View Full Version : Small Mafia Game Clue Mafia [Concluded]
Credit goes to LightFang, from CFC, for the background and rules, to which I have made some slight modifications.
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Once upon a time, there was a town named Town. Some of the members of this town were members of a secret criminal organization. Most people were not.
One day, there were orders from the head honcho of said criminal organization: eliminate everybody in the town.
The question on their lips was: Why? The town was pretty much idyllic. There was a lake, it was moderately close to the beach, moderately close to the mountains, had a temperate climate, and had a low crime rate, high educational opportunities, and even had a thriving economy. Its chief export was vanilla; its chief import was chocolate.
But, like good mafiosos, they struck, quickly and silently. Due to bureaucratic limitations, however, they could only kill one person per night. So they killed Mayor Meuilleur.
Upon the discovery of the corpse, the townspeople suddenly knew what to do: about 20 of them would decide the fate of the rest of the town. They would do this by holding special votes and lynching people once per day until the mafiosos were dead. It had worked before (actually this had never been tried).
That being decided, the townspeople went to sleep, some for the last time...
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Some of you from CFC may know this style of game, but I don't believe it has ever been done here on the org before.
RULES
- 1 mafia for every six or seven townspeople.
- Nights will last approximately 24 hours.
- The game starts with Night.
- Mafia members will PM their kills and clues to me at night time.
- Clues can be either true or false, and they must alternate. You choose the veracity of your clue at the onset, and then they must alternate.
- All clues must be explained to me.
- If a mafia member fails to send in a clue, I will make a true clue.
- Example of a clue: "Charlie was found dead with a pizza stuffed down his pants." (incriminates Askthepizzaguy) *Remember to also give an explanation with your clues.
- Day will last approximately 24 hours.
- Voting will occur during the day.
- The amount of votes given will equal the number of mafia.
- All votes must be in the usual Vote: Zack format. If you wish to unvote, then use the Unvote, Vote: z4ckdabeast format.
- No votes for No Lynch or Abstain.
- Dead players may continue to talk, but they're not allowed to reveal any information which isn't already in the game thread.
- Alignment will be revealed upon death.
- No private communication of any kind.
- No screenshots, etc.
Click here for an example of a clue game. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=394178)
I don't need a set number of sign-ups, but around 12 - 17 would be ideal.
SIGN-UP LIST
1. johnhughthom
2. Montmorency
3. landlubber
4. Skooma Addict
5. Ishmael
6. Cecil XIX
7. Arjos
8. Askthepizzaguy
9. Cahoma
10. Captain Blackadder
11. robbiecon
12. hero di classico
13. edse
14. Seon
15. Chaotix
16. DaveShack
RESERVES
1. Oh! TheLastDays!
johnhughthom
11-02-2011, 14:19
Yes please.
Montmorency
11-02-2011, 21:19
Hoorah.
landlubber
11-02-2011, 22:37
I'll play.
Skooma Addict
11-03-2011, 01:53
In.
In, please. If I'm mafia I'm stuffed, as I'm terrible at making up subtle clues :yes:.
Montmorency
11-03-2011, 02:33
WIFOM
Vote: Ishmael
WIFOM
Vote: Ishmael
I've really set myself up now for the mafia to exclaim "Call me...Moby Dick" in their first kill :beam:.
Cecil XIX
11-03-2011, 05:10
I'll give this a whirl.
TheLastDays
11-03-2011, 07:33
I wanted to stay out of it. I tried. Sign me up as a reserve.
Askthepizzaguy
11-04-2011, 10:34
Hint: It's not Askthepizzaguy but he's going to die anyway.
:laugh4:
In. Why not?
This sounds fun and kinda weird. I want in please.
Captain Blackadder
11-04-2011, 12:22
Yes please
robbiecon
11-04-2011, 23:50
I'll sign up, every game I'm in at the moment is either really quiet, or I'm dead, or they're awaiting replacements.
It's been three days, and it looks like there simply just isn't enough interest for this. Please take this game off the queue.
johnhughthom
11-05-2011, 15:33
It's been three days, and it looks like there simply just isn't enough interest for this. Please take this game off the queue.
You said 12-17 would be ideal and you're 1 off the lower end of that, why not send out a few pms, you're bound to get another couple in.
TheLastDays
11-05-2011, 16:18
Actually you already have 12, counting me, so what's the big deal? A few PMs should net you a few more and this could run well :yes:
3 days to get the absolute bare minimum indicates a severe lack of interest. I don't want to host a game with uninterested players.
johnhughthom
11-05-2011, 17:34
On the corpse they found a suicide note, though they still didn't know who it was.
"I was a silly host who thought nobody wanted to play my game, and therefore nobody loved me..."
Host the darned game Zack. Just because we aren't quite as enthusiastic as you are regarding scissors doesn't mean we are uninterested. In fact, I resent that slur on my character. Mean Zack.
TheLastDays
11-05-2011, 18:07
Yea, I'm interested. I don't sign up if I'm not. The reason I only sigend up as a reserve is because I'm pretty limited timewise, atm.
3 days to get the absolute bare minimum indicates a severe lack of interest. I don't want to host a game with uninterested players.
I just think the clue aspect isn't too clear and people are lazy to read the other game ^^
classical_hero
11-07-2011, 19:01
Give me a clue.
DaveShack
11-08-2011, 06:55
I have tabs open to all the games I'm active in, and just don't remember to check the main rooms very often.
In. Even though I tend to get hammered in clue games, don't spend enough time looking at people's avatars and sigs...
Sorry, I forget to check the org.
There are enough players to start! Night 1 should begin rather shortly.
