no reason you can think of for it not to be exactly where you left it; on your desk.
Yes. That way you have stated no-more than you actually know to be fact. The accusation of theft immediately implies wrong-doing which, unless you can prove, you have no right to go spreading.
I would say that a neutral message put around the office saying "have you seen a pair of white headphones, last seen [here] at [this] time, please return to me if you find them -thanks!", would be the way to go. That way if they were stolen, a) the culprit will know they are missed (and should feel a dollop of guilt); b) the cuplrit will be less confident of repeating the feat if they know missing items are reported so widely each time. And importantly, you won't have launched into a morale eroding clamp-down, only for the headphones to turn up.
HoreTore
12-07-2010, 16:39
The bottle is half full, not half empty, you negativist.
Hah, that actually made me laugh out loud :laugh2:
If a soda bottle would have disappeared, I wouldn't think it was stolen. Maybe somebody was thirsty. Then again, we have free drinks here at work, which probably explains why I don't see that as stealing :shrug:
Maybe somebody was thirsty? But isn't taking your soda because they're thirsty theft?
Is there a difference between taking another persons soda because you're thirsty any different to, say, stealing some cheap stuff to give to your kid for christmas because you can't afford a present?
Oh, and stop teasing the rest of us with your workers paradise full of free soft drinks!! The rest of us only get coffee, and you know it.
Maybe somebody was thirsty? But isn't taking your soda because they're thirsty theft?
Is there a difference between taking another persons soda because you're thirsty any different to, say, stealing some cheap stuff to give to your kid for christmas because you can't afford a present?
Yes, you have a point. But this is the BR, so I won't admit it.
Oh, and stop teasing the rest of us with your workers paradise full of free soft drinks!! The rest of us only get coffee, and you know it.
We can chose between regular coffee, cappucino and espresso.
/runs
rory_20_uk
12-07-2010, 16:59
We can chose between regular coffee, cappucino and espresso.
/runs
When I was an "intern" at AztraZeneca they had fnatastic instant machines that did tea (2 types), coffee (2 types), hot chocolate, mint tea... [sigh]. Now there's only tea, coffee and tapwater.
~:smoking:
Don Corleone
12-07-2010, 16:59
File a report and state the facts as you know them. Stating facts is a value neutral action that leads to more openness and usually has no negative consequences. Just ask our friend Julian Assange & his two lovely Swedish friends.
All kidding aside, as others have said, stealing is wrong at all levels. She didn't steal a crust of bread out of the trash because she's famished. She stole a personal item, presumably because she wanted it. You don't know that she stole it, so refrain from offering your judgement or opinions. Just relate the facts of the incident as you know them.
You cannot begin to know (and therefore be held responsible) for all the possibilities of the case. Yes, she might get fired right before Christmas. But if you don't report her, she might be emboldened and start stealing more valuable items like credit card receipts out of the trash or prescription meds out of somebody's drawer.
You're only responsible for what you know and what you do. Reporting the facts as you know them cannot possibly be a morally negative act.
HoreTore
12-07-2010, 17:05
Yes, you have a point. But this is the BR, so I won't admit it.
We can chose between regular coffee, cappucino and espresso.
/runs
GAH!!!!!
I only get drip coffee later in the day, in the morning it's just instant coffee.... There's tea too though, but that's for chicks so it doesn't count.
You're not hiring, are you?
GAH!!!!!
I only get drip coffee later in the day, in the morning it's just instant coffee.... There's tea too though, but that's for chicks so it doesn't count.
You're not hiring, are you?
We need a cleaning lady ~;p
So, I've decided not going to report her. However, and this is the point of my post, I feel angry at this situation. Somehow, it seems to me that this woman stole from me, and yet I've ended up feeling guilty about it. How did that happen? Why did it happen? Is this some kind of personal guilt-complex about our disparate socio/economic backgrounds? Am I wrong to feel this way, or is this natural? Am I helping society as a whole by not causing major problems for this woman, or am I hurting it by letting a thief go unpunished?
TinCow, this statement indicates you have a soul. I thought the Bar Association was supposed to remove that on admission. This may be a test by your employer. ~D
Reenk Roink
12-08-2010, 01:02
What headphones are you thinking of getting? I'd recommend Sennheiser HD555 myself. I got a pair last year and while I'm no audiophile, listening to just about anything is a completely different experience with a quality pair of headphones like these. :yes:
Rhyfelwyr
12-08-2010, 01:12
So, if TinCow would be a guy with a crappy job in a fastfood restaurant, it would be ok to report it and see the cleaning lady be fired before Christmas?
OMG personal attack!!! :stare: :clown:
Everybody has the right to get fired if he's stealing on his workplace.
