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Montmorency
11-04-2011, 18:57
However I agree Montmorency is looking really scummy. His goal for the past couple of phases, with the lies and obfuscation and not hunting scum at all, seems to be to convince people that a mafioso is already dead when they're not. Then can spend the rest of the game watching false accusations people of being the partner of the "dead" mafia while he and his partner slide by.
One really big problem with that: I've never claimed that one mafioso is dead.
Lies and obfuscation? Where?
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
11-04-2011, 19:10
Lewwyn is an awful lynch. We've got a couple bandawgoners on that who aren't going to respond to anything, perfect example of just wasting a day. If you had to choose between TLD and Lewwyn, don't think that's even necessary now but if you had to, then TLD is easily a better call, because with Lewwyn dead as a townie TLD has no votes or record of anything and we'd have to waste another lynch on him.
However I agree Montmorency is looking really scummy. His goal for the past couple of phases, with the lies and obfuscation and not hunting scum at all, seems to be to convince people that a mafioso is already dead when they're not. Then can spend the rest of the game watching false accusations people of being the partner of the "dead" mafia while he and his partner slide by.
Who doesn't love bangwagoning, my friend?:laugh4::laugh4:
Riedquat
11-04-2011, 19:17
Lewwyn is an awful lynch. We've got a couple bandawgoners on that who aren't going to respond to anything, perfect example of just wasting a day. If you had to choose between TLD and Lewwyn, don't think that's even necessary now but if you had to, then TLD is easily a better call, because with Lewwyn dead as a townie TLD has no votes or record of anything and we'd have to waste another lynch on him.
Oh... because with Lewwyn we have a great voting record no? It is the same situation with different people... if we got rid of TLD the doubt about Lewwyn will persist...
However I agree Montmorency is looking really scummy. His goal for the past couple of phases, with the lies and obfuscation and not hunting scum at all, seems to be to convince people that a mafioso is already dead when they're not. Then can spend the rest of the game watching false accusations people of being the partner of the "dead" mafia while he and his partner slide by.
Agree about his scumminess, but the possibility we got one of the russian guys is there till we are confronted with a write-up with both mentioned...
Well, that is the impression you give...
At first it seemed you were more annoyed at TLD than afraid but that last vote to save yourself... umm...
Maybe it's just me but I'd like to be alive when the village wins. I don't consider it a win if I'm dead even if the villagers win. That's stupid. You're dead you've lost. Terrified is a stupid description because I'm never terrified. I'm just angry at stupidity.
I am still annoyed at TLD, but that doesn't mean I don't see other people acting scummy too. Cahoma is as good a lynch as TLD, possibly even better given his inability to give any reasonable explanation on anything.
Goodnight.
God Emperor
11-04-2011, 19:38
lol.. is it just me or this doesn't go very well with a self preservation vote
LOL, terrified?
I have a good reason. I'm a better villager than Cahoma. Who has no reason for anything he does. He doesn't even care who anyone votes for as long as its not him. I'm better.
I have too many people I wish to see dead in this game , but having you removed seems like a good idea. Vote: Lewwyn
Voting concluded. Stand by for execution.
The Island - Day 5 - Conclusion
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/Tropicalisland.jpg
It was a very long day with lots of talking. A few of the tourists faced many questions and accusations, but all defended themselves feverishly against their accusers. Of course, nobody wanted to end in the stomach of the others...
At the end of the day, Lewwyn seemed to be the unfortunate tourist of the day.
"But, this can't be!" he exclaimed. "There is no evidence, just the word of that guy who always finishes last. The Last day, he was so last, that he didn't get any meat. And now he accuses me again? It's not my fault that I grabbed the last piece in front of him. He should have been faster!"
"Only a vile and evil man would do such a thing!" his main accuser said loudly.
"This is sheer stupidity! Nonsense of the highest degree. I will not accept and would like to point out the blahblahblah"
While Lewwyn was explaining the injustice and unfariness of it all, the other tourists ignored him completely while cooking some onions and massive amounts of garlic in about fifty liter of olive oil. Clearly, the indoctrination by all those cooking programs you see on TV nowadays had had its' effect, because the dish that was going to be prepared already smelled delicious, certainly after some onions were added to the pot and the fresh basilicum and oregano were put next to it, to be added at the last moment.
While Lewwyn was still busy arguing how the viewpoints of several moral philosophers clearly demonstrated that he could not be guilty, four strong arms grabbed him and threw him in the cooking pot. The pot was then covered rather quickly, since nobody wanted to hear their meal screaming before consumption...
***
Tally
Lewwyn: 7 (God Emperor, Oh! TLD, Riedquat, Cahoma, Jarema, Daveshack, Warman) :skull:
Cahoma: 5 (Visorslash, Lewwyn, LazyMcCrow, Arjos, Montmorency)
Arjos: 2 (edse, Skooma Addict)
Oh! The Last Days: 2 (TinCow, Xenoneb)
scottishranger: 1 (scottishranger)
Not voting: 1 (Memnon)
Alive (17/32):
Montmorency
Arjos
TinCow
God Emperor
Oh! The Last Days
LazyMcCrow
Cahoma
Riedquat
Jarema
Daveshack
edse
scottishranger
Warman
Xenoneb
Visorslash
Memnon - Choxorn
Skooma Addict
Killed (10)
Sasaki Kojiro
Death is yonder
Askthepizzaguy
Bow-wow-wow
autolycus
hero di classico
landlubber
Tiaexz
Seon
Frozen in Ice
Lynched (5)
Beefy187
Ishmael
Chaotix
EarthlingLewwyn
WOG/Suicide (0)
***
It's night. PM's please. Night will last for +/- 24 hours.
Note: Memnon will be replaced by Choxorn.
Hi, everybody!
So, what the hell is going on?
Montmorency
11-05-2011, 01:07
How did you get here? More importantly, how did that other guy leave? Get us out of here!
You are not Sasaki!
Give us an explanation of why, you are smart enough to do so within the rules...
Look at his posts, it is pretty self-evident plus the countless scummy actions he is doing.
You previously said, chaotix and you were right... but at that time you were alive and not voting him...
No, I was dead, I wasn't alive at the time.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
11-05-2011, 02:39
Hi, everybody!
So, what the hell is going on?
We just eating and drinking Cashews and Milk out of someone's skull with some GingyBreadmen.
That's all.
:yes: :yes:
Montmorency
11-05-2011, 03:21
Look at his posts, it is pretty self-evident
:shrug:
plus the countless scummy actions he is doing.
Actions? Capo really has addled your minds.
You didn't like my vote for Cahoma? I will freely admit that I'm not even a quarter sure that he's scum.
But I don't see any better alternatives. It's why I've preferred to abstain.
You hardly have a good track record to lean on, anyway: Skooma, Ishmael. Yet you weren't scum.
That is a really bad way to assess a "track-record".
Since it is more about the motives than the actions themselves.
Since my action was "following what Sasaki said" reasoning being "For the lulz and he might be right", those votes of mine are theoretically worthless. The only real vote I have made was on you.
How did you get here? More importantly, how did that other guy leave? Get us out of here!
I think it was just a simply transmogrification
The Island - Night 6 - Conclusion.
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/Tropicalisland.jpg
God Emperor was hungry and thirsty. He had abstained from most of the human flesh, but he still had eaten too much of it for his own taste. But he needed to survive, so there wasn't really another option.
Suddenly, he saw a chocolate bar. Surprised, he looked left and right, but saw nobody. "Best before November 2012". It was still good enough for consumption! Whoever had lost this treasure would be very unhappy, but God Emperor couldn't control himself and ate the bar. While he was enjoying it, he noticed something else, some ten meters further.
Finishing the chocolate, he walked over to the object and much to his surprise, he found a small sack of potato chips.
While he was eating it, he saw another object, some 10 more meters deeper into the jungle. A can of Coca-cola!
And so, he went deeper and deeper into the jungle until he saw a nice pool, filled with fresh water! Exactly what he needed: a bath!
He took off his clothes and jumped right into it.
It wasn't water. It was hydrochloric acid...
While he was screaming in aggony, the last thing his senses registrated before he died were the smell of cigarettes and the sound of laughter...
***
Jarema was sitting on a branch, deep into the jungle, were he went for some peace and calmth. He didn't notice the figure behind him, ready to smash his head with a heavy object.
The figure looked down at the unconscious Jarema.
"I'm sorry, my friend. I chose poorly."
An hour or so later, Jarema woke up, finding himself tied up and gagged.
The moonlight reflection on the steel of a sharp dagger was all Jarema could see. Slowly, experienced hands started to skin Jarema alive. After a few terrifying minutes, the attacker removed the gag out of Jarema's mouth, his screams no longer stopped.
"It shouldn't have come to this, you know."
Jarema wept from the pain...
"Hush, child, don't cry."
Jarema's screams reached a new intensity as his face was skinned.
"Please, don't cry."
The attacker stroked Jarema's face gently, kissed his brow and then finished him with a clean cut through his throat.
The attacker kneeled down and used his bloody knife to write a message in the sand...
***
The Island - Day 6
After the two bodies had been found, the tourists felt desperate.
Trembling of fear, one of them read the message in the sand:
"I'd pay anything to roll the dice, one last t-i-i-i-ime."
Not sure what to make of that message, the tourists started the proceedings.
***
Alive (15/32):
Montmorency
Arjos
TinCow
Oh! The Last Days
LazyMcCrow
Cahoma
Riedquat
Daveshack
edse
scottishranger
Warman
Xenoneb
Visorslash
Choxorn
Skooma Addict
Killed (12)
Sasaki Kojiro
Death is yonder
Askthepizzaguy
Bow-wow-wow
autolycus
hero di classico
landlubber
Tiaexz
Seon
Frozen in Ice
God Emperor
Jarema
Lynched (5)
Beefy187
Ishmael
Chaotix
EarthlingLewwyn
WOG/Suicide (0)
***
It's now day. You can start voting. Day will last for +/- 24 hours.
Vote:Xenoneb What happened to lynching me?
Have we lost one mafia? Night 4 was the last time both was mentioned.
God Emperor
11-05-2011, 22:57
tsk... oh well.. glad I wasn't eaten.. Still, I sound kinda stupid in that writeup :p
Andres, is the spelling 'calmth' a typo, or does the SK have a lisp? I only ask because I've noticed that spelling two or three times, and figured I'd better check whether it's significant.
Montmorency
11-06-2011, 04:27
Vote:Xenoneb What happened to lynching me?
No one ever wanted to lynch you. Someone did place a pressure vote on you at one point, but that was it.
Is people lurking only to pop up a week later and self-vote going to be the new fad? Because it seems like a good cover for scum.
And where did scum get their hands on such a quantity of hydrochloric acid? Which wouldn't instantly dissolve a guy anyway.
Vote: Abstain
scottishranger
11-06-2011, 05:14
The longer we let scottishranger roam the island, the more powerful he becomes
acto now before its to late!
Vote: Scottishranger
Montmorency
11-06-2011, 05:25
How much like Pizza would you say you are, Scottish?
COME ON! WHERE'S THE DISCUSSION!
WHERE ARE THE VOTES!
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Montmorency
11-06-2011, 09:11
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Beats up in this island.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO3-1tZ749M
TheLastDays
11-06-2011, 11:55
Helloooooooo!
What's with all the self voting? Are you guys crazy? Like the serial killer? I'm willing to check.
vote: scottishranger
Montmorency
11-06-2011, 11:57
I dunno, I'd be more inclined to look critically at the copycat.
Vote: Daveshack most scummy
Lazy McCrow, Xenoneb, Visorslash, Jarema.
One of these is not like the others. The SK must have meant Jarema.
Riedquat
11-06-2011, 16:14
Helloooooooo!
What's with all the self voting? Are you guys crazy? Like the serial killer? I'm willing to check.
vote: scottishranger
Do you think its worth to use that strategy at this stage in the game?
I'd say we get rid of somebody most polemic, or somebody who can do better...
Vote: Oh! TLD!
TheLastDays
11-06-2011, 16:45
What kind of strategy is it, that I'm using and that's not worth using? I can do better? I aleady caught one scumbag, now you do something! :tongue:
Seriously, I dislike the selfvote rampage of scottishranger and it looks like a ploy to hide behind to me.
