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VikingPower
05-03-2011, 22:05
1. If the unit has a spear and an alternate celtic longsword/axe attack then you dont have to alt-click with that unit, but you can put it off guard mode and they will always use the secondary weapon. This works with Alpine phalanx and helveti phalanx, but with Averni nobles then they are always switching to spear regardless of that what you do - this makes the Mori gaesum a better unit than Arjos because the former do also have longer spears, stamina, and fast moving trait.

2. Falcata and kops have only 1.1 lethality but axes have 1.65 something and maces are also supposed to have a higher one. However if there is made a comparison of the skill needed to use a sword v.s axe then the swords does of course have a more complex manouvers in defense and attack. Assumption: Axes were limited in their use against other swords and their Armour piercing attribute should be a good enough quality for them. For if there is noticed the units which use an axes then they are all mostly some impetuous barbarians which lacked an advanced skills with them.

3. When fighting the AI then everything works and it is rather pointless to discuss some tactics for the campaign because the AI is retarded. Even that someone could beat the AI a hundred thousand times in a row then he would still be as equally as ignorant when fighting other human players.

LusitanianWolf
05-03-2011, 23:20
:inquisitive:
1. If the unit has a spear and an alternate celtic longsword/axe attack then you dont have to alt-click with that unit, but you can put it off guard mode and they will always use the secondary weapon. This works with Alpine phalanx and helveti phalanx, but with Averni nobles then they are always switching to spear regardless of that what you do - this makes the Mori gaesum a better unit than Arjos because the former do also have longer spears, stamina, and fast moving trait.
Thats why I slightly dislike units with spear/sword combo: They use spears when they should be swinging their swords around and switch to swords when they should be doing a spear wall (like when being trampled by cavalry).... But will be weirder if they just dropped their swords and popped their spears out of nowhere. And that is a shame because lots of awesome units use that combo :no:

Rahl
05-04-2011, 21:31
This works with Alpine phalanx and helveti phalanx, but with Averni nobles then they are always switching to spear regardless of that what you do -
The difference between this units is that the alpine and helveti phalanx have their spears as first weapons and the axes/swords as secondary but the Arverni nobles (and Solduros and Rycalawre) have their swords as primary weapons. But the secondary weapon always dominates, they use them for charging, they switch to it when falling down and you can activate it with ALT+click, while the primary weapon will only be used if you do a simple click but that doesn't work very well most of the time. Like with all things that are bad about EB it's because of the damn RTW engine...

Lazy O
05-05-2011, 16:27
Well, I dont think those count as lessons learned but the EDU opened for a closer look :P

Grade_A_Beef
05-05-2011, 21:23
I thought most warriors charged spears first and then drew their swords once their spear inevitably breaks? Too bad spears can't "break" in the game though, how I wish they could for my Solduros....