View Full Version : Small Mafia Game The Half Monty [Concluded]
Askthepizzaguy
02-01-2011, 18:25
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/simpsons_logo_on_yellow_jpg_jpgcopy.jpg
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/ralph_wiggum.gif
THE HALF MONTY
A small Simpsons-themed game of Mafia.
Rules are pretty standard, will post later.
Sign-ups: 17/17
Captain Blackadder
classical_hero
Csargo
Death is yonder
Diamondeye
God Emperor
Johnhughthom
Khazaar
Nightbringer
pevergreen
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
Slashandburn
TheFluffyOne
Yaropolk
Zack
johnhughthom
02-01-2011, 19:11
Oh yes.
Diamondeye
02-01-2011, 19:17
in.
slashandburn
02-01-2011, 20:10
In.
God Emperor
02-01-2011, 21:42
ME !
change the letters and they will make reasonable reply
IN
Yaropolk
02-01-2011, 22:51
I'm in
robbiecon
02-01-2011, 23:13
ATPG + The Simpsons = WIN
Askthepizzaguy
02-02-2011, 00:29
QUICK, SPEED MAFIA WITH THE 7 FIRST SIGN UPS.
Who is the mafia? Winner gets cheese.
God Emperor
02-02-2011, 00:31
It's Diamondeye !!!!!!!
Captain Blackadder
02-02-2011, 00:32
In and it's DiamondEye
God Emperor
02-02-2011, 00:33
When does the phase end ?
Askthepizzaguy
02-02-2011, 00:34
TOWN WINS
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/Flawless.jpg
FLAWLESS VICTOLY
Alive:
Johnhughthom
Romanic
Slashandburn
God Emperor
Yaropolk
Robbiecon
Dead:
Diamondeye- Fastest Dead Mafioso Evar
God Emperor
02-02-2011, 00:36
Good job guys ! thanks for game ATPG.. I loved the writeups
Diamondeye
02-02-2011, 00:37
So when do I send in ord-
Well, :daisy:
robbiecon
02-02-2011, 00:45
Haha, madness!
pevergreen
02-02-2011, 00:53
:bow:
Beefy187
02-02-2011, 07:05
I think its Yaropolk
Diamondeye
02-02-2011, 14:18
Haha, madness!
You have no idea...
Death is yonder
02-02-2011, 15:46
In please :bow:
classical_hero
02-02-2011, 16:55
A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.
Askthepizzaguy
02-02-2011, 19:51
Now you can have more fun while you wait for this game. Be a ninja. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132984-Real-Ultimate-Power-Ninjas-on-Speed-%28Mafia%29)
Nightbringer
02-02-2011, 23:01
okay, this one hasn't started yet. May I have INZ
oh NOES!
This one has already ended as well. The mafia died before I even managed to sign up... :cry:
thefluffyone93
02-02-2011, 23:05
Haha, madness!
Ha!
Madness?
http://images2.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/5544949/Its-business-As-usual.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=BusinessCat
In please.
Wait, I can't tell if this game is actually over or not....
Nightbringer
02-02-2011, 23:16
Ha!
Madness?
http://images2.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/5544949/Its-business-As-usual.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=BusinessCat
In please.
Wait, I can't tell if this game is actually over or not....
I think not
Askthepizzaguy
02-03-2011, 17:07
Just two more to go, I think.
Askthepizzaguy
02-05-2011, 08:26
Okay, good to have everyone here. If you'd like to reserve, please do so now.
I will draw up some role PMs and begin the game ASAP.
Askthepizzaguy
02-06-2011, 08:30
Thanks for your patience. I'm almost ready to start but they made me pull several closes in a row, one of which I wasn't even scheduled to do, and tomorrow I go in 5 hours earlier than usual and it's a half-day (double length) shift during the super bowl.
What that means is the machine needs to be switched off for 8 hours. Sorry. I know you like your pizzaguys inhumanly dedicated to this mafia stuff, but I'm back in mortal territory again.
Thanks for the heads up, but don´t worry about it. We all have to earn our bread first, and while we do appreciate your inhuman dedication to all things mafia, your new job is the priority!!!
Go ahead and take a day off after that, we´ll still be here ;-)
pevergreen
02-06-2011, 11:26
Thanks for the heads up, but don´t worry about it. We all have to earn our bread first, and while we do appreciate your inhuman dedication to all things mafia, your new job is the priority!!!
Go ahead and take a day off after that, we´ll still be here ;-)
+1.
Take your time, we can wait.
Diamondeye
02-06-2011, 12:25
thirded :bow:
God Emperor
02-07-2011, 01:10
pentagon !
slashandburn
02-07-2011, 03:27
Hexa-approved. and pre- Hepta, Octa, Nona, Deca, UnDeca, and DoDeca approved.
Askthepizzaguy
02-07-2011, 07:52
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/simpsons_logo_on_yellow_jpg_jpgcopy.jpg
THE HALF MONTY
Rules:
1. Day Phases will be 48 hours long, unless everyone has voted by the 24 hour mark.
2. Night Phases will be 24 hours long.
3. Tied votes result in No Lynch.
4. No Lynch is allowed as an option. Abstain is allowed as an option.
5. No out of thread communication unless specifically sanctioned by me, the game host. You break this rule, you are WOG'ed immediately.
6. You may post your role PM publicly. You may also copy/forge messages from the game host to you, unless specifically told not to do so by me, the game host.
7. No screenshots, no forwarding PMs, and obviously no chat logs or other out of thread communication posting, because it's illegal to do so in the first place.
Night Zero
Monty Burns: "Look at them all, Smithers.... Lollygaggers. Layabouts. Slugabeds! I shouldn't have to pay them to work at my plant. They should be paying me. I'm the one who has to suffer their incompetent boobery."
Waylon Smithers: "Yes sir."
Monty Burns: "Well, the radiation has probably made them all sterile anyway. Eventually, sweet death will embrace them all. Muah-hahahaha! But this all happens too slowly for my taste. Just watching them stand around, staring off into space, scratching themselves, drooling like lobotomy patients, on my precious dime.... it sickens me. I think it's time for a random firing."
Waylon Smithers: "I'll get the darts."
Monty Burns: "Smithers, put on the blindfold."
Waylon Smithers: "Uh...... I think you're supposed to wear it, sir."
Monty Burns: "No back talk, Waylon. Tie it good and tight, and spin around in the chair."
Waylon Smithers: "But sir, I have motion sick-"
Monty Burns: "Spin, Smithers! Spin faster! FASTER!!!"
Waylon Smithers: "Sir, I think I'm going to..... going to..... ulp...."
Monty Burns: "All right, now hold up the list of employees so I can throw the darts at it."
Waylon Smithers: "Wouldn't it be safer to hang it on the wall?"
Monty Burns: "Ooof... why do they make these..... plastic darts.... so heavy. All right, Smithers, I will now begin the random firing. And stand still, or you'll be fired as well."
Waylon Smithers: "For the love of god, please aim above my crotch...."
Monty Burns: "Heave.... ho!"
Waylon Smithers: "OH SWEET MERCIFUL HEAVEN, IT'S STUCK IN MY EYE!!!"
Monty Burns: "Oh quit complaining. You still have one good eye. And besides, the employee health insurance plan should cover it."
Waylon Smithers: "You discontinued the employee health insurance program last year, so you could buy that collection of gold-encrusted Fabergé eggs, which you then hurled at those Jehovah's Witnesses."
Monty Burns: "They were asking for it. Just like those hooligans that tried to sell me those cookies."
Waylon Smithers: "The girl scouts?"
Monty Burns: "Yes, those were the ones. I could tell they were after my money. Who knows what they would have done, if I hadn't released the dogs, and the bees, and the dogs with bees in their mouths and when they bark they shoot bees at you, and the robotic Richard Simmons."
Waylon Smithers: "Sir, my eye is bleeding rather profusely.... permission to call an ambulance?"
Monty Burns: "On company time, using a company telephone? You've got to be mad, Smithers. You know I'd never approve such a thing. Besides, your legs are just fine. You can walk."
Waylon Smithers: "Sir, the 9-1-1 emergency call is free...."
Monty Burns: "Meh. I'd still rather you not. I'm expecting a telemarketing call regarding cheaper international long distance service. In case I ever decide I want to call in that favor Fidel Castro owes me, I don't want to be overcharged. Those phone companies have sticky fingers."
Waylon Smithers: "I'm feeling light-headed.... I think I'm going to pass out....." *THUD*
Monty Burns: "Oh, don't be such a drama queen. Very well, it looks like I'm going to be driving myself home tonight, in the automatic vehicular mobile.
Later, inside Burns' luxury car
Monty Burns: "It's been a while since I've used one of these contraptions. Hmmm.... I'd better go over the checklist again, to refresh my memory. Let's see..... First, locate the pilot's torsal restraining belt, and insert into the latching copulatrium. Now, adjust the primary and secondary angular reflecting visual aids for enhanced seeability. Insert the ridged metal unlocking stick into the ignitrium, and execute a three-fifth clockwise turn."
*engine roars to life*
http://www.bloginsolite.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/burns-excellent.jpg
Monty Burns: "Excellent. Now, if I could just tell which of these foot levers is the velocitator and which is the deceleratrix...."
A cloaked figure walks up to Monty Burns, who is still trying to work his vehicle
Monty Burns: "Oh, it's you. I seem to be having trouble locating the automatic pilot. Could you put an end to my troubles?"
The cloaked figure points a gun at Burns.
Unknown: "I thought you'd never ask."
http://i0.peperonity.info/c/7E45D8/135950/ssc3/gallery/130-sym/10-texts/bang.gif_320_320_256_9223372036854775000_0_1_0.gif
Later, at Springfield Hospital
Doctor Julius Hibbert: "He's dead. He's been shot three times, strangled four times, and stabbed nine times in the back."
Waylon Smithers: "NOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Mister Burns.... I loved him so much. He was too young to die! Why couldn't it have been me??? WHY??? WHY????"
Monty Burns: "Because you were lying unconscious in a pool of your own laziness, you dunder-headed lackwit, leaving me to fend for myself. I'm going to have to punish you for this gross incompetence by giving you a five percent pay cut."
Waylon Smithers: "Mister Burns! You're alive!!!"
Doctor Julius Hibbert: "No, I'm afraid he's still deceased. In fact, he's been clinically dead for the past twenty-seven years."
Monty Burns: "I've retained most of my higher functions through a heady mix of organ transplants from Vietnamese orphans, injecting my body with every known kind of pharmaceutical, treating myself to regular brain massages, and keeping Dick Cheney's personal physician on speed dial. I actually have 3 of Cheney's artificial hearts beating in my chest, which I got at an extremely discounted rate due to the fact that all of them are defective, and lubricated with the blood of baby seals."
Waylon Smithers: "Sir, it's been an honor serving you. I hope that my years of dedicated service have allowed me to find myself in your will."
Monty Burns: "Of course not. I'm having all of my money incinerated and the ashes will be buried with me, safely encased inside several thousand of the unbroken gold-encrusted Fabergé eggs. And by the way, Smithers, you're fired!"
Waylon Smithers: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBsm2HiLubY)"
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/SIMP23.png
Askthepizzaguy- Charles Montgomery Burns
Chief Clancy Wiggum: "Well, it seems that we have a mystery on our hands. Who shot Mister Burns.... again?"
Comic Book Guy: "The culprit better not be the baby. They already did that on the show, and it was lame beyond all description. If it is, I officially designate this the worst.... mafia.... EVER!!!!"
Askthepizzaguy: "No, I am not doing that. The baby isn't even in this game."
Comic Book Guy: "Thank you for completely shattering the fourth wall and ruining my willing suspension of disbelief. I also appreciate the way you're writing my character, because I just love sounding like I'm dripping with sarcasm at all times. Really original take on it, too. Well done, 'Pizza guy'. Now watch as I applaud you very slowly with an expression of disdain on my face."
Monty Burns: "Fine, I'll do it in character; Find out who killed me, or I'll jack up your utility costs by five percent!"
Waylon Smithers: "Not to mention there's at least one murderer on the loose, who could kill again."
Comic Book Guy: "Worst expository dialogue.... ever!"
BEGIN DAY ONE.
Alive: 17/18
Captain Blackadder
classical_hero
Csargo
Death is yonder
Diamondeye
God Emperor
Johnhughthom
Khazaar
Nightbringer
pevergreen
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
Slashandburn
TheFluffyOne
Yaropolk
Zack
Dead: 1/18
Askthepizzaguy- Charles Montgomery Burns (Innocent)
Round ends at 0200 Wednesday February 9th, Eastern time USA, roughly 48 hours from the time of this post.
Nightbringer
02-07-2011, 08:26
We don't take kindly to fluffiness around here, so...
vote:TheFluffyOne
pevergreen
02-07-2011, 08:27
Vote: JHT
Yeah, I went there.
Nightbringer
02-07-2011, 08:35
Vote: JHT
Yeah, I went there.
Oh no he DI-nt
God Emperor
02-07-2011, 08:41
Fluffy monster scum !
Vote: Thefluffyone
Death is yonder
02-07-2011, 09:11
Whoa there neighbor, they're trying to take away all that's doddily good and fluffy-diddely in Springfield!
Vote: God Emperor
Captain Blackadder
02-07-2011, 12:43
As a member of the army who bravely fought for our country I find it offensive that you have voted for a vet.
Vote Robbiecon
Diamondeye
02-07-2011, 12:46
What definition of the word "innocent" applies to Montgomery Burns?!
Also, vote:Yaro
johnhughthom
02-07-2011, 12:54
What definition of the word "innocent" applies to Montgomery Burns?!
Innocent of being innocent?
Vote: Winsto... oh right.
