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Why, hello there. I have not seen the many a folk that wander 'round these lands.
I have come with a little project of mine I wanted to make a long time ago.
I have worked on it for 5 days, not really rushed but not really going for perfection either. I hope both the EB fans and EB members enjoy it and give me feedback. This is my first small cinematographic project, so it means a lot to me what people think of it. Whether you liked it or not. And if you (by grace of mighty Iuppiter) want this as your intro for your EB game, then I will send you the file without problems.
Enjoy!
P.S.: I wanted to make one, not about the might of Rome, but something more like from the viewpoint of the soldiers, particularly the hastati.
Enjoy! Again
EDIT: I made some changes and reuploaded the video. You can watch the new one here, or...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aDVrXyqsxw
Here's the old version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeEoe4iBIFI
Also, for the people that want to download it, here are the links:
For the New Version (http://www.mediafire.com/?463u7w60u0623dr)
For the Old Version. (http://www.mediafire.com/?ip2trwpota0p53c)
And please leave feedback :2thumbsup:
P.P.S.: You can watch my Lusotannan intro HERE (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?137211-Europa-Barbarorum-Lusotannan-Intro.).
~Jirisys ()
Populus Romanus
07-07-2011, 01:11
LOL @ 0:50!!!
LOL @ 0:50!!!
You like it or not?
~Jirisys ()
Populus Romanus
07-07-2011, 01:50
Yes:yes:
DeathFinger
07-07-2011, 10:12
i personnaly like it a lot, even if I'm not enough aware of Romans thoughts to confirm or counter the way you described the soldiers' way of thinking :yes:
I like it a lot. Especially the subtle change through time. At 1:18 I was thinking "well isn't that how it was for the farmers and allies in the 2nd Punic war- rather than earlier". And then I saw the Polybian principes and thought "aha!"
I would like the file for my EB intro please, yes.
i personnaly like it a lot, even if I'm not enough aware of Romans thoughts to confirm or counter the way you described the soldiers' way of thinking :yes:
Religious and Patriotic?
From what I read up while making the script they were. Very.
I like it a lot. Especially the subtle change through time. At 1:18 I was thinking "well isn't that how it was for the farmers and allies in the 2nd Punic war- rather than earlier". And then I saw the Polybian principes and thought "aha!"
I would like the file for my EB intro please, yes.
Well, I made a new version and I think I overwrote on the original file. But I can give it to you easily.
Just a matter of converting the old one's avi to wmv :)
EDIT: I added the new video :)
~Jirisys ()
Brave Brave Sir Robin
07-07-2011, 20:38
Very nice!
Thank you :bow:
I added the links for dowloading the .wmv
~Jirisys ()
Fluvius Camillus
07-07-2011, 23:14
This looks quite nice! Well done!
I also found this one on the forums by TheGhostOfCato, which I also think is very well made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK0OaAMHZUc
~Fluvius
One thing that I had to play with the camera for was that trees on mountains seemed like fences, like if they were placed scarcily and left me with a fence-like tree range on distant mountains.
Any reason for that?
~Jirisys ()
Julianus
07-08-2011, 06:48
Nice work, congratulations!
However, I can't help but notice that, where are all the horses gone? The patricians and knights also had their share of fighting I believe.
Nice work, congratulations!
However, I can't help but notice that, where are all the horses gone? The patricians and knights also had their share of fighting I believe.
From the O.P:
P.S.: I wanted to make one, not about the might of Rome, but something more like from the viewpoint of the soldiers, particularly the hastati.
The not-so rich people. :grin:
You did notice it's a bit more personal. No wide army shots, only middle and low shots of the people themselves.
~Jirisys ()
Molinaargh
07-08-2011, 16:44
Hmm this reminds me of something...
Hmm this reminds me of something...
Of what?
Didn't you block me?
~Jirisys ()
Molinaargh
07-08-2011, 18:43
Of what?
Didn't you block me?
~Jirisys ()
Reminds me of the video I did for the KH AAR, same music choice and very similar in general. And yeah, but I was browsing logged out and there's also a "view post" button.
Reminds me of the video I did for the KH AAR, same music choice and very similar in general. And yeah, but I was browsing logged out and there's also a "view post" button.
Oh geee, how nice. Another passive accusation of plagiarism. So nice of you to say it.
