View Full Version : Rest in peace tony83
tony 83 was a modder with rome total realisem and there is also a RIP thread for him at total war center
link here :sad2: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=484368
Requiescat in pace. :bow:
I didn't know him, but I hope whoever he was, he finds peace awaiting him.
Cute Wolf
09-28-2011, 05:34
Tony never visit the ORG anyway, and there's few RTR and RS fans here... most of them are at TWC
RIP
LeftEyeNine
09-28-2011, 10:41
I see he passed away while on his favorite occupation. That's somewhat relieving for I think it is a better way if it has to get you one day.
RIP.
Populus Romanus
09-28-2011, 13:51
RIP Tony.
Interestingly, he has the same real life name as me.
Samurai Waki
09-28-2011, 17:48
I played RTR back when Rome was still THE game... but haven't since. I never knew of any of the modders (I don't have an account at TWC), but it was high quality, and that speaks volumes about Tony83.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
09-29-2011, 17:04
RIP!
Templar Knight
10-02-2011, 18:27
Turns out he was a nice guy and a fake.
Populus Romanus
10-02-2011, 18:30
What do you mean, a "fake"?
Templar Knight
10-02-2011, 18:39
For the past 5-6 years he was posting photos of a male model, and claiming that it was him. He would also usually post pictures of this person in underware and encourage other male members of TWC to pose in underware too.
He claimed he was gay and had a boyfriend called Ian, no big deal there, however the model in question is straight and is a public figure, in a small way, but still somewhat famous in certain circles. It was brought to TWC attention on a number of occasions that this might result in slander and possible legal action. It could well be ID fraud.
His other accounts on other forums were active on 27th when we was supposed to have passed away on the 25th. The 'news' was broken by his 'brother' just hours after. Of cource these accounts may have been accessed by someone else.
His photos were taken off of TWC just a couple of days after his death when someone brought it to the attention of the forum staff, again. This time they finally took his images off.
Read more here: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?p=10387314#post10387314
Cute Wolf
10-03-2011, 04:32
For the past 5-6 years he was posting photos of a male model, and claiming that it was him. He would also usually post pictures of this person in underware and encourage other male members of TWC to pose in underware too.
He claimed he was gay and had a boyfriend called Ian, no big deal there, however the model in question is straight and is a public figure, in a small way, but still somewhat famous in certain circles. It was brought to TWC attention on a number of occasions that this might result in slander and possible legal action. It could well be ID fraud.
His other accounts on other forums were active on 27th when we was supposed to have passed away on the 25th. The 'news' was broken by his 'brother' just hours after. Of cource these accounts may have been accessed by someone else.
His photos were taken off of TWC just a couple of days after his death when someone brought it to the attention of the forum staff, again. This time they finally took his images off.
Read more here: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?p=10387314#post10387314
what?
Populus Romanus
10-03-2011, 04:36
Okay...this is bizzare to the extreme.
Cute Wolf
10-03-2011, 04:48
can anyone gave a light here and give a photo about how "the model in question" looks like?
I start to feel real pity for Tony if the real case is he just actually the model in question's lookalike and not really imitating him on purpose
Templar Knight
10-03-2011, 12:21
They dont look anything like each other, as was confirmed by his brother and forum members who had met him in person. He was living the life of someone else online, which many people will do, expect he done it over a period of 5 or so years at TWC.
Cute Wolf
10-03-2011, 12:28
They dont look anything like each other, as was confirmed by his brother and forum members who had met him in person. He was living the life of someone else online, which many people will do, expect he done it over a period of 5 or so years at TWC.
ugh, and just look for real photo collections myself, well...
Still, he's among the best modders over here, his skinning details was awesome, and RTRVII is still among the most polished mods outta here.
Templar Knight
10-03-2011, 12:31
If you ever seen the photos tony had posted claiming to be him, then thats what the model in question looks like.
Yeah he was a very talented person. He will be missed.
Rhyfelwyr
10-03-2011, 16:02
I popped into the "Say Cheese" thread at TWC sometimes.
Well that turned out to be quite a surreal story, not really sure how to feel.
Templar Knight
10-03-2011, 16:06
A lot of people at TWC said they wern't suprised by the news. My only question is: how did it go on for so long?
The fact is he was a nice, friendly, helpful guy but its just a shock to many that knew him that he was living a lie in a way.
Rhyfelwyr
10-03-2011, 16:29
But did you say that he might not actually be dead, that other accounts were still active?
Templar Knight
10-03-2011, 17:21
Other accounts that he used were still active 2 days afterwards, but as was said before and by others it could have been the admins or someone else.
We have to take it that he has passed away until we learn otherwise.
Mouzafphaerre
10-04-2011, 22:44
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Templar Knight
10-09-2011, 17:22
He is not dead according to the TWC admins after a detailed investigation.
