The Royal Council

[Ibn-Khaldun]

The Royal Council

In the depths of the Royal Palace at Alexandria, through a maze of torchlit corridors decorated with the hieroglyphs of the Ptolemaioi's feted Pharonic predecessors, down a flight of stairs constructed from giant blocks of stone hauled into place by unfortunate Nubian slaves, lies the Royal Council Chamber.

Here, on a raised dais amidst a forest of soaring doric columns, in the flickering lamplight and overlooked by statues of the gods of the Nile and Mount Olympus, the nobles of the Ptolemaic dynasty plot, scheme, jockey for position and debate the policy of the Nile Kingdom.


This is the Council thread. Please post only IC in here. If you think an OOC comment is neccessary then please use spoilers!

NB!
1. Proper way to propose a legislation:

Edict/Law X.Z: Text of Edict/Law. (X = Number of the Council session, Z = Number of the Edict/Law within the Council session.)

For example:

Edict 3.4: Peace must be signed with Bactria.2. Edicts last only 12 turns. The time between 2 normal Council Sessions.

3. Laws last until they are changed with another Law, they are fulfilled or taken out of effect by a vote in the council.

4. Before proposing a legislation make sure you have the right to do it. Make sure you know how many you can propose with your current rank.

5. During Emergency Council Sessions the proper way to propose a legislation is:

Edict/Law EX.Z: Text of Edict/Law. (E = Marks the Emergency Council SessionX = Number of the Council session, Z = Number of the Edict/Law within the Council session.)
For example:

Edict E3.4: Peace must be signed with Bactria.

Introduction is written by phonicsmonkey :bow:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Door opens and an old man enters the room. Slowly he moves to the center of the room and looks around. It seems he is one of the first ones here. He shakes his head in disbelief and mutters something about young people being always late.

He then turns towards the few people present and speaks..

You all know who I am..

He looks the people present and shakes his head once again..

Aparently, a lot have changed since last time I was here and that was just three months ago!

Anyway, I am Eunostos Kypriakos and I am the one who called this Emergency session. The reason is simple.. My health is getting worse by day and thus I am not able to fulfill my duties as Chancellor.

Eunostos sighs..

With great sorrow I have to say that I am stepping down as Chancellor. But before I do it I will officially declare the First Emergency Council Session open!

It will stay open for debate and legislation until 19:00 GMT on Tuesday, June 14th, at which point there will be 48 hours for voting!

Eunostos breath deeply and took his seat..

[The Celtic Viking]

Sitting on his throne, Basileus Philadelphos Ptolemaios raises his right hand in greetings.

"I'm saddened to hear of your retirement from the position of Chancellor, Eunostos Kypriakos. You have done an excellent job so far, one which has earned you your king's praise. If whoever succeeds you is only half as good as you, we shall have a bright future indeed.

Speaking of which, I will expect plenty of applicants for this job. Whether you wish to prove yourself or if you already have, feel free to nominate yourself, but it is not a position to take lightly. In the off chance that none shall wish to take it, I will, but I will not do so in any other case. I'd rather set up an incompetent fool and then impeach him than take it immediately. I am a busy man, after all.

Now, onwards and forwards. My son Euergetes Ptolemais has recently come of age and can now join us here in the Council. Treat him with the respect he deserves, for, as my eldest son, I now name him my heir and successor. Son, whether you choose to stay in Sidon and look after its defences when I've left, or if you instead make your way down to Alexandreia to make use of its knowledge and wisdom - all of it which is accessable to you - I leave up to you to decide. You may even invent the third option and go and do something completely different. I ask of you only three things; loyalty: to me, to the Council and to the gods. Fairness: to be fair and just in every action you take and every word you utter. Unwavering determination: to always do what needs to be done to uphold and expand upon the glory and greatness of the the kingdom and the gods. Uphold all three and you will have made me happy. Excell at them and you will have made me proud."

Philadelphos calls for an aide who runs up and hands over a paper before bowing low to Philadelphos. Without thanking the man, Philadelphos coughs.

"I have here in my hands the first edict of this emergency council."

Edict E1.1: Admiral Naukrates must immediately sail north and lift the blockade of Sidon's port.

As long as the port of Sidon is blockaded, I cannot get the supplies necessary to move my army into enemy territory. This would force me to stay on the defensive, which in turn would mean that Tarsos is sure to fall. That is not acceptable.

Edict E1.2: The Royal Army of the Heir, now outside of Memphis should make its way to relieve or reclaim Tarsos.

As I said, losing Tarsos is not acceptable, yet if I go that leaves Sidon defenceless, and Hierosolyma open to attack from Damaskos. If I go after them first, I will no doubt be too late to save Tarsos, and there's no telling if I even have enough men left. The only option then, as I see it right now, is to send the heir's army. Technically, this should mean that my son would have first right to command it, but I recommend you, my son, to let Leontiskos Thraikikos command if that is his will. You are, after all, still young and green, and this is not a time for screw ups. You could learn well from the former Kleronomos Basileus, who should know his former army very well.

Those are my initial proposals, and there is no need to second them. Please give your opinions of them anyway; I am open to all suggestions. I may change them or come up with new ones at a later time."

[Ashurnasirpal II]

Somewhat to the left of the throne, in a lebanese-cedar chair with gold engravings, sits Meleagros Ptolemaios, the King's half-brother.

"I rejoice at your fortunes my brother, and wish great success to my nephew, young Euergetes, in all his endeavors! Zeus-Ammon watch over you both!

Shame for the name though..." Meleagros winks at his brother. "Ha! Ha! I jest! You know better than to take my jibes seriously brother! The boy will make a fine leader. You will teach him of war and I could even show him the basics of arithmetic and geometry."

Meleagros clears his throat.

"On to more serious matters. First I wholeheartedly approve and second of both edict E1.1 and E1.2.

Secondly, I would like to present myself for the office of Chancellor. My managerial skills make me best suited for a job far from the frontlines of battle. I would endeavor to support my brother as he stabilizes the kingdom and battles the Seleukid threat, as well as improve our current lackluster trading and income facilities. As a son of Ptolemy Soter, I believe it is my sacred duty to ensure the good governance of this great kingdom under the watchful eye and steady hand of our Basileos and Pharaoh."

[Ibn-Khaldun]

My Basileus, first, thank you for your kind words. Second, admiral Naukrates already lost a battle against the enemy fleet. And then we had twice as much ships than currently. Our fleet was large but of poor quality. I doubt that the remaining 26 ships in Naukrates' fleet could take on pentekontaroi of our enemies.

If we only could have mnai to build a proper fleet...

Eunostos shrugged..

But we don't.

One of the slaves whispers something to Eunostos..

Oh.. Right. My good friend Zoarchos Helios sent me a note that he runs for the position of Royal Treasurer. He should be somewhere near Memphis and unfortunatelly he can't get here in time to participate in the Council.

I would also like to propose the following Law..

Law E1.1: The Nomarchy of Upper Egypt must be created with the following provinces: Thebais, Oasis Megale and Triakontaschoinos. City of Diospolis-Megale will become the capital of Nomarchy.

The reason why I propose this is simple.. We don't have any higher officials in that region. We also don't have large garrisons to keep both the cities and the surrounding territories in check. While Syria is important we shouldn't forget other parts of the kingdom.

[strategos roma]

Seated on the far side of the room, a young man starts speaking confidently.

My Basileus, may I also wish you and the Kleronomos good fortune in all that you undertake. I agree that Meleagros would make a fine choice as Chancellor and I whole-heartedly agree with Law E1.1 and Edict E1.2. However, I have reservations regarding Edict E1.1 as our navy might not be strong enough.

[Myth]

A messenger arrives, a man clad in the robe of a free citizen but with otherwise a lack of any distinct features, jewelry or even a memorable face. He kneels and waits for the nobility to allow him to raise his head and present his message.

On a sun dried reed parchment, not of particularly high quality, the elegant script of Alexandros Thraikikos can be read:

"The greetings be upon you my Basileus Philadelphos Ptolemaios, and to the elderly yet revered Eunostos Kypriakos, and to any other of my kin that may be present in the jewel of a city that is blessed Alexandria. I am, as some of you may know, currently tasked with governing our city of Hierosolyma. I have received reports of the Seleukids stirring trouble by both land and sea.

I wish to propose two courses of action, both of which I wish to be considered for the good of our land and realm:

Edict E1.3: Our spy by the name of Ploutos Salaminios, who is currently to be found in the wooded areas North of Damaskos, be sent North-East into Seleukid territory.

The reason behind this is so that we may know how far off are the enemy reinforcements, how well are their own cities garrisoned and what other armies are marching trough their lands. Having two large armies near or at our borders leads me to believe that they may have left some cities with little in the way of guards. Should that be the case, I think that I, or another willing Strategos, can lead a band of selected troops and capture an enemy city with little risk for the realm, but with promise of great rewards upon success.

Edict E1.4:I be allowed to take the whole garrison of Hierosolyma, spare of a unit of toxotai, who will be left to keep the civil order and peace of our good citizens. I will march this army and head for Sidon, where I will obtain any local garrison troops and try to amass between 6 to 8 phalanxes. I will then head North and assist whomever wishes to lead the Royal army that is just outside of Sidon. I could fight beside him though I think it would be best to flank the enemy and take a settlement from him while the Royal army deals with the main forces.

Should both the Basileus and his heir decide it is unnecessary for them to be exposed to the risks of open battle, I would be happy to take responsibility and the honor of leading the Royal army stationed at Sidon to lift the siege on Tarsos, or reclaim it and conquer new lands for the Basileus!

I eagerly await your answer!

Signed: Alexandros Thraikikos"

[LeoCordis]

Bothos enters the Royal Council, his face a shade paler than is in the heat of Egypt.

Greetings friends, I apologise for my late entry, it would seem that the weather of Egypt does not suit me as much as Anatolia.

Reading through the Council notes meticulously Bothos decides to speak a while later.

On the issues of Edict 1.1 and 1.2 I agree with in principal. The Royal Army of the Heir must be marched north immediately as it is the best fighting force the Kingdom currently possesses. I would like to make the request of accompanying Leontiskos Thraikikos or the Kleronomos Basileus, when they take command. I appeal to whoever will take command to be the second in the army.

Edict 1.1 does seem impossible now that the former Chancellor has enlightened us to the proceedings of his reign. I will not support it, unless of course the Basileus removes his proposal in light of further information. I would also ask Eunostos Kypriakos who would be in charge of such a Normarchy in the south? I agree with the idea in principle but such a large tract of land and many cities is almost a Kingdom of itself. I would be very hesitant to let anybody but the most loyal to watch over our southern flank and govern it well, whilst guarding from the barbarous civilisations of southern Africa.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Eunostos speaks..

I will second both Edict E1.3 and Edicy E1.4

However, I would like to remind you all that Kyrenese forces captured Paraitonion and they have large enough force to threathen Alexandreia near our border. If Heir's Royal Army leaves from the region.. They might take their chances and we cannot risk losing Alexandreia!

Thus, I would like someone to propose an Edict that forces the Heir's Royal Army to conquer the city of Paraitonion back!
Since I stepped down from the position of Chancellor I can't do it myself.

Turning towards Bothos..

Just like you said, the man has to be loyal to the Basileus and to the Kingdom. I will leave the Basileus to decide who could run such a Nomarchy.

[LeoCordis]

Bothos rises once more.

Though Edicts E1.3 and E1.4 do not need my sponsor I support them anyway.

I would also like to propose Edict E1.5 from the advice revered Eunostos Kypriakos has given us.

Under a small detachment of the Royal Army of the Heir of around half a dozen units, under the command of myself, will retake the city of Paraitonion and return it to the rule of Basileus. The detachment will then turn and rejoin the Royal Army of the Heir or follow in it's wake if Edict E1.2 passes.

Bothos turns towards Eunostos.

Yes, I'm sure we will all be able to trust the wisdom of the Basileus in choosing a Normach, I cannot however give it a second sponsor, if indeed Isigonos Kleopatrites did second it in his vague words.

[Visor]

A man in the corner stands up.

I am Ankhwennefer Philometer, or 'The Anchor'. I second edict 1.1 and 1.2.