Vote: Renata
I love Principal Skinner, are you Super Nintendo Chalmers?
As a member of the army who bravely fought for our country I find it offensive that you have voted for a vet.
Vote Robbiecon
Back in my day, there were acres and acres of vets around these parts.
In his heart Monty is just as innocent as Cartman, they really don´t know any better...
Vote: DE = Evil
robbiecon
02-07-2011, 16:33
Aruba, Jamaica, oo I wanna take ya,
to Bermuda, Bahama, come on pretty mama
Vote: Csargo, Montego, baby why don't we go
down to Kokomo,
get there fast
and then we'll take it slow
that's where we wanna go,
way down to Kokomo.
classical_hero
02-07-2011, 16:44
How on earth is Mr Burns innocent? Who on earth then are we looking for to be the mafia? vote:Diamondeye since he normally is mafia.
God Emperor
02-07-2011, 16:58
vote: Yaropolk
well well well.. ain't you scummy ! explain or face immediate lynch
thefluffyone93
02-07-2011, 17:33
We don't take kindly to fluffiness around here, so...
vote:TheFluffyOne
Hey now!
Thats discrimination!
Vote: Nightbringer
well well well.. ain't you scummy ! explain or face immediate lynch
Oops, sorry if I didn't give a good reason with my vote! I had a very good reason, and was about to write it, but the cat jumped on the keyboard.
What I meant to write was: "Yaro monster scum !". :laugh4:
autolycus
02-07-2011, 17:53
I'll reserve if you need it.
Yaropolk
02-07-2011, 18:55
Oops, sorry if I didn't give a good reason with my vote! I had a very good reason, and was about to write it, but the cat jumped on the keyboard.
What I meant to write was: "Yaro monster scum !". :laugh4:
Worst. Reason. Ever!
Vote: Romanic
Diamondeye
02-07-2011, 19:36
How on earth is Mr Burns innocent? Who on earth then are we looking for to be the mafia? vote:Diamondeye since he normally is mafia.
Ay carumba! That's a bad reason if I ever heard one. Just because I always get in trouble doesn't mean it's me.
slashandburn
02-07-2011, 20:16
Ay carumba! That's a bad reason if I ever heard one. Just because I always get in trouble doesn't mean it's me.
Or Does It? WIFOM ALERT!!!!!!!
Worst. Reason. Ever!
Vote: Romanic
Haha, I know! My last post was a wink at God Emperor for calling me scummy because I didn't give a reason to vote, while his reason was no better than "mine". "Yaro monster scum !" is an exact copy of what he used for fluffy ("Fluffy monster scum !").
My true reason for voting you was to create a 3 way tie on someone who hasn't voted yet, to gauge how you would react, and I have mixed feelings about your omgus vote.
slashandburn
02-07-2011, 21:42
Vote: Death is Yonder He appears to be the Good and Religious character whose name escapes me and would see shooting Burns as a Justified act(as would most of us).
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
02-07-2011, 21:43
Poop, I miss it :embarassed:.
Can I be a replacement player?
Tally
2 Diamondeye (Csargo, Khazaar)
2 TheFluffyOne (Nightbringer, God Emperor)
2 Yaropolk (Diamondeye, Romanic)
1 johnhughthom (pevergreen)
1 God Emperor (Death is yonder)
1 Capt Blackadder (Renata)
1 robbiecon (Capt Blackadder)
1 Renata (johnhughthom)
1 Csargo (robbiecon)
1 Nightbringer (Thefluffyone)
1 Romanic (Yaropolk)
1 Death is yonder (slashandburn)
--
2 not voting (classical_hero, Zack)
Haha, I know! My last post was a wink at God Emperor for calling me scummy because I didn't give a reason to vote, while his reason was no better than "mine". "Yaro monster scum !" is an exact copy of what he used for fluffy ("Fluffy monster scum !").
My true reason for voting you was to create a 3 way tie on someone who hasn't voted yet, to gauge how you would react, and I have mixed feelings about your omgus vote.
Back in my day we didn't have reason. We would draw straws to see who would be lynched. Whoever had the shortest straw we lynched them. Of course there were no general stores in our little town, so we had to walk fifteen miles to the next town over and get the straws there.
Yaropolk
02-07-2011, 23:09
Haha, I know! My last post was a wink at God Emperor for calling me scummy because I didn't give a reason to vote, while his reason was no better than "mine". "Yaro monster scum !" is an exact copy of what he used for fluffy ("Fluffy monster scum !").
My true reason for voting you was to create a 3 way tie on someone who hasn't voted yet, to gauge how you would react, and I have mixed feelings about your omgus vote.
Oh sure. Pick on the guy who reacted with an OMGUS vote. That's reeeealy original. What next Sherlock, compare balistics analysis to registered gun owners?
Askthepizzaguy
02-07-2011, 23:12
Back in my day we didn't have reason. We would draw straws to see who would be lynched. Whoever had the shortest straw we lynched them. Of course there were no general stores in our little town, so we had to walk fifteen miles to the next town over and get the straws there.
That's nothing, in MY day we didn't have "straws", we had just the one straw. And it was thirty miles away, up a sheer rock face with no hand holds, populated by flying timberwolves, and if you were the poor sucker who had to go get it, you automatically lost.
Innocent of being innocent?
Vote: Winsto... oh right.
Vote: Renata
I love Principal Skinner, are you Super Nintendo Chalmers?
Not voting Winston, eh? Who cares if he's not in the game?
Vote: JHT
Oh sure. Pick on the guy who reacted with an OMGUS vote. That's reeeealy original. What next Sherlock, compare balistics analysis to registered gun owners?
Sure, let's start with you: Do you own a gun? :laugh4:
johnhughthom
02-08-2011, 00:42
Not voting Winston, eh? Who cares if he's not in the game?
Vote: JHT
My nose gold tastes like green.
Yaropolk
02-08-2011, 00:51
Sure, let's start with you: Do you own a gun? :laugh4:
Yes, I own a replica Radioactive man limited edition handgun, autographed by Rainier Wolfcastle himself. It's still sealed in its original box and no you may not molest it with your greasy fingers!
johnhughthom
02-08-2011, 00:59
That's nothing, in MY day we didn't have "straws", we had just the one straw. And it was thirty miles away, up a sheer rock face with no hand holds, populated by flying timberwolves, and if you were the poor sucker who had to go get it, you automatically lost.
I can fit six straws in my ear.
Mommy, my ear is crying.
thefluffyone93
02-08-2011, 01:46
Yes, I own a replica Radioactive man limited edition handgun, autographed by Rainier Wolfcastle himself. It's still sealed in its original box and no you may not molest it with your greasy fingers!
Well snap, I don't think he was expecting an answer like this!
classical_hero
02-08-2011, 02:13
Tally
2 Diamondeye (Csargo, Khazaar)
2 TheFluffyOne (Nightbringer, God Emperor)
2 Yaropolk (Diamondeye, Romanic)
1 johnhughthom (pevergreen)
1 God Emperor (Death is yonder)
1 Capt Blackadder (Renata)
1 robbiecon (Capt Blackadder)
1 Renata (johnhughthom)
1 Csargo (robbiecon)
1 Nightbringer (Thefluffyone)
1 Romanic (Yaropolk)
1 Death is yonder (slashandburn)
--
2 not voting (classical_hero, Zack)
I have most definitely voted and it was for Diamondeye.
I have most definitely voted and it was for Diamondeye.
You're right, sorry, I missed post #55, votes are harder to see when they're in the middle of a line.
Tally
3 Diamondeye (Csargo, Khazaar, classical_hero)
2 TheFluffyOne (Nightbringer, God Emperor)
2 Yaropolk (Diamondeye, Romanic)
2 johnhughthom (pevergreen, Zack)
1 God Emperor (Death is yonder)
1 Capt Blackadder (Renata)
1 robbiecon (Capt Blackadder)
1 Renata (johnhughthom)
1 Csargo (robbiecon)
1 Nightbringer (Thefluffyone)
1 Romanic (Yaropolk)
1 Death is yonder (slashandburn)
--
0 not voting (!!!)
Askthepizzaguy
02-08-2011, 08:54
1. Day Phases will be 48 hours long, unless everyone has voted by the 24 hour mark.
It has indeed been 24 hours and it seems everyone has voted. Re-checking tally.
Edit: Tally is correct.
Diamondeye
02-08-2011, 12:19
I will not say "I told you so".
I will not say "I told you so".
I will not say "I told you so".
I will not say "I told you so".
I will not say "I told you so".
I will not say "I told yo-
Death is yonder
02-08-2011, 13:08
Vote: Death is Yonder He appears to be the Good and Religious character whose name escapes me and would see shooting Burns as a Justified act(as would most of us).
What fidedidily nonsense are you talking about? 'Ol Flanders would never harm even a fly, because its bad of course. Shooting Mr Burns would be
MURDER
And everyone knows that I'm not a murderer :angel:
Captain Blackadder
02-08-2011, 13:43
Well as I always say there's no justice like angry-mob justice.
Askthepizzaguy
02-08-2011, 16:07
uH...... yeah.
So guess what, I literally passed out and fell asleep, literally halfway through the writeup. At my computer, with the computer on.
Sorry folks. Long day yesterday.... 6th closing shift in a row, and then I just found out I have 5 more, no day off in between.
Let me FINISH this writeup and get the game moving again. Man....
Death is yonder
02-08-2011, 16:17
We are the people receiving the products of your creativity and effort for free, and you are understandably very busy.
Nothing to be sorry about, just have a good rest first instead of doing this when you should be recharging your batteries, that you fell asleep while doing it is an indication of sheer exhaustion.
Take your time :bow:
Askthepizzaguy
02-08-2011, 16:38
Day One
Springfield City Hall
Waylon Smithers: "You all know why we are here. A terrible, terrible tragedy has occurred. Our beloved Monty Burns has been murdered in cold blood by some..... horrible person. And that person still lurks among us. It has been almost a day, and the police still haven't found the one responsible. It's time to take matters into our own hands!"
Police Chief Wiggum: "Phew, that's a relief! And not a moment too soon, I was really getting stumped. Now I have plenty of time to enjoy my pie."
Mayor Quimby: "I er ah think that we should do whatever it is a slim majority of you people want to have happen. I am taking bold, decisive leadership, and allowing the ballot to resolve this situation. Remember my fearlessness in November when you vote Quimby."
Sideshow Mel: "I wholeheartedly agree; a truly egalitarian society should have no qualms about tending to the needs of the reasonable majority. I for one think that we should behave like revolutionaries under the French monarchy, and perform impromptu executions of our perceived enemies in full view of the public! Then, and only then, will the brutish scofflaws among us experience an appropriate amount of fear!"
Moe the bartender: "Yeah, uh... whatever the guy with the bone through his hair said. I am down for all of that."
Ned Flanders: "Well hidely ho, neighboreenos. I can see we're in quite a pickle, what with an actual murderer running around loose, but in times like these, why not turn to the Bible? The Good book is where we should all get our guidance. I suggest we bury whoever is responsible for this up to their head, and hurl heavy stones at them until they expire!"
Homer Simpson: "BORING! Let me tell you what you should do. First, get fifty cases of beer, then tie the suspect to the railroad tracks and douse them in syrup, and then release a million fire ants to come and feed off of the poor sucker's head, so the last thing the guy experiences is ants crawling over every inch of his face, just before the train comes. Then, give me the beer."
Bart Simpson: "Muhuhuhahahaha..... finally, some poor sap's going to get what they deserve!"
(Professor Frink wakes up from a sudden, seven-hour nap, and finds that everyone is still talking. It must have been one heck of an interesting conversation!)
Professor Frink: "According to my uh, calculations, entered into my murderer finder tracker voter tabulatron, it seems that the guilty party is the errr uhmmm young man right here."
Bart Simpson: "What? No way, man. I didn't do it, nobody saw me do it, I know my rights, you can't prove anything!"
Homer Simpson: "The boy. The boy. Must.... kill.... boy."
Bart Simpson: "What? Since when have you cared whether Mr. Burns lives or dies?"
Homer Simpson: "Not.... about.... Burns. No TV and no beer.... make Homer go crazy."
Bart Simpson: "Oh that. I'm sorry I threw your last beer can at that hornet's nest, but it's not my fault! I wanted to make them angry! Come on man, give me another chance!"
Marge Simpson: "I hate to say it kiddo, but this is a long time coming. We've been very lenient on you but your pranks have gone too far this time."
Bart Simpson: "Lisa, lovely Lisa, come on, help a brother out. Doesn't the law say that this kind of vigilante justice is illegal?"
Lisa Simpson: "Actually, Bart, according to article 7, section 4 of the Springfield constitution, vigilante justice IS legal in Springfield. There's nothing I can do."
Bart Simpson: "Skinner, I know we've had our differences, but I also know you love children, and you have a motorcycle. Get me out of here, and I'll never play a prank on you again! I'll return your collection of trophies that other schools won that you bought off of eBay!"
Seymour Skinner: "No can do, Bart. You've gotten detention, suspension, and expulsion before. There's only one thing left to do.... execution. I think I'll begin, as you've so often suggested, by eating your shorts...."
Bart Simpson: "Ralph, sweet, precious Ralph, what about you? I realize you probably have no idea what's going on, or who I am, or.... who you are.... but I'm desperate!"
Ralph Wiggum: "My cat's breath smells like cat food!"
Bart Simpson: "Fine, if that's how it's going to be.... but you'll have to catch me first! I'm outta here!"
Hans Moleman: "Stop him... He's getting away...."
Groundskeeper Willie: "Ach! He might be a fast one, but he's no match for a greased Scotsman!"
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Willie.png
Bart Simpson: "AAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!"