Of course the woman has no right to complain if she gets fired, where did I say otherwise?
I said it would be a nice thing to do if TinCow didn't have her fired. The fact he isn't obliged to do it is what makes it a nice thing to do.
Louis VI the Fat
12-08-2010, 01:32
Theft, or even the suspicion of theft, for a cleaner in America in all likelyhood means the end of her job, of this job. On which her family might be dependent.
So I think you have to be pretty darned sure before you accuse her of stealing. 95% sure is not good enough. 99% isn't either.
Indeed, socio-economical disparities really do have everything to do with it, as do power structures. That would take me a lenghty essay to explain. So instead, as a tangentially related but useful comparison, compare the fear a man in some position of authority, however slight - police officer, teacher, priest - feels for the accusiation of sexual harrasment.
In a liberal environment, say a university, a man's career is pretty much over the minute a single female student accuses him of harassment. The suspicion will always remain, the social damage is done, the career is over.
One has to be sure about the allegation, one has got to be certain of the case before reporting harassment. 95%, or even 99%, is not good enough.
Seamus Fermanagh
12-08-2010, 12:59
Property is an extension of the person. To harm or take another's property is to harm them.
Rory's coming up aces on this one.
HoreTore
12-08-2010, 13:19
Property is an extension of the person. To harm or take another's property is to harm them.
Bah, nonsense.
Person > other persons > property
Seamus Fermanagh
12-08-2010, 13:50
Property is an extension of the person. To harm or take another's property is to harm them.
Rory's coming up aces on this one.
Bah, nonsense.
Person > other persons > property
And that, dear Horetore, pretty well sums up the bulk of our philosophical differences with one another. Tis, in it's own way, a "great divide."
Is there a difference between taking another persons soda because you're thirsty any different to, say, stealing some cheap stuff to give to your kid for christmas because you can't afford a present?
I think this is a significant point and worthy of some discussion, because I really do believe that the value of the item in question makes a difference. There is no doubt in my mind that I would have reported the theft if it had been the iphone itself ($200) that was taken. Somewhere between the phone and the headphones, there is an invisible line that is crossed on 'value.' This is certainly not an absolute value, it's just my own personal judgment on the situation, but it definitely exists. I would have reported the loss of the $200 phone, but I did not report the loss of the $30 headphones. Clearly that is a result of my own valuation of the true worth of the items, and my gut-instinct that $30 isn't worth the hassle makes me feel like perhaps I'm an elitist snob. However, that feeling in itself makes me a bit upset, as I don't think I should have to 'apologize' or otherwise feel bad about being better off than some other people.
On a side note, the 'thirst' comment about the theft of the soda actually raises an important legal issue, at least in the US. Larceny (theft) is actually NOT a crime in the US if it is theft of an item needed for survival. That term is pretty narrowly defined and generally limited to food, clothing, and shelter in a situation where not stealing those items would result in death or serious harm. In addition, after the survival situation has passed, the thief is still legally obligated to restore the property that was taken or otherwise compensate the person from whom it was stolen. Still, it is interesting that the law does allow for 'righteous' theft in certain circumstances.
Who are you to decide when theft needs to be reported or not?
Would you have reported it if you would have seen the cleaning lady stealing the 30 $ headphones of your colleague?
Is the fact that you yourself are the victim, relevant to decide whether to report or not?
Theft is a criminal offense, because it doesn't only affect the victim, but also society as a whole. It is punished by criminal law, because society, represented by its' legislative and executive bodies, has decided that it is unwanted behaviour.
Isn't it your duty to report it, regardless of the identity of the victim or the value of the stolen item? It's up to the judge to decide if she should get punished or not. If the cleaning lady deems it ridicilous to get fired for this, then she can go to court. The judge will decide if she's right or not. It's not your place to make those decisions.
Louis VI the Fat
12-08-2010, 15:36
The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread! - Anatole France.
HoreTore
12-08-2010, 16:07
And that, dear Horetore, pretty well sums up the bulk of our philosophical differences with one another. Tis, in it's own way, a "great divide."
I know, I just wanted to point that out for the 6547th time :beam:
Who are you to decide when theft needs to be reported or not?
Would you have reported it if you would have seen the cleaning lady stealing the 30 $ headphones of your colleague?
Yes, but the reason is that I would have seen it with my own eyes. If I had actually witnessed her stealing my headphones, I would definitely have reported it. The fact that I did not do so and am thus not 100% sure that she did steal them is a major factor.
Is the fact that you yourself are the victim, relevant to decide whether to report or not?
I think it is. In many cases victims choose not to press charges against the perpetrator, for many reasons. In some situations, it can be worse for the victim (financially, psychologically, etc.) to pursue a criminal charge than to just let the issue lie.