Vote: scottishranger
I don't like what he's doing, and even if he's town he just votes for himself...
Sasaki Kojiro
11-06-2011, 18:41
Oh the last days should die.
DaveShack
11-06-2011, 19:10
Vote: Oh! TheLastDays!
Skooma Addict
11-06-2011, 19:13
DaveShack, everyone you vote for gets lynched. Every single person.
Day 1. Lewwyn - Lynched(on day 5)
Day 2. Ishmael - Lynched
Day 3. Chaotix - Lynched
Day 4. Earthling - Lynched
Day 5. Lewwyn - Lynched
You my friend, seem to have one hell of a touch of death. You must be lynched, eaten and then passed. I shall flavor you using a few coconuts and a bottle of skooma I've hidden away from the others. Where did I hide it? You don't want to know...
Vote: DaveShack
And Skooma's Finger of Sobriety: Oh! The Last Days!
You deserve an honorary mention for your excellent scummery this game.
TheLastDays
11-06-2011, 19:23
And Skooma's Finger of Sobriety: Oh! The Last Days!
You deserve an honorary mention for your excellent scummery this game.
Oh why, thank you! So, anyone got a tally? I think there are two votes on me and I need to know if I have to scummily save my :daisy:
Vote: Abstain, because apparently the only reason anyone is voting for anyone is "because they're scummy."
TheLastDays
11-06-2011, 19:32
Vote: Abstain, because apparently the only reason anyone is voting for anyone is "because they're scummy."
And what's wrong with that? Where will abstaining get us?
Unvote;Vote: Oh! TheLastDays!
TheLastDays
11-06-2011, 20:44
Oh noes!
Guys, you are making a mistake. And stop the voting without reasons.
3 Oh! TheLastDays!: Riedquat, DaveShack, Xenoneb
3 Scottishranger: Scottishranger, Oh! TheLastDays!, Arjos
2 DaveShack: edse, Skooma Addict
1 Cahoma: Visorslash
Want me to save you Oh! TLD?
Oh the last days should die.
This alone seems reason enough to me not to vote TLD, considering Sasaki's track record with blind accusations in this game.
Montmorency
11-06-2011, 21:32
Does Europe have DST?
If so, Unvote; Vote: Scottish Ranger
I'd of course prefer to see Ranger lynched over TLD.
You could have just told the host if you didn't want to play any longer, Ranger.
Then I can vote:Oh! TheLastDays! to put some pressure on him ;)
Voting concluded. Stand by for execution.
TheLastDays
11-06-2011, 22:23
You'll never learn it, guys.
The Island - Day 6 - Conclusion
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/Tropicalisland.jpg
Oh! ye'll take the high road and
I'll take the low road,
And I'll be in Scotland afore ye;
But me and my true love
Will never meet again
On the bonnie, bonnie banks of Loch Lomond.
Waving around a bottle of 18 year old Cao Ila, scottishranger was singing during the proceedings.
Suddenly, he stood up, hesitated a bit, and fell unelegantly on his face. He crawled back on his knees and bursted out in laughter. After a final sip from his most excellent whisky, he managed to stand back on his feet, looking at the gathered tourists who had all gone very silent.
"It's me! I'm the one you're looking for! Kill me! Please, kill me, before I kill all of you one by one."
Perplex, the tourists stared at him. Once the surprise was fading away, four strong men stood up, grabbed scottishranger and dragged him away.
A few hours later, the tourists were enjoying "scottisranger with whisky."
***
Tally
scottishranger: 4 (Montmorency, Oh!TLD, Arjos, scottishranger) :skull:
Oh! TLD: 3 (Xenoneb, Daveshack, Riedquat)
Daveshack: 2 (Skooma, edse)
Cahoma: 1 (Visorslash)
abstain: 1 (Choxorn)
Not voting: 4 (Warman, Cahoma, LazyMcCrow, TinCow)
Alive (14/32):
Montmorency
Arjos
TinCow
Oh! The Last Days
LazyMcCrow
Cahoma
Riedquat
Daveshack
edse
Warman
Xenoneb
Visorslash
Choxorn
Skooma Addict
Killed (12)
Sasaki Kojiro
Death is yonder
Askthepizzaguy
Bow-wow-wow
autolycus
hero di classico
landlubber
Tiaexz
Seon
Frozen in Ice
God Emperor
Jarema
Lynched (6)
Beefy187
Ishmael
Chaotix
EarthlingLewwyn
scottishranger
WOG/Suicide (0)
***
It's night. PM's please. Night will last for +/- 24 hours.
Note: edse did not unvote, so his vote on TLD was invalid.
Montmorency
11-06-2011, 22:46
*sniff*
Reminds me of that one Disney film about mice which had an evil rat with a pet cat and...
TheLastDays
11-06-2011, 22:48
Note: edse did not unvote, so his vote on TLD was invalid.
:cool:
Still, I'll need to address this. I'm not the Mafia in this game, neither am I the serial killer, so stop wasting time by voting me and let's concentrate on finding the real scum. Thanks :bow:
Note: edse did not unvote, so his vote on TLD was invalid. Intentionally.
DaveShacks lynching streak got broken but he's still among the most suspicious together with Arjos and Xenoneb.
Riedquat
11-06-2011, 23:10
Oh... crap...
My vote on TLD wasn't a serious attempt to get him lynched... in fact it was to encourage some discussion... if Daveshack/Xenoneb isn't targeted tonight we should lynch him tomorrow...
Frozen In Ice
11-06-2011, 23:39
Town, where is the post by post analysis of the poeple you are voting for, where is the critical thinking? All these, "eh, why not" votes are not helping and are letting the scum slip by without them having to do anything.
And what's wrong with that? Where will abstaining get us?
Oh noes!
Guys, you are making a mistake. And stop the voting without reasons.
You tell me there's nothing wrong with voting without reasons, and then, one hour later, tell everyone to stop voting without reasons.
Interesting.
Sasaki Kojiro
11-07-2011, 02:15
Why did we lynch the guy who's deciding vote was by himself?
DaveShack
11-07-2011, 02:18
Town, where is the post by post analysis of the poeple you are voting for, where is the critical thinking?
I did post some vote analysis, before the Lewwyn vote. Lewwyn and O!TLD! were voting each other, a common tactic for mafia to avoid being seen as voting for town, at times when nobody else follows along with those kinds of votes. If mafia following that tactic got a bandwagon started by mistake, then they'd switch off and try to stop it by saying it's just an OMGUS.
At other times I went along with reasonable looking stuff posted by others, which often results in having voted for the person lynched. Not sure why that's suspicious.
DaveShack
11-07-2011, 02:22
Why did we lynch the guy who's deciding vote was by himself?
I didn't pick up on that soon enough to change my vote, but I've seen a few times where someone votes himself to try to deflect suspicion. The only other time I've seen serious self votes was in jester situations, which isn't the case here.
Montmorency
11-07-2011, 04:08
Lewwyn and O!TLD! were voting each other, a common tactic for mafia to avoid being seen as voting for town, at times when nobody else follows along with those kinds of votes.
TLD was quite happy to lynch Lewwyn. Unless you assume that one of the Mafia sacrificed himself to take suspicion off the other...
Sasaki: SR was proving himself a rather useless player; if all he intended to do was joke-vote himself daily and support, if not agree with copy-catters who might be trying to cover up their unsavory natures by it, then surely we couldn't be expected to wait until the endgame for him to potentially bust out some kind of saving grace for the town.
I wouldn't have had him particularly lynched, but TLD has shown himself at least a marginally more reliable player.
Oh the last days should die.
Ironic that I was scummy for wanting his lynch the previous day. Shame I forgot to vote for him today, looks like it would have made a difference.
Sasaki Kojiro
11-07-2011, 05:54
Ironic that I was scummy for wanting his lynch the previous day. Shame I forgot to vote for him today, looks like it would have made a difference.
You were scummy for many reasons and there are two scum groups. Nice try.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
11-07-2011, 13:19
You'll never learn it, guys.
Thank you and you're welcome!! :laugh4::laugh4:
TheLastDays
11-07-2011, 14:01
You tell me there's nothing wrong with voting without reasons, and then, one hour later, tell everyone to stop voting without reasons.
Interesting.
1) You were complaining about votes with the reason "this person is scummy". Now, I agree, that's not a great reason, but it's more than "unvote, vote: whoever" without any comment whatsoever.
2) I never said that there's nothing wrong with the behaviour you were mocking, I asked you, what you thought was wrong with it. Don't twist my words.
3) I politely asked you, what good will come from abstaining, because abstaining at this point of the game is utterly useless, limits discussion and makes the abstainer look oh-so-innocent. Why are you concerned about what people think of your votes?
You were scummy for many reasons and there are two scum groups. Nice try.
Wow. TinCow maybe we should start working together, I mean, I know you Mafia types don't like my sk style and I'm sorry for taking down your partner but I'm afraid one by one we'll just fall.
You were scummy for many reasons and there are two scum groups. Nice try.
Would you like to discuss these reasons?
TheLastDays
11-07-2011, 14:39
No, he won't. Sasaki has obviously decided to use this game to throw around statements without any backing. He orders and everyone is to do his bidding. Nay!
Riedquat
11-07-2011, 15:59
No, he won't. Sasaki has obviously decided to use this game to throw around statements without any backing. He orders and everyone is to do his bidding. Nay!
This game? he always do that... it is part of his charm ;)
The Island - Night 7 - Conclusion
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/Tropicalisland.jpg
It was dark and a rain curtain was falling out of the sky. He ran. Faster and faster. Allthough he couldn't see the hunter, he simply knew he was being hunted.
Just a minute of rest. Exhausted. He looked around. Suddenly, a cruel voice could be heard.
"I know your slave now clenches the hard earth between his teeth, Gorbachev."
Daveshack looked around, looking for that voice. Where was he? He didn't move at all.
"I also know that you have slain a stout-hearted townie this night. For this crime and others besides, you will pay the death-price."
Daveshack couldn't hold it any longer and he ran away again.
Only a few meters further, he stopped. Surprised he looked down at the bloody point of a sharpened-wood javelin sticking out of his chest.
***
Riedquat was tired but couldn't fall asleep. Frustrated, he stood up and went for a quiet walk, to think about the events of that day.
While several thoughts were crossing his troubled mind, he suddenly stumbled over a wooden folding chair, washed up on the beach. Muttering, he stood up again, went over to the chair and brought it up.
After looking around for a few seconds, to verify nobody was watching, he simply sat down in the chair and eventually dozed off.
He didn't know how long he had been asleep, but when he woke up, he found himself and the chair were tied around a palm tree. It was pitcblack and he couldn't see a thing.
Suddenly, he felt the end of the chair, the back part of the chair was behind his back, coming up into him. It went very slow, and Riedquat started to yell. But there was nobody there...
Riequat was crushed into the chair by having the bottom part pushed into him until he exploded in a mess of gruesome gore and blood...
***
The Island - Day 7
The two dead bodies were found early that morning. A dozen of tourists stared at each other.
"Well, now that the boys have been seperated from the men, perhaps we can now finally start looking for those scumbags for real?"
The surviving dozen nodded in agreement, grim expressions on their faces. The salad days were over.
***
Alive (12/32):
Montmorency
Arjos
TinCow
Oh! The Last Days
LazyMcCrow
Cahoma
edse
Warman
Xenoneb
Visorslash
Choxorn
Skooma Addict
Killed (14)
Sasaki Kojiro
Death is yonder
Askthepizzaguy
Bow-wow-wow
autolycus
hero di classico
landlubber
Tiaexz
Seon
Frozen in Ice
God Emperor
Jarema
Riedquat
Daveshack
Lynched (6)
Beefy187
Ishmael
Chaotix
EarthlingLewwyn
scottishranger
WOG/Suicide (0)
***
It's now day; you can start voting. Day will last for +/- 24 hours.
Earthling
11-07-2011, 22:16
Arjos and Montmorency need to be the next two lynches. Either order, but get it done.
Also, as Frozen and any decent townie is right, needs to be more discussion. Living townies should comments on their thoughts for a couple days ahead. Tell us the other person you would want to lynch in endgame, after those two, so that the mafia have to worry about who they kill and what it would look like.
Vote: Arjos
Third night in a row that we didn't get a mafia write-up with both mafia. And the SK found the case on DaveShack solid enough.
