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LET IT BE CLEAR that I am accepting all late-comers into this tournament. Normally this would not be true but this is why this is bolded and in red, to make it obvious. So please join if you'd like even if you are only reading this for the first time in the middle of July.
First and foremost I would like to apologize to the community for creating this thread later than I normally would. It is my aim to post these sign-up threads for the monthly tourneys (which after the month begins become the battle report threads, if you will) two weeks in advance of the respective month. In other words, halfway into the previous month's tourney I try to create these threads to give players ample time, half a month, to become aware of the tournament and register. So I beg your pardon for this delay. Without further ado...I give to you the EB Online Tournament: 2011 July.
Europa Barbarorum Online Tournament 2011 July
Point System
A very straightforward point system will be used. For each win, you gain one point. For each loss, you lose one point. NO TEAM GAMES.
There are two sets of points. Each player has his own point count. The second point count is the factional point count. Each faction has a number of wins and a number of losses equivalent to the total wins and losses of all players using that faction during that tourney month. Points only are counted for every month. There are no rollover points.
Signing Up
Threads like these must be set up one or two weeks prior to the beginning of the tourney. Registrations will not be accepted after the start of the month. Let this be an example. To sign up for the tourney, reply to this post with your faction of choice. And I mean your final choice of faction. No changes will be allowed mid-way through the tourney. Once it begins, you're set. The only option you will have is to opt-out of the tourney (that is also final; no opt-out and then resume; if you have to have a week off, that's fine, but don't "fold your cards" unless you're completely sure).
Note: On Hamachi and in-game you must use the same name you use on The Guild. This is to avoid confusion. If you have a really long name, like "Hannibal Khan the Great", and you choose to use usernames like Hannibal Khan, that's fine. A shortened version of a long name is fine as long as it is recognizable.
Replays
You must upload and submit replays by posting links to the replays here in the form of a reply. Remember to state who you played against and who the winner was. Only winners are allowed to post replays so as to avoid duplicates. Thank you.
Jury
Every month, the tourney will have not only participating players but also jury members. Jury members cannot double as players in the same month, and players cannot double as jury members in the same month. The Jury is a board of a maximum of 9 members that adjudicate cases of conflict and protest. The minimum size of the Jury is 3 because it takes the agreement of 3 Jury members to come to a final verdict on who the winner was in special cases and whether cheating took place in protests for disqualification (DQ, wherein the game is not counted toward gain or loss). Three cases of cheating and the player is removed from that month's tourney, and his score contribution removed from the factional score as well. To be a Jury member you must state below that you wish to be so. Remember: This means you will not participate as a player and will solely make yourself available to review replays for cases of protest and conflict. There presumably won't be too many of these, so it shouldn't be much of a problem! All Jury members are respected and admired for their sacrifice. Thank you all.
And that's about it. If you want more of the nitty-gritty details, such as rules, what to do, what not to do, what to expect, etc., visit the website (it's a must-read for even the oldies). Find it at www.ebonline.tk (http://www.ebonline.tk/). Use the contact button (links to our email: contact@ebonline.tk) for any concerns, questions or suggestions.
Networks
EB Online #1 (non-tournament)
Network ID: 031-664-896
Password: eb
EB Online #2 (tournament)
Network ID: 041-531-937
Password: eb
EBOT 2011 July Score Report Schedule
12 July 2011
Info
https://i.imgur.com/rHjzM.png
Scores
https://i.imgur.com/o6WIX.png
21 July 2011
Info
https://i.imgur.com/4OJoa.png
Scores
https://i.imgur.com/Ij7NI.png
1 August 2011 (Final Results)
Info
https://i.imgur.com/UkpKC.png
Scores
https://i.imgur.com/tisPz.png
antisocialmunky
06-27-2011, 14:36
I'm be KH. I haven't had much time to play them in June due to school/work.
Brave Brave Sir Robin
06-27-2011, 16:38
Sign me up as Aedui.
I don't have time to play or jury, which makes me very sad, due to working on EB2, but I do have a youtube account and I would be willing to host any games you guys can send me, send them preferably as a standalone video format such as avi, mp4, etc... as I may not have time to record any that are sent as replay files, though I will try.
To send them, just upload to a hosting site and post the link here, or pm me for an email address if you need one.
Edit: If I do find the time to record replay files uploaded here, I may even try to cast them, that could be fun.
Cheers Tanit. Always our EB team member and multiplayer supporter.
EDIT: I will be accepting latecomers for July. Has to do with people's schedules and from discussing with people from different regions of the globe, it seems reasonable to accept all, as some may only be able to start mid-way.
-Stormrage-
06-28-2011, 14:13
Stormy will be fighting as Saka, leading them to victory
Youd better. If I see Saka go -4 your dead :D
-Stormrage-
06-28-2011, 16:12
LOL :D
antisocialmunky
06-28-2011, 21:20
Youd better. If I see Saka go -4 your dead :D
I think I did institute a 1 time switch policy when I ran these things :]
I'll continue playing as Baktria. They're always the best faction to me haha (especially with this new edu ;))
-Stormrage-
06-29-2011, 17:50
good you'll die together :p
The Celtic Viking
06-29-2011, 18:43
I'll go as Arverni this time.
