Immigrant child molester caught with six boys aged 3 to 10

[HoreTore]

Since this hasn't made English news yet, all I have are Norwegian sources, but here (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=no&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vg.no%2Fnyheter%2Futenriks%2Fartikkel.php%3Fartid%3D10020711) is a google translate version.

In short, a Norwegian man was arrested in his home in Gambia, with 6 Gambian boys from 3 years old to 10 years old. In addition, the Gambian police found "indecent images" in his apartment(meaning photos depicting abuse towards minors). He's been convicted of abuse towards minors before in Norway, against his son and his sons friends.



But should this case mean that traveling to Gambia should be next to impossible, and should all people of European descent be treated as potential pedophiles? Should we other white Europeans apologize to the Gambian people for this?

[Fragony]

All men who 'want to work with childres' should be watched as the most sickening case I have ever heard of very recently showed beyond doubt. And it's only the beginning, childcare is just as bad as the catholic church. These people know only their own lust, they actually set up their own creche, can't be helped, must be put down

[Fisherking]

It sounds as though the Norwegian Government sent a message to Gambian Police about him.

Why should anyone else feel the need to apologize.

But if you have some sort of guilt about the issue then go a head and say you are sorry to Gambia. You might even want to fly there and do it in person.

[HoreTore]

So you would agree then, that crimes committed by immigrants in our own countries should not affect our immigration policy? And that there is no need for our immigrant groups to apologize when one immigrant commits a crime?

[Reenk Roink]

There was this Orgah who should up for one day called Manboobs who had his location set as Gambia. I'm a bit suspicious now... Although he was interested in talking to the ladies so...

[Fisherking]

So you would agree then, that crimes committed by immigrants in our own countries should not affect our immigration policy? And that there is no need for our immigrant groups to apologize when one immigrant commits a crime?

If you are a Norwegian immigrant to Gambia you have just cause to be very embarrassed. Very likely on more than one account.

I am a foreign national living in another country. What my fellow countrymen do also has an effect on how others view me.

I can’t help that. There are always people who see everyone from a country or ethnic group as being the same.

I will save my energies for other battles where there are better chances of winning or where I feel I have more at stake

[Fragony]

So you would agree then, that crimes committed by immigrants in our own countries should not affect our immigration policy? And that there is no need for our immigrant groups to apologize when one immigrant commits a crime?

All likewise of course, but is there anyone desperate to excuse his acts in Gambia? That would be a level playing-field ad topic et intention.

Kick him in his nuts until he coughs them up by the way

[JAG]

So you would agree then, that crimes committed by immigrants in our own countries should not affect our immigration policy? And that there is no need for our immigrant groups to apologize when one immigrant commits a crime?

Clearly. Unfortunately logic does not often work when dealing with immigration INTO Western nations by the varied little englanders / xenophobes of every country.

Thus it is a valid and sound arguement, which is conveniently and completely ignored.

This case does show the tragic and under policed 'Westerner-going-to-foreign-land-to-molest'.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Clearly. Unfortunately logic does not often work when dealing with immigration INTO Western nations by the varied little englanders / xenophobes of every country.

Thus it is a valid and sound arguement, which is conveniently and completely ignored.

This case does show the tragic and under policed 'Westerner-going-to-foreign-land-to-molest'.Wait...did you just decry that there is a lack of policy based on a structural problem with one specific group abroad, AND insist that there should be no policy based on structural problems with specific groups abroad?

[JAG]

Nah. :)

I decried the fact that to bring up the patently clear point that has been highlighted in this thread does nothing to forgo the anger and mist of the xenophobe.

While also saying that there needs to be some serious thinking of the way European citizens who are already on sexual registers (as in this case) are so clearly able to go abroad to continue their acts... It happens too much and there must be some form of action taken to counter act it. Now I am all for freedom of movement and it would not neccesarily involve people being stopped from travelling abroad nce they have served their time - but it seems to me that not enough is done. Better information to the new 'host' country perhaps? I do not know the answer.