Montmorency
11-07-2011, 22:29
I don't know about Arjos; according to my predictions, if he were Mafia edse should have died tonight.
As for myself...
FoS: Xenoneb for lynch vote hit-and-runs, and because Riedquat and Frozen in Ice were firmly anti-Xenon
Then again, they were anti-Arjos as well. GE was too...
Riedquat
11-07-2011, 22:43
Wait! I got rapped by a chair? :inquisitive:
I wasn't against Arjos...
Now... our SK is convinced he already took out one of the russians... isn't he? umm...
TheLastDays
11-07-2011, 23:24
No, Lewwyn was one of the russians :yes:
Now, let's kill the other. vote: Xenoneb Give me a reason for your votes so far. Yes, I mean every single one.
Give me a reason for your votes so far. Yes, I mean every single one. I've been after Arjos for four days or so. It was because of his voting record and his reactions when he was close to being lynched. Xenoneb is second on my list just because he cast a vote in Arjos favor minutes before end of day.
Frozen In Ice
11-07-2011, 23:56
I think Arjos might be the scummiest out of all the players still alive, though there are a few close runner-ups. However, there's a lot of people that could still easily be scum, as everyone has been allowed to slide by without having to explain their reasoning too much. No matter what you guys decide to do however, keep the voting close; it will facilitate more discussion, which is badly needed currently.
Frozen In Ice
11-08-2011, 00:15
Also I don't know if Warman has had a serious post all game long, he's pretty much a wildcard at this point.
Skooma Addict
11-08-2011, 01:33
What kind of strategy is it, that I'm using and that's not worth using? I can do better? 1. I aleady caught one scumbag, now you do something! :tongue:
2. Seriously, I dislike the selfvote rampage of scottishranger and it looks like a ploy to hide behind to me.
1. Who did you catch, and how do you know they were scum?
2. scottisranger was as inactive as it gets. He was gone for days at a time and only voted himself. It looked more like someone who wanted out of the game then a mafia hiding behind self votes. This was an easy vote, and a wasted one, and that's something mafia definitely do. Scum are desperate to find reasons to vote for someone because they know everyone else is innocent. Unwarranted bandwagons/easy votes are sanctuaries for scum.
No, Lewwyn was one of the russians :yes:
Now, let's kill the other. vote: Xenoneb Give me a reason for your votes so far. Yes, I mean every single one.
You've been voting Lewwyn unmercifully for days, and you claim to have knowledge of his guilt that apparently no one else does. Explain how you know this. You ask Xenoneb to explain his votes, yet you have not offered any for your own other then scottishranger.(which I feel was a wasted lynch and an easy place for scum to hide)
You ooze scum like an old sewer grate. Convince me it's not scum I smell, but your own natural manly musk.
Vote: Oh! TheLastDays!
Skooma Finger of Sobriety: Arjos. You are my #2, for I smell death on you.
Imo we are all townies barking at eachother simply because we are the actual people posting something more than votes...
Vote: Warman
He's alive, which is sensational, and he and Lazy are the ones who managed to slip through...
Earthling was doing a very similar job, after his lynch, there weren't 2 mafia in the write-ups, plus only then he started to post his analysis...
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
11-08-2011, 02:53
Imo we are all townies barking at eachother simply because we are the actual people posting something more than votes...
Vote: Warman
He's alive, which is sensational, and he and Lazy are the ones who managed to slip through...
Earthling was doing a very similar job, after his lynch, there weren't 2 mafia in the write-ups, plus only then he started to post his analysis...
Vote:Arjos
[Be nice - GH]
:balloon2::laugh4:
...
^^
I'm not too sure, but I think the last mafia is either you or Lazy, and Xenoneb is the SK, who kept alive lynch baits and votes without reasoning except keeping alive the people he wants...
Sasaki Kojiro
11-08-2011, 03:50
Imo we are all townies barking at eachother simply because we are the actual people posting something more than votes...
Vote: Warman
He's alive, which is sensational, and he and Lazy are the ones who managed to slip through...
Earthling was doing a very similar job, after his lynch, there weren't 2 mafia in the write-ups, plus only then he started to post his analysis...
Very scummy post
1) You were complaining about votes with the reason "this person is scummy". Now, I agree, that's not a great reason, but it's more than "unvote, vote: whoever" without any comment whatsoever.
Fair enough, I suppose, but still it seems like a quick change in opinion.
2) I never said that there's nothing wrong with the behaviour you were mocking, I asked you, what you thought was wrong with it. Don't twist my words.
Then I guess I just misinterpreted you.
3) I politely asked you, what good will come from abstaining, because abstaining at this point of the game is utterly useless, limits discussion and makes the abstainer look oh-so-innocent. Why are you concerned about what people think of your votes?
Because as a recent replacement, I don't really know what's going on, haven't been paying as much attention to the game as you have, and need more than "because he's scummy" to place a vote.
I'm starting to agree with Skooma's opinion that you ooze scumminess simply because of how overly defensive you're acting, in addition to what he already said.
Vote: O! TLD!
Montmorency
11-08-2011, 05:52
TLD is always defensive.
scottisranger was as inactive as it gets. He was gone for days at a time and only voted himself. It looked more like someone who wanted out of the game then a mafia hiding behind self votes. This was an easy vote, and a wasted one, and that's something mafia definitely do. Scum are desperate to find reasons to vote for someone because they know everyone else is innocent. Unwarranted bandwagons/easy votes are sanctuaries for scum.
Exactly. Scottish, as you say, did not appear to want to play the game. And there were two bandwagons that day; Scottish, and TLD. So which is a more reasonable lynch: the non-player, or the active player? That phase was more like damage-control.
...
Well, that's unusual. Is Warman sore over the whole Pizza-thread/Green Dragon business, or has Arjos hit a nerve? From my experience, Warman doesn't survive quite this long too often. However, if Mafia has been specifically targeting actives, it makes sense to keep him around.
Imo we are all townies barking at eachother simply because we are the actual people posting something more than votes...
Vote: Warman
He's alive, which is sensational, and he and Lazy are the ones who managed to slip through...
Earthling was doing a very similar job, after his lynch, there weren't 2 mafia in the write-ups, plus only then he started to post his analysis...
Now now, Earthling can't conceivably Mafia. You, on the other hand, are beginning to show real concern regarding these affairs. I can't decide whether that puts you in The-Thing mold, or Vengeance. :brood:
An extra piece of reasoning against Xenon: He's much quieter than in Capo. :shrug:
...
Let's play nice, please.
:bow:
TheLastDays
11-08-2011, 10:19
All the points brought forth against me are valid points/questions, their only flaw is, that they're wrong, when taken as evidence for me being scum, because I'm simply not.
Let me try to asnwer them:
1) As someone already pointed out, I am always "defensive". That means, I try to answer questions, when I'm asked and when I don't feel answering will reveal too much to anyone reading. If someone questions my behaviour, I will try to explain my behaviour. That is simply the way I do it, no matter if I'm scum or town.
2) I play aggressive. Catch my attention and convince me you're scum and you will have a very hard time getting rid of me again. Have I attacked townies in the past? Sure, everyone makes mistakes but it also caught me some nice fish in the past and I'm not about to change my playstyle because people think it's scummy. Look at my user title and remember, remember the fifth of Novmeber (or Netherworld for that matter).
3) I'm still convinced Lewwyn was scum. Could I be wrong? Sure, but I don't think so. Why? I'm sorry but this is one of the cases where I cannot reveal my lead.
4) scottish was playing silly. If he just wanted out, he would have asked for a WoG or simply not post/vote at all and wait for it. He decided to be "active" but not productive. That's the way scum hide. Am I sure about him? Not nearly as sure as I was about Lewwyn but it was a good lynch. Remember Mafia X and join me in the rally cry: DEATH TO LURKING!
5) I actually agree with Sasaki for once. Arjos' last post was scummy. Combined with his behaviour all thread it's enough to warrant a lynch.
vote: Arjos
Did I forget to address a point? Please restate it.
LazyMcCrow
11-08-2011, 11:38
Please excuse my absence over the weekend. I see tempers are fraying. Reading between the lines as much as possible OTLD is either TOwn - or very skilled mafia. The cases made against Arjos seem reasonable - the fact that he attempts to point the finger of suspicion at me seals the deal - for me at least . I have my suspicions about many - not least of which is Warman, and Montmorency but foremost I think an Arjos lynch is a good lynch.
vote: Arjos
Montmorency
11-08-2011, 13:41
3) I'm still convinced Lewwyn was scum. Could I be wrong? Sure, but I don't think so. Why? I'm sorry but this is one of the cases where I cannot reveal my lead.
:brood:
Don't do that, TLD. We, the 'undecided's, I need to know all the details. Why did you think Lewwyn was scum? I didn't; let's note that he reacted in much the same way as you are now.
Going by Sasaki-style scumonitions is not a good idea.
Hmm.
Vote: Abstain
Till I have a chance to catch up.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
11-08-2011, 14:09
Let's play nice, please.
:bow:
I'll try but can not guarantee. :2thumbsup:
TLD is always defensive.
Exactly. Scottish, as you say, did not appear to want to play the game. And there were two bandwagons that day; Scottish, and TLD. So which is a more reasonable lynch: the non-player, or the active player? That phase was more like damage-control.
Well, that's unusual. Is Warman sore over the whole Pizza-thread/Green Dragon business, or has Arjos hit a nerve? From my experience, Warman doesn't survive quite this long too often. However, if Mafia has been specifically targeting actives, it makes sense to keep him around.
Now now, Earthling can't conceivably Mafia. You, on the other hand, are beginning to show real concern regarding these affairs. I can't decide whether that puts you in The-Thing mold, or Vengeance. :brood:
An extra piece of reasoning against Xenon: He's much quieter than in Capo. :shrug:
No, I just hate myself. :yes::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
Montmorency
11-08-2011, 14:16
What is it with town these days? We don't have to roleplay the scenario this hard, you know.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
11-08-2011, 14:34
What is it with town these days? We don't have to roleplay the scenario this hard, you know.
I never do. :laugh4:
Vote: Arjos
I feel like I need to do a complete re-read on this game; I never felt up-to-speed after I was swapped in. Unfortunately I really don't have time to do it at the moment, so I'll go with the majority, who appear to be making some fair points about Arjos' behavior.
Montmorency
11-08-2011, 14:49
Just a quick tally:
Arjos - 4
TLD - 2
Warman - 1
Xenon - 1
Abstain - 2
Voting - 10/12
Okay then.
Unvote; Vote: Xenoneb
Montmorency
11-08-2011, 15:34
I would like to, even if there isn't quite enough evidence. At any rate, it's something I will consider if the Arjos wagon wanes. But I won't return until after the round, so I suppose I'll put this up for the record.
It's hard to pick between two top suspects, because one of them is usually innocent. With this game, one each is certainly a possibility.
Unvote
Vote: Xenoneb
Who will break this tie?
Riedquat
11-08-2011, 16:07
What tie? :inquisitive: Following your own tally, now Xenoneb has 3 votes in total... you didn't vote before the unvote... same Visorslash...
Am I missing something? Again? :P
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
11-08-2011, 17:03
What tie? :inquisitive: Following your own tally, now Xenoneb has 3 votes in total... you didn't vote before the unvote... same Visorslash...
Am I missing something? Again? :P
You proably are :laugh:!
TheLastDays
11-08-2011, 17:24
What tie? :inquisitive: Following your own tally, now Xenoneb has 3 votes in total... you didn't vote before the unvote... same Visorslash...
Am I missing something? Again? :P
You aren't.
Unvote, vote: Oh!TheLastDays!
Now we have a tie!
Now now, Earthling can't conceivably Mafia.
Can you explain this better?
My observation is that 'til that day we had write-ups with 2 mafia, but once he got lynched that changed...
TheLastDays
11-08-2011, 18:22
Arjos: 4 (edse, Warman, LazyMcCrow, TinCow)
Oh! TheLastDays!: 3 (Skooma Addict, Choxorn, Oh! TheLastDays!)
Xenoneb: 2 (Visorslash, Montmorency,)
Warman: 1 (Arjos)
Why is there no tie? Did I miscount? Can someone please double check?