IT IS NOW NIGHT ONE!
Mafia, send in your orders.
(may be extended, as it is Night 1)
Askthepizzaguy
11-11-2011, 08:15
Awesome. Another mafia role. This will be the finest hour! Pizza's finest hour! No one will ever suspect I am scum! Bwahahaha!!!
Sigh...you guys get all the fun. I've played in 7 maifa games so far (I think? I've lost count), and haven't been scum in any. I can only believe that probability hates me.
TheLastDays
11-11-2011, 09:44
I get the clue! Lynch Ishmael!
TLD's name is a clue! He's planning to bring about the last days - by murdering everybody! Lynch Oh! The Last Days! (I apologise for using four exclamation marks in the one sentence - to be fair, 2 were in TLD's name :yes:)
classical_hero
11-11-2011, 11:03
Communist are a sort of scum. :p
Sigh...you guys get all the fun. I've played in 7 maifa games so far (I think? I've lost count), and haven't been scum in any. I can only believe that probability hates me.
Took me around 20ish games before I got one. :laugh4: Vespasian was my first, and C9 was my second and last.
classical_hero
11-11-2011, 13:19
For awhile i was getting scum roles left right and centre, now they have dried up for me.
Only mafia get PMs. Everyone else is just a vanilla townie.
Only mafia get PMs. Everyone else is just a vanilla townie.
sigh, I had so good clues figured out. anyone wanna here them?
Btw, I will be away until ~15:00 (GMT+2) at Sunday.
DaveShack
11-11-2011, 19:50
I was about to give Zack another poke if it hadn't started.
Askthepizzaguy
11-12-2011, 11:03
I've discovered a clue (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=PIm8nO8nVuk).
Mafia, please get in your orders!
And please explain your clues.
NIGHT THE FIRST
It was a bloody first night. Two townspeople were killed.
When the townspeople gathered in the morning, they realized the previous sentence was indeed true, and decided to investigate.
They went to Cahoma's house first.
His corpse wasn't very bloody, but it was covered in bruises. A broken drumstick was found near his body, along with the following note:
octopus... under the sea
Then, the townspeople went to Montmorency's smelly old shack.
His body was covered in bloody gashes. A cracked ship-in-a-bottle, with a miniature-sized pirate ship inside, was found lying near the body.
After witnessing the gruesome events of the previous night, the townspeople vowed to eliminate the evil mafiosos.
IT IS NOW DAY ONE.
You may vote for up to THREE different people.
PLAYERS
1. johnhughthom
2. Montmorency -- Townie, Killed Night 1
3. landlubber
4. Skooma Addict
5. Ishmael
6. Cecil XIX
7. Arjos
8. Askthepizzaguy
9. Cahoma -- Townie, Killed Night 1
10. Captain Blackadder
11. robbiecon
12. hero di classico
13. edse
14. Seon
15. Chaotix
16. DaveShack
Montmorency
11-13-2011, 03:29
Makes sense. Cahoma wasn't a smart choice, however.
Drumstick? "This old man, he played..."
Vote: hero di classico
The broken drumstick is a reference to the Music Mafia in which he played Phil Collins, a mafioso drummer who murdered people by beating them up with drumsticks. As this is an obscure reference, it is highly likely to be a True Clue.
Montmorency
11-13-2011, 03:45
What about those drumstick kills in A Country for Old Men?
I think only the first kill (just for flavour, not of a player) in A Country for Old Men was a drumstick. As to the pirate ship in a bottle, it could be referring to Captain Blackadder or landlubber, but those both seem a bit too obvious. WIFOM ahoy!
A question for our host: did the mafiosi submit the clues with those phrases bolded, or did you do that yourself and the rest is just flavour?
EDIT: And I just noticed this. Yikes
You may vote for up to THREE different people.
The only thing I could think about is the pirate ship with Captain, but with Blackadder feels "overthought"...
The drumstick and octopus note sounds as a silly clue to me, but meh :D
Another random thought - note is made of the fact that the bottle is 'cracked '= crack (cocaine) = skooma (okay, a little flimsy)? I recall when looking through the game over at CFC that the overt clues for the mafia tended to be irrelevant, whilst the minor, easily overlooked details were the actual clues.
Vote: Skooma Addict
For skooma bottles in elder scrolls, where u can get them at the dirty shack known as Skooma Den...
This is the only I could reasonably link so far...
Forgot to add that the Skooma is illegal, so that explains the pirate inside, as for smuggling or something...
vote: hero di classico because of Seon's reasoning
vote: Skooma Addict because of Arjos'/my reasoning
classical_hero
11-13-2011, 08:33
I think that both clues are false. The clue of the person who killed Monty, was meant to be a frame of Cahoma, since he is now known as Pirate Cahoma over at TWC. So therefore all my three votes are gong to be random. And the third person did not show up. But normally that would mean a true clue is done.
Vote:ATPG
vote:Cecil XIX
vote:landlubber
DaveShack
11-13-2011, 09:09
Does Verarde from CFC play here under a different name?
was meant to be a frame of Cahoma, since he is now known as Pirate Cahoma over at TWC.
What's the point of coming up with a false clue to frame someone, who is getting killed the same night?
FoS: hero di classico
Askthepizzaguy
11-13-2011, 10:19
I think that both clues are false. The clue of the person who killed Monty, was meant to be a frame of Cahoma, since he is now known as Pirate Cahoma over at TWC. So therefore all my three votes are gong to be random. And the third person did not show up. But normally that would mean a true clue is done.
Vote:ATPG
vote:Cecil XIX
vote:landlubber
Vote: Hero di classico
Vote: Cecil XIX
vote: landlubber
Why would anyone pay any attention to the clues this early? This is essentially a vanilla game until you can figure out which clues are true or false.
