The Anteroom - community discussion thread

[phonicsmonkey]

Nightbringer, is it your 21st birthday? Happy birthday!

[Nightbringer]

Nightbringer, is it your 21st birthday? Happy birthday!

It is, and thank you.

Simultaneously, happy thanksgiving to those who celebrate it!

[Cecil XIX]

Happy Birthday, Nightbringer! Hope it's not too much of a hassle having your birthday so close to Thanksgiving!

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Nightbringer, Happy Birthday!

[Myth]

Happy Birthday NIghtbringer!

[Nightbringer]

thanks everyone, it actually went pretty well, I went out drinking the night before (as in, after midnight) and had a nice relaxing day to let the side effects wear off.

[Ignoramus]

Late happy birthday Nightbringer!

[Nightbringer]

thanks!

[phonicsmonkey]

I love the beginning of hotseat games, always so much hope and plans that can't fail :laugh4:

[Nightbringer]

I know exactly what you mean. Of course, it never seems to work out like you had hoped.

[phonicsmonkey]

I know exactly what you mean. Of course, it never seems to work out like you had hoped.

Which is why it's so much fun! Speaking of new hotseats, is there appetite for another new game? I couldn't play in it but I'm happy to set one up for others.

[Nightbringer]

I would like to play in another RPG, and after next week I should be able to try to put one together. If anyone is interested in an RPG please post here and say if you have any specific interests for what it would be.

[phonicsmonkey]

I would like to play in another RPG, and after next week I should be able to try to put one together. If anyone is interested in an RPG please post here and say if you have any specific interests for what it would be.

Cecil had some great ideas in a thread below

[phonicsmonkey]

hey guys, did anyone read tales from the throne room this time? was it any good? what did you like and not like about it?

it's hard to judge whether anyone actually reads it, even though it's on the front page. I had hoped it would draw people in but I don't think anyone has come here because of it...have they?

[Nightbringer]

I can say I really enjoy reading them. Its always fun to me to get an outside perspective on the various games, and I enjoyed doing the interview as well.

[Nightbringer]

As far as the RPG is concerned, can people please post or pm me if they are possibly interested in one. If there is some interest I can start drafting game ideas, but if not, well, there isn't much point...
:)

thanks

[Zim]

I'd be interested. What game and mod (if applicable) were you thinking?

[Nightbringer]

I'd be interested. What game and mod (if applicable) were you thinking?

As for game, RTW or M2TW. In terms of mods, I personally like SS and EB a lot, but would be up for just about anything.

One idea I had for an unusual game though was playing the Americas campaign from the kingdoms expansion.
One player, or I, could act as the King of Spain, while other players play conquistadors who must curry favor with the king for rights to conquer land, financial support, etc...
All income would go to the King, and he could distribute part of it to players to simulate royal backing of their expedition. Ransom and sacking funds could go to individuals.

Individual players would have incentive to go on a rampage and make money off devastating the continent, while the king would try to keep them from letting natives simply take back everything they left behind, and from sacking things so badly that it no longer produces money.

That is just one idea though, and I would honestly be happy to run whatever people are most interested in doing. (unless it is S2TW, or Nap TW because I don't have those games)

[Zim]

I always thought EB was a perfect setup for rpgs. SS would be fun as well (personally, I'd be slightly more up for a medieval or America campaign setting, but good either way).

The Americas campaign sounds interesting, definately different from past ones. We also had a Teutonic Campaign once upon a time that I thought would work well for a short rpg.

[phonicsmonkey]

I've always wanted an RPG based around Hungary

Have you seen the Magyar Mod (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=583)? It would be great for that.

Also the Rus - Rusichi Total War (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=187774) could be awesome for that....or, indeed, you could seek Quirl's permission to revive The Black March (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?135277-Black-March-An-Upcoming-RPG-for-the-Qara-Suu-Kha%C4%9Fanate) which looked to be a killer idea

[Nightbringer]

I'm not familiar with either of those mods, but would be glad to become so.
Quirl's game idea looks quite awesome I have to say, but I simply do not feel familiar enough with the setting to do it justice.

i will go take a look at those mods you mentioned.

[phonicsmonkey]

Rusichi is probably more of a finished product. As I understand it the Magyar Mod hasn't added new cavalry units yet, which is a bit of a shame.

[Nightbringer]

Rusichi is probably more of a finished product. As I understand it the Magyar Mod hasn't added new cavalry units yet, which is a bit of a shame.

The Rusichi mod looks quite cool I have to say, as for the Magyar one, it just seems a little too unfinished from what I see.

In terms of the Rusichi mod, it seems like a pretty standard game would likely work well, and the system they claim for civil war on faction leader death could add some very interesting dynamics.
Was there any specific type of game you wanted phonics, or just something focused on that culture?

[Zim]

Rusichi was quite tough as I recall, not like that's a bad thing of course.

It is a very cool mod. Personally, I'd be happy with just about anything outside of Central Europe.

[Nightbringer]

Rusichi was quite tough as I recall, not like that's a bad thing of course.

It is a very cool mod. Personally, I'd be happy with just about anything outside of Central Europe.

I too suffer from central Europe fatigue, unless you go back to antiquity or the classical period. And SS sadly doesn't do the greatest job depicting other cultures accurately, except for the Byzantines.

As for Rusichi, I generally like difficulty, but it might be frustrating for players if people die often.

[Zim]

I'm not sure how vulnerable generals in particular were, but the mod as a whole was very tough, more so than any other I'd played at . I think if I took it more slowly I would have done better on my one try through, though. I'm used to playing even tough mods on VH/VH half asleep, not through any special skill but just familiarity with the base game.

One note on any mod that portrays the faction we play fairly accurately. After the Last of the Romans game (ERE, SS if I recall) in the post game discussion it was brought up that people had a lot of trouble with the names and this hurt roleplaying. There was also some feeling that we should move to a more familiar faction in general and votes led us back towards Central Europe for the next game (I say "towards" because we ended up with France). That was years ago, though, so I'm not sure if not having heavily anglicised names a la vanilla MTW2 would matter as much now.

[Nightbringer]

That's a good point, anything that can be typed on a normal qwerty keyboard is fine for me. Beyond that and it just starts to feel like a chore.

[Zim]

All of the ERE names we had could be typed on a normal keyboard, although pronunciation may have been a bit tough for some.

Some examples, taken from the characters in the final war:

My last character: Arintheos Voutoumatis

-Vartholomaios Ksiros

-Kousinos Sophianos

-Ioannis Komnenos III

I didn't think they were too bad but I can understand why having, for example, 3-4 guys named Ioannis (we did) with different Greek names of varying ease of pronunciation might be more challenging than if they were all named "John". Unfamiliar names with spelling players aren't used may blend together.

Not saying this should be a major factor, just that it came up back then.

[phonicsmonkey]

if people die often.

I think we can avoid that by making sure people (koff koff ZIM) are aware that charging their characters into banks of spears is unlikely to reap rewards...

:clown:

[Zim]

I don't recall ever doing anything like that ~:p

My favorite death was my first. Jan van der Pfalz charging into a the rear of a formation of depleted non-spear infantry and dying. I always assumed his horse tripped and he fell off and hit his head.

Here's a couple discussions for what became KotF. The sentiment a few posts down of the second about pronouncing names showed up in both the first thread and a few other places. Discussion topics were spread through a couple threads I'm afraid, so it's mostly in the foggy memories of us old timers (where facts become less and less sure) that the scope of some of the post game/ pre game talks come out. :clown:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?106270-OOC-Thread-and-Chatroom-2/page103

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?118360-Successor-game-faction-discussion-thread

[phonicsmonkey]

Dude stop giving everyone ideas about how we should have games set in England France or Germany so everyone can feel nice and comfy!

