View Full Version : [Army Composition] What might a Galatian warband look like?
QuintusSertorius
01-22-2011, 04:19
If my Palmyra game doesn't really go anywhere, I might try an alternative "extended migration" with the Casse in Galatia. I tried the Arverni as Galatia in a true migration once, didn't work too well. It's too poor on its own to allow you to do anything. With my Palmyra game, I've retained my starting province and taken one or two others, but don't assist the isolated kingdom militarily.
So the same here, I'd keep the British Isles, but focus all my attention on Galatia.
I want to use as many of the recruitable units as possible (Iaosatae, Sotaroas, Gaeroas, Botroas, Kluddolon, Keltohellenikoi, Leuce Epos) and minimise my use of mercenaries to pad things out. As usual no more than 14-15 units in a stack.
I'm figuring something like one each of Iaosatae and Sotaroas as my missile complement. A couple each of Gaeroas and Kluddolon. One or two Keltohellenikoi and Botroas. Two Leuce Epos and two mercenary horse (one less if I use a Hellenistic Mercenary General). Then two other merc units (no Tindanotae - too unbalancing).
How does that sound? How might I deploy them against phalanx-heavy Seleukids and mixed-unit Pontos (and in my game, Pergamon)? I'm conscious there's not a lot of armour there, how can I deal with better-equipped foes?
I think you'll have to keep your missile units at both wings, with the swift cavarly right behind them, while all of your infantry is in a single line...
Soon as the phalanxes approach hold the line, while your missiles deal the most damage possible to the cavalry...
In the mean time start some sort of encirclement with your cavalry, trying to cut the enemy general's head...
If you don't want to commit your infantry in a charge, you can "play" with the phalanx's slow speed, performing some sort of Thessalian Feint...
Can you use all the galatian units as the Casse?
QuintusSertorius
01-23-2011, 19:09
Can you use all the galatian units as the Casse?
Only the merc units, unfortunately. Need to be Pontos or AS (or Romans or Ptolemies) to get the others.
I'm currently playing the arverni as galatians... it's a lot of fun but I think soon I'll start to be outclassed by hellenic infantry and cavalry... anyone knows how can I implement the elite galatian units in arverni's roster? cause I gave it a try but EB AoR system its really difficult to modify to a noob of moding like me...
The Galatian heavy spearmen use the same model as the Solduros and Arverni Nobles. What means you won't be able to use them without disabling Solduros or with more modding you could change the Arverni Nobles into the Galatian heavys, who're actually have nearly the same stats.
So, what do you want to do?
Still don't know maybe just enable the arverni nobles in galatia and RP as if they were galatian nobles... with the cavalry I think it's the same problem as breheitm(?) use the same model as the galatian lavotuxri.
thanks for the information... I'll take a look again at those hidden resources...
