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vartan
05-05-2011, 19:59
Don't forget you had a landlocked bonus in Gold, which you lost when you conquered a coastal province. Since it was also a Gold province, you didn't end up losing Gold but only on the Wood.
Can you please explain this, since it doesn't show up on the original post? (i.e., how does adding a province make you lose gold income? and how does it make you lose wood income as well? intuitively more land means either some gain or no gain, but not loss, right?)

TheLastDays
05-05-2011, 20:11
So you have chosen to die, greek murderer of skythian women and children? So be it...

A_Dane
05-05-2011, 20:22
huh? you betrayed me, not the other way around, you're the only one choosing death here.

TheLastDays
05-05-2011, 20:25
I haven't said you betrayed me, did I? You still have the choice to live though, that's what I meant ;)

A_Dane
05-05-2011, 20:35
Ehrm no. The* logical decision is to completely disregard any deal with you, as you've proven to be unreliable, and instead remove you - which is what I'm gonna do.

vartan
05-05-2011, 22:23
Ehrm no. The* logical decision is to completely disregard any deal with you, as you've proven to be unreliable, and instead remove you - which is what I'm gonna do.
I have to agree with this.

Hey Jolt, why don't you use a spreadsheet to keep track of things? The original post is all vertical, so it makes finding things a bit harder. Google's doc app really helps things out. I've made one that's accurate as of this writing. You can copy it to use if you wish. Here's the link:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AspgdrJqBnJBdEtkZ21udnBtXzRjbUFCUDh4ZVdsMWc&hl=en

jirisys
05-05-2011, 22:28
"barbarian" lands in front of you actually belongs to the Boii tribes, they are much more civilized than you, Illyrian pirates and cutthroats. Now, get out of my sight. May Roman boots crush your bones and cleanse your cities with fire. Ending the piracy in mediterrania

Not the ones he owns. So that pretty much makes you an agressive and paranoid fellow; I have not seen a barbarian resist the might of rome. If it is to continue, why would you be any different than the arverni?

Besides, you telling me to give you the price of Rhodes or you would take it anyways, makes you a very unstable king. A reckless and imbecilic, to think that in war we would not defend our lands? May armenia and the seleucids crush your puny soul.

~Jirisys ()

Double A
05-05-2011, 22:57
Peace on the Adriatic

Maximus Decimus Meridius announces Rome and Illyria have come to a peace agreement. The Illyrian king is being returned to his people. In addition, all piracy on the Adriatic Sea will cease.

Glory to Rome!

The Celtic Viking
05-05-2011, 23:41
Not the ones he owns. So that pretty much makes you an agressive and paranoid fellow; I have not seen a barbarian resist the might of rome. If it is to continue, why would you be any different than the arverni?

Once again you betray the fact that you've too much love for the pipe, for you speak of wild dreams and hallucinations as if they were reality. Go back to your boyfriend, woman, and save us this nonsense.

Double A
05-05-2011, 23:43
Emphasis on "boy."

Jolt
05-05-2011, 23:48
Can you please explain this, since it doesn't show up on the original post? (i.e., how does adding a province make you lose gold income? and how does it make you lose wood income as well? intuitively more land means either some gain or no gain, but not loss, right?)

Every landlocked country started with +30 Wood and usually +20 Gold instead of the usual +10 on both to as bonus since those countries could not get navy. Nations with more wood could more quickly build up a navy if they wanted, when they conquered a coastal province.
When a landlocked nation conquered a coastal province (Arveni, Celtiberi and Armenia), then they'd lose their base resource gain would fall from +30 Wood and +20 Gold to +10 on both.

Since you had +30 Wood and +20 Gold before you gained a coastal province, you had conquered a Gold province, so the lowering to base +10 Gold still happened, but now the other +10 Gold the fulfilled by Trabizond province. I did maintain the Gold bonus on Celtiberi since Iberia was vastly wealthy in Gold, and the Arveni to better cope with a Roman menace.

Your proposal for a excel spreadsheet is pretty good. :D

johnhughthom
05-05-2011, 23:52
My goodness, you do talk an awful lot out west. That's about all you do.

Double A
05-05-2011, 23:55
That's not true! Rome has elections! That's doing something!

The Celtic Viking
05-06-2011, 00:17
We've also built up a supply of cupcakes large enough to last us through any siege you easterners could put us through, when you're not busy fighting each other over whose chariot is most ridiculously adorned. We envy you not.

Beefy187
05-06-2011, 00:46
Sigh... Why can't we live in peace?

Ey Syracuse?
Ey Numidia? :curtain:

B-Wing
05-06-2011, 01:06
Peace on the Adriatic

Maximus Decimus Meridius announces Rome and Illyria have come to a peace agreement. The Illyrian king is being returned to his people. In addition, all piracy on the Adriatic Sea will cease.

Well that's good news for the Illyrians. If their land had continued to be polluted by the corpses of Rome's legions, it would have become a downright awful place to live. I congratulate the culturally advanced Romans for their environmental awareness!

[can you tell I don't like the Romans?]



I'm glad to inhabit the exciting, volatile side of the world, east of Rome, where nations don't just sit around holding hands and baking cupcakes.


We've also built up a supply of cupcakes large enough to last us through any siege you easterners could put us through,

I knew it!

Say, what are the decadent Seleucids up to these days? You may have noticed that I didn't attack you this turn, King johnhughthom. Of course, two other nations next to me did, but you handled them pretty well. How are things in the world's largest empire these days?

vartan
05-06-2011, 01:33
Your proposal for a excel spreadsheet is pretty good. :D
So are you going to use it or what?

Double A
05-06-2011, 01:38
Well that's good news for the Illyrians. If their land had continued to be polluted by the corpses of Rome's legions, it would have become a downright awful place to live. I congratulate the culturally advanced Romans for their environmental awareness!

[can you tell I don't like the Romans?]

Care to back up your braying with an actual threat? Half of Rome's legions could send you to hell, but you seem to already be there.

B-Wing
05-06-2011, 01:53
Yes, I'll offer a threat. Should the borders of my burgeoning empire ever come to lie next to yours (which will likely have not changed by then) then I will indeed invade your lands. But until then, I have no real interest in your part of the world. And furthermore, I lack access to the Mediterranean... which makes any talk of invasion rather unqualified at this point.

Double A
05-06-2011, 01:57
You obviously do not know the might of Rome, you bumbling tribe. You wouldn't know civilization if it hit you in the face with a bronze glove. And it will.

ooc: You started it, that means I get to insult you back! This is ever so much fun!

Jolt
05-06-2011, 03:05
You obviously do not know the might of Rome, you bumbling tribe. You wouldn't know civilization if it hit you in the face with a bronze glove. And it will.

ooc: You started it, that means I get to insult you back! This is ever so much fun!

Quoting an Indian friend of mine on Indian civilization as opposed to uber advanced Europeans/Greeks/Romans, etc.

"India already had civilization while you were still mopping up in caves."

I always found this quote very funny and true.

Double A
05-06-2011, 03:10
Wait, he's India?

Gah. Someone needs to label every country on a map so I stop confusing everything.

jirisys
05-06-2011, 03:33
Peace on the Adriatic

Maximus Decimus Meridius announces Rome and Illyria have come to a peace agreement. The Illyrian king is being returned to his people. In addition, all piracy on the Adriatic Sea will cease.

Glory to Rome!

It seems as the romans cannot be trusted, they proclaimed peace before the invasion, they will proclaim it before the next one.


