African Elites

[Heir_of_Alexander]

Hi,

I would like to see the sources you used when you made the Elite African Pikemen and the Elite African Infantry. And you say Polybius called them the flower of the carthaginian army? Can you tell me the sources of this? Not meaning to be rude or anything, I just wanna see them.

Cheers

[Vaginacles]

http://www.historum.com/ancient-history/22117-army-carthage-during-hannibals-time.html

nice forum post with sources to back up his claims. There seems to be some speculation as to whether the Phalanx is a hoplite base or phalangite based. Anyhoo i hope you enjoy.

[Tanit]

That thread is merely decent. The amount of work and research that went into EB1 units has been at least doubled by the amount of work that has gone into EB2 units. You can be assured that new unit descriptions which appear will be much more revealing on the sources and historicity of our units.

[vartan]

Which style of citations should we expect on the description texts?

[fomalhaut]

I enjoyed some of scythian units descriptions, because it admitted to lots of conjecture, but also showed the thought process that went into why this helmet was chosen, this cuirass, etc.

[moonburn]

there are many skythian information from grave sites and even some evidence that there where major nomadic setlements numbering hundreads of thousands so the military equipment can be easy to trace at least for the nobles while the rest where mainly horse archers and horse riders wich since they don´t have much in terms of equipment aren´t historically inacurate

[Pedro]

still i think the phalanx in the game its too overpower , becasuse the sarissa (spears) never have been broke for the cavalry ( been more realistic) or the soliders so that make them tof and impenetrable,and i am sure that sometimes the translation inst right because, and the spartans are too much value, read the history they were just a myth in manny battles they were ineficcient and they fight equals wiht the ateniens so much brave and lesser "prepared", even the spartans surrender and were take prisioners to atenas in the peloponeso war !!!! so the real eliteee infantry would be the roman army in attak and a outstanding morale not just good morale they wolud be excellent morale dont surrender until then 10 or 15 men and the "barbarian" tribes ( celts i dont like the barbarian word ) , like the lusotanna , gauls, arverni ,etc the second in attak and morale but they fight like a mass( bigger number ) and not organized like romans and others so they must tired very quickly , so you need to use the tactis to attak in groups for rest some troops and the gaul cavalry must be outsatindg too !!!

thanks , its just my opinion great work with the patch

[fomalhaut]

there are many skythian information from grave sites and even some evidence that there where major nomadic setlements numbering hundreads of thousands so the military equipment can be easy to trace at least for the nobles while the rest where mainly horse archers and horse riders wich since they don´t have much in terms of equipment aren´t historically inacurate

i'm talking about the unit that said pretty much "we are assuming they used this style of greek helmet due to their willingness to use enemies arms/armor and this helmet was common for the hellenes of this area. this cuirass was used because... etc"

i really liked that