Below you have all the regions and treir resources:
REGION CITY R1 R2 R3 R4 R5 R6 R*
Dahyu_Mazsakata Gava_Mazsakata EA A n1 n2 n4 y8 EAAn1n2n4y8
Dahyu_Yugra Gava_Yugra EA A n1 n2 y4 n8 EAAn1n2y4n8
Aghvan Kabalaka EA A n1 n2 y4 y8 EAAn1n2y4y8
Dahyu_Roxsalanna Gava_Roxsalanna EA A n1 y2 n4 n8 EAAn1y2n4n8
Dahyu_Daha Nisa EA A n1 y2 n4 y8 EAAn1y2n4y8
Dahyu_Siraca Uspe EA A n1 y2 y4 n8 EAAn1y2y4n8
Egrisi Kotais EA A n1 y2 y4 y8 EAAn1y2y4y8
Dahyu_Thissakata Gava_Thissakata EA A y1 n2 n4 n8 EAAy1n2n4n8
Khwarazm Khiva EA A y1 n2 n4 y8 EAAy1n2n4y8
Dahyu_Aursa Gava_Aursa EA A y1 n2 y4 n8 EAAy1n2y4n8
Kartli Mtskheta EA A y1 n2 y4 y8 EAAy1n2y4y8
Dahyu_Yazyga Gava_Yazyga EA A y1 y2 n4 n8 EAAy1y2n4n8
Astauene Asaak EA A y1 y2 n4 y8 EAAy1y2n4y8
Dahyu_Alanna Gava_Alanna EA A y1 y2 y4 n8 EAAy1y2y4n8
Maeotis Tanais EA A y1 y2 y4 y8 EAAy1y2y4y8
Margiana Antiocheia_Margiane EA B n1 n2 n4 y8 EABn1n2n4y8
Xiyu Sulek EA B n1 n2 y4 n8 EABn1n2y4n8
Kangha Chach EA B n1 y2 n4 n8 EABn1y2n4n8
Dayuan Alexandreia_Eschate EA B n1 y2 y4 n8 EABn1y2y4n8
Saka_Yabgu Gava_Saka EA B y1 n2 n4 n8 EABy1n2n4n8
Dahyu_Haomavarga Gava_Haomavarga EA B y1 n2 y4 n8 EABy1n2y4n8
Sai_Yavuga Chighu EA B y1 y2 n4 n8 EABy1y2n4n8
Sogdiane Marakanda EA B y1 y2 y4 n8 EABy1y2y4n8
Phoinike Sidon EA C n1 n2 n4 n8 EACn1n2n4n8
Assyrie Edessa EA C n1 n2 n4 y8 EACn1n2n4y8
Adiabene Arbela EA C n1 n2 y4 n8 EACn1n2y4n8
Tadmor Palmyra EA C n1 n2 y4 y8 EACn1n2y4y8
Adurbadegan Phraaspa EA C n1 y2 n4 n8 EACn1y2n4n8
Kypros Salamis EA C n1 y2 n4 y8 EACn1y2n4y8
Mesopotamia Seleukeia EA C n1 y2 y4 n8 EACn1y2y4n8
Sinai Petra EA C n1 y2 y4 y8 EACn1y2y4y8
Hayasdan Armavir EA C y1 n2 n4 n8 EACy1n2n4n8
Syria Antiocheia EA C y1 n2 n4 y8 EACy1n2n4y8
Media Ekbatana EA C y1 n2 y4 n8 EACy1n2y4n8
Nabataia Bostra EA C y1 n2 y4 y8 EACy1n2y4y8
Sophene Karkathiokerta EA C y1 y2 n4 n8 EACy1y2n4n8
Syria_Koile Damaskos EA C y1 y2 n4 y8 EACy1y2n4y8
Charax_Spasinou Charax EA C y1 y2 y4 n8 EACy1y2y4n8
Ioudaia Hierosolyma EA C y1 y2 y4 y8 EACy1y2y4y8
Sind Patala EA D n1 n2 n4 n8 EADn1n2n4n8
Baktria Baktra EA D n1 n2 n4 y8 EADn1n2n4y8
Persis Persepolis EA D n1 n2 y4 n8 EADn1n2y4n8
Gedrosia Pura EA D n1 n2 y4 y8 EADn1n2y4y8
Khoarene Apameia EA D n1 y2 n4 n8 EADn1y2n4n8
Drangiane Prophthasia EA D n1 y2 n4 y8 EADn1y2n4y8