I would propose Edict 1.6, I would request a small force of around 4 units of mostly cavalry if possible, otherwise infantry will suit fine, to provide support to any general in need of help. These are trying times, and my men will be able to move freely to strike at weak points, reinforce armies and bolster garrisons, etc.

[Ashurnasirpal II]

Meleagros harrumphs loudly to clear his throat before speaking:

"Hrrrmm, I would not suggest the creation of a Nomarchy at the present time. There seems to be no present threat to the south, nor any reason to focus any attention on it. However, should our esteemed Basileos feel that this special governorship is required in Upper Egypt, then I offer my services in this task as well. I have already stated that I am not one for the front and would be much more useful to the kingdom in an administrative role.

As for the feasability of edict E1.1, perhaps a strategos could finance the construction of a fleet to support Admiral Naukrates? Either in Alexandria or Sidon? This could much relieve our naval position. Otherwise, if I am elected chancellor, I will look into options to bridge the gap between ours and our enemy's naval forces.

I will also second both edicts E1.4 and E1.5 and support them if it pleases our Basileos. Edict E1.6 might however be a stress on our present forces. We should keep our armies grouped in these times of war. Perhaps Ankhwennefer Philometer would consent to helping Bothos Lapethou Kypriakou in defending most glorious Alexandria?

[Visor]

Ankhwennefer stands again.

I would prefer to be on the offensive, even if the forces said in Edict 1.6 were to be reduced to a total of two units besides myself. However, if that proves impossible, I would rather join the offensive with an army.

But if defense is what we need, I shall be there to defend.

He sits back down.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Financing the construction of a fleet from his own Funds? It's doable but the upkeep would probably ruin that Strategos.

[Ashurnasirpal II]

The fleet could be bought back by the kingdom at a convenient time. Council willing, with interest.

[Visor]

We could all put in funds for the fleet. It is in the interest of our nation that we have one.

[LeoCordis]

I thank you for seconding Edict E1.5 Meleagros Ptolemaios. I see you have wisdom in your years and I will support your election to Chancellor.

If, Gods willing, Edict E1.5 does pass I would be more than happy to Ankhwennefer Philometer serve as my second-in-command on my detached detail. All Asiatikons have heard the tales of 'The Anchor' and it would be a pleasure and an honour to have him accompany me.

I have hardly any funds left for a fleet I am afraid my brothers. The fortune my father gave me for my stay in Aegypten has sadly being wittled away and the recent purchase of an estate and supervisors has left me with barely a couple of hundred mnai.

[Visor]

Ankhwennefer stands once more.

It would be a pleasure to serve our glorious nation with you. If the edict passes, I will accept.

I too have barely a mnai to rub between my hands. Maybe some of the more wealthier of us could provide?

[GenosseGeneral]

I young man, who stood right until now in a corner of the room speaks in a loud voice:
"My Basileos, I am Satyrion Limyraios, son of a family of your most loyal officers.
We are a family of soldiers and thus do what ever our king demands; but now I have to speak up. We must not only concentrate on the Kings of Syria! Tarsos might be in trouble, but first have to fight off the Kyrenaian threat. While arsos is only one of our numerous provinces, Alexandreia is the heart of your realm. The Kyrenaians threat our capital, but also the homes and estates of every of you, noble Strategoi. Therefore I second Edict E1.5 and would offer myself to fight for it as commander or as simple soldier under another man's command."

[LeoCordis]

My good Stratgeos Satyrion Limyraios, I thank you for seconding Edict E1.5, though it is rather pointless when an edict only needs one second.

The edict also specifically states that I will be in command of the detachment from the Royal Army of the Heir. I will extend the same offer to you that I did to Ankhwennefer Philometer. If the edict comes to pass I would offer you a place in the army, though only of third-in-command. I'm sure a great family such yourselves, who have served the Kingdom and Hellenes so proudly throughout the years would be a wonderful asset to what should be a glorious reconquest of another of Megas Alexandros' achievements.

[The Celtic Viking]

"Greetings to you all, noble Strategoi!

I am very glad to see that this Council is a strong one, and many good points and suggestions have already been made. Be assured that none of them have fallen on deaf ears, comrades. For example, I was not aware of the weakness of our naval forces before, but thanks to Eunostos, the silence has been broken. However, if admiral Naukrates has become a bleeding-heart pacifist since his loss and thinks this is his ticket out of war, he is quite mistaken if I can have a say in it, which I of course can. I very much agree with Ankhwennefer Philometer and my brother when they voice their view that we should all be selfless enough to chip in when the kingdom is in need. I have decided to take matters on my own and spend my money to build some ships for him to finish the job with. Any strategos who, out of his own free will, donates his money to help this cause will earn my gratitude. As such I withdraw Edict E1.1 and replace it with this:

Edict E1.1: The Basileus Philadelphos Ptolemaios, and any strategos who so chooses, may spend his own money to build a fleet in order to eliminate the immediate threat that the Seleukid naval supremacy now pose us. If this is done, the recruitment cost will be repaid by the Kingdom as soon as possible; the fleet will be disbanded as soon as the threat is dealt with, though.

Until that is done, though, I have decided to Change Edict E1.2 as well. It shall say this:

Edict E1.2: The heir's Royal Army shall be escorted by admiral Naukrates to Kilikia where they shall relieve or reclaim Tarsos from the Seleukids.

I will add that I support leaving a few units from it in Aigyptos to defend Alexandreia, though I am quite sceptical as to the wisdom of going on the offensive on a second front at this moment.

Now onwards and forwards, comrades. The idea of creating a Nomarchy in the upper Nile has been suggested and proposed, and it is one I can say I neither outright reject or endorse. Meleagros, my brother, you seem to be the main objector to this idea, and I take your opinion of this seriously. I have in fact decided that, should Law E1.1 pass, I will indeed grant it to you. Does this influence your position on the matter at all?"

[LeoCordis]

If, Basileus you are to leave those troops specifically for the defence of Aegyptos to defend the borders of the Kingdom then I will propose another edict.

Edict E1.7 - On the condition that Edict E1.5 passes then the troops that have been left to Bothos Lapethou Kypriakou will become a regular army.

[The Celtic Viking]

Philadelphos Ptolemaios coughs.

"Excuse me, Bothos, but I believe you are mistaken, or perhaps I just misunderstand you. Probably I'm just too technically minded about this sort of thing. Whatever the case may be, I would not be the one leaving any men anywhere; it is the heir who would do it. Speaking of which, where is my son? I would very, very much like to hear his opinion on this; it is his army we are talking about, after all."

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Eunostos turns towards Bothos..

I hesitate supporting this Edict. The old laws say:

4.3 Army Replenishment

If a Regular or Royal Army falls below the minimum strength level, all military recruitment must be allocated to restoring the Army to minimum strength before money can be spent on other recruitment, unless the Basileus agrees otherwise.
In the event of a conflict, a Royal Army takes priority over a Regular Army.

If the Basileus agrees with this I have no problem..

[LeoCordis]

My Basileus, you said you supported leaving units in Aigyptos, so I thought it would be right to propose such a decision. If the Edict E1.5 does come to pass then the units will be split from the Royal Army no matter what.

Eunostos, I understand the severe financial burdens we are under, but these are vital possessions of the Kingdom we are talking about defending. The indignity we face from Kyrenese forces if insufferable and that outweighs all other concerns in the south. The ancient laws stand of course, but it states that 'all military recruitment' not, 'all military units' will be allocated to restoring the army.

As thus I do not see anything lawfully wrong with my Edict. Of course, in my youth I could be overseeing something important.

[The Celtic Viking]

"Well, the law does say that I (and I presume the Chancellor) could agree to ignore this law. I would be willing to do that in this case if necessary; what I would not be willing to do is to take men away from my son without his consent. Thus I would like to hear from him before I take my side in this."

Philadelphos turns to Bothos.

"That is true, but as long as it isn't made into a Regular Army, those men would still belong to my son. This would change if we made them into a Regular Army, which is why I won't support it without my son's approval. In fact, I won't even support taking men away from my son in the way specified in Edict E1.5 if he doesn't consent with it."

[LeoCordis]

I suppose you are right my Basileus.

I will eagerly await your sons return from Syria.

[The Celtic Viking]

"I have been thinking about this problem of the blockaded port. So far we have concentrated on the 'blockaded' part. As it has come to light that we do not have the navy required to lift it, and the means to create one will delay, so perhaps for the most immediate future we should instead focus on the 'port' part. I think I shall simply move south and have the supplies shipped to Hierosolyma instead, from where I shall strike at Damaskos and end the threat that city poses us. This doesn't mean that their navy no longer poses as a threat; it just means that it isn't as immediate as it was before. As such, I have edited Edict E1.1 to reflect this."

[Myth]

A stout, tanned youth with obvious Greek features walks in. His wavy black hair, shines as if coated with wax, and his prominent Greek nose stands as a monument to youth and male vigor atop his smooth cheeked face. He is otherwise clad in a leather cuirass and with greaves and armbands protecting his limbs. On his waist is strapped a short sword with an intricate handle, and to his side a man carries a large hopolon shield and a sarissa pike.

"Brothers - he bows to everyone in the room. - and most honored ruler. I have rushed from Hierosolyma upon receiving news of a full emergency council being called. I trust you have received my suggestions already via messenger."

Alexandros takes a few minutes to situate himself and read trough what has been proposed already. He raises an eyebrow at one point, but remains silent for now.

[johnhughthom]

Leontiskos Thraikikos saunters into the room.

"I'm shocked Alexandros', you've only got one brother. Surely living with all those Jews hasn't made you forget me? I heard they do strange things to their privates, they didn't rope you into that did they? Probably not, too busy proclaiming somebody or other, what's the word, Messiah?" He looks around and sees Philadelphos. "Sorry Basileus, didn't mean to ignore you there." Thraikikos bows lows. "As ever, my sword is yours my Lord."

Taking a seat the young man continues.

"I must thank you, my Lord, the responsibility of being heir was beginning to wear on me, glad to finally hand it over to somebody worthy. How is Eurgetes? I hope he's feeling better. His army is well trained and eager for action, they are all looking forward to fighting for the future Basileus. And of course I stand ready to assist in any way I can"

He stands, then looks Bothos Lapethou Kypriakou in the eye for a few seconds. "Tell me friend, what makes you think you should take men from an army I have trained and marched with, men who know me and respect me, men I have fought beside. What have you done to come here and ask to take them from me? I held them ready for our future Basileus, not some upstart islander. Do tell."

He holds Bothos' eye for a few seconds, then sits.

OOC: I just wanted to make sure LeoCordis knows that little outburst was only in character, have to have a little conflict or things get boring. :wink:

[Ashurnasirpal II]

Meleagros gives an approving nod to Bothos Kypriakou, before turning to the Basileos:

I thank you heartily of considering me worthy of administering the southern reaches of your kingdom and must confess the honor would soothe my ego after the slight misfortunes I suffered in Makedonia. Meleagros laughs. In any case, I am not so much opposed to the idea but I rather believe a nomarchy would have little direct effect. But if it pleases the council and serves your purpose, my Basileos, then I am not the man to refuse dominion over the rich valley of Upper Egypt!

As for the realignment of Edicts E1.1 and E1.2, I support them, should support be needed again, and I pledge all what remains of my funds towards the construction of additional ships for admiral Naukrates' fleet.


OOC: I have compiled the current edicts for easier reference.

Edict E1.1b The Basileus Philadelphos Ptolemaios, and any strategos who so chooses, may spend his own money to build a fleet in order to eliminate the immediate threat that the Seleukid naval supremacy now pose us. If this is done, the recruitment cost will be repaid by the Kingdom as soon as possible; the fleet will be disbanded as soon as the threat is dealt with, though. Proposed by Basileos Philadelphos Ptolemaios and seconded by Meleagros Ptolemaios.

Edict E1.2b The heir's Royal Army shall be escorted by admiral Naukrates to Kilikia where they shall relieve or reclaim Tarsos from the Seleukids. Proposed by Basileos Philadelphos Ptolemaios and seconded by Meleagros Ptolemaios.

Edict E1.3 Our spy by the name of Ploutos Salaminios, who is currently to be found in the wooded areas North of Damaskos, be sent North-East into Seleukid territory. Proposed by Alexandros Thraikikos and seconded by Eunostos Kypriakos.