Why is there no tie? Did I miscount? Can someone please double check?
Seems correct to me...
TheLastDays
11-08-2011, 18:33
Alright, so, you have the option to save yourself, my friend :wink:
Alright, so, you have the option to save yourself, my friend :wink:
Ugh, I'm willing to vote for either of the 3 people I said, not going to tie on 2 townies, that's silly...
Unvote; Vote: Xenoneb
There, up to you, if you really wanna tie :D
TheLastDays
11-08-2011, 19:26
No, no, no, me no likey. Hmmmm... You're putting me in an ugly position here.
Riedquat
11-08-2011, 19:38
No, no, no, me no likey. Hmmmm... You're putting me in an ugly position here.
Dead-vote: Oh! TLD! :clown:
I am starting to think you and Montmorency are the Mafia...
TheLastDays
11-08-2011, 20:45
I am starting to think you are wrong.
Twenty minutes until deadline.
Earthling
11-08-2011, 21:58
Arjos lynch looking good, and Montmorency tomorrow if the number of kills doesn't change.
TheLastDays
11-08-2011, 21:59
unvote, vote: Xenoneb
Let Fortuna decide
TheLastDays
11-08-2011, 21:59
jk
unvote, vote: Arjos
The Island - Day 7 - Conclusion
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/Tropicalisland.jpg
It had been raining hard that day. Everybody was entirely soaked through and feeling terrible.
The tourists seemed to be exhausted and there wasn't that much discussion. Several of them couldn't really make up their mind and regularly switched their votes, causing the Gods to grumble. Lazy Gods.
At the end of the day, it seemed like the tourists were collectively suffering from the inability to make up their minds.
Xenoneb and Arjos were brought forward.
Looking at the sky, the rain still pouring down, the tourists begged the God of Chaos to decide who would die that day.
Bored, the Loki the trickster looked down.
"HE WILL DIE!"
A flash of lightning came down and destroyed Warman, only ashes remained.
The tourists were amazed. One of them coughed.
"WHAT?" the God of Chaos asked.
"Ehm. I would, of course, never imply that you, oh mighty infallible one, have made a mistake, but you had to pick one of the..."
"ARE YOU GOING TO EXPLAIN TO ME HOW TO DO THE JOB I'M DOING SINCE FOREVER? WITHOUT A DAY OFF AND WITH TERRIBLE WORKING CONDITIONS, IF I MAY ADD?"
The tourists trembled in fear.
A courageous one said: "Ehm, it appears like we have confused you so much with a double post and all that, that, ehm, in fact, there seems to be no tie and Arjos has the most votes. Of course this is entirely our own fault, since you are infallible and all that."
A huge sigh could be heard, followed by another lightning bolt coming down and striking Arjos. Instead of reducing him to ashes however, the lightning bolt transformed him in a rich buffet, with several dishes and most excellent wine and champagne. The rain stopped and the sun started to shine again. Nice background music could be heard and suddenly, perfectly shaped women appeared to serve the tourists. A jaccuzi, a sauna and a large swimming pool appeared as well as a cocktail bar with infinite amounts of cocktails. And a beer well.
"You're lucky to find me in a good mood today. Enjoy it while it lasts!"
The God of Chaos laughed as he watched the tourists falling on their knees, thanking him from the bottom of their hearts for his benevolence.
***
Tally
Arjos: 5 (TinCow, LazyMcCrow, edse, Warman, TLD) :skull:
Xenoneb: 3 (Montmorency, Arjos, Visorslash)
TLD: 2 (Choxorn, Skooma)
Not voting: 2 (Xenoneb, Cahoma)
***
Alive (10/32):
Montmorency
TinCow
Oh! The Last Days
LazyMcCrow
Cahoma
Xenoneb
edse
Visorslash
Choxorn
Skooma Addict
Killed (14)
Sasaki Kojiro
Death is yonder
Askthepizzaguy
Bow-wow-wow
autolycus
hero di classico
landlubber
Tiaexz
Seon
Frozen in Ice
God Emperor
Jarema
Riedquat
Daveshack
Lynched (7)
Beefy187
Ishmael
Chaotix
EarthlingLewwyn
scottishranger
Arjos
WOG/Suicide (1)
Warman
***
It's now night. PM's please. Night will last for +/- 24 hours.
Earthling
11-08-2011, 22:54
Why is TLD's vote tallied differently than how he voted? If his recent unvotes were late, he should still have been voting himself, if not, he voted Arjos.
Why is TLD's vote tallied differently than how he voted? If his recent unvotes were late, he should still have been voting himself, if not, he voted Arjos.
I have no idea what you're talking about https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/onschuldigfluiten.gif
***Tortures Earthlings' soul ***
Riedquat
11-08-2011, 23:22
I have no idea what you're talking about https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/onschuldigfluiten.gif
***Tortures Earthlings' soul ***
Bravo!! Excellent write up!! :laugh4::laugh4:
lol Andres XD
And nice party :P
TheLastDays
11-08-2011, 23:42
Nice writeup :yes:
Montmorency
11-09-2011, 00:01
Wait, why was Warman WOGed anyway? He was moderately active; he even voted today. :inquisitive:
Skooma Addict
11-09-2011, 00:27
Nice writeup :yes:
You waited until the deadline to cast the deciding vote for the lynch. Why no one else seems to care about that is a mystery to me. The person about to be lynched for their scummery, voted for themselves, lurked until the deadline, and then unvoted themselves to cast the deciding vote. When the game is over, and it's all said and done, someone needs to get this man a medal. For the time being however, you need to die. Even if you're a townie, you need to not be alive anymore.
Wait, why was Warman WOGed anyway? He was moderately active; he even voted today. :inquisitive:
Maybe 'cos of the "go to hell", but really that didn't offend me, I'm close with Warman :P
lurked until the deadline, and then unvoted themselves to cast the deciding vote.
His vote wasn't deciding not even one bit, he played on the tie, but was all his joke...
Montmorency
11-09-2011, 00:35
Arjos: 5 (TinCow, LazyMcCrow, edse, Warman, TLD)
Xenoneb: 3 (Montmorency, Arjos, Visorslash)
Not deciding, Skooma. FoS for unwarranted aggression.
O!TLD!, the reason I'm acting like this is to get kicked off. Kill me. Please.
Skooma Addict
11-09-2011, 04:03
His vote wasn't deciding not even one bit, he played on the tie, but was all his joke...
He alone chose between a tie which could have lead to Xeno's death, and you surviving, or give the deciding vote for you, which he did. He deliberately waited until the deadline to place this vote. What about that isn't decisive to you?
Arjos: 5 (TinCow, LazyMcCrow, edse, Warman, TLD)
Xenoneb: 3 (Montmorency, Arjos, Visorslash)
Not deciding, Skooma. FoS for unwarranted aggression.Indeed it was as I explained above. You find me suspicious for pointing out scummy behavior? I don't believe I've ever played a game where someone under heavy suspicion could pull such a maneuver without drawing the ire of the other players. When he acted defensively, you said he always acts that way. (fair enough) When he was in trouble of getting lynched you forced a tie with scottishranger, someone who was inactive and probably shouldn't have been voted for in the first place. Even now, you defend him by trying to throw suspicion on me for pointing out suspect behavior. At best he's an extremely suspect townie. At worst he's scum. Why do want him alive so badly?
Montmorency
11-09-2011, 06:42
Alright, I see what you were talking about Skooma. However, if he had never done that last-minute vote (for Arjos), it would still have been 4-3. He merely added to the wagon that was going to win anyway. The initial vote for Xenon was changed in less than a minute. I don't see a problem here. IRL, we don't punish people for having had the opportunity to do wrong and ultimately passing it up.
As for the last-minute nature, I agree. But I'd chalk it up to theatrics. He could have voted 3 hours before the end. The outcome would have been identical. Or are you saying that adding to Arjos' plurality earlier would have inspired someone to come out of the woodworks and go for Xenon? :shrug:
I want him to live because we have 2 - read it, 2 - lynches left. That's crunchtime. The endgame. Why would I want someone I believe to be town lynched in such a situation? Never mind what you think of his nature; my motivation in this regard is sound.
I explained the scottish situation: better an active town than an inactive town. So even if you don't think he's town...
O!TLD!, the reason I'm acting like this is to get kicked off. Kill me. Please.
:brood:
Wait, why was Warman WOGed anyway? He was moderately active; he even voted today. :inquisitive:
Warman was perm banned from the .Org for reasons unrelated to this game. Since I was out of replacements, I decided to WoG him :bow:
Montmorency
11-09-2011, 09:56
Jeez. :worried:
TheLastDays
11-09-2011, 10:18
This Skooma guy is fun. Andres, can I keep him, after I've killed the others?
No, wait, I can do scummier than this...
[spioil] :rolleyes: [/spoil]
Alright, seriously, I haven't decided anything. It was a lead for Arjos and no one broke that lead right until the end. Arjos would have been lynched anyway. I changed it to a tie and broke the tie again, within seconds. That wan't a tactic, it was just a joke. I would never end the round on a tie on purpose (unless it's a game wioth like Capo, where there's a potential double lynch), because I dislike random lynches, esp. at this point of the game. Look at Visorslash's latest Mini game. I refused to end it in a tie that could have saved me and I was lynched. I'd rather lose outright than with through a random roll.
Now, I'm perfectly sure, you are town, Skooma, but you have to put off the juice just for that last two rounds, because we need to stick together if we want to get out of this alive. :yes:
Warman was perm banned from the .Org for reasons unrelated to this game. Since I was out of replacements, I decided to WoG him :bow:
Wow. This is... news.
Montmorency
11-09-2011, 10:34
I refused to end it in a tie that could have saved me and I was lynched. I'd rather lose outright than with through a random roll.
The rest of town would have preferred to win by random lynch, selfish boi. :shrug:
TheLastDays
11-09-2011, 10:39
I know, and I'm a bit sorry for that but I just can't let a game be decided randomly. You had the chance of switching to my suspect, the actual scum :wink:
Montmorency
11-09-2011, 10:42
No, the kicker is that I could have forced a tie by just not voting, as Choxorn pointed out. He was a replacement in that game as well, no?
But yes, I noticed: lynch contest between Arjos and TLD. An interesting dynamic between you two.
Let's hope your roles have persisted too...
TheLastDays
11-09-2011, 12:33
Lynch contest? You're right and I haven't even realised yet ^^ - It's 2:1 for me, counting Netherworld :tongue:
You two :D
You might be winning that contest, but this time you screwed big time :P
Death is yonder
11-09-2011, 17:19
Oh good Arjos is finally dead :tongue:
Finally caught up, last time I did was around page 13 on 30PPP (post per page) and wanted to say something about lynching Arjos but it was night and I was hoping he would die.
On another note, could the mafia finally kill TLD? He's too scummy for his own good and needs to be put down :stare:
TheLastDays
11-09-2011, 22:11
Oh good Arjos is finally dead :tongue:
Finally caught up, last time I did was around page 13 on 30PPP (post per page) and wanted to say something about lynching Arjos but it was night and I was hoping he would die.
On another note, could the mafia finally kill TLD? He's too scummy for his own good and needs to be put down :stare:
That's exactly why they'll leave me alive :wink:
The Island - Night 8 - Conclusion
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/Tropicalisland.jpg
Something was following him. He looked left and right and ran a few meters. He still heard screaming. Or was it laughing? Quickly he ran further. Then he stopped and listened. He was still being followed. He started to panic.
"Who are you?!" he yelled.
Nobody replied, but it was still there, following him. There was no escape. No escaping this at all. It seemed inevitable, yet he kept frantically looking around and kept running.
He stopped again. Surrounded by darkness. Sometimes a little bit of light when the wind blew away some leaves. It was there. He could hear it. Screams. Soft screaming. Laugther.
"Show yourself!" he yelled. "Show yourself! Who are you?"
The only reply was that weird sound. He turned around again, wanting to run away when something hit him very hard on the back of his head. He fell. A sharp object came down and seperated edse's head from his body.
***
Choxorn felt as if he was surrounded. He raised his hands.
"Let me speak!"
"Get out of here," somebody replied.
A few stones were thrown at Choxorn.
"Please, this is serious!"
Some more stones were thrown at him.
"Get away!" "Get out of here" was being yelled at Choxorn.