I'll participate but I do not know yet which faction to choose. As my usage of aedui seems to have motivated some others to chose the gauls I'll change my faction probably.
gamegeek2
06-30-2011, 03:51
For those who haven't seen the new EDU (it will be released tomorrow), a few things to aid your decisions:
1. Cavalry secondary weapons are better.
2. Parthia got a bigger discount on cavalry, it was 15% now it's 20%.
3. Hayasdan got a bigger discount on cavalry, their cav costs are reduced by 15%.
4. "Greeks" (I mean non-successor ones) get 5% off hoplite costs now.
5. "Successors" get 5% off noble cavalry costs.
6. All elite infantry units except four (Gaesatae, Tindanotae, Dubosaverlacica, and Dosidataskeli) regular units and the three infantry generals now have a base unit size of 40 (that means 80 men on large and 160 on huge). Every one of these had a cost altering.
antisocialmunky
06-30-2011, 04:18
Would be nice if militia hoplites were size 100.
-Stormrage-
06-30-2011, 10:56
would be nice if hoplites had a sword or something as secondary. BTW Good Job on Elite thing YAAAY I've been waiting for this 80 men elites :D
Burebista
06-30-2011, 14:51
Maybe make Phalanxes 100 men? I mean , just look at what the players are using , Pantodapoi Phalangitai is way too exploitable.
-Stormrage-
06-30-2011, 15:20
just one issue, i;ll add to burbista's case, now There are 120 man phalanx units out there, correct? and what are we given to defend our selves against 120 man phalanxes? 60 man slingers with 1 missile attack value. Ok i know they have AP, but even if they have AP, you cant give them only 60 men and 1 attack value and expect them to do much. why do slingers have AP, becuase they are meant to take out armoured units, they are meant to kill phalanx so give them more damage, i know what you guys are thinking "your thinking they will be Over powered , well dont you think 1 attack is underpowered?
Bottum line is: Slingers are Horribly under powered due to giving them the least amount of men in the missile class(only 60) and on top of that they only get 1 or 2 attack, and only one of them gets 3 attack. thats just ridiculous even if they have AP, the AP trait can only do so much.
Brave Brave Sir Robin
06-30-2011, 15:43
just one issue, i;ll add to burbista's case, now There are 120 man phalanx units out there, correct? and what are we given to defend our selves against 120 man phalanxes? 60 man slingers with 1 missile attack value. Ok i know they have AP, but even if they have AP, you cant give them only 60 men and 1 attack value and expect them to do much. why do slingers have AP, becuase they are meant to take out armoured units, they are meant to kill phalanx so give them more damage, i know what you guys are thinking "your thinking they will be Over powered , well dont you think 1 attack is underpowered?
Bottum line is: Slingers are Horribly under powered due to giving them the least amount of men in the missile class(only 60) and on top of that they only get 1 or 2 attack, and only one of them gets 3 attack. thats just ridiculous even if they have AP, the AP trait can only do so much.
Storm, I'm pretty sure we played a practice game where my slingers absolutely wrecked your catas. 600 mnai investment beating up a 3200 mnai investment. How can you say they are useless? I see slingers as the main missile contingent about 1/3 of the time. Other people obviously don't consider them useless.
As far as phalanxes, maybe PP can be made a little bit more expensive? After all, unlike most infantry of that level and number, they require significant training to use their pikes and formation properly. That being said, phalanxes are not op at all. Anyone who knows how to beat them can and will. We have rules that limit them considerably anyway. Even when I play phalanx nations I am somewhat hesitant to bring them.
Phalanx is already extremely weak, why make it weaker?
-Stormrage-
06-30-2011, 16:27
ok Lazyo i dont know where the hell you got the idea that i wanted to make phalanx weaker. I dont see it anywhere in my post where i said make phalanx weaker. i said make slingers better at killing phalanx and heavy infantry. there is a differnece please dont twist words around.
second of all to robin :i never said phalanx is OP please give me the quote where i said phalanx is OP.
third of all to robin : I am talkign about slingers killing heavy infantry, and they cant effectively kill heavy infantry with only 60 men. i mean there are units out threr with 100 and 120 men and your giving us 60 man sligners with 1 attack value to kill them with.
You have heavy infantry to kill heavy infantry, archers,slinger,javelin throwers come under supporting arms and are not meant to win a battle on their own.
Yep, supporting units are not meant to kill heavy infantry on their own. Phalanx are not weak and not too strong, they are ok now with the reduced shield value. Sure they have a lot of men but I did not really have problems to win against phalanx this tourney and I'm surely not the best player here...
-Stormrage-
06-30-2011, 18:37
You have heavy infantry to kill heavy infantry, archers,slinger,javelin throwers come under supporting arms and are not meant to win a battle on their own.
i never said i want supporting units to kill heavies all on t heir own. i just dont want them to actually get some kills, in other words they must support. right now there support isnt very effective, why do you twist my words. again i never said i want support units to win the battle on their own, i just want them to have their important role as support units recognized by thier stats. meaning no more 60 man slingers with 1 missile attack value, when there are 120 man heavy infantry out there shredding through everything. it doesnt make sense to have 120 man heavies and all you give us to counter them are 60 man slingers. I hope you understand me now i cant keep repeating.