I want to be called SZILÁRD!

[Zim]

I'm hoping for a ton of consonants in my name, personally. Either that or playing as Spain.

I only bring it up because it was a surprisingly big issue both pre-LotR discussion, post LotR, and pre-KotF.

[Nightbringer]

I think I would like to stay out of France/England/HRE unless we do a 100 years war game, but Spain could be quite fun actually. My preference would be the Americas game, but a standard one could be fun as well with the reconquista.

[Nightbringer]

I think I would like to stay out of France/England/HRE unless we do a 100 years war game, but Spain could be quite fun actually. My preference would be the Americas game, but a standard one could be fun as well with the reconquista.


Plus, the names are familiar without being completely mundane.

[phonicsmonkey]

I have to say that personally neither the Americas campaign nor Spain really appeals. I might join a Spain one but I wouldn't get involved with the Americas. Not into beating up on indigenous peoples!

[Nightbringer]

Fine by me, feel free to voice any particular ideas you have for a magyar game. I will look into Rusichi more closely and try to draft some ideas in the next few days.

[phonicsmonkey]

Might be good to post a thread to find out who else might be interested and what they think about the setting, before you do too much work.

Much as I have my opinions they may not be shared and we can't play an RPG with just me and you!

[ArcturUs]

Im up for an RPG type of game, send me the details and I will tell ya whether I can do it.

[Ignoramus]

I have to say that personally neither the Americas campaign nor Spain really appeals. I might join a Spain one but I wouldn't get involved with the Americas. Not into beating up on indigenous peoples!

What about beating up the Scots? :P

[phonicsmonkey]

What about beating up the Scots? :P

At least you guys have swords and pikes to fight back with! I quit the only time I played Americas after my fifth or sixth comfortable long distance gunpowder massacre of defenseless villagers. It just seemed really wrong!

[Nightbringer]

What about beating up the Scots? :P

The way I see it, in every war you are being horrible and cruel to somebody, and that overwhelms any concerns about who lived there first to me.

[Nightbringer]

At least you guys have swords and pikes to fight back with! I quit the only time I played Americas after my fifth or sixth comfortable long distance gunpowder massacre of defenseless villagers. It just seemed really wrong!

In that type of situation I see what you mean, but that type of things is happening in medieval battles to if you think about drafted peasants beings stood in front of armored knights.

[Myth]

I never actually had the patience to play vanilla up until America appears, but I've heard some horrid accounts of half-naked Aztecs massacring Dismounted Chivalric Knights by the boatloads. At least in vanilla no cavalry = dead conquistadores. By the way, if we ever set up a hotseat for the Americas and you guys let me play the Apache I'd wipe the floor with New Spain. Having Jihads + 15/15 melle/ranged attack bowmen? Bring it on gunpowder boys :smash:

[Nightbringer]

I never actually had the patience to play vanilla up until America appears, but I've heard some horrid accounts of half-naked Aztecs massacring Dismounted Chivalric Knights by the boatloads. At least in vanilla no cavalry = dead conquistadores. By the way, if we ever set up a hotseat for the Americas and you guys let me play the Apache I'd wipe the floor with New Spain. Having Jihads + 15/15 melle/ranged attack bowmen? Bring it on gunpowder boys :smash:

Ya the gunpowder units in Americas are actually quite underwhelming in my opinion, it all comes down to mounted units, which wipe the floor with anything that isn't mounted.

[Myth]

Cavalry rules lead battles, that's the rule. They'd also lose horribly in autocalc vs. the natives.

[phonicsmonkey]

Looks like we'll have a bumper crop of RPGs soon, I can't wait!

[Myth]

I've also done 1/3 of the work required for the GA timelapse, which we can use to further promote the TR.

[Myth]

I'm away from tomorow until Tuesday. Subs as follows:

LS - Cecil
TSI - Nightbringer
WiC - I prefer no one as this turn is too important. Just postpone until Tuesday evening if it comes up.
CoG! - Thanatos
WotK2 - anyone but Monkey
EotA - any one of my allies who knows how to siege assault with an Elven faction without giving casualties
MoT - extremely unlikely that my turn will come up having just played it. If it does, stall until Tuesday.

:medievalcheers:

[phonicsmonkey]

I had an idea the other day when I was sitting around wishing I had a hotseat turn to play. It's not particularly original but what about a communal singleplayer co-op game where we play one turn each in no particular order? basically anyone can play the turn so long as they didn't play the turn before - just grab the save, post to say you have it, return it within 24 hours with a few basic notes for the rest of the players

Would anyone be interested in that? We could pick a mod that not many have played, maybe something really unusual, or an old favourite that hasn't been dusted off for a while.

I'd be into Broken Crescent 1.05 but BI was also mentioned and that could be fun too. Or an EB campaign?

[Nightbringer]

I had an idea the other day when I was sitting around wishing I had a hotseat turn to play. It's not particularly original but what about a communal singleplayer co-op game where we play one turn each in no particular order? basically anyone can play the turn so long as they didn't play the turn before - just grab the save, post to say you have it, return it within 24 hours with a few basic notes for the rest of the players

Would anyone be interested in that? We could pick a mod that not many have played, maybe something really unusual, or an old favourite that hasn't been dusted off for a while.

I'd be into Broken Crescent 1.05 but BI was also mentioned and that could be fun too. Or an EB campaign?

I would be up for that, no particular preference with mods though.

Also, I need myth's password to sub him in TSI, but I am not really sure how to get it.

[phonicsmonkey]

I'll clear it for you when I get home later

[Zim]

I'd be up for that kind of game. It would be an interesting change and wouldn't demand too much from the participants with them playing single turns.

Maybe a 24 hour wait before the same player could take another turn after playing? Not letting anyone play two turns in a row might work as well, although it could be good to leave it as an option in case there's a period of time other oplayers are too busy.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I'm up for a game like this as well. Sounds interesting! ~:)

[Myth]

I'll be on in 6 hours or so, i think there is no need for NB to sub me.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I had an idea the other day when I was sitting around wishing I had a hotseat turn to play. It's not particularly original but what about a communal singleplayer co-op game where we play one turn each in no particular order? basically anyone can play the turn so long as they didn't play the turn before - just grab the save, post to say you have it, return it within 24 hours with a few basic notes for the rest of the players

Would anyone be interested in that? We could pick a mod that not many have played, maybe something really unusual, or an old favourite that hasn't been dusted off for a while.

I'd be into Broken Crescent 1.05 but BI was also mentioned and that could be fun too. Or an EB campaign?

I was thinking about this. Perhaps there is interest in a Koinon Hellenon campaign?

[Myth]

Away until Tuesday guys. Merry Christmas! :)

[Nightbringer]

Happy holidays everyone!

[phonicsmonkey]

Merry Christmas to the Throne Room!

[Zim]

Hey everyone, sorry for the wait on the turns I have up. Christmas hit me pretty hard timewise. Then I was all set to work on them this morning but was ordered to work an extra half shift. To top it off they're both fairly important, time intensive turns. I should be able to do them within a day or two but to get them out sooner I'm going to pm the gm my pw and which people can sub in case they can get them out faster.

[phonicsmonkey]

Sorry guys I'm away camping until the weekend so i'm no use to you

[Myth]

I'm here until Thursday night Eastern European time. I can sub/assist anyone.

