New Tradition: Interesting Wikipedia link of the week 2/5/11 - 2/12/11

[a completely inoffensive name]

This week, a dog named Stubby who was promoted to Sergeant in the US military for his actions in WW1.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sgt_Stubby

Discuss.

[Ibrahim]

This week, a dog named Stubby who was promoted to Sergeant in the US military for his actions in WW1.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sgt_Stubby

Discuss.

so he did sth that earned a promotion. big deal. the fact that it is a dog doesn't really change matters much: if it can perform duty, shoot/kill, then I couldn't give a darn.

[a completely inoffensive name]

so he did sth that earned a promotion. big deal. the fact that it is a dog doesn't really change matters much: if it can perform duty, shoot/kill, then I couldn't give a darn.


IT'S AN INTERESTING DOG NEVER THE LESS :daisy: IT, LETS TALK ABOUT IT!

[a completely inoffensive name]

LOOKS LIKE I HAVE TO JUMP START THIS THREAD WITH SOME CONTROVERSY.

I THINK THIS DOG IS CUTE, AGREE OR DISAGREE?

[PershsNhpios]

I dislike your traditions, why can't you do something useful with your conservative spirit - like re-inventing Christmas?

[Subotan]

THE PUPPY HAS MEDALS

I APPROVE

[A Nerd]

A fine animal! Stubby deserved all the commendations he received! :)

[Motep]

The dog was a higher rank than his owner. XD

[Hooahguy]

Just read about Stubby in the "Horrible Histories" books. Also read that some generals objected to giving him medals because it would make the medals given to the "real" soldiers mean less.
Or something like that.

[Fisherking]

Just read about Stubby in the "Horrible Histories" books. Also read that some generals objected to giving him medals because it would make the medals given to the "real" soldiers mean less.
Or something like that.

You think thats bad?

The dog served an active role and had combat missions.

On the other hand the Norwegian Army has a bird brain in charge of the King’s Guard. Not only is he Colonel-in-Chief of the unit he has also been Knighted.

Sir Nils Olav.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nils_Olav

[Togakure]

:smiley: this is all new to me; entertaining, given my love of critters.

Here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Windsor_%28goat%29)'s a piece on William (Billy) Windsor, lance corporal in the 1st Battalion of the Royal Welsh, British Army.

[Strike For The South]

Dogism is still very prevalent in the military. I know ACIN is going to tout this token as some sort of symbolism of interspecies cooperation in the United States, when in reality this is the only dog to be promoted to SSgt in 100 years.

There is a cold place in hell for people like you

[a completely inoffensive name]

Dogism is still very prevalent in the military. I know ACIN is going to tout this token as some sort of symbolism of interspecies cooperation in the United States, when in reality this is the only dog to be promoted to SSgt in 100 years.

There is a cold place in hell for people like you

Of course I will, what you just said is rubbish. Dog's have had (more or less) equal treatment since the Bow-Wow Right Act of 74. Or did you completely skip over the "I have a bone." speech of 71 in history class?

No, the problem isn't inter species cooperation. As has been pointed out in the backroom, the US military has been terrible with the exception of the SEALs and possibly the Marines. You can see how dogs in both those groups are excelling in their groups and are getting medals every other day practically. The majority of dogs are simply in the larger military and have simply caught the lazy flu that seems to plague modern western military's.

Although I do have to say, I would take an American Army dog over any Euro war dog any day of the week.

[Major Robert Dump]

Thats not a fair and balanced sattement, ACIN. You would seriously take a Yorkshire Terrier in the National Guard who has never even had bayonet training because its too fat over an Italian Mastiff that is Airborne quailified and served full time as a SniperSealRanger? Just because its American? That's racial dude.

Dogs save lives in combat. I won't bore you with stories from Afghanistan, but they are an invaluable resource on the battlefield and in most cases a more effective ally than an Afghan Army soldier.

Anyone who thinks their awards are less valuable because a dog got one needs to grow a sense of humor and get off their self-congratulatory high horse.

[Hooahguy]

Italian Mastiff that is Airborne quailified and served full time as a SniperSealRanger?
Dogs can be AB qualified, serve as snipers and get bayonet training?
Awesome!

[a completely inoffensive name]

Thats not a fair and balanced sattement, ACIN. You would seriously take a Yorkshire Terrier in the National Guard who has never even had bayonet training because its too fat over an Italian Mastiff that is Airborne quailified and served full time as a SniperSealRanger? Just because its American? That's racial dude.

Well now that is precisely the point I am making about the terrible quality of American armed dog forces. We don't even train them with bayonets because they are too lazy to do anything other then bark in their chair and pull a trigger.

Now quite frankly, it is just a fact that Euro dogs are just not up to the quality of American dogs. Now, I will say that some of the breeds that sign up out of urban areas like New York are absolutely terrible, but you give me a good rural dog from the heartland and he can go paw to paw with any breed from pacifist Europe and win.

Our dogs are volunteers, while half of these euro dogs are there due to conscription. It automatically gives our boys the edge in sheer gumption which you can't calculate in your statistics.

[Fisherking]

All wrong!

Those American dogs would rather go into law enforcement where they can sniff drugs.

[Hooahguy]

Well now that is precisely the point I am making about the terrible quality of American armed dog forces. We don't even train them with bayonets because they are too lazy to do anything other then bark in their chair and pull a trigger.

Now quite frankly, it is just a fact that Euro dogs are just not up to the quality of American dogs. Now, I will say that some of the breeds that sign up out of urban areas like New York are absolutely terrible, but you give me a good rural dog from the heartland and he can go paw to paw with any breed from pacifist Europe and win.