Random is best. But I'll copy and OMGUS my hero.
Why would anyone pay any attention to the clues this early? This is essentially a vanilla game until you can figure out which clues are true or false.
I work on the assumption that if a clue seems fairly subtle, then it's more likely to be a true clue. Yes, there's a level of WIFOM involved, and yes, you can overthink it, but it's still better then nothing.
Skooma Addict
11-13-2011, 10:54
Too tired to come up with the obligatory silly reasoning. Just random.
Vote: JHT
Vote: Captain Blackadder
Vote: DaveShack
Askthepizzaguy
11-13-2011, 10:59
I work on the assumption that if a clue seems fairly subtle, then it's more likely to be a true clue. Yes, there's a level of WIFOM involved, and yes, you can overthink it, but it's still better then nothing.
Ugh, this reminds me of vanilla games where people tried to analyze the writeups for writing style, then of course people would mask their styles, and people would point fingers based on obviously false data fed to us by the mafia.
Relying on information that comes from the imagination of a liar is unwise to me; ignoring it and voting randomly or based on who seems to be trying to use that "information" to get people lynched would seem more sensible to me.
When you can deduce that some things stated must be lies, and others must be truths, then it becomes usable data. Right now it feels like random gibberish, and that's nothing to base a case off of. Better than nothing? My position is that it is precisely nothing, on round one. On round two, you can at least choose from two likely scenarios; on round one it is meaningless.
That said, i've played 1 or 2 clue games in my mafia career; my approach could be naive but it feels more sensible to me.
Montmorency
11-13-2011, 11:32
Statistically, random lynches work best. I guess that's not as entertaining as Day 1 wagons.
Askthepizzaguy
11-13-2011, 11:40
Statistically, random lynches work best. I guess that's not as entertaining as Day 1 wagons.
The real problem with random lynches is that for the mafia, they aren't random; they'll 'randomly' choose some townie but usually not a mafioso. And townies have trouble rallying around a single correct random vote versus several incorrect random votes. No reasoning, usually no wagoning.
A random bandwagon, if it were truly random, would be unstoppable and devastating to the mafia if it hits them. Otherwise it just wastes time, a life, and gives cover to the scums.
Better might be to pick a few "random" votes and see who is actually willing to follow through with killing their supposed targets. If the mafia are willing to lynch their partner, great. Less scums to have to deal with. If the mafia aren't willing, we get to see who flinches.
Pressure is the best method of scum-catching I've seen, threaten them with death at all times and you can either make them stress out over their chances of survival, or you might provoke them into sparing their partner, or you might cause a correct death by mistake. In that case, random is good because you might catch a scum who is doing a good job looking normal. Random is bad if it has no teeth or it has too many competing randoms.
Montmorency
11-13-2011, 12:10
No, as in full-on random, where each individual votes randomly and some guy is lynched, no other considerations. At least, it works offline.
johnhughthom
11-13-2011, 12:56
The broken drumstick is a reference to the Music Mafia in which he played Phil Collins, a mafioso drummer who murdered people by beating them up with drumsticks. As this is an obscure reference, it is highly likely to be a True Clue.
Octopus, under the sea, drumstick = Ringo Starr? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRu-oEwA0Ec) Can anyone think of a link, there have been Beatles mafia games I believe, were any of the players in this Ringo? Seems too obvious though.
Captain Blackadder
11-13-2011, 13:18
Vote: Skooma
Vote Cecil
Vote Montmorency
I think that to try to determine the answers currently is not going to work we need at least one more days worth of clues since each clue will make it so that certain possibilities are removed. I wouldn't say too loudly who you think are scum since I would be sure that whomever we say will be framed in the next few days.
Montmorency
11-13-2011, 14:08
dont vote Me I AM town NOOOOO!
Montmorency
11-13-2011, 14:09
NO PLEASE I'LL KILL YOU I MEAN LYNCH
As you can see Montmorency broke just like the ship in the bottle. Vote:Montmorency
landlubber
11-13-2011, 16:18
Vote: Hero di classico
Vote: Skooma Addict
I wish I could say that I have more to contribute than piggybacking on the reasoning of others, but the cases against Skooma and classico are the best I've seen so far. I don't think I'll have a third vote, unless some new evidence surfaces.
TheLastDays
11-13-2011, 16:21
WEll, let's go random then.
vote: ATPG
vote: johnhughthom
vote: Cecil XIX
Askthepizzaguy
11-13-2011, 16:27
WEll, let's go random then.
vote: ATPG
vote: johnhughthom
vote: Cecil XIX
You evil person you! I'll murder you in your sleep!
TheLastDays
11-13-2011, 16:28
Because you couldn't do it while I'm awake :tongue:
classical_hero
11-13-2011, 16:29
What's the point of coming up with a false clue to frame someone, who is getting killed the same night?
FoS: hero di classicoBecause they don;'t know each other in these games.
Askthepizzaguy
11-13-2011, 16:35
Because you couldn't do it while I'm awake :tongue:
Technically I can't do it while you're sleeping either.
Sucks being a townie. But I can still frame myself for your death and hope it happens.
Vote: ATPG
There were no clues about you. Why not?
robbiecon
11-13-2011, 18:46
My three votes are somewhat random. The first two are simply for people who haven't been voted for yet, as for DaveShack, he's only enquired whether Verarde played here under a different name.
Vote: Ishmael
Vote: Chaotix
Vote: DaveShack
Askthepizzaguy
11-13-2011, 18:59
Vote: ATPG
There were no clues about you. Why not?