The member "Tony83" posted pictures of another person claiming the images as his own. We have evidence that the person in the images is in no way associated with the user of the "Tony83" account. We are certain about the identity of the person in the photos and fairly confident about the true identity of "Tony83".
The user behind the Tony83 account has victimized some TWC members who shared images with him by posting their pictures, without their consent or knowledge, on other sites; some of which were pornography sites.
We are still investigating this case and we will consider further action if we feel it is necessary. If any member has exchanged pictures with that user please contact any administrator by PM and we may be able to assist at their removal.
We have no reason to believe that the member using the Tony83 account is deceased.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=487150
Rhyfelwyr
10-09-2011, 19:42
Um... wow.
Peasant Phill
10-09-2011, 21:31
Um... wow.
That's about all you can say about that.
Templar Knight
10-09-2011, 21:50
I suspected that he was still alive and had faked his death to try and avoid getting into trouble when the news broke about him being a fake and posting other members pictures on porn sites. Turns out I and many others were right.
Cute Wolf
10-10-2011, 09:11
Tony83 is among the best skilled modders....
too bad he does the impersonation of model artist and claiming he was gay...
and doing some straight bashing at TWC...
Templar Knight
10-11-2011, 19:05
Edit: For being silly :bow:
Veho Nex
10-11-2011, 19:51
Its like a giant soap opera! Hoozah ladies and gentlemen we are living in great times, great times indeed.
TheLastDays
10-11-2011, 20:04
I suggest you dig into the whole thread before leaking false information.
I have never really visited the TWC but even as a non TWCer I could do better than gathering your false info from the relevant thread.
I quote from the OP of that thread:
After a protracted and detailed investigation we have to inform the members about the following:
* The member "Tony83" posted pictures of another person claiming the images as his own. We have evidence that the person in the images is in no way associated with the user of the "Tony83" account. We are certain about the identity of the person in the photos and fairly confident about the true identity of "Tony83".
* The user behind the Tony83 account has victimized some TWC members who shared images with him by posting their pictures, without their consent or knowledge, on other sites; some of which were pornography sites.
* We are still investigating this case and we will consider further action if we feel it is necessary. If any member has exchanged pictures with that user please contact any administrator by PM and we may be able to assist at their removal.
* We have no reason to believe that the member using the Tony83 account is deceased.
We understand that internet anonymity offers people the chance to assume a persona which may differ from reality. However, that anonymity does not excuse the user of the Tony83 account from deceitfully exploiting others. His malicious behavior has forced us to make this announcement in order to protect the TWC membership and the site.
Thank you,
TWC
And a statement that was issued several times:
Keep the discussion within what's been stated in the Hex statement in the OP, or what has been disclosed by individuals directly involved. No name-calling, no accusations beyond the evidence presented.
tony83 had no Moderator rights, he has gained the trust of some members (some of these were obviously minors) and misused that trust to get them to send him compromising photos of themselves, which he then uploaded to various internet sites (some of them apparently porn sites).
tony83 also used pictures of a public figure, stating that those were photos of himself. This public figure has no direct connection to tony83, as far as the ones looking into it know.
No one but tony83 was involved, that is, as the perpetrator, several were obviously involved as victims, although there is no mention of an admin sending pictures to tony83.
I think, even though we are not members of TWC (some are) and this is not TWC, we should respect their request and we should stay away from speculating about their site, it's members or staff.
I think this thread should be closed.
Templar Knight
10-11-2011, 20:33
Im a member of TWcenter and have been for years. (under a different name from this forum) I have had PM's sent to me that confirm what I just said earlier.
I suggested that tony83's ISP be contacted so that he could be charged, so far nothings been done.
TheLastDays
10-11-2011, 21:07
I have read the additional thread and have to retract the statement that tony83 wasn't a moderator. It seems he was, although this has never been hidden over there. Since I'm not a TWC regular I think I can be forgiven for making this mistake.
Anything else I said is part of the information revealed there. Particularly the accusations towards one of their admins have been revealed as false and later claimed, by the person who first uttered them, to be a joke.
I have the slight feeling your name over there is "The Illusionist" and all the speculation and conspiracy theories you're throwing around are not helping matters. As I said, let's respect what the staff of TWC have requested.
Templar Knight
10-11-2011, 21:25
I agree we'll end it there. And no my user name isn't "The Illusionist".
Pannonian
10-11-2011, 22:02
Im a member of TWcenter and have been for years. (under a different name from this forum) I have had PM's sent to me that confirm what I just said earlier.
I suggested that tony83's ISP be contacted so that he could be charged, so far nothings been done.
Who did you contact? If you don't want to reply publicly, you can PM me here or at TWC. I have the same name over there.