Groundskeeper Willie: "Come here, wee one! Willie's not gonna hurt ya! He's just gonna KILL YA!!!"
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/SIMP06.png
Diamondeye- Bart Simpson
Bart Simpson was innocent!
Alive: 16/18
Captain Blackadder
classical_hero
Csargo
Death is yonder
God Emperor
Johnhughthom
Khazaar
Nightbringer
pevergreen
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
Slashandburn
TheFluffyOne
Yaropolk
Zack
Dead: 2/18
Askthepizzaguy- Charles Montgomery Burns (Innocent)
Diamondeye- Bart Simpson (Innocent)
Begin Night One. Send me your orders, please.... hopefully if I get them all on time we can make up for my incompetent boobery.
thefluffyone93
02-08-2011, 18:43
You can never outrun an angry Scotsman.
Cue "The More You Know" jingle.
Askthepizzaguy
02-08-2011, 18:45
<object style="height: 390px; width: 640px"><param name="movie" value="https://www.youtube.com/v/v3rhQc666Sg?version=3"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"><embed src="https://www.youtube.com/v/v3rhQc666Sg?version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"></object>
thefluffyone93
02-08-2011, 18:47
Brilliant!
Great writeup pizza; I didn't think Bart could be so eloquent.
Askthepizzaguy
02-08-2011, 18:52
Brilliant!
Great writeup pizza; I didn't think Bart could be so eloquent.
Don't have a cow, man.
thefluffyone93
02-08-2011, 19:24
I like eating steak, thank you very much.
SO I THINK I WILL HAVE A COW.
Yaropolk
02-08-2011, 21:16
In this context, have a cow = give birth to a cow.
thefluffyone93
02-09-2011, 01:00
I STILL WANT MY STEAK.
If I give you one, will you kill me tonight? I'm sick. :(
Nightbringer
02-09-2011, 01:58
If I give you one, will you kill me tonight? I'm sick. :(
Same here. (the sick part, not the killing me or handing out steak part!)
and I had never really thought about what "have a cow" was supposed to mean until now.
God Emperor
02-09-2011, 02:23
I STILL WANT MY STEAK.
no your clearly shouldn't give birth to bovine
I can't imagine why NOTW doesn't allow night talking. :shame:
I like eating steak, thank you very much.
SO I THINK I WILL HAVE A COW.
In this context, have a cow = give birth to a cow.
I STILL WANT MY STEAK.
If I give you one, will you kill me tonight? I'm sick. :(
Same here. (the sick part, not the killing me or handing out steak part!)
and I had never really thought about what "have a cow" was supposed to mean until now.
no your clearly shouldn't give birth to bovine
I can't imagine why NOTW doesn't allow night talking. :shame:
:furious3:
No talk at night it a mistake, it doesn't promote talking about the lynch results. Once the night is over, people are not reacting to the lynch anymore, they are talking about the nightkills (or about dropped items, in NOTW). We've seen interesting discussions at nights in most games, this here isn't a good example, and we've just started.
:furious3:
No talk at night it a mistake, it doesn't promote talking about the lynch results. Once the night is over, people are not reacting to the lynch anymore, they are talking about the nightkills (or about dropped items, in NOTW). We've seen interesting discussions at nights in most games, this here isn't a good example, and we've just started.
I'm not advocating disallowing night talk, I'm just observing that all of the night talk so far has been spam.
I can't imagine why NOTW doesn't allow night talking. :shame:
In my day we didn't have night. It was day 24/7 and we were :daisy: happy about it too. Didn't complain all the time like you kids today!
classical_hero
02-09-2011, 03:39
All this talk about cows is BS.
thefluffyone93
02-09-2011, 04:06
All this talk about cows is BS.
Hmmmm.....I
THINK I see what you did there...
Edit: And its only the first night!
What else are we supposed to talk about?
Askthepizzaguy
02-09-2011, 07:35
What else are we supposed to talk about?
YOUR IMPENDING DOOOOOOOOOOOM!!! MWAHAAHAHHAHAHHAHHHAHAHHAHHAH
Oh. Sorry. Just getting ready to post the results of the night phase. :wink:
Askthepizzaguy
02-09-2011, 08:01
Night One
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/2374102819_19ca64df0b.jpg
742 Evergreen Terrace.
Marge Simpson lay in her bed, restless. She was preoccupied by the recent murder of Mister Burns, and the death of Bart Simpson. She had a lot to think about.
That's why, when she heard the sound of someone coming up the stairs, she was ready. She reached under the bed for a weapon, anything that might fend off an attacker. She felt a soda can, a half-empty bag of chips, several dinner plates, and a cast iron frying pan, with pancakes still in it.
"Sweet, predictable Homer...." muttered Marge, both disgusted by the moldy food, but grateful for the weapon.
The shadowy figure entered the bedroom, as Marge lay in bed, pretending to sleep. The figure moved closer, and closer, and closer....
"Sweet dreams...." whispered the assailant, lifting a revolver.
Reacting quickly, Marge swung the iron pan, knocking the weapon out of the hand of the attacker, and lunged forward, smashing the attacker over the head with the heavy metal object. The attacker grunted painfully, stumbled backwards, and fell down the stairs head first.
"AND GOOD NIGHT!" shouted Marge Simpson, as the attacker hurried out the door, humiliated.
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/SIMP15.png
Marge Simpson
Survived!
Alive: 16/18
Captain Blackadder
classical_hero
Csargo
Death is yonder
God Emperor
Johnhughthom
Khazaar
Nightbringer
pevergreen
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
Slashandburn
TheFluffyOne
Yaropolk
Zack
Dead: 2/18
Askthepizzaguy- Charles Montgomery Burns (Innocent)
Diamondeye- Bart Simpson (Innocent)
Begin Day Two. Round ends in 48 hours unless I have everyone voting in 24 hours.
johnhughthom
02-09-2011, 12:14
Daddy that pie is finished, eating the metal makes your teeth hurty.
A scary man talked to me last night, he had a hamster on his face and his shirt was the colour of nose gold. He told me a story about a man who raises people from their bed, he sounds like a bad man. I like my bed, it's a toilet I don't have to flush.
Vote: Renata I choo-choo-choose you.
Diamondeye
02-09-2011, 13:12
I can't imagine why NOTW doesn't allow night talking. :shame:
Then WHO WAS PHONE?
Daddy that pie is finished, eating the metal makes your teeth hurty.
A scary man talked to me last night, he had a hamster on his face and his shirt was the colour of nose gold. He told me a story about a man who raises people from their bed, he sounds like a bad man. I like my bed, it's a toilet I don't have to flush.
Vote: Renata I choo-choo-choose you.
This game is worth it just for your posts :laugh4:
johnhughthom
02-09-2011, 13:19
This game is worth it just for your posts :laugh4:
Pokes Diamondeye.
Daddy, why is my play date sleeping in a box?
Vote: fluffyone was the most egregious spammer last night.
thefluffyone93
02-09-2011, 17:48
Vote: fluffyone was the most egregious spammer last night.
Me, a spammer?
Oh, never in a million, billion years......
Amiright?
johnhughthom
02-09-2011, 18:04
Mr Smithers, Daddy said you're a Homer-sexual. Are you Bart's mommy?
thefluffyone93
02-09-2011, 18:13
Mr Smithers, Daddy said you're a Homer-sexual. Are you Bart's mommy?
Wow....totally see what you did there.
Uh.....NO.
Biologically impossible.
Not that I would want to anyways!
johnhughthom
02-09-2011, 18:22
Do you have a girlfriend Mr Smithers? I have a girlfriend, her name is Lisa Simpson and I'm going to be her wife.
thefluffyone93
02-09-2011, 18:38
Uh-huh.......
Something tells me Lisa doesn't know
about that wife part yet.
Or the girlfriend part as well.....
God Emperor
02-09-2011, 19:39
let's try with a second vote on you
Vote: Zack
Also, vote: Zack
let's try with a second vote on you
Vote: Zack
Let's try giving reasons for our votes.
thefluffyone93
02-09-2011, 19:49
Oh right, we're
supposed to be voting.
Vote: Zack for not noticing the "Internet Troll Extraordinaire" title I gave myself.
THAT'LL TEACH YOU! RAWR.
Vote: fluffyone was the most egregious spammer last night.
Silly Day Two vote based on something trivial.
Me, a spammer?
Oh, never in a million, billion years......
Amiright?
Immediate squirmy reaction.
Oh right, we're
supposed to be voting.
Vote: Zack for not noticing the "Internet Troll Extraordinaire" title I gave myself.
THAT'LL TEACH YOU! RAWR.
Trying to fit in and play it cool; finds an excuse to OMGUS.
My vote stays.
Eh? What's going on here?
Renata voted Zack without giving a reason.
Zack voted Fluffy for being a spammer (superficial reason).
God Emperor voted Zack for strategic reasons (or it seems).
Fluffy omgused on Zack.
@Renata:
I'll echo Zack, why are you voting for him?
Also, please try to assure me that "Marge is my hero" is not another casual comment like "Miko's been a bad girl". I'm afraid that I'll be hard to convince, but you can try.
@Zack
How is it that you are requesting others to give a reason for their vote, while yours is fluff at best?
thefluffyone93
02-09-2011, 20:19
@Zack
How is it that you are requesting others to give a reason for their vote, while yours is fluff at best?
UNINTENTIONAL "I SEE WHAT YOU DID THAR!"
I bet it´s the vile scotsman, Vote: Slashandburn sounds scottish, doesn´t it?
Eh? What's going on here?
Renata voted Zack without giving a reason.
Zack voted Fluffy for being a spammer (superficial reason).
God Emperor voted Zack for strategic reasons (or it seems).
Fluffy omgused on Zack.
@Renata:
I'll echo Zack, why are you voting for him?
Because he was the last voter of the day yesterday, and sometimes scum hold their votes a long time so they can see what way the wind's blowing. On reading day one I could see nothing truly worth voting for -- classical hero putting the third and lynching vote on Diamondeye looked somewhat promising until he was emphatic on making sure you didn't forget it -- so I went for the meta in lieu of throwing darts a second time.
Also, please try to assure me that "Marge is my hero" is not another casual comment like "Miko's been a bad girl". I'm afraid that I'll be hard to convince, but you can try.
On the contrary, it's exactly the same kind of casual comment.
Let's try giving reasons for our votes.
I'd like to say "let's not" just because I'm sick and not in the mood, but I already answered Romanic. Still, exactly what reasons do you think could be offered or given after a day like yesterday?
@Zack
How is it that you are requesting others to give a reason for their vote, while yours is fluff at best?
I meant something more than just Vote: Whomever.
Because he was the last voter of the day yesterday, and sometimes scum hold their votes a long time so they can see what way the wind's blowing.
I hadn't check this site until I voted.
I meant something more than just Vote: Whomever.
Are you saying that Renata was wrong to vote you without a reason, but your vote against fluffy is fine, for saying he's a spammer? I don't understand how your vote is better. Like I pointed out to GE on day 1, placing a vote without a reason is at least equal (and arguably better), than giving a fluff reason. I understand that fluff reasons have a fun factor on Day 1, but we're Day 2 now.
Are you saying that Renata was wrong to vote you without a reason, but your vote against fluffy is fine, for saying he's a spammer? I don't understand how your vote is better. Like I pointed out to GE on day 1, placing a vote without a reason is at least equal (and arguably better), than giving a fluff reason. I understand that fluff reasons have a fun factor on Day 1, but we're Day 2 now.
It was just a snarky reply to GE saying "Let's try...", nothing more really. This (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132957-The-Half-Monty&p=2053263202&viewfull=1#post2053263202) is the real reason I'm still voting for fluffy.
thefluffyone93
02-09-2011, 21:37
:wall::wall::wall:
You still missed the point of that comment.
IT WAS SARCASM.
YES I AM A SPAMMER NICE TO MEET YOU.
Me, a spammer?
Oh, never in a million, billion years......
Amiright?
Immediate squirmy reaction.
I see that you haven't played in the last Council of Villains, or you would know Fluffy.
His reaction is something I'd expect from him, and I wouldn't rank it as "squirmy". Coming from Fluffy, that kind of stuff is a null-tell. Also, I don't think it's realistic to see someone scummy for a jokey reaction to your jokey vote.
As for the omgus vote, maybe. It's actually the only thing making sense in your case.
vote: Khazaar
His last vote may be an attempt to swim under the radar. While everyone is talking about Zack/Fluffy, he's casually throwing a vote on slashandburn.
I see that you haven't played in the last Council of Villains, or you would know Fluffy.
His reaction is something I'd expect from him, and I wouldn't rank it as "squirmy". Coming from Fluffy, that kind of stuff is a null-tell. Also, I don't think it's realistic to see someone scummy for a jokey reaction to your jokey vote.
As for the omgus vote, maybe. It's actually the only thing making sense in your case.
There is nothing better to go off of than a bandwagonning OMGUS at this point in time.
Nightbringer
02-09-2011, 23:11
let's try with a second vote on you
Vote: Zack
Why exactly are we voting Zack? All I see is a nice little bandwagon starting to form. In the interest of avoiding that, I'll vote:god Emperor for telling people who to vote for without good reason.
thefluffyone93
02-09-2011, 23:20
Wait, pizza never specified if we can unvote or not.......
I see no reason for me to keep my vote zack simply
because he did not know about the way I post.
pevergreen
02-09-2011, 23:44
Vote: Fluffy
Bleigh!
God Emperor
02-09-2011, 23:57
Are you saying that Renata was wrong to vote you without a reason, but your vote against fluffy is fine, for saying he's a spammer? I don't understand how your vote is better. Like I pointed out to GE on day 1, placing a vote without a reason is at least equal (and arguably better), than giving a fluff reason. I understand that fluff reasons have a fun factor on Day 1, but we're Day 2 now.