Pizza envy?
A question for our host: did the mafiosi submit the clues with those phrases bolded, or did you do that yourself and the rest is just flavour?
I bolded the phrases.
DaveShack
11-13-2011, 20:36
That question was to try to analyze a clue. Verarde's former name was Drum Student, which would point to the drumsticks. But I don't know all the names of people who play here.
Random is nice, unless you end up with a couple votes that way. On the someone other than me approach I must choose:
Vote: hero di classico
Vote: landlubber
Vote: skooma addict
johnhughthom
11-13-2011, 21:55
Some votes,
Vote: Cecil
Vote: edse
Vote: DaveShack
Vote: SKOOMA addict
Vote: Chaotix
DAY THE FIRST
After a long day of arguing, the townspeople gathered together for a nice, relaxing round of "brutally murder the top three vote-getters".
Tally:
Skooma Addict: 6 (Arjos, Ishmael, Blackadder, landlubber, DaveShack, Seon)
Cecil XIX: 5 (hero di classico, ATPG, Blackadder, TLD, JHT)
hero di classico: 5 (Sprig, Ishmael, ATPG, landlubber, DaveShack)
Askthepizzaguy: 3 (hero di classico, TLD, Chaotix)
landlubber: 3 (hero di classico, ATPG, DaveShack)
DaveShack: 3 (Skooma Addict, robbiecon, JHT)
johnhughthom: 2 (Skooma Addict, TLD)
Chaotix: 2 (robbiecon, Seon)
Captain Blackadder: 1 (Skooma Addict)
Ishmael: 1 (robbiecon)
edse: 1 (JHT)
** two people voted for the deceased Montmorency
Skooma Addict was Mafia!
Cecil XIX was Innocent!
hero di classico was Innocent!
IT IS NOW NIGHT TWO.
PLAYERS
1. johnhughthom
2. Montmorency -- Townie, Killed Night 1
3. landlubber
4. Skooma Addict -- Mafia, Lynched Day 1
5. Ishmael
6. Cecil XIX -- Townie, Lynched Day 1
7. Arjos
8. Askthepizzaguy
9. Cahoma -- Townie, Killed Night 1
10. Captain Blackadder
11. robbiecon
12. hero di classico -- Townie, Lynched Day 1
13. edse
14. Seon
15. Chaotix
16. DaveShack
Skooma, were we correct in our line of reasoning with the clue, or were we right for the wrong reasons?
Askthepizzaguy
11-14-2011, 07:07
Nice, random hit. :beam:
Nice, random hit. :beam:
Random? Pff amateur that's called logic :P
Also Zack, I have another question for you - can you confirm whether the mafia know each others' identities? Classical hero said something about that the other day, and I'd like to be certain about it.
Askthepizzaguy
11-14-2011, 08:16
Random? Pff amateur that's called logic :P
Teach me, master Arjos, or I'll never learn.
Skooma Addict
11-14-2011, 08:56
Skooma, were we correct in our line of reasoning with the clue, or were we right for the wrong reasons?
The best part is, I got lynched from town incorrectly guessing a false clue. I swear, this could only happen to me.
Montmorency
11-14-2011, 10:50
Looking to be a short game.
Captain Blackadder
11-14-2011, 13:47
Well done team randomness continues to show its power.
classical_hero
11-14-2011, 16:37
I told you I was innocent. :tongue:
TheLastDays
11-14-2011, 19:05
I am innocent as well.
Also Zack, I have another question for you - can you confirm whether the mafia know each others' identities? Classical hero said something about that the other day, and I'd like to be certain about it.
The mafia know each other's identities.
THE SECOND NIGHT
Another day, another dollar.*
*"dollar" meaning "dead bodies", of course
Askthepizzaguy's body was found first.
His body was found with a torn piece of Professor Plum's jacket nearby, and Askthepizzaguy let out a soft whisper before he died. "Killed me with a purple lightsaber, he did."
Ishmael was found next.
An icicle was found impaled in his chest, along with the following note:
sunk by the iceberg
IT IS NOW DAY TWO.
You may vote for TWO people.
PLAYERS
1. johnhughthom
2. Montmorency -- Townie, Killed Night 1
3. landlubber
4. Skooma Addict -- Mafia, Lynched Day 1
5. Ishmael -- Townie, Killed Night 2
6. Cecil XIX -- Townie, Lynched Day 1
7. Arjos
8. Askthepizzaguy -- Townie, Killed Night 2
9. Cahoma -- Townie, Killed Night 1
10. Captain Blackadder
11. robbiecon
12. hero di classico -- Townie, Lynched Day 1
13. edse
14. Seon
15. Chaotix
16. DaveShack
On the plus side, I won't be lynched as a townie this game. Progress!
Purple Lightsaber = Chaotix.
Don't know about Plum though.
Professor Plum is Cluedo, isn't it? Anybody known for playing that?
EDIT: And considering this is a clue mafia, hats off to that mafioso for a thematically appropriate kill.
I think it could be a reference to the Clueless Mafia game which ATPG was known to have been planning to host at one point.
ONLY PERSON ON THE LIST OF SURVIVORS WHO EXPRESSED INTEREST TO THAT GAME IS Captain Blackadder.
Captain Blackadder
11-15-2011, 08:39
I suspect that clue might have something to do with the star wars games who had a purple lightsaber?
Askthepizzaguy
11-15-2011, 08:42
Edse and Chaotix.
Askthepizzaguy
11-15-2011, 08:43
I edited the previous post. I remembered the rules which might have prohibited the reasoning I used.
Also, if the entire clue is false, both Chaotix and Edse are innocent, for the record.