Parthyaia Hekatompylos EA D n1 y2 y4 n8 EADn1y2y4n8
Gandhara Taksashila EA D n1 y2 y4 y8 EADn1y2y4y8
Hyrkania Zadrakata EA D y1 n2 n4 n8 EADy1n2n4n8
Paropamisadai Kophen EA D y1 n2 n4 y8 EADy1n2n4y8
Gabiene Gabai EA D y1 n2 y4 n8 EADy1n2y4n8
Arachosia Alexandropolis EA D y1 n2 y4 y8 EADy1n2y4y8
Elymais Susa EA D y1 y2 n4 n8 EADy1y2n4n8
Karmania Karmana EA D y1 y2 n4 y8 EADy1y2n4y8
Aria Alexandreia_Ariana EA D y1 y2 y4 n8 EADy1y2y4n8
Sattagydia Opiana EA D y1 y2 y4 y8 EADy1y2y4y8
Babylonia Babylon EA E n1 n2 n4 n8 EAEn1n2n4n8
Diamat Axum EA E n1 n2 n4 y8 EAEn1n2n4y8
Triakontaschoinos Pselkis EA E n1 n2 y4 n8 EAEn1n2y4n8
Hadramaut Sabata EA E n1 n2 y4 y8 EAEn1n2y4y8
Heptanomis Memphis EA E n1 y2 n4 n8 EAEn1y2n4n8
Saba Maryab EA E n1 y2 n4 y8 EAEn1y2n4y8
Erythraia Ptolemais_Theron EA E n1 y2 y4 n8 EAEn1y2y4n8
Maketa Homna EA E n1 y2 y4 y8 EAEn1y2y4y8
Delta_Neilou Alexandreia EA E y1 n2 n4 n8 EAEy1n2n4n8
Main Carna EA E y1 n2 n4 y8 EAEy1n2n4y8
Oasis_Megale Hibis EA E y1 n2 y4 n8 EAEy1n2y4n8
Zufar Ubar EA E y1 n2 y4 y8 EAEy1n2y4y8
Thebais Diospolis_Megale EA E y1 y2 n4 n8 EAEy1y2n4n8
Qataban Tamane EA E y1 y2 n4 y8 EAEy1y2n4y8
Kush Meroe EA E y1 y2 y4 n8 EAEy1y2y4n8
Gerrhaia_Arabia Gerrha EA E y1 y2 y4 y8 EAEy1y2y4y8
Baleares Bocchoris NW A n1 n2 n4 n8 NWAn1n2n4n8
Lusitania Oxtraca NW A n1 n2 n4 y8 NWAn1n2n4y8
Aquitae Burdigala NW A n1 n2 y4 n8 NWAn1n2y4n8
Lacetania Emporion NW A n1 n2 y4 y8 NWAn1n2y4y8
Greseoallra Massalia NW A n1 y2 n4 n8 NWAn1y2n4n8
Celtiberia Numantia NW A n1 y2 n4 y8 NWAn1y2n4y8
Asturia Pallantia NW A n1 y2 y4 n8 NWAn1y2y4n8
Bastetania Mastia NW A n1 y2 y4 y8 NWAn1y2y4y8
Arvernotorg Gergovia NW A y1 n2 n4 n8 NWAy1n2n4n8
Turdulia Sucum-Murgi NW A y1 n2 n4 y8 NWAy1n2n4y8
Cantabria Vellika NW A y1 n2 y4 n8 NWAy1n2y4n8
Edetania Arse NW A y1 n2 y4 y8 NWAy1n2y4y8
Volcallra Tolosa NW A y1 y2 n4 n8 NWAy1y2n4n8
Carpetania Baikor NW A y1 y2 n4 y8 NWAy1y2n4y8
Galaecia Tyde NW A y1 y2 y4 n8 NWAy1y2y4n8
Turdetania Gader NW A y1 y2 y4 y8 NWAy1y2y4y8
Lugonesis Viennos NW B n1 n2 n4 n8 NWBn1n2n4n8
Cassemorg Camulosadae NW B n1 n2 n4 y8 NWBn1n2n4y8
Brigantiae Caern_Brigantae NW B n1 n2 y4 n8 NWBn1n2y4n8
Lemorisae Lemonum NW B n1 n2 y4 y8 NWBn1n2y4y8
Erain Ivernis NW B n1 y2 n4 n8 NWBn1y2n4n8