Slingers and archers right now are effective support troops storm. What I have trouble swallowing is the fact that foot skirmishers are practically useless in this 20-slot-max game.
The ones with spears are not useless.
The ones with spears are not useless.
Indeed, they are not bad against Cataphracts (!) and really good against other cavalry if they have high enough numbers. Their numbers (to 120) is one of their other advantages. And non-spear skirmishers can be used against anarmoured archers, slingers and light infantry with good use. They do not seem to be useless.
In the new EDU iberian troops are stripped from the roster of the kh.
-Many Iberian units removed from KH roster
Why did you change that gamegeek? They were meant to represent the greek cities at the east coast. You can get this units there as KH and they belong to your victory conditions as far as I remember. I think it was one advantage of the KH that they got a lot of different regional units all over the mediterranean. Not the best troops but a lot of diversity was possible.
OK guys. This is going OT.
I change my faction now :P . I'll play as Makedonia. Just...testing :P
Blood Blood Blood
LMT's Blood
http://www.mediafire.com/?07x6e8yas8vu5pe
http://www.mediafire.com/?tk3n7c4icbutg4o
Brave Brave Sir Robin
07-01-2011, 18:08
RABO!
A trio of victories over LMT's Makedonians for my Gallic horde.
http://www.mediafire.com/?r93ibqi5cs9xobn
http://www.mediafire.com/?6ybfycba518bb01
http://www.mediafire.com/?045hzl8sigpbnx8
The Celtic Viking
07-02-2011, 02:20
I'd like to announce that I'm switching to the Casse.
I'd like to announce that I'm switching to the Casse.
Sweet. Finally we'll get some success rate stats on the Casse.
So I could play Averni now? Ts, now I have the more problems to decide...
Grand Opening . 5 loss already haha.
Brave Brave Sir Robin
07-02-2011, 05:00
I started off -4 last month. Don't be discouraged.
antisocialmunky
07-02-2011, 05:35
I started off -4 last month. Don't be discouraged.
Be afraid instead.
We're coming for you :]
I am playing with Romans!
Brave Brave Sir Robin
07-02-2011, 15:55
Hey Vega! Good to see you joining the .org and I look forward to battling you this month.
Of course I am always looking for battle :DD
antisocialmunky
07-02-2011, 17:42
I am victor
http://www.gamefront.com/files/20506120/ASMwVega.rpy
Please state whom you have beaten to make my life easier =.=
antisocialmunky
07-02-2011, 18:32
See replay name :p ASMw(in)Vega.
Well nice start for me again ... victory on Lazyo...but nothing compared to Robin 3 points at a sinlge meal...Robin to LMT :" I am really enjoying for having you at my dinner...guess what u are the dinner =)))))
http://www.mediafire.com/?so8hh3xtsiiwyci
Brave Brave Sir Robin
07-03-2011, 03:06
Well nice start for me again ... victory on Lazyo...but nothing compared to Robin 3 points at a sinlge meal...Robin to LMT :" I am really enjoying for having you at my dinner...guess what u are the dinner =)))))
In your moment of glory, you seem to have forgotten to post the replay AGA :p
Well nice start for me again ... victory on Lazyo...but nothing compared to Robin 3 points at a sinlge meal...Robin to LMT :" I am really enjoying for having you at my dinner...guess what u are the dinner =)))))
HAHAHA YOU FORGOT THE ~replay~.
Oh well just play with Robin, you'll be his dinner too :P.
I confirm agaths victory. Though I will not add it to the standing until vartan posts here.
Well nice start for me again ... victory on Lazyo...but nothing compared to Robin 3 points at a sinlge meal...Robin to LMT :" I am really enjoying for having you at my dinner...guess what u are the dinner =)))))
I think you were the case last month who didn't have a replay. The only one actually. Didn't I tell you not to repeat the same mistake? Argh! This isn't 4th grade! Make me happy and send me replays for my replay bank.
I think you were the case last month who didn't have a replay. The only one actually. Didn't I tell you not to repeat the same mistake? Argh! This isn't 4th grade! Make me happy and send me replays for my replay bank.
I will make u this joy Vartan =))))...so see the replay on my original post !!!!!
If anyone else has problem to use the factional units spreadsheet on the website, one can wath it here:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AspgdrJqBnJBdElpU19ScFd6ZmtzTGxTWnVmUUVrM2c
Celtic Viking and me could not watch the factional unit list further than the Lusos.
O yea my first victory in tourney ever http://www.mediafire.com/?nmm67jp1ds58xef
-Stormrage-
07-03-2011, 19:13
congrats
O yea my first victory in tourney ever http://www.mediafire.com/?nmm67jp1ds58xef
Sorry but that army was illegal ^^ We'll play later.
Imperial army with 3 accensi.
Ok my first win on Stormrage after a defeat streak.
LMT vs Stormrage (http://www.mediafire.com/?dufwgjc5v5ka533)
I'll use the Ptolemaioi this tourney!
