Do AI families regenerate unnaturally? [Archive]

KyodaiSteeleye

08-06-2011, 21:13

Hi,

A question - I'm playing Romani, and after years of dealing with the pesky Germans and having them continuously seiging my border towns, I want an end to them, but I don't want to conquer and keep their poxy forested northern wastes. Therefore, I was hoping to wipe out their ruling family, so that they fall into a rebel disarray. However, I've noticed as i've been sending legions north to eliminate them one by one that my spies are suddenly seeing a lot of 22 year old generals around that I hadn't tracked before. Do AI families regenerate unnaturally if their numbers get below a certain level?

Useful to know before I send my generals up into terra incognita on potential suicide missions.

thanks,

Span.

d'Arthez

08-06-2011, 21:38

Yup. It is possible to wipe out a faction by killing all family members, but you need to do it in a single turn, as the game will ensure that AI controlled factions have at least 3 Family Members when they start a new turn. I could be wrong about the number though.

Ca Putt

08-06-2011, 23:47

+1 when low on FMs one always gets loads of marriage/adoption/man of the hour etc. so it's equally hard for the AI to kill off all your FMs, with the marginal difference that you are not stupid ;)

Taedius

08-08-2011, 11:47

I actually managed to do this accidentally once. I was fighting the Getai, and only planned to take the towns necessary for my victory conditions, then let the faction live. But then in the last battle for the last town, they sent in their remaining two FMs. I didn't know, so I killed them both. Too bad, but hey. At least i didn't have to defend against endless stackspawn on that front.

Skullheadhq

08-08-2011, 12:02

I actually managed to do this accidentally once. I was fighting the Getai, and only planned to take the towns necessary for my victory conditions, then let the faction live. But then in the last battle for the last town, they sent in their remaining two FMs. I didn't know, so I killed them both. Too bad, but hey. At least i didn't have to defend against endless stackspawn on that front.

I don't see how that is bad.

Taedius

08-08-2011, 13:03

Not really bad, but I'm the sort of person who likes having a lot of factions running about. Though a bunch of Eleutherioi makes for a simpler, and oddly realistic, situation, it's sort of... boring, isn't it?

cezarip

08-09-2011, 14:37

Yup. It is possible to wipe out a faction by killing all family members, but you need to do it in a single turn, as the game will ensure that AI controlled factions have at least 3 Family Members when they start a new turn. I could be wrong about the number though.

I think you can destroy them if you succeed to kill both the faction leader and the heir at the same time (same battle). I might be wrong though.

Ca Putt

08-09-2011, 15:00

It's true!!!!

When the FL dies the Script want's to crown the heir but as he's dead and the process takes place on the campaign map it It presumes there are no other FMs and declares the faction defeated ^^.

eo9o

08-09-2011, 16:49

It's true!!!!

When the FL dies the Script want's to crown the heir but as he's dead and the process takes place on the campaign map it It presumes there are no other FMs and declares the faction defeated ^^.
Let me see if I understood, If you kill the faction leader and the faction heir at the same turn, the AI will declare the end of faction? Even there are others FMs? Or I need to kill them all at the same turn?

Ca Putt

08-09-2011, 17:43

all in the same turn or FL and heir in the same BATTLE. When you kill the heir in battle the PC will announce a new heir as soon as you leave the battle screen. When you kill him with an assassin/siege/navy it announces a new one right after you get the report.

TiberiusClaudiusMarcellus

08-10-2011, 02:00

It's true!!!!

When the FL dies the Script want's to crown the heir but as he's dead and the process takes place on the campaign map it It presumes there are no other FMs and declares the faction defeated ^^.Ever more a reason to not fly on the same plane

Rahl

08-12-2011, 21:37

I'm quite sure I killed at least two times the FL and his Heir in a battle and another FM got crowned but no new Heir got chosen.

cezarip

08-15-2011, 16:42

I'm quite sure I killed at least two times the FL and his Heir in a battle and another FM got crowned but no new Heir got chosen.

In the same battle?