[phonicsmonkey]

New Year, New Players

Welcome to the Throne Room TheAltGuardian, AsbestosGasMask and House Stark!

It's always great to see some new faces around here.

[Myth]

Welcome!

[Cecil XIX]

Yes indeed, welcome!

[phonicsmonkey]

I would like to apologise for my tardiness in completing hotseat turns recently - as I've mentioned elsewhere I'm going through a tough time in RL at the moment and I'm afraid my full attention is not here.

thanks for the reminders and keep them coming, it's certainly useful to be nudged.

[Myth]

http://content7.flixster.com/photo/93/25/00/9325005_ori.jpg

Appoints subss maybe? Yesss...

[phonicsmonkey]

Appoints subss maybe? Yesss...

In order to do that I would have to realise it was my turn... :clown:

Think I'm back on top of all my games now

[Nightbringer]

Hey, everyone here who is a US resident should think about signing some anti SOPA petition.
If you don't know what this is, or are not a US resident, then you should do some reading about it as it will mots likely close over half of the websites you visit.

[phonicsmonkey]

Speaking of "Tales from the Throne Room," is that continuing? I enjoyed it a lot, but I understand if it is too much work.

It certainly is - we were aiming for one per month so we're overdue an update. I'll get onto it with good sir Myth...

[Ibn-Khaldun]

phonics - I liked the interview with Cecil. Nice to see the Tales continuing.

[Myth]

Wow, Cecil sure loves his RPGs. Now I know why he wanted that Sigismund von Mahren set :yes: Can we get TinCow to run something similar again? A choose your own adventure RPG sounds really interesting.

BTW In TATW I'm the High Elves, slysnake is the Sylvan Elves and Rougeman is the Free People of Eriador, just an FYI. When do we make the next update? A few games have already changed since we compiled this :laugh4:

[phonicsmonkey]

Wow, Cecil sure loves his RPGs.

He sure does! It was great finding out more about Cecil, he's one of the Throne Room's more enigmatic denizens..it's also nice to find out the origin of the name. I had guessed it might be a Pope or something but was too lazy to wiki to find out...


BTW In TATW I'm the High Elves, slysnake is the Sylvan Elves and Rougeman is the Free People of Eriador, just an FYI. When do we make the next update? A few games have already changed since we compiled this :laugh4:

Yeah, in the first line I put Rougeman in brackets after Eriador and where you talked about the elves collectively later I put Myth and slysnake. So I think that's correct isn't it?

Next update next month!

[Nightbringer]

He sure does! It was great finding out more about Cecil, he's one of the Throne Room's more enigmatic denizens..it's also nice to find out the origin of the name. I had guessed it might be a Pope or something but was too lazy to wiki to find out...



Yeah, in the first line I put Rougeman in brackets after Eriador and where you talked about the elves collectively later I put Myth and slysnake. So I think that's correct isn't it?

Next update next month!

I have gone through half the game thinking myth was the silvan elves myself somehow. I suppose I just can't be bothered to pay attention to who I am crushing... or, you know, getting beaten up by in the case of the Silvan Elves. But vengeance will come!

[Myth]

I've been AI stomping with the High Elves up until now. I did sub Rohan for a time though, just ask Deguerra :laugh4:

I must say I'm proud of Zim, he's been a real trooper keeping you guys at bay until I come and wipe you out. I mean, until I come to reinforce the defensive effort :laugh4:

[phonicsmonkey]

Throne Roomies,

I am aggrieved to announce that due to the implacable will of Fate I am forced to leave you for a period of one week to go here:
https://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa181/phonicsmonkeytw/prop-img-full-foajm881-mqkbn1rrifwg.jpg

Terrible as this may seem I urge you not to be overwhelmed by pity for me but simply know that I will do my best to return to you in as fit a state as possible to resume my duties as moderator, game admin and player.

In their compassion for my plight, Zim has agreed to take over my admin duties and sub me in WotK, while Cecil will sub me in LS and NB will sub me in MoT.

While I will not have access to my gaming computer I may well be logging in from time to time to check on things and so you might catch me, provided they have internet access here:

https://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa181/phonicsmonkeytw/250211_4.jpg

[Cecil XIX]

We'll do our best not to set the Throne Room on fire. Have fun!

[Thanatos Eclipse]

Oh, the horror! ;)

[Myth]

Monkey I feel for you. Also appoint a sub for TSI if we're to continue playing that.

[Nightbringer]

grumble grumble beach grumble grumble spoiled grumble grumble hate you... :)

[phonicsmonkey]

Monkey I feel for you. Also appoint a sub for TSI if we're to continue playing that.

Igno can sub me if he hasn't thrown in the towel. Zim has the admin pw.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I noticed that there is no "2012" category in the Download section. Perhaps it should be created?

[Thanatos Eclipse]

I'm going to be out of town fri-sun, and even with my laptop, I probably won't have much time to play. So if loosecannon1 isn't going to play his CoG or Third Age turns, could we get one of his teammates to sub him, since I'm right after him in both games?

[Nightbringer]

I'm going to be out of town fri-sun, and even with my laptop, I probably won't have much time to play. So if loosecannon1 isn't going to play his CoG or Third Age turns, could we get one of his teammates to sub him, since I'm right after him in both games?

I can sub him in third age if needed as long as someone clears the password for me.

Is he intending on not playing the turns though?

[Thanatos Eclipse]

I don't know, but both turns are overdue, so I thought I'd give a heads up not to wait too long :)

[Vasilefs]

Greetings

I might join some of your hotseats,I am old hotseat "veteran" from TWC,but I would like try to play here with different guys and different rules :yes:

[Myth]

Hey there Vasilefs and welcome! I mentioned you the other day to NB as one of the skilled players from the WWC game. You played very well there, I kept tabs on that game, and I'm very happy to welcome you to the .org!

Don't mind the heated discussion over at the TWC HS topic, you'll find no prejudice here :laugh4:

Actually we have a couple of games that need players.

Clash of Gods! (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?136281-SS-6-4-Clash-of-Gods!-OOC) needs a Kwarezmian player. It's a Catholics vs. Muslims lead battles hotseat, 4 players per team and the Crusader States are on the Muslim side. Victory is achieved by holding and converting target cities to your faith, and Jerusalem is required to win by both teams.

The K-Shah in that game has been a bit underdeveloped (or so I'm told by Silver Shield) because It switched players several times and some have been relatively new to hotseats. But with Jihads allowed, and their strong corner-map posiiton, and the final battle for Jerusalem that decides who wins still far into the future you can make a notable difference!

March of Time (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?138477-The-March-of-Time-A-Stainless-Steel-6-4-hotseat) - yet another SS 6.4 lead battles game, this time a free for all using the Long Campaing VCs for each faction. The Kwarezmian shah is available there and their position is very, very strong. Right now I'd say the most likely winner is either the Fatamid Caliphate (played by phonicsmonkey) or the K-Shah, simply judging on their positions on the map and starting armies.

We will most likely soon be starting another Kingdoms: Britannia forced AR game, since our current These Sceptred Isles (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?138971-Kingdoms-Britannia-Hotseat-These-Sceptred-Isles) seems to have reached a point close to a resolution. You can reserve a spot if you wish.

If you want to, do give a SS 6.4 RPG game a try, it's a very different experience from hotseats. Lords of the Danube (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?378-Lords-of-the-Danube), ran by Nightbringer, has it's own subforum for the sake of convenience.