Once again you betray the fact that you've too much love for the pipe, for you speak of wild dreams and hallucinations as if they were reality. Go back to your boyfriend, woman, and save us this nonsense.

You hate the Boii smartypants, they are an enemy tribe, and Cappadocia's angry response was lunatic. I remind you that homosexuality was not uncommon in the west; at least we don't have an army full of people comparing themselves to their peers in matters of growth.


Care to back up your braying with an actual threat? Half of Rome's legions could send you to hell, but you seem to already be there.

What are these but threats from an empire who sent thousands to die shamefully in the fields of illyria? Your soldiers are pathetic, cannot defeat a small kingdom. Cannot defeat anything.

I also would like to warn Cappadocia and Pergamon, As their emmisary said:

Surrender Rhodos or yo momma got royally spanked.

We, the cappadoceia-pergamon alliance, want to buy Rhodos. Just name your price and we'll pay in peace. But if you refuse our peaceful offer, prepare to be royally spanked

I am afraid our allies of Hayastan and Kimmerikou Bosphorou won't be happy with you bullying us. I will see to it that if your continue with aggresions when you buy the island; you will have your tongue slit. With a wooden stick.


You obviously do not know the might of Rome, you bumbling tribe. You wouldn't know civilization if it hit you in the face with a bronze glove. And it will.

ooc: You started it, that means I get to insult you back! This is ever so much fun!

The teachings of the Buddha and the laws of Ashoka are respected here in hellas. I doubt our differences will stand even as we unite to stop your puny soldiers.

That being said, I would propose an alliance with the Maghada Empire, and the Meroe kingdom.

~Jirisys ()

Double A
05-06-2011, 03:49
Rome is tired of your ****. You do nothing but insult and complain. If the Helenic League makes any further such messages, the Consuls and Senate will consider it as a hostile action.

Furthermore, Rome offers an alliance to Macedonia against the Helens.

jirisys
05-06-2011, 03:49
Rome is tired of your ****. You do nothing but insult and complain. If the Helenic League makes any further such messages, the Consuls and Senate will consider it as a hostile action.

Furthermore, Rome offers an alliance to Macedonia against the Helens.

You do nothing but insult and complain. We just call you back and you get angry cause we show you how annoying you are.

Can't ally with Macedonia, It's an NPC. Dummy.

~Jirisys ()

Double A
05-06-2011, 03:50
I'm pretty sure there will be an exception, seeing as they hate your stupid guts due to the recent succession crisis. They friggin rebelled so they could get out of your nation, that's saying something, and it's definitely not along the lines of "Helenic Greece is best Greece."

This offer is also extended to the Thessalian League.

jirisys
05-06-2011, 03:51
I'm pretty sure there will be an exception, seeing as they hate your stupid guts due to the recent succession crisis.

This offer is also extended to the Thessalian League.

NPC too. Not possible.

~Jirisys ()

Double A
05-06-2011, 03:53
succession crisis

Greece has failed Rome's literacy test. What a surprise.

jirisys
05-06-2011, 03:56
Greece has failed Rome's literacy test. What a surprise.

Huh? Are you by any chance insulting Jolt's spelling? I never said such a thing in any of my posts. And it's written correctly in his posts (IIRC)

~Jirisys ()

Double A
05-06-2011, 03:57
~:grouphug:

B-Wing
05-06-2011, 03:59
Jirisys lives in El Salvador. Jolt lives in Portugal. If he's a native, his English is very good.

EDIT: Also, according to Wikipedia, Maghada is in eastern India. :) I assume you were referring to my empire?

jirisys
05-06-2011, 04:00
No, I'm insulting your inability to read.



Oh lookie here.

Ummm... He said he will control of the NPC, and that: "They will have no relation with with any other nation (NPC or PC), beyond attacking others if *I* percieve the other nations are weak (Losing wars, having succession crisis, suffering heavy losses in raids)".

No relations, no alliance.

They can still attack me, but I'm much more stronger.

And I still don't get the point you want to make.

Also; why is it relevant where I live?

~Jirisys ()

B-Wing
05-06-2011, 04:06
I originally thought Double_A was making fun of you for misspelling "succession". I assumed English was not your first language, since you live in El Salvador, so I thought it was worth mentioning. I see he wasn't referring to a spelling mistake, though, so it's all irrelevant now.

jirisys
05-06-2011, 04:07
I originally thought Double_A was making fun of you for misspelling "succession". I assumed English was not your first language, since you live in El Salvador, so I thought it was worth mentioning. I see he wasn't referring to a spelling mistake, though, so it's all irrelevant now.

I still don't understand what his point was, or wether he actually understand what Jolt said.

He's roman, he's irrelevant. :tongue:

~Jirisys ()

Double A
05-06-2011, 04:10
You're Greek, in 2000 years when someone opens a dictionary and looks irrelevant up, there will be a picture of you.


I originally thought Double_A was making fun of you for misspelling "succession". I assumed English was not your first language, since you live in El Salvador, so I thought it was worth mentioning. I see he wasn't referring to a spelling mistake, though, so it's all irrelevant now.

I wasn't making fun of him for mispelling succession (in fact, I didn't even notice it). However, I will make fun of you for adding an underscore to "Double A."

"B Ray is a meaniepants!"

There. I hope you learned your lesson.

jirisys
05-06-2011, 05:04
You're Greek, in 2000 years when someone opens a dictionary and looks irrelevant up, there will be a picture of you.

At least we will be the defenders of freedom. And you the civil war and red shield guys.

~Jirisys ()

vartan
05-06-2011, 05:24
Armenia is shocked to discover that the alliance of Pergamum and Cappadocia threatened an international power such as the Hellenic League with regard to Rhodes. The King of Armenia condemns such unacceptable behavior and calls on all honorable leaders to do the same. Shame on you two powers. Pergamum, you are supposedly in an alliance with Greece? So much for an alliance! If anything happens to Rhodes, be assured that the Greco-Bosphoro-Armenian alliance will smite you to the ground so hard, you will never rise again. Consider yourself warned.

Rahwana
05-06-2011, 06:20
Armenia is shocked to discover that the alliance of Pergamum and Cappadocia threatened an international power such as the Hellenic League with regard to Rhodes. The King of Armenia condemns such unacceptable behavior and calls on all honorable leaders to do the same. Shame on you two powers. Pergamum, you are supposedly in an alliance with Greece? So much for an alliance! If anything happens to Rhodes, be assured that the Greco-Bosphoro-Armenian alliance will smite you to the ground so hard, you will never rise again. Consider yourself warned.

Rhodos what? Hey, calm down, we at Pergamon are fellow hellas too, and won't attack my fellow Hellenes unless threatened first, but yeah... my ally is an Eastern Despot, but mind you, just before the Makedonia seceed from the KH, those evil Spartans forced me to invade my trustful ally on Cappadoceia or they'll mount an invasion to Pergamon. I never intend to invade Rhodos, but if the Hellenic League stays doing insults, we'll act to give them some royal arse spankings.

Well, and both Armenia and Cappadoceia is eastern despots don't you both? Enlightned Despots :clown:

and oh, we back the Righteous SPQR! Ave Romanus :ave:

A_Dane
05-06-2011, 06:22
Seconded. The pesky Getae will probably end up killing themselves anyways, so the might of the bosporan navy is ever so ready to strike.