I hope you noticed the joke in that post :laugh4:
Why exactly are we voting Zack? All I see is a nice little bandwagon starting to form. In the interest of avoiding that, I'll vote:god Emperor for telling people who to vote for without good reason.
What you see is a second vote on Zack.. that in itself should not be grand offense, imo. But the reason was quite simple.. as you noticed, I wrote that I wanted to see how a second vote is being handled by Zack and other parties. I don't think day 1 is enough to place good cases, at least I am not good enough to do that.. so giving another stab in the dark.. what I see is a Zack that get's extreemly jumpy as soon as he sees he is in the lead ; I may naturally be wrong
thefluffyone93
02-10-2011, 00:17
Vote: Fluffy
Bleigh!
Oh....
OH THERE BETTER BE AN UNVOTE OPTION.
MUST SWITCH
Nightbringer
02-10-2011, 00:26
I hope you noticed the joke in that post :laugh4:
What you see is a second vote on Zack.. that in itself should not be grand offense, imo. But the reason was quite simple.. as you noticed, I wrote that I wanted to see how a second vote is being handled by Zack and other parties. I don't think day 1 is enough to place good cases, at least I am not good enough to do that.. so giving another stab in the dark.. what I see is a Zack that get's extreemly jumpy as soon as he sees he is in the lead ; I may naturally be wrong
That sounds reasonable, but you could just as easily be scum just coming up with this to cover yourself in retrospect.
(edited for wording)
robbiecon
02-10-2011, 00:28
You better think twice before attacking Marjorie Simpson (nee Bouvier). I'll have my pan, and whatever else I can lay my hands on at the ready.
Now, I don't think Zack is the person who attacked me last night, but it's clear from my poor Bart being brutally picked upon yesterday that someone is out to kill us Simpsons.
So I'm gonna have to go with Vote: thefluffyone93
Yaropolk
02-10-2011, 00:53
As a member of the army who bravely fought for our country I find it offensive that you have voted for a vet.
CB comes out early on and claims to be a war vet. Immediately Grandpa Simpson comes to mind.
Back in my day we didn't have reason. We would draw straws to see who would be lynched. Whoever had the shortest straw we lynched them. Of course there were no general stores in our little town, so we had to walk fifteen miles to the next town over and get the straws there.
Csargo repeatedly comes out with rambling old man stories. Grandpa also comes to mind here. Csargo comes back with this claim multiple times, and CB doesn't speak up after this. I think CB tried to do a false claim early on then bit his tongue.
Vote: Captain Blackadder
CB, if there is another war vet character, then speak up now.
What you see is a second vote on Zack.. that in itself should not be grand offense, imo. But the reason was quite simple.. as you noticed, I wrote that I wanted to see how a second vote is being handled by Zack and other parties. I don't think day 1 is enough to place good cases, at least I am not good enough to do that.. so giving another stab in the dark.. what I see is a Zack that get's extreemly jumpy as soon as he sees he is in the lead ; I may naturally be wrong
:laugh4: "extremely jumpy"
robbiecon
02-10-2011, 01:13
Well, might I just say that Grampa Simpson, Hans Moleman and Jasper Beardly could potentially be candidates for older people in this game, However, I am unaware if either Hans or Jasper were war vets. It is likely that Grampa Simpson is the only one of these three in this game, but one of the others could potentially be here, it really depends on askthepizzaguy's preferences.
Captain Blackadder
02-10-2011, 01:24
CB comes out early on and claims to be a war vet. Immediately Grandpa Simpson comes to mind.
Csargo repeatedly comes out with rambling old man stories. Grandpa also comes to mind here. Csargo comes back with this claim multiple times, and CB doesn't speak up after this. I think CB tried to do a false claim early on then bit his tongue.
Vote: Captain Blackadder
CB, if there is another war vet character, then speak up now.
Now son that is no way to speak to a vet I know you can read my thoughts. Just remember, if I find out you are mafia, your ass is mine. Yes, you heard me. I think words I would never say. Don't just think of World War II there have being more wars.
robbiecon
02-10-2011, 01:31
Now son that is no way to speak to a vet I know you can read my thoughts. Just remember, if I find out you are mafia, your ass is mine. Yes, you heard me. I think words I would never say. Don't just think of World War II there have being more wars.
Ok, I know who you are now.
your ass is mine : quote from the Principal in Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
And Skinner is a Vietnam war vet.
Yaropolk
02-10-2011, 01:52
Your empty threats bounce off my ears like cheap imitation Chinese star wWars figurines . But I digress. unvote;
classical_hero
02-10-2011, 04:41
vote:Fluffy
Askthepizzaguy
02-10-2011, 05:36
Yes, unvoting is allowed, sorry if I didn't specify.
Captain Blackadder:
classical_hero: Fluffy
Csargo:
Death is yonder:
God Emperor: Zack
Johnhughthom: Renata
Khazaar: Slashandburn
Nightbringer: God Emperor
pevergreen: Fluffy
Renata: Zack
Robbiecon: Fluffy
Romanic: Khazaar
Slashandburn:
TheFluffyOne: Zack
Yaropolk: abstain
Zack: Fluffy
Fluffy: 4
Zack: 3
Renata: 1
Slash: 1
GE: 1
Khazaar: 1
abstain: 1
Not voting: 3
pevergreen
02-10-2011, 10:20
Ach, I don't be liking the idea of tossing this fluffy one out just because we said so. I kinna do eet.
Unvote: fluffy
Captain Blackadder
02-10-2011, 11:41
Vote Khazzar
I have the feeling that he is a no good ruffian.
Death is yonder
02-10-2011, 13:31
Vote: Zack
Just a hunch.
Diamondeye
02-10-2011, 14:55
Guys, Renata did it.
No I didn't.
unvote, vote Khazaar
I kinda like where Romanic is going with his vote.
Diamondeye
02-10-2011, 15:36
Flinch
:stare:
Yaropolk
02-10-2011, 16:22
Vote: Renata
God Emperor
02-10-2011, 16:44
Why ?
Leaning on a dead innocent, Yaropolk?
Yaropolk
02-10-2011, 17:46
Nope - just didn't like how you flinched. Townies wouldn't jump out 30 mins after an accusation from a dead person (and no votes on you) to go defend yourself.
Yes, they would, because I did.
Diamondeye
02-10-2011, 17:50
Shoot 'em both :tongue:
Works for me. Yaro first. :)
Vote: Fluffy
Bleigh!
Ach, I don't be liking the idea of tossing this fluffy one out just because we said so. I kinna do eet.
Unvote: fluffy
What changed your mind about Fluffy?
I'm not seeing any reason why you have been convinced that Fluffy isn't a good pick anymore.
Tally
3 Zack (GE, Fluffy, DIY)
3 Fluffy (Zack, robbie, classical)
3 Khazaar (Romanic, Blackadder, Renata)
2 Renata (JHT, Yaropolk)
1 slashandburn (Khazaar)
1 God Emperor (Nightbringer)
--
3 not voting )Csargo, pever, slashandburn)
Vote:Renata 4-way tie FTW!
thefluffyone93
02-10-2011, 21:51
ZOMGUS.
Why such a large tie?
Unvote: Zack
Only reason why he voted for me in the first place
is because he did not know how I posted (i.e: spammy)
slashandburn
02-10-2011, 21:56
Vote: Zack
1. Computer viruses suck
2. Why so jumpy man?
Diamondeye
02-10-2011, 22:32
More votes on Yaropolk please :tongue:
thefluffyone93
02-10-2011, 22:41
What was the reason again?
God Emperor
02-10-2011, 23:07
just remember guys.. Ties does not help to make scum nervous as a tie will result in a no lynch
pevergreen
02-10-2011, 23:46
What changed your mind about Fluffy?
I'm not seeing any reason why you have been convinced that Fluffy isn't a good pick anymore.
He be one that sinnied up fah me otha gam.
just remember guys.. Ties does not help to make scum nervous as a tie will result in a no lynch
Och, maybe yes, maybe no.
Vote: Zack
1. Computer viruses suck
2. Why so jumpy man?
Jesus, does anyone read my posts? If all of you are so determined to lynch me for no reason, go ahead and do it now. I really don't care anymore.
Oh Ye of little Faith, I smell Metagaming a Mighty. That´s not what they taught me at Lee Stasbergs and Havard, although it might be my break to get a leading role, even if it is Short and Bloody! So I ask of you, who´s more Fool? The Fool or the fool who Follows the Fool?
Unvote; Vote: Renata
Yaropolk
02-11-2011, 00:47
More votes on Yaropolk please :tongue:
At least twice as many!
thefluffyone93
02-11-2011, 01:12
He be one that sinnied up fah me otha gam.
Och, maybe yes, maybe no.
Can anyone translate this?
And Khazaar's wisdom knows no bounds!
Vote: Renata
Oh Ye of little Faith, I smell Metagaming a Mighty. That´s not what they taught me at Lee Stasbergs and Havard, although it might be my break to get a leading role, even if it is Short and Bloody! So I ask of you, who´s more Fool? The Fool or the fool who Follows the Fool?
Unvote; Vote: Renata
Look at Khazaar voting to save himself and giving an incomprehensible reason to do so. If this is roleplaying, I'm not fan enough of the Simpsons to understand any of it.
More votes on Khazaar please?
thefluffyone93
02-11-2011, 01:26
:wall::wall:
Unvote; Vote: Khazaar
Even though I liked his riddle, does not remind me of any Simpson character.
God Emperor
02-11-2011, 01:33
what do you mean by ' to save himself ' ?
there was a tie. that means no lynch.. I don't think those arguments are as valid in this game as in others
imo his character appears to be reverend Lovejoy
Nightbringer
02-11-2011, 01:43
Khazaar does seem to be acting strangely, but in the interest of avoiding a huge bandwagon, I'm going to keep my vote off of him. Maybe this is common for him, but pevergreen seems like he is acting very oddly to me. It almost smells of game enforced lunacy to me, something like the snarf in South Park Mafia, only more so, possibly a psychopath role. vote:pevergreen not a sure sign of much, I just think pevergreen is worth keeping in mind.
what do you mean by ' to save himself ' ?
there was a tie. that means no lynch.. I don't think those arguments are as valid in this game as in others
He's helping himself with that vote, although, you're right, he was not in immediate danger, it doesn't make the move isn't less scummy.
Yaropolk
02-11-2011, 02:22
1) How do we know tie = no lynch
2) Anyone have a tally?
1) How do we know tie = no lynch
Rules (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132957-The-Half-Monty&p=2053261935&viewfull=1#post2053261935)
Jesus, does anyone read my posts? If all of you are so determined to lynch me for no reason, go ahead and do it now. I really don't care anymore.
We didn't have posts back in my day. We just got two rocks and scratched our message into one of them and then threw them at each other.
Unvote:, Vote: Zack
Tally
4 Zack (GE, DIY, slashandburn, Csargo)
4 Khazaar (Romanic, Capt Blackadder, Renata, fluffy)
3 Renata (JHT, Yaropolk, Khazaar)
3 Fluffy (Zack, robbie, classical)
1 God Emperor (Nightbringer**)
--
1 not voting (pever)
** Did not unvote before voting pevergreen.
Nightbringer
02-11-2011, 07:06
oops, unvote, vote:pevergreen
Askthepizzaguy
02-11-2011, 09:02
Day Two
5 Khazaar (Romanic, Capt Blackadder, Renata, fluffy, "Askthepizzaguy")
4 Zack (GE, DIY, slashandburn, Csargo)
3 Renata (JHT, Yaropolk, Khazaar)
3 Fluffy (Zack, robbie, classical)
1 God Emperor (Nightbringer**)
--
1 not voting (pever)
Springfield City Hall
Waylon Smithers: "Those responsible for murdering Monty Burns are still at large. I think we should grab someone and make them pay for this crime. It's what Monty would have wanted; swift, brutal revenge."
Moe the Bartender: "Well uh, who do you recommends? We can't let a lynch mob like this go to waste. Let's get to the revengening (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132800-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening)!"
Groundskeeper Willie: "I think we should get rid of the fat one. Toss him in the school's deep fryer, and cover him with steak sauce and feed 'im to Mister Burns' hounds."
Comic Book Guy: "If that is the best execution you can come up with, then I will be on the internet in precisely 37 seconds blogging my displeasure for all to see."
Barney Gumble: "I think the monkey did it!"
Lisa Simpson: "What monkey, mister Gumble?"
Barney Gumble: "Who are you callin' a monkey, little miss smarty pants?"
Lisa Simpson: "No, I'm asking you, what monkey killed Mister Burns?"
Barney Gumble: "A MONKEY KILLED MISTER BURNS??? RUN AWAY, THERE'S A MURDEROUS MONKEY ON THE LOOSE!!!" *BELCH*
Marge Simpson: "If we have to do this unpleasant business, let's put it to a vote."
Sideshow Mel: "Indeed! The people must decide!"
Chief Clancy Wiggum: "Okay, I've got all the votes here in this box. And I'm sure it hasn't been tampered with, because the lock on the ballot box is unbroken."
Lisa Simpson: "But Chief Wiggum, it wasn't even locked. Someone has probably stuffed the ballot box."
Mayor Quimby: "Well err ahh who would commit that kind of voting fraud? I have faith in the ah people of err Springfield, to vote their conscience, and vote Quimby!"
Lisa Simpson: "But mayor Quimby, this isn't an election, it's an execution."
Mayor Quimby: "I knew that, but uh thank you for reminding me, sweet little girl. Let me just change my vote really quickly then."