If you're feeling a bit more leisurely and singleplayer-y you can give our RTW: Europa Barbarorum 1.2 Romanii sucession game (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?140097-EB-1-2-Succession-Game-Resurgere-Romanii-Reipublicae-%28Rise-of-the-Roman-Republic%29) a try. It's basically a bunch of players playing the Romans in EB and we throw in the occasional in-character story and screenshots. Which I have to get to, but I've been lacking time as of late.

[Vasilefs]

Thanks for the list ,Ill check it now :)

[phonicsmonkey]

Greetings

I might join some of your hotseats,I am old hotseat "veteran" from TWC,but I would like try to play here with different guys and different rules :yes:

Welcome to the Throne Room Vasilefs, it's good to see you here!

[Nightbringer]

Welcome Vasilefs!

[Cecil XIX]

Welcome, Vasilefs!

[Myth]

FYI guys you can now hashtag people to let them know they are mentioned. Quotes are also noted by the system.

[Zim]

Hey everyone, I had a problem with my computer that required reformatting. I'll be unable to play turns for a few days while I get everything back on my computer (and hunt down my MTW2 discs). I'll try to get subs.

[Myth]

Always sucks for that to happen Zim, let me know if I can sub you in a game. On the bright side, phonicsmonkey now has a second crack at the TO in WiC :laugh4:

BTW Vasilefs if none of the current games are to your liking, you can start recruitment for a new hotseat. I'm sure several people would join.

[phonicsmonkey]

Just a reminder that I'm away I'm holiday until Sunday and so will be unable to sub for Zim or do admin stuff until then. Sorry about your computer Zim!

[Vasilefs]

BTW Vasilefs if none of the current games are to your liking, you can start recruitment for a new hotseat. I'm sure several people would join.

I will join new RTW hotseat,when/if it start :)

[Nightbringer]

Sorry to hear that Zim, I hope you get things worked out.

[Zim]

Thanks everyone. Quick question. Any problems with running mods over a steam version of the game? I'm having trouble locating my discs and I noticed MTW2 and Kingdoms are only $9.99 on Steam.


Always sucks for that to happen Zim, let me know if I can sub you in a game. On the bright side, phonicsmonkey now has a second crack at the TO in WiC :laugh4:


Thanks. I may need to take you up on that in EotTA, although I'm checking with Mithridate right now (He has the next turn after me anyway).

[phonicsmonkey]

Hey! someone help Zim out with his question about Steam!

And on a different topic: time for some new hotseat games?

Suggestions:
- a new britannia game
- a new crusades game
- a 'diplomacy' game in the battleaxe mod (see the New Game Ideas thread)
- Glorious Achievements 2 (with a new set of rules)

What would be most interesting?

[Nightbringer]

I would probably go for Glorious Achievements 2. The battleaxe mod game sounds fun, but I am too lazy to start installing even more mods.
As for Britannia and Crusades, I would be up for them, but can't shake the feeling of imbalance and predictability in them. If we do them, I would want to go for a fixed alliance thing or something new like that to minimize these factors.


As for steam, I don't know, but I think there is (or at least one) a thread about it in the SS forum.

[Myth]

I think any established mod has been made to work on steam. I know there are separate Steam install instructions for Stainless Steel. I would still use the original games however.

I'm up for all of the suggested games but I think LS must end first before we start another Crusades game (though I don't think they are predictable. Especially if it's a LB game and the forts cost 2500 gold)

[Myth]

FYI I'm away from morrow until Sunday. Subs:

CoG! - anyone of my allies
WoTK2 - anyone but Zim and Monkey
FN - I prefer this be delayed for me to play it as it's a delicate LB game.
EotA - any one of my allies.
MoT - I prefer this is delayed, but If I must be subbed have slysnake do it.
RRR - just skip over my turn and have the next player in line play. I'll catch up on the turn after.

[Zim]

Sorry everyone, after a long weekend and waiting forever for my gamersgate version of MTW2 to download, there was some kind of error and I have to start over. I'll start seeking subs while I get it redownloaded.

Same error on the second download. Something about not being able to detect the default language for installation...

Edit: Tried a third time. Here's the message that I get just as the download ends: "Cannot determine the installed game language for Medieval II Total War: Gold"

[Rougeman]

http://forums.totalwar.com/showthread.php/2650-Language-error

Zim

[Zim]

Thanks Rougeman . I'll give that a try asap.

A note to everyone, I will be a bit scarce for a day or two and then out of town through next Monday night.

Subs:

EotTA: Myth or Mithridate
WotK: Phonics
WiC: Phonics
MoT: Nightbringer or Nigel

If a turn can't be subbed go ahead and skip it, although for WiC and WotK especially I'd like the turn subbed if at all possible.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

WotK: Phonics
WiC: Phonics[/B]
MoT: Nightbringer or Nigel

If a turn can't be subbed go ahead and skip it, although for WiC and WotK especially I'd like the turn subbed if at all possible.

No pressure for phonics, right?

[Zim]

Well, I do fully expect to lose in both no matter what, and have had both subbed a couple turns now. He could probably just skip them and I wouldn't notice. :clown:


No pressure for phonics, right?

[phonicsmonkey]

Always happy to sub for Zim!

However I will be away Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday next week at a conference so that will be a no-play period for me.

[Myth]

Guys I was on a business trip that took twice as long as expected. I am beat and will go to bed now, I'll answer my PMs and play my turns tomorrow.

[Zim]

I'm out. Have a good weekend and Saint Patrick's Day everyone!

[Myth]

Wow... Check out the second thread (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=527534) of the new features of SS 7.0 - Godlike difficulty anyone? I'm officially stopping any SP play until it comes out. Not that I'm playing SP now but..

Oh, and apparently TATW 3.1 (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=500418) has been released, complete with the unique settlements!

[Thanatos Eclipse]

Maybe I'm just really slow, but I've always been frustrated with medieval ranged units because I couldn't get them to melee attack until they ran out of ammo, so the only way I could get them to attack close before that was to run them into the enemy. Turns out all you have to do is hold ALT :/

I'm both extreme happy to find this out and very depressed that it was so simple...

[LooseCannon1]

Wow... Check out the second thread (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=527534) of the new features of SS 7.0 - Godlike difficulty anyone? I'm officially stopping any SP play until it comes out. Not that I'm playing SP now but..


It sounds interesting but some of the changes may be detrimental to hotseat play. And we found (actually Byg found) that scripted commands and options don't work in hotseats during the BGR game. It was 60+ turns in when he realized some things weren't working. It will remain to be seen. I'll probably create another install just to test things out.

[Myth]

I'm travelling tonight and will be able to play my turns tomorrow, if any come up. However, from Wednesday until Sunday I will be away. Subs:

WotK, EotA, CoG! - Any who are on my team. For WotK I consider the Moors to not be allied with our team.
Europa I - Nightbringer
WiC - I really prefer not to be subbed, plus I have no one to assign really. Also, it's a tricky situation with the siege equipment and it being LB.
RRR - I still haven't had the time to play my term, someone else can take over and I will play after them.
MoT - slysnake can sub me.

[Zim]

Hey everyone, I'm back. Work kept me busy a couple days after returning from the trip.

I'll becatching up over the weekend. Sorry for any inconvenience. :bow:

[LooseCannon1]

What the hell happened here today? The default style is now some Shogun BS? It makes my eyes bleed!!! Somebody help ME!!!! I almost spit my beer out.

edit: Oh thank god I've fixed it.

[Húrin the Steadfast]

Whats with people getting drunk every Friday? I havent drink in about a month and i don't have the urge to drink again. Drinking like that only makes you more dumb. Am i the only one who likes being sober more then drunk?