However the points I made are significantly different. ;p

[PanzerJaeger]

So you would agree then, that crimes committed by immigrants in our own countries should not affect our immigration policy? And that there is no need for our immigrant groups to apologize when one immigrant commits a crime?

You should have waited a bit longer for a more obvious fish to bite before you jerked the hook.

[Husar]

Why did the norwegian police tell on him?

Don't the norwegian authorities have a duty to help their fellow nationals abroad? ~;)

[a completely inoffensive name]

What exactly is the point of the OP?

[Fragony]

What exactly is the point of the OP?

Emphasising that it really really reaaaaaaaaaaaally aren't just immigrants that commit crimes. We already knew that of course, but some will never accept that that is pretty obvious

[a completely inoffensive name]

I see. Well this was a completely ass backwards way to starting this discussion.

[HoreTore]

I see. Well this was a completely ass backwards way to starting this discussion.

Just wait till next time someone brownish commits a crime, and listen to the cries of "all immigration must be stopped" and "throw them all out!".

And Frags will be there of course, with eyes and ears covered, ready to claim that he didn't hear a thing....

[a completely inoffensive name]

Just wait till next time someone brownish commits a crime, and listen to the cries of "all immigration must be stopped" and "throw them all out!"

Then you kindly point out your article and give your counter. Don't devolve to their level, and put out an article and go "SO I GUESS WE ARE ALL PEDOPHILES HUH? DO WE WHITIES NEED TO APOLOGIZE? NO? THEN YOU ADMIT YOUR ARGUMENT IS STUPID!"

Better yet, lurk their comments, find out their personal info then do a search on an ancestry.com and shove their own family history in their face.

[HoreTore]

Then you kindly point out your article and give your counter. Don't devolve to their level, and put out an article and go "SO I GUESS WE ARE ALL PEDOPHILES HUH? DO WE WHITIES NEED TO APOLOGIZE? NO? THEN YOU ADMIT YOUR ARGUMENT IS STUPID!"

Better yet, lurk their comments, find out their personal info then do a search on an ancestry.com and shove their own family history in their face.

Bah, this way is much more fun.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Bah, this way is much more fun.

That is what the pundits at Fox News say, :shrug:

[Fragony]

Just wait till next time someone brownish commits a crime, and listen to the cries of "all immigration must be stopped" and "throw them all out!".

And Frags will be there of course, with eyes and ears covered, ready to claim that he didn't hear a thing....

All immigration should be stopped is what I say, so it's hard not to hear it. Kicking them out nah

[HoreTore]

All immigration should be stopped is what I say, so it's hard not to hear it. Kicking them out nah

....but but but but but!

You claim all the time that only a small portion of them are bad, why would you want thousands of perfectly good people kept out of your country?

[Fragony]

....but but but but but!

You claim all the time that only a small portion of them are bad, why would you want thousands of perfectly good people kept out of your country?

It isn't about that, we simply don't have the capacity, I am not ideologically opposed to freedom of settlement. A full stop of 4 years should suffice.

[Andres]

....but but but but but!

You claim all the time that only a small portion of them are bad, why would you want thousands of perfectly good people kept out of your country?

Because his country is full? Just like Belgium, the Netherlands have an insanely high population density. There's no more room. We're already crawling all over each other. There are too many people on so little space and that causes a whole variety of problems.

There also has been a complete lack of immigration policy worthy of the name "immigration policy" the last few decades. Opening the doors, giving people some pieces of paper and a minimum income and then let them find their own way without any help or guidance or obligations like finding a job or learning the local language, whatsoever was sheer stupidity under the guise of "tolerance" and "being open". During the high days of these decades of ongoing stupidity, the most idiotic (referred to by Fragony as "the lefties") even claimed that asking from an immigrant to look for a job or to learn the local languages was "racism" . Next to the overpopulation problem, we thus need to clean our self created mess of our non existant immigration policy first. Then, when the mess has been cleaned and things are better organised, let immigrants in. But be selective. We don't need more structurally unemployed people, but we can use plumbers and masons. Let people prove they can be a worthy addition to our economy before letting them in.

[Fragony]

Couldn't agree more, sometimes you have to hurt to heal, a temporally deadlock is needed to get things on track. Our borders should always be open for political refugees, exception to the rule, but the rule should be 'go somewhere else'.