Rahwana
05-06-2011, 06:36
so, I think this will become World wars... all because some stupid Hellenes try to make me backstab my all at Cappadoceia. Fine, I declare our previous alliance with Bosophoran and Armenian null and void, and officially allign Pergamon with Getae and SPQR. If you want war, FINE!

jirisys
05-06-2011, 07:04
so, I think this will become World wars... all because some stupid Hellenes try to make me backstab my all at Cappadoceia. Fine, I declare our previous alliance with Bosophoran and Armenian null and void, and officially allign Pergamon with Getae and SPQR. If you want war, FINE!

I never asked you to attack Cappadocia :inquisitive:

I said Halikarnassos, and this turn; if I wasn't in a civil war.

The cappadocian fool pretended to threaten me with invasion if I wasn't going to sell Rhodos, he said you would assist him.

If matters can be resolved with diplomacy, then they should. Let's pray it doesn't come to blows.

~Jirisys ()

vartan
05-06-2011, 07:43
so, I think this will become World wars... all because some stupid Hellenes try to make me backstab my all at Cappadoceia. Fine, I declare our previous alliance with Bosophoran and Armenian null and void, and officially allign Pergamon with Getae and SPQR. If you want war, FINE!
Just to make things clear for other players, I'm not sure about Bosphorous, but Armenia was never allied to Pergamum. The lies just keep spilling out of Pergamum's mouth. Disgusting.

GeneralHankerchief
05-06-2011, 07:51
Be nice, people.

jirisys
05-06-2011, 07:52
Be nice, people.

IC stuff :grin:

Though Double A is getting increasingly OOC shtuff.

~Jirisys ()

TheLastDays
05-06-2011, 08:30
OOCly I just want to make sure, so that no one misudnerstands anything, I have nothing in the least against A_Dane for example, anything I said, or will say towards other nations in this thread is purely IC, hope that clears that up... and now, since we are all on the same page:



If matters can be resolved with diplomacy, then they should. Let's pray it doesn't come to blows.


We, the Getae, are all for blows so don't worry about some bosphoran intervention in that war, we'll take good care of them.
We also want to officially announce that we hate Greeks, at least those hellenic ones and those who think they can export their sissy culture to northern tribal lands.

A_Dane
05-06-2011, 08:32
I hope everyone understands, that I'm just roleplaying (so yeah, basically the same as TheLastDays). anyways, I was alligned with Pergamon, but recent events taken into consideration they have failed.

EDIT: missed something: since the despicable people of Pergamon has alligned themselves with the Getae, they can expect no mercy whatsoever once the immediate threat has been dealt with. As of now, the Bosporan king is willing to let the cappadocians get off the hook, provided they break all connections with the People of Pergamon & Getae, and join in the utter destruction of the 2 people.

Ibn-Khaldun
05-06-2011, 08:57
You do nothing but insult and complain. We just call you back and you get angry cause we show you how annoying you are.

Can't ally with Macedonia, It's an NPC. Dummy.

~Jirisys ()

Not anymore.. ~;)

The Celtic Viking
05-06-2011, 11:34
You hate the Boii smartypants, they are an enemy tribe

I've known you Greeks suffer from a bad case of hubris all along, but don't try to tell me what I think about other people. The Boii are in every aspect superior to you.


at least we don't have an army full of people comparing themselves to their peers in matters of growth.~Jirisys ()

That's because you're cowards and you know you'd stand no chance.

In the light of all that's happening, I propose an alliance with the Makedonians.

Jolt
05-06-2011, 12:00
Not anymore.. ~;)

So LocalGod/Ibn-Khaldun is back as Macedonia. :P May he have a bit more luck then next time. :P

Double A
05-06-2011, 12:21
Armenia is shocked to discover that the alliance of Pergamum and Cappadocia threatened an international power such as the Hellenic League with regard to Rhodes. The King of Armenia condemns such unacceptable behavior and calls on all honorable leaders to do the same. Shame on you two powers. Pergamum, you are supposedly in an alliance with Greece? So much for an alliance! If anything happens to Rhodes, be assured that the Greco-Bosphoro-Armenian alliance will smite you to the ground so hard, you will never rise again. Consider yourself warned.

Since when was the Hellenic League an international power? Even they don't claim that. No one north of Greece and east of Rome even cares about their existence.

Anyway, who died and made Armenia the scales of balance?


IC stuff :grin:

Though Double A is getting increasingly OOC shtuff.

~Jirisys ()

Not my insults, I'm keeping my fights in the game.


Not anymore.. ~;)

<3

Jolt
05-06-2011, 12:39
Also, this shall be Rahwana's last turn as Pergamum, afterwards he must unfortunately resign due to being busy with work.

Rahwana
05-06-2011, 13:00
and I've incite a world war for all of ya! goodbye! (if you have my FB, read about my lastest work appointments in the note... yes... I'm talking with you Jiri)

Beskar
05-06-2011, 13:56
Magna Germania will still rise from the woods and be a force that will do peaceful co-operation with its neighbours!

vartan
05-06-2011, 17:25
Anyway, who died and made Armenia the scales of balance?
:book: history did

See you in a couple of centuries.

johnhughthom
05-06-2011, 17:28
Say, what are the decadent Seleucids up to these days? You may have noticed that I didn't attack you this turn, King johnhughthom. Of course, two other nations next to me did, but you handled them pretty well. How are things in the world's largest empire these days?

I'm just trying to work out why this gold toothbrush is making my teeth worse, surely making things out of gold is always better? First I get all four hundred and fifty six wives complaining about my gold condoms and now this. Anyway, just eating my breakfast off the back of a naked virgin (the wives don't like that either for some reason), my advisors are saying I should stop eating unicorn burgers everyday or they'll go extinct, silly men. What are cupcakes anyway? Cakes are pointless unless it takes a couple of camels to carry it to my table, cakes that fit in a cup? Barbaric. I killed a slave yesterday and forgot to replace him, I had to walk four feet from my litter into the bath, disgraceful. I suppose I could have asked some of the twelve naked virgins waiting to bathe me to carry me. I didn't want to tire them out however.

Oh, what was your question? Decadent? Proposterous, my life is no more pampered than anybody elses.

jirisys
05-06-2011, 19:03
Not anymore.. ~;)

Good luck :bow: May we see in Hades.

~Jirisys ()

Double A
05-06-2011, 21:02
:book: history did

See you in a couple of centuries.

Be sure to say hi to my tomb explorers.

Jolt
05-07-2011, 06:02
I'm just trying to work out why this gold toothbrush is making my teeth worse, surely making things out of gold is always better? First I get all four hundred and fifty six wives complaining about my gold condoms and now this. Anyway, just eating my breakfast off the back of a naked virgin (the wives don't like that either for some reason), my advisors are saying I should stop eating unicorn burgers everyday or they'll go extinct, silly men. What are cupcakes anyway? Cakes are pointless unless it takes a couple of camels to carry it to my table, cakes that fit in a cup? Barbaric. I killed a slave yesterday and forgot to replace him, I had to walk four feet from my litter into the bath, disgraceful. I suppose I could have asked some of the twelve naked virgins waiting to bathe me to carry me. I didn't want to tire them out however.

Oh, what was your question? Decadent? Proposterous, my life is no more pampered than anybody elses.

Epic. :laugh4:

Ibn-Khaldun
05-07-2011, 06:13
Jolt - I would like to get my resources pm.

Also, Macedonia is looking for allies. Rome, are you interested?