[phonicsmonkey]

It's good that you are happy with being sober - it suggests that you are comfortable in your life and in yourself and don't feel the need to escape

[Nightbringer]

I prefer being sober. But it can be fun to drink a bit once in a while.

[Visor]

I drink for fun rather then to get drunk. Unlike everyone else around me...

That said, there IS a german club nearby, and it IS my birthday quite soon.... :tongue:

[Húrin the Steadfast]

It's good that you are happy with being sober - it suggests that you are comfortable in your life and in yourself and don't feel the need to escape
Indeed, escaping by drink is for losers and drifters.

[phonicsmonkey]

Indeed, escaping by drink is for losers and drifters.

I think that's a very judgmental stance to take. Everyone in their life will run up against problems and it's not always easy to deal with them in the right way.

[Zim]

Tried the registry cleaner. Although I was able to locate and have removed some random MTW2 files that were still on my computer it wasn't enough. Decided to just go ahead and order a copy off of amazon (only about $8). Now I just need to wait for it to come in. Apologies to my subs.

[Zim]

Say, trying to find the right version of 1.05 for my copy of Kingdoms. Not only is it hard to find on CA's main website, but after I found a working link it turned out to be the wrong version.

I have the gold version, everything in English on the front, English and German on the back, with a link for sega-europe. U.K. version? Continental Europe?

Edit: Got it from some help from a certain simian. It was the UK Gold version.

[phonicsmonkey]

Hi guys, the Lords of the Danube RPG is really starting to get interesting!

The King has just apparently been assassinated by persons unknown right in the middle of a war with the ERE and the Cumans. Meanwhile to the west Venice is sitting in forts on our border.

It's all going to kick off in a big way in the next ten turns or so as we go to war on all fronts!

Problem is, we're a little short on players. There are three avatars which could be adopted by new players.

If you are interested in joining, post here, or PM Nightbringer, or post in the Lotd OOC thread in the sub-forum.

Join the game, it's the most fun you can have playing TW with your clothes on! :laugh4:

[Nightbringer]

Careful now, the next king may turn up dead with his clothes off :)

[phonicsmonkey]

Careful now, the next king may turn up dead with his clothes off :)

I don't think anybody wants to see that

[Myth]

OK so I'm here until Sunday. From Monday onward I will be away for a week - first business trips, and then the Orthodox Easter.

[Zim]

I hereby volunteer to sub for the TO in his absence. ~;)

[Myth]

I will actually be able to play on Thursday evening.

[phonicsmonkey]

Time for another hotseat or two?

Let me know if you guys have appetite and I'll start a game for you and admin it.

I can't join any more games because my second child is due to arrive very soon, but I'm happy to run them.

[Myth]

Well I do remember a Britannia challenge from you? I fear it took so long to set it up, Vasilefs might have left us for greener pastures.

Also, I really want to give that 100 years war mod a try as England, either a hotseat or an RPG (though I rather don't have the time for an RPG I gather). I installed LTC and the mod seems wonderful and quite close to vanilla in looks.

Also, I'm waiting for SS 7.0 to come out so we can have a Glorious Achievements 2 game.

A TATW 3.2 RPG is something I'd really like to see, if not play in. Perhaps I should run it?

[phonicsmonkey]

Hi guys

My daughter was born at 2.30am this morning - I've attached a photo for you to enjoy.

Needless to say I'll be less active here than usual over the next few weeks...

[Myth]

Congratulations phonicsmonkey ! I wish her a long, healthy and happy life! :scastle:

On an unrelated note, I'm away until Monday for holiday reasons.

[Visor]

Congratulations phonicsmonkey!

I second Myth's words.

[Nightbringer]

Congratulations phonics!
Thirding the words of myth. :)

[Zim]

Congrats Phonics! So that's were you disappeared to when we were chatting that night. ~;)

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Congratulations, phonicsmonkey!

You know what they say.. one kid gets spoiled, two kids will fight each other but three kids is perfect.. ~;)

[Cecil XIX]

Congratulations, phonicsmonkey!

[phonicsmonkey]

Many thanks for all the kind words everyone - things are going great, she is healthy and very cute!

On a totally unrelated topic I'd like your feedback on the Org's front page.

Do you visit it? Is it useful and interesting? How does it compare to other sites you visit?

[Myth]

I have the link to the TR as my main .org page. I absolutely skip the front page.

[LooseCannon1]

The org has a front page?:laugh4: Other than the Throne Room?:belly: I do like Myth-keep the tab open here.:holiday2: It's not like I'm interested in other TW games (Ok. I'm not-I'm still anti-Steam.) but it's here first then other places. Bu even those are rare and I haven't seen the front page in a year.

[Nightbringer]

Ya, I'm the same, I have the throne room and game room bookmarked, and just go strait there.

[Húrin the Steadfast]

Same here. :bow:

[Cecil XIX]

I tend to use short urls like 'totalwar.org' rather than bookmarks, so I see the front page rather regularly. I don't have much interest in what goes on outside the Throne Room either, but every once in a while I catch something that interests me like that Crusader Kings 2 challenge.

[Zim]

Bah, Succession games must be for old fogeys like me.

Where's that old man with cane smilie when you need him? :clown:

[phonicsmonkey]

Bah, Succession games must be for old fogeys like me.

Where's that old man with cae smilie when you need him? :clown:

Well, we've got one going on in EB, although it seems to have died a death recently...so maybe not just for old fogeys!

My problem with succession games is that I don't really have time to play TW SP anymore. One turn at a time with hotseats suits me fine but the rest of a succession game would be waiting ages for me to complete my reign...

[Myth]

It's not dead. Merely waiting on me to remember to play my turn :wall:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I asked this some time ago but why don't we have 2012 category in the Downloads section?

[Zim]

Absolutely no good reason. I'll pm one of the tech admins right now and see if that can be fixed.

[Zim]

Done. Note the new category is empty. To get at previously uploaded just click on the dropdown under "category", choose 2011, and hit "go".

[phonicsmonkey]

Maybe we should ditch the PBM Announcements sub-forum too as it seems not to be working anyway?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I think so. I've never check that forum anyway. I rather check those threads with the saves.

[Zim]

I don't think people use that subforum very often, especially when they can generally find things in the uploader subforum.

If we do end up removing it perhaps wait a little while until all the current saves are in the 2012 section of the uploader section?

[Zim]

Say, just out of curiosity (and to give future ideas about forum games here) would anyone mind listing a couple strategy games they enjoy? There's no rule saying Throne Room games must always be TW games.

As an example some favorites of mine are Europa Universalis 3, Mount and Blade, and the old Dawn of War games, and I've been wanting to try out the new Crusader Kings. Among TW games I also enjoyed TWS2 and ETW (much better after all patches), but haven't played either in a while.

[Nightbringer]

Say, just out of curiosity (and to give future ideas about forum games here) would anyone mind listing a couple strategy games they enjoy? There's no rule saying Throne Room games must always be TW games.

As an example some favorites of mine are Europa Universalis 3, Mount and Blade, and the old Dawn of War games, and I've been wanting to try out the new Crusader Kings. Among TW games I also enjoyed TWS2 and ETW (much better after all patches), but haven't played either in a while.

CIV 4. Advance Wars (not exactly a possibility lol). I like the old DoW games, although in a pretty non competitive way. Starcraft 2. RTW. Sins of a Solar Empire. Homeworld 2, although I don't even own it because I can't find it :(

[Visor]

Well Age of Empires/Kings have been my favourite for a long time, and I quite enjoy Stronghold Crusader as well. Granted these are RTS, not turn based games.