He took a deep breath and raised his hands again.
"What I want to say is... if we don't get rescued, we might have to live here for a long time. Maybe the rest of our lives!"
"Boooo!" and some more stones thrown at him were the answer, some of those stones being pretty big; fortunately, they missed him.
Choxorn wasn't afraid though, and he continued: "If we *are* stuck here until we get old, then we can't go on acting like kids! We've got to be sensible and make things work! "
All of the sudden, a giant rock came down and hit Choxorn straight on his head, killing him instantly.
***
The Island - Day 8
The sight of yet another two dead bodies demoralised the tourists heavily.
They were starting to get afraid... Very afraid...
***
Alive (8/32):
Montmorency
TinCow
Oh! The Last Days
LazyMcCrow
Cahoma
Xenoneb
Visorslash
Skooma Addict
Killed (16)
Sasaki Kojiro
Death is yonder
Askthepizzaguy
Bow-wow-wow
autolycus
hero di classico
landlubber
Tiaexz
Seon
Frozen in Ice
God Emperor
Jarema
Riedquat
Daveshack
Choxorn
edse
Lynched (7)
Beefy187
Ishmael
Chaotix
EarthlingLewwyn
scottishranger
Arjos
WOG/Suicide (1)
Warman
***
It's now day. You can start voting. Day will last for +/- 24 hours.
And there were 6 XD
Keep up the self lynching folks :D
Earthling
11-09-2011, 22:37
Skooma for the lynch then. People ought to be able to read over some posts and see the same reasons but for a short summary:
TLD is of course a terrible lynch today. Montmorency would be understandable because he's been so active and said so many controversial things - but if he's town, the scum will just have to kill him in the next night or two anyway because an active townie is too much a threat in the end. He also is far less likely to be the serial killer, so our chances are lower in that regard.
Skooma is easily the scummiest out of the remainder.
Skooma is easily the scummiest out of the remainder. I was thinking of posting this before
If I'm killed tonight lynch Skooma
Given how good your intuitions were so far... XD
I'd say to keep an eye on Cahoma and Lazy...
I can believe in Xenoneb being just another unmotivated player...
Riedquat
11-09-2011, 23:24
Given how good your intuitions were so far... XD
I'd say to keep an eye on Cahoma and Lazy...
I can believe in Xenoneb being just another unmotivated player...
Cahoma... don't forget him! After he got all that attention a couple of days ago he disappeared from the scene...
Choxorn's death remembers me of an old film scene... in an island... umm....
TheLastDays
11-10-2011, 00:14
Yep, Skooma it is. Sorry boy, but why are you still alive? You are obviously terribly wrong all the time with who you lynch (me, Arjos doesn't seem to have been a killer either, because... well there's still two kills) and you're not great lynch bait.
vote: Skooma Addict
Sasaki Kojiro
11-10-2011, 00:40
hmm Cahoma is outright lurking it seems.
But Tincow, why have you been such a non-factor this game? Don't you usually try to do more pro-town stuff when you are actually town?
Warman was perm banned from the .Org for reasons unrelated to this game. Since I was out of replacements, I decided to WoG him :bow:
It's not related to his name, is it?
And there were 6 XD
Keep up the self lynching folks :D
There are 8 by my count...
Dunno you Choxorn, but I don't expect much help by the two who are killing us :P
Frozen In Ice
11-10-2011, 01:37
Dunno you Choxorn, but I don't expect much help by the two who are killing us :P
Has there ever been confirmation that we managed to kill one of the mafia?
Riedquat
11-10-2011, 01:39
Now, I'm perfectly sure, you are town, Skooma, but you have to put off the juice just for that last two rounds, because we need to stick together if we want to get out of this alive. :yes:
Yep, Skooma it is. Sorry boy, but why are you still alive? You are obviously terribly wrong all the time with who you lynch (me, Arjos doesn't seem to have been a killer either, because... well there's still two kills) and you're not great lynch bait.
vote: Skooma Addict
How do you went from perfectly sure he is town to vote for him in what 12 hours?
Has there ever been confirmation that we managed to kill one of the mafia?
After Night 4, the write-ups ceased to have two mafia operating, that means either the Day 5 lynch (Earthling) or the Night 5 SK kill (you, Frozen In Ice), was one...
Frozen In Ice
11-10-2011, 03:36
After Night 4, the write-ups ceased to have two mafia operating, that means either the Day 5 lynch (Earthling) or the Night 5 SK kill (you, Frozen In Ice), was one...
A lack of a number for mafia in the writeup does not mean we killed one. There's a possibility, but that's all.
Skooma Addict
11-10-2011, 05:17
Yep, Skooma it is. Sorry boy, but why are you still alive? You are obviously terribly wrong all the time with who you lynch (me, Arjos doesn't seem to have been a killer either, because... well there's still two kills) and you're not great lynch bait.
vote: Skooma Addict
I didn't vote to lynch Arjos, I voted for you along with Choxorn(who is now dead *wink wink*) and you are still alive and kicking, doing a complete 180 to place suspicion and blame upon me, your only other living accuser. This statement is just flat out wrong. Come to think of it, people that have voted for you the last two day phases have died in two consecutive night phases(Choxorn tonight, and Riedquat and Daveshack the previous night). I don't understand you. It's like you have a Dr. Who perception filter that blocks all scummy action from being noticed by anyone. This is truly the most magnificent thing I've ever seen. I pray to the mafia gods that you're not a townie because if this is how you normally play, we will need to redefine what it means to act scummy. In all seriousness, Beskar needs to take notes from this man, and yet, he will get away with it again. The best I can do now is leave my cold, dead, skooma addled hand pointing in your direction.
Vote: Oh! TheLastDays!
How do you went from perfectly sure he is town to vote for him in what 12 hours?
Don't argue with his logic. It will only drive you to madness. Besides, I'll be joining you shortly. Do they have pie where you're at? I like pie.
Montmorency
11-10-2011, 07:23
Aw, Christ. I just don't know any more. I'm straight admitting it.
Apparently, Cahoma and Xenon have succumbed to Island Malaise; Tincow, who seemed to be a forceful newcomer at first, has degenerated into a sinister whistler; LazyMcCrow is lurking as well; TLD I'm starting to suspect; Skooma, I don't know a thing about...
Visorslash! Even Visorslash! I can't even trust Visorslash anymore!
I need more time!
Has there ever been confirmation that we managed to kill one of the mafia?
I think we need to operate under this assumption; otherwise, our chances are almost nil.
1 SK, 2 Mafia:
End of D8, Lynch Town - 7
End of D9, Lynch Scum - 4
End of N10 - 2/1 (Instaloss/Only Scum Left)
OR
End of D8, Lynch Town - 7
End of D9, Lynch SK - 4
End of D10 - 2 (Instaloss/Only Scum Left)
OR
End of D8, Lynch SK - 7
End of D9, Lynch Scum - 5
End of D10, Lynch Scum - 3 (Win)
OR
End of D8, Lynch SK - 7
Basically, 3 rounds to lynch 2 scum
OR
End of D8, Lynch Scum - 7
End of D9, Lynch SK/Scum - 4
End of D10, Lynch Scum/SK - 2 (Classic Endgame Scenario)
And I don't like those odds. We have to lynch the SK today, as it gives us an extra round of leeway to catch 2 Mafia. Otherwise, we have to hit bullseyes each remaining round. And I don't know if that's possible.
In sum: we either have to get lucky and find the SK today, or we'll have to get lucky each subsequent round and lynch scum. That's if there are 2 Mafiosi
If there's only 1 Mafioso:
End of D8, Lynch SK - 7
Round of leeway, to find last scum
OR
End of D8, Lynch Scum- 7
Round of Leeway to find SK
OR
End of D8, Lynch Town- 7
End of D9, ...
***Leeway means a round in which we can lynch Town and survive
Final result: If there are 2 Mafia, we should lynch the SK because it gives us 1 round in which we are allowed to make a mistake. If there's only 1, we get the leeway whether we lynch Mafia or SK. No matter how many Mafia are left, we MUST lynch scum today, or town LOSES NO MATTER THE SCENARIO.
:daisy:
Been busy.
Alright, I need some data to think about, as I'm quite busy and don't have time to get it. Who has the Serial killer killed, first of all?
Final result: If there are 2 Mafia, we should lynch the SK because it gives us 1 round in which we are allowed to make a mistake. If there's only 1, we get the leeway whether we lynch Mafia or SK. No matter how many Mafia are left, we MUST lynch scum today, or town LOSES NO MATTER THE SCENARIO.
Your math is a bit off. If we lynch a town today and only one mafia is remaining, tomorrow there will be 5 players, 1 of which is an SK, one of which is a mafia. If we lynch either tomorrow, the remaining one will kill one more time to bring us to 2 townies and 1SK/Mafia.
Also, this is all ignoring the fact that at some point, one of them will have to kill the other.
Montmorency
11-10-2011, 09:11
Well, alright, you got me there; I didn't consider all the permutations either, or it would have been too tedious.
But so far as I can see, there's a very low probability of town winning if today's lynch is a dud.
And Mafia can't kill the SK.
Alright, I'm back. I've just been a bit bored with mafia since I died in Capo:( but I'll read through some of this later and all that.
LazyMcCrow
11-10-2011, 11:23
Well - our numbers are reduced to the point where I can pat myself on the back whether I die or not, safe in the knowledge that I guessed at least one right:
Montmorency - Seemed scummy to me all game
TinCow - NOT SCUM
Oh! The Last Days - DEFINITELY SCUM
LazyMcCrow - NOT SCUM
Cahoma - (Probably) NOT SCUM
Xenoneb - (Probably) NOT SCUM
Visorslash - SCUMMY AS HELL
Skooma Addict - SCUMMY AS HELL
Vote: Oh! The Last Days
Montmorency
11-10-2011, 11:37
TLD (Skooma, McCrow) - 2
McCrow (Visor) - 1
Skooma (TLD) - 1
Undecided - Xenon, Cahoma, Tincow, Montmorency
Boy, this is messy. I just don't know. The only strong suspicions I've had are for Xenon and Cahoma, but now...
Despite Choxorn's correction, the fact is that if we don't get this right today there are only a couple of scenarios in which Town can win. And they are long shots.
There needs to be some sort of consensus.
My skooma accusation was mostly to try to catch some scum. TLD was the only one who did so. It can be his own thoughts aswell.
Montmorency
11-10-2011, 11:57
So you suspect TLD?
Looking at that, his reasoning for the vote is strange. You thought Arjos was scum too, TLD. And it's strange that each of us is alive. But someone has to be.
:thinking:
TheLastDays
11-10-2011, 12:39
How do you went from perfectly sure he is town to vote for him in what 12 hours?
I posted that I was sure about him being town during the night, to lure the Mafia or sk into killing him. He's the worst lynchbait and no danger to the scums, why leave him alive? He hasn't been killed. Why?
EDIT: I am now realising that my reasoning is flawed and I am an idiot. He's no danger to the scums, which is exactly why he's still alive. He follows wrong leads and lynchbait like me needs a lyncher like Skooma.
I didn't vote to lynch Arjos, I voted for you along with Choxorn(who is now dead *wink wink*) and you are still alive and kicking, doing a complete 180 to place suspicion and blame upon me, your only other living accuser. This statement is just flat out wrong. Come to think of it, people that have voted for you the last two day phases have died in two consecutive night phases(Choxorn tonight, and Riedquat and Daveshack the previous night). I don't understand you. It's like you have a Dr. Who perception filter that blocks all scummy action from being noticed by anyone. This is truly the most magnificent thing I've ever seen. I pray to the mafia gods that you're not a townie because if this is how you normally play, we will need to redefine what it means to act scummy. In all seriousness, Beskar needs to take notes from this man, and yet, he will get away with it again. The best I can do now is leave my cold, dead, skooma addled hand pointing in your direction.
Vote: Oh! TheLastDays!
I'm not scum and your prayer will remain unanswered, scum! :yes:
Oh! The Last Days - DEFINITELY SCUM
I'm your only definite scum? You need to work on your analysis, man.
Montmorency, I think I found the source of your confusion:
Visorslash! Even Visorslash! I can't even trust Visorslash anymore!
You trusted Visorslash? :crazy:
Visor, why do you think it's McCrow?
