View Full Version : This Week's 'Yet Another Islamic Terrorist Discovered' Thread
PanzerJaeger
12-09-2010, 04:41
Since the highly efficient 'Evil Islam' thread has been unceremoniously shut down, I thought that a narrower topic could be created that would still help to keep the Backroom tidy. Sadly, I fear there will be plenty of Islam-inspired terror and violence to come, so why not keep it all in one place?
This week's crazy muslim terrorist event (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/08/AR2010120807514.html) comes from Baltimore, where for the second time in America in less than a month a Muslim gentleman attempted to detonate an FBI-supplied bomb that he thought would kill scores of people.
A Baltimore construction worker was charged Wednesday with plotting to blow up a military recruiting station in Maryland after the FBI learned of his radical leanings on Facebook, joined his plot and supplied him with a fake car bomb that he tried to detonate, federal officials said.
Antonio Martinez, 21, a U.S. citizen who recently converted to Islam and changed his name to Muhammad Hussain, declared on his Facebook page that he hates "Any 1 who opposes Allah." Those kinds of postings, brought to the FBI's attention, sparked an intensive investigation involving an undercover agent, a secret informant and a chilling plot to kill military personnel in the United States because they were killing Muslims overseas, according to an FBI affidavit filed Wednesday.
Martinez was so intent on carrying out the attack on the Catonsville recruiting station that he approached at least three people to join in what he saw as his mission, court papers say. Another - whom Martinez knew as his "Afghani brother" - was actually an undercover FBI agent.
The arrest is the latest in a series of cases in which federal authorities have used undercover operatives to monitor extremists, secretly befriend those suspected of plotting terror attacks and, in some cases, even to provide the means to carry them out.
Last month, undercover agents in Oregon helped a man who set out to kill thousands at a Christmas tree lighting ceremony prepare a bomb (which was fake), then arrested him after he tried to detonate it in a crowded public square. In October, federal agents posing as Islamic radicals met with a Northern Virginia man later accused of plotting to bomb Washington area Metro stations.
Interesting take on justice...
"OK, we found a nutcase. Let's befriend him, boost his nuttiness, supply him with fake bombs, and then get him in the act."
One wonders, would he have tried to blow people up without FBI help?
Meh, it's Baltimore. Who doesn't want to blow it up? :coffeenews:
On a serious note, how far can the FBI go before it becomes entrapment?
Seamus Fermanagh
12-09-2010, 05:43
[QUOTE=PanzerJaeger;2053234680]Since the highly efficient 'Evil Islam' thread has been unceremoniously shut down.../QUOTE]
Not so! We've taken great pains to make each closing a special ceremony of its own. Banquo usually plays "Dirge for the Unmourned" on his ocarina whilst Arach and I take turns with a bean sidhe-like keening. At the conclusion of the piece we all march widdershins around a bust of Tosa and bow respectfully to one another. The thread is then formally closed.
Note: the above may be entirely fiction.
Crazed Rabbit
12-09-2010, 06:21
In California, the FBI continues to attempt to create terrorists (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/04/AR2010120403710.html?sid=ST2010120404317):
IRVINE, CALIF. - Before the sun rose, the informant donned a white Islamic robe. A tiny camera was sewn into a button, and a microphone was buried in a device attached to his keys.
"This is Farouk al-Aziz, code name Oracle," he said into the keys as he sat in his parked car in this quiet community south of Los Angeles. "It's November 13th, 4:30 a.m. And we're hot."
The undercover FBI informant - a convicted forger named Craig Monteilh - then drove off for 5 a.m. prayers at the Islamic Center of Irvine, where he says he spied on dozens of worshipers in a quest for potential terrorists.
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In the Irvine case, Monteilh's mission as an informant backfired. Muslims were so alarmed by his talk of violent jihad that they obtained a restraining order against him.
He had helped build a terrorism-related case against a mosque member, but that also collapsed. The Justice Department recently took the extraordinary step of dropping charges against the worshiper, who Monteilh had caught on tape agreeing to blow up buildings, law enforcement officials said. Prosecutors had portrayed the man as a dire threat.