[phonicsmonkey]

Dune 2!

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I have picked up Knights of Honor once again. I find it quite interesting. Also I play occasionally EU3, Victoria 2 and HoI3. I recently bought NTW and ETW as well so I've played them too but I like NTW much more. Space Empires 5 and Faces of War (Men of War kind of game)as well. The latter I play through mission editor though...

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Anyone interested in a mini-RPG using one of the NTW Napoleons campaigns? I'm thinking Italian campaign. It gives a chance to play a historical characters rather than game created ones. Also, small number of players could allow us to progress faster.

[Zim]

I would be, I'd just need to buy Napoleon.

Hey everyone, I'll be a little scarce for the next week and a half, then things should level out. I'll try to keep up with turns or give notice when I can't do them.

[Cecil XIX]

I'm quite partial to the "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" series, though I don't know quite how accessible they would be to someone who hasn't read the novel. The demo's available on Fileplanet, (http://www.fileplanet.com/189920/180000/fileinfo/Romance-of-The-Three-Kingdoms-XI---Demo) I reccommend it to everyone.

Regarding a Napoleon RPG, I'm afraid I don't have it either. Not saying I wouldn't necessarily join it, though.

[Myth]

To all the games I'm up in and my fellow players - it's been pretty hectic for me. I am organizing an event and a presentation for the 30th, and I have until the 24th to do so since the 24th and 25th are holidays in Bulgaria. I'm working overtime from home, and I only have time for eating and the gym. Not even Diablo 3.

Also, we had an earthquake right near Sofia last night around 3 AM, 6/10 on the scale. Fun times. I promise I will play all my turns tonight and designate subs for my 24th--27th holiday.

[Myth]

I'm officially unavailable from today until Sunday. Subs:

CoG!: anyone from my team.
MoT: slysnake
WiC: slysnake
WotK: anyone from my team or skip it.
EI: nightbringer
EotTA: anyone from my team

[Zim]

Next week and a half turned out a bit longer (by about another week) than I'd hoped. Things have begun to cool down and I'm back. It may take me a few days to catch up but I should be there soon. Apologies for the long absence.

[Zim]

Just a test.

Zim

[Nigel]

So, did your test work, Zim ?

~;)

[Zim]

Nope. Was wondering if I could "mention" myself or not.


So, did your test work, Zim ?

~;)

[Myth]

Awesome derby starting. Depending on who wins, I'll start either a Portugal or Leon-Castille SS campaign and see it trough :)

[phonicsmonkey]

Spain are soooo boring to watch. Like arthouse cinema, which you appreciate on an intellectual level but secretly you'd rather be watching Die Hard.

[Myth]

It took them 90 minutes to get warmed up, but they got there! If they were up against a team that had a stronger offence than one guy (who is rather delicate IMO) they'd have suffered though. The thing is, the game ended 0:0 in the regular time + extensions, and now I have to do penalties of my own. I must compare the rosters of the two factions to choose :laugh4:

Though I've tried a SS Eearly Portugal campaign once and I thought I could make like England and bum-rush the Moors with a Crusade. Boy was I wrong. I got swarmed in a never-ending tide of turbans and crescents.

[Myth]

I am going away for one week since I took days off from work. I want to be subbed as follows:

CoG! - anyone from my team. NB knows the password.
MoT - slysnake
EI - Nightbringer
WotK2 - anyone from my allies
EotA - anyone from my allies though Mithridate knows where I'm heded and knows the terrain and enemy locations so I'd prefer it were him

[Nightbringer]

Myth, could you resend me the pw, I don't think I have that pm anymore. :)

[GeneralHankerchief]

Are there any current TW RPGs going on? I know The King's RTW one is in a kind of limbo, but over the past 2-3 weeks I've been binging through the Throne Room archives and wouldn't mind playing in another one. :yes:

[Cecil XIX]

It seems we're in a bit of an interregnum. I'd like to host a game myself, but I'm waiting to see the result of Myth's Arena of Kings poll to see where interest lies.

In the meantime though, I was thinking about doing multiplayer campaign with Shogun 2. Interested?

[phonicsmonkey]

There is also the TWS2 RPG we designed and never started. I'd join it if someone did...

[Nightbringer]

I don't even have S2TW, so I'm a no go on that one.

[Myth]

I have it but I don't really like the new sluggish engine. I would much rather play the RTW RPG anyway. However TS2 I hear has planned development with skill trees for your general, rather than random trait aquisition. If that's the case, maybe it'd be a better platform for a RPG.

I've been talking to people about what games to start up. I think there is a need for a new game or two now. SilverShield got me an idea - starting a Broken Crescent 2.3 game, since the old versions are much better than the new one.

Phonicsmonkey has fond memories f that mod, as does Zim and I think Thanatos as well. What do you guys think? Do we have a link to even get this mod?

[phonicsmonkey]

phonicsmonkey has fond memories f that mod, as does Zim and I think Thanatos as well. What do you guys think? Do we have a link to even get this mod?

Even better, I still have 1.05 and its patches saved on my HDD. I could host them on torrent for you guys if anyone is interested.

I have to say though, it's not a particularly balanced mod. With player skillz at the high level they are these days it may be a walkover for one or two factions....I won't say which ones! :laugh4:

Might be a better setting for an RPG? I'd love that...always wanted an RPG set in an Islamic faction

However i really think for the health of the TR we need to have some games in the new TW titles, to bring in new faces

[Nightbringer]

Even better, I still have 1.05 and its patches saved on my HDD. I could host them on torrent for you guys if anyone is interested.

I have to say though, it's not a particularly balanced mod. With player skillz at the high level they are these days it may be a walkover for one or two factions....I won't say which ones! :laugh4:

Might be a better setting for an RPG? I'd love that...always wanted an RPG set in an Islamic faction

However i really think for the health of the TR we need to have some games in the new TW titles, to bring in new faces

Isn't it impossible to play the new games in hotseat though?

I do agree, but I'm just not sure it will be possible.

[phonicsmonkey]

Isn't it impossible to play the new games in hotseat though?

I do agree, but I'm just not sure it will be possible.

It is, hence RPGs and succession games.

Also encourage AARs of multiplayer campaigns like Mod vs Mod

[Myth]

http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4902320_460s.jpg


:bounce:

[LooseCannon1]

About using newer games for hotseats. I gauge interest in a game by how many people are in each sub-forum as listed by the "views" on the main forum list. Right now 13 people are viewing all the Shogun 2 forums which is more than the 9 viewing all Empire/Napoleon sub-forums. But Rome has 21 and Medieval 2 has 23. It's the same (in general) over at the net with M2 hosted mods being seen by more people than all S2, Empire , and Napoleon forums combinded. The newer games have less interest in general plus less modable and limited (if any) multiplayer. Oh, and the single forum/sub-forum here with the most viewers? You're reading it.:2thumbsup: Yes, the Throne Room is number 1. Now if we can get those 26 people to play.

[Nightbringer]

Hey everyone, I'm thinking of getting a new kingdoms hotseat campaign going as all the current ones have ended. I thought it might be interesting to try one with fixed alliances, to try to accommodate for some of the balance issues people have been noticing in kingdoms.

I'm posting this to gauge interest on which campaign people are most interested in.

So what do you all think? Britain? Teutonic? Crusades?

Domen,

I see you have been engaged int he discussion about the balance in these games. Would you like to try playing one over here in the Throne Room?