Our dogs are volunteers, while half of these euro dogs are there due to conscription. It automatically gives our boys the edge in sheer gumption which you can't calculate in your statistics.
I think you are way oversimplifying it.
What about European dogs from Urban areas like London or Paris in compared to rural American dogs?
Dogs =/= the mindset of Europe. Just because some people in Europe are pacifist, does not mean that the dogs are any less capable. In fact, after 9/11, dogs were "shipped" in from all over the world to assist in the search for bodies among the rubble.


But I hint a ting of sarcasm in ACINs posts.

[Strike For The South]

All wrong!

Those American dogs would rather go into law enforcement where they can sniff drugs.

Typical Stereotype with no basis in reality, dogs live in their shacks due to poverty and a system that inherntly denies them oppurtinuity

European Dogs have much better social mobilty

[Fisherking]

Well, European dogs have their share of drug sniffers too. Don’t think they don’t

But it is statistically higher in America than any place else. Just like teen pregnancy.

And social mobility is not that great in Europe. The class system still exists to some extent.

The overall poverty of American dogs is due to too high a birth rate. In Europe they just castrate everything...

[a completely inoffensive name]

I think you are way oversimplifying it.
What about European dogs from Urban areas like London or Paris in compared to rural American dogs?
Dogs =/= the mindset of Europe. Just because some people in Europe are pacifist, does not mean that the dogs are any less capable. In fact, after 9/11, dogs were "shipped" in from all over the world to assist in the search for bodies among the rubble.

A German Shepard from Munich vs. an American Foxhound from Texas. How is that? (And German Shepard's are probably on average quite a bit better than other European dogs, so I think that is fair.

Breeds, both Euros and Americans, know that war stinks, but Americans also believe that it can be used to fix problems a lot more than Euros do. Do you know what I mean?


Typical Stereotype with no basis in reality, dogs live in their shacks due to poverty and a system that inherntly denies them oppurtinuity

European Dogs have much better social mobilty

Who is using stereotypes? Head over to any leftist doghouse and they are all on the dole. No one moves up or down because all the European dogs just love living off all of the hard working dog's Milk-Bones.


Well, European dogs have their share of drug sniffers too. Don’t think they don’t

But it is statistically higher in America than any place else. Just like teen pregnancy.

And social mobility is not that great in Europe. The class system still exists to some extent.

The overall poverty of American dogs is due to too high a birth rate. In Europe they just castrate everything...

I don't see what Teen Pregnancy has anything to do with drug sniffers, it's well known that American breeds have a higher level of virility.

[Tuuvi]

What I want to know is WHERE THE HELL WAS PETA DURING WWI?

[Hooahguy]

Breeds, both Euros and Americans, know that war stinks, but Americans also believe that it can be used to fix problems a lot more than Euros do. Do you know what I mean?


What does that have to do with anything?
Dogs are dogs. They will do anything for their masters.

[Strike For The South]

Implying the Dog has a master is the root of the while problem

Speciest

[a completely inoffensive name]

Implying the Dog has a master is the root of the while problem

Speciest

How about you attack my arguments instead of me?

[Major Robert Dump]

How about you attack my arguments instead of me?

How about you read his posts. You obviously only read the first word, so you are with the word "implying". How can you areu with a word?

The thought that an American weiner, no matter how well trained, could beat a Euro weiner is a typical straw man argument on your behalf. I've had American weiners and Euro weiners, even both at the same time (it was frat party, ok!) and the Euro weiner was bigger, more graceful and could do far more tricks than the American weiner. In fact, the American weiners just kind of sat there, limp and tired, unresponsive to petting, and they peed on my bear rug.
Typical straw man scenario.

[Hooahguy]

The thought that an American weiner, no matter how well trained, could beat a Euro weiner is a typical straw man argument on your behalf. I've had American weiners and Euro weiners, even both at the same time (it was frat party, ok!) and the Euro weiner was bigger, more graceful and could do far more tricks than the American weiner. In fact, the American weiners just kind of sat there, limp and tired, unresponsive to petting, and they peed on my bear rug.
Typical straw man scenario.

This post is full of win.

[a completely inoffensive name]

How about you read his posts. You obviously only read the first word, so you are with the word "implying". How can you areu with a word?

The thought that an American weiner, no matter how well trained, could beat a Euro weiner is a typical straw man argument on your behalf. I've had American weiners and Euro weiners, even both at the same time (it was frat party, ok!) and the Euro weiner was bigger, more graceful and could do far more tricks than the American weiner. In fact, the American weiners just kind of sat there, limp and tired, unresponsive to petting, and they peed on my bear rug.
Typical straw man scenario.

um...actually you are quite wrong. I know enough from training in martial arts to know that the dogs who come in and really want to be the best and train the hardest and give more than everyone else DO become the best!
Marine dogs DO want to be the best. SEAL dogs want and need to be the best. Simply from the American breeds I have known, the Euro breeds I have know, the American military dogs I know, the Euro military dogs I know, I have seen a LOT more of that drive to be the best amongst the American breeds. Also, I think certain aspects of American society (including that horrible American exceptionalism) really foster that competitive drive. Your problem MRD, is that you simply do not read my posts.

[Major Robert Dump]

I'm done arguing with you. Even though I am right and you know it, I am going to report myself for flaming and demand a 3 day ban. I suggest you report yourself, too

[Centurion1]

*insert vulgarities*

[a completely inoffensive name]

I'm done arguing with you. Even though I am right and you know it, I am going to report myself for flaming and demand a 3 day ban. I suggest you report yourself, too

I already have. Obviously, my ideas are absolutely baseless, crude, and absurd but I don't want to acknowledge this so I will play the victim card to help provoke the 3 day ban for you.