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Connacht
03-29-2011, 09:35
Indro Montanelli (April 22, 1909 - July 22, 2001) was an Italian journalist and historian, known for his new approach to writing history in books such as History of the Greeks and History of Rome.

Unanimously considered one of the greatest Italian journalists of the 20th century, he was among the “50 press freedom heroes of the past 50 years” in the list compiled by the International Press Institute in 2000.

Well, his books are simply, crystal clear and even fun, portraiting history not as the epic and pompous tale of big cool untouchable and uncorruptable guys that-were-uber, but as a true real history of vulnerable men, with their virtues and their vices, capable of big mistakes and with a personality that is closer to the one of common people.
He always uses modern metaphors to describe ancient events, often using more wisedom in description than many tv programs that do only propaganda or stereotypes.

I don't know if their books are available in English, however, for Italians and those who speak Italian, I suggest to read at least "History of Rome", light, fun and nice.

Here are some of his quotes, taken by his books. I would like to know what do you think of his sayings, if you agree with them or not, and as always, please excuse me if I did mistakes in the translation:



Revolutions win not by the power of their ideas, but when they manage to make a new ruling class that is better than the one before.

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In politics, returns to the past are always a mistake.

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Just like every great empire, the Roman one wasn't destroyed by an external enemy, but by his inner troubles.

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In Italy, when we studied history the only used style was the aulic and apologetic one. [...] There is nothing more tiring than following an history populated only by monuments. [...] Then I started to browse also all the other Roman historians and memorialists. And it was like giving life to stone. Soon all those protagonists that during school times were introduced to us not as men but as mummified in an attitude of abstracted symbols, lost their mineral immobility; they livened, they coloured of blood, of vices, of weaknesses, of tics, of little or great obsessions, in conclusion they became alive and true.
Why should we have, for those characters, more respect than how the Romans themselves did? And do we give them a great service by leaving them on a pedestal inside a cold hall of a museum, that only pupils, for exam diligence, are forced by the teacher to visit? [...]
What makes great the history of Rome is not that it was made by men different from us, but that it was made by men just like us. They didn't have anything of supernatural. And if they had had it, we would lack reasons for admiring them. Between Cicero and Carnelutti (http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francesco_Carnelutti) there are many aspects in common. Caesar when young was a big rascal, he remained a womanizer for the entire life and combed his own hair with a strand patch because he was ashamed of his baldness. This doesn't contradict his greatness as a general and a statesman. Augustus didn't pass all of his time, like a machine, organizing the Empire, but also struggling with his colitis and the rheumatisms, and nearly lost his first battle, that against Cassius and Brutus, for an onset of diarrhea.
I think that the greatest wrong we may do to them is to pass over in silence their human truth, like we fear to see them belittled by it. Contrariwise. Rome was Rome not because the heroes of his history didn't commit crimes and foolishnesses, but because even their crimes and foolishnesses, in so far as big and sometimes huge, couldn't hurt her right to primacy.

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Christiandom didn't destroy anything. It only buried a corpse: the one of a religion in which everybody no more believed; and filled the vacuum it left.
A religious belief counts not because it builds temples and does particular rituals, but because it gives a moral conduct. The paganism gave that, but when Jesus Christ was born, it was already in disuse, and men, consciously or not, were seeking for another one. The birth of the new faith didn't cause the ruin of the old one, but the ruin of the old one gave to the new faith the possibility to rise.
Despotism is always a sickness, but some situations cause it to be necessary. Tertullianus well understood this process and openly wrote about what was happening. He thought that the pagan world was in liquidation, and the sooner it is buried the better it is for everybody.

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Revolution, despite the common belief, isn't born in the proletary class, which then gives it manpower; but in the high, aristocratic and burgeois ones, which then suffer it. It is always, more or less, a form of suicide. A class can't be destroyed until it has already destroyed itself.
(referring to the incoming arrival of the Gracci and Gaius Marius)

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Men do not know how to appreciate and measure luck except that of others. Their own never.