[Myth]

I have been super busy these past few days. I worked overtime - utnil 2 AM on Monday night and until 11 pm last night. From now on though I'll have a lot more time. I vote for the Crusades campaign as it's the one I am least familiar with, having played 4 games in Teutonic/Britannia (and won 3 of them). Furthermore the Crusades campaign has more factions and special abilites for the starting Fls which make it very interesting.

Just make sure that spies can't open anything to prevent the Spy Wars we h ave in MoT, and that one needs two units of Catapults to open a fort (since they cost 2500 a piece and are made of stone) and four catapults to open a stone city.

This makes early aggression possible (instead of waiting for trebs) but it's not that easy to get 4 catapults. One treb should still open anything, and ballistae should open nothing naturally.

I like team battles, though perhaps the Crusades campaign will be better off as a FFA? I also have a question, do the rest of you value a victory in a FFA game less if it's a team victory instead of a solo victory?

[Nightbringer]

I also have a question, do the rest of you value a victory in a FFA game less if it's a team victory instead of a solo victory?

Personally no. Although if the alliance block was too large it might be a bit lame depending no the number of players left.

[Myth]

I'm talking 2 factions who claim allied victory instead of being forced to massacre each other for 20 turns after they've been fighting alongside one another and eliminated everyone else together.

[Domen]

Domen,

I see you have been engaged int he discussion about the balance in these games. Would you like to try playing one over here in the Throne Room?

I would play one but not at the moment, I'm quite busy too and I already have hmmm +/- 6 HS campaigns on another forum.

It's more than enough for me considering the amount of my free time so I don't take any new ones for the time being.

When I finish one, I can start one new. ~;)



I also have a question, do the rest of you value a victory in a FFA game less if it's a team victory instead of a solo victory?


No. And team victories are more frequent than solo victories. Maybe because players rather like to claim a team victory than continue the HS for 30 more turns, trying to destroy each others' powerful factions. Long "positional war" of 2 equally strong enemies is not so funny.

And also when someone is "selfish" and wants to achieve a solo win, other players tend to unite against such person. :yes:



Although if the alliance block was too large it might be a bit lame depending no the number of players left.


Yeah.

Imagine all factions uniting against TO in Teutonic campaign and then claiming victory and campaign end after destroying TO. :rolleyes:

But that would be an extreme example.

[Ignoramus]

Having had a bit of a hiatus from the Throne Room, I'd be rearing to get back into some hotseats. I'd be up for a Crusades and a Britannia one, if they were hosted.

Edit:


Are there any current TW RPGs going on? I know The King's RTW one is in a kind of limbo, but over the past 2-3 weeks I've been binging through the Throne Room archives and wouldn't mind playing in another one. :yes:

:yes:

[Thanatos Eclipse]

A team battle for crusades would be problematic at the beginning due to there being only 5 starting factions, but if you skipped the game ahead to when the Venetians arrived you might be able to work out a 2 or 3 team game. Although it's been forever since I've actually seen the Venetian invasion so I have no idea how their forces would compare to the other factions.

[Nightbringer]

A team battle for crusades would be problematic at the beginning due to there being only 5 starting factions, but if you skipped the game ahead to when the Venetians arrived you might be able to work out a 2 or 3 team game. Although it's been forever since I've actually seen the Venetian invasion so I have no idea how their forces would compare to the other factions.

Well, the team battles discussions have been more about Britannia and Teutonics, so we could do a normal FFA crusades game and a team Britania one how about?

[Cecil XIX]

A team battle for crusades would be problematic at the beginning due to there being only 5 starting factions, but if you skipped the game ahead to when the Venetians arrived you might be able to work out a 2 or 3 team game. Although it's been forever since I've actually seen the Venetian invasion so I have no idea how their forces would compare to the other factions.

Going off of memory, they bring three separate armies, though I don't remember quite how big they were. They've got all types of units so they're handicapped in auto-resolve, but I seem to remember they come with catapults.

[Cecil XIX]

I'm planning to get started on the "Diplomacy" (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?141383-Contest-Arena-of-Kings&p=2053451655&viewfull=1#post2053451655) hotseat soon. However, I'm not sure how to adjust the rules to account for Battleaxe's particular features, and was wondering if I could get some help from people more experienced.

1. Forts in Battleaxe are prohibitively expensive by design. That means lead battles aren't practical, right?
2. Catapult makers require a minor city or a fortress. But since everyone starts with castles, a catapult would only be useful under the normal rules if someone chose to convert to a large. How should the rules regarding opening walls be changed to account for this nerfing of artillery?

[phonicsmonkey]

1. Forts in Battleaxe are prohibitively expensive by design. That means lead battles aren't practical, right?

It depends on what the map is like. If there are a lot of trees about we could go LB and it would add some real tension as you'd have to hide each turn...


2. Catapult makers require a minor city or a fortress. But since everyone starts with castles, a catapult would only be useful under the normal rules if someone chose to convert to a large. How should the rules regarding opening walls be changed to account for this nerfing of artillery?

Not sure I follow...are you saying catapults aren't useful because no-one has the level of walls that require them?

[Cecil XIX]

What I'm worried about is that the game might be finished before anyone is realistically able to recruit catapults, not to mention trebuchets which require a higher level settlement.

[phonicsmonkey]

What I'm worried about is that the game might be finished before anyone is realistically able to recruit catapults, not to mention trebuchets which require a higher level settlement.

Ah I see.

Well if it's an AR game you can either leave it as it is, in which case players would have to bring enough men to the fight an leave them in siege for a turn, or just make ballistae able to open everything.

Alternatively if you don't mind messing around with the starting position you could use console commands to give everyone a fortress and siege workshop from the beginning.

If it's a fought battles game you are pretty much forced to either change things at the start or use some rules which allow agents to open the gates.

[Nightbringer]

alright, for the kingdoms games, anyone have a preference for AR vs fought? If not, I'll probably make the Britannia one AR, and the crusades one fought.

[Myth]

alright, for the kingdoms games, anyone have a preference for AR vs fought? If not, I'll probably make the Britannia one AR, and the crusades one fought.

My thoughts exactly.

[Myth]

I'm playing TATW 3.2 and I must say it's the best LOTR game I've ever tried. It's so much polished than the older version we use in the hotseat - truly a pleasure to play.

[Myth]

It's my birthday today BTW. I'll be back on Monday.

[Nightbringer]

Happy birthday myth!

[Nigel]

glad I saw this post still in time :grin:

Happy Birthday, Myth !! :balloon:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Happy Birthday, Myth!!

[Visor]

Happy Birthday Myth. Don't get too drunk now. :wink:

[phonicsmonkey]

Hi all, just passing by and it's nice to see all the activity in here!

[Nightbringer]

Good to see you phonics. How's life going?

[Myth]

Good to see you're lurking from time to time phonicsmonkey. Zim seems to have gone on a spiritual quest far away from the TR. Are there any chances that your life will be al ittle less hectic so you can come back for at least one game?

[phonicsmonkey]

I'm afraid not Myth. My baby daughter has been very sick, in hospital. She's out now and back home but needs a lot of help to do basic things like feeding and movement. My wife and I are trying to adjust to this new reality and I just don't have room in my life for Throne Room games anymore.

I'll lurk here and keep an eye on things but I can't join any games. I'd only have to drop them anyway.

It's nice to see things are in good hands here, we'll done you two.

[Myth]

I'm sorry to hear that Phonics, I hope she gets well. Babies have a healing factor like Wolverine from X-Men so she should be fine, remember to think happy thoughts and have faith!