Edict E1.4 I be allowed to take the whole garrison of Hierosolyma, spare of a unit of toxotai, who will be left to keep the civil order and peace of our good citizens. I will march this army and head for Sidon, where I will obtain any local garrison troops and try to amass between 6 to 8 phalanxes. I will then head North and assist whomever wishes to lead the Royal army that is just outside of Sidon. I could fight beside him though I think it would be best to flank the enemy and take a settlement from him while the Royal army deals with the main forces. Proposed by Alexandros Thraikikos and seconded by Eunostos Kypriakos.

Edict E1.5 Under a small detachment of the Royal Army of the Heir of around half a dozen units, under the command of myself, will retake the city of Paraitonion and return it to the rule of Basileus. The detachment will then turn and rejoin the Royal Army of the Heir or follow in it's wake if Edict E1.2 passes. Proposed by Bothos Lapethou Kypriakou and seconded by Meleagros Ptolemaios.

Edict E1.6 I would request a small force of around 4 units of mostly cavalry if possible, otherwise infantry will suit fine, to provide support to any general in need of help. These are trying times, and my men will be able to move freely to strike at weak points, reinforce armies and bolster garrisons, etc. Proposed by Ankhwennefer Philometer, 'the Anchor'.

Edict E1.7 On the condition that Edict E1.5 passes then the troops that have been left to Bothos Lapethou Kypriakou will become a regular army. Proposed by Bothos Lapethou Kypriakou.

Law E1.1 The Nomarchy of Upper Egypt must be created with the following provinces: Thebais, Oasis Megale and Triakontaschoinos. City of Diospolis-Megale will become the capital of Nomarchy. Proposed by Eunostos Kypriakos.

The E is for Emergency session right? I'm not sure if I'm getting the nomenclature right on this... Also I've added a little 'b' to both edicts E1.1 and E1.2 since they were changed, so as not to confuse people, then again, I might have added some confusion.

I am confused. :dizzy2:

[johnhughthom]

Leontiskos rises once again.

"I have ordered construction begun on a unit of Triereis to sink the Seleukid fleet in the Mediterranean. I will bear the cost and upkeep of the fleet, I wouldn't want to deprive any of you of your estates or treasure ships. It should be ready within the year, by the end of next year the seas should be ours, Gods willing."

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Eunostos turns towards Leontiskos..

Can I ask how exactly are you going to pay the upkeep of that fleet? As far as I know you don't have any estates or trade ships.

[johnhughthom]

Leontiskos looks confused.

"Hmm, it seems I may have miscalculated, carried a 9 when I was supposed to.... Umm, yeah. Forget that last thing I just said, all my clerks fault. That's what I get for acting all cocky I guess. I'll just go stand over here and recalculate my figures, I might be able to afford a couple of coracles"

He slips out of the chambers, red faced.

[strategos roma]

Fellow delegates,

I would like to propose the following bill:
Edict E1.8: The army currently stationed at Memphis be sent to Greece to assist our allies there against the Makedones. If possible, this force should also be used to seize any weakly guarded Seleuicd dominions in Mikra Asia.

[LeoCordis]

My dear Isigonos Kleopatrites, the army you are talking about is the Royal Army of the Heir, and has a number of edicts proposed about it. If yours was to pass it would seem the army would resemble some kind of rambling goat, going from one way to another.

Bothos now stares at Leontiskos Thraikikos and a small hint of a smile comes upon his face.

My good friend Leontiskos, I do hope you realise my proposals are for the good of the Kingdom. Unless you would see Alexandria fall to her knees benath the sandals of some upstart Kyrenians then I hold it to be a crucial decision the Council has to take. My second edict merely uses this force to be in permanent defence of the Aegyptian front. If you read the text carefully this command won't be my own, unless our good Basileus decides of course. The troops will only be 'mine' for the short amount of time it will take for me to recapture the city of Paraitonion.

I'm sure the Kleronomos Basileios wouldn't take kindly to calling his troops your own. I'm also sure my father wouldn't take kindly to being called an islander. I believe Side is in fact on a peninsula.

[Skullheadhq]

*Hastily running inside the council chamber*

Excuse me, my king, for being late. My harbor was blocked and camels don't go as fast as they used to go. I wish to propose the following edicts:

Edict E1.9: : The royal army should be moved to Hierosolymna to prepare an attack on the city of Damaskos, which is on a stratigically important location.

Edict E1.10: : Acceptance of this administrative division of nomarchies, including the naming in Ancient Greek, the positions will be empty until they need filling:
https://img268.imageshack.us/img268/9783/ebmap080plain.gif

[Myth]

Alexandros squeezed his brother's shoulder and gave him a smile before he stormed off. They had much to talk, but now was not the time. For a moment, the lad found himself thinking of their sister - she was safe here, in his Alexandrian estate. Alexandros had a duty to her as the oldest, after all.

However his attention was now focused on the newcomer - someone unknown to him personally, though he had heard of his name from somewhere or other...

"As the present governor of Hierosolymna I would welcome any and all troops sent to the town. However the Royal Army is needed up North to repel the immediate Seleukid threat. Damaskos is well defended and cannot be assaulted without great risk to the army and by proxy - to the whole North-Eastern front. It would be wiser to secure our own positions and then gradually push in the undefended Selekid lands. The riches of the East, Babylon especially, will allow us to raise an appropriately sized force to capture Damaskos."

[The Celtic Viking]

Basileus Philadelphos Ptolemaios raises his eyebrow at Alexandros.

"I am kind of surprised by your latest words. Lets see here..."

He waves a scribe to come over and he is given a piece of paper which he quickly scans through. When he finds what he's seeking for, he turns back up towards Alexandros.

"Ah, yes, Edict E1.4. It was proposed by you, wasn't it? Well, according to it, the Royal Army is supposed to confront the main enemy force in the area, which can only be interpreted as the one currently stationed in Damaskos. Now you're against going after them?

But Edict E1.4 also states that you would "amass 6 to 8 phalanxes" for yourself, but the only phalanxes available in the area belong to your Basileus' army - my army! Surely you would not have the cheek to try and steal my men from me, so where would you get these phalanxes from, may I ask?"

[Ibn-Khaldun]

If Meleagros want's the position of Nomarch then he could second the Law I proposed. Actualy, two nobles must second it...

[Skullheadhq]

When is voting commencing? We are talking while the Seleukids are on our very doorstep! What are we going to do, compose a Corpus Iuris?

[LeoCordis]

Voting commences tomorrow I believe.

I suggest you check the rules of this council, to see how long each session goes on for.

[Skullheadhq]

Voting commences tomorrow I believe.

I suggest you check the rules of this council, to see how long each session goes on for.

Ah yeah, I thought 2 days, 3 days is a little bit long.

[Myth]

Basileus Philadelphos Ptolemaios raises his eyebrow at Alexandros.

"I am kind of surprised by your latest words. Lets see here..."

He waves a scribe to come over and he is given a piece of paper which he quickly scans through. When he finds what he's seeking for, he turns back up towards Alexandros.

"Ah, yes, Edict E1.4. It was proposed by you, wasn't it? Well, according to it, the Royal Army is supposed to confront the main enemy force in the area, which can only be interpreted as the one currently stationed in Damaskos. Now you're against going after them?

But Edict E1.4 also states that you would "amass 6 to 8 phalanxes" for yourself, but the only phalanxes available in the area belong to your Basileus' army - my army! Surely you would not have the cheek to try and steal my men from me, so where would you get these phalanxes from, may I ask?"

My Basileus. The army near Sidon I proposed to march under your or your sons command, but not to claw at the stone walls of Damaskos, but to relieve Tarsos instead and perhaps meet the army stationed next to Antiocheia. Frankly I see little reason to move the other Royal army that is near Memphis and wait months for them to arrive, instead of using the force that is bordering the Seleukid territories!

As far as the forces under my command, I proposed, out of courtesy, to move the garrison of Hierosolymna North to Sidon and there combine the two in a force to aid the Royal army in pushing the Seleukids back. Surely you don't think you personally possess the armies that our great kingdom has levied? You are a Basileous of free Greeks who know the taste of democracy, not a god-king of Persia! Best keep that in mind."

[LeoCordis]

Alexandros Thraikikos I think you go to far. As the Basileus he is the leader of our Kingdom and he can exercise any right he wants. All troops are under the command of our great Ptolemy and they serve the Kingdom and the Kingdom only. The leader of the Kingdom is the great man you seek to belittle. Best keep that in mind.

[The Celtic Viking]

Philadelphos smiles towards Bothos before turning to Alexandros, his face now turning more disappointed.

"Who do you think you are, talking to me like that? I am your king! You owe me your loyalty. As the Basileus, the Royal Army is my personal army. I decide where it goes. I decide what it will do. I also decide who will command any regular army in the field. You have no more influence in this than I decide to give you. This is not a democracy, and if you don't like that, then you should get off my land immediately and never return. If you do stay, however, I expect you to apologize and to get with the program.

As it is, I will not support your Edict. Instead, I shall make a new one:

Edict E1.11: The Garrison of Hierosolyma and Sidon shall be combined and made into a Regular Army. This army will march down to reclaim Paraitonion, while the Royal Army stays in defence of Syria."

One more thing needs to be cleared up."

Philadelphos turns to a scribe standing nearby.

"You are supposed to hold expert knowledge on the law. Would it be possible, if my son doesn't show up, for me to act in his stead, deciding instead of him who shall control his army? If not, I think I might have to undo my decision and let Leontiskos be the heir again, until such time as my son feels ready to enter the political scene and fulfill his duty."

[LeoCordis]

I would ask who would command this regular army, Basileus?

[The Celtic Viking]

"I have not decided that yet. Leontiskos Thraikikos is my first choice, but I expect him to take command over my son's Royal Army. If my son actually shows up and declares this will not be, then he will take command of it. Otherwise, I believe you would be the best choice, comrade.

If this edict passes, then this would mean that the heir's Royal Army would have to leave less men behind, strengthening our positions everywhere."

[LeoCordis]

It is a good proposal. I will leave my edict standing however, on the basis that it will be the will of the council for what choice we make.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Eunostos discusses something with one of his scribes and then turns towards the Council..

My scribe told me that Edicts E1.6, E1.7, E1.8, E1.9, E1.10 and Law E1.1 do not have enough seconds. That means, when the voting starts you can't vote over them.

[Myth]

"You are right Basileus, I spoke rashly, the eagerness for battle has made me hotheaded. I took offense in your words, where I though it was implied I would steal troops from your Royal Army, but It appears I was the one who did not understand. But what of the siege of Tarsos?"

[johnhughthom]

Leontiskos returns to the chamber.

"I have checked with my scribes and I can give 1500 gold to start production on a unit on Triereis to combat the Seleukid fleet, the other 4000 would need to be met by the rest of the Council, and we would need to share the upkeep. The 4000 wouldn't necessarily need to be paid this season, we can spread the cost over most of the year. Do I need to propose an edict for us to do this, I am unsure of whether the Basileus' edict 1.11 over-rides the previous fleet related edict. We need to ensure we have enough money pledged before we begin, this would be a very costly venture and running out of money halfway through would be unnaceptable.

Though I am honoured by your faith in me my Lord, I feel we should give your son time, he has been ill and perhaps he is not ready to participate fully in state affairs. I have no desire to usurp his title, even temporarily, I have enough on my hands teaching my older brother the meaning of respect.

I'm not sure on any of the edicts, or the law, needing seconds so I will not be seconding them.

My dear Bothos, I am confused, if you are from Sidon why did your father name you as a Cypriot? Nevertheless, my point still stands, if anybody is to take a detachment to retake Paraitonion it should be me. In no way did I call the army mine, I stated I have held it in readiness for our future Basileus, I wish to hand it over to him. Still, I may have spoken harshly, I would welcome you as second in command in the event Eurgetes is unable to take his command and I lead his army in his stead."

[LeoCordis]

Strategos Leontiskos, my family comes from the town of Side, not Sidon, as I have stated. We are Asiatikons, though the family name comes from one generations old, like your own uncles I believe. The edicts shall speak the truth, for it shall decide who commands what and where the Royal Armies shall go I believe.