Mrogaule Cenabum NW B n1 y2 n4 y8 NWBn1y2n4y8
Corieltauvae Ratae NW B n1 y2 y4 n8 NWBn1y2y4n8
Mrogaedu Bibracte NW B n1 y2 y4 y8 NWBn1y2y4y8
Cruddain Emain_Macha NW B y1 n2 n4 n8 NWBy1n2n4n8
Bellovacaea_Belgae Bratosporios NW B y1 n2 n4 y8 NWBy1n2n4y8
Cambriae Ynys_Mon NW B y1 n2 y4 n8 NWBy1n2y4n8
Batromorgan Avaricum NW B y1 n2 y4 y8 NWBy1n2y4y8
Caledryn Attuaca NW B y1 y2 n4 n8 NWBy1y2n4n8
Armoriae Darioritum NW B y1 y2 n4 y8 NWBy1y2n4y8
Cornovae Ictis NW B y1 y2 y4 n8 NWBy1y2y4n8
Sequallra Vesontio NW B y1 y2 y4 y8 NWBy1y2y4y8
Mrog_Arctagone Arctaunon NW C n1 n2 n4 n8 NWCn1n2n4n8
Lugouw Carrodunum NW C n1 n2 n4 y8 NWCn1n2n4y8
Rhaetia Veldideno NW C n1 n2 y4 n8 NWCn1n2y4n8
Swebolandam Swebotraustastamnoz NW C n1 n2 y4 y8 NWCn1n2y4y8
Vindelicos Vindelicoppidos NW C n1 y2 n4 n8 NWCn1y2n4n8
Silengolandam Gawjam_Silengoz NW C n1 y2 n4 y8 NWCn1y2n4y8
Pannonia Vindobona NW C n1 y2 y4 n8 NWCn1y2y4n8
Habukolandam Gawjam_Habukoz NW C n1 y2 y4 y8 NWCn1y2y4y8
Nervaea_Belgae Bagacos NW C y1 n2 n4 n8 NWCy1n2n4n8
Venedu_Tauta Ascaucalis NW C y1 n2 n4 y8 NWCy1n2n4y8
Noricae Iuvavoaeta NW C y1 n2 y4 n8 NWCy1n2y4n8
Kimbrolandam Gawjam_Kimbroz NW C y1 n2 y4 y8 NWCy1n2y4y8
Helvetis Aventicos NW C y1 y2 n4 n8 NWCy1y2n4n8
Rugolandam Gawjam_Rugoz NW C y1 y2 n4 y8 NWCy1y2n4y8
Mrogbonna Eburonum NW C y1 y2 y4 n8 NWCy1y2y4n8
Heruskolandam Gawjam_Heruskoz NW C y1 y2 y4 y8 NWCy1y2y4y8
Bosporion_Tyrranesis Pantikapaion NW D n1 n2 n4 n8 NWDn1n2n4n8
Bastarnolandam Gawjam_Bastarnoz NW D n1 n2 n4 y8 NWDn1n2n4y8
Seliun_Gentis Seliun_Pilis NW D n1 n2 y4 n8 NWDn1n2y4n8
Getia Buridava NW D n1 n2 y4 y8 NWDn1n2y4y8
Auviogotanoz Gawjam_Gotanoz NW D n1 y2 n4 n8 NWDn1y2n4n8
Eravacouw Ak_Ink NW D n1 y2 n4 y8 NWDn1y2n4y8
Neurije Gordu_Neuriji NW D n1 y2 y4 n8 NWDn1y2y4n8
Skythia Olbia NW D n1 y2 y4 y8 NWDn1y2y4y8
Skandza Gawjam_Skandzawarjoz NW D y1 n2 n4 n8 NWDy1n2n4n8
Coutinoe Lucarottea NW D y1 n2 n4 y8 NWDy1n2n4y8
Sembu_Gentys Gintaras_Ostan NW D y1 n2 y4 n8 NWDy1n2y4n8
Mikra_Skythia Kallatis NW D y1 n2 y4 y8 NWDy1n2y4y8
Sapmi Asodat NW D y1 y2 n4 n8 NWDy1y2n4n8
Getia_Koile Sarmiszegethusa NW D y1 y2 n4 y8 NWDy1y2n4y8
Budinije Gelonus NW D y1 y2 y4 n8 NWDy1y2y4n8
Taurike_Chersonesos Chersonesos NW D y1 y2 y4 y8 NWDy1y2y4y8
Marmarike Paraitonion SW A n1 n2 n4 n8 SWAn1n2n4n8