[Nightbringer]

I too hope your daughter gets well soon. I fully support your decision to focus on that! Best of luck from me, and I'm sure everyone at the Throne Room!

[Vasilefs]

Jut to say Hello! :)

[Nightbringer]

Hello Vasilefs!

[Visor]

Jut to say Hello! :)
Hello again. How's it going?

I'm afraid not Myth. My baby daughter has been very sick, in hospital. She's out now and back home but needs a lot of help to do basic things like feeding and movement. My wife and I are trying to adjust to this new reality and I just don't have room in my life for Throne Room games anymore.

I'll lurk here and keep an eye on things but I can't join any games. I'd only have to drop them anyway.

It's nice to see things are in good hands here, we'll done you two.

I'm also sorry to hear that. I hope everything turns out fine, and good luck to you and your wife. As long as you don't forget us entirely. :tongue:

[Myth]

Hi Vasilefs, and welcome! I'm glad you decided to come by since I pm-ed you in the TWC. Care to join one of our games? There's a free spot in Empires of the east as it's only turn 2 and the ERE player has not been doing his turns yet. Also, Vikingetid needs a sixth player. Check them out!

[Ferret]

Any chance of there being another TATW hotseat in the near future? Or was it deemed unsuitable for hotseat play?

Edit: And before you ask, yes I have seen Vikingetid and I am certainly interested. I'll check out the mod at some point this week and give the rules a more thorough look before commiting. It doesn't look as if Cecil has been here in a while anyway...

[Myth]

Hi Elite Ferret, Cecil is indeed around, but he doesn't post much. He helped us with a delicate issue back during the summer. TATW 3.1 is great, I'm enjoying it a lot for SP. If we set up a hotseat it should not be more than a 2v2 though, since the distances are absurd relative t the movement points of the armies. As the Higih Elves last game I spend the entirety of the game moving two armies from the east coast of Middle Earth to the Gondorian front.

Something like Rohan/Gondor vs Mordor/Haard could be fun though.

[Ferret]

Yeah that's the impression I got from skimming through the thread. It's a shame but I guess having predetermined alliances and very defined battle areas isn't ideal for a hotseat. It does feel like a very slow mod to me, takes a while for anything major to happen.

Gondor/Rohan vs Mordor/Harad could indeed be fun, but I think I'd be very worried about the AI Isengard if I was Rohan.

Is anyone else interested? If not I guess I'll hang around for the next SS game.

[Húrin the Steadfast]

Europa I needs one player too i believe.

[Myth]

Guys, I wish you all happy holidays and want to let you know that I am away from tomorrow until the 2nd of January, 2013.

[Myth]

I`m on from my phone but i want to wish all of you fine TR warlords a fine new 2013 filled with much battle and strategy!!

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Happy New Year, Throneroomies! ~:)

[Nightbringer]

Happy new year everyone!

[phonicsmonkey]

Happy New Year Throne Room! I miss you guys

[Mithridate]

Happy New Year Throne Room! I miss you guysThe feeling is mutual, even from this runt whom barely got to know you :bow:

[Nightbringer]

Happy New Year Throne Room! I miss you guys

Same to you phonics, on both accounts!

[Myth]

Happy New Year Throne Room! I miss you guys

Happy New Year monkey! I hope you can come back some day.

[Nigel]

A Happy New Year,

to you, Monkey, and all my fellow Throne Room residents.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Congratulations to all the HoF award winners!! :balloon2:

[Myth]

This (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?584505-First-impressions-from-beta-testers) is a mod I can't wait to try in SP and a hotseat... I think it's going to complete the "big three" along with Stainless Steel 7.0 and TATW 3.2

[Myth]

I'm away from tomorrow until Monday.

[Brother Sam]

Does anybody have any suggestions for a nice simple game for me to join so that I can ease myself into the Throne Room? A bit of role-play, and a fair deal of patience with the other players! I own RTW and MTW II with Kingdoms - both are unmodded but I can easily download the required mod. My preference is Roman, but I'm definitely flexible. :)

[Nightbringer]

Unfortunately it is a little tricky to set up RTW hot seat so we don't currently have any games with it, but our Kingdoms and Empires game just got started off, is using the base game, and has some other relatively new players in it as well. Feel free to head over tote in game thread and claim a faction that I can change to human controlled for you. You would be a couple turns behind but it shouldn't be too much of a problem if you pick Russia for example since they are pretty isolated at the start.

Also, Welcome to the throne Room Brother Sam!

[Brother Sam]

Unfortunately it is a little tricky to set up RTW hot seat so we don't currently have any games with it, but our Kingdoms and Empires game just got started off, is using the base game, and has some other relatively new players in it as well. Feel free to head over tote in game thread and claim a faction that I can change to human controlled for you. You would be a couple turns behind but it shouldn't be too much of a problem if you pick Russia for example since they are pretty isolated at the start.

Also, Welcome to the throne Room Brother Sam!

Thanks Nightbringer! I've headed over. Thanks again for the welcome.

[Myth]

Welcome Brother Sam! Might I suggest Poland? The AI seems to have been good to them, as they have grown since the start of the game. They also possess good, high armour infantry, which is good for an AR game.

[Brother Sam]

On average, how long are we talking between turns, and indeed for a complete game? It seems to be taking an age to get round to my go!

[Nightbringer]

Things have been rather slow lately unfortunately, and turns can take around a couple of weeks to get through for everyone. As to games themselves, it really varies too much to be able to put a number on it. :)

[Myth]

Sorry, I had some PC issues. It didn't start correctly for some reason, I updated, scanned for viruses etc... I'll upload tonight.

[Myth]

Going on a business trip abroad, I'll be back on Wednesday.

[Myth]

Updated the thread tags for the TR, thanks to Husar's valuable help! :bow:

[phonicsmonkey]

Hmmm, got a bit dusty in the old Anteroom, I'd better clean it up a bit...

[Myth]

Well, well, well! Nice to see you around these parts again Monkey :yes: How have you been?

[Nightbringer]

Hey there monkey!

[phonicsmonkey]

I've been ok thanks - it's good to see a few games going on in here after all this time...are you guys playing the new RTW? Any good?

[Myth]

I've been ok thanks - it's good to see a few games going on in here after all this time...are you guys playing the new RTW? Any good?

We have some regulars but we really need fresh blood to sacrifice on the altar of the Hotseat gods. They are ever insatiable.

Rome II is great for me, I'm playing it and having a blast. I am planning on an RPG or succession game but I want the patches to stabilize somewhat.

[actionhanc]

Hello everyone, Just signed up for the ritual sacrifice. On which hotseat altar shall my blood be spilled?

[Myth]

Well apart from starting a new game (see the other thread where I proposed it). Also, I had proposed a co-op type of Hotseat (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?142804-SS-6-4-Fall-of-the-Eastern-Roman-Empire-cooperative-hotseat) (players vs. the AI) where we try to overthrow a massively bloated ERE blob with unlimited gold. Mind you, I'm not sure this one is winnable, but it might be fun.

[Mithridate]

Just wanted to drop by as a status update:

Nothing has really changed on my front and I have nothing new to tell you.
I hope to bring some real news and an eventual return here -

Best wishes

[Nightbringer]

haha, well good hearing from you mithridate!

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Hey! Came back to Org when I heard(actually read) that EB2 was released. So, I was wondering if it's possible to use it to create a hotseat game?

[Tonno]

Sorry... it is not.

[QueenUeue]

hello . im new here and i want to ask if there any hotseat campaign in the future that i can join ?