Double A
05-07-2011, 06:31
I already offered one :wink:

TheLastDays
05-07-2011, 06:44
The Getae are interested in an alliance with any enemy of the Hellenic League/Bosphorus/Armenia/whoever else is in this little party of sissys

Double A
05-07-2011, 06:56
The Getae are interested in an alliance with any enemy of the Hellenic League/Bosphorus/Armenia/whoever else is in this little party of sissys

:curtain:

Ibn-Khaldun
05-07-2011, 08:23
I already offered one <img src="images/smilies/gc/gc-wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Gc Wink" smilieid="68" class="inlineimg" /><br />
<br />
In that case i accept it.

The Celtic Viking
05-07-2011, 12:48
If you're still looking for allies, the Arverni has also offered an alliance with the Makedonian king.

Ibn-Khaldun
05-07-2011, 13:49
If you're still looking for allies, the Arverni has also offered an alliance with the Makedonian king.

Some may call you "barbarians" but the king of Macedonia is calling you "friends".
Alliance accepted.

Cute Wolf
05-07-2011, 13:55
We, the Getae, are all for blows so don't worry about some bosphoran intervention in that war, we'll take good care of them.
We also want to officially announce that we hate Greeks, at least those hellenic ones and those who think they can export their sissy culture to northern tribal lands.

of course, The court of Cappadoceia are more than happy to declare an Alliance with the Getae. :wink:

A_Dane
05-07-2011, 13:58
the cappadocians have hereby chosen to be completely and utterly annihilated, so be it.

Blxz
05-07-2011, 16:25
Baktria would firstly like to offer its humble apologies for attacking the Seleucid Empire. Apparently the orders to the general to "attack north" (into the unoccupied steppes) translated into "attack our largest neighbour who happens to be in a slightly northward position from us". Hopefully the death of the king is payment enough and no more hostilities will come of this.

OOC: I was a bit vague with my orders and it was my first turn. Not eager to start any wars with a human player for the time being; at least until I get my head around this game. Never played anything like this before. Be my friend =P ?

Baktria also extends an offer of a defensive alliance with Gandahara sealed by marriage of any of your sexy eligable indian ladies to the new young and dashing king of mighty baktria.

johnhughthom
05-07-2011, 16:48
Interesting diplomacy there Baktria, apologise for attacking me and then look for an alliance with the nation attacking me. :inquisitive:

Jolt
05-07-2011, 16:49
OOC: I was a bit vague with my orders and it was my first turn. Not eager to start any wars with a human player for the time being; at least until I get my head around this game. Never played anything like this before. Be my friend =P ?.

You did attack that free province North of Bactria that extends all the way to the Aral Sea.

Blxz
05-07-2011, 16:56
You did attack that free province North of Bactria that extends all the way to the Aral Sea.

In that case I guess I misread and didn't attack selekeia. Lucky.

Also, as for my diplomacy. Its mearly a defensive pact. I can't rely only on the good will of seleukeia that they won't attack me.

Double A
05-07-2011, 17:17
Um, they're already at war with the guy you're offering a defensive pact to.

Blxz
05-07-2011, 17:23
Um, they're already at war with the guy you're offering a defensive pact to.

Even more fun. But I want me some indian booty this turn. Who knows, maybe this could be the start of a make love not war policy for the far east.

B-Wing
05-07-2011, 17:52
Oh, I thought Bactria had attacked the Seleucids, too. :blush: I thought Sogdiane was their northeastern province, going off the Europa Barbarorum map. What is the name of that province?

And Gandhara accepts the Bactrian king's proposal. One of my daughters is worthy of a foreign king... which is to say, she annoys me to no end. I will be glad get rid of her if you'll take her. And as thanks, I will guarantee your independence. It does disappoint me that you don't intend on warring with the Seleucids, but that just means more fun for me, so no hard feelings.

vartan
05-07-2011, 17:54
of course, The court of Cappadoceia are more than happy to declare an Alliance with the Getae. :wink:
That was a big mistake.

the cappadocians have hereby chosen to be completely and utterly annihilated, so be it.
Couldn't have said it better.

TheLastDays
05-07-2011, 21:16
Alright, Cappadocia, just finish those pesky Armenians, we take care of the Bosphoran greeks and then we'll meet for a party on the doorstep of the Hellenic League. You bring the cupcakes food, we bring the dead Greeks and beer!

Ibn-Khaldun
05-07-2011, 21:28
Jolt - When is the deadline for orders?

Jolt
05-07-2011, 22:44
Jolt - When is the deadline for orders?

Tomorrow.

jirisys
05-07-2011, 23:41
Jirisys lives in El Salvador. Jolt lives in Portugal. If he's a native, his English is very good.

EDIT: Also, according to Wikipedia, Maghada is in eastern India. :) I assume you were referring to my empire?

Maurya Saamraajya according to my mod :tongue:

Yes, Maghada is the regions the mauryans rose from.

Also, all people who face me will die in a turn of magic!

Also, the Aetolian League are still my allies :tongue:

~Jirisys ()

johnhughthom
05-08-2011, 01:26
Decadent Basileus is very disappointed nation his predecessor defended for no other reason than friendship, at the cost of his life, has not sought alliance. Basileus feels sad.

Beefy187
05-08-2011, 02:54
Carthage will do something this turn :bow:

jirisys
05-08-2011, 02:59
Carthage will do something this turn :bow:

:sad:

~Jirisys ()

B-Wing
05-08-2011, 04:23
I'll believe it when I see it!

TheLastDays
05-08-2011, 05:58
Also, all people who face me will die in a turn of magic!

Also, the Aetolian League are still my allies :tongue:

~Jirisys ()


Also, you're full of :daisy: :tongue:

Cute Wolf
05-08-2011, 06:11
Alright, Cappadocia, just finish those pesky Armenians, we take care of the Bosphoran greeks and then we'll meet for a party on the doorstep of the Hellenic League. You bring the cupcakes food, we bring the dead Greeks and beer!

yupz.... :grin:
you go spank those Northren Hellenes with weird perfumes, and I'll take care of those Armenians.

well, I'll bring some Sauteed Greeks and Armenian kebabs for our party then!

Ibn-Khaldun
05-08-2011, 08:37
Decadent Basileus is very disappointed nation his predecessor defended for no other reason than friendship, at the cost of his life, has not sought alliance. Basileus feels sad.

We thought that this is obvious that we consider the Seleucids as our allies! However, to make things official: Macedonia proposes an alliance to the Magnificent Seleucid Empire!

Jolt
05-08-2011, 14:39
Three updates:

Aplis Pleuratos of Illyria is actually 20 years old instead of 10.
Plunder ability can only be done to your land neighbours. As such, you need to have a border with him in order to be able to attempt that action.


crysis7 apparently broke his arm and is unable to play. Consequentially, the Aetolian League shall revert back to NPC.

Stark
05-08-2011, 15:15
Um, Aplis was born in 260BC and he is 30 years old now. Prince Laiskos was born in 250BC and he is 20 years old now.

Also, is plunder that spy action where you steal gold or something new?

Jolt
05-08-2011, 16:36
Um, Aplis was born in 260BC and he is 30 years old now. Prince Laiskos was born in 250BC and he is 20 years old now.

Also, is plunder that spy action where you steal gold or something new?

And Pleuratos is actually 50 years old.

Yep, plunder is where you try to steal gold.

Stark
05-08-2011, 18:19
What will happen with Pergamon and Aetolian League now that they are NPCs? Will they continue their alliances or will they retreat into isolation?

So the war has started and has Rome&Macedonia&Getae&Cappadoceia&Pergamum(?) vs. Hellenic League&Cimmerian Bosphorus&Armenia&Aetolian League(?)? EPIC

Ibn-Khaldun
05-08-2011, 19:24
Pergamon and Aetolian League will retreat into isolation. As Jolt have said it before, you can't do diplomacy with a NPC country.

