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Koga No Goshi
06-26-2001, 11:54
In the current game, naginata and heavy cavalry have the same armor ratings, right? So what is the point of naginata cavalry supposed to be in the expansion? I suppose they'll be more mobile, but won't work as well as missle fire absorbers because missle fire hits mounted units so much easier than ground units. So doesn't that kind of cancel out their most basic purpose?

Personally, I would have much rather seen No-Dachi Cavalry or an entirely new mounted unit rather than a mounted version of the current ones.



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Koga no Goshi

Why did you bring 16 Female Ashigaru? Keep clicking weather, they're only strong one week a month.

Dark Phoenix
06-26-2001, 17:11
Well monks use the Naginata as there weapon so it can be used for attacking. There is quite a long thread in the history forum on this unit regarding the relevance of this unit you may want to check it out.

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DoragonPhoenix of the Clan Doragon (http://clandragon2.homestead.com/Dragon01.html)

I am no hero I just like to hit people in the head. :p

Vanya
06-26-2001, 20:51
LOL You seem to suggest we may one day field Buddhist Monk Cavalry! http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

Or perhaps Jesuit Crusaders...

Anssi Hakkinen
06-26-2001, 21:48
Here's one of the many Nagi Cavalry threads (http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000109.html).

In a nutshell, they will be quite unlike the "foot" naginata. They are best comparable to HC, but are slower, less well armored, but have a higher attack value. If this were an ideal world, they would be the paper-scissors-stone match of the WM, able to defeat them in direct HtH combat, but whether this dream is ever realized remains to be seen.

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Vanya
06-27-2001, 20:59
I just had a revelation! I am traveling to Indonesia to fulfill it as we speak!

The way to defeat the monks is this: field an army of Komodo dragons, so that they will bite of the holy toes of the monks, and render them idle and defenseless, so that you may cut them down!

Geenius...

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Kraellin
06-27-2001, 23:29
uummm...been under a lot of stress lately, vanya?

K.

Dark Phoenix
06-27-2001, 23:39
Well Vanya I would watch out for the police while you were there. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/wink.gif

Also you could drop by only a couple of hours away. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

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DoragonPhoenix of the Clan Doragon (http://clandragon2.homestead.com/Dragon01.html)

I am no hero I just like to hit people in the head. :p

Shiro
06-27-2001, 23:57
*shudders at the thought of being in DP's home*

Dark Phoenix
06-27-2001, 23:59
You dont have to, you werent invited. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

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DoragonPhoenix of the Clan Doragon (http://clandragon2.homestead.com/Dragon01.html)

I am no hero I just like to hit people in the head. :p

Shiro
06-28-2001, 00:03
He, he, thank goodness for that.


Pssttt...Vanya, tell him you'll be too busy with them dragons!

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Dark Phoenix
06-28-2001, 00:07
But I am a member of the Dragons. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/tongue.gif

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DoragonPhoenix of the Clan Doragon (http://clandragon2.homestead.com/Dragon01.html)

I am no hero I just like to hit people in the head. :p

Vanya
06-28-2001, 00:35
Uh... I may need some help carrying these dragons... they quite large and heavy... and quite frisky...

(Good thing I have that raw porterhouse steak in my pocket... y'know... just in case...!)

Koga No Goshi
06-28-2001, 02:49
Kimodo dragons?! They unbalance the game. I mean, they cost less than heavy cavalry and can defeat warrior monks AND heavy cavalry. Why get anything else? I think from now on people will only use kimodo dragons and muskets. That will suck! We must up the price on kimodo dragons. I am protesting kimodo dragons! (Fills up 16 slots with kimodo dragons). Unfair? What? More than five of a unit is considered weak? So what, I beat you kande *ss.

Hehe. Sorry, couldn't help a farce at the monkey-players' expense.

Vanya
06-28-2001, 21:02
When fielding an army of 16 komodo dragons, beware the army lead by The Crocodile Hunter...

http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

BakaGaijin
07-09-2001, 09:22
Shhh! You guys aren't supposed to be revealing details about the top-secret "Shogun: The South Pacific Campaign" expansion!

Kraellin
07-10-2001, 20:48
does this mean we're now going to see komodo wedgie formations?

K.

Vanya
07-10-2001, 20:50
Quote Originally posted by Kraellin:
does this mean we're now going to see komodo wedgie formations?

K.[/QUOTE]


... in legendary armor and legendary teeth upgrades!