*Mayor Quimby scribbles a different name on the piece of paper and shoves it in the ballot box*
Clancy Wiggum: "I've counted the votes, and the official tally is..... five votes for Sideshow Mel, and four votes for...."
Sideshow Mel: "What? This is an outrage! I demand a recount!"
Mayor Quimby: "Once again the people have er ah decided. Throw him in the deep fryer!"
Clancy Wiggum: "Deep fryer? Can't I just shoot him in the face or something?"
Homer Simpson: "Too late, pal! The mob has spoken!"
Seymour Skinner: "Lunchlady Doris, wheel in the industrial-sized fry-o-lator."
A massive vat of boiling grease (http://www.californiachips.com/FRYER.JPG) is brought into the middle of the meeting.
Ralph Wiggum: "That smells yummy. Is he going in the hot tub, daddy?"
Chief Wiggum: "Yes, my little Ralphie. Now you get to see how McDonald's chicken McNuggets are made!"
Ralph Wiggum: "Our dog's breath smells like cat poop!"
Sideshow Mel: "Oh, how it burns my skin! What a horrifying way to shuffle off this mortal coil!"
Groundskeeper Willie: "Ach, shut your noisemaker, you bone-wearin' motor-mouthed pudding cup! That oil isn't even hot enough to kill the E. Coli the chicken nuggets are swimmin' in, you grass-wearin' whistle-blower!"
Sideshow Mel: "Well if it's not hot enough to kill me, what's the point?"
Homer Simpson: "Marge, may I?"
Marge Simpson: "Here you go, homey."
Marge hands Homer the iron frying pan, who promptly bashes Wiggum's face so hard that it makes his nose look like a pig's snout.
Homer Simpson: "That's for arresting Mel Gibson! That man has brought the world nothing but wholesome, family friendly entertainment, like Braveheart and The Passion of the Christ, and Lethal Weapon 4!"
Clancy Wiggum: "OW!!! Was that really necessary?"
Marge Simpson: "Uh, Homey, we're executing Sideshow Mel...."
Homer Simpson: "Who?"
Marge Simpson: "Krusty the Clown's sidekick?"
Homer Simpson: "Oh, Bonehead? I got nothin' against him."
Sideshow Mel: "I always feared this fateful day would come. Cruel fortune..... but I must die with dignity. I have poisoned myself with strychnine, and it should be taking effect rather soon...."
Seymour Skinner: "Oh, sweet, innocent Mel. That oil is practically nothing but strychnine. The school has a bit of a rodent and bird infestation."
Lisa Simpson: "Which shouldn't even kill Sideshow Mel, as the Fox-owned Spring chemical manufacturing plant located next to the Springfield reservoir has been dumping excess strychnine into the town's water supply for decades, and everyone in town has already developed an immunity to the otherwise lethal poison."
Hans Moleman: "Not me..... I always drink bottled water...."
Lisa Simpson: "Well, if you drink any of the major brands that label themselves 'Spring' water, then you're drinking water that's been bottled at the Springfield reservoir, next to the 'Spring' chemical plant. That's why they can avoid lawsuits for false advertising while maintaining a surprisingly low production cost."
Hans Moleman: "I think I'm going to be sick...."
Lisa Simpson: "None of this would have happened if you all had listened to the school essay I wrote for Earth Day entitled 'Spring water, delicious natural refreshment, or toxic sludge?'"
Sideshow Mel: "I can't take this anymore. The child is too much of a know-it-all, even for me!"
Sideshow Mel takes the giant bone out of his hair and smashes his own skull in with it, ending his life.
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/SIMP24.png
Khazaar- Sideshow Mel
Sideshow Mel was innocent!
Alive: 15/18
Captain Blackadder
classical_hero
Csargo
Death is yonder
God Emperor
Johnhughthom
Nightbringer
pevergreen
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
Slashandburn
TheFluffyOne
Yaropolk
Zack
Dead: 3/18
Askthepizzaguy- Charles Montgomery Burns (Innocent)
Diamondeye- Bart Simpson (Innocent)
Khazaar- Sideshow Mel (Innocent)
Begin Night Two.
And yes, the tally was altered.
classical_hero
02-11-2011, 10:37
How many people are reading that with the voice characters in their heads? I know I am,
Yaropolk
02-11-2011, 15:25
So Zack, are you Quimby or his scum partner?
Whichever one is rolling their eyes more.
Askthepizzaguy
02-12-2011, 06:22
Night Two
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/Flanders_House_by_Chai_Tao.png
Flanders residence
Ned Flanders: "Ok Rodster, Toddster, did you brush your teeth and say your prayers?"
Rod Flanders: "Yes daddy! I prayed three times to make sure Jesus heard it!"
Todd Flanders: "I prayed four times to make sure Jesus could hear mine more!"
Ned Flanders: "Now sons, it's not a contest. Jesus will decide which of you has the purest soul on the day of your judgment."
Rod Flanders: "After we die and go up to heaven to see mommy again."
Todd Flanders: "When are we going to die, daddy?"
Ned Flanders: "Not for a long time. But don't you worry, if you two are good little boys, and grow up to be good men who love their wives and don't drink or dance or swear, then someday, it will happen to you, too."
Rod and Todd: "YAYYYY!!!!"
Ned Flanders: "If you pray really hard, maybe Jesus will let you know when Death is yonder."
Suddenly, Death is yonder stops reading and begins cursing at the computer screen. The rest of you keep reading. :quiet:
Rod Flanders: "Daddy, what were those strange words that bad man was saying?"
Ned Flanders: "Cover your ears, children. Those are curse words. And those who speak them know for certain that eternal Death is yonder."
Todd Flanders: "Death is yonder?"
Ned Flanders: "Yep, Death is yonder."
Rod Flanders: "Let me make sure I heard you Daddy. What was yonder?"
Ned Flanders: "Well, Rod my boy, Death is yonder. Those who speak the words of curse know that their death is yonder. And that's why you shouldn't say those words."
Todd Flanders: "Curse words make baby Jesus cry."
Rod Flanders: "And then, Death is yonder!"
Ned Flanders: "Yes, Death is indeed yonder. Having said that, it's getting late. I'm dead on my feet, and I feel a little stiff. I need to go rest in peace. And remember kids, tomorrow, we're going to go out to the country and see about buying that farm."
Rod and Todd: "YAYYYYY!!!"
Ned closes the door to Rod and Todd's bedroom, when he hears the click of a revolver. He turns around to see someone or something pointing the weapon right at his face.
Ned Flanders: "Well hidely ho, intruder-eeno. I see you've got a gun pointed at my sniffer. Well friend, I keep three hundred dollars cash in the box next to the front door, with a big old sign that says "help yourself". No need to give nervous Neddy the heebie-jeebies! And if you need help carrying off my big screen TV, I'll be happy to oblige!"
The intruder just grinned silently, and slid forward into the light, where Ned could get a good look at.... whatever it was. Cigar smoke swirled around the figure.
Ned Flanders: "Why, you.... you're nothing but a... a.... vicious, godless beast!"
The armed intruder just started laughing. The inhuman screeching continued, until the figure pulled the trigger, splattering Ned Flanders' brains all over the bedroom door.
Rod Flanders: "YAYYYY!!! Daddy's reunited with Mommy!"
Todd Flanders: "I guess Death really was yonder."
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/SIMP17.png
Death is yonder- Ned Flanders
Ned Flanders was innocent!
Alive: 14/18
Captain Blackadder
classical_hero
Csargo
God Emperor
Johnhughthom
Nightbringer
pevergreen
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
Slashandburn
TheFluffyOne
Yaropolk
Zack
Dead: 4/18
Askthepizzaguy- Charles Montgomery Burns (Innocent)
Diamondeye- Bart Simpson (Innocent)
Khazaar- Sideshow Mel (Innocent)
Death is yonder- Ned Flanders (Innocent)
Begin Day Three.
classical_hero
02-12-2011, 06:44
We are looking for a monkey, since he is our suspect. Mr Teeny needs to be put out of his misery.
Death is yonder
02-12-2011, 06:54
Bah :tongue:
Seems like I got killed for being a bit too on the mark eh Zack? :stare:
Plus killing the quiet guy is always a safe bet :beam:
johnhughthom
02-12-2011, 13:31
Mr Mayorman, I forgetted your secrets so it's unpossible for me to tell anybody.
pevergreen
02-12-2011, 14:32
No reeeeeal loss enyway, I heeted the churchie guay.
Yaropolk
02-12-2011, 15:18
vote: zack
Explain how and why you were saved from lynch last night.
It was a tie, silly. There's supposed to be no lynch when there is a tie, so I wasn't saved from anything by Khazaar getting an extra vote. And lynches happen during the day, not at night.
The Day 2 lynch is likely the result of someone having a tie-breaking ability, possibly one of the Khazaar voters. That would be why we've seen an *Askthepizzaguy* vote on Day 2 but not on Day 1.
DIY was voting Zack yesterday and he's dead today.
vote: Zack
Perhaps a little too easy, but we'll see.
thefluffyone93
02-12-2011, 23:00
Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Vote: Zack
Vote: fluffy
Second day in a row he's voted me only after:
1. Two others have voted for me
2. I was the clear favorite for the lynch
God Emperor
02-12-2011, 23:48
vote: zack
Explain how and why you were saved from lynch last night.
This is not good enough... We know a tie means no lynch.. and there was a tie yesterday, so Zack was never 'saved' by anyone. Thus your reason, if any, should be regarded as invalid.
judging by yesterday, Zack is today the absolute most easy target to vote for today, and people who are attacking him today should be focused on.
Vote: Yaropolk ; your vote today, and your follow up on DE's hunch
johnhughthom
02-13-2011, 01:17
Vote: Renata
What are these secrets I forgetted to remember? And what was that lady doing in your lap?
thefluffyone93
02-13-2011, 05:12
Vote: Renata
What are these secrets I forgetted to remember? And what was that lady doing in your lap?
Uh....Is someone supposed to understand this?
I want to hear something understandable for this vote.
Also...
Unvote
GE makes a good point.
Death is yonder
02-13-2011, 08:23
At the top of my post, I felt it necessary to include a small blurb that my post should by no means be considered the gospel truth to be followed simply because I'm confirmed innocent (I don't have any out of thread information to back this up, obviously), instead, just accord to me the credibility by not taking this post with a pinch of salt (EG: Considering posts to, but rather as any one person's possibly fallible line of thinking (that doesn't mean you can just dismiss the arguments in an off-hand manner though). I actually wanted to post this yesterday, before Zack's most recent posts, but I delayed it to see his reactions to the situation and they only reinforce my decision to go ahead with this. While a general accusation of Zack, I hope that this post serves its overall purpose to provide questions to mull over.
This is not good enough... We know a tie means no lynch.. and there was a tie yesterday, so Zack was never 'saved' by anyone. Thus your reason, if any, should be regarded as invalid.
judging by yesterday, Zack is today the absolute most easy target to vote for today, and people who are attacking him today should be focused on.
Vote: Yaropolk ; your vote today, and your follow up on DE's hunch
In my opinion when I viewed the extra vote, the thought process that followed was that:
Its day 2, if a pro-town character had this ability to add an extra vote (which most likely is a one-use ability owing to the size of the game), it would be saved for a crucial round to possibly turn the odds in the town's favor, or when a strong suspect might just escape the lynch in the late game. At this point, the information that said "pro-town" would possess (hypothetically if it was a pro-town that used it) would likely not justify its early usage against its potential importance in the late game, after all, it is only day 2 and the suspicion on Khazaar is just that he's being a low profile individual, which is what Khazaar usually if not always does (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132957-The-Half-Monty&p=2053263257&viewfull=1#post2053263257). Here, a slightly off track question must also be brought in to consider: Romanic acknowledges Fluffy's, well, Fluffy-ish style of being very jokey and all, but yet forgets to take into consideration Khazaar's somewhat lurker style. A question to ponder is, Why?
Therefore it must be considered also, why was it used on Khazaar and not Zack, or even, why was it used at all?
It seems unlikely that a pro-town individual in the given circumstance (little information in general to make an educated guess on whom to use an ability) would place a deciding vote to lynch somebody in the early game, especially when the choice is between someone is being his typical low profile style (Khazaar), and someone appears to be very twitchy and antagonistic, and choosing the person who is being typical to boot. (Perhaps my word choice is too strong, but Zack does seem to be very bitter and annoyed about his lynch, as if it would be the end of the world or something).
I feel that in conjunction with what has been said above, I probably should explain the "hunch" behind my last vote before I died.
Zack does not seem like he's trying to catch scum, merely trying to advance get through a lynch round with what he thought would be a decent vote. In this post, (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132957-The-Half-Monty&p=2053263128&viewfull=1#post2053263128) he advocates fluffy's lynch for as he calls it, being the most "egregious spammer", a rather negative word to use in my opinion. I'm not sure of Zack's view on off-topic posting [perhaps the CFC folk could provide some insight], but evidently his choice of words here indicate that he's voting fluffy because he perceives fluffy's post to be detrimental to the discussion. Not sure how that links to fluffy being scummy though, because after all, votes by innocent townspeople are meant to be placed on their strongest suspect, not the most "annoying" person.
In case its not here, here's a definition courtesy of dictionary.com
Egregious
–adjective
1.
extraordinary in some bad way; glaring; flagrant: an egregious mistake; an egregious liar.
When placed under a third vote by Fluffy (which places him convincingly in the lead in a short space of time) (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132957-The-Half-Monty&p=2053263198&viewfull=1#post2053263198), he reacts interestingly, defending his previous vote on fluffy to be something silly and trivial, which is contrary to his usage of the word egregious, which was in fact, a very strong word to be using and hardly trivial (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132957-The-Half-Monty&p=2053263202&viewfull=1#post2053263202).