I'd place my bet on Chaotix, though.
Why would it be me? Can someone explain this with false and true clues? The clues are split in two parts, is one true and one false or is the entire clue either true or false?
Vote:johnhughthom
Vote:landlubber until I get the clues explained.
Askthepizzaguy
11-15-2011, 14:22
Why would it be me? Can someone explain this with false and true clues? The clues are split in two parts, is one true and one false or is the entire clue either true or false?
I think I'm not allowed to say why it would be you, in my opinion; gotta ask the game host about that.
Chaotix has Skywalker as avatar so the lightsabre refers to him but it's far too easy and a framing attempt. So you suspect that "torn piece of Professor Plum's jacket" is me. I played cluedo a couple of times during the summer, I have no connection to the colour "plum", I study math but is far from a proffesor and my clothes are often torn but you can't know that.
I think I'm not allowed to say why it would be you, in my opinion; gotta ask the game host about that.
Ask!
Vote: landlubber
Vote: DaveShack
The first clue is obviously pointed directly at me with bright purple neon lights. I encourage you all to vote me to death for it.
The second one isn't ringing any bells for me. Icicles make me think of The Thing Mafia, but I wasn't in that and don't know who else was... will check later today. Otherwise, icebergs recall the Titanic to mind... but I don't think that's relevant at all.
DaveShack
11-15-2011, 16:31
The first clue is obviously pointed directly at me with bright purple neon lights. I encourage you all to vote me to death for it.
The second one isn't ringing any bells for me. Icicles make me think of The Thing Mafia, but I wasn't in that and don't know who else was... will check later today. Otherwise, icebergs recall the Titanic to mind... but I don't think that's relevant at all.
Your votes have absolutely no relation to your words. Care to explain the scumminess?
The only games I've played on this site have been Capo IV and The Island, neither of which has relationships to any of the clues.
Random votes until I can figure things out.
This game is odd in that it is only the second day but already half the players are dead. There is little in-thread behavior to go by. Unless I solve the clues, all I can do is random vote or the slightly better "gut feeling" vote. And even then, half of the clues will be false.
Vote: Chaotix
Vote: robbiecon
johnhughthom
11-15-2011, 17:30
Why would it be me? Can someone explain this with false and true clues? The clues are split in two parts, is one true and one false or is the entire clue either true or false?
- Clues can be either true or false, and they must alternate. You choose the veracity of your clue at the onset, and then they must alternate.
Not really clear to me whether this means all clues on one day will be true, then the next day false, or whether one clue will be true, then the next false regardless of which day it is. Any chance of clarification, Zacky baby?
DaveShack
11-15-2011, 19:11
I can answer that one based on previous clue games. For a given mafia, clues alternate. This doesn't mean that all the mafia use true on the same day. But if you know a day 1 clue for one of the mafia is true then the corresponding day 2 clue must be false.
DaveShack
11-15-2011, 19:22
Let's assume the clues with the notes go together, and the clues without notes go together. First the notes...
His corpse wasn't very bloody, but it was covered in bruises. A broken drumstick was found near his body, along with the following note:
octopus... under the sea
An icicle was found impaled in his chest, along with the following note:
sunk by the iceberg
If day 1 is true then we're looking for someone with connection to drums, octopus, or "under the sea".
If day 2 is true then we're looking for someone with connection to icicles or titanic.
Now the ones without notes
His body was covered in bloody gashes. A cracked ship-in-a-bottle, with a miniature-sized pirate ship inside, was found lying near the body.
His body was found with a torn piece of Professor Plum's jacket nearby, and Askthepizzaguy let out a soft whisper before he died. "Killed me with a purple lightsaber, he did."
Day 1 true points to pirates, clearly.
Day 2 true points to the color purple, or a clue-ish game. The color purple may really be lightsaber related but maybe not, the color is the repeated element.
My handicap here is that I don't have anywhere near enough knowledge of prior events to be able to know who the clues go with. I'll need a little help with that part... Searching isn't being very fruitful, way too many false hits. I'll give you all I can on the logic side of things. :bow:
The best part is, I got lynched from town incorrectly guessing a false clue. I swear, this could only happen to me.
Remember this also. The first clue with the ship could be his.
Living players who were in the Thing Mafia:
johnhughthom
Arjos
Blackadder
None of them were mafia, though. Reenk was mafia. This is probably a dead end.
Have there ever been Titanic references in Org mafia games (or in mafia games outside Org, which I would not have known about)? Maybe somebody who killed with ice in a game?
landlubber
11-15-2011, 22:38
Random votes until I can figure things out.
This game is odd in that it is only the second day but already half the players are dead. There is little in-thread behavior to go by. Unless I solve the clues, all I can do is random vote or the slightly better "gut feeling" vote. And even then, half of the clues will be false.
It's a bit odd how your "random votes" just happen to be on me and DaveShack, and both me and him were close (relatively, that is) to being lynched yesterday. This strikes me as perhaps a bit desperate.
Vote:Chaotix.
I'm not sold on the Edse case, and I don't really know enough about any of the past games here to try and formulate any solid cases of my own.
DaveShack
11-16-2011, 01:02
You forgot to bold.
Vote:Chaotix following the previous lightsaber lead. I'll hold off on the other vote to see if there is any progress on the other set of clues. Or any suspicious voting behavior.
Askthepizzaguy
11-16-2011, 01:52
Chaotix is exactly the kind that would point a clue at himself which is "too obvious".