There is no possible way that one could choose a track because of the motif of the video, and choose the motif based on his 3 months of pre-planning before making it. No. Copying the track choice and generalities because of some undisclosed reason is the most accurate explanation.
Next time bring cookies instead.
~Jirisys ()
You guys are funny. I liked this video, even if I dislike much text, both in my own videos as well as others'. Keep practicing Jiri. It's fun.
I like that you added some action in the second one, rather than "we fight" the first should have had "we march" :P
Jebivjetar
07-09-2011, 00:50
Jiry put a lot of work in this video, and therefore i'll give it a plus ^^
I like that you added some action in the second one, rather than "we fight" the first should have had "we march" :P
You can interpret the text to be speaking to the images before, after or both. So it may be talking about the last images :wink:
Jiry put a lot of work in this video, and therefore i'll give it a plus ^^
Jiri. Thank you.
~Jirisys ()
Jebivjetar
07-09-2011, 01:47
Jiri. Thank you.
~Jirisys ()
Np, Jiry :)
Basileus_ton_Basileon
07-09-2011, 08:06
Jiry put a lot of work in this video, and therefore i'll give it a plus ^^
A nicely made video. Although a video on barbaroi, but a nice video nonetheless.
A nicely made video. Although a video on barbaroi, but a nice video nonetheless.
Xari Basileu. :bow:
~Jirisys ()
Apart from the phrasing "This army is so different" I loved it! Great job!
Apart from the phrasing "This army is so different" I loved it! Great job!
Good, because it was "This army so different". Without the Isssssss.
~Jirisys ()
Arthur, king of the Britons
07-09-2011, 23:46
Good stuff.
I've watched it a few times over the course of the last few days. My main feeling is that its a little too long. I know starting with bad critisism is not the right way to go but that is my main, overall impression. I don't know what exactly gives me that feeling but a little slow perhaps?
However, the movie is very nicely made. I started a Romani campaign a week or so ago and was just thinking about the lack of opening movie for them. There is nothing specifically wrong with it and a damn load of very nice things. Great job man and very impressive. I do like it.
Titus Marcellus Scato
07-11-2011, 17:24
Nice video, good editing. Not entirely sure about the choice of music - it's very peaceful and soothing, not really very warlike. Unlike many of the images in the vid.
Maybe the music should change to become more warlike and aggressive as the Polybian principes appear?
I've watched it a few times over the course of the last few days. My main feeling is that its a little too long. I know starting with bad critisism is not the right way to go but that is my main, overall impression. I don't know what exactly gives me that feeling but a little slow perhaps?
However, the movie is very nicely made. I started a Romani campaign a week or so ago and was just thinking about the lack of opening movie for them. There is nothing specifically wrong with it and a damn load of very nice things. Great job man and very impressive. I do like it.
Well, the point of the video was to make the everyday life of drafted men, leaving their peaceful homes and dayjobs, now suddenly becoming soldiers.
So, yeah. I wanted it slow, to adapt to both the music and the setting.
Nice video, good editing. Not entirely sure about the choice of music - it's very peaceful and soothing, not really very warlike. Unlike many of the images in the vid.
Maybe the music should change to become more warlike and aggressive as the Polybian principes appear?
Not really, they are just the same men, it should actually be more sad, since they were poorer and poorer. And ancient roman war music wasn't much different.
~Jirisys ()
Good, because it was "This army so different". Without the Isssssss.
~Jirisys ()
Touché.
Titus Marcellus Scato
07-12-2011, 17:37
Not really, they are just the same men, it should actually be more sad, since they were poorer and poorer. And ancient roman war music wasn't much different.
~Jirisys ()
Were Polybian legionaries really poorer than Camillan? They may have been poorer as farmers, but as legionaries wouldn't they have more opportunities for booty due to more campaigns further afield?
Given that they were better equipped, and that legionaries still provided their own equipment at this point, I doubt they were poorer.
Were Polybian legionaries really poorer than Camillan? They may have been poorer as farmers, but as legionaries wouldn't they have more opportunities for booty due to more campaigns further afield?
When Hannibal marched around Italy, their farms were lost and/or burned when the war of attrition began. The roman standart for accepting recruits was lowered, so that even most proletarii were included in the adsidui. Indicating that either people became poorer and could not afford their equipment, or that the drafting population took a heavy blow. Or possibly both.