[The Celtic Viking]

Philadelphos Ptolemaios sighs.

"You are right, Leontiskos. I've spoken too rashly about my son and in a way he doesn't deserve. Let the record show that I apologize for it. If you do not wish to be the Kleronomos Basileios, even if only to ease the beurocratic process, then I will respect that position. Lets hope that the scribe's silence means that I can hold temporary control over it while my son is incapacitated by his illness."

(OOC: I was thinking of you, I-K. ~;))

"On the matter of the fleet, you speak wisely. The kingdom is stressed for money so we all need to chip in. This includes me, though I have none to offer immediately. I shall make up for it by putting in extra as soon as my trading investments have paid off. I don't think my Edict E1.11 has any implication on ships or ship building at all, beyond Law 4.3. I, however, will allow the Chancellor to ignore this rule and order the construction of Trieries, so it shouldn't be a problem."

Philadelphos now turns to Alexandros again.

"I see. For the sake of being clear, I was not accusing you of planning the theft of any soldier from my army; I was merely enquiring where you planned on getting those 6-8 phalanxes your edict speaks of, when there are no phalanxes in the area to get hold of, save those who belong to me or the enemy. I'd still like to know.

In regards to the siege of Tarsos, I had thought that my... was it the first or second edited edict? I forget. In whatever the actual number might be, I proposed that the heir's Royal Army would go by ship to relieve that siege. That remains my position even now."

[The Celtic Viking]

"Actually, I think we need an edict for the ships. This way it will be official: it will assure that everyone pays their bit, and if they don't, they will have the law against them. So, as you have already offered the healthy sum of 1500 - an act I assure you that I will remember - there is, as you have stated, 4000 left to pay. There are then 11 others who should pay for it, if we go by those who have spoken in the Council plus my son. This means that each of us will have to pay about 364 mnai each to cover the construction cost. When they are finished, the upkeep will cost us about 142 mnai each, you included. However, I don't think you should have to pay for the upkeep for these ships, at least not for the 8 first seasons. That is the time it would take the upkeep to level out your initial investment; during this time, the rest of us will pay 155 mnai for it. So, here it is:

Law E1.2: A navy of Trieries shall be constructed in Alexandreia. To this end, Leontiskos Thraikikos will initially pay 1500 mnai for the construction, while the remaining cost of 4000 mnai should be shared equally among the rest of the Council. This money must be paid within the first 6 months after the end of the first emergency council. Once the ships are constructed, every member of the Council will pay an equal share of the upkeep. An exception will be made for Leontiskos Thraikikos, who will pay no upkeep for the first 8 months. The cost of any repairs and/or reinforcements shall also be paid equally by all Council members.

If my son's illness hinders him from giving his necessary approval to taking money from his coffers, then I shall pay his part until he becomes healthy enough to give his consent again."

[Ashurnasirpal II]

"I support the Law E1.2 for the construction of more ships. As for the seconding of Law E1.1, I believe it is not necessary. Should the Basileos wish to create a nomarchy, it is my understanding he does not require the consent of the Council to do so. I trust his judgement in this matter."

OOC: I took the liberty, following Ibn-Khaldun's reminder, to rename Permanent Edict E1.12 to Law E1.2

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Eunostos raises his eyebrow...

What is this Permanent Edict you are speaking of?

(OOC: I changed the name Permanent Edict into the Law)

And as far as I know.. Polemarchos(from Rule 2.5) can move any idle unit or army.. This applies to your son's Royal Army as well. If Basileus runs for that office then he is allowed to move that army..

[Zim]

Of course I will be leading my army where you or the Council wishes, father. No need to appoint a proxy.




"I have not decided that yet. Leontiskos Thraikikos is my first choice, but I expect him to take command over my son's Royal Army. If my son actually shows up and declares this will not be, then he will take command of it. Otherwise, I believe you would be the best choice, comrade.
If this edict passes, then this would mean that the heir's Royal Army would have to leave less men behind, strengthening our positions everywhere."

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Eunostos looks towards Euergetes being a bit surprised how the Heir managed to get into the Council chamber so undetected..

It's good to hear your voice here, Kleronomos Basileios!

Turning towards Meleagros..

True, the Basileus can give this position to anyone. However, a Law that gives specific provinces to the Nomarchy could prevent any Nomarch in the future claiming more land than he is allowed. And you know where that leads us? Into the Civil War.

[The Celtic Viking]

"It's good to see that you're healthy and present, my son."

The Basileus turns towards Eunostos.

"Apparently I am suffering of the terrible affliction known as incompetent servants. 'Permanent Edict' is the old word for 'Law', the one we had before the reformation which you might be too young in this Council to know about. My servants apparently didn't change the word in my papers, so I used the old word instead of the new. I've now had the scribes correct it for me, so the same mistake shouldn't happen twice."

[strategos roma]

My dear Isigonos Kleopatrites, the army you are talking about is the Royal Army of the Heir, and has a number of edicts proposed about it. If yours was to pass it would seem the army would resemble some kind of rambling goat, going from one way to another.

Bothos now stares at Leontiskos Thraikikos and a small hint of a smile comes upon his face.

My good friend Leontiskos, I do hope you realise my proposals are for the good of the Kingdom. Unless you would see Alexandria fall to her knees benath the sandals of some upstart Kyrenians then I hold it to be a crucial decision the Council has to take. My second edict merely uses this force to be in permanent defence of the Aegyptian front. If you read the text carefully this command won't be my own, unless our good Basileus decides of course. The troops will only be 'mine' for the short amount of time it will take for me to recapture the city of Paraitonion.

I'm sure the Kleronomos Basileios wouldn't take kindly to calling his troops your own. I'm also sure my father wouldn't take kindly to being called an islander. I believe Side is in fact on a peninsula.

My dear friend, what you say is indeed true, nevertheless I believe that the wise men of the council would be able to choose sensibly and refrain from giving the army contradictory or unrealistic orders

Isidoros then turns to the assembled Strategou and announces his support for Edict E1.10 and Law E1.1.

[Skullheadhq]

My dear friend, what you say is indeed true, nevertheless I believe that the wise men of the council would be able to choose sensibly and refrain from giving the army contradictory or unrealistic orders

Isidoros then turns to the assembled Strategou and announces his support for Edict E1.10 and Law E1.1.

Stategoi, strategou is of the general...

[Myth]

"These phalanxes I wanted to form out of the garrisons of the city I govern and the city where you currently reside Basileos, though you have wished them to go conquer elsewhere. Who will lead them then?"

[Skullheadhq]

I support law E1.1, given that the nomarchies will be permanent.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

One of the scribes checkes his sandglass..

It's time.. clearing his throath.. The First Emergency Council is over! The time for proposing legislation has passed! Voting will begin shortly. There will be a two day period allocated for voting. Voting will end at 10pm GMT on Thursday, June 16th.

Another scribe stands forward..

Zoarchos Helios is the new Royal Treasurer!
Meleagros Ptolemaios is the new Chancellor! He also assumes the positions of Polemarchos and Trierarchos!

[LeoCordis]

Reading through the results of the voting and the appointments to positions a slight frown appears on Bothos' face. Looking up this quickly disappears into a familiar half smile.

First of all I would like to congratulate Meleagros Ptolemaios and Zoarches Helios to their appointments of Chancellor and Royal Treasurer, I'm sure they'll serve the Kingdom well.

Secondly, I have some concerns with the recent legislation passed. How does Edict E1.1b and Law E1.2 work together? I would ask the members of this council to forgive my naivity in the matter, for the ancient laws are not my speciality.

Finally, I would ask the Basileus and his son and heir the appointments to the armies of the realm. I assume the Kleronomos Basileios will be taking command of his Royal Army as stated and Leontiskos Thraikikos taking command of the new regular army. Also is it to be assumed the new Chancellor shall become the new Nomarch of the Upper Nile?

I would beg to ask if the Basileus has seen fit to appoint any more positions to certain people and if, as would be assumed, I am not one of these people, I would ask for the great honour of serving your son, Basileus, as second in command of the Royal Army, or whoever is deemed fit to command it. The privilege to be in the relief force for Tarsos would be honour upon itself.

[johnhughthom]

Leontiskos stands to address Bothos,

"Young Bothos, I don't believe the two bills are incompatible, Edict 1.1b states that anyone may build their own warfleet, though surely Croesus is reborn if any man here has the funds to do that. Law E1.2 commits us to building a fleet of Triereis, the cost to be shared amongst the council.
I do apologise in regard my ignorance of your background. In my youth I spent many an hour learning the histories of Greek families, important and minor. Unfortunately I didn't have the time to study insignificant, how should I say, peninsulars?"

[LeoCordis]

Ah, Leontiskos. I thank you for the explanation.
I'm also sure your extensive studies of our illustrious family names has served you in good stead. I will need to learn them too, I'm sure, to survive in on the battlefield.

[The Celtic Viking]

Philadelphos Ptolemaios takes a golden cup from one of his servants and lifts it in a gesture towards Meleagros.

"This drink is for you, my brother, to celebrate your election as Chancellor."

Philadelphos once more lifts it up before taking a large chug. He turns his head towards Zoarchos Helios.

"And congratulations to you too, comrade!" Another chug and the mug is empty. He puts the mug back at the servant's tray and gives a loud "Aaaah!" before turning to Bothos.

"Yes, I promised Meleagros that, should the Nomarchy of the upper Nile be established, I'd award it to him. Another reason to drink! Servant!" The servant snaps to attention. "Naah, forget about it. It'll have to wait 'till later." The servant relaxes again and backs off into the background. Philadelphos once again turns back to his brother. "Very well. I hereby grant the Nomarchy of the Upper Nile, as outlined in Law E1.1, to my brother, Meleagros Ptolemaios! May Zeus Ammon bless your governorship with both wisdom and prosperity!"

Philadelphos turns back to Bothos.

"Now, where were we? Oh yeah, the new army. Yes, it shall form under the command of Leontiskos Thraikikos, as my son will take care of his own army. I shouldn't need to make any more formal announcement for that, should I? As for other positions, I would happily award them to people, but what positions are there left for me to give? Anyone who wish to aid me in defending our Syrian holdings is of course very welcome. This includes honours such as being my second-in-command and governing Sidon*. As for serving in my son's army, that is completely up to my son himself. He is free to choose for himself in this matter."

(OOC) *: This simply means being in Sidon, not actively governing it in any more meaningful way. Just so that no misunderstanding is made here. This would be meaningful because I expect to leave Sidon if need be to defend Syria, the heir is leaving for his army and the garrison is forming the new army. If no one moves to "govern" it, I will either have to leave a unit or so behind, or recruit new ones.

[johnhughthom]

Leontiskos faces the Basileus,

"I have your leave, my Grace, to take the soldiers specified in Edict E1.11 and march on Paraitonion?"

[The Celtic Viking]

"You have. Tell their commander I said 'hi'!"

[johnhughthom]

Leontiskos bows.

"My thanks, Basileus. I will muster the army and return your city to you as soon as possible. If I see your so called brother I'll say a lot more than "hi!" It will take quite a while to march the army to Paraitonion as Naukrates' few remaining ships are already earmarked for the Kleronomos Basileus' Royal Army "

Looks to Bothos.

"Well my new friend it seems now we must part, I do so hope my extensive studies keep me alive, it would be a shame if I were never to see you again. I can only hope my Macedonian heritage, years of training and my experience of leading armies will be of some small use to me. Do say hello to your father for me, he sounds like a great man. Alas I only had a former Chancellor for a father, and Antipater blood in my veins."

Finally looks at Alexandros.

"Promise me, dear brother, that you won't annoy our uncle so much that he kills you while I'm gone. You know I don't have the patience to look after Kleopatra, she's liable to forget to eat or something equally idiotic. Oh, and don't rile up those Jews if you go back to Hierosylma, don't forget I'm stealing your garrison, so you've nobody to hide behind now."

He strides out of the chamber.

[Ashurnasirpal II]

Meleagros Ptolemaios rises to his feet as he is acclaimed Chancellor, Polemarchos and Trierarchos.

