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Veho Nex
09-22-2011, 21:41
Faster than light particle discovered. Einstein rolling over in grave. (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/09/22/international/i110640D12.DTL)

CERN says a neutrino beam fired from a particle accelerator near Geneva to a lab 454 miles (730 kilometers) away in Italy traveled 60 nanoseconds faster than the speed of light. Scientists calculated the margin of error at just 10 nanoseconds, making the difference statistically significant. But given the enormous implications of the find, they still spent months checking and rechecking their results to make sure there was no flaws in the experiment.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/09/22/international/i110640D12.DTL#ixzz1YiRbXWsO

Personally, this is the best news I've heard in a long time. Humanity is one step closer to fulfilling my dreams that should never happen.

Arjos
09-22-2011, 21:45
That's nice!
FTLs and Hyperdrives here we come :P

Moros
09-22-2011, 23:09
***** Apparantly I missed this topic and posted the same thing over again.

Louis VI the Fat
09-22-2011, 23:12
No, Moros's thread was posted first. It just travelled faster than light and therefore went back in time, arriving later.

E=mc2ish

Moros
09-22-2011, 23:13
I think we might be little bit rushing things. First we're not sure yet if we're dealing with a systematic error, nor that the speed of light can be breached by all kinds of matter,... Even if true it certainly doesn't mean travelling faster than the speed of light is possible. It doesn't even mean travelling with the speed of light even will ever be possible.

Veho Nex
09-22-2011, 23:16
I think we might be little bit rushing things. First we're not sure yet if we're dealing with a systematic error, nor that the speed of light can be breached by all kinds of matter,... Even if true it certainly doesn't mean travelling faster than the speed of light is possible. It doesn't even mean travelling with the speed of light even will ever be possible.

Aren't you the negative nancy :P

Arjos
09-22-2011, 23:17
Well still groundbreaking to discover something that should be impossible...

Moros
09-23-2011, 00:03
There's no discovery yet. It's merely an observation that needs to checked carefully first. If the observations do appear to be correct we have a fascinating observation. Then comes the hard part; who's good at math and has enough fantasy to make the story work.

a completely inoffensive name
09-23-2011, 00:09
Peer review, peer review, peer review.

Nothing to say until the community chimes in.

Papewaio
09-23-2011, 03:33
Tachyons.

Mass cannot go at the speed of light... Infinite energy required... But it doesn't stop things going at the speed of light like photons (which have momentum but no mass) and Tachyons which start beyond the light speed barrier and potentially intwined quantum particles.

What the little neutral ones (neutrino's) might break is the light barrier for particles with mass.

stratigos vasilios
09-23-2011, 04:09
This is very cool, very interesting to read. Although I do not have a strong background in physics, I found the article very simple and enjoyable...maybe that's the problem :laugh4:


That's nice!
FTLs and Hyperdrives here we come :P

Yes yes yes!!!

All we need to do is find and defrost the Charon Relay near Pluto to get our space exploration up and running!

CBR
09-23-2011, 04:23
Too early to pop the champagne. But warp drives would be nice.

Samurai Waki
09-23-2011, 04:50
You know-- sometimes you get comfortable in thinking we can't go much farther and then something that could be absolutely shattering comes up and it makes you wonder how much farther you can go. It's like the Mongols discovering stirrups.

naut
09-23-2011, 05:29
Peer review, peer review, peer review.

Nothing to say until the community chimes in.
Exactly. It's still within certain boundaries of observational error.

rajpoot
09-23-2011, 08:34
So how much longer before they discover the ruins on Mars now?

Ironside
09-23-2011, 08:40
Tachyons.

Mass cannot go at the speed of light... Infinite energy required... But it doesn't stop things going at the speed of light like photons (which have momentum but no mass) and Tachyons which start beyond the light speed barrier and potentially intwined quantum particles.

What the little neutral ones (neutrino's) might break is the light barrier for particles with mass.

Tachyons are still a theoretical product though. They could exist according to the math, but there's no actual data on them (yet?).

The Stranger
09-23-2011, 11:46
Not nearly as quick as a DPT buggy after spotting an expired meter.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/09/22/international/i110640D12.DTL#ixzz1Ylt3vGgD

Hamata
09-23-2011, 14:32
Perhaps the particles was commanded by scottie? "WARPSPEEED!" :clown: but in all seriousness this is prety cool

gaelic cowboy
09-24-2011, 06:11
The bartender said 'We don't serve faster-than-light neutrinos here'.

A neutrino walked into a bar.