-Stormrage-
07-03-2011, 23:33
just played a role of tourney games one after the other, they all fell one by one. Anyway i just had 2 battles with lazyo I won one and he won one, then i played with vega he won at first then i got my revenge and won. The problem is in both of my victories i forgot to save replay because im not used too winning tourney battles. As you remmeber last tourney i got 6 straight losses. But no worries my opponents will testify that i won, atleast i hope they will.....
Nice win vs Storm http://www.mediafire.com/?g1g2eg6d0vc6wvs
and i will testify that he get revenge after this one :D
-Stormrage-
07-04-2011, 01:38
and i will testify that he get revenge after this one :D
lol revenge, thanks =)
Victory vs Stormrage
http://www.mediafire.com/?bj2dfleurc7j8r2
Defeat vs Stormrage
http://www.mediafire.com/?tkvgdvrrpf6y1gk
Storm is lucky you put up the defeat. Thanks for saving that replay Lazy. Not so lazy after all!
By the way there were a couple of units in this EDU that gamegeek2 told me to tell y'all not to use. I can't find my note paper on that but I do remember for sure that one of the units was a 'Lugii Swordsman'. I can't find that unit but that's what gamegeek2 said.
Brave Brave Sir Robin
07-04-2011, 07:20
Storm is lucky you put up the defeat. Thanks for saving that replay Lazy. Not so lazy after all!
By the way there were a couple of units in this EDU that gamegeek2 told me to tell y'all not to use. I can't find my note paper on that but I do remember for sure that one of the units was a 'Lugii Swordsman'. I can't find that unit but that's what gamegeek2 said.
No ones Sweboz anyway so that shouldn't matter.
People should know that in the main RTW folder there is a folder called 'temp' which automatically saves your last MP battle with the name of battle.rpy .
In the meantime, Victory over Vega
http://www.mediafire.com/?vtupxbh90xc23ie
No ones Sweboz anyway so that shouldn't matter.
I'm not entirely sure if this is not a problem for all two-handes swordsmen... but let's just ignore it. ;-)
-Stormrage-
07-04-2011, 15:45
What do you mean by "Problem" you mean its OP or something ?
What do you mean by "Problem" you mean its OP or something ?
I mean you can't use them this month, whatever they are.
Brave Brave Sir Robin
07-04-2011, 17:04
If that includes the Casse two handers I'm afraid of the consequences for TCV since he is playing Casse.
As far as I know, Gamegeek made a mistake increasing the lethality of the lugii swordsmen but forgetting to get rid of the ap attribute.
If that includes the Casse two handers I'm afraid of the consequences for TCV since he is playing Casse.
I'll compare the EDUs...
The Celtic Viking
07-04-2011, 17:34
Kluddargos (Casse two-handers) don't have AP anymore though; he has removed it for them and gave them +2 attack and +1 defence skill instead, but sadly no lethality bump. ~:(
(Edit: also morale boost, hardy and cost reduction, but I still want my AP, dagnammit!)
Brave Brave Sir Robin
07-04-2011, 17:38
Victory over Stormrage's Saka. http://www.mediafire.com/?jk9gqzm17dt4i9d
As far as I know, Gamegeek made a mistake increasing the lethality of the lugii swordsmen but forgetting to get rid of the ap attribute.
I'll compare the EDUs...
As far as I can see, neither the Lugians nor the Swordmasters have the ap trait.
Yeah sorry it was Attack boost. As I said I'm not entirely sure what gamegeek said I just remember something about this two-handes swordsmen. I've compared the EDUs now and the Lugii swordsmen appear to cost around 500 mnai less than before whereas the Kluddargos nearly cost the same as before. Perhaps this is the problem...
The Celtic Viking
07-04-2011, 18:37
So where does this leave me and the Kluddargos? Since GG2 isn't around to be consulted, I would leave it to Vartan to decide as no one knows (or at least can remember) what he has actually said. I would like to know because the Kluddargos is a unit I would use if I may.
I'd say use them. They did not get a cost reduction as the Lugii, so I don't see a problem..
Lazyo win vs Stormrage
http://www.mediafire.com/?xeah5p9w6859ix4
Ah yes that's the one. Alright people, Kludagaros and Lugii are the units gamegeek2 made sure to tell me to prohibit this month and possibly the next, until the EDU is fixed. These units which I really don't know much about and obviously cannot spell the names of correctly are not to be used for good reason (known to gamegeek2 and possibly speculated by players).
EDIT: Think it was TCV a couple posts ago who brought it up. Thanks for jogging my quickly aging memory.
Gamegeek has spoken about Kluddargos? That's bad for TCV, they are an important unit for Casse :/
The Celtic Viking
07-05-2011, 01:17
Yeah, I... should probably learn to keep my big mouth shut. ~:(
Brave Brave Sir Robin
07-05-2011, 04:06
Yeah, I... should probably learn to keep my big mouth shut. ~:(
If you have yet to play a match, you can probably still switch your faction.
If you have yet to play a match, you can probably still switch your faction.
Yes. You should feel free to switch TCV. I'm sorry about the messed up units, really.