"I praise this Council for its wisdom in allowing me to administer our great Kingdom in these trying times. I shall not let any of you down, and will help Egypt raise its head in defiance to the Seleukid threat! Should any strategos require my aid as Chancellor or wish a favor from me, you have only but to ask and I will personally attend to your request.

I also thank our good Basileos, my brother, for trusting me with the affairs of Upper Egypt. I will protect these lands and hopefully see them grow as prosperous as our northern holdings. In time, I am certain Upper Egypt can recover its former glory from the time of the Thutmoses and the Ramesses.

I will go assess the situation and prepare my first report (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?136112-Reports-(Save-Game-thread)&p=2053328921&viewfull=1#post2053328921) for the council at once!"

Meleagros hobbles out of the council chambers, his wooden cast clearly visible under his tunic, the light golden patterns carved in the wood glinting as they catch the light. The new Chancellor and Nomarch wears his trademark childish grin as he exits the room.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Zoarchos Helios turns towards Philadelphos and bows..

Thank you, my Basileus!

.. then turns towards the Council...

It seems our new Nomarch have already violated his powers. Ptolemais-Theron is not part of his Nomarchy! So, his order to raise the taxes in that city and in the surrounding province should be ignored.

One more thing.. The sum that each Council member must pay in order for us to get a fleet of Trireis is 182 mnai per season during the next two seasons.

[LeoCordis]

After a slight chuckle over Leontiskos' antics Bothos stands once more.

I thank you dear Basileus for the gracious announcements of intent and positions that you have announced.

After some deliberation, I wish for a different path than that of the Royal Army. On the advice of the Chancellor I ask permission to take a fleet north and land at Side to take command of the garrison and the city for the slight defence needed there. Out of respect I would ask permission from both the almighty Basileus and Chancellor.

This obviously means just to sit there and command the troops if there is a siege.

[Myth]

"Hmph, brother I will come with you. If I can't lead the army I'll be there to make sure you don't throw yourself at an enemy spear!" Alexandros grins and grabs his brother's forearm. He leans in and whispers something in his ear, then slaps him on the back and retires from the room.

[johnhughthom]

A messenger arrives in court.

"My Lords, Leontiskos Thraikikos asks his Grace if the army you so graciously put under his command has a name. If not he would ask if he could name it the First Army of the Ptolemaic Kingdom?"

[LeoCordis]

I believe regular armies must be named in a specific way.


All Regular Armies are marked with a number and a name of the region where they were first formed: 'IV Syrian Army'

[johnhughthom]

I believe regular armies must be named in a specific way.

The messenger turns to Bothos.

"Thank you my Lord, Leontiskos was unsure that applies as half the army is from Syrian, and half from Judaea. He had intended to call it the 1st Syrian Army, then decided to seek clarification."

OOC: I know this isn't that important, just want to know what to put in my SOT.

[Ashurnasirpal II]

OOC:Sorry for Ptolemais-Theron, got it mixed up with the map of Edict E1.10 in which it was included.

[johnhughthom]

Another messenger arrives from Leontiskos.

"My Lords, Leontiskos Thraikikos notes that the Kleronomos Basileus has not made efforts to use the transport navy allocated him in the last session, he requests the vessels moved east to hasten his journey to Paraitonion in the event they aren't used."

[LeoCordis]

Bothos turns to Leontiskos' messager

I still have not received words of my request to travel to Side. I think I should be allowed the allotted time to move to the fleet before it is sent off.

OOC: I haven't been told I can do it yet and there is still a couple of hours left before the turn ends. If I don't get an answer by 20 minutes before I'll just do it. :D

[johnhughthom]

OOC: The fleet has been allocated a specific purpose in the previous Council vote, you can't just take it. Though more than that, I think it's a bad idea taking it north, with the Seleukid Triereis in the region.
I think it would be reasonable for any of the RGBs to be moved to a location they choose, obviously as a one off at the start of the game, but that would be up to I-K

[The Celtic Viking]

"I think it's a good idea to go north, Bothos. You could probably do a lot of good there. As you're not bringing an army, though, you shouldn't need any special warships to get there. If you wish, I can give you a free ride to Salamis on one of my cargo ships; from there, you must be able to get hold on some merchant vessel and sail across to Side."

OOC: The rules allow for the "teleportation" of avatars, and I think you're allowed to exercise it for this purpose.

[LeoCordis]

Thank you, Basileus, your cargo ships, though lacking in furnishings seem a perfect vessel for my journey.

I will take one immediately.

OOC: I forgot about the TP rules, thanks.

[LeoCordis]

Just to clarify, do I have permission to move the garrison of Side as I wish?

[Ashurnasirpal II]

OOC:Actually, Edict E1.2 does not prevent anyone from moving with the fleet. It simply states that during this term, the Heir and his army will go relieve or reclaim Tarsos. Unless the heir teleports to his army, there's enough time for a trip and back to Side from Alexandreia. On the other hand, it would be possible to pick up the heir with the fleet, but that would be bringing our fleet much too close to the Seleukids. I wouldn't recommend moving the heir's army by fleet until we have our new ship ready. But that's just my 2 cents. I don't know how this teleportation thing is supposed to work. Tarsos however, is probably lost, while Side can be defended if it gets a general in it.

[The Celtic Viking]

"It's good you ask, Bothos, and I will give you an answer, which everyone should listen to. To move any garrison in any of my cities, you will need my permission. For now, I will give you permission to move the garrison of Side as you wish, so long as they stay within the limits of Side's province. You must be mindful of the civil order there as well; I don't want to hear of the Chancellor being forced to decrease the taxes just because you've developed a habit of taking the garrison out on picknicks."

[LeoCordis]

I thank you Basileus for the permission. My first task if I can handle it will be to see if I can destroy the Brigands in the province, though this may prove difficult.

[The Celtic Viking]

"I don't have any intelligence reports from that area at hands here, but I have faith in your own judgement. You are clear to engage if you think you have a good chance of success; you should keep in mind though just how precarious your situation is before you make your decision to meet them in the field."

[Ashurnasirpal II]

OOC:From what I understand, any armies which isn't a regular or royal army is under the command of the Polemarchos, that would make Side's army my jurisdiction. Not that I'd contradict the Basileos. Also, what would happen if a unit is detached from a regular or royal army and left in a fort or city? Does that unit remain part of that army? Or is the army simply in need of replenishment while the unit is back under the command of the Polemarchos? I wrote this here because it pertains to what is being discussed IC, but since there's a lot of OOC, here's a link (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?136107-OOC-Thread&p=2053329474&viewfull=1#post2053329474) to the same questions in the OOC thread!

[Ibn-Khaldun]

A man enters the Council Chambers...

I am Philippos, a good friend of Zoarchos Helios, and will represent him in the Council as long as he is in Sidon.
He wanted to let the Councillors know that a Kyrenaioi army is near our border. If the Councillors, who are currently in Alexandreia with their companions, want to gain some glory and help the Kingdom then now is the best chance. It's possible to surprise attack them and make them suffer some losses. You don't have enough power to defeat them but you can cause them some casualties and thus making the life of First Syrian Army a lot easier.

[Folgore]

Ah, so Zoarchos would have us ride out against an army that outnumbers us 5 to 1 in the face of certain defeat, while an army assembled specifically for dealing with the Kyrenaioi is already on its way here..? A fine chance for glory indeed! I'm sure the other generals will be very eager to embark upon this great undertaking. Unfortunately, I'm afraid I'm going to have to pass on this one as... uhm... my horse is sick. And I'm having my armour waxed... So yeah... Next time, eh?

[Folgore]

Additionally, honourable members of the council, I wish to praise our great king for his efforts to liberate the city of Damaskos. For his efforts are noble indeed! Our spy, Ploutos Salaminios, has shown that upper Syria has been a hive of military activity for the past half year. And, a city so close to the Seleucid western capital of Antiocheia will surely be defended with great tenacity. I have no doubt, that the battle for Damaskos, which is surely soon to come, will be a great demonstration of our king's abilities as a leader.

[Myth]

It will be a test, if nothing else. A hard battle, but with much promise if won. I do have my doubts as to the costs involved in such an assault, while some towns up North and East are scarcely defended.

[The Celtic Viking]

"Thank you Timon. On that note, I would ask if the Chancellor could order Ploutos Salaminios back west again, so that I may know if there is a Seleukid relief army coming."

Philadelphos turns to Alexandros.

"It's true that they have lightly defended regions further north, but if I went after them I'd leave our eastern border completely undefended. The Seleukids in Damaskos could swarm in and go on a rampage unchecked by anyone. This would be a disaster, and I simply won't allow it. Either through starvation or direct assault, the Seleukid threat from Damaskos must be dealt with first."

[Myth]

Starvation might be better, if they foolishly sally you could crush them. Hopefully no army of worth is nearby to relieve them. Though If a small force was to attempt to intervene and make the garrison sally, you could be offered the city on a platter. I wish you luck Basileos, and may Nike and Athena grant you swift and decisive victory!

[Folgore]

Starvation?! What a ghastly proposal! We are here to liberate the poor people of Damaskos, not kill them!

[Zim]

I have been riding to meet my army before I can set sail. If another is allowed to take the fleet I will be unable to complete the edict requiring me to go north.


Another messenger arrives from Leontiskos.

"My Lords, Leontiskos Thraikikos notes that the Kleronomos Basileus has not made efforts to use the transport navy allocated him in the last session, he requests the vessels moved east to hasten his journey to Paraitonion in the event they aren't used."

[johnhughthom]

Leontiskos' messenger replies to the heir.

"Your fleet will be back in place next season, no time will be lost to you. Though my master does think it folly for you to travel by sea with a seasoned Seleucid fleet in the eastern Mediterrannean. Perhaps you should wait until our triereis have control of the seas before hazarding such a journey?"

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Philippos turns towards Timon..

And I thought that a general like you have heard of a tactic called "hit and run"! You ride there, hit them and then run before they can hit you back.. No, running is not the best word.. it's more like a "tactical withdrawal"?

[johnhughthom]

A messenger rushes into the Council chambers.

"My Lords, the Thraikikos brothers send word that they have returned Paratoinon back into our hands. They await any further intructions the Basleus may have."

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Philippos smiles..

These are great news! We have taken back province that we lost and pushed Seleukids out of Damaskos. If we can take Tarsos back and keep them away from Side then Chancellor can say that his term was successful!

[Ashurnasirpal II]

An elderly man enters the council chambers and addresses those present:

"Greetings noble dignitaries of Aegyptos, I am Appolinos, a scholar and counselor to our wise Chancellor, Meleagros, Nomarch of the Upper Nile. He sends his warmest congratulations to both our great Basileos and the mighty Thraikikos brothers for their victories in Syria and Cyrenaica. However, he also wishes to urge Euergetes, heir to our great Kingdom, to hasten his troops to Tarsos! Everyday his majesty's son does not sail towards the enemy burdens the royal treasury and our hardworking people with the heavy cost of an army camping in the middle of our lands. If this situation is not remedied at once, the Chancellor feels there will be no other choice than to call an emergency session to assign a better use to these men!"

With this, Appolinos bows and awaits the response of the nobles.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I've heard that mysterious illness have forced the son of our beloved Basileus and the heir to the throne into sick bed. I hope that these are just rumors.

A messenger enters and gives a piece of papyrus to Philippos..

It seems my master, Zoarchos Helios, decided to scout the area around Antiocheia. This is his report..
https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/EB/268zoarchos.jpg
Zoarchos' current location in an estate near Antiocheia..
https://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh311/ibnkhaldun/EB/268antiocheia.jpg
Antiocheia.

He writes..


My Basileus and Councillors,

Antiocheia is an easy target at the moment. Only one unit is guarding the city. I propose we sack it! That way we might get our economy back on it's feet. It will also destroy the main Seleukid recruitment center in the area.

Zoarchos Helios

[Myth]

Alexandros Thraikios enters the room, dirty and dust covered, and with a fresh scar on his left forearm. "I volunteer to lead whatever forces be deemed reasonable to capture Antiocheia! Another port city will do wonders for the economy of our nation!"

[johnhughthom]

A messenger arrives in court with a message for Eurgetes before he departs.