Syrthim Lepki SW A n1 n2 n4 y8 SWAn1n2n4y8
Mashiliem Ippone SW A n1 n2 y4 n8 SWAn1n2y4n8
Phasania Garama SW A n1 n2 y4 y8 SWAn1n2y4y8
Mauretania_Massaesili Siga SW A n1 y2 n4 n8 SWAn1y2n4n8
Gaetulia Tuat SW A n1 y2 n4 y8 SWAn1y2n4y8
Zeugitana Kart_Hadast SW A n1 y2 y4 n8 SWAn1y2y4n8
Libye Ammonion SW A n1 y2 y4 y8 SWAn1y2y4y8
Mauretania_Tingitana Lixus SW A y1 n2 n4 n8 SWAy1n2n4n8
Atiqa Atiqa SW A y1 n2 n4 y8 SWAy1n2n4y8
Numidia Kirtan SW A y1 n2 y4 n8 SWAy1n2y4n8
Augila Augila SW A y1 n2 y4 y8 SWAy1n2y4y8
Mauretania Sala SW A y1 y2 n4 n8 SWAy1y2n4n8
Eremos Terhazza SW A y1 y2 n4 y8 SWAy1y2n4y8
Byzacena Adrumeto SW A y1 y2 y4 n8 SWAy1y2y4n8
Kyrenaia Kyrene SW A y1 y2 y4 y8 SWAy1y2y4y8
Sardin Karali SW B n1 n2 n4 n8 SWBn1n2n4n8
Campania Capua SW B n1 n2 n4 y8 SWBn1n2n4y8
Aemilia Bononia SW B n1 n2 y4 n8 SWBn1n2y4n8
Sicilia Messana SW B n1 n2 y4 y8 SWBn1n2y4y8
Venetia Patavium SW B n1 y2 n4 n8 SWBn1y2n4n8
Brettia Rhegion SW B n1 y2 n4 y8 SWBn1y2n4y8
Umbria Ariminum SW B n1 y2 y4 n8 SWBn1y2y4n8
Elimya Lilibeo SW B n1 y2 y4 y8 SWBn1y2y4y8
Insubramrog Mediolanum SW B y1 n2 n4 n8 SWBy1n2n4n8
Apulia Arpi SW B y1 n2 n4 y8 SWBy1n2n4y8
Etruria Arretium SW B y1 n2 y4 n8 SWBy1n2y4n8
Trinakrie Syracuse SW B y1 n2 y4 y8 SWBy1n2y4y8
Liguria Segesta SW B y1 y2 n4 n8 SWBy1y2n4n8
Kalabria Taras SW B y1 y2 n4 y8 SWBy1y2n4y8
Latium Rome SW B y1 y2 y4 n8 SWBy1y2y4n8
Korsim Alalia SW B y1 y2 y4 y8 SWBy1y2y4y8
Illyria_Hellenike Epidamnos SW C n1 n2 n4 n8 SWCn1n2n4n8
Makedonia Pella SW C n1 n2 n4 y8 SWCn1n2n4y8
Dardanoia Serdike SW C n1 n2 y4 n8 SWCn1n2y4n8
Lakonike Sparte SW C n1 n2 y4 y8 SWCn1n2y4y8
Dalmatia Dalminion SW C n1 y2 n4 n8 SWCn1y2n4n8
Euboia Chalkis SW C n1 y2 n4 y8 SWCn1y2n4y8
Odrysai Tylis SW C n1 y2 y4 n8 SWCn1y2y4n8
Aitolia Thermon SW C n1 y2 y4 y8 SWCn1y2y4y8
Pannonia_Illyrica Segestica SW C y1 n2 n4 n8 SWCy1n2n4n8
Thessalia Demetrias SW C y1 n2 n4 y8 SWCy1n2n4y8
Thraikia_Hypertera Naissos SW C y1 n2 y4 n8 SWCy1n2y4n8
Peloponnesos Korinthos SW C y1 n2 y4 y8 SWCy1n2y4y8
Scorcouw Singidunum SW C y1 y2 n4 n8 SWCy1y2n4n8
Attike Athenai SW C y1 y2 n4 y8 SWCy1y2n4y8
Chersonesos_Thraikia Byzantion SW C y1 y2 y4 n8 SWCy1y2y4n8
Epeiros Apollonia SW C y1 y2 y4 y8 SWCy1y2y4y8
Galatia Ankyra SW D n1 n2 n4 n8 SWDn1n2n4n8