Also, I have no wish to start any wars or be part of any war at the moment.

A_Dane
05-08-2011, 19:47
Don't allign yourself with the Getae/attack my greek allies, and we won't have a problem :)

TheLastDays
05-08-2011, 19:57
As if the Bosphorans ever were a problem...

A_Dane
05-08-2011, 20:03
You'll see dear, as such I'm a much bigger problem for your allies, than you are for mine :)

TheLastDays
05-08-2011, 20:42
:snore:

B-Wing
05-08-2011, 20:54
So the war has started and has Rome & Macedonia & Getae & Cappadoceia & Pergamum(?) vs. Hellenic League & Cimmerian Bosphorus & Armenia & Aetolian League(?)? EPIC

So where does the Illyrian Confederation and the Seleucid Empire stand in all this?

johnhughthom
05-08-2011, 21:03
I'm kinda out east of the main action, Illyria is in the middle of it.


:clown:

B-Wing
05-08-2011, 21:10
*slaps forehead*

Decadent emporer humor...

Stark
05-08-2011, 22:04
Illyria stands completely neutral.

vartan
05-09-2011, 02:28
crysis7 apparently broke his arm and is unable to play. Consequentially, the Aetolian League shall revert back to NPC.
Aw schucks. Get well soon crysis7.

Cute Wolf
05-09-2011, 11:44
crysis7 apparently broke his arm and is unable to play. Consequentially, the Aetolian League shall revert back to NPC.

hope he get well soon!
well, with Aetolian league and Pergamon revert back to NPC... this meant they'll be sitting duck or it's their ally's task to protecting them?... hmm, let's ask if some patrons from regular EB forum willing to help with them.

Let's ask Ludens if he has any time to spare! :idea:

Stark
05-09-2011, 12:34
They are far from sitting ducks, they still have their complete army and can stay on defensive. Besides, everyone around them is at war, it isn't very probable that someone will waste strenght on them when they probably won't attack them.

It would be nice if Jolt took their previous alliances into consideration when giving orders to new NPSs, so that Pergamum doesn't attack Cappadociea or Aetolian League Hellenic League.

The Celtic Viking
05-09-2011, 16:34
hope he [crysis7] get well soon!

Seconded. Hoping he will is so much better than ordering him to anyway, like some others would do. Much less pressure for him to deliver. :rolleyes:

johnhughthom
05-09-2011, 16:52
Decadent Basileus is confused as to why a broken arm stops somebody from playing an online forum game. Surely he has two arms, and his injury means he would be spending more time at home so such a game would fill the time. Even if he only has one arm, surely he can spare a naked virgin to type for him?

TheLastDays
05-09-2011, 17:23
Well... since Jolt always stated, that alliances are just "on paper" I guess if the Aetolian League or Pergamon perceive one of their neighbours as weak they'll attack, regardless of who that is...

jirisys
05-09-2011, 18:43
Seconded. Hoping he will is so much better than ordering him to anyway, like some others would do. Much less pressure for him to deliver. :rolleyes:

Huh?


Decadent Basileus is confused as to why a broken arm stops somebody from playing an online forum game. Surely he has two arms, and his injury means he would be spending more time at home so such a game would fill the time. Even if he only has one arm, surely he can spare a naked virgin to type for him?

Sadly no, he can't use his right arm so he gets tired. And he can't order virgins cause he used to do so with his right arm.


Well... since Jolt always stated, that alliances are just "on paper" I guess if the Aetolian League or Pergamon perceive one of their neighbours as weak they'll attack, regardless of who that is...

Yes. Though I doubt it.

~Jirisys ()

The Celtic Viking
05-09-2011, 21:47
Huh?

I was bored, felt that just seconding or wishing him well was too short, so I added a tastefully dry joke. I like doing that, it confuses the prey before I move in to strike.

Double A
05-09-2011, 22:13
I thought it was funny.

jirisys
05-09-2011, 23:11
I thought it was funny.

:applause:

~Jirisys ()

Blxz
05-10-2011, 03:44
:applause:

~Jirisys ()

Mocking applause or accepting applause?

Double A
05-10-2011, 03:45
I'm fine with either.

jirisys
05-10-2011, 03:46
Mocking applause or accepting applause?

~Jirisys ()

Cute Wolf
05-10-2011, 05:38
well, how about the wars soon to be? don't tell me that everyone suddenly grow peaceful and choose to sit down grooming cats, except Carthage :clown:

TheLastDays
05-10-2011, 07:05
Surely not, the Bosphorans must die!

Cute Wolf
05-10-2011, 08:36
good, every Greeks who doesn't know their place should die!

The Celtic Viking
05-10-2011, 08:39
I thought it was funny.

Then that means you were not my prey. That's very good news for you. ~;p

Cute Wolf
05-10-2011, 09:21
Then that means you were not my prey. That's very good news for you. ~;p

umm... did Arvernii still looking for Allies?
why not promote peace with the noble Romans and joining our cause?

vartan
05-10-2011, 09:34
umm... did Arvernii still looking for Allies?
why not promote peace with the noble Romans and joining our cause?
Your cause is a nonexistent one. Go get some sleep old one. Your dementia is going to be the end of you.

Cute Wolf
05-10-2011, 10:14
well, we'll see when those Koinon Hellenon and Aetolikon cry because they are nosy, unfriendly neighbours who deserve some Spankings.

Those at Bosporan also deserve some repatriation to their homeland... in hell

The Celtic Viking
05-10-2011, 11:48
You, with the funny accent... you're a Cappadokian, aren't you? Tell me: what is your cause, and how does it concern me?

A_Dane
05-10-2011, 13:57
well, we'll see when those Koinon Hellenon and Aetolikon cry because they are nosy, unfriendly neighbours who deserve some Spankings.

Those at Bosporan also deserve some repatriation to their homeland... in hell

Our cause is just, but even your gods must surely punish oathbreakers, so dine well in hell.. or well be dined upon is probably more correct..

jirisys
05-10-2011, 17:03
You, with the funny accent... you're a Cappadokian, aren't you? Tell me: what is your cause, and how does it concern me?

Isn't he descendent of Brennus' invading force?

Also; good job on Thermopylai.

~Jirisys ()

The Celtic Viking
05-10-2011, 17:34
Isn't he descendent of Brennus' invading force?

Nope.


Also; good job on Thermopylai.

Of course.

TheLastDays
05-10-2011, 17:55
Our Gods usually punish those that oppose us... quite nice you know...

jirisys
05-10-2011, 19:01
Our Gods usually punish those that oppose us... quite nice you know...

Then we better leave it to our gods to battle in our name.

~Jirisys ()

B-Wing
05-10-2011, 19:27
So, any chance of us getting a new turn report today?

vartan
05-10-2011, 20:36
So, any chance of us getting a new turn report today?
I was thinking the same thing.

OT: PM me. I'm a big fan of your current 'Location' ;)

Jolt
05-10-2011, 21:19
So, any chance of us getting a new turn report today?

Nope. Not today. I have to work on an essay plus write dozens of dedications on ribbons (An academic tradition here in Portugal) for my friends who are finishing college.

Also, as I'm coming to the final college sprint, the dead line on a bunch of essays, plus starting to study for the final college year's exams means this test game is only a few turn away from finishing.

Stark
05-10-2011, 22:28
You mean you won't be able to host it anymore?

Double A
05-10-2011, 22:54
I think he means he won't be able to host properly until he finishes his exams.