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Sulla's restauration had a fundamental fault: it was, exactly, a "restauration", that is something that denied the needs, or, as we would say today, the "istances" that caused the revolution. In order to accomplish a long-lasting work, Sulla lacked what was the most necessary thing: trust in men. Who don't deserve it, but want it from those who intend to lead them. Sulla didn't believe to anything; not even to the chance to improve his fellows. He had a so great love for himself, that he didn't have much else for other people. He disliked them and thought that the only thing to do was keeping them in order. For this reason, he made a formidable police deployment, left in the hands of aristocracy: not because he valued it, but because he believed that the populari were even more despicable and that every reform of their would have been a worsening.
The consequence was that ten years after his death, his political work was in ruin. The patricians, who remained with all that power in their hands, rather than using it for putting some order in government and society, took advantage of the situation in order to steal, corrupt and kill. Everything became a matter of money.

I also already posted this long quote in another topic:



If we see things from above and give them a reason, we could say that Rome was born with a mission, that she accomplished it and with it ended.
That mission was to recollect the civilizations that came before her, the Greek one, the Eastern one, the Egyptian, Carthaginian, Celtic ones, to merge them and spread them in Europe and in the Mediterranean Basin.
Rome didn't invent so much in philosophy, art or science, but gave them roads for their circulation, armies for defending them, a formidable and complex system of law to guarantee their developement in order, and a language for making them universal.
Rome didn't invent even political forms: monarchy and republic, aristocracy and democracy, liberalism and dispotism, were already tested before. But she made them models, and in every one of them was brilliant for practical and organizative genius.

Abdicating with Constantine, Rome left her administrative structure to Constantinople, who survived for other 1000 years. And even the Christianity, in order to triumph in the world, had to became Roman. Saint Peter well understood that only by travelling in the Via Appia, Cassia, Aurelia and all the other highways built by Roman engineers, not the labile paths travelling the desert, the disciples of Jesus would have spred in the Earth.
His successors would have been called Pontefices Maximi just like those who managed religious questions in the pagan Urbs. And against the austerity of the Jewish rule, they introduced in the new liturgy many elements of the pagan one: the pomp and spectacularity of some ceremonies, Latin language, even a little vein of polytheism in the veneration of saints.
So, no more as the political centre of an empire, but as the mastermind of Christianity, Rome became again Caput Mundi, and remained so until the Protestant reformation.

Never a city in the world had a so wonderful adventure. Her history is so great that even the huge crimes scattered during her time seem tiny.
Maybe one of the troubles of Italy today is this: to have for capital a city that is disproportionate, for name and legacy, to the modesty of a people that, when shouts "go for it Rome!" is only referring to a football club.

Zarax
04-02-2011, 15:50
Ah, one of the last great free journalists in Italy.
He was a man of great integrity and at the same time of great humor.

In the 1980s when he was offered a place in Berlusconi's mausoleum he answered him "Domine non sum dignus" (Lord I am not worthy) and later on when Berlusconi started his political career he resigned from his newspapers as he believed (rightfully so) that he wouldn't have been able to maintain an independent stance otherwise.

His books are indeed worth a read as they are an example on how history could be made interesting even for the "common people", at least when they were written.
He must be spinning in his grave today given how much anything related to culture degraded in Italy...

vartan
04-06-2011, 06:52
"Revolutions win not by the power of their ideas, but when they manage to make a new ruling class that is better than the one before."

Cf. Hegel's dialectics as applied by Marx.

Arjos
04-06-2011, 11:27
Yeah, reading those passages reminded me a lot of Hegel's "Volkgeist"...
I loved Montanelli, he was a freedom of speech's paladin and a master of language, but that book sounds like a teleology of the past...

vartan
04-07-2011, 04:52
Yeah, reading those passages reminded me a lot of Hegel's "Volkgeist"...
I loved Montanelli, he was a freedom of speech's paladin and a master of language, but that book sounds like a teleology of the past...
Oh, historians aren't done with that just yet; they're still churning! ratatatatata...ratatatata....