@ATPG: I was just abou to post that myself, ATPG :lol:
Vote: Chaotiscum
johnhughthom
11-16-2011, 02:33
Vote: Chaotix
Vote: edse
landlubber
11-16-2011, 02:46
Vote:Chaotix.
johnhughthom
11-16-2011, 02:56
Octopus, under the sea, drumstick = Ringo Starr? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRu-oEwA0Ec) Can anyone think of a link, there have been Beatles mafia games I believe, were any of the players in this Ringo? Seems too obvious though.
For some reason looking through the list of players, I think I can remember robbiecon talking about the Beatles mafia game, I think it was at CFC, so can't check. I can't actually remember the content or context of the post, but meh.
Unvote: edse
Vote: robbiecon
Meh. You guys want to lynch me, go right ahead. It is what I expected, and it's probably what the person who framed me expected, too.
I barely even read the thread day 1, and now I pop in and half the players are dead already.
Just keep in mind you have to hit mafia today or you're pretty much toast tomorrow, with only five players left and two of them scum.
Askthepizzaguy
11-16-2011, 05:47
Meh. You guys want to lynch me, go right ahead.
YAY!
Askthepizzaguy
11-16-2011, 11:09
I didn't Askthedeadguy.
You probably Killedthedeadguy, though. :wink:
TheLastDays
11-16-2011, 12:31
vote: Chaotix - I'm not impressed with the WIFOMy self hint :tongue:
vote: johnhughthom - it always pays to vote john
Captain Blackadder
11-16-2011, 13:05
I thought of with the icicle reference that there was a game that involved parasites and it had a very large theme with the cold since you could lynch people by sending them out there. However I can't seem to find the game in the references I was wogged that game and I think it was done by TheFlax. It might have something to do with that.
FOr now
Vote: Edse
Vote: Arjos
Sorry I didn't update last night, I was really busy.
Could someone please make a tally? Thanks!
johnhughthom
11-17-2011, 00:17
Since it's you:
Chaotix: 6 (Arjos, DaveShack, Seon, jht, lubber, TLD)
robbie: 2 (Arjos, jht)
jht: 2 (edse, TLD)
lubber: 2 (edse, Chaotix)
edse: 1 (Cpt B)
Arjos: 1 (CptB)
DaveShack: 1 (Chaotix)
EL DIA SEGUNDO
After an extra-long day of arguing, the townspeople gathered together for an intense, murderous round of "brutally murder the top two vote-getters".
Tally:
Chaotix: 6 (Arjos, DaveShack, Seon, jht, lubber, TLD)
jht: 2 (edse, TLD)
robbie: 2 (Arjos, jht)
lubber: 2 (edse, Chaotix)
edse: 1 (Cpt B)
Arjos: 1 (CptB)
DaveShack: 1 (Chaotix)
Chaotix was Mafia!
johnhughthom was Innocent!
IT IS NOW NIGHT TWO.
PLAYERS
1. johnhughthom -- Townie, Lynched Day 2
2. Montmorency -- Townie, Killed Night 1
3. landlubber
4. Skooma Addict -- Mafia, Lynched Day 1
5. Ishmael -- Townie, Killed Night 2
6. Cecil XIX -- Townie, Lynched Day 1
7. Arjos
8. Askthepizzaguy -- Townie, Killed Night 2
9. Cahoma -- Townie, Killed Night 1
10. Captain Blackadder
11. robbiecon
12. hero di classico -- Townie, Lynched Day 1
13. edse
14. Seon
15. Chaotix -- Mafia, Lynched Day 2
16. DaveShack
Since it's you:
Chaotix: 6 (Arjos, DaveShack, Seon, jht, lubber, TLD)
robbie: 2 (Arjos, jht)
jht: 2 (edse, TLD)
lubber: 2 (edse, Chaotix)
edse: 1 (Cpt B)
Arjos: 1 (CptB)
DaveShack: 1 (Chaotix)
:bow:
johnhughthom
11-17-2011, 01:05
:bow:
And thank you for my "reward". :laugh4:
And that's two ^^
Btw edse actually unvoted JHT, but I have no idea about any deadlines :D
Captain Blackadder
11-17-2011, 03:08
So Chaotix were we right in the reasoning for your victory?
Two in 2 days, not bad town!
And that's two ^^
Btw edse actually unvoted JHT, but I have no idea about any deadlines :D
Deadline was considered Post #127.
DaveShack
11-17-2011, 06:29
So Chaotix were we right in the reasoning for your victory?
I hesitate to say this, but...
it's painfully obvious that revealing if the reasoning was right or not could be seriously unbalancing. If we guessed right for the wrong reasons then knowing that makes the 3rd set of clues much easier to interpret.
Edit: let's see if strikethru works here...
Shh, don't tell them DaveShack! :beam:
TheLastDays
11-17-2011, 08:30
I hesitate to say this, but...
it's painfully obvious that revealing if the reasoning was right or not could be seriously unbalancing. If we guessed right for the wrong reasons then knowing that makes the 3rd set of clues much easier to interpret.
Edit: let's see if strikethru works here...
Errr... I think it was clearly stated, that not all Mafia have to follow the same pattern. One could be a true hint on D1, then false, true, false, true, etc. The other could go the exact opposite. Revealing if Chaotix' last hint was true does not say anything about the hints of the remaining Mafia.
Askthepizzaguy
11-17-2011, 08:36
Sorry Chaotix, but you are known to have great big gigantic ones, and unfortunately that leads to them bumping into sharp objects sometimes.
One of the dangers of WIFOM is the poison's in your cup.
The best part of waking up... is poison in your cup!
IT IS NOW NIGHT TWO.
And it's a long one :D
Captain Blackadder
11-22-2011, 06:34
Anyone know what is going on?
