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Sasaki Kojiro
01-27-2011, 08:07
http://www.imdb.com/features/oscars/2011/nominations

I find it COMPLETELY ABSURD that Tron: Legacy was not nominated for "Best Achievement in Visual Effects".

Seriously, what the ****

The effects in Iron Man and Inception were pretty good, and the previews for harry potter and alice looked ok, but none of them compared to Tron.

Might as well not even watch.

a completely inoffensive name
01-27-2011, 08:13
Oscars and Emmy's have not been picking the clear winners for over 30 years now. It's all politics and maintaining a high class setting. You can't give an award to a commoner movie. The Dark Knight was a major contender. I'm not going to say it should have won, but no nominations except for Heath Ledger is terrible.

Not surprisingly, less people probably care to watch the emmys and oscars more than ever.

Sasaki Kojiro
01-27-2011, 08:22
I'm fully in support of them nominating "best artsy movie" or "most heatwrenching depiction of poverty" etc for all the lame categories. It doesn't make sense to mix the two broad genre's into one picture. Or maybe it does and I just don't see it. But you can't mess with the visual effects nominations! God.

a completely inoffensive name
01-27-2011, 09:14
I'm fully in support of them nominating "best artsy movie" or "most heatwrenching depiction of poverty" etc for all the lame categories. It doesn't make sense to mix the two broad genre's into one picture. Or maybe it does and I just don't see it. But you can't mess with the visual effects nominations! God.

What is so special about the visual effects nominations?

Moros
01-27-2011, 23:47
What is so special about the visual effects nominations?

Because these days content is no longer needed. We need to see flashy things.

Sasaki Kojiro
01-27-2011, 23:51
What is so special about the visual effects nominations?

Visual effects are important to movies.


Because these days content is no longer needed. We need to see flashy things.

If you don't like art, just say so, no need for sarcasm :no:

Moros
01-28-2011, 00:19
Visual effects are important to movies.



If you don't like art, just say so, no need for sarcasm :no:

It's not sarcasm, I actually believe it to be largely true. Internet and sarcasm never really became best friends, now did they? And I'm not that negative about it. I can dig a fancy CGI flick with barely a story but a lot of action, or,... at times. Sometimes don't want complex plot or heavy story, sometimes I just want to be amazed or entertained for the heck of it. Though other times I do like a good story or indiemovie, sure.

But the thing is that lately people more often just want to see special things and easy entertainment. And indeed often people do negative about it. I don't regard it as superior nor inferior, it's just a different kind of flick. And making spectacular effects is a craft or better art on it's own. Of course some of the best movies combine both a good story and amazing CGI.

Louis VI the Fat
01-28-2011, 04:20
I happen to have seen Tron two days ago. My verdict was the same as for Avatar: I was blown away, awesome movie! :2thumbsup:

Yes. One should not judge these movies on their plot or character development no more than one should judge a Molière or Shakespeare play on their CGI.



As for the Oscars: they are not about artsy movies. They are about lame Hollywood not-at-all-edgy portrayals of the Holocaust or of a disabled person. :sleeping:

Hooahguy
01-28-2011, 04:38
Hey, say what you want, The Kings Speech is a film masterpiece. I hope it wins all the awards it was nominated for!

Louis VI the Fat
01-28-2011, 04:45
Hey, say what you want, The Kings Speech is a film masterpiece. I hope it wins all the awards it was nominated for!I haven't seen it. I hear it must be good.


The King's Speech will no doubt win big at the oscars, because it complies with the Louis Doctrine: a portrayal of a person with an as-of-yet-untouched-by-Hollywood disability always wins the Oscar. In this case, speech impediment. Put your money on it now.

Reverend Joe
01-28-2011, 07:16
Just in reply to the OP, the best doesn't always win, for more reason than one. Bram Stoker's Dracula, for example, is widely regarded in film circles as being an excellene example of post-production, because basically all of the sound was done in post, dialogue included. As far as I know, pretty much all, if not all entirely, of the dialogue was redone in post. Problem was, the soundwork was so good that nobody noticed what the engineers had done and it wasn't even nominated for its respective category.

Don't sweat it; nobody gives a damn about the Oscars as far as giving legitimacy to a movie, at least not anymore.

naut
01-30-2011, 05:28
Exit Through the Gift Shop for Documentary!!! Such an awesome movie.

Crazed Rabbit
01-30-2011, 05:44
I completely stopped caring when The Reader was nominated for best picture and The Dark Knight wasn't.

Louis is right. It's not about movie quality, but movie politics;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbhrz1-4hN4

CR

Beirut
01-30-2011, 22:40
Ever since Pink Floyd's The Wall lost out on a Grammy production award to a Christopher Cross Album, well, all award shows are just incestuous junk.