Victory against Vega http://www.mediafire.com/?56yhgsy2i7cvix3
Oops !!!another one against Vega http://www.mediafire.com/?6fdgmp72yq9n5gn
Brave Brave Sir Robin
07-05-2011, 18:37
Victory against AGA and his Baktrian soldiers. http://www.mediafire.com/?9bbgm39b70mr33t
Id like to sign up as Bactria.
WOW! This has really picked up in the last few days. Just downloaded the replays on here, still have to select a couple to cast, but I need the new mp edu, where is that again? (If link is in first post just tell me.)
Brave Brave Sir Robin
07-06-2011, 15:00
WOW! This has really picked up in the last few days. Just downloaded the replays on here, still have to select a couple to cast, but I need the new mp edu, where is that again? (If link is in first post just tell me.)
Here you are Tanit. http://www.mediafire.com/?6cr84vrnm7c86nb
Glad you are joining the tourney Nicanor! Good luck to you and your Baktrian soldiers.
antisocialmunky
07-06-2011, 15:16
WOW! This has really picked up in the last few days. Just downloaded the replays on here, still have to select a couple to cast, but I need the new mp edu, where is that again? (If link is in first post just tell me.)
Commentate me vs Vega. It was very close until one misclick.
I second that, though the battle was won by ASM in the beginning, when Vega did not save ammo for the prodromoi.
Brave Brave Sir Robin
07-06-2011, 16:56
Victory over Lazy O. Battle is from his perspective as I forgot to save the replay myself.:bow:
http://www.mediafire.com/?3tmes67ceuavent
He should be following this up with his win over me anytime soon though...:laugh4:
-Stormrage-
07-06-2011, 18:15
GUYS someone has got to defeat Robin , he's starting to be a threat to my 1st place trophy.
Brave Brave Sir Robin
07-06-2011, 18:58
GUYS someone has got to defeat Robin , he's starting to be a threat to my 1st place trophy.
Lazy O did. He just hasn't posted the replay yet. We scheduled a rubber match sometime later this month.
Strange victory over Nicomar http://www.mediafire.com/?aj0eiwrgjpbrd9b
WOW! This has really picked up in the last few days. Just downloaded the replays on here, still have to select a couple to cast, but I need the new mp edu, where is that again? (If link is in first post just tell me.)
If you mean battles from this very month of July, you'll need v2.1.
http://www.ebonline.tk/files/EBO%20MP%20EDU%202.1.zip
Victory over Vega
http://www.mediafire.com/?tilxi44dg5n8pa5
The Celtic Viking
07-07-2011, 05:19
My first competitive battle with Casse ended up with a victory for me over Kival's Ptolemaic soldiers. ~:)
http://www.mediafire.com/?r9p91jpeapr94a9
First part uploading on youtube ^^
Bad news is that I forgot to turn on sound.
Wrong thread :P Post in the EDU 2.2 thread
Wrong thread :P Post in the EDU 2.2 thread
I don't know about 2.2; but I moved the discussion on Spartan hoplites to the EDU 2.1 thread (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?136482-EB-Online-EDU-v2.1-RELEASE!&p=2053339413&viewfull=1#post2053339413).
Brave Brave Sir Robin
07-07-2011, 16:58
Victory over Vega's Roman cohorts. Well played sir. http://www.mediafire.com/?81zzgcbxh67b2w3
I don't know about 2.2; but I moved the discussion on Spartan hoplites to the EDU 2.1 thread (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?136482-EB-Online-EDU-v2.1-RELEASE%21&p=2053339413&viewfull=1#post2053339413).
Thank you Ludens.
GLORY FOR ROME!!! vs Kival Egyptians http://www.mediafire.com/?q4r8d7gu22grs8z
Brave Brave Sir Robin
07-07-2011, 19:49
Another victory over Vega, this one was insanely close. Watch til the end.
http://www.mediafire.com/?3ctze56j17czpc9
Burebista
07-07-2011, 20:16
Sign me up as Epeiros plz .
So that one was legit....
So that one was legit....
Yes, I looked it through. Close game, very close. But chariots were used decisively, and not straight through BSR's own line.
gamegeek2
07-07-2011, 23:14
For all interested the most recent EDU I posted before I left contained fixes that fixed the Lugii swordsmen and the other problem there was...
The Celtic Viking
07-07-2011, 23:21
So I can use the Zweihander gods of the Casse, the Kluddargos, to crush my foes? Wohoo!
gamegeek2
07-07-2011, 23:26
If they have AP in the updated EDU then they weren´t fixed and that´s my bad, and you shouldnt use them.
Casse still have the best cheapest chariots, are now the only faction that can use goidils, and rycalawre are very good.
They do not have AP although I think we need to discuss that in the next version.
gamegeek2
07-07-2011, 23:38
Right they are fine to use then. How´s my ptolemaioi suggestion working out for you, Kival? Do you like the feel of the roster?
AP twohanders were statistically very overpowered. The change was necessary if we were to implement the elite size increase. Rhomphaiaphoroi regularly rack up over 200 kills on large size still, and Kluddargos use a statistically identical weapon (in the new EDU).
I´d like to hear some commentary on other major changes, particularly on cavalry secondaries and elite size increases.