Askthepizzaguy
11-22-2011, 08:29
Host might be having internet issues at this point. No idea.
If the game doesn't advance and I don't hear from the game host soon I might lock the thread and tell the next host they can go.
landlubber
11-23-2011, 00:29
If this game resumes, I'm going to be without internet from Wednesday to Saturday.
Askthepizzaguy
11-26-2011, 01:03
Zack you were here today, and didn't post anything about the delay.
Unless the game advances, this thread will be locked in 24 hours and the next game will be hosted.
Askthepizzaguy
11-27-2011, 08:23
Sorry. Contact me if this game can continue.
Askthepizzaguy
12-11-2011, 23:26
Game continues.
Zack, you have 24 hours to inform everyone the game continues, and 24 for the next phase. Let's finish this in a quick and efficient manner.
First, an explanation:
Fatigue, both from real life and from mafia. Simply put, I needed a break from mafia, and I just happened to be hosting a game.
Sorry to all. The game should end fairly quickly.
johnhughthom
12-11-2011, 23:33
We've all been there buddy.
Welcome back Zack and I hope well rested, if not have a pint :D
THE THIRD, EXTREMELY LENGTHY NIGHT
And Zack said, "Let there be update!"
And the players saw the update and said, "It is mediocre (at best)."
Captain Blackadder's corpse was the lone dead body found.
His body had been branded, cow-style, with the following words:
Kill The Queen, Save Rasputin
IT IS NOW DAY THREE.
You may vote for ONE person.
PLAYERS
1. johnhughthom -- Townie, Lynched Day 2
2. Montmorency -- Townie, Killed Night 1
3. landlubber
4. Skooma Addict -- Mafia, Lynched Day 1
5. Ishmael -- Townie, Killed Night 2
6. Cecil XIX -- Townie, Lynched Day 1
7. Arjos
8. Askthepizzaguy -- Townie, Killed Night 2
9. Cahoma -- Townie, Killed Night 1
10. Captain Blackadder -- Townie, Killed Night 3
11. robbiecon
12. hero di classico -- Townie, Lynched Day 1
13. edse
14. Seon
15. Chaotix -- Mafia, Lynched Day 2
16. DaveShack
Due to the circumstances, Day 3 will be 24 hours if everyone has voted, and 48 hours if not.
johnhughthom
12-11-2011, 23:39
classical hero had a Queen avatar at CFC once upon a time I do believe. But he's dead.
Montmorency
12-11-2011, 23:47
Robbiecon = Robespierre? :shrug:
Could it be about the Boney M song? Anyone a fan of 70s disco music? XD
I am, but I didn't kill him. I would say that it point to Russia, but I don't know...
DaveShack
12-12-2011, 17:46
Robbiecon = Robespierre? :shrug:
Rasputin was in Russia, Robespierre in France. Also Robespierre wouldn't say "Save the Queen". Though it's hard to say if that would make it a bad frame or a really bad true clue.
The clue could be the "branded, cow-style" part.
NIGHT THE FIRST
They went to Cahoma's house first.
His corpse wasn't very bloody, but it was covered in bruises. A broken drumstick was found near his body, along with the following note:
octopus... under the sea
THE SECOND NIGHT
Ishmael was found next.
An icicle was found impaled in his chest, along with the following note:
sunk by the iceberg
THE THIRD, EXTREMELY LENGTHY NIGHT
Captain Blackadder's corpse was the lone dead body found.
His body had been branded, cow-style, with the following words:
Kill The Queen, Save Rasputin
It should be the same person for these three kills.
Yet, two must be false clues or two must be true...
Montmorency
12-12-2011, 21:30
Right, so figure out whether the two dead scum had the true clues. For now:
Rasputin was in Russia, Robespierre in France. Also Robespierre wouldn't say "Save the Queen". Though it's hard to say if that would make it a bad frame or a really bad true clue.
The clue is "Kill the Queen, save Rasputin". So, maybe something Robespierre might advocate, and Robbiecon = Robespierre.
:shrug:
I'll Vote: edse for now...
He never voted any lynched mafia...
Same goes for Vote: Robbiecon
jht was my only vote that got lynched and I tried to unvote him so Robbie or landlubber was lynched instead.
Glad you brought this up Arjos. I guess we can say that Arjos, DaveShack, Seon and landlubber are townies as they have voted for mafia at least two times. If you stay together and vote for the same person you will win.
robbiecon is my 2nd suspect, I just picked you as he voted for Chaotix once, but meh XD
DaveShack
12-13-2011, 07:20
Right, so figure out whether the two dead scum had the true clues. For now:
The clue is "Kill the Queen, save Rasputin". So, maybe something Robespierre might advocate, and Robbiecon = Robespierre.
:shrug:
:study:
Umm, wow I sure misremembered that one. All that web browsing based on a reversed meaning :wall: That means it could indeed be Robbiecon. And it would be either a mediocre true clue or a good frame.
Montmorency
12-13-2011, 08:02
Glad you brought this up Arjos. I guess we can say that Arjos, DaveShack, Seon and landlubber are townies as they have voted for mafia at least two times. If you stay together and vote for the same person you will win.
So it has to be either robbie or edse. And you have 2 lynches, so you will win even if the one you pick is town.
DaveShack
12-13-2011, 16:21
Vote: edse
Robbiecon hasn't been on since 12/7 and the update was posted 12/11.
The last day ended 17/11 so he had a lot of time.
I also has a very nice defense speak.
At night two, ATPG was found dead. This is the police report from that night.
THE SECOND NIGHT
Askthepizzaguy's body was found first.