TheLastDays
11-10-2011, 12:41
Because I can't vote in edited posts:
unvote
Reasoning is in the edited part of my last post. Gotta think this through.
Again: Visor, what reasons do you have for voting McCrow?
Montmorency
11-10-2011, 12:45
Eh? What was I confused about? And if Skooma is no threat to scum for those reasons, and that's why he is alive, wouldn't that indicate that he is town? Now I am confused.
Edit: Oh, ok.
TheLastDays
11-10-2011, 12:46
Eh? What was I confused about? And if Skooma is no threat to scum for those reasons, and that's why he is alive, wouldn't that indicate that he is town? Now I am confused.
Edit: Oh, ok.
First part of your post: You stated in your long post that you were confused, didn't you?
Second part: See my unvote.
Montmorency
11-10-2011, 12:48
No, I said I didn't know who to vote because I don't have any strong conviction anymore.
His failure to follow up on his intuition. If he think I'm the SK, why isn't he voting me?
That and the vote change when I voted him. That was scummy to me. Come to think of it, Xenon did the same thing.
I'm still suspicious of Cahoma.
Montmorency
11-10-2011, 13:11
Get your cases quick, because my time for this round is running out. I don't want to mess up here.
Death is yonder
11-10-2011, 13:24
I didn't vote to lynch Arjos, I voted for you along with Choxorn(who is now dead *wink wink*) and you are still alive and kicking, doing a complete 180 to place suspicion and blame upon me, your only other living accuser. This statement is just flat out wrong. Come to think of it, people that have voted for you the last two day phases have died in two consecutive night phases(Choxorn tonight, and Riedquat and Daveshack the previous night). I don't understand you. It's like you have a Dr. Who perception filter that blocks all scummy action from being noticed by anyone. This is truly the most magnificent thing I've ever seen. I pray to the mafia gods that you're not a townie because if this is how you normally play, we will need to redefine what it means to act scummy. In all seriousness, Beskar needs to take notes from this man, and yet, he will get away with it again. The best I can do now is leave my cold, dead, skooma addled hand pointing in your direction.
Vote: Oh! TheLastDays!
Don't argue with his logic. It will only drive you to madness. Besides, I'll be joining you shortly. Do they have pie where you're at? I like pie.
Things like that just cry out for lynchings. Blue parts are mine.
Well - our numbers are reduced to the point where I can pat myself on the back whether I die or not, safe in the knowledge that I guessed at least one right:
Montmorency - Seemed scummy to me all game
TinCow - NOT SCUM
Oh! The Last Days - DEFINITELY SCUM
LazyMcCrow - NOT SCUM
Cahoma - (Probably) NOT SCUM
Xenoneb - (Probably) NOT SCUM
Visorslash - SCUMMY AS HELL
Skooma Addict - SCUMMY AS HELL
Vote: Oh! The Last Days
These too. Creating a list without substantiation to follow the public favor bandwagon which seemed to have favored individuals like Monty and edse, seems a tad of a hasty work if you ask me.
Based solely on this round, my gut calls it on both Lazy and Skooma, which one is the SK and which is the mafia? I don't know, but they're both dirty scumbags.
I'm going to have me a look through their post history.
I 'm going to be quick.
THe ishamel thing looks fishy to me from a reread. THe vote on me without a reason, to which I replied with a technical OMGUS, though even if he hadn't had voted me, I would still have voted him. His intuition on me being SK, but not following it up.
TLD is scummy obviously.
Skooma I'm wary of.
Still, Lazy is the way I'm going. I'll be up for a bit if there is any more discussion I can take part in.
Riedquat
11-10-2011, 13:28
Get your cases quick, because my time for this round is running out. I don't want to mess up here.
I'd say you vote yourself so then you can go out with a clean conscience!
We are looking for two 2 dos due persons... some must be.. there is no other chance!!
Montmorency
11-10-2011, 13:30
I'll default back to Xenon. Unless I see a good lead in the next two hours :shrug:
Vote: Xenoneb
Some hollow justification to assuage my doubts: he spoke maybe two lines this game. Maybe SK strategy?
Death is yonder
11-10-2011, 13:47
I would safely remove Cahoma, TLD and Visor from consideration. The latter two are just so naturally scummy that its dangerous :snob:
As for Cahoma, he seems like genuinely burned out honest confused townie. I think he's just alive now because he hasn't really given much to read about and is a viable lynch if whichever town was alive didn't buy Visor and TLD for the lynch.
--------------------------
LazyMcCrow:
Summary: Generally just seems to agree with people, a very agreeable chap :wink: except in LOGD when you're in the stocks :whip:
I don't flinch. I haven't diverted any attention any where. Please quote where I did. I stated when I voted on Monty why I was voting for him. If I were scum I would have done what he did. He messaged a few people as if to trap them and then when it was revealed and confirmed that that is what he was doing, anyone who voted for him was labelled scum and he was labelled innocent. How is that not exactly what scum would want to do? I'm still suspicious of the whole incident, but everything he's done since has seemed villagery to me. Because he's been actively discussing and looking at different people. He's been actively thinking about what other people have said and has been actively processing whats going on in the game.
My feelings about Montmorency's scumminess are very similar to Lewwyns: ie. the SK hunting thing didn't make me feel like Monty was townie at all, but his behaviour since has moderated that. Still whiffs a bit though :D So while Lewwyn may indeed be scum, I'm inclined to believe him town based on his opinion of Monty!
Tends to agree with other people, flipflops a lot based on public opinion.
I have had an epiphany... Somebody with time care to tell me who of the ten victims were killed by the serial killer?
And here Riedquat suddenly pops up!
Bow-wow-wow
autolycus
Tiaexz
Seon
And not even 5 minutes later, Mr Helpful who has been closely watching the thread quickly tries to "pull a townie move" and help out! Amazing stuff isn't it! And he even throws in a tally to seem even more helpful.
Cahoma :stare: what sort of logic is that? 'we will eventually hit the scum' you must realise that it would take 5 lynches (since you decided to include lewwyn) . If we just did the maths , then 5 day lynches equals 10 night kills, in other words, 15 dead. So let's hope one of these people are the mafia scum? If the SK has no way of scanning, as suggested, then his list of nothing but guessing, and you want to base a whole game strategy on a SK's guess?
I would not mind to see you dead .
@ Lazyemccrow : I really don't understand if you are serious about visorslash being the SK? But that is a very specific accusation , so why are not voting for him?
And when GE makes the remark about Cahoma, and also one referencing Lazymccrow...
Agreed.
Well - my opinion about Visorslash being the SK is based on intuition and as all my intuition has been wrong so far, I'm almost loathe to trust to it any further. However, given the lack of any evidence, I have no other option and therefore have decided to trust again in my intuition that Riedquat is mafia. And we are beginning to run thin on time to lynch a mafia so I've gone for him for any kind of reaction as much as anything. However, given that there appears to be a wagon on Lewwyn - a wagon reinforced by scummy-non-thread-reading-lurkers - it really makes little difference whether my intuition is correct or not.
All of a sudden he is agreeable to something that he could have pointed out himself were he truly feeling as such about it! If it was such a noteworthy thing, he would have commented on it himself long ago.
Then as a follow up to a very specific question by GE over his own very specific accusation, he does nothing but question his own judgement and doesn't exactly tell which post struck him odd. Do tell Mr. McCrow.
Finally, someone talking some simple sense fo ma brane.
unvote: vote: Oh! The Last Days
Just three minutes after TC made a post analysis getting back into the game. It seems almost anyone will do for our little bird here. Almost as if he's hungering for someone to die :laugh4:
I'm not going to eat you. Just vote for you.
unvote: vote Cahoma
And the little scum saw that he could avoid giving reasons for voting round and round :creep:
Please excuse my absence over the weekend. I see tempers are fraying. Reading between the lines as much as possible OTLD is either TOwn - or very skilled mafia. The cases made against Arjos seem reasonable - the fact that he attempts to point the finger of suspicion at me seals the deal - for me at least . I have my suspicions about many - not least of which is Warman, and Montmorency but foremost I think an Arjos lynch is a good lynch.
vote: Arjos
Well so now TLD is not 100% scumtastic goodness but a townie? So TLD is either town or mafia? Mmhmm don't see how anybody can make a wrong guess on that bet. Its almost not going to happen.
So what's up with Lazy? He basically doesn't really have his own opinion about things, he just borrows them off other people. He's obviously watching the thread like a hawk, as evidenced by his close timing to some posts, almost as if he's waiting to pounce on any opportunity to seem more townie. Also, his behavior is clearly attempting to be safe, too safe in fact. Its as if he's trying to hard to avoid being controversial. Please put the noose around your neck sir, you've been caught.
Mostly a gut feeling, do bear in mind that I've just caught up with the whole thread in one go, but yes, I think that Lazy should be the lynch today of any sane minded townie and any inconspicuously minded scumbag. And that means you TLD :clown:
Oh that's funny, I've just realized that there aren't 5 players living right now :laugh4:
I think that TC as mafia would put in more effort, so cross him out too, but carry on folks :bow:
Skooma to follow after dinner :tongue: but yes, I'm fairly positive about Lazy, unless he's joined the scumtastic brigade led by Chairman Visor.
LazyMcCrow
11-10-2011, 13:51
I 'm going to be quick.
THe ishamel thing looks fishy to me from a reread. THe vote on me without a reason, to which I replied with a technical OMGUS, though even if he hadn't had voted me, I would still have voted him. His intuition on me being SK, but not following it up.
TLD is scummy obviously.
Skooma I'm wary of.
Still, Lazy is the way I'm going. I'll be up for a bit if there is any more discussion I can take part in.
If I'm lynched, then I apologise in advance to town in general for my poor play. I realise that much I have done has been without any serious analysis and that I have exhibited behaviour that might either be considered a cliched scumtell or the mark of a very poor towny. I make this plea - not to look even more scummy than I do already - but because I am town and if another towny is lynched then its looking like an unavoidable mafia / SK win.
TheLastDays
11-10-2011, 14:24
Well, alright, I'm willing to follow someone else's lead for now since I guess I was wrong about Arjos and your case on Lazy is convincing in and of itself but this:
If I'm lynched, then I apologise in advance to town in general for my poor play. I realise that much I have done has been without any serious analysis and that I have exhibited behaviour that might either be considered a cliched scumtell or the mark of a very poor towny. I make this plea - not to look even more scummy than I do already - but because I am town and if another towny is lynched then its looking like an unavoidable mafia / SK win.
seals it for me.
vote: LazyMcCrow
Should count, the unvote happened a while ago.
Montmorency
11-10-2011, 14:46
That looks an awful lot like you're latching onto his case to save yourself from lynch. That would be fine normally, but in the endgame it's not cool...
Death is yonder
11-10-2011, 14:54
I concur, but I still think that Lazy needs to go.
Don't know whether this is his style, but... I guess I'll have to taste his corpse to find out :sneaky:
Skooma, maybe I'll take a look another time, I'm not as convinced with him as I am with Lazy, but he does look remarkably less appetizing after a meal :tongue:
But Tincow, why have you been such a non-factor this game? Don't you usually try to do more pro-town stuff when you are actually town?
Real life. Changes at work and home have reduced the amount of time I have to read the fora. These days, all my time on the Org is spent reading/responding to staff stuff. The only public area threads I'm even reading regularly are this one and the Minecraft one, and this one only gets viewed about once a day. I will probably have cancel on my scheduled Large game in January.
Vote: TLD
I previously thought he and Monty were scummy. Nothing about that has changed. TLD wins the coin toss.
LazyMcCrow
11-10-2011, 15:37
I concur, but I still think that Lazy needs to go.
Don't know whether this is his style, but... I guess I'll have to taste his corpse to find out :sneaky:
Skooma, maybe I'll take a look another time, I'm not as convinced with him as I am with Lazy, but he does look remarkably less appetizing after a meal :tongue:
To defend myself: I don't have a style yet: This is my second game online (The first being Capo). If its a choice between me and OTLD - you need to lynch him.
Riedquat
11-10-2011, 16:14
To defend myself: I don't have a style yet: This is my second game online (The first being Capo). If its a choice between me and OTLD - you need to lynch him.