Queerly enough, Zack changes his reasoning from "Fluffy the egregious and flagrant spammer must go" to "Fluffy who squirmed and OMGUS'd me while trying to play it cool and fit in" [which will make sense later in the post]
As Romanic points (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132957-The-Half-Monty&p=2053263237&viewfull=1#post2053263237) out (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132957-The-Half-Monty&p=2053263250&viewfull=1#post2053263250), Zack's case doesn't make that much sense either, but yet he pursues Fluffy's lynch because he knows that he's in the lead and he's going to have to come up with another lynch suspect to make it all go away.
Following suit from his previous example of changing his reasoning for voting Fluffy, in response to Romanic saying that only the OMGUS component of Zack's accusation made sense, Zack changes his "reasoning" for why Fluffy should be voted for [AKA why he thinks Fluffy is guilty] from "reacted scummily to my vote on him" to that of "bandwagonning OMGUS" after he realizes that his previous reasoning will not hold water in his attempt to make fluffy the lynch instead of himself. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132957-The-Half-Monty&p=2053263268&viewfull=1#post2053263268)
I will cautiously note, however, that Zack seemed content to leave himself voting Fluffy rather than saving himself by voting Khazaar or something.
On the other hand, it is extremely important to remember that Zack was trying to salvage himself from the lynch, and placing the deciding vote to lynch Khazaar would look very bad on himself, especially considering the fact that he was already almost lynched for being too twitchy and jumpy, reacting to save himself publicly would be a very bad idea. Taking a hypothetical situation where Zack is mafia, he would know that Khazaar will definitely turn out to be innocent, and as such, outright placing a deciding vote on Khazaar would simply result in him getting lynched next round.
Which then brings about my main/overall point:
Since it is unlikely that it was a pro-town role that placed the deciding vote on Khazaar rather than to leave it at a tie, a point that must be considered is that mafia do not like being left in a tie, especially when their lives are on the line, and most certainly, much less when they won't be around in the final moments of the round. With reference to the time stamps on the posts, the time period between Zack's last post and pizza's write up was approximately just over 6 hours. [Caution, assumption is that Zack lives in America/Canada/Similar timezone] Assuming that Zack is in the EST zone, he would have carefully reviewed the timing of the round and realized that it would end during a time where he would be sleeping.
With reference to all of his posts and the above assumption, Zack's latest post in any given day is about 10.30pm EST ++ (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132957-The-Half-Monty&p=2053260911&viewfull=1#post2053260911), which means that typically he would/might check the thread until that time perhaps plus minus an hour tops (because its only his last post, not his final thread check of the day). Csargo's vote change to Zack (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132957-The-Half-Monty&p=2053263942&viewfull=1#post2053263942) was at about 11pm EST which means that its plausible that Zack could have seen Csargo's post and simultaneously noted that any sudden change in the voting (with hours to spare) was possible. As such, it is extremely likely, that would Zack have possessed a vote altering/vote adding (in this case) ability, he would have used it as a safeguard against any vote switching that had a very high chance of resulting in his death [this voting round would be crucial to the mafia (surely if one of them died, they would be greatly crippled, it being so early in the game) and as such, warrant the use of this one use ability] (Which ties in with what I said about it being unlikely that a pro-town would have been the culprit that used this ability, as well as this nature of one shot ability typically being saved for crucial points of time)
ConclusionFinally? :tongue:
1. It is extremely unlikely that it was a pro-town role who altered the vote owing to very nature of the ability, in that it was likely one use, and would likely have been saved until a crucial period of time where said pro-town role would have more information to work with
2. Zack does not seem to be trying to make a conscientious effort to lynch what an ordinary townie would try his best to do, lynch who he thinks is mafia. Instead, he tries to lynch Fluffy based on "being a spammer (which implies annoyance rather than perception of guilty), and constantly changes his vote reasoning to fit public opinion.
a) When Fluffy OMGUS'd him, he omitted the causing factor [Fluffy voted him for not noticing that he IS a spammer, so Zack changes his reasoning from being a spammer to Fluffy's reaction to Zack's own vote]
b) Romanic criticizing Zack's reasoning, so Zack plucks out only what Romanic thought was valid in his argument, that Fluffy was OMGUS voting him (which in itself is not a very strong reason for constantly and doggedly voting someone for two straight rounds, and constantly alluding to Fluffy's guilt.
c) Playing the victim (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132957-The-Half-Monty&p=2053264758&viewfull=1#post2053264758) of Fluffy's two rounds in a row vote on him, and continuing on his modified reasoning [post Romanic criticism] as if it were his original reason in the first place. He tries to steer public opinion towards a lynch on Fluffy by focusing on Fluffy's bandwagoning, without stating how that could possibly mean that Fluffy is guilty. In essence, Zack is only trying to lynch people without making references to how the reasoning he poses leads to a conclusion of them being guilty.
3. Based on an assumption of Zack's timezone (to be EST/North America), as well as references to the typical time that Zack is online, it is clear that before the conclusion of Day 2's lynch, Zack knew that in the still many hours that he was unable to be online, it was highly possible that he could be pushed forward into the lead by a last minute decision [It is likely that witnessing Csargo's vote switch (which he likely was able to view before he went to bed) greatly upped this fear]
4. On a follow up with Point 3, he knew that he would be unable to outright and publicly secure his position and switch his vote to Khazaar because:
a) He would lose a lot of credibility. Up till now his in thread persona seemed totally convinced that Fluffy was guilty. Diverging now only to save himself would make him lose any credibility he possessed and result in him getting lynched next round
b) In addition, were Zack mafia, he would know Khazaar's alignment to be innocent. Since post-death reveals were the case in this game, last minute switching to Khazaar in public to save himself would not only make him lose his credibility utterly [in conjunction with Point 4a] but practically guarantee his immediate lynch next round.
5. As such, it fits very nicely, that in this dire circumstance where the mafia could be crippled in the early game, measures had to be taken to prolong Zack's lifespan without making him get instantly lynched the following round as suggested in point 4. The round was admittedly crucial, if Zack died in Day 2, the mafia would have to hobble along and hope for lots of good fortune to carry them through.
6. Earlier I mentioned that such an ability (the addition of a vote) would be conserved by whichever alignment possessed it until a crucial point of time. [A continuation of Point 1, as well as my question posed early on of:
Therefore it must be considered also, why was it used on Khazaar and not Zack, or even, why was it used at all?
a) It is extremely unlikely that it was a pro-town role that used it
ai) This ability, likely one shot in its nature (after all it being a small game), would be conserved in the off chance that the pro-town role would be able to turn around the odds in the end game, where town would normally have lost [1 Mafia 1 Townie/1 Mafia 2 Townies] to greater increase the chances of town winning
aii) Either that, or it would be conserved till at least the later rounds, so that with greater in-thread information to refer to, said pro-town role in possession of this ability (if it existed) would be able to make a more educated guess and better place this extra vote on a strong suspect to make sure the aforementioned suspect is lynched and does not worm his way out.
b) Moreover, the choice of the ability was Khazaar, rather than Zack. In my opinion, Khazaar was being the quintessential Khazaar. He was largely lurking, popping in here and there only, whereas Zack was twitchy, very jumpy, and his tone seemed bitter (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132957-The-Half-Monty&p=2053263859&viewfull=1#post2053263859) about being lynched, as if it was something really horrible to be doing, even though its was just Day 2 and townie lynches are an inevitable result of almost any mafia game. As such, it would be a huge gambit to waste a potentially game winning one-shot ability and use it on somebody for being himself were the intent of the usage pro-town.
7. Were Zack a mafia, this would indeed be the crucial time in the game to use the ability rather than to let himself possibly die in a time frame where he could do nothing about it. If the mafia were to go one man down in a small game this early, it would be very crippling, especially considering how little is gained from it.
8. Therefore, Zack or his teammate was making sure that he 100% would not get lynched this round, all at the same time avoiding any negative townie feedback which would result from him doing it via public vote change (and its working too, as seen by the current town opinion on the matter)
-----------------------------------------------
While you may argue that my case is based on hypothetical situations and does not account for human error, or perhaps just purely coincidental, there are way too many of these "coincidences" for me to ignore the situation. When one steps back and views the big picture, too many dots are joined and seem to fit PLUS we are but in Day 3, I think that the sheer number of coincidences cannot be overlooked and cast aside merely because you view that its just "suppositions".
While GE's point is valid to a certain extent that Zack "was not saved" because it was a tie in the end, the factor of "fear" must be considered strongly. Zack was likely around to witness Csargo's vote that changed it into a tie. This leads to a fear that someone else might do the same and push him in the lead. Zack is stuck in a catch-22 because if he changes the vote to make sure that he doesn't get lynched, public opinion of his actions will sour dramatically. Moreover, this fear is exacerbated because the round is ending at a point of time in the day where he is sleeping and thus helpless to make any last minute decisions. Hence, any smart mafia would take the necessary precaution to avoid the possibility of someone breaking the tie while he is sleeping by placing an extra vote on Khazaar. This means that even if somebody did switch to vote Zack, it would still be a tie, and hence he would be safe from the lynch, unless the highly improbable situation of two people last minute switching their votes occurred.
Anyway, I didn't spend over an hour typing this, and slogging through about half an hour of internet difficulties for this to be ignored. Kindly at the very least read through it and pause to think.
people who are attacking him today should be focused on.
So yes, I'm accusing Zack, do focus on what I'm saying and give me your thoughts :tongue:
That is all :bow:
If Zack isn't mafia, then at the very least I tried my level best :yes:
And I do apologize that there is no tl;dr version, because this is ultimately as condensed as I can make it without the substance and link between the points disappearing
thefluffyone93
02-13-2011, 08:26
:dizzy2:
So....much....text....
But I think I got the gist of it.
Vote: Zack
That was the gist of it right?
Death is yonder
02-13-2011, 08:32
And I do apologize that there is no tl;dr version, because this is ultimately as condensed as I can make it without the substance and link between the points disappearing
:shame:
That was the gist of it right?
Kinda.
Askthepizzaguy
02-13-2011, 08:37
Bah, I've made much bigger posts than that.
Death is yonder
02-13-2011, 08:38
Bahhh its only Day 3 :clown:
slashandburn
02-13-2011, 08:51
Your reasoning was clear, I wouldn't have switched the votes if I had that power. IT means that Zack has a very high chance of being mafia, fluffy, very high but not absolute. So,
Vote:Zack
Nightbringer
02-13-2011, 10:27
um, yah, what DIY said :D
But honestly, that made a lot of sense, and given the lack of much else to go on at this point, there really isn't much reason not to vote:zack
At the very least he will stop tying up all our attention.
On a side note, JHT, I think we would be better served by your contributing to the discussion than just voting Renata because of something about a lady and a lap.
Well all righty, enough of that.
I'm Mayor Quimby, and the tie-breaking vote was mine. It was not a one-off; it will show up whenever I am part of a bandwagon that is tied with any other for the lead at the end of the day. (It will not *cause* a tie.) Hence why Khazaar got lynched; I was voting for him.
I was wondering who would be the first to portray this as an anti-town power and why; and who would conclude that it was NOT an anti-town power, and why. I won't reliably be around until this evening, so this is as far as I can let it run.
Death is yonder
02-13-2011, 13:33
I was wondering who would be the first to portray this as an anti-town power and why; and who would conclude that it was NOT an anti-town power, and why. I won't reliably be around until this evening, so this is as far as I can let it run.
There was no precedent for this thus far, nobody could have known. I do not see why you phrase your above statement as such, as if trying to lower the credibility of my post, as if my post was a wild thought that escaped free and should be locked up and forgotten.
Anyway what's stopping you from being an anti-town role? Claiming Mayor Quimby hardly provides any insight into your alignment. If you've soft claimed your role and your abilities, show your full role. Right now the only people reaping the full benefits are the mafia, because they know your alignment and now they know your ability (if you're telling the truth in the first place). I also note that conveniently you have 12 more hours to prepare any defense of your role/faking a role pm. Since you're online now, do claim quickly, or you're not telling the truth and should be taken to be Zack's partner.
There is nothing to indicate your alignment as either town or anti-town. There is only inthread evidence that "Mayor Quimby" played around with the tally.
The write up was ambiguous, it could easily just have been an ability-wise vote manipulation as it could have been what you claim to be your ability.
In any case, I don't see why the case on Zack should be so off-hand discarded, and I'm extremely suspicious of the fact that you chose not to respond to several of my points indicating Zack's wishy washy lynch reasonings which were obviously not made to find a guilty party, but rather to incite the town against a particular individual (fluffy). Moreover, he, as evidenced by in thread posts, constantly edited his case on fluffy, if it could even be called a case, to fit townie public opinion, where I clearly mentioned in my post that he suited his reasoning merely to meet town expectations. **[Removed two words for ease in my meaning being conveyed]
Regardless of whether you are telling the truth or not Renata, why are you ignoring the substance in my post that remain strikes against Zack irregardless of your post? (Even assuming you are telling the whole truth).
Its day 3 and still early in the game, its a fairly decent lynch based on his in thread behavior regardless, and if its a wrong lynch the town is still strong. Lynch Zack, he has been twitchy and jumpy in thread, and his votes are clearly not attempts at trying to actually find suspects. I really don't see why this shouldn't be the case unless a better suspect can be brought up.
***Anyway, where's the role claim hmm? I remember in older mafia games they had a general saying that "Role-claim within 5 minutes or its fake" or something along those lines. I apologize if the grumpy tone of my post rubs you wrongly, but I did spend over an hour and a half making it not for it to just be discarded so in such a non-substantiated manner :bow:
*Edited for clarity [2minutes after actual post]
** Edited for greater clarity, and I note that Renata is STILL online. [10 minutes after post]
***Edited again [13 ish minutes after actual post]
**** And you went offline just like that, right. [16~ minutes after actual post]
johnhughthom
02-13-2011, 14:01
On a side note, JHT, I think we would be better served by your contributing to the discussion than just voting Renata because of something about a lady and a lap.