Phrygia Ipsos SW D n1 n2 n4 y8 SWDn1n2n4y8
Lydia Sardis SW D n1 n2 y4 n8 SWDn1n2y4n8
Pokr_Hayk Ani-Kamah SW D n1 n2 y4 y8 SWDn1n2y4y8
Rhodos Rhodos SW D n1 y2 n4 n8 SWDn1y2n4n8
Kilikia Tarsos SW D n1 y2 n4 y8 SWDn1y2n4y8
Mysia Pergamon SW D n1 y2 y4 n8 SWDn1y2y4n8
Paphlagonia Sinope SW D n1 y2 y4 y8 SWDn1y2y4y8
Krete Kydonia SW D y1 n2 n4 n8 SWDy1n2n4n8
Pamphylia Side SW D y1 n2 n4 y8 SWDy1n2n4y8
Lesbos Mytilene SW D y1 n2 y4 n8 SWDy1n2y4n8
Pontos_Paralios Trapezous SW D y1 n2 y4 y8 SWDy1n2y4y8
Karia Halikarnassos SW D y1 y2 n4 n8 SWDy1y2n4n8
Kappadokia Mazaka SW D y1 y2 n4 y8 SWDy1y2n4y8
Bithynia Nikaia SW D y1 y2 y4 n8 SWDy1y2y4n8
Kappadokia_Pontika Amaseia SW D y1 y2 y4 y8 SWDy1y2y4y8
THANKS! I'll give it a try later... so I'm supoussed to change the arjos needed resources to the ones in galatia? and what about the lavotuxri I already enabled them in the EDU for the arverni but still don't know how to activate their recruitment in the EDB... some help with that will be thanked...
Nerva
Search in the EDB for them, copy the lines and paste them into the recruitment lines of your factional MIC and change the "requires faction" from whatever it is (carthage or romans_julii or something) to scythia. I don't have EB on this computer so I can't tell you the exact name of the celtic factional MICs, just look for one that requires britons, gauls and scythia. If you don't have modded the EDB to be able to build the level 5 MIC (either enabled it directly of through enabling the gov type I) you should paste it into the level 4 MIC.
Without further modding your lavotuxri will look like the Arverni Brihentin and when used with regular Brihentin on your side in a battle the game will crash IIRC because of a model-conflict.
For the galatian heavys you need other changes or they will look like Solduros. Just overwrite the Arveni nobles stats with that of the galatians (except for the merc-attribute since that defines their skin) and then change the resources of the arverni nobles in the EDB from Arvernotorg to Galatia.
If you want the exact Galatian-skins you need to edit the export_model_battle. That would be easy but the Skins don't differ much aside from the face and shield (and arverni nobles look cooler anyway).