How do you manage to be so scummy in only two games? :stare:
:clown:
LazyMcCrow
11-10-2011, 16:36
How do you manage to be so scummy in only two games? :stare:
:clown:
Indeed!
This game has seen me jump at shadows - there are very few players who haven't seemed scummy to me - there has been plenty of obfuscatory exchanges, not to mention meta-stuff thats' flown right over my head. As for Capo - hardly a good example for what is to be expected of one in a text-based vanilla game. :cool2:
LazyMcCrow
11-10-2011, 16:41
Actuall - just to digress further - this is my third game - I forgot the Reality show one.. I was awful town in that one too :rolleyes:
Sasaki Kojiro
11-10-2011, 17:28
I disagree with DiY on most everything.
TLD should be lynched.
I'm content with TinCow's explanation.
Cahoma is probably going to make us lynch him.
Death is yonder
11-10-2011, 17:39
Not a surprise really, just wanted to bring about a perspective to see what people thought about it. It was quite admittedly done in a hurry :laugh4:
And I did put a disclaimer that I've only just caught up and have been largely un-involved :tongue:
I think we've all had a better look at the parties involved now :yes:
I admit that Lazy's responses brings about a less than excited response for one gunning for his death, and that in contrast, TLD's reaction and probable glancing at the clock strikes as someone trying to seal a deal, and quick. Would be a tough choice for me, choosing between the initial gut read and the probable contrived response.
I still have no clue. I'm just like idunnowattodo.
TheLastDays
11-10-2011, 18:43
Cahoma, you're scum so you need to vote me, because I'm town. Hope that clears things up for you :yes:
Guys, can we get over "scummy behaviour" and do you have anything serious to say about why I have to go or are you lynching me because you're frustrated that you can't find the real killers?
Riedquat
11-10-2011, 18:54
I still have no clue. I'm just like idunnowattodo.
Do a tally and I tell you what to do! ;)
Skooma Addict
11-10-2011, 19:03
I'll default back to Xenon. Unless I see a good lead in the next two hours :shrug:
Vote: Xenoneb
Some hollow justification to assuage my doubts: he spoke maybe two lines this game. Maybe SK strategy?
That's too easy and wasteful of a vote at this stage. Xeno has stated he wanted out of the game, unless he was joking of coarse, but I think he meant it. He hasn't posted since.
O!TLD!, the reason I'm acting like this is to get kicked off. Kill me. Please.
This was the second time you voted for someone who wanted out. (scottishranger being the first) There needs to be more definitive action this late in the game. Please vote for anyone else, even me if you so choose, but there can be no more wasted votes.
Sasaki Kojiro
11-10-2011, 19:37
I don't like monty's or cahoma's posts.
Ahahahahahah as the rest of the game, you are all barking at eachother and the two are just slipping away XD
Guys, can we get over "scummy behaviour"
How else do you propose we find the scum in a game with no pro-town roles?
Skooma Addict
11-10-2011, 19:48
Cahoma, you're scum so you need to vote me, because I'm town. Hope that clears things up for you :yes:
Guys, can we get over "scummy behaviour" and do you have anything serious to say about why I have to go or are you lynching me because you're frustrated that you can't find the real killers?
1. Post #576 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?137240-The-Island-In-Play&p=2053394930&viewfull=1#post2053394930) This was me pointing out some things I noticed about you.
2. Post #609 and #610 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?137240-The-Island-In-Play&p=2053395291&viewfull=1#post2053395291) Later in the phase you deliberately waited until the end of the phase to decide the fates of two players, choosing Arjos.
3. You claim to have information that you won't reveal when asked about it.
3) I'm still convinced Lewwyn was scum. Could I be wrong? Sure, but I don't think so. Why? I'm sorry but this is one of the cases where I cannot reveal my lead.
4. People who vote for you end up night killed. Edse(tied you with scottishranger) and Choxorn last night, Riedquat and DaveShack the previous night.
5. Easy votes.
Day 1. Lewwyn
Day 2. Did not Vote
Day 3. Lewwyn
Day 4. Lewwyn
Day 5. Lewwyn
Day 6. scottishranger(who blatantly wanted out of the game, wasted vote)
Day 7. Arjos(you chose between him and a tie with Xenoneb right before the deadline, deliberately of coarse, avoiding all pressure of having your vote scrutinized or having to explain it)
In addition to your behavior, these are reasons for voting you.
Riedquat
11-10-2011, 20:06
4. People who vote for you end up night killed. Edse(tied you with scottishranger) and Choxorn last night, Riedquat and DaveShack the previous night.
You know... he can't be responsible of the death of 4 people... Edse and Choxorn died same night, same with Daveshack and me... so the same logic that points towards him, exonerate him... umm...
Yes and both TLD and Skooma are silly lynches, so people get on with it XD
Skooma Addict
11-10-2011, 20:12
You know... he can't be responsible of the death of 4 people... Edse and Choxorn died same night, same with Daveshack and me... so the same logic that points towards him, exonerate him... umm...
All four of them, no. Two of them, yes.
How else do you propose we find the scum in a game with no pro-town roles?
So far all these "behaviours" were townies trying to come up with something...
Imo, and looking at the possible only mafia we got, we have to look at a change in the players behaviour...
Monty: tried to get the SK to talk via PMs and he's doing all his "calculations" for phases etc (seems just like his usual town self)
TLD: voted and unvoted to instill some reaction in his choice, and when he's convinced he doesn't give up, just like with Lewwyn (again checks out)
Skooma: don't know him too well, but he's been playing very similarly to the reality show's game (was town there too)
TC: in the few games I saw him, he always posted his succint analysis every now and then, here he had to pick up a game already started (I'm keen to believe he's townie, if he isn't hats down)
Visorslash: I really can't tell unfortunately :S
Lazy: very flimsy in his explainations and lurked most of the game (in the reality show he was somewhat similar, but far more present)
Cahoma: eagerly wanted to follow the SK's messages, seeing how no one was going along with it he went in a total lurk mode (very unusual for him)
Xenoneb: never gave any reasoning for his votes and lately picked up the scottishranger's mentality (he won't vote most likely, we should have lynched him already)
Now, I don't pretend this to be bulletproof, but is at least a bit more logical than going after people for OMGUSs...
Riedquat
11-10-2011, 20:33
All four of them, no. Two of them, yes.
The thing is the other 2 fit in the same reasoning... TLD killed two of the persons who voted him... and the other mafia/sk killed the other two? Are they working together or what?
Earthling
11-10-2011, 21:10
Montmorency - Seemed scummy to me all game
TinCow - NOT SCUM
Oh! The Last Days - DEFINITELY SCUM
LazyMcCrow - NOT SCUM
Cahoma - (Probably) NOT SCUM
Xenoneb - (Probably) NOT SCUM
Visorslash - SCUMMY AS HELL
Skooma Addict - SCUMMY AS HELL
This seems very good to me, except I don't agree entirely on TLD having to be scum. One of the scummier acting ones, sure. The others you call scummy are also decent lynches. TinCow is of course going to get murdered by the SK tonight unless he's lynched today, there's nothing else we can do about that.
Earthling
11-10-2011, 21:14
Also, Death is Yonder's analysis is truly AWFUL and Crow's posts looked more townie than almost all of those still alive. Skooma is worse in terms of every single argument DiY made against Crow.
Shameless bandwagoning by people just to follow DiY likewise clearly means that's not the right lynch, the mafia are taking the easy target rather than it being a mafia targeted who is fighting back.
Voting concluded. Stand by for execution.
The Island - Day 8 - Conclusion
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/Tropicalisland.jpg
In a previous life he had been an enemy of Loki. The mortal that was once known as The Last Days had paid for his lack of faith with his life, back in those dark times, times when the Gods walked among the mortals.
Today, the tourist Oh! The Last Days faced 7 other tourists ready to kill him. Somebody high up in the skies looked down, highly amused.
Pointing fingers here and there, acting with a lot of self confidence and bravado, the man with a way too long name and thus from now on known as OTLD, tried to escape his inevitable fate.
Alas, the tourists did no longer believe him. They surrounded him and bloodlust was in their eyes. It had been days since they had eaten, and they were hungry. Very hungry...
There was no way out for OTLD when the tourists came closer.
Suddenly, the earth started to tremble and a OTLD got catapulted into the air by a geiser that really didn't belong there. But it was there!
Amazed at his luck (surely he had done something good in his previous life, with the Gods favouring him like that!), OTLD looked behind him and saw the other tourists with confused looks on their faces, some 10 meters away.
OTLD ran away from them. He was a fast man. An excellent athlete, much faster than the fastests of the other tourists. He ran and ran, but unfortunately, a wooden chair suddenly got in his way, blown there by the wind. He fell down, stood up quickly and ran; the others were still behind him. Suddenly, a wind coming from another direction blew a plastic toy right before his feet and he fell again. Now the tourists were coming very near. A hard wind pushed him on the ground. He stood up again, but found himself surrounded by the tourists. They came near. Sharp teeth ready to sink in his flesh, when suddenly all the tourists fell on the floor. OTLD was happily surprised, jumped over them and ran into the sea.
He preferred drowning in a fruitless attempt to escape the Island over being eaten alive! And so, he jumped in the water and he started swimming. A lucky gulfstream and a hard wind, made him go incredibly fast; in no time he was about two hundred meters deep into the water. He saw the tourists gesticulating and yelling in frustration. He made it! And wasn't that a small motorboat, some hundred meters away from him? He couldn't believe how lucky he was!
OTLD bursted out in laughter and swum toward the boat. With his hand on the boat, ready to climb in, he looked back at the tourists one last time, yelling at them:
"HAHAHAHAHA! YOU WON'T CATCH ME! I WON'T BE EATEN ALIVE! I'M OUT OF HERE!"
While he was laughing and taunting the tourists, he didn't notice the giant white shark, ready to bite off both his legs...
A burst of laughter came down from the skies...
***
Tally
Oh! The Last Days: 3 (Skooma, LazyMcCrow, TinCow) :skull:
LazyMcCrow: 2 (Visorslash, Oh!TLD)
Xenoneb: 1 (Montmorency)
Not voting: 2 (Cahoma, Xenoneb)
***
Alive (7/32):
Montmorency
TinCow
LazyMcCrow
Cahoma
Xenoneb
Visorslash
Skooma Addict
Killed (16)
Sasaki Kojiro
Death is yonder
Askthepizzaguy
Bow-wow-wow
autolycus
hero di classico
landlubber
Tiaexz
Seon
Frozen in Ice
God Emperor
Jarema
Riedquat
Daveshack
Choxorn
edse
Lynched (8)
Beefy187
Ishmael
Chaotix
EarthlingLewwyn
scottishranger
Arjos
Oh! The Last Days
WOG/Suicide (1)
Warman
***
It's now night. PM's please.
Note: It's the opening of the Carnaval season and I'll be afk tomorrow and the better part of Saturday, so this night phase will last 48 hours instead of the usual 24.
I'm afraid this was yet another swing and a miss :S
a geiser that really didn't belong there. But it was there!
Ahahahahahah XD
DaveShack
11-10-2011, 23:40
disregard...
Montmorency
11-11-2011, 00:31
Oi, this ain't the end of the round? Alright, I'm tired and I'm pissed, and I still don't like this bandwagon on TLD. There's guaranteed to be scum in it, even if we assume that TLD is scum himself. Especially, actually.
Regarding Xenon: He's similar to Scottish, yes. But that's because he started aping scottish as soon as he quit lurking.
Scottish lurks.
Xenon semi-lurks.
Scottish self-votes.
Xenon self-votes
Scottish dies and claims he wanted out all along.
Xenon begs to be killed, claims to want out.
That just doesn't seem right to me. :shrug:
So, I don't know. At this point, I haven't been convinced by the cases on either Crow or TLD. But it's not like it matters, given that TLD has the plurality. I hope ypu're right.
:bow:
Montmorency
11-11-2011, 00:31
Oh, gee. Nvm. I'm tired, OK? Cut me some slack.
Oi, this ain't the end of the round? Alright, I'm tired and I'm pissed, and I still don't like this bandwagon on TLD. There's guaranteed to be scum in it, even if we assume that TLD is scum himself. Especially, actually.
Regarding Xenon: He's similar to Scottish, yes. But that's because he started aping scottish as soon as he quit lurking.
Scottish lurks.
Xenon semi-lurks.