Victory vs Burebista http://www.mediafire.com/?8ajrho0dcgaj8f7
Burebista
07-08-2011, 00:18
http://www.mediafire.com/?t3cnal4uqi1y808
victory vs Vega
Burebista
07-08-2011, 00:21
Right they are fine to use then. How´s my ptolemaioi suggestion working out for you, Kival? Do you like the feel of the roster?
AP twohanders were statistically very overpowered. The change was necessary if we were to implement the elite size increase. Rhomphaiaphoroi regularly rack up over 200 kills on large size still, and Kluddargos use a statistically identical weapon (in the new EDU).
I´d like to hear some commentary on other major changes, particularly on cavalry secondaries and elite size increases.
Drapanai are oficially useless. With 11 attack and that flimsy defence they are worse than cannon fodder. You're better off with any other unit .
Also , Ptolemaioi roster now looks interesting . At least for me , having neitos , phalanxes and kretikoi + ellies as factionals opens up possibilities
For Casse , i always felt that giving them the goidilics as factionals would be a huge motivation to play them.
Glory for Camilian Era vs Nicomar http://www.mediafire.com/?c171nzzf0o2ws7e
Victory vs Vega: http://www.mediafire.com/?pecgu4xercm8w0v
Close victory vs Kival and his Ptolemaic Army
http://www.mediafire.com/?4vwe88q55mpfr5j
This time the Ptolemaioi won: http://www.mediafire.com/?n9as15zrv6c2brt
I demand an adjustment to the rules that Roman players have to state which era they will be using.
What faction is burebista using?
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The much asked for victory over Robin
http://www.mediafire.com/?vpttz7utgl3e3dy
He's using Epirotes:
Sign me up as Epeiros plz .
Burebista
07-08-2011, 10:56
I demand an adjustment to the rules that Roman players have to state which era they will be using.
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It's his option , me thinks :) . Why limit him in getting the most out of his faction?
Noone is asking you to only use early/late carthage units , right?
But there is no rule that I cannot use the light libyan spearmen with the heavy ones, but there is a rule that Roman players cannot pick troops from different eras, also, steppe factions have to announce steppe. Polyiban and Marian are two different armies.
Brave Brave Sir Robin
07-08-2011, 14:59
All Roman armies revolve around heavy infantry though so I don't really see what the big deal is. Polybians and Camillans can bring a little cavalry to the fight, thats about the only difference.
There are players of all walks of life and all tastes and expectations. That some enjoy their battles being handed to them on a silver platter is not surprising (the lack of such players, on the other hand, would be surprising).
But there is no rule that I cannot use the light libyan spearmen with the heavy ones
It would not really make sense as they were used together as far as I know.
I would like to change my faction to Arche Seluekia if its possible
Two victories against Nicanors Batkrians bring me to +1 as far as I see:
http://www.mediafire.com/?idd3c4k1tal3aq6
http://www.mediafire.com/?1xtsi1co5c9d4ms
Blood Blood Blood victory vs Nicanor
http://www.mediafire.com/?b7rc8wjde6g3941
Freak Javelin throw(:no:) nets a victory vs Burebista
http://www.mediafire.com/?uuso5upu44n7afj
antisocialmunky
07-09-2011, 15:39
Sigh, seems you can't take anything but heavy infantry against gauls again. I thought we were done with this stuff. :]
What do you mean? You can use archers or slingers and cav and win against celts? Surely you will not win with a line of non-armoured infantry against celts but what's wrong with that?
The Celtic Viking
07-09-2011, 17:20
Two games against Antisocialmunky, one victory and one loss. (He took my losing virginity, that @¤#"#¤!)
ASM's victory: http://www.mediafire.com/?zd4xz5gxalzq2vj
My victory: http://www.mediafire.com/?a688oy44jabgdoc
antisocialmunky
07-09-2011, 17:24
What do you mean? You can use archers or slingers and cav and win against celts? Surely you will not win with a line of non-armoured infantry against celts but what's wrong with that?
I'm not Luso and don't have 14+ morale skirmishers.
Brave Brave Sir Robin
07-09-2011, 17:43
The cause for ASM's sadness.
http://www.mediafire.com/?e28439jba45pbfj
Great victory for the Aeduic warband, avenging their defeat at Delphi years earlier.
Win over Nicanor's Bactrian soldiers http://www.mediafire.com/?770wciq780no3w1
Another Glory for Romans vs Kival's Egyptians http://www.mediafire.com/?2l3t8ljl6l53pua
I would like to change my faction to Arche Seluekia if its possible
Not possible, you have already fought a battle.
Defensive and discipline won vs storm saka http://www.mediafire.com/?ga6b6e6lb21w7e3
No discipline and no defensive but chasing one of each other on the entire map and voila another victory for me
http://www.mediafire.com/?l87izwgnmpzdhcd
Unbeatable roman roster is still not beaten lazyos carthage knelt to roman cohorts and phalanxes http://www.mediafire.com/?ktjkn61hfoo17j5
-Stormrage-
07-11-2011, 16:15
it shall kneal to MY saka armies
Victroy after a streak of loses vs Lazyo
http://www.mediafire.com/?1c0mmgyaa0c5g4w
antisocialmunky
07-12-2011, 01:19
Unbeatable roman roster is still not beaten lazyos carthage knelt to roman cohorts and phalanxes http://www.mediafire.com/?ktjkn61hfoo17j5
:\ That battle made me sad.