Stark
05-10-2011, 23:40
Are you sure? It seems to me that either this game is finished completely, or only test game is over and the real thing will start when he finishes his exams. Let's hope it's the latter.

B-Wing
05-11-2011, 01:05
Well, Jolt's opening post did say that this was basically a test (and the "Version 1" part of the title indicates that as well), but it would be cool if we could continue this one until a set date. Regardless, I look forward to future versions of the game. :) I've been daydreaming about the idea of hosting a modified version myself in the future, since my free time is pretty plentiful. Unfortunately, I couldn't make write-ups that would be nearly as entertaining or realistic as Jolt's. :( And it really does make it so much more satisfying to get a detailed write-up as opposed to just seeing numbers or whatnot.

johnhughthom
05-11-2011, 01:12
I've been planning a game somewhat similar, more of a mix of this and my Cops & Robbers game, for a while. The GAH (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129450-Large-mafia-game-Crusader-Kings-Mafia) thread for anybody that's interested. Cops & Robbers was sort of a test run to see if it would work, I wasn't able to get the numbers that I would need to make Crusader Kings viable however. I may revisit it after C&R is finished, if I remember correctly our fine host was one of the interested parties, too few to give it a try though.

jirisys
05-11-2011, 01:57
Yay! Hellenic league will remain alive forever! :D

~Jirisys ()

Jolt
05-11-2011, 01:57
Yeap, it means that version I is coming to an end. It was pretty successful from my point of view, in relation to maintaining a balanced game. This game is basically a copycat of an equal game from Paradox OT (With the addition of barbarian nations). Only that I made my mechanics from scratch. It was good to see Rome not overpowering everyone, contrary to the games I copied from. And mostly to see everyone fighting on very similar armies. And even if they weren't similar armies, the smaller army still had a reasonable chance of victory. Events were also pretty good except the unlucky ones.

Also, by all means do use any and all information you want and adapt to your games.

Maybe Version II might come in the Summer. :P

Nevertheless, I would feel bad about ending this game without Beskar conquering a province.

Double A
05-11-2011, 02:57
Poor Beskie :sad:

vartan
05-11-2011, 03:10
Thanks Jolt.

Beskar
05-11-2011, 03:21
Nevertheless, I would feel bad about ending this game without Beskar conquering a province.

I failed again...?

How?!?! You said "50 Infantry is enough for a good chance (~60-80%+)" and my last attack was 80 infantry and 40 calvery. Nevermind the masses of units I used against them in 3 previous attacks. :tongue:

B-Wing
05-11-2011, 03:28
LOL Beskar, bad luck follows you like a loyal hound.

Jolt, I was wondering, in determining the outcome of a battle, would you use one dice roll (random number generation) to determine the winner, or did you break the battle down into multiple phases (as in Crusader Kings) and roll for each of those?

Jolt
05-11-2011, 03:50
I failed again...?

Nope, I didn't say that. :P

I haven't rolled battles yet. If I remember your invading army, you have a pretty good chance of winning.

Jolt
05-11-2011, 03:54
LOL Beskar, bad luck follows you like a loyal hound.

Jolt, I was wondering, in determining the outcome of a battle, would you use one dice roll (random number generation) to determine the winner, or did you break the battle down into multiple phases (as in Crusader Kings) and roll for each of those?

It is a single phase (Rolled 3 times when a battle between nations.). After it I roll for losses, then roll for General survival (Success chance is arbitrarily made by me, based on General's skill and total losses in relation with invading army).

B-Wing
05-11-2011, 04:16
OK, cool, just curious!

Stark
05-11-2011, 08:16
What will be the differences between version I and II?

Jolt
05-11-2011, 11:07
What will be the differences between version I and II?

I don't know yet. It's the same as asking Valve what will be different from Half-Life 2 & 3 before they even finish 2. :P

Stark
05-11-2011, 11:08
Well, you probably have some ideas?

TheLastDays
05-11-2011, 15:57
And just like Valve he probably won't tell you ;)

Jolt
05-11-2011, 16:58
Well, you probably have some ideas?

I'll certainly refine the mechanics. Most probably add more events to the event list and make them more common. It's the events that make a game stop being a game run on mechanics and gives some taste and flavor, and opportunity for me to do some good write-ups.

Something you can rule out is this game becoming in any way more complex. This game is pretty simple and even then it already takes me a lot of time to do the turn transitions. I'm also thinking of maybe doing a more complex game, but on a smaller scale (Like for example the RTW tutorial scenario, which only comprises the Italian peninsula.)

The most promising idea I had would be phreaps doing this game in a whole different set (For those that remember my Mafia game "The Red Phoenix", like Beskar), I was thinking of doing a similar game in the Chinese Three Kingdoms era (As I'm a scholarly expert on that era). That way instead of 10 years, each turn would be equal to 1 or 2 years, players could recruit Generals and Strategists who would later be used in invading other players territories (Using KOEI's stats like "Lead+War+Int+Cha/4" to calculate each's officer's skill). Invasions and province defences could be done with multiple generals (Defence still probably using the whole army) and we'd have duels and cunning plans by the strategists to overcome superior enemy odds (e.g. Events). But still obviously simplified.

If I were to do something like that, we'd have Mil values for known people like:

Cao Cao - 10
Sima Yi - 11
Jia Xu - 10
Xiahou Dun - 8
Dian Wei - 7
Man Chong - 7
Liu Bei - 8
Zhuge Liang - 11
Pang Tong - 9
Guan Yu - 9
Zhang Fei - 8
Sun Jian - 10
Sun Ce - 10
Sun Quan - 8
Yuan Shao - 7
Lu Bu - 7
Dong Zhuo - 7

Due to the simplification, it would happen that veteran warriors like Lu Bu or Sun Ce, would most probably lose duels to frail geniuses like Sima Yi or Zhuge Liang.

So yeah, some ideas, I do have. :P

Blxz
05-11-2011, 19:39
Finishing already? I only joined a turn ago. What a waste.

TheLastDays
05-11-2011, 20:33
Wow your future ideas sounds really good, if you do a three kingdoms one count me in ;)

Allthough maybe if what you refer to as "Duels" really means two guys duking it out in melee (or with ranged weapons, whatever, in physical fight that's what I mean) there should probably be a second stat... so that warriors like Lu Bu would be fearsome duelists but not that great in strategy...

Stark
05-12-2011, 08:17
I completely agree that no further complexity is needeed, this works just fine. If anything I would like to somehow speed up the turns, not slow them down.

Cute Wolf
05-12-2011, 18:31
well, too bad, I not exterminate Rhodos yet!

Stark
05-12-2011, 18:42
Well it isn't over yet, Jolt said that it will end after a couple more turns.

jirisys
05-12-2011, 19:57
well, too bad, I not exterminate Rhodos yet!

What was your army anyway? :inquisitive:

IF it were less than 300, you would have died.

~Jirisys ()

Cute Wolf
05-12-2011, 20:06
If sonic also sent his order before leaving, it's more than capable to crush you :D
BTW, let's hope in the future, there will be a nice game again like this :D

jirisys
05-12-2011, 21:18
If sonic also sent his order before leaving, it's more than capable to crush you :D
BTW, let's hope in the future, there will be a nice game again like this :D

Not really, your navy would have been halfed; as would your army (because of my navy); my army would have split yours in a second.

Also, since I had 3 defense level, more eastern death.

~Jirisys ()

Double A
05-12-2011, 23:45
Not really, your navy would have been halfed; as would your army (because of my navy); my army would have split yours in a second.

