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Crazed Rabbit
04-13-2011, 03:49
Decreed from on high, the Supreme Court of the United States. (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/10/opinion/10thompson.htm?_r=2)

A prosecutor can manufacture evidence to convict an innocent man, hide exculpatory evidence from the defense, intimidate witnesses into pointing the finger at the defendant.

But they can never be sued by the innocent people they send to jail, nor are they ever criminally charged, nor are they ever reprimanded by the professional organizations they belong to.

Prosecutors have absolute immunity from civil lawsuits, even when they willfully and deliberately break the law to convict people.

An article from a man who spent 14 years on death row for a crime he didn't commit: (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/10/opinion/10thompson.htm?_r=2)

I SPENT 18 years in prison for robbery and murder, 14 of them on death row. I’ve been free since 2003, exonerated after evidence covered up by prosecutors surfaced just weeks before my execution date. Those prosecutors were never punished. Last month, the Supreme Court decided 5-4 to overturn a case I’d won against them and the district attorney who oversaw my case, ruling that they were not liable for the failure to turn over that evidence — which included proof that blood at the robbery scene wasn’t mine.

Because of that, prosecutors are free to do the same thing to someone else today.

More info from SCOTUSBlog: (http://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/connick-v-thompson/)

On March 29, 2011 in Connick v. Thompson, the Court – by a vote of five to four, in an opinion by Justice Thomas – reversed a fourteen-million-dollar award in favor of John Thompson, who served eighteen years in prison for murder and armed robbery before his convictions were vacated. The Orleans Parish District Attorney’s Office conceded that prosecutors failed to turn over, in violation of Brady v. Maryland, evidence to Thompson’s defense team that would have been exculpatory, but it maintained that it could not be held liable under Section 1983 for failing to properly train its attorneys. The Court agreed, holding that the district attorney’s office cannot be held liable under Section 1983 for failure to train its prosecutors based on a single violation of Brady.

One of the cases cited by the majority in its opinion featured another innocent man sent to prison: (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-court-innocence-20110403,0,1867335.story)

Lawyers who represented the wrongly convicted also said they were shocked that Scalia would cite the 1988 case of Arizona vs. Larry Youngblood to bolster his opinion. More than a decade ago, after Scalia and the other justices sent Youngblood back to prison, new DNA tests revealed he was innocent.

Carol Wittels, the Tucson lawyer who fought to free Youngblood, said she found it "astounding" that the court would still cite the case as a precedent. "It was a horrible decision then, and I can't believe they are still citing it, since so many people have been cleared with DNA evidence since then," Wittels said in a telephone interview.

An overview of the whole case: (http://reason.com/archives/2010/03/31/the-disappearing-blood-stain)

John Thompson spent 18 years in a Louisiana prison, 14 of them in a windowless, six-by-nine-foot death row cell. According to a federal appeals court, "There were multiple mentally deranged prisoners near him who would yell and scream at all hours and throw human waste at the guards." Thompson, whose execution was scheduled half a dozen times, was a few weeks away from death by lethal injection when his life was saved by a bloody scrap of cloth.

Although four prosecutors in the Orleans Parish District Attorney's Office were aware of this evidence, Thompson didn't learn about it until 14 years after his death sentence, when an investigator hired by his pro bono lawyers discovered a crucial crime lab report. In a case the Supreme Court agreed to hear last week, the prosecutors' boss, former D.A. Harry Connick, argues that his office should not be held responsible for the egregious misconduct that led to Thompson's 18-year ordeal. But if it isn't, no one will be, an outcome that would not only deprive Thompson of compensation but endanger every American's due process rights.

What reason do prosecutors have to follow the law when breaking it makes prosecution so much easier and carries no risk whatsoever for their wrongdoing?

CR

Strike For The South
04-15-2011, 00:13
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Louis VI the Fat
04-15-2011, 00:24
Go get 'em, Rabbit!

drone
04-15-2011, 04:22
I have come to the conclusion that the current court is full of stooges.

Ice
04-15-2011, 20:39
This is pathetic and disgraceful. That poor man.

Xiahou
04-15-2011, 23:21
Decreed from on high, the Supreme Court of the United States. (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/10/opinion/10thompson.htm?_r=2)

A prosecutor can manufacture evidence to convict an innocent man, hide exculpatory evidence from the defense, intimidate witnesses into pointing the finger at the defendant.

But they can never be sued by the innocent people they send to jail, nor are they ever criminally charged, nor are they ever reprimanded by the professional organizations they belong to.

Prosecutors have absolute immunity from civil lawsuits, even when they willfully and deliberately break the law to convict people.

I really don't think that's what the court found. The majority found that the prosecutor's office isn't legally liable due to a misdeed of a prosecuutor. Thompson charged that a prosecutor's misconduct amounted to the willfull violation his his rights by the entire prosecutor's office by means of inadequate training. The majority said that didn't add up.


One of the cases cited by the majority in its opinion featured another innocent man sent to prison:The fact that evidence later exhonerated him doesn't invalidate the findings of the case. In Arizona v Youngblood, the SCOTUS said that a failure to completely preserve DNA evidence doesn't amount to a violation of due process. Whether Youngblood was innocent or guilty doesn't change that.

The fact that people are wrongly convicted is a tragedy. But, that doesn't automatically mean that their rights to due process were violated. These cases should be decided dispassionately. Critics charging that the ruling wass "cruel" don't get it. Court decisions shouldn't be made based on emotionality- that leads to bad law.

Crazed Rabbit
04-17-2011, 17:51
I really don't think that's what the court found. The majority found that the prosecutor's office isn't legally liable due to a misdeed of a prosecuutor. Thompson charged that a prosecutor's misconduct amounted to the willfull violation his his rights by the entire prosecutor's office by means of inadequate training. The majority said that didn't add up.

You're right in that the court already found, years ago, Prosecutors have absolute immunity from being sued for any sort of illegal action they took to get a person convicted. That's why the innocent man here couldn't sue the prosecutor's directly, even though it was clear the prosecutors acted illegally.

And now the SCOTUS has added more protection. Even when the prosecutor's office does not properly train the prosecutors, it can't be sued.

Now, it seems clear to me it's necessary for the apparatus of our legal system to properly train their employees so the people's rights are not violated.


The fact that people are wrongly convicted is a tragedy. But, that doesn't automatically mean that their rights to due process were violated. These cases should be decided dispassionately. Critics charging that the ruling wass "cruel" don't get it. Court decisions shouldn't be made based on emotionality- that leads to bad law.

This man isn't suing because he was wrongly convicted, but because his rights were violated. The SCOTUS, in its continuing mission to bend over backwards for police and prosecutors, said no one can be held responsible.

So, you tell me, what incentive is there for prosecutors to follow the law?

CR

a completely inoffensive name
04-18-2011, 01:17
For the most part, the current SCOTUS is terrible. I do not care for Roberts at all.