Pannonian
10-11-2011, 22:03
deleted double post.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-11-2011, 22:54
He is not dead according to the TWC admins after a detailed investigation.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=487150
TWC's Tera-Gate 8 times worse? :dizzy2:
This is why I am happy I was perma-banned at TWC. :dizzy2:
TWC's Tera-Gate 8 times worse? :dizzy2:
This is why I am happy I was perma-banned at TWC. :dizzy2:
That's enough of that.
ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88
10-11-2011, 23:44
That's enough of that.
Oh, look who it is saying a provocation statement.
Edit: Edited it to shield your sensitive eyes. :clown:
:yes: :bow:
Garbarsardar
10-12-2011, 02:18
First of all I am sorry that this situation spilled over here; I guess it was unavoidable.
Tony83 was given local moderator powers in one thread. Local moderators have the rights to move and delete posts (soft-delete, obviously, the posts remain in the database). They do not have access to the mod CP nor to the infraction system or any other privileged information. All mod leaders are also Local Moderators in their mod fora. So, being a local moderator does not grant any special privilege to a user. What Tony did was not aided by his ability to move posts around in one thread.
The public figure angle is a new one. Is planet Nibiru involved at all? Jimmy Hoffa?
Im a member of TWcenter and have been for years. (under a different name from this forum) I have had PM's sent to me that confirm what I just said earlier.
I suggested that tony83's ISP be contacted so that he could be charged, so far nothings been done.
Confirmed by PMs. Must be true then. Meh.
You cannot really have any idea of what actions we have or have not taken. I am not going to discuss it here since there is no point in informing Tony of what we are doing, but I assure you that whatever you have contemplated we have contemplated twice already.
Kagemusha
10-12-2011, 05:41
Thank you for keeping us up to date on this one Garb.:bow: This seems like an unfortunate and disturbing series of events, but sometimes it cant be helped. Bad things will happen from time to time.
This seems to be a very unfortunate string of events.
I wish the TWC staff the best of luck in handling this mess.
Im a member of TWcenter and have been for years. (under a different name from this forum) I have had PM's sent to me that confirm what I just said earlier.
I suggested that tony83's ISP be contacted so that he could be charged, so far nothings been done.
You should be very careful with your assumptions.
The possiblity of a pedophile abusing TWC for his disgusting activities is a real, serious problem that could have serious implications IRL on all people involved.
This is no longer about forum politics, power games, conspiracies and "the evil staff covering up" and such (not aimed directly at you, Templar, just a general statement).
Given the nature of these events, it seems very unlikely to me that the TWC staff would give much information to the public at large. This is a matter that needs to be treated with the utmost delicacy and respect for the privacy of all parties involved.
I really don't see a reason why the general membership would be entitled to know all details. This is a very difficult position for the TWC staff to be in with even potential nasty repercussions on their own RL's. Given the fact that TWC staff, just like .Org staff, are only volunteers, dedicating their free time on a gamerssite simply for the joy and amusement of others, people should get off their back in this. Nobody working for free should have to be in this situation.
Again, I wish the TWC staff the best of luck to sort this out.
Spreading rumours and wild accusations about this is in very bad taste. Besides, if you really have important information that can help to catch a possible pedophile, then you shouldn't addres yourself to the TWC staff, but need to go directly to your local authorities.
Please be aware that falsely accusing somebody of being a pedophile or even suggesting that being an accomplice of a pedophile or being involved in child pornography may have serious implications for the accuser himself, certainly so if the accusations are based on nothing more than rumours, gossip and hearsay.
:bow:
Templar Knight
10-12-2011, 11:31
Well first off I would like to that I have since found out that the ones who mentioned the admin have issues with him over at TWC, so I have edited my post from earlier.
Well first off I would like to that I have since found out that the ones who mentioned the admin have issues with him over at TWC, so I have edited my post from earlier.
Perhaps it would be useful to point out to these people that this situation is bad enough as it is. (ab)Using this to spread false rumours about people they have an issue with over an internetforum is far beyond being in bad taste.
They should also note that falsely accusing people to cause them damage is considered to be a criminal offense in most nations.
After discussing the issue with fellow staff and in keeping with TWC's own response (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?p=10442126#post10442126), we have decided to call it a day and close this thread entirely. Anything that could be said has been, either here or at TWC; the last thing we want is to complicate the matter with unproven claims and such, so I ask that you do not open any more threads in relation to Tony83 and that we respect TWC's investigation into matters.
This situation has left a mark on the Total War community as a whole and it is under these circumstances that we should stand together rather than arguing about the why's and whatfor's.
Feel free to message myself or Ser Clegane if you have any qualms with this decision or any information pertinent to the subject.
:bow:
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