"My Lord Thraikikos states that he believes the Seleukid naval threat in the Eastern Mediterranean has been defeated. He therefore hands control of the naval units constructed to defeat them to Eurgetes, travel by sea is hazardous and pirates can seemingly spawn from nowhere. When he is safely on Anatolian soil they should be disbanded.

Oh, he also said he's off to conquer Siwa..."

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Philippos speaks..

I hope Leontiskos have not forget the ancient laws:

Players may not move avatars or armies into the territory of a neutral or allied faction without the permission of the Basileus.
Nor may they attack the settlements or armies of neutral or allied factions without a declaration of war from the Basileus, a Chancellor or a Law.

His attack against Siwa, using our 1st Syrian army, would be against those laws.

(OOC: All Eleutheroi settlements are considered neutral by default. The only exception currently is Kyrene who are at war with us.)

[johnhughthom]

Philippos speaks..

I hope Leontiskos have not forget the ancient laws:


His attack against Siwa, using our 1st Syrian army, would be against those laws.

(OOC: All Eleutheroi settlements are considered neutral by default. The only exception currently is Kyrene who are at war with us.)

The messenger looks at Philippos,

"I don't remember mentioning the 1st Syrian Army..."

[The Celtic Viking]

Philadelphos Ptolemaios coughs.

"That doesn't matter. You may not enter the territory of a neutral faction without my permission anyway."

[Ibn-Khaldun]

This reminds me.. where is Kydrogenes Epiphanes? Last time I heard of him he was on his way to Hierosolyma. As far as I know he never reached his destination. Did he crossed the border and entered Sinai?

[johnhughthom]

OOD: Rules are slightly contradictary regarding this:


Strategoi can attack Eleutheroi settlements with their Private units(and only with them) even if war has not been declared against that settlement.

[LeoCordis]

A messenger arrives in the Council chambers

I am an envoy representing the Kleronomos Basileios and speak for him.

He would like to enquire if his father wishes to assault Antiocheia and if so which direction his Royal Army would take afterwards. He suggests turning East and striking blows into the heartland of the Seleukids.

This would free up a way for the Heir's Royal Army to reclaim the treacherous Side and carry on through Anatolia, capturing the rich cities that lie there.

[Myth]

I advise care when delving in the lands past Babylon. The Seleukids hold vast areas spreading far to the East, and we must not overextend ourselves.

[Folgore]

A weary, ragged-looking messenger storms into the council chambers. Covered with sand, dust and sweat, he looks as though he has been traveling for days without rest. As he takes a short moment to catch his breath, the looks on the faces of the council members turn from bewilderment into annoyance, but before anyone can comment on the messenger's lack of etiquette, he brings out his papyrus scroll and proclaims:

"My lords, a message from my master, Timon Arrhidaeos."

While unrolling the scroll he wipes the sweat from his forehead and begins to read:

"Honourable members of the council and representatives, a terrible disaster is upon us! Rebellious armies are mustering in Heptanomis! Not a year has past since our crown prince has taken his army to Anatolia and already these revolting peasants are revolting. These thiefs, brigands, rebels and traitors are terrorising the very heart of our empire, robbing innocent traders, raiding estates and plundering our communities. What's worse is that our cities along the Nile have been left completely defenseless! We must act to stop these criminals immediately, either by raising a new army or by recalling the crown prince."

A jar of cool water is passed to the exhausted messenger. He takes a large gulp and continues:

"Additionally, a number of Jews have taken up arms against us in the state of Ioudaia. They pose no real threat to our security in the region, but trade proceeds are down by 50%! As I am currently residing in Hierosolyma, I will make it my task to hunt down each and every rebel in this state. Unless, of course, his majesty, whose army is camped in nearby Syria, wishes to intervene instead. If not, then I will raise an army with my own private funds to deal with the rebels. I ask only that I be allowed to make use of the division of pantodapoi currently stationed in Hierosolyma to complement my own forces. I await your reply."

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Philippos nods..

I am certain that my master agrees with Timon Arrhidaeos. Zoarchos Helios' estate is one of those that the rebels could attack. Meleagros Ptolemaios and Satyrion Mimyraios also have estates close to the rebel army. Must say that their leader have picked an interesting name - Aigyptios! He mocks our Basileus with that name!

[johnhughthom]

Another messenger arrives at court.

"My Lords, Leontiskos Thraikikos sends word that another band of cut throats had emerged near Paratoinon. It was but a small, ill equipped bunch of miscreants, but Leontiskos felt it would be folly to march east with another enemy at his back. The 1st Syrian was not used, his private forces defeated them, and are now at Paratoinon waiting for my Lordship to catch up and move on toward this ironically named foe. The delay will only cost us one season."

[johnhughthom]

Another messenger from Leontiskos Thraikikos arrives,

"My Lords, Leontiskos notes that Eurgetes has arrived safely in Anatolia. The triereis that the Council paid for together should now be sent to the nearest friendly port and scrapped. Their purpose has been fulfilled and Eurgetes is safely landed, we cannot afford to keep them any longer."

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Zoarchos Helios enters the Council chambers..

Firstly, I congratulate Leontiskos for his recent success in west! I really hope that he moves quickly enough to destroy that Rebel named Aigyptios! I lost half of my income this season because that Aigyptios robbed several of my grain carts to Memphis!

Secondly, I support the idea of disbanding the fleet!

Also, I hope that we can start our next Council meeting in Spring with good news from Tarsos. I hope our young Heir captures the city this Winter.

But now I'm going to the Agora.. You can find me there if you need me..

He signals Philippos to follow him and leaves the room..

[Myth]

Alexandros Thraikikos enters the hall, this time bathed and not grabbed in armour, but in a fine tunic. "I have defeated the army that spoiled the trade in Memphis and threatened to take our lands. I will now rest and recuperate the losses of my private units. Those of you who I have aided directly by eliminating the threat to your estate's trade, I will expect to aid me in the cost of retraining my private men."

[johnhughthom]

Alexandros' brother strides into the hall and gives him an annoyed glance.

"You want us to pay you for doing your duty as a member of the Royal Family?

I would have appreciated you giving me notice of your intent of attacking the rebels, I don't know if you noticed but I left you in Paratoinon and went south to further our national interests. Then I heard of these rebels and came back to help, now I find I'm not needed and have another fun desert march to look forward to. I'll assume you can handle any problems while I'm away."

He stalks back out.

[Myth]

"And nice to see you too, brother." Alexandros grins. "Annoyed that you had a girl instead of a son? Anyway Royal duties are usually fulfilled by use of Royal Armies. I have been granted no such troops but instead have used my own coin and the lives of my own men to secure the nation's peace. Perhaps I should have left the reel scum there for three or six more months, surely losing half of the trading caravans for such a period would have been a better deal for all those who have estates in Memphis, than paying for the retraining of two companies of men."

I was away from totalwar.org for a couple of days, hence the poor OOC communication.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Zoarchos had silently entered the room while the Thraikikos bros' were speaking..

Alexandros, I thank you that you got rid off that annoying rebel. However, that is all you get from me - my gratitude. Did your brother asked mnai from the Basileus when he destroyed that rebel warband near Paraitonion? No. Did he used his own private units to do so? Yes. So, I don't see why we should pay you. Also, be careful what you say!

"Perhaps I should have left the reel scum there for three or six more months, surely losing half of the trading caravans for such a period would have been a better deal"

I am the Royal Treasurer and if I want I could just lower the taxes in Delta Neilou! That means you will loose what ever mnai you get from your estates!

Zoarchos calms down..

OOC: Myth, don't take it personaly. Just saw a RP oportunity to stir things up in the Council! ~;)

[Myth]

Alexandrios waved his hand and smiled coldly.

"Of course. Next time I will let the brigands go on a rampage. You can do what you will with the taxes, I see there is little justice to be had this day! Better yet, I will soon rid you of my presence and you can all plot and scheme and thump your thumbs, and hoard your precious gold. I am truly sorry now that I chose to go out of my way to aid you, while hampering my own plans. This will be remembered and I will not make the same mistake again!"

[The Celtic Viking]

"Oh, I see! So you would take the comfort, wealth and safety provided to you by me and my kingdom, along with all the priviliges that comes with being allowed a voice here in the Council, but when it comes to defending it, you won't lift a finger unless we pay you for it?"

Philadelphos looks at Alexandros with scorn and disgust in his eyes.

"Such are the words of a mercenary, and not a Council member."

[LeoCordis]

A messenger barges through crowds of clerks and civil deputies into the council chambers.

My good councilmen.

I would report, with great pleasure that my master, the Kleronomos Basileios, has successfully taken Tarsos after the defenders rallied out with a relief force led by a great general. The general has been killed and treasonous Tarsos back in our hands. My master also took it upon himself to disperse the majority of the population from the city as punishment and to hope their devious ways will be belittled if spread through various provinces.

[Myth]

"Had you provided an army with which to defend it I'd have gladly done it uncle! But seeing as how none was granted I used my own men. I see no one here raising a voice as to why the other Strategoi did not raise troops to jump to the Kingdom's defense! In fact, If I had sat on my arse and piled up my gold like most everyone else, we wouldn't have had this conversation! But because I had troops and chose to use them for the common good, now I'm suddenly a mercenary for asking everyone directly benefited from my victory to chip in for the retraining costs!"

Alexandros's eyes burn with anger and he clenches his fists.

"I am in the right and if none of you shall admit it then being on this council loses it's meaning for me!"

[Folgore]

My dear Alexandros,

Had you notified the council of your intentions to attack, I would have gladly made my army in Memphis available to you, which, I should add, I left in Memphis specifically to counter the rebel threat. Yet, arrogant as Achilles, you ride out with your small band of horsemen without as much as a word to the council. How could we have known you would dare attack with so small a force? Do not insult us by calling us idle or unpatriotic!

Yet, I cannot ignore that you have done your country a great service and you ask not to be payed, but simply to be compensated for the men you lost while defending our empire. Though my imports from Memphis are limited and I was not greatly affected by the rebels in Heptanomis, it would pain me to see these brave deeds go unacknowledged. (Indeed I choose my words carefully here, members of the council, I would not say unrewarded, as it is not a reward that Alexandros seeks!) So, I will give you 700 mnai, which I estimate to be roughly half your reinforcement costs. As for the other half, it will be up to the consciences of Zoarchos and Leontikos whether you will receive it or not.

[Myth]

Alexandros cooled down and grabbed Timon's forearm. Perhaps the comparison to Achilles, who was Megas Alexandros's own hero, struck the lad on a soft spot (a spot called vanity, which many a young men had).

"Brave Timon, I thank you for your kind words. The reason for my hasty departure was because things move slowly here and it would have taken time to assign a leader for that army, out of the usual five candidates, and it would have taken him time to march to the army and yet more time to march with the army to the threat. The rebels could have easily raided someone's estate if given such freedom. I thank you for your generosity but cannot in right accept the gold as you were in no way threatened by these rebels. I wish to split the cost of retraining in three between the wise Zorachos and my headstrong younger brother. From you I will only take the wisdom of a more reserved tone."

[Folgore]

Do reconsider, Alexandros. The Hierosolyma-Memphis trade has been most profitable to me and 700 mnai is but a a small amount, if it helps to preserve the peace in the council.

[johnhughthom]

A small girl walks into the chambers beside an older man. She looks apprehensively around her, before smiling shily at the Basileus and waving to Alexandros. The man with coughs nervously, then speaks.

"Uh, a message from Leontiskos Thraikikos my Lords. Ahem."

He reads.

"I have sent my eldest daughter, Archetime, to court to be my representative whilst I am away. I am sure some of you may think a two year old girl unsuited to the position. However, in the few days I had back home recently, I noticed she had displayed behaviour that made her a perfect candidate for the Council, she likes to stamp her foot on the ground and demand what she wants. When she doesn't get it she whines about how unfair life is and sulks for days..."

The little girls grabs the parchment and pouts.

"I do not sulk for days, who said I do? I'm going to tell daddy to cut his head off!"

Pouting, the girl storms out of the hall, closely followed by the man.