Theft is a criminal offense, because it doesn't only affect the victim, but also society as a whole. It is punished by criminal law, because society, represented by its' legislative and executive bodies, has decided that it is unwanted behaviour.
Isn't it your duty to report it, regardless of the identity of the victim or the value of the stolen item? It's up to the judge to decide if she should get punished or not. If the cleaning lady deems it ridicilous to get fired for this, then she can go to court. The judge will decide if she's right or not. It's not your place to make those decisions.
My duty? That's an interesting way of phrasing it, but I'm going to say that no, it is not my duty. As far as I am aware, there is no legal duty (in the US at least) to report a crime. Aiding and Abetting is a crime, but that's when actual assistance is provided to the crime in some manner. Simply failing to report that a crime has occurred, without otherwise helping the criminal or benefiting from the crime, is not crime. Perhaps there is a moral obligation, but an individual's obligations to society are defined by the laws of that society. Thus, if society has determined by its own laws that a person is not required to do something, how can there still be a duty to do that thing?
HoreTore
12-08-2010, 16:19
My duty? That's an interesting way of phrasing it, but I'm going to say that no, it is not my duty. As far as I am aware, there is no legal duty (in the US at least) to report a crime. Aiding and Abetting is a crime, but that's when actual assistance is provided to the crime in some manner. Simply failing to report that a crime has occurred, without otherwise helping the criminal or benefiting from the crime, is not crime. Perhaps there is a moral obligation, but an individual's obligations to society are defined by the laws of that society. Thus, if society has determined by its own laws that a person is not required to do something, how can there still be a duty to do that thing?
It's the duty of the government(through the police and legal system), but it is certainly not the responsibility of each citizen to uphold and/or enfore the laws of our states.
@ TC
I see nothing wrong with what you are thinking or feeling here.
There is certainly the possibility that the headphones were lost, mistakenly thrown out, or perhaps taken by someone else. You conclusion sounds fairly safe to me, though, but as you said it's not a definite or given. I also agree with Louis, if you are going to accuse, you need to be 100% sure, due to the potential ramifications and stigma. So, that leaves it with reporting the missing item, or not. I would suggest you go ahead and report them missing, and state only the facts in your report. The reasons are 1. based on what you stated, I think it's not an unreasonable assumption that the new cleaning lady stole them, 2. crime should not be rewarded, 3. repeat offenders are born from a lack of consequences, and 4. the best time to stop a behavior and get an individual help if needed is very, very early on.
Assuming theft is the cause, simply reporting this will most likely get back to her in some shape or form, in the forms of questioning or at least an advisory. Many times future acts can be stopped through realization of potential consequences or fear of repercussions.
Let's say theft wasn't the cause, maybe it was a pure accident and she threw them out, or maybe they fell in the trash can, who knows? Perhaps it was an "honest" mistake which she realized when you asked, and instead of fessing up decided to cover her tracks out of fear. Reporting the missing item will most likely result in some questions being asked, which in turn could make her realize the error of her actions and the need for honesty.
Worst case, maybe she didn't steal them, something else happened, but she's still outright fired as a result. Given today's employment situations I would think this would be very, very highly unlikely, but it's still possible. If that were to happen, then I don't think you should feel any guilt or responsibility. Reporting a missing item and stating only facts is the right thing to do IMO. If someone else responds in a completely unreasonable manner, you are not responsible for his or her behavior.
Andres and others are technically correct, it's wrong, it shouldn't happen, etc.
There is however a certain lack of the virtue of mercy in this technical view and since we are humans and not Judge Dredds, I think it should be considered.
That is not to say you should just let her get away with it. I think the middle ground ids to tell her about her suspicions (preferably without everyone else hearing it) and that, should other suspicions about her stealing arise, you are going to report it(not necessarily her, as we are talking about suspicions), that you have no interest in harming or blaming her, but won't tolerate theft either. If she attacks you in the sense of 'how dare you blame me', then that certainly won't speak for her of course, guess you will have to live with a denial either way.
Mercy is not the only reason this may be a better approach, you don't know her story, you don't know why she steals and while it is no excuse for her stealing, you might be the first guy in her life who doesn't smack her/give her up right away for doing something wrong, it may have an impact. If it doesn't and things keep disappearing "on her watch", then report everything you know.
I don't think everything has to be treated in the harshest and strictest way because not all people are the same, give her a chance and let her chose whether to take it or not, if she stole in the first place which isn't 100% proven.
You may also hint that you're not sure it hasn't been misplaced and that you're going to search for it again to prove her innocence, then see whether it actually turns up again. (Unlikely but possible I think)
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