Dr Hibbert said mommy fastened my diapers too tight when I was a baby and cut off the bleeding flying around my body. That's why I'm special. Moo.
classical_hero
02-13-2011, 14:06
I'm losing my perspicacity, so I only have a quick vote:Fluffy.
Yes DIY, because every mafia acts abrasively. I also would like to apologize for giving reasons for my votes; I will do my best to neglect to do so in the future.
There was no precedent for this thus far, nobody could have known. I do not see why you phrase your above statement as such, as if trying to lower the credibility of my post, as if my post was a wild thought that escaped free and should be locked up and forgotten.
Dude, I'm not trying to lower the credibility of your post at all (in that sense); you're just wrong. I'm sorry you went to so much effort for nothing.
Anyway what's stopping you from being an anti-town role? Claiming Mayor Quimby hardly provides any insight into your alignment. If you've soft claimed your role and your abilities, show your full role.
I have not soft-claimed anything; that's the whole role. As such I didn't see much point to posting a role PM, but if you insist:
Mayor Joe Quimby
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/SIMP18.png
Role: "Diamond" Joe Quimby
Alignment: Innocent
Special Ability: Your vote acts as a tiebreaker. Whoever you vote for, secretly counts as double unless it would force a tie.
Victory Condition: All the murderers are wiped out. (Townie team victory)
Right now the only people reaping the full benefits are the mafia, because they know your alignment and now they know your ability (if you're telling the truth in the first place). I also note that conveniently you have 12 more hours to prepare any defense of your role/faking a role pm. Since you're online now, do claim quickly, or you're not telling the truth and should be taken to be Zack's partner.
This is just not true. Did you even go back and check my interactions with Zack yesterday? Does that really look like two mafia to you?
There is nothing to indicate your alignment as either town or anti-town. There is only inthread evidence that "Mayor Quimby" played around with the tally.
The write up was ambiguous, it could easily just have been an ability-wise vote manipulation as it could have been what you claim to be your ability.
I'm not going to try to engineer a tie with me in it just to allay your doubts, but I won't avoid it, either.
In any case, I don't see why the case on Zack should be so off-hand discarded, and I'm extremely suspicious of the fact that you chose not to respond to several of my points indicating Zack's wishy washy lynch reasonings which were obviously not made to find a guilty party, but rather to incite the town against a particular individual (fluffy). Moreover, he, as evidenced by in thread posts, constantly edited his case on fluffy, if it could even be called a case, to fit townie public opinion, where I clearly mentioned in my post that he suited his reasoning merely to meet town expectations. **[Removed two words for ease in my meaning being conveyed]
I didn't "choose not to respond", per se; I simply didn't have the time to. My claim should make no difference to Zack's overall scumminess or lack thereof, but I did intend it to shed light on what should and should not be considered evidence for that. That said, I think it quite possible that your conclusions about the "saving vote" are giving you some confirmation bias as regards Zack himself. I myself do not find him particularly scummy right now. I agree with his vote today on fluffy, and I'm most interested myself in the two players who used your (false) reasoning as evidence to join the Zack bandwagon. That would be slashandburn and Nightbringer. I think both should be greatly pressured.
vote: slashandburn
Regardless of whether you are telling the truth or not Renata, why are you ignoring the substance in my post that remain strikes against Zack irregardless of your post? (Even assuming you are telling the whole truth).
Because a) I didn't really read it (still haven't. will try to before the end of the day). I've been waiting for my "cue", so to speak, ever since Dawn, and a skim of your long post and the two votes following provided it. And b) My reveal had nothing to do with defending Zack, per se, only with (hopefully) trapping some opportunistic scum being opportunistic. So it wasn't particularly on my mind to care what you think about Zack himself.
Its day 3 and still early in the game, its a fairly decent lynch based on his in thread behavior regardless, and if its a wrong lynch the town is still strong. Lynch Zack, he has been twitchy and jumpy in thread, and his votes are clearly not attempts at trying to actually find suspects. I really don't see why this shouldn't be the case unless a better suspect can be brought up.
You don't think his vote on fluffy was any good?
***Anyway, where's the role claim hmm? I remember in older mafia games they had a general saying that "Role-claim within 5 minutes or its fake" or something along those lines. I apologize if the grumpy tone of my post rubs you wrongly, but I did spend over an hour and a half making it not for it to just be discarded so in such a non-substantiated manner :bow:
*Edited for clarity [2minutes after actual post]
** Edited for greater clarity, and I note that Renata is STILL online. [10 minutes after post]
***Edited again [13 ish minutes after actual post]
**** And you went offline just like that, right. [16~ minutes after actual post]
Yeah, you might want to check what the lag is on inactivity. I don't think I actually did anything on the site after posting; if there's a 15 minute lag, that would fit right in.
johnhughthom
02-13-2011, 15:21
I'm losing my perspicacity
Holds up a banana.
Here it is.
slashandburn
02-13-2011, 15:41
I have no reason to not believe DIY's statement, following your role reveal it becomes obvious that Zack is not as convincing a candidate as we once believed. so,I will
Unvote:Zack
Death is yonder
02-13-2011, 15:49
Dude, I'm not trying to lower the credibility of your post at all (in that sense); you're just wrong. I'm sorry you went to so much effort for nothing.
From my unenlightened point of view, it does seem very, if not extremely plausible. Oh bother, at least I tried, the material is out there for perusal, I've asked questions, restarted discussion in a different angle, and done my civic duty as a dead townie :shrug:
This is just not true. Did you even go back and check my interactions with Zack yesterday? Does that really look like two mafia to you?
A quick skim. Then again, you are rather capable of hiding your intentions in my opinion, and I am rushed for time.
I'm not going to try to engineer a tie with me in it just to allay your doubts, but I won't avoid it, either.
That's perfectly understandable, but my central point was that at the point of time, you presented an unsubstantial rebuttal of something that I did consider very likely from an independent point of view, especially considering that I hadn't factored in a creative curve ball by the host.
I didn't "choose not to respond", per se; I simply didn't have the time to. My claim should make no difference to Zack's overall scumminess or lack thereof, but I did intend it to shed light on what should and should not be considered evidence for that. That said, I think it quite possible that your conclusions about the "saving vote" are giving you some confirmation bias as regards Zack himself. I myself do not find him particularly scummy right now. I agree with his vote today on fluffy, and I'm most interested myself in the two players who used your (false) reasoning as evidence to join the Zack bandwagon. That would be slashandburn and Nightbringer. I think both should be greatly pressured.
Fair enough, but I'd still like an opinion from a CFC'er on whether Zack usually behaves in such a sardonic and sarcastic manner when pressured/faced with lynches.
Yeah, you might want to check what the lag is on inactivity. I don't think I actually did anything on the site after posting; if there's a 15 minute lag, that would fit right in.
Hmm alright.
You don't think his vote on fluffy was any good?
I'm saying that gradually his reasoning on fluffy evolved due to public criticisms of his reasoning. Its hardly his own reasoning anymore, but rather what he thinks the public will accept the best. You don't doggedly pursue a single suspect for many consecutive voting rounds simply based on wishy washy reasoning. If Zack had investigative results or something he would have mentioned it by now or at least alluded to it.
And Romanic still needs to answer my question about why he ignored the fact that Khazaar was being Khazaar but defended Fluffy being Fluffy, especially considering that he's played on this site for quite a while already.
Death is yonder
02-13-2011, 15:58
I have no reason to not believe DIY's statement, following your role reveal it becomes obvious that Zack is not as convincing a candidate as we once believed. so,I will
Unvote:Zack
Admittedly it was stated that I based it on quite a few assumptions:
1. That it was likely a one-shot ability (small game makes it untypical for pizza to allow multiple usages of a vote manipulation ability)
2. That it was even a usable ability (most certainly did not account for the possibility of a passive ability) [I'm still taking the claim with a pinch of salt though]
3. That Zack lives in Northern America (EST time zone), a detail which to me seemingly confirmed the fear element, especially seeing as how the typical population isn't extreme enough to purposely stay up till 3am/4am just to make sure that nobody broke the tie
However, in any case Renata, I will once again put forward that the reasoning of the case does seem to be very plausible from the unenlightened point of view, in conjunction with the fact that there was a noticeable lack of clear suspects, your suspicion of S&B and the others could as easily be invalid as it is valid.
Edit: However, if the opportunity does arise, you should at the very least demonstrate your ability, though it need not necessarily involve you being one of the lynch targets.
I have no reason to not believe DIY's statement, following your role reveal it becomes obvious that Zack is not as convincing a candidate as we once believed. so,I will
Unvote:Zack
Does this comment even make any sense?
Fair enough, but I'd still like an opinion from a CFC'er on whether Zack usually behaves in such a sardonic and sarcastic manner when pressured/faced with lynches.
I don't know. I can't remember him being pressured before.
Death is yonder
02-13-2011, 16:11
I believe that he's commenting on how previously he mentioned that:
Your reasoning was clear, I wouldn't have switched the votes if I had that power.
Which he agreed with in my case.
Yet now you said that clearly it was not the situation with your role reveal, so he switched. Seems clear to me.
You probably should do a deeper read once you have the time :yes:
However, JHT doesn't seem to be making sense. Do enlighten us all JHT.
I don't know. I can't remember him being pressured before.
Mmm..
Yaropolk
02-13-2011, 16:29
unvote: zack; vote: slashandburn I don't like how quickly he reacted to Renata's accusation by changing his vote but not offering an explanation. Also he would clearly be glad to slash Mr. Burns
God Emperor
02-13-2011, 16:50
bah just lost what I wrote.. =/ I will start over.
But thanks for your contribution DiY:)
Overall I will agree with you, but I will go through some of your points, for the sake of having more to work with :)
It is extremely unlikely that it was a pro-town role that used it
So yes, I'm accusing Zack
these are the two major points in your post (the last one is just being kept short so that it's more digestible)
I agree that the nature of the ability is somewhat anti townish.. Normally it wouldn't but in this game, where ties means no lynch, a tie breaking ability is working against the town's wishes as it will shorten the time we have to work with.
Zack is very aggresive, seems to care about the game, and is not working very hard to catch scum.. these are some of the points, and the first two bits I agree with, but for the sake of being fair I think we should go over his posts, to see how actively he is searching for scum.
Not voting Winston, eh? Who cares if he's not in the game?
Vote: JHT
a day 1 vote.. JHT votes for Renata and Zack votes for him.
I can't imagine why NOTW doesn't allow night talking. :shame:
adding this to second that he indeed cares about the game.. Spam is so far not good in any way.
Also, vote: Zack
Vote: fluffyone was the most egregious spammer last night.
a day two vote. Zack votes for fluffy with no reason and accepts Renata's no reason vote, as he does not make a comment on it.
let's try with a second vote on you
Vote: Zack
Let's try giving reasons for our votes.
With a second vote on himself it's not fun anylonger and he now quotes Renata and myself. ; changing behavior towards votes.
Silly Day Two vote based on something trivial.
Immediate squirmy reaction.
Trying to fit in and play it cool; finds an excuse to OMGUS.
My vote stays.
Zack mark down his own vote as silly.. Does not go well in hand with his reaction towards votes on him with no real reason imo.
The next two bits is an attack on Fluffy.. These are at least to try and scum hunt, however..
'Immediate squirmy reaction' I personally do not agree with the conclusion on Fluffy's behavior, as to me it seems like fluffy is joking around and having a good time.
This post's goal is to replace the old reason for voting fluffy with a better one. But the 'Silly Day Two vote based on something trivial' contradicts his reaction towards silly behavior.. that is worth a notice, although it has been observed before that some people a not treating themselves the way they are treating others.
I meant something more than just Vote: Whomever.
I hadn't check this site until I voted.
As mentioned by DiY, Romanic spots this contradiction.. Zack does not back off but keeps claiming that his vote on fluffy is better than a Vote: random. Imo suggests scared/rigid behavior.
:laugh4: "extremely jumpy"
Deflects accusations with aloof and mocking behavior.
Whichever one is rolling their eyes more.
again, defending himself with the rolling eyes and mocking behavior .. That has been observed in scums
Sorry if my comment's does not say a lot, the main purpose was just to have his posts listed.
I would say DiY is correct on Zack's behavior.. Zack is not trying to catch scum and that does not go well in hand with serious behavior.
But honestly, that made a lot of sense, and given the lack of much else to go on at this point, there really isn't much reason not to vote:zack
At the very least he will stop tying up all our attention.
As Zack's behavior alone should be enough to have him lynched, I think this is a good point.
It is extremely unlikely that it was a pro-town role that used it
Now Renata claimed Quimby rather early.. That in itself is an interesting move and should be looked at.
DiY suggests that there is a connection between Quimby and Zack, but Renata decides to make a counter to that claim
Well all righty, enough of that.
I'm Mayor Quimby, and the tie-breaking vote was mine. It was not a one-off; it will show up whenever I am part of a bandwagon that is tied with any other for the lead at the end of the day. (It will not *cause* a tie.) Hence why Khazaar got lynched; I was voting for him.
I was wondering who would be the first to portray this as an anti-town power and why; and who would conclude that it was NOT an anti-town power, and why. I won't reliably be around until this evening, so this is as far as I can let it run.
According to her post, Zack was not saved ad the accusation on Zack is more or less BS "Well all righty, enough of that."
I believe DiY points out that her focus is off.. anyway I will second his opinion (as I have done a couple of times now) .