[Ashurnasirpal II]

The doors to the Council Chambers open wide as Meleagros Ptolemaios, Chancellor for the past few years, arrives to submit his report. The man walks with his characteristic limp, his wooden cast sending sharp echoes through the shaded halls. He is followed by a small Egyptian native that scurries after him carrying bundles of scrolls and flanked by a richly adorned priest of Zeus-Ammon. Clearing his throat Meleagros begins:

"Fellow councilors, I am pleased to finally meet you again after three very successful years for our Kingdom. When I first took office, we were beset on all sides by enemies, but today, I am proud to say that by your actions we have managed to pull through a difficult storm.

First of all, our Basileos and his son have reconquered Damaskos and Tarsos and are now putting siege before the Seleukid's western capital that should fall within a season's time.

Secondly, we have beaten back their fleet through generous personal contributions, especially from Leontiskos Thraikikos.

Leontiskos Thraikikos has also been capital retaking the city of Paraitonion.

Finally, though we had to deal with some very minor rebellion and the loss of Side through Seleukid gold and treachery, our conquests and my efforts to upgrade our economic structures and to sign economic treaties has seen our treasury return to profitability.

As we now prepare to discuss the future of our Kingdom, I shall set down a few ideas to orient our deliberations:

1- Polyxenos Salaminios, our diplomat who has been traveling east, should continue in this direction and reach the Kingdom of Bactria who could prove a valuable ally against the sons of Seleukos;
2- Aiglanor Karanites, our new spy, currently in Edessa, should continue to train on easy assignments to sharpen his skills;
3- Our current Kerkuroi fleet should be either reinforced or disbanded, potentially, scrapped to permit the creation of stronger ships.

As for overall strategy, our position, though stronger, is still not secure. Two paths lay before us: either we push further into Seleukid territory in an attempt to quickly topple them or we try to sign peace with the Arche Seleukia and consolidate our base, namely, Numidia and Kyrenaia.

Personally, I suggest the second option. Though an all out race for Seleukid land might be tempting and quite rewarding, we risk spreading our forces quite thin. On the other hand, a slower approach would permit us to then assault the Seleukids with more armies and on more fronts, from a solid base in Egypt.

For that reason, I propose:

Law 2.1: That a Nomarchy be created in the Kyrenaica, first based on Paraitonion, but with the ultimate goal of including Kyrene and Ammonion, with Kyrene as capital. This Nomarchy would be headed by Leontiskos Thraikikos should he accept, or should he refuse, by a strategos named by our Basileos. The new Nomarch would be charged with completing the Nomarchy's conquest using the 1st Syrian Army.

Edict 2.1: That the first Syrian Army be retrained and reinforced to a total of 8 units.

Law 2.2: That the Nomarch of Upper Egypt be charged with the conquest of the southern settlements and that an army of 6 to 8 units be created for that purpose. The conquered settlements could be initially added to the Nomarchy, with the goal of eventually creating a separate Nomarchy in the south.*
*As Nomarch of Upper Egypt, I would most likely name another councilor strategos for this mission.

Finally, I would represent myself for the position of Chancellor, but would prefer if other councilors dedicated themselves to the more military positions of Trierarchos and Polemarchos, for I do not intend to command armies in the field.


This is my report and these are my propositions for the Kingdom. May Zeus-Ammon, blessed be his name, inspire our deliberations!"

[johnhughthom]

Leontiskos stands.

"Well said uncle, though I feel you overstate my role in our successes and forget my brother's. He may well have annoyed most of us with his demands, but none if us can deny the brilliance and bravery he showed defeating that rebel, Aigyptios, who threatened the heart of our growing domain."

[Paul D]

"Uncle, why do you desire for us to conquer the Kingdoms of Kush and Meroe? These states have lately been on quite reasonable terms with us, we have no reason to make war upon them. Nor do we have the resources to do so.

In addition, if we stop to consolidate our efforts against the Seleukids, we will lose the initiative. The Seleukids will not sit by and wait for us to regroup, they will attack us relentlessly when we stop our offensive campaign against them. Someone should lead an expedition into Babylonia and capture the Seleukid heartland, so we can force them to surrender and finally end this feud."

[johnhughthom]

Leontiskos stands once more.

"Hi coz, good to see you here. You are quite correct to worry about our resources, especially if we are going to be fighting on three fronts, as Meleagros wishes. Therefore I propose a slightly different strategy to Law 2.1. I had already planned to attack the region in question, and have permission from the Basileus. However, I feel I can conquer the potential Nomarchy without the use of state troops. If, that is, my brother wishes to help me. I have no wish to be a Nomarch, Alexandros would be a better choice. I suggest then, that the 1st Syrian become the army specified in Law 2.2 and Alexandros and myself be given free reign to create the Nomarchy of Kyrenaica, with a joint command and Alexandros to become Nomarch when the job is complete. This would be a lot cheaper than the strategy suggested by our Chancellor, though it would require Alexandros approval. I don't think there is any need to faff about with laws and edicts for it, just declare the 1st Syrian the Army of the Nomarchy of Upper Egypt and let the Thraikikos family do the rest."

[Ashurnasirpal II]

Meleagros laughs:

"Haha! That could be an idea. The Thraikikos are certainly a capable family! And headstrong! I am willing to reformulate my proposals to match this is Alexandros approves."

[LeoCordis]

I believe that no money and troops should be wasted on foolish pursuits in Africa. First of all the Royal Armies should be completely combat ready, as they are the most capable forces of finishing the war in a timely manner. I myself will be using personal funds to upgrade the abilities of my army.

I then suggest that my father marches for the Seleukid heartland to capture the profitable and grand cities of Seleukeia and Babylon. My Royal Army could head in a westerly direction and clear out the Seleukid strongholds in Anatolia. If both of these thrusts are successful it will be a big blow to the enemies economy and territorial possessions and would enable us to continue the war in anyway we see fit or demand a profitable peace.

As for the 1st Syrian, I'm sure it could be put to better uses. If the Thraikikos family wishes to use personal troops and funds to conquer provinces then so be it. I would not wish to see our own troops used in such a fashion with such a formidable foe on our northern border.

[The Celtic Viking]

The doors of the Council opens and in steps a group of people headed by Basileus Philadelphos Ptolemaios himself. To the right and behind of him can be seen a man who some may recognize as the same man who had brought the message that Damaskos had fallen; to his left and behind is another man, unrecognized in the council, who is large and imposing, with watchful eyes scanning every direction. Heading straight for his seat, he his met by a clerk who hands him a paper, which he reads as soon as he has sat down. The other two men take places standing behind the throne as they had walked.

[The Celtic Viking]

When Philadelphos has finished reading, he looks up and eyes the Council. Surprised that it has fallen completely silent, he looks around to his aides and advisers to see if they are any wiser to the situation. When none of them seem to understand what's going on, Philadelphos rises from his chair and salutes the Council. Taking a couple of steps forward, he starts talking.

Gentlemen! As the situation stands right now, no laws or edicts have received enough seconders to pass to the voting stage; however, I have proposed some Rule Changes that still need to be voted on. I will also challenge my dear brother and nominate myself for Chancellor, and since no one else has done it, I will nominate myself for Polemarchos and Trierarchos as well. With no contest, I will automatically assume the latter to positions without the need of an election.

With this said, I announce that the first phase of this session is concluded! The voting phase will begin shortly.

[The Celtic Viking]

Philadelphos Ptolemaios, after learning the result of the vote, once again stood up to address the Council.

Comrades, friends, fellow Council members - I thank you for entrusting me the honour of replacing my brother as Chancellor! With the splendid job he has done, I have my work cut out before me if I shall live up to his legacy. However, I assure you that I shall do my utmost to do so, and with your help, I believe I can do it. I will do my very best to increase the prosperity of our kingdom and to secure the borders we currently hold. As many of you, my brother perhaps the most, may know already, during his Chancellorship, many civilians in and around Syria have been very opportunistic, unreliable and even to the brink of being outright rebellious. I pledge to quell this unrest and to stabilize the region before my term is over.

With this, I shall retire to the tavern before I head back to Syria, unless of course any of you fine nobles here have any questions or requests of me that cannot wait.

[johnhughthom]

A messenger arrives at court, dusty from many days riding.

"Lords of Egypt, I bring a message from Leontiskos Thraikikos,

Basileus and friends, I hereby hand over the town of Ammonion and surrounding territories, mainly sand and rocks, to our great and glorious Basileus.

Leontiskos Thraikikos."

He leaves the court.

[The Celtic Viking]

Basileus Philadelphos Ptolemaios:

"Excellent! Then I shall reinstate him as the commander of the 1st Syrian Army. He may let them retrain and restock in Syria as planned, or he may order them in another direction, as he deems fit.

It should also be recognized that for his efforts to the kingdom and to his king, Leontiskos Thraikikos has now earned the rank of Strategos Hetairos! Let all men of the Council treat him with due respect."

[Paul D]

A courier arrives at the council room, accompanied by an attendant

Lysimachos Ptolemaios's personal clerk unrolls the papyrus scroll, and reads;

"My kinsmen and fellow councilmen. I write to you now having recently departed with my new model navy to Krete. It is not uncommon knowledge that Krete is a major haven for smugglers, mercenaries, pirates, and other unlawful men from around the Mediterranean. Therefore, my personal advisors and I have decided to embark on a military expedition to Krete to ensure that it will no longer be a land that sows lawlessness. With the navy marines I have personally commissioned for the past few years, I will rid the region of the Kretan piratical threat. In addition, I have been informed by our allies in the Hellenic League that they currently have a military force on the island who have been rather uncomfortably marooned for several years. They have agreed to assist my naval forces in capturing Krete, on the condition that we provide them with transport back to Hellas."

[Paul D]

Several weeks later, another ship docks at Alexandreia's famed port. Another courier goes to the council chamber, and says he has another message from Lysimachos Ptolemaios.

"I have assessed the situation in Krete and have decided not to go with my original plan. I will instead set sail for the Hellenic mainland, and will make diplomatic arrangements with our allies there. I will also go to the Cape Tainaron to recruit some of its famed mercenaries before I embark again for Krete. I will spend six months in Hellas before I depart, so if any matters concerning me arise in the council, I urge you to send word."

[Folgore]

Honourable members of the council and representatives,

I have moved my army into Koile Syria and set up camp there, with the intention of moving east into enemy territory. Palmya is not protected by walls and should make for a good target, provided its garrison is not too strong for my humble group of soldiers. To find out enemy troop strength, I propose moving our spy near Edessa south to scout the town of Palmyra. He need not enter the city, but a survey of enemy forces from the outside could prove very valuable.

[The Celtic Viking]

Basileus Philadelphos Ptolemaios:

Unfortunately, I am planning on moving west with my army on a new campaign into Mikra Asia and I need that spy for myself. However, this does not mean that I am deaf to your needs either, for I have ordered the training of a new spy. He should be ready for duty now in Damaskos; you may use him as you see fit this winter, including sending him on missions that might result in his death.

[The Celtic Viking]

Hermokrates enters the Council chambers, hurries up to the empty seat of Philadelphos and hands a letter to a scribe. He then turns and addresses the Council.

Dear Council members, I come on behalf of Basileus Philadelphos Ptolemaios. He is not able to be here just yet, but he has given me simple instructions and the power to speak for him on simple matters until he arrives. He has also given me authority to declare that the new session opened.

And so I shall do now. The Third Council Session is now open! Make your proposals, discuss them and second as needed - and don't forget to nominate yourself for any governmental position you would like to have! It will last for three days, and be closed on 21:40, Tuesday, 9th of August. After that two days of voting will follow. May the session begin!

[strategos roma]

Gentlemen, I apologise for my long absence. In fact, I have gone into the lands of the Galatians in the north. During my journey, I have discovered that the natives there are not only good warriors but are also good friends of us. Therefore, I propose the following edict:

Edict E3.1: An army will be sent north to liberate the natives and incorporate their rich country into the Ptolemaic dominions.

[Folgore]

I second this edict.

[The Celtic Viking]

Basileus Philadelphos Ptolemaios enters the Council. He has an cheerful smile on his face as he greets Hermokrates and takes his seat.

Gentlemen! At the beginning of my term as chancellor, I made a vow to stabilize Syria, which upon my taking this responsibility, was in a borderline rebellious mood. This I have done. Furthermore, my term has also seen the capture of Antiocheia, the routing of several Seleukid armies and a steady growth of the kingdom's coffers. Alexandreia has hugely profited from this, but that has not been at the expense of the more periphery regions. Nay, there is not a corner of our kingdom that I have not given attention to, and though one always wish one could give more, there is currently no way to call my term anything but a great success. I do hope that doesn't sound too self-congratulatory; I am merely stating the facts, even when the facts work in my favour.