The Celtic Viking
07-12-2011, 02:06
My second victory vs Kival: http://www.mediafire.com/?85vda8tvvj3jgvl
Brave Brave Sir Robin
07-12-2011, 02:17
Victory over the Ptolemaic sister-lovers of Kival. http://www.mediafire.com/?ekv9doe7a14t1sl
Victory over the Ptolemaic sister-lovers of Kival.
Oh man that made me laugh! Thanks BSR :)
Glad to see so many battles so early in the month.
-Stormrage-
07-12-2011, 19:14
i dont get it
I want to laugh tooo :(
Ptolemy II married his sister Arsinoe I, which is why he was given the surname Philadelphos ( sister lover )
One of my rare battles against Kival...and a rare victory for me
http://www.mediafire.com/?88drqnqxzro6961
Sorry for the delay in posting the first score report. I was suffering from food poisoning (be careful people, it's dangerous!) It's up on the first post now.
Victory vs Kival
http://www.mediafire.com/?5yvest28vb0h6l7
Two victories for Roman Legions vs LMT's Macedons
http://www.mediafire.com/?k52gwboh0gc4t1i
http://www.mediafire.com/?a3wek34sw7tess6
Brave Brave Sir Robin
07-13-2011, 21:03
An incredible battle here between me and Kival. In the end, the Aedui snatched victory from the jaws of defeat.
http://www.mediafire.com/?z88nq81my6z4nao
Yeah, this one was great, I was never so close to victory before in a match I still lost.
Nice win vs Agat, oh men, i am in serious wining row now :DD
http://www.mediafire.com/?nol2gcf9mjdcuo4
The Celtic Viking
07-14-2011, 00:58
Two victories vs Nicanor.
http://www.mediafire.com/?gdg8y92673a1g76
http://www.mediafire.com/?chphwxnpa6v8iq4
TCV i think its time to face each other one in tourney, bcz i played 22 battles for now, neither vs you :bow: :balloon2: :stare:
Over now.
Victory vs Vega
http://www.mediafire.com/?1owvqscrhc8yhji
Ok i just decided to finish this tourney because some guys hate my faction or maybe hate me, so no more mathes i cant wathc some stupid posts and just to ignore them i will play next tourney with gauls, and no more phalanx no more roman archers no more cohorts i think you guys are happy now..
-Stormrage-
07-15-2011, 22:56
your over reacting, we love you and your romans you give us a challenge, if you go, i will not have anyone challenging to battle. i beat robin many times i am bored of beating him :p lol.
It is natural for your defeated enemies to get angry a little bit but we will cool down, Ceaser was hated but did he go and join the gauls, NO. He stayed in rome and got assassinated by those most dear to him :oops: , but dont worry, :sneaky: im sure no one will try to assassinate you.
:angel:
Continue to play in this tourney and continue to play Romans.
Brave Brave Sir Robin
07-16-2011, 13:53
I agree with Storm. Don't quit now Vega, there are too many good matches to be played against you this month. We still have a third which needs to be played.
blah ok i waill continue but that yesterday was big rage atack, so i calmed down i will will look to fight with you guys again...
antisocialmunky
07-16-2011, 16:49
Yeah, just ignore the balance whining. Rome isn't as bad as it used to be where cav > Rome but Imperial Archers > cav.
Win against Kival http://www.mediafire.com/?01ymm4cvyn1uc88
Win over LazyO
http://www.mediafire.com/?ys21zwz1x0rgp1s
Another win vs Lazy
http://www.mediafire.com/?i92koa643rira5q
Close win vs Lazyo http://www.mediafire.com/?swzye7rotjrddrh
Brave Brave Sir Robin
07-17-2011, 17:50
Lazy stop feeding.:sweatdrop:
I'm gonna hear it for this comment and probably get my butt whupped too.:yes:
A victory for me against Lazy too:
http://www.mediafire.com/?hqjd0az10pbhtqr
-Stormrage-
07-18-2011, 20:48
How much are they paying you laz
Vega, I was talking to gamegeek2 today and he told me to tell you to please not use phalanxes when you're playing as Rome in the tournament.
You may choose to continue using them, at least this month, as I do not have anything against that and nobody here can tell you not to use them. They may be removed from the roster to be completely honest with you, in the next iteration. I am sorry, but I'm just conveying to you a message. No hard feelings.
EDIT: This isn't about you. You just happen to be our only July SPQR player.
gamegeek2
07-19-2011, 00:00
Rome will probably lose merc phalanxes for any concerned.
Things looking nice and active!
antisocialmunky
07-19-2011, 00:39
You should give them merc hellenic katas instead :]
Ok i understand so i will not use phalanx anymore...... :wall::thumbsdown::furious2:
Brave Brave Sir Robin
07-19-2011, 02:32
You can keep using them this month, just not next. Read Vartan's post.
-Stormrage-
07-19-2011, 07:36
Gamegeek's BAAACK, its nice to see his face/avatar again.
gamegeek2
07-19-2011, 14:38
Not back, just have access to free internet for once.