Given that they were better equipped, and that legionaries still provided their own equipment at this point, I doubt they were poorer.
In the punic wars the state began equipping their troops because the soldiers could not afford it, so the triarii, principes and hastati system of the camillan/servian system of the very divisive five classes able to serve as adsidui becomes bogus, the only thing that distinguished them was the small amount of money between them and the lack of experience by the drafts. Let us not forget that at this point all three of them had the same shield and similar armament. The camillan distinction faded away.
Also at this point the allies were supporting Rome, even as some joined Hannibal in the fight after Cannae (Taras, Syrakousai, Capua, etc), so the allies were both battered by the loses at Trebia and, in return were not going to support rome with many men.
(I cannot remember the source to this, but I am certain I read it somewhere) The farmers then sold their states at a low price in order to have a little money, instead of a burned farm. So the latifundia expanded, but the small landowners declined. Certainly after the crisis of the Punic wars ended, Rome promised land for return of military service
The marian legionaries were granted land after retirement.
So there.
~Jirisys ()
my cat did not like the music one bit! he was yelling at me and was pawing at the speakers until it stopped...lol
my cat did not like the music one bit! he was yelling at me and was pawing at the speakers until it stopped...lol
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/7/12/386bee69-4454-4550-96bc-370515bb203d.jpg
~Jirisys ()
In the punic wars the state began equipping their troops because the soldiers could not afford it, so the triarii, principes and hastati system of the camillan/servian system of the very divisive five classes able to serve as adsidui becomes bogus, the only thing that distinguished them was the small amount of money between them and the lack of experience by the drafts.
But wasn't that just a stop-gap measure to raise more troops, not a permanent policy? AFAIK The Romans didn't dispense entirely with property requirements until Marius (yes, I know he wasn't the first, but until then it was still on the books). No doubt the roots of the manpower crisis were being laid during the second Punic War, but manpower shortages do not seem to have hindered Rome much in the decades following it.
BTW, I do like your video. The only point of critique is the pila-throwing hastati: it leads the viewer to expect a combat-scene, but that does not follow. I suggest to leave the fighting animations to the end.
But wasn't that just a stop-gap measure to raise more troops, not a permanent policy? AFAIK The Romans didn't dispense entirely with property requirements until Marius (yes, I know he wasn't the first, but until then it was still on the books). No doubt the roots of the manpower crisis were being laid during the second Punic War, but manpower shortages do not seem to have hindered Rome much in the decades following it.
Yes, it was only a momentaneous measure, I forgot to clarify.
BTW, I do like your video. The only point of critique is the pila-throwing hastati: it leads the viewer to expect a combat-scene, but that does not follow. I suggest to leave the fighting animations to the end.
At the beginning? Well, yes, but the only good footage I got was with massilian hoplites, so it was a no-no for Camillan hastati.
~Jirisys ()
Come on Jiri, what's the last book you read on ancient Rome, huh? (=
Again, nice vid!
Come on Jiri, what's the last book you read on ancient Rome, huh? (=
Again, nice vid!
A teeny encyclopedia that my college has and a few pages of an architecture book (=
~Jirisys ()
moonburn
07-13-2011, 22:04
i think subtitles intead of black frames with text would make both the movie and the message more fluid you want to build up a momentum to make people watch the movie and then jump on a roman campaigning wanting to conquer the entire world a bit like total war makes with their previews wich ofc builds up expectations that most of the times gets ruined (they should read more seneca about the broken expectations imho)
your advantage is that people will not be disapointed and if they are then they can grab phyrrus and destroy rome as a revenge
Well, roman campaigns are quite boring, that's why I like my KH one. Subtitles do not always catch the full attention of the reader; since they are watching the frame itself.
~Jirisys ()
I turn subtitles off. They're distracting. I hate them.
I turn subtitles off. They're distracting. I hate them.
Too bad you can't turn off subtitles on a video.
~Jirisys (Shameless bump. Arthur; be proud.)
Arthur, king of the Britons
08-03-2011, 15:43
I am very proud. Of you.
~Arthur, king of the Britons (shameless post-increase, all according to plan. :evil:)
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