She has nothing to say in regard of Zack's allignment.
As stated before this ability has a scummy feel to it, and that alone should mark down Renata as suspicious.
imo there are two things to look at when it comes to her
1) Why did she so quickly come to Zack's aid and reveal her ability?
2) How has her voting patterns and similar been so far. She is in charge of a powerful (and harmful) ability, and she should thus tread with caution. There is a certain quote I wanted to reach :p
Marge is my hero.
I just want to second what Romanic said a few days ago; Renata did this as a scum in another game.
Also, vote: Zack
Voting Zack.. so far so good.
No I didn't.
unvote, vote Khazaar
I kinda like where Romanic is going with his vote.
looking at Romanic's post
vote: Khazaar
His last vote may be an attempt to swim under the radar. While everyone is talking about Zack/Fluffy, he's casually throwing a vote on slashandburn.
You like where he is going with this? It's a fair vote in itself in fact, but I expected.. a bit more concidering what your vote leads to
Tally
3 Zack (GE, Fluffy, DIY)
3 Fluffy (Zack, robbie, classical)
3 Khazaar (Romanic, Blackadder, Renata)
2 Renata (JHT, Yaropolk)
1 slashandburn (Khazaar)
1 God Emperor (Nightbringer)
--
3 not voting )Csargo, pever, slashandburn)
She just doomed Khazar instead of Zack.. That's hard to overlook concidering the suspicion that has been gathered Zack.. If Zack turns out to be scum, then Renata should go. Zack was saved and he was saved by Renata.
Unvote; Vote: Zack
*That particular* accusation against Zack was BS, because I am the reason why he was saved, and I am town. Kindly don't put words in my mouth.
Oh, and don't tell me how I should play with my role, either. Or if you must insist on me being "more careful", then tell me how I'm supposed to anticipate being part of a tie at the time I made my last post, given where I live and when the deadline is, and given how useless a tie vote is anyway.
thefluffyone93
02-13-2011, 19:13
I'm losing my perspicacity, so I only have a quick vote:Fluffy.
Losing your WHAT?
Oh hey, you voted for me.
[...] the suspicion on Khazaar is just that he's being a low profile individual, which is what Khazaar usually if not always does (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132957-The-Half-Monty&p=2053263257&viewfull=1#post2053263257). Here, a slightly off track question must also be brought in to consider: Romanic acknowledges Fluffy's, well, Fluffy-ish style of being very jokey and all, but yet forgets to take into consideration Khazaar's somewhat lurker style. A question to ponder is, Why? [...]
I didn't vote Khazaar for lurking/being low profile, I was voting him because he failed to participate to the main discussion (Zack vs Fluffy) when everybody was doing it. I think they're two different things. If you're saying that I should have given a free pass to Khazaar because he's a typical lurker, then I'll have to disagree with you. Lurkers shouldn't walk free for being useless, for lurking, or any action with a possible scummy motivation.
Spamming, on the contrary, doesn't have much scummy motivation, if any.
I didn't particularly care about voting for Zack, I did it to see who would follow behind me, and I've been of GE's (first) opinion all along: Zack is too easy a target and people going after him should be suspected. Now I see that GE changed his mind, but I didn't.
Yes Zack gave weak reasons to vote Fluffy, and yes he may not be looking hard for Scum, but I think the fact that DIY was kiilled yesterday, after voting for Zack, points toward a frame attempt rather than Zack getting rid of people suspecting him.
unvote Zack; vote: slashandburn
For backing down when it appears that voting Zack could be seen as a bad move.
Tally
3 Zack (Thefluffyone, Nightbringer, God Emperor)
3 slashandburn (Renata, Yaropolk, Romanic)
2 Thefluffyone (Zack, classical_hero)
1 Renata (johnhughthom)
---
5 not voting (Capt Blackadder, Csargo, pevergreen, robbiecon, slashandburn)
Around 10 hours to go, based on ATPG's last writeup (00:22 EST)
If you want to see how I acted when I was innocent and being lynched, look at Those Darn States and Zelda Mafia on TWC.
As for sarcasm in general, clicky (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131244-Star-Wars-Fall-of-the-Order-Information-Thread&p=2053239940&viewfull=1#post2053239940). (Day 6)
Ah, sarcasm. A townie's best friend.
It's tough to be sarcastic and lie at the same time. It feels very dirty.
Try it, because sarcasm is based on what YOU find funny or ironic. If you don't believe your lie is the truth, then you don't think sarcasm based on that lie is funny, because it's not funny to YOU, because you know what the real truth is.
Humor is an important weapon in mafia games. If the joke is off, that indicates there's something wrong with your sense of humor. Which means you're uptight, anxious, stressed, or lying.
Which means you're scum.
Here, the sarcasm works. It fits a relaxed but irritated psychological state. The sarcasm is quick, biting, and honest. That's townie. That's something you can take to the bank.
Try telling jokes about your lies, in a way that you find directly funny, not funny in a meta-sense. It's hard to tell a joke you find funny while lying, because it doesn't "ring true".
Jokes are serious business.
As for not looking hard for scum, what I'm doing with fluffy has worked in a similar style of game hosted by ATPG (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?p=7905307#post7905307) before (not exactly the same, but similar).
As for suspects, I think that we should be concentrating on fluffy and slashandburn.
slashandburn
02-13-2011, 22:36
I don't see why me unvoting Zack should cause an instant bandwagon especially Yaropolk using my name to insinuate that I'm mafia. And Mr. Burns was shot, not stabbed.
robbiecon
02-14-2011, 02:49
I have been reading the thread on my iPod, but writing isn't much fun on it.
Ok, well we have zack, who I firmly believe is being framed, and a dead obvious one at that. Slashandburn, well I do not see the sense in that either, where exactly did that come from? And fluffy is just a continuation from yesterday.
I'm thinking we should perhaps vote for Romanic, he's really taken control of the game, what with posting vote counts etc. Perhaps he's trying to emphasise who is currently being voted for, so that those who haven't voted yet just go for those with more votes. Also he voted for zack after Yaropolk, even stating that it seemed too easy a set up but going with it anyway.
I won't vote for Romanic at this venture, as it is merely speculation, but if I , Marge should be attacked again, I'd like if you could lynch him. Also he's one of those who hasn't really implied who he is, while many have hinted.
thefluffyone93
02-14-2011, 03:31
Whats the reason for the single vote on Renata?
I got lost amongst the huge posts either accusing Zack of mafia, me of mafia,
or accusing Zack because of me.
or something like that.
I'm thinking we should perhaps vote for Romanic, he's really taken control of the game, what with posting vote counts etc. Perhaps he's trying to emphasise who is currently being voted for, so that those who haven't voted yet just go for those with more votes.
Controlling the game by posting vote counts! :laugh4:
I'm not controlling anything. I do tallies in most of my games, and I don't know where you get the idea that tallies incite people to vote for the leaders. A Town player is expected to vote for who they think is scummy, not to be mindlessly following the pack. If anything, it's the mafia who are tempted to join bandwagons because they have a harder time making good arguments on their own.
Also he voted for zack after Yaropolk, even stating that it seemed too easy a set up but going with it anyway.
Yes, and I explained that I didn't really believed Zack was guilty, that I was doing it to see who would vote for him after me. My vote isn't on Zack anymore.
I won't vote for Romanic at this venture, as it is merely speculation, but if I , Marge should be attacked again, I'd like if you could lynch him. Also he's one of those who hasn't really implied who he is, while many have hinted.
Why would it be me if you are attacked again? I don't understand. Am I supposed to have a grudge with you?
About claiming, I've never been a fan of it, without a good reason, and I'm not expecting this game to be solved with a mass claim, not with ATPG hosting.
Askthepizzaguy
02-14-2011, 05:23
I'm not expecting this game to be solved with a mass claim, not with ATPG hosting.
MWAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!! :evil:
Bah, slashandburn isn't trying to save himself, and nobody else is either. I don't like this so,
unvote; vote: Fluffy
and heading to a no lynch.
Hmmm, no update still? Can we still vote?
I can't sleep and I am second guessing myself. No lynch doesn't look like a good idea.
unvote fluffy; vote: Zack
Askthepizzaguy
02-14-2011, 07:43
Errr, right, I should have ended the round at 12:22. Sorry, was wrapped up in something. To be fair, I can only count votes within the 48-hour period.
I'll get started on this now.
Oh well. No lynch it is, unless we see another surprise.
Askthepizzaguy
02-14-2011, 07:51
Day Three
Town Hall
The group argued and bickered, and then got tired of it and counted up the votes.
Zack (3): Fluffy, NB, GE
Fluffy (3): Zack, Romanic, Classical
Slash: Renata, Yaro,
Renata: JHT
abstain: slashIt turned out, the vote was deadlocked, and they couldn't agree on what to do. Without a clear course of action chosen by a plurality, the Mayor had no choice but to order the citizens back home to get some rest.
Mayor Quimby: "I er ah think that what we need right now is decisive leadership! So, what I will do, as your Mayor, is wait and see what you think tomorrow!"
Alive: 14/18
Captain Blackadder
classical_hero
Csargo
God Emperor
Johnhughthom
Nightbringer
pevergreen
Renata
Robbiecon
Romanic
Slashandburn
TheFluffyOne
Yaropolk
Zack
Dead: 4/18
Askthepizzaguy- Charles Montgomery Burns (Innocent)
Diamondeye- Bart Simpson (Innocent)
Khazaar- Sideshow Mel (Innocent)
Death is yonder- Ned Flanders (Innocent)
Begin Night Three.
That was quick, but no cool writeup. :(
Pizza is not happy with the activity level.
Askthepizzaguy
02-14-2011, 08:00
That was quick, but no cool writeup. :(
Pizza is not happy with the activity level.
Pizza is creatively drained from the Revengening (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132800-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening) design process. Personal goals are not easy to design and balance.
Pizza is creatively drained from the Revengening (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?132800-Askthepizzaguy-Mafia-II-The-Revengening) design process. Personal goals are not easy to design and balance.
Personal goals? We didn't have personal goals whenever I was a kid. We had a stick and a hoop. We would push the hoop around with the stick and we were happy with that. Didn't need personal goals back then, I don't know what's wrong with you kids today.
Askthepizzaguy
02-14-2011, 09:26
Personal goals? We didn't have personal goals whenever I was a kid. We had a stick and a hoop. We would push the hoop around with the stick and we were happy with that. Didn't need personal goals back then, I don't know what's wrong with you kids today.
Hoops? You had hoops??? In MY day there were no hoops. We had two games, poke someone in the eye with a stick, or get poked in the eye with a stick. And sometimes we didn't even have a stick, and we had to experiment with whatever else we had just hanging around that we could poke each other with.
I'd prefer not to talk about that game...
johnhughthom
02-14-2011, 17:10
Hoops? You had hoops??? In MY day there were no hoops. We had two games, poke someone in the eye with a stick, or get poked in the eye with a stick. And sometimes we didn't even have a stick, and we had to experiment with whatever else we had just hanging around that we could poke each other with.
I'd prefer not to talk about that game...
I saw Mr Smithers playing that game.
Askthepizzaguy
02-15-2011, 08:59
I don't have all orders in yet, and I'm a little tired. I'm giving an extension to be both nice and selfish at the same time. :beam:
Askthepizzaguy
02-16-2011, 07:54
I don't have all orders in yet, and I'm a little tired. I'm giving an extension to be both nice and selfish at the same time. :beam:
Thank you for your patience. Will do the writeup immediately.
Askthepizzaguy
02-16-2011, 08:30
Night Three
Town Hall
Mayor Quimby: "How would you uh like a street named after you?"
Porsche: *loud giggling*
Mayor Quimby: "I could make you my top advisor on women's issues."
Alexis: "I thought I was your top advisor?"
Mayor Quimby: "You're my top advisor on sexual harassment in the workplace."
Alexis: "Can I get a raise?"
Mayor Quimby: "If you do that er ah thing we talked about, I'll triple your salary."
Alexis: *giggling* "Okay!"
http://deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/barts-inner-child2.png?w=512&h=384
*BUZZZZZ*
Mayor Quimby: "Be right back, girls. That's the pizza I ordered."
.......
Delivery Man: "Your total is $23.97."
Mayor Quimby: "Here is 24 dollars. You can er ah keep the change."
Delivery Man: ...........
When they found Mayor Quimby's body, a team of highly trained monkeys were able to piece together most of it. Deep inside his lower intestine, they found three shiny pennies.
https://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb225/askthepizzaguy/ATPG%20II/SIMP18.png
Renata- Mayor Quimby
Mayor Quimby was innocent!
Alive: 13/18
Captain Blackadder
classical_hero
Csargo
God Emperor
Johnhughthom
Nightbringer
pevergreen
Robbiecon
Romanic
Slashandburn
TheFluffyOne
Yaropolk
Zack
Dead: 5/18
Askthepizzaguy- Charles Montgomery Burns (Innocent)
Diamondeye- Bart Simpson (Innocent)
Khazaar- Sideshow Mel (Innocent)
Death is yonder- Ned Flanders (Innocent)
Renata- Mayor "Diamond" Joe Quimby (Innocent)
Begin Day Four.
Nightbringer
02-16-2011, 09:37
I sense possible allusions to real life in this write-up.
Askthepizzaguy
02-16-2011, 14:23
I sense possible allusions to real life in this write-up.
Several times daily, without fail.
Curse the store that makes 10 dollar pizza plus 10 dollar pizza plus 2.50 delivery plus sales tax end up with a .97 on the end of the price.... didn't they realize that the number would make up about half of their order totals, and people will just leave the pennies? Argh and harrumph.
vBulletin® v3.7.1, Copyright ©2000-2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.