With this in mind I expect no objections when I announce this early in that I shall be assuming the position of Polemarchos.

Hermokrates whispers something in Philadelphos' ear. Slightly surprised, Philadelphos turns his head towards Isigonos Kleopatrikes.

Ah, good to see you back, comrade! I regret I cannot support your edict, though, for the simple reason that, as it is stated, it would warrant an attack on anyone north of us! You must rewrite it to be less general and more specific or I see no other option than to vote against it. Liberating the Galatians is otherwise something I am sympathetic to.

[strategos roma]

My Basileus, thank you for your kind words. The army need not trespass on neutral territory; we shall march north from our bases in Cillicia and liberate our brave and loyal friends from tyranny!

[The Celtic Viking]

You missed my point, which is that this edict would warrant an attack on anyone to our north. It's not about trespassing on neutral territory, but the surrender of control over diplomacy by this council and me to any man with a stick and shield; it's a step towards anarchy, and would put our kingdom on a destructive course towards its own doom. I will not allow that to happen.

[johnhughthom]

Thraikikos whispers to Apollonios beside him.

"I trekked all the way through the desert for this..."

[The Celtic Viking]

Philadelphos yawns.

As interesting and... productive... as this session has been, it is soon drawing to a close. I think I shall make some last minute proposals then. The first one is merely a more properly stated edict to get Isigonos's through to the ballot box.

Edict 3.2: An army shall be sent to liberate the Galatians and install them as our friends and allies.

The second proposal is more serious. The problem is my brother. The way he has been running his nomarchy is under all kinds of criticism. In fact, he hasn't been running it at all! During his reign, the land that he has control has fallen into stagnation, and while I was Chancellor I was forced to see so many new opportunities get squandered because my brother could not be bothered to take care of his responsibilities. There is much opportunity of economic expansion in his Nomarchy, and if we are to keep up with our enemies we cannot afford to let it go to waste. Therefore I propose this my own edict:

Law 3.1: The Nomarchy of the Upper Nile, as established by Law E1.1, shall be transferred from Meleagros Ptolemaios to anyone of the Basileus's choice. If no suitable person for it can be found, it shall be dissolved.

I also have a rule change to make. In the current draft of our constitution, power #3 of the Basileus power #2 of the Kleronomos Basileios seem to be worded in such a way as to say that they must have 20 units in them. This was not the intention of RC 2.3, and would unnecessarily strain our economy. This is the reason why I propose the following Rule Change.

Rule Change 3.1: The changes made by RC 2.3 shall be undone. Instead, an additional power shall be added for both the Kleronomos Basileios and the Basileus, saying that they can command an unlimited number of men.

That will make the clarification that RC 2.3 was intended to do, without creating the unnecessary economic burdens as we are under now.

There was a minor mistake in RC 2.1 as well, which I will propose to rectify here.

Rule Change 3.2: In rule 1.4, just after the part that was added by RC 2.1, it should be further clarified that all Eleutheroi settlements are considered independent from each other, and that every individual eleutheroi settlement should be treated as any other faction.

Lastly, since no one else has shown any interest in being Chancellor, I shall take it upon myself to be Chancellor once again.

With these propositions made, I now declare this session to be finished. The voting period shall commence shortly.

[johnhughthom]

Leontiskos' eyes flick open at the final proposal.

"I take it that will have no effect on our, "little agreement" on the provinces west of Egypt, uncle?"

[The Celtic Viking]

"Rest assured, dear nephew, for I have not forgotten it, and my word is still gold. The rule change you refer to makes no real change to what it was before; it's only a clarification that needed to be made. I still enjoy the right to declare war and sanction any attack on anyone I like, and nothing that has been proposed would have any kind of impact on our 'little agreement', as you put it."

[Folgore]

Honourable members of the council,

These are dire times for the empire! A huge Seleucid army has lain siege to the city of Antiocheia. Our garrison force consists mainly of light troops and will surely be annihilated when the enemy assaults the walls. Is there anyone who can come to their aid in time?

My army is required to keep the peace in Palmyra. These rebellious dogs would surely revolt if I left. I therefore request two things of the council. Firstly, that it raise a garrison for Palmyra in Sidon and Damascos. If two Pantodapoi units are levied in both cities, the unit from Sidon can go to Damascos and the three units in Damascos can go to Palmyra. Secondly, I withdraw my request for walls around Palmyra. The Seleucids seem to have lost interest in the city and have ignored it completely so far. It would be far better if a temple was erected, to help subdue the population's discontent, so my army can be on the move again. By attacking to the east, I hope to tie down as many Seleucid soldiers as possible to help relieve pressure on our cities.

[The Celtic Viking]

Basileus Philadelphos Ptolemaios:

"I have raised men in those cities as well as Palmyra itself to see to it so you can go and deal with this Sarpedon Syriakos. Should you feel the need for it, I will authorize the hiring of one band of mercenaries to accomplish this task on the Kingdom's payroll. In fact, I authorize you to leave Palmyra to its fate and take the garrison soldiers with you if you need it; Antiocheia is by far more important than a small, desert town."

Philadelphos' face now turns grave and his voice turns low, filled with sadness and disappointment.

"There is another problem that we're facing, and sadly that problem has a name. Lysimachos Ptolemaios. My son. I sent him a warning as soon as he broke the holy law of our kingdom, stepped onto foreign land without my permission, and attacked a neutral faction, the Kretans, without ever even seeking permission to do so from either me or this Council. I told him to immediately break off the siege and to leave the island, or he would have to be punished. He summarily ignored this warning, and instead assaulted and occupied Kydonia.

As he is my son, some may fear partiality from me if I made the sentence myself, and so I invite you, members of the Council, to voice your opinion. How shall we deal with my son's crimes? I shall of course send for him to explain himself, as you may want to hear him out before you judge him."

[Folgore]

"I have raised men in those cities as well as Palmyra itself to see to it so you can go and deal with this Sarpedon Syriakos. Should you feel the need for it, I will authorize the hiring of one band of mercenaries to accomplish this task on the Kingdom's payroll. In fact, I authorize you to leave Palmyra to its fate and take the garrison soldiers with you if you need it; Antiocheia is by far more important than a small, desert town."
I fear my army is no match for that of Sarpedon. I have no heavy cavalry and my phalanx is down to three quarters of its strength. It will be difficult to deal with his cavalry. The garrison troops are of little help, though some heavy, hard-hitting mercenaries could turn in balance in our favour. Additionally, our spies report that he has already finished enough siege equipment to attempt an assault this winter.

But, if this is your wish, your highness, I will free Antiocheia or die trying.


Philadelphos' face now turns grave and his voice turns low, filled with sadness and disappointment.

"There is another problem that we're facing, and sadly that problem has a name. Lysimachos Ptolemaios. My son. I sent him a warning as soon as he broke the holy law of our kingdom, stepped onto foreign land without my permission, and attacked a neutral faction, the Kretans, without ever even seeking permission to do so from either me or this Council. I told him to immediately break off the siege and to leave the island, or he would have to be punished. He summarily ignored this warning, and instead assaulted and occupied Kydonia.

As he is my son, some may fear partiality from me if I made the sentence myself, and so I invite you, members of the Council, to voice your opinion. How shall we deal with my son's crimes? I shall of course send for him to explain himself, as you may want to hear him out before you judge him."
Your son has proclaimed Kydonia and Kreta in your name, your highness, and he has used only his personal ships and troops. Yet, interfering in the affairs of the Greeks may bring unforeseen problems for our empire in the long term and holding Kreta may cost the empire more than it is worth. And of course, the law is sacred. This is indeed a troublesome affair...

[The Celtic Viking]

"It's not just that he first broke the sacred law, but that he got a warning for it which he completely ignored. To let him off now would effectively be saying that following the law is entirely optional, in which case it ceases to be law and we would now be living in an anarchy. That is what I want to avoid; I do not take any pleasure in seeing my son being punished.

As for the Antiocheia situation..." Philadelphos sighs heavily. "It is regrettable. You and your soldiers have done a lot, and a heavy fight is upon you. Maybe it is not winnable, but at least it should be easier take on them now, outside of the walls, when you have the aid of our men in Antiocheia, than it will be to take them on when they have the walls to protect them. Should you fail, though, I would rather you escaped with your life so you could come back and fight again. Then we would have the time to gather a stronger army to really see it through."

[Folgore]

Your highness, may I have permission to use our spy in Edessa to assess the strength of Sarpedon's army?

[The Celtic Viking]

"You may."

[Paul D]

A message arrives from Lysimachos Ptolemaios, regarding past events:

It has been two years since I have seen any of you in person. I have spent much time abroad, and have spent much time learning the customs of the western Hellenes. As you know, embarked on what was originally a diplomatic mission to our allies in Greece. What transpired here on Krete was manifestly not a diplomatic mission, but it was based on diplomatic discourse. While visiting our allies in Sparta, they told me of their long conflict with the numerous pirates and villains on Krete, who had been harrying their, and other regional powers's merchant flotillae. In addition, their king, Areus Agiados, had been unpleasantly holding out in Krete for almost a decade- A sea storm scattered his fleet, and none had heard from him for a long time. On my journey back, My ships were attacked by the Kretans, and many of our sailors and marines were injured. So, I landed on Krete to try to find our allies and help them defeat the Kretans. Originally, I intended for our allies to take possession of the town of Kydonia and the surrounding country, and that is why I have sent this message to you. I realized that in my impetuosity I ignored orders. But I did not do so out of selfish vainglory. I wanted to prove to our allies that we are not entirely lost in our war with the Seleukids, or other eastern ventures. That we still wished to see them prosperous and safe, and that we have not abandoned them due to our other ambitions.

My occupation of Kydonia is assuredly provisional. I request that we send a Diplomat to Greece to arrange for Kydonia to be transferred to the Hellenic League. Once this has been done, I will sail back to my father's lands.

[Folgore]

Your Royal Highness, honourable council members and family.

I have retaken the city of Antiocheia from the Seleucid invader. Our domination of the eastern Mediterranean is once again assured. They have seriously damaged some of our buildings in this city when they assaulted it however and they require immediate repairs. Additionally, I would recommend the Galatians I hired to be sent away again. They have done their duty and they have done it well, but they are too expensive to keep around for garrison duty.

[Folgore]

Honourable members of the council,

I have defeated the Seleucid invasion aimed at Antiocheia, by re-taking the city and crushing any remaining Seleucid units in and around Syria.

Now, my own personal army is once again ready to take to the offensive. However, the situation in the east is precarious. My army is all that stands between the unwashed Asian hordes and our prosperous cities along the Mediterranean. Our enemy is both to my north, in Mazaka and to the east, in Edessa. I do not view Palmyra as being a threat since the town has sworn its allegiance to the Arabians. Indeed it may prove a useful buffer between ourselves and the Seleucids. Edessa has been used frequently as a staging point for attacks into our empire. I was attacked by an army from Edessa when I laid siege to Palmyra and the army that took Antiocheia came from Edessa as well. Edessa is also closer to Antiocheia. Should the Seleucids counter by striking at Antiocheia from the north, I can return to the city in time to prevent it from being taken.

So, if it please the council, I shall assemble my armies and march off towards Edessa tomorrow.

[Folgore]

I have taken Edessa. I request the council raise a garrison for this city, so that I may take my army south to Palmyra to reclaim it.

I also request a provisional military government is established in Edessa and that an Agora is built in Salamis. The increased goods that it will offer us will greatly increase our profits from our merchant fleets. Additionally, it may be wise to recruit an assassin to rid us of those Seleucid "diplomats" who bribe our troops and our settlements.

[Hamata]

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[The Celtic Viking]

Basileus Philadelphos steps into the Council, and before he sits down he - seeming in haste - announces that:

The Fourth Council Session has begun! It will last for three days, until 12:00 GMT on Monday 19th of September.

"I would like to notify all that I will not be running for Chancellor this term, and will leave that honour to someone else."