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vartan
03-25-2011, 04:53
Armenian Noble Infantry and Cavalry have an ungrammaticality in their titles in EB. This notice is to bring awareness of this to the team working on EB the Second in order not to repeat the same mistake.

The infantry and cavalry are, as you can find out from their respective unit descriptions, bodyguards and knights, respectively. Therefore, they are rightly named tiknapah (bodyguard) and aspet (knight). These are, of course, noble units (the analogue of patricians, for all the Romanists). The noun in Armenian for 'noble' is aznvakan. The adjective in Armenian for 'noble' is aznvakanakan [1]. Therefore, these units' names should actually read Aznvakanakan Tiknapah and Aznvakanakan Aspet [2].

N.B.:
[1] This is not an instance of reduplication in Armenian. -akan is semantically analogous to the -al suffix of English (cf. regiment/regimental). It so happens that aznvakan is a rare case in which the noun itself ends in that exact string of consonants and vowels.
[2] English does not have a phono-/morphological difference between the noun and adjective of 'noble'.

Happy modding,
Vartan

Populus Romanus
03-25-2011, 06:26
There word "ungrammaticality" is ungrammatical.:wink:

stratigos vasilios
03-25-2011, 07:46
Don't push Vartan on grammar, he is the man!

That's very interesting btw, I'm sure there is no way anyone else in the world other than you would have picked that up...

jirisys
03-25-2011, 08:30
There word "ungrammaticality" is ungrammatical.:wink:

Actually it isn't, un-grammatic-ality

Non - Grammar-related - state of being of a thing

A non-grammatical-state of being of a thing.

I guess I'm right.

~Jirisys ()

Cute Wolf
03-25-2011, 09:56
so? we should change our export_units?

XSamatan
03-25-2011, 11:11
Thanks for the report, I'll forward it!

XSamatan

vartan
03-26-2011, 05:02
Thanks for the report, I'll forward it!

XSamatan
Thanks for forwarding the message. Apologies for not originally reporting in the bugs sub-forum.

jirisys
03-27-2011, 03:44
Thanks for forwarding the message. Apologies for not originally reporting in the bugs sub-forum.

Thanks for thanking the forward.

Don't worry, it seemed bilateral anyways.

~Jirisys ()

Foot
03-27-2011, 14:52
we do have a native armenian on our team, so I'll have to run your observations past him before commenting.

Foot

vartan
03-28-2011, 19:05
we do have a native armenian on our team, so I'll have to run your observations past him before commenting.

Foot
Run it by any Armenian linguists as well, if you have any. Dialect won't matter, the morphology in question is identical in both in this case.

Vartan