[rory_20_uk]

Couldn't agree more, sometimes you have to hurt to heal, a temporally deadlock is needed to get things on track. Our borders should always be open for political refugees, exception to the rule, but the rule should be 'go somewhere else'.

Which means all any country has to do to get rid of their "undesirables" is to say they'll be in danger on return and you're stuck with them. Suddenly the exception is the rule, or rather the oft used loophole.

~:smoking:

[Fragony]

Which means all any country has to do to get rid of their "undesirables" is to say they'll be in danger on return and you're stuck with them. Suddenly the exception is the rule, or rather the oft used loophole.

~:smoking:

They are supposed to get back, that might look cruel but it isnt, they can stay as long as they are hunted down. but when that ends we should stop caring about their situation, it isn't our fault that perfection doesn't exist, it's a universal flaw of human nature, not my duty and certainly not my cause, have a nice death, but I will prevent it whenever I can. But there is no more room here, it isn't reasonable to ask it from us, I would if I could, but I can't even help people that I know finding a place to rent, there aren't any

Example of patronising, friend of mine lives at immigrant-centre, we have pony's chickens we pay for it, great fun for the kids and we tag them along when we can. There is this guy that always wears full suits, who is he

[Vuk]

So you would agree then, that crimes committed by immigrants in our own countries should not affect our immigration policy? And that there is no need for our immigrant groups to apologize when one immigrant commits a crime?

One crime? No. When an enormous amount of crimes are being committed by a certain immigrant group though, or if members of a certain immigrant group tend strongly toward crime, it is only logical that you should rethink your policy toward them, and perhaps start being more selective of who you let in. Who wants criminals? (other than you commies of course)

[HoreTore]

One crime? No. When an enormous amount of crimes are being committed by a certain immigrant group though, or if members of a certain immigrant group tend strongly toward crime, it is only logical that you should rethink your policy toward them, and perhaps start being more selective of who you let in. Who wants criminals? (other than you commies of course)

So when 100 Norwegians/Turks/whatever commits a crime, it's OK to punish the other innocent 100.000 Norwegians/Turks/whatever....?


It isn't about that, we simply don't have the capacity, I am not ideologically opposed to freedom of settlement. A full stop of 4 years should suffice.

The the points made in this thread does not apply to you.

[Fragony]

SThe points made in this thread does not apply to you.

You are wrong about that, assumption is a constant uphill battle. Having a fair discussion without these assumptions is borderline impossible, you have to weight down every word you say to make sure it isn't taken the wrong way

[Beskar]

In defense (or offense?) of Fragony, it does seem you took one of his bog standard "Muslim in x location molests children" and replaced it with "Norwegian in x location molests children", in an attempt to go "it is not just ze muslims!!!11".

[HoreTore]

In defense (or offense?) of Fragony, it does seem you took one of his bog standard "Muslim in x location molests children" and replaced it with "Norwegian in x location molests children", in an attempt to go "it is not just ze muslims!!!11".

As I just explained to frags, it's not about him.

[Fragony]

In defense (or offense?) of Fragony, it does seem you took one of his bog standard "Muslim in x location molests children" and replaced it with "Norwegian in x location molests children", in an attempt to go "it is not just ze muslims!!!11".

I did that? I really need a better defence, but thx for the effort, at least it's something

[HoreTore]

One crime was committed in Sweden.

My newspaper is now flooded by right-wingers wailing on them scawwy muslims. That's more annoying than Frags could ever dream of being... And yes, they are calling for an end to immigration and sending a bunch of people back.

Some gangs of thieves from Eastern Europe steals their way across the country.

The right-wingers wants to throw them out along with the tens of thousands of law-abiding eastern european migrant workers who have been building our infrastructure and homes the last ten years. Oh, and the taxes they paid? Screw their benefits, they're foreign, they don't deserve anything back for the taxes they paid!!11

EDIT: though I guess they want the hookers to stay........ :smash:

[Fragony]

That's apreciated, I am no enemy of the muslims, quite the contrary