Oh and never forget to make backups.
moonburn
05-06-2011, 23:42
and after that change you need to restart your campaign also if you can figure it out put the top level of mines in ankyra from the start or it will be an unplayable campaign for you economically (or you´ll have to rush it wich means destroying the pontus and crippling the seulekids from the start)
QuintusSertorius
05-07-2011, 20:32
and after that change you need to restart your campaign also if you can figure it out put the top level of mines in ankyra from the start or it will be an unplayable campaign for you economically (or you´ll have to rush it wich means destroying the pontus and crippling the seulekids from the start)
Why rush to destroy Pontos and AS when there are a lot of rich, rebel-held territories to the west?
moonburn
05-08-2011, 04:35
the top mine in ankyra can´t even pay for the upkeep of a 1/4 decent stack so if anyone wants to play as galatians they have to figure it out some nice money exploits just to survive (another advice is start with a stone wall in ankyra the celtik blades are deadly on walls) historically the gallatians got it by extorting pergamon and ankyra and pontus but in terms of gameplay if you waste your armies on pergamon and nikaia (and remember atacking nikaia = instant war with the pontians) you won´t have enough to develop their mines and sustain your army when the arche seulekeia or the pontians come
and after that change you need to restart your campaign
No, you don't.
Enabling the bigger mines for the Arverni needs some more work IIRC. Changing the building_text-file so you have a description for the mines, change the EDB so you can build it (that's the easiest part) and maybe even adding the pictures to the barbarian culture folder so they don't look like the vanilla barracks.
But playing Galatians shouldn't be much harder then playing Pontos. I recommend some cheating in the beginning (since you need to move your armies and FMs there you will need to cheat anyway) if you want to roleplay. If not, the starting armies of the Arverni should really be enough to take some settlements.
QuintusSertorius
05-08-2011, 16:57
the top mine in ankyra can´t even pay for the upkeep of a 1/4 decent stack so if anyone wants to play as galatians they have to figure it out some nice money exploits just to survive (another advice is start with a stone wall in ankyra the celtik blades are deadly on walls) historically the gallatians got it by extorting pergamon and ankyra and pontus but in terms of gameplay if you waste your armies on pergamon and nikaia (and remember atacking nikaia = instant war with the pontians) you won´t have enough to develop their mines and sustain your army when the arche seulekeia or the pontians come
If you're using Force Diplomacy, one war isn't total, endless war until one side is dead. Once you've ridden out Pontos' attacks and destroyed their armies, they'll move on elsewhere. Pergamon and Nikaia are hugely wealthy, take those and you're sorted economically.
Skullheadhq
05-09-2011, 07:23
Typical fullstack Ptolemaioi Galatian army:
- 1x Vollorix (client ruler/allied general)
- 5x Galatikoi Kleruchoi
- 4x Galatikoi Kluddolon
- 4x Gaeroas
- 2x (Mistophoroi Thraikikoi) Peltastai
- 2x Leuce Epos / Curepos
- (if have extra money) 2x Galatikoi Lavotuxtri
QuintusSertorius
05-09-2011, 11:29
Typical fullstack Ptolemaioi Galatian army:
- 1x Vollorix (client ruler/allied general)
- 5x Galatikoi Kleruchoi
- 4x Galatikoi Kluddolon
- 4x Gaeroas
- 2x (Mistophoroi Thraikikoi) Peltastai
- 2x Leuce Epos / Curepos
- (if have extra money) 2x Galatikoi Lavotuxtri
That seems very infantry-heavy. No slingers/archers? No heavier cavalry aside from the optional Lavotuxtri?
Cute Wolf
05-09-2011, 12:00
That seems very infantry-heavy. No slingers/archers? No heavier cavalry aside from the optional Lavotuxtri?
maybe he meant this army is used for either siege or aggresive operations, which galatians excel in. changing 1 or 2 kluddolon with sphendenotai will be better for defensive field operations.
BTW, Ptolemaioi is allready have excellent cavalry and missile troops (Toxotai Kretikoi FTW), Galatians for them are to provide better heavy infantry
That seems very infantry-heavy. No slingers/archers? No heavier cavalry aside from the optional Lavotuxtri?
They're Celts and no Hellenes. Though it's no realistic Galatian army, especially not if it's a Ptolomaioi one (they would use more cavalry), I think it's just what he used.
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