-Stormrage-
07-19-2011, 15:25
hey gg, do u know about this command for edu " light_spear, spear_bonus_6" can it be used to make the game more realistic in terms of stats?
Go to nicanors house and stay there if you are in Columbia :D
Go to nicanors house and stay there if you are in Columbia :D
LOL. He's going to reveal to Nicanor all the intimate secrets of the EDU, haha.
Whats going on with me ?
:inquisitive:
LOL. He's going to reveal to Nicanor all the intimate secrets of the EDU, haha.
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Whats going on with me ?
:inquisitive:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Well,nicanor, Our friend gamegeek2, is in Columbia ( or somewhere in South America ) so that was just my little suggestion so we get to play again :D
Oh I get it now, well hes welcome here anytime :yes:
Win versus Stormage's Saka Rauka for my Brave Cohorts http://www.mediafire.com/?jk4hu4fgp28k0tz
Victory vs stormrage...
http://www.mediafire.com/?ssqiiei8x7yqwh2
Brave Brave Sir Robin
07-21-2011, 19:46
Storm, buddy, you gotta learn how to use cavalry...
Second score report up on the original post. Accurate as of Kival vs stormrage (post #182). Thank you.
A victory vs Robin! It was a good match!
http://www.mediafire.com/?re8dxkdb7a48vy9
NOOO!!!!! Robin, you in cavalry practice!!! NOW!!! TODAY!!!!
Vau! Congratulations Kival i must watch this replay :DD
gamegeek2
07-22-2011, 18:20
Some victories for my suggested Ptolemaioi, I see! Those Agema Klerouchikon Hippeon doing you good?
Some victories for my suggested Ptolemaioi, I see! Those Agema Klerouchikon Hippeon doing you good?
No, my victory was without any cavalry :laugh4: - In the hands of someone capable they would be good though ;-).
Congratulations Kival. This is something to commend considering the great success BSR is having this month. Well done both of you!
Brave Brave Sir Robin
07-22-2011, 20:33
My third and rubber match against Lazy O for the month is a victory for the Aedui. Always a pleasure to match wits against you and I look forward to next month.
http://www.mediafire.com/?m39he84cwc2mqca
gamegeek2
07-22-2011, 21:52
No, my victory was without any cavalry :laugh4: - In the hands of someone capable they would be good though ;-).
Haha, can you please share your army comp via PM?
Lazy this tourney is really disaster for you i guess :D
It would not be if every battle against you was a tourney ;)
This "monthly" tournament turned out to be more like a three-week tournament, hah. Thanks all for playing. I will update the OP with scores and whatnot. Don't forget, team battles are allowed again and you may register anytime you please, so play in EBOT 2011 August!
UPDATE: Scores up on the original post. Enjoy. Congrats to the top players. Thank you BSR for artificially hiking the Aedui factional success rate, lol.
Brave Brave Sir Robin
08-29-2011, 21:14
Since no one would make me a sweet signature for winning July's tourney(:thumbsdown:), I decided to try my hand at it myself. The results are decidedly subpar, but oh well, it will have to do. If anyone desires me to make signatures for them in the future, I will happily oblige but don't expect the level of craftsmanship to exceed the one I made. This one was a struggle.:clown:
Since no one would make me a sweet signature for winning July's tourney(:thumbsdown:), I decided to try my hand at it myself. The results are decidedly subpar, but oh well, it will have to do. If anyone desires me to make signatures for them in the future, I will happily oblige but don't expect the level of craftsmanship to exceed the one I made. This one was a struggle.:clown:
My Map Collection Officer who claimed a general lack of technical skill making a reasonable signature for the tournament? Hah! You did great BSR!
Brave Brave Sir Robin
08-30-2011, 03:41
I lucked into a perfect picture for the tourney victory in my campaign. Otherwise, it was put together in a 30 minute grappling contest with MS Paint. And I'm still claiming a general lack of technical skill. Don't use past tense.:laugh4:
I lucked into a perfect picture for the tourney victory in my campaign. Otherwise, it was put together in a 30 minute grappling contest with MS Paint. And I'm still claiming a general lack of technical skill. Don't use past tense.:laugh4:
I'm not a graphic artist either, so I don't know anything beyond basics. But I know enough to do basic operations easily using free and open-source software. I could teach you sometime if you wish (how else will I repay for your help with the maps?)
-Stormrage-
08-30-2011, 07:12
What happened to those maps, where u hiding them. We need to make a official release here in the forum, so people will now " hey we got some MP maps here" cuz i forgot about them for some time now .
The Celtic Viking
08-30-2011, 08:17
What are you talking about, Storm? He already has released them, it's on the top thread of this forum section. Is God blocking your vision or something?
What happened to those maps, where u hiding them. We need to make a official release here in the forum, so people will now " hey we got some MP maps here" cuz i forgot about them for some time now .
What are you talking about, Storm? He already has released them, it's on the top thread of this forum section. Is God blocking your vision or something?
Haha, you guys! I'm talking about the map information collection that Brave Sir Robin has done and continues to do for the EB-prefixed MP maps that come with EB v1.2. All work so far is available here (http://ebwiki.tk/wiki/Category:Maps).
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