Compounding the damage, Monteilh has gone public, revealing secret FBI methods and charging that his "handlers" trained him to entrap Muslims as he infiltrated their mosques, homes and businesses. He is now suing the FBI.
CR
One wonders, would he have tried to blow people up without FBI help?
Also wonder about that, sounds like a loony who isn't all that bright. I mean using facebook.
rory_20_uk
12-09-2010, 11:58
Does the FBI do the same thing with Christian extremists / militia nutters / white supremacy groups / tea party activists?
~:smoking:
Tellos Athenaios
12-09-2010, 12:04
Equality of opportunity?
HoreTore
12-09-2010, 13:30
Does the FBI do the same thing with Christian extremists / militia nutters / white supremacy groups / tea party activists?
There have certainly been lots of claims of that happening.
No idea how true they are though. But now, I don't see why they shouldn't be....
Sasaki Kojiro
12-09-2010, 17:15
Entrapment is a serious claim.
Over here, the police is not allowed to push people like this...
What does the US laws say?
In the Irvine case, Monteilh's mission as an informant backfired. Muslims were so alarmed by his talk of violent jihad that they obtained a restraining order against him.
This is interesting, don't you think, Panzer?
Strike For The South
12-09-2010, 18:57
This is interesting, don't you think, Panzer?
Clearly he wasn't doing it right
Yeah, he just wasn't able to locate the terrorist G-spot.
Strike For The South
12-09-2010, 19:48
Yeah, he just wasn't able to locate the terrorist G-spot.
Put them on a pillow so there hips are facing up, now using the nail of your thumb you
It's just not worth the warning points anymore
HoreTore
12-09-2010, 19:51
NAIL?!?!?
It's only supposed to bleed the first time, ya know....
Strike For The South
12-09-2010, 19:53
NAIL?!?!?
It's only supposed to bleed the first time, ya know....
wait.....blood=bad?
you know you when touch a womans breast and it feels like a bag of sand....thats awesome
I also wondered about the "nail" part..
Back to my previous question, how far can the police push people to do crime? Anyone know what the law say? I know this is very different from country to country.
PanzerJaeger
12-09-2010, 20:45
Don't get me wrong, I love a good dose of anti-big government paranoia just as much as the next guy. However, if all it takes is some guy to tell you that an explosive-laden truck is in position to get you to push the button, you might be a terrorist... or close enough that you probably should be removed from society.
This is interesting, don't you think, Panzer?
Not as interesting as this:
He had helped build a terrorism-related case against a mosque member, but that also collapsed. The Justice Department recently took the extraordinary step of dropping charges against the worshiper, who Monteilh had caught on tape agreeing to blow up buildings, law enforcement officials said.
So all it takes is hanging out in a Mosque for a few weeks talking :daisy: about America to get someone to agree to blow up buildings? Somehow I'm not impressed.
Although apparently, the general consensus of those mosque-goers is that people who want to blow stuff up are bad and should be reported to the FBI, which they promptly did.
HoreTore
12-09-2010, 21:49
So all it takes is hanging out in a Mosque for a few weeks talking :daisy: about America to get someone to agree to blow up buildings? Somehow I'm not impressed.
Hang around me for a few weeks and I'll agree to whack thousands.
Louis VI the Fat
12-12-2010, 03:07
I suppose the entrapping Swedish Intelligence Agency forgot to halt these Islamic terrorists before they bombed Christmas shoppers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlb95PpAuj8&feature=player_embedded#!
One person has been killed and at least one other hurt as two explosions rocked the centre of the Swedish capital, Stockholm, reports say.
A car blew up near the busy shopping street of Drottninggatan, and another explosion hit nearby shortly afterwards, AP quoted police as saying.
Hector Eguia filmed this video of the second explosion.
lol@Sweden indeed, the most islamphilic nation in the world rofl=you
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