Also, since I had 3 defense level, more eastern death.

~Jirisys ()

>implying his navy is bigger

jirisys
05-12-2011, 23:48
>implying his navy is bigger

Defending with 3/5 defense level, Considerably big navy is mine. I would bet they would have lost half their navy.

~Jirisys ()

Double A
05-13-2011, 00:22
Yes, because defenses built into the land work so well in assisting fleets.

jirisys
05-13-2011, 01:42
Yes, because defenses built into the land work so well in assisting fleets.

Have you played Portal 2? Maybe some of Weatley's intelligence has transferred onto you.

I fail to see how one would disembark an army of 200 200 pound soldiers without being near land.

~Jirisys ()

Double A
05-13-2011, 02:20
Because every admiral knows that the best time to disembark is in the middle of a freaking naval battle.

B-Wing
05-13-2011, 02:24
One change I would consider is to make it so that, rather than factions producing ships each turn for owning a coastal province, certain provinces produce ships as their resource bonus. It bothers me that Rome gets to automatically produce 20 ships per turn just because they're Rome (as if generating 50 infantry per turn wasn't good enough). Illyria's ship bonus seems appropriate to me, since they're severely disadvantaged in other ways, and were famed for piracy. Just my two cents.

Double A
05-13-2011, 02:29
Well, everyone did seem to hate me, so yeah, I think it was appropriate. Plus Rome's navy historically did beat Carthage's (eventually).

B-Wing
05-13-2011, 02:48
Yet you were never attacked. :disappointed: No, Illyria's naval raids don't count because that happened while they were a NPC nation.

vartan
05-13-2011, 04:33
Seriously. B_Ray you make valid points.

Double A
05-13-2011, 04:56
AAAAH EVERYONE'S GANGING UP ON ME AGAIN

jirisys
05-13-2011, 04:57
Don't you seem to notice something annoying in the background? :inquisitive:

~Jirisys ()

Double A
05-13-2011, 04:59
Is that a serious question, or are you just messing with me again?

jirisys
05-13-2011, 05:01
There it goes again. Sounds so far I can't even hear it.

Hope that Jolt goes to make another Forum Game, with even more factions now :grin:.

~Jirisys ()

TheLastDays
05-13-2011, 07:43
Bla? ... Thought so ;)

EDIT: I never hated you, AA - I didn't really like you either but hate would go to far :P

Jolt
05-13-2011, 09:55
Btw guys, still no news on the Turn Change as I'm currently very busy with exams (Just did one yesterday on Portuguese Foreign Policy) and essays (One which I need to deliver today)

Blxz
05-13-2011, 11:00
Best of luck with those Jolt. Looking forward to the next turn. Or if you ever start a new game it would be good to be present form the beginning =)
Enjoy your portuguese stuff.

Double A
05-13-2011, 17:17
Bla? ... Thought so ;)

EDIT: I never hated you, AA - I didn't really like you either but hate would go to far :P

I know, I'm just being melodramatic.

Cute Wolf
05-13-2011, 20:10
well well, maybe next time we should put marriage alliances, and treaties as well?
or having M2TW-ish reputation system?

Double A
05-13-2011, 21:44
Alliances/treaties can be handled by players
Marriages weren't as big a deal in non-medieval times
M2 rep would be completely useless. When was the last time a PC payed attention to something that governed AI behavior?

Stark
05-13-2011, 22:38
I agree with Double A. All of these things can be handled and are better handled by players. Why force some imaginary boundary (like not being able to attack ally, or automatic war if ally is attacked) if in real life these things depended only on the will of participants. Free diplomatic interaction between players is the reason these kinds of games are fun.

johnhughthom
05-13-2011, 22:59
Hmmm, the more I read here, the more it appears my Crusader Kings (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?129450-Large-mafia-game-Crusader-Kings-Mafia&goto=newpost) idea would work better than Cops & Robbers has so far. I think I'll see how many sign ups I get for it after C&R finishes. If you haven't already check out the thread and let me know if you would be interested.

Blxz
05-17-2011, 14:02
3 days without a post here. Hope Jolt finishes his exams soon. I don't even need a full write up. Would be nice just to have a few turn changes without max detail for a little while. Just to keep things moving while he is busy. Otherwise its going to stall.

Jolt
05-17-2011, 16:15
3 days without a post here. Hope Jolt finishes his exams soon. I don't even need a full write up. Would be nice just to have a few turn changes without max detail for a little while. Just to keep things moving while he is busy. Otherwise its going to stall.

Sorry, I've been super busy. It's not so much about the exams (They are done for this month), it's more about me having to do three essays in the next two weeks.

vartan
05-17-2011, 16:18
Sorry, I've been super busy. It's not so much about the exams (They are done for this month), it's more about me having to do three essays in the next two weeks.
Forget the write-up; welcome to the club man. These couple of weeks feel like essay madness. I think it's the end of the world.

TheLastDays
05-26-2011, 20:08
*prods thread with a stick* Is it dead...?

Jolt
05-27-2011, 02:41
*Thread bites the stick in fury and munches it all up*

Nope, not dead. I've delivered my first paper yesterday on US Foreign Policy in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I gotta deliver a 15 page essay in 4 days about UN Statebuilding efforts and 30 page essay on Bahrain's modern colonization and decolonization, in 6 days. You can be 100% sure there won't be an update until then and not in the following days, as I'm probably gonna be so much brain drained that I won't want to have to work on something else which involves writing write-ups (Or making calculations, god.) which takes severals hours of my day. I'm already feeling the pressure (probably for the first time on my life that I'm feeling mental pressure) of meeting the deadlines, and the short time available to do all that produce quality academic works. Moderate-case scenario for next turn's being done: 9.6.2011

Maybe he less than that, may be even further than that. Depends on how burned out I'll be.
Wish me luck. ;)

Blxz
05-27-2011, 07:36
Whoa, thats some full on stuff. Few topics more enthralling than UN statebuilding. Have fun.

Stark
05-27-2011, 08:12
What college are you? Those are some beastly essays.

Ibn-Khaldun
05-27-2011, 08:27
Good luck!

Jolt
05-27-2011, 14:40
What college are you? Those are some beastly essays.

Best International Relations faculty in Portugal. Superior Institute of Social and Political Sciences - Technical University of Lisbon.

Stark
05-27-2011, 15:04
It's really called Superior Institute?

Does it mean something like higher level of education, or is it simply a boast?

vartan
05-27-2011, 15:11
It's really called Superior Institute?

Does it mean something like higher level of education, or is it simply a boast?
In Portugues it sounds more like 'higher institute' as in the degree of education...

Jolt
05-27-2011, 15:58
In Portugues it sounds more like 'higher institute' as in the degree of education...

Yeah. But since our language is ROMAN POWER, we like to name things Superior and Inferior

Blxz
06-09-2011, 13:28
Well, its the 9th here, yet no new posts. I'm tired of waiting and checking back here. My interest in this game has waned. Was fun for the turn I played.
Hope you get some good results for your assignments Jolt. I'd like to withdraw from this game, if a new one starts up some time in the future feel free to PM me and I'll come along again.

Until then, bye.

Jolt
06-09-2011, 15:26
Well, its the 9th here, yet no new posts. I'm tired of waiting and checking back here. My interest in this game has waned. Was fun for the turn I played.
Hope you get some good results for your assignments Jolt. I'd like to withdraw from this game, if a new one starts up some time in the future feel free to PM me and I'll come along again.

Until then, bye.