Scottish self-votes.
Xenon self-votes
Scottish dies and claims he wanted out all along.
Xenon begs to be killed, claims to want out.
That just doesn't seem right to me. :shrug:
So, I don't know. At this point, I haven't been convinced by the cases on either Crow or TLD. But it's not like it matters, given that TLD has the plurality. I hope ypu're right.
:bow:
About my action, I didn't even know that Scottish was dead. I thought that it be a long time until this game was over, and I just had started my own mafia game. Seeing that there is only 7 guys left, it shouldn't long until it ends. I'll be more active from now on.
Montmorency
11-11-2011, 06:22
*grunt of acknowledgement*
TheLastDays
11-11-2011, 08:50
Great show, town, keep it up and I'll see y'all soon. Counting "Vengeanve" that's 2 out of 2 where townie TLD was lynched because people were frustrated with/afraid of his style of play.
If it isn't too late already, you guys need to lynch Visor.
LazyMcCrow
11-11-2011, 10:23
Great show, town, keep it up and I'll see y'all soon. Counting "Vengeanve" that's 2 out of 2 where townie TLD was lynched because people were frustrated with/afraid of his style of play.
If it isn't too late already, you guys need to lynch Visor.
I'm not sure that it was fear and frustration that led to your lynching, but I'm down with the call for Visorslash's death.
vote: visorslash
TheLastDays
11-11-2011, 10:49
It's night, at least have the decency of letting the man kill you before you vote him :wink:
LazyMcCrow
11-11-2011, 10:59
Indeed. :shame:
TheLastDays
11-11-2011, 13:33
I'm dead, I don't need reasons, see Sasaki :tongue:
No, wait, that doesn't work. Alright:
1. You are not your regular, reckless self.
2. I don't have time right now, I might be back for more, later :yes:
Hey. That's right. He isn't accusing everyone. Very scummy for him to act like this.
Only for Visorslash is not acting scummy, acting scummy :yes:
I'm dead, I don't need reasons, see Sasaki :tongue:
No, wait, that doesn't work. Alright:
1. You are not your regular, reckless self.
2. I don't have time right now, I might be back for more, later :yes:
I don't have the time nor inclination to act reckless in this game. No abilities, no other factions, etc.
I'm not always reckless when I play.
TheLastDays
11-11-2011, 23:17
You had no abilities in, let's say, Music Mafia either. Don't confuse reckless with very active. We all go through seasons where we have less time to play but the posts you make, however few they are, just seem so... careful.
Music Mafia I was a detective.
Montmorency is the scum you are looking for.
TheLastDays
11-11-2011, 23:43
So, when you're a detective is the right time to be reckless? :tongue:
And, you don't have time this game, yet you are here to defend yourself, now that you're on the chopping block.
So, when you're a detective is the right time to be reckless? :tongue:
And, you don't have time this game, yet you are here to defend yourself, now that you're on the chopping block.
Check my post count compared others, compared to previous games, it's a lot lower. Even in Capo I was one of the top posters while alive. That's what I mean when I don't have time. I'm not on any chopping block.
Montmorency
11-12-2011, 18:31
I'm not sure that that's a very convincing argument against Visor.
But, having exchanged opinions several times during this game, I did get a different perspective on him. You wouldn't be pulling a Vespasian on me, would you?
Look at the quotes in his Sig
The Island - Night 9 - Conclusion
https://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/AndresTheCunning/Tropicalisland.jpg
LazyMcCrow was hiding deep in a cave. It was dark and the only sounds he heard were those of dripping water. He breathed very softly. Surely, the killers wouldn't find him here!
"We must make an end of it this night. Your foul blandishments could stay my hand for only so long - Gorbachev. Our union is broken."
LazyMcCrow became very pale. But he still didn't move. The killer wouldn't find him as long as he simply didn't move. He closed his eyes and held his breath.
Suddenly, a heavy weight came down on him.
"Oh no! No no no! Not me, oh please, not me!"
A hard rock on the back of his head ended all his fears...
***
Skooma Addict was sitting on the beach, watching the moon and enjoying his last bottle of skooma. A big stone hit him on his head, rendering him unconscious.
He woke up with the smell of cigarettes. He opened his eyes and saw the burning cigarettes coming near. He screamed as soon as both cigarettes touched his eyeballs. Slowly, the cigarettes burned holes in his eyes and very slowly, they were shoved in his eyes, piercing through them and eventually burning his braincells, causing Skooma's dead and a mercifull end of the toruture.
His head was cut off with a razor sharp blade and then put in the coconut supply. The other ends of the cigarettes were being lit shortly before sunrise.
***
The Island - Day 9
The tourists stared at LazyMcCrow's body hanging upside down on a tree. One of them reached for a coconut and screamed it out when he saw Skooma's head with the burning cigarettes.
A collective sigh could be heard and the tourists started the proceedings.... Again...
***
Alive (5/32):
Montmorency
TinCow
Cahoma
Xenoneb
Visorslash
Killed (18)
Sasaki Kojiro
Death is yonder
Askthepizzaguy
Bow-wow-wow
autolycus
hero di classico
landlubber
Tiaexz
Seon
Frozen in Ice
God Emperor
Jarema
Riedquat
Daveshack
Choxorn
edse
LazyMcCrow
Skooma Addict
Lynched (8)
Beefy187
Ishmael
Chaotix
EarthlingLewwyn
scottishranger
Arjos
Oh! The Last Days
WOG/Suicide (1)
Warman
***
It's now day. You can start voting. Day will last +/- 24 hours.
Montmorency
11-12-2011, 23:06
Well.
Cahoma? Xenon? But apparently they're just not very into it. Definitely not trying to lay low.
Tincow I've never played with. Nothing in the writeups reminds me of The Thing-style. Has replacement credibility.
Visor? But so agreeable.
Your moves, people...
I'd agree with ruling TC out. SO it's Monty, Cahoma, Xenon and myself right?
I'm going for Xenon. I'll post reasoning a little later.
Montmorency
11-12-2011, 23:30
I would suspect Xenon over Cahoma (perhaps the 2nd?), yes, but don't rule him out. I was surprised by his slick performance in Capo.
Vote: Xenon
Montmorency
11-12-2011, 23:34
Never mind, thought I saw a f orum error.
Sasaki Kojiro
11-13-2011, 00:54
hmm, monty is definitely scum. And probably visor too.
And cahoma the sk?
Lynch monty.
Montmorency
11-13-2011, 01:02
And this is the one time you're finally correct, then? Hmm...
And cahoma the sk?
So you think he's the SK? Clarify.
Ok, so far we saw an attacker sewering heads, which I assume is the SK...
While the other/s had russian names and looked for Gorbachev; but he/they left a message at one point:
Lazy McCrow, Xenoneb, Visorslash, Jarema.
One of these is not like the others.
I'd say that we have either a Cahoma - Xenoneb or a Cahoma - Visorslash, as pairs for our last killers...
I wanna hear from Xenoneb and Visorslash, but I think that Visor is the SK not Xenon...
Montmorency
11-13-2011, 01:27
Huh, Visor as SK?
And the severed heads with the coconuts (N5 (FiI) and N9 (Skooma)) have been Mafia. Unless we assume Mafia started using the Gorbachev line, while the SK dropped it.
Frozen In Ice
11-13-2011, 01:27
Monty is cum. At least that's what my gut says.
Montmorency
11-13-2011, 01:29
Who's who is beside the point anyway, both the Russian and the SK have to die.
I puzzled by that too, but I thought the SK was the one with cigarettes, sewering heads and laughing: it fits the profile of the psycho (remember there was supposed to be a psychiatrist)...
Who's who is beside the point anyway, both the Russian and the SK have to die.
Yes, but I wanted to understand who left the messages; the SK or the mafia...
Montmorency
11-13-2011, 01:35
:shrug:
With Cahoma as mafia, somehow scanning for the SK, since he can't kill him, leaving the message and urging town to lynch them all; this would give us quite a safe lynch I think, no?
But if it's the SK who left the names, it all gets quite unclear :S
Montmorency
11-13-2011, 01:42
But how does that implicate Cahoma over Xenon?
D1
robbiecon (TinCow) doesn't vote
Xenoneb votes Visorslash
Visorslah votes Chaotix
Cahoma votes landlubber
Monty abstains
D2
robbiecon (TinCow) doesn't vote
Xenoneb votes Skooma
Visorslash votes Xenoneb
Cahoma doesn't vote
Monty doesn't vote
D3
robbiecon (TinCow) doesn't vote
Xenoneb votes Monty
Visorslash votes Chaotix
Cahoma votes Monty
Monty votes Chaotix
D4
TinCow votes Monty
Xenoneb votes Earthling
Visorslash votes Lazy
Cahoma votes Arjos
Monty abstains
D5
TinCow votes TLD
Xenoneb votes TLD
Visorslash votes Cahoma
Cahoma votes Lewwyn
Monty voted Cahoma
D6
TinCow doesn't vote
Xenoneb votes TLD
Visorslash votes Cahoma
Cahoma doesn't vote
Monty votes scottishranger
D7
TinCow votes Arjos
Xenoneb doesn't vote
Visorslash votes Xenoneb
Cahoma doesn't vote
Monty votes Xenoneb
D8
TinCow votes TLD
Xenoneb doesn't vote
Visorslash votes Lazy
Cahoma doesn't vote
Monty votes Xenoneb
TinCow and Xenoneb seems voting for people they "locked on"; Cahoma is rather present, yet is lurking at incredible lvls XD; Visor and Monty following some reasoning each round...
While for Cahoma over Xenoneb, he really wanted to get those names killed (btw that was after our possible lynch of a mafia) and is an outright lurker this game...
Anyway I'm dead XD
Hope the list can be of some help...
Montmorency
11-13-2011, 03:22
Well Cahoma, now that I look at his posts, seems to be moatly inactive in general. Last post was 2 days ago and prior to that, 6 days before.
...
I made up a big case against Xenon here, but looking at it now, I have to admit it's not founded on very strong premises, and some things could definitely be explained by the fact that he is running his own game elsewhere.
But then that means -
Unvote
What
Montmorency
11-13-2011, 03:40
Well, I'll pick out what I thought was the strongest piece of evidence against him, for general consideration.
Earthling had 3 votes near the end of the day he was lynched. He voted Seon.
At the nearly literal last minute, Xenon made a 1-line post voting for Earthling. This pushed him to 4, and he was lynched by the GM tiebreaker.
The writeups changed on N5. No mafioso's name was mentioned then or since.
Players killed by SK or lynched around writeup change:
Earthling (D4)
Seon (N5)
It changed N5, so nothing after could have affected it. A mafioso could not have died before N4, because it would have been reflected in that night's writeup. On that night (n4), both scum appeared for the last time.
Montmorency
11-13-2011, 03:43
And what made me disregard it:
That was what he kept telling himself. He had seen them. The shadows. But they wouldn't get him. Oh no, not him. He kept running. Fast. Adrenaline was pumping through his veins. He wouldn't give up.
If Xenoneb is mafia or SK, I don't see the motive in tying a mafia (Earthling, if he rlly was one) with a townie...
I don't think the SK knows who the mafia are...
And what made me disregard it:
There is a plural in even last night alleged mafia kill, but imo it just means all the attackers...
Montmorency
11-13-2011, 03:48
That's not what I thought it indicated, and I refuted it the post after anyway.
Let's go safe and Vote:Cahoma
I'm just going to state for the record that I think Visorslash is scum. His posting style seems a lot more cautious this game than in others.
Visorslash, best OMGUS reasoning ever.
I'm just going to state for the record that I think Visorslash is scum. His posting style seems a lot more cautious this game than in others.
Yes, the Cahoma - Visorslash pair seems the best, but then we all been wrong whole game so what the hell :D
I'm just going to state for the record that I think Visorslash is scum. His posting style seems a lot more cautious this game than in others.
It depends on the game. CFC, I could be jailed and survive. Capo I had the reassurances of lynch and nightkill protection.
Anyway, so who do you think is the SK and mafia then?
That's my problem - both your behaviour and TinCow's seems SKish to me, but obviously that means I'm at least 50% wrong. And, knowing my record, you're both innocent townies :beam:.
:laugh4:
But what do you mean by SKish? Not quite getting it.
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