As I had said, it might have been longer or shorter than the 9th. I even had a defense of a previous essay two days ago (Got a 17 out of a maximum of 20 - that's like an A? in Anglo-Saxon grades, I guess), and just came back from an exam of System of the United Nations. Nevertheless I'm actually planning to start to do the turn today. I'm sorry it took as long as it did. Still thank you for your participation, and thank you for your good wishes. :)

Jolt
06-09-2011, 16:23
I wonder, do you guys prefer the public display of information for all countries as a spreadsheet like this: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AspgdrJqBnJBdEtkZ21udnBtXzRjbUFCUDh4ZVdsMWc&hl=en#gid=0 (Kudos to Vartan for that. I shall be using it. :P)
I shall then post it on google docs and you can click on it from the write-ups to go watch the spreadsheet

Or as a dropdown text menu like it has been so far?

Ibn-Khaldun
06-09-2011, 16:39
I would prefer spreadsheet.

vartan
06-09-2011, 17:40
I would prefer spreadsheet.
'Cos I'm boss of the boss with a capital B, you know!

j/k you flatter me Jolt! It's electrifying!

B-Wing
06-09-2011, 18:57
Or as a dropdown text menu like it has been so far?

I don't actually know what you're referring to here. Regardless, I'm excited to know an update is coming!

The Celtic Viking
06-10-2011, 00:46
I believe he refers to how he has shown regents, heirs, generals etc. here before. (See, Jolt, this is what happens when you take this time: people forget the very basics of the game, even when reminded of it at every update. ~;p) I too would like the spreadsheet.

By the way, if I have waited this long only to find out that my king has died and I have no heirs, I'm going to go bald. For the sake of all the women in the world (as well as every fashion-respecting male), I implore you to have mercy, to cheat the game if you need to, to do whatever you have to do - just make sure my line is still alive!

Double A
06-10-2011, 01:03
Spreadsheets are better conveyors of information.


As I had said, it might have been longer or shorter than the 9th. I even had a defense of a previous essay two days ago (Got a 17 out of a maximum of 20 - that's like an A? in Anglo-Saxon grades, I guess), and just came back from an exam of System of the United Nations. Nevertheless I'm actually planning to start to do the turn today. I'm sorry it took as long as it did. Still thank you for your participation, and thank you for your good wishes. :)

It's an 85, the lowest B possible.

Jolt
06-10-2011, 05:57
Spreadsheets it is!


It's an 85, the lowest B possible.

What?

If you have 20 it means it's 100%, translating into A+? (Which nobody ever gets)
19 is A (Which nobody also never gets)
18 is A-
17 is B+?

Zim
06-10-2011, 06:03
85 is a middling B at most American schools. Not sure how well it translates, though. I understand in some countries the grades given for percentages seem more generous, but only because the work is harder and they expect lower average results. Even here you get that in places that "curve" grades.

Double A
06-10-2011, 06:12
Most high schools have a 7-point scale. I think colleges use a 10-point scale, so if you're talking about that, you'd have a regular B, not a B-.

Zim
06-10-2011, 06:22
double post

Zim
06-10-2011, 06:23
What are the numbers on how many schools use 7 point scales? I went to a lot of schools (military family) across the country and hadn't encountered it, but I also graduated over 10 years ago (I suddenly feel old).

Double A
06-10-2011, 08:39
It came with the block schedule.

The guys who implemented both make retarded people look like geniuses.

Jolt
06-10-2011, 14:07
The fact is that you can't accurately translate

ABCDEF to a 20 point system.

For instance one of the professors I have is reknowned for having said: "20 is reserved for God, 19 is reserved for someone better than me. (Though he never recognized anyone as being better than him :P)" That's why 17 is one of the best grades you can get around here.

Anyway, turn comes out today or at the most, tommorow.

Stark
06-10-2011, 15:43
Will we get an update today? I don't want to push you into deadlines but it would be very nice if you could tell us if there is no chance for update today, so that I don't check this thread every few hours. For example, I don't expect something like - Update will be today at 9pm, more like - There won't be an update today, you don't have to wait for it.

Jolt
06-10-2011, 16:03
Will we get an update today? I don't want to push you into deadlines but it would be very nice if you could tell us if there is no chance for update today, so that I don't check this thread every few hours. For example, I don't expect something like - Update will be today at 9pm, more like - There won't be an update today, you don't have to wait for it.

Check in tomorrow then. :wink: Update won't come in the forthcoming hours (Gotta run around Lisbon.)

Stark
06-10-2011, 16:38
Thanks :)

Stark
06-13-2011, 08:07
This is starting to feel like waiting for Godot... Will this update ever come?

Double A
06-13-2011, 09:03
This is starting to feel like waiting for Godot... Will this update ever come?

I get it cuz I took theater.

Stark
06-29-2011, 08:04
Jolt what the hell is wrong with you? You host this game, say you're working on an update, then we wait for a month and you post apsolutely nothing. We're all patiently waiting, I thought you're having some personal problems or something similar, so you can't post at all. Then yesterday I check your profile and see that all that time you're active and playing some CK and Mafia forum games.

If you lost interest you could say something and not let us wait like that.

vartan
06-29-2011, 09:01
Calm down Ironman. It's just a game.

Stark
06-29-2011, 10:09
The point is not in the game, but in decent behaviour. I'm not mad because he abandoned the game, I'm mad because he hasn't said it. Just a simply statement that he lost interest would be enough.

vartan
06-29-2011, 20:10
Silence itself can be an answer at times.

*resumes silence*

B-Wing
06-29-2011, 23:59
Yeah, I assumed this one to be done with long ago.

Stark
06-30-2011, 12:54
I'm sorry I overreacted, Jolt was a great host, but just a simple notification would be enough and it wouldn't take more than a few minutes to post it. It's just some common decency.

vartan
06-30-2011, 16:14
I'm sorry I overreacted, Jolt was a great host, but just a simple notification would be enough and it wouldn't take more than a few minutes to post it. It's just some common decency.
Don't you mean, not-so-common decency? Haha. I enjoyed this while it lasted.

Double A
07-01-2011, 08:54
RAWR, I DEMANDS UPDATEZ

That was your post. But yes, a notification would have been nice.

(I'll be honest, I just wanted an excuse to say RAWR, and you just happened to give me an excellent excuse to do so)

Stark
07-01-2011, 15:11
I don't demand updates at all, I was just angry because Jolt just abandoned this without saying anything.
I periodically checked this for a month until I checked his profile and saw he was active all the time. If he simply said he was tired and won't host it anymore, no problem, we should be grateful he hosted it so far. But simply ignoring this after saying he started working on an update was a dick move.

A_Dane
07-01-2011, 17:43
Kinda agree, would of been nice with a notification, been checking in atleast 2-3 times per week for the last month as well, but oh well.

Anyways, I'll consider this dead then, was fun while it lasted.

Double A
07-01-2011, 22:37
I don't demand updates at all, I was just angry because Jolt just abandoned this without saying anything.
I periodically checked this for a month until I checked his profile and saw he was active all the time. If he simply said he was tired and won't host it anymore, no problem, we should be grateful he hosted it so far. But simply ignoring this after saying he started working on an update was a dick move.

I know you didn't demand anything, I just wanted to say RAWR, as I already explained.

Stark
07-01-2011, 22:44
I know you didn't demand anything, I just wanted to say RAWR, as I already explained.

I know, I just wanted to comfirm I wasn't demanding an update.

Double A
07-01-2011, 23:59
Okaaaay...

By the way everyone, Steam summer sale. S2 has a 40% discount.