His body was found with a torn piece of Professor Plum's jacket nearby, and Askthepizzaguy let out a soft whisper before he died. "Killed me with a purple lightsaber, he did."
The killer was found the next day, it was Chaotix and the lightsabre was his clue. Thus must the "torn piece of Professor Plum's jacket" be a false clue that is s pointing at someone else. This person would hardly be a mafia as Chaotix didn't want to risk a companions life. ATPG's first taught was me, and I now understand why. Mark Knopfler's jacket in my sig has a purple tone, I wouldn't call it plum but it's close enough. So this clue was most likely pointed at me.
So, to spare my life and to be kind to Zack, vote for Robbiecon.
johnhughthom
12-13-2011, 17:51
Couldn't robbie have sent in a clue during the time Zack was suffering mafia overload?
Yes, the order to kill Cpt. B, could've been sent a month ago...
EL DIA TERCERO
After an extra-long day of arguing, the townspeople gathered together for an intense, murderous round of "brutally murder the top vote-getter".
Tally:
edse: 2 (Arjos, DaveShack)
robbiecon: 1 (edse)
edse was Innocent!
IT IS NOW NIGHT FOUR.
PLAYERS
1. johnhughthom -- Townie, Lynched Day 2
2. Montmorency -- Townie, Killed Night 1
3. landlubber
4. Skooma Addict -- Mafia, Lynched Day 1
5. Ishmael -- Townie, Killed Night 2
6. Cecil XIX -- Townie, Lynched Day 1
7. Arjos
8. Askthepizzaguy -- Townie, Killed Night 2
9. Cahoma -- Townie, Killed Night 1
10. Captain Blackadder -- Townie, Killed Night 3
11. robbiecon
12. hero di classico -- Townie, Lynched Day 1
13. edse -- Townie, Lynched Day 3
14. Seon
15. Chaotix -- Mafia, Lynched Day 2
16. DaveShack
THE FOURTH NIGHT
No one died that night.
"Listen here, listen to this clue
You know it to be true!"
The last killer hails from a foreign land!
("foreign" as in not the US)
IT IS NOW DAY THREE.
You may vote for ONE person.
PLAYERS
1. johnhughthom -- Townie, Lynched Day 2
2. Montmorency -- Townie, Killed Night 1
3. landlubber
4. Skooma Addict -- Mafia, Lynched Day 1
5. Ishmael -- Townie, Killed Night 2
6. Cecil XIX -- Townie, Lynched Day 1
7. Arjos
8. Askthepizzaguy -- Townie, Killed Night 2
9. Cahoma -- Townie, Killed Night 1
10. Captain Blackadder -- Townie, Killed Night 3
11. robbiecon
12. hero di classico -- Townie, Lynched Day 1
13. edse
14. Seon
15. Chaotix -- Mafia, Lynched Day 2
16. DaveShack
Well moving to the second target, who hasn't been online, apparently not even to order a kill (:P): Vote: robbiecon
Askthepizzaguy
12-18-2011, 22:52
You should be able to determine which of this set of clues is true and false by now.
Solve it and remove a suspect from inclusion.
Montmorency
12-18-2011, 23:55
Apparently, everyone but robbiecon has voted for scum twice.
Is that not proof enough?
landlubber
12-19-2011, 00:09
Vote: Robbiecon.
Need I say more?
Askthepizzaguy
12-19-2011, 00:13
Apparently, everyone but robbiecon has voted for scum twice.
Is that not proof enough?
No, not really. Bussing is especially effective in these situations because when a scum is going to die, you get credit for also voting them. Now, ducking a late game lynch could be game-winning.
Solve the clues, remove a suspect. Maybe it is robbiecon, ok? But what if you can prove that it is not him? Then you get two blind shots that have a chance of winning instead of only one.
Askthepizzaguy
12-19-2011, 00:28
Also, Chaotix was mafia. You gotta know he encouraged his mates to bus him, because it works.
Play the man, and the man is a cunning man. Chaotix doesn't play it safe or timid.
And Chaotix was exactly the only mafia voted by robbiecon...
Montmorency
12-19-2011, 00:37
Also, Chaotix was mafia. You gotta know he encouraged his mates to bus him, because it works.
Play the man, and the man is a cunning man. Chaotix doesn't play it safe or timid.
Remember when you had yourself night-killed to clear your scum-buddies?
You should be able to determine which of this set of clues is true and false by now.
Solve it and remove a suspect from inclusion.
Since there was no kill order, (as per the rules) the most recent clue was a true clue. It might not necessarily line up with the true/false alternation of the preceding clues.
DaveShack
12-19-2011, 19:54
OK, information gathering mode...
From CFC, robbiecon claims to be from Ireland. Notice the Interests field in the profile.
About robbiecon
Location
Longford,Ireland
Interests
Beatles!
Occupation
Computer Engineering student
CFC and org profile for landlubber is inconclusive, but IP lookup shows a US address.
Likewise for Seon, profile location info is inconclusive but IP lookup shows a US address.
No CFC info for Arjos.
For completeness, I'm from the US and you can find me as such on multiple websites.
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There are two clear suspects in 5 players, the others can be discounted. If we lynch wrong (yet choosing one of Arjos or robbiecon) and there is a kill, we go into a last day with 3 players and at most one of the remaining players is a suspect according to this clue. Even if you only take obvious information into account, robbiecon is the only one who actively lists a non-US location, and an extensive search might turn up other evidence of location for all remaining players.
I think the Beatles! info also makes it likely in light of the 1st clue: vote: robbiecon
landlubber
12-19-2011, 22:28
I am indeed from the US; a lot of people know that my twin brother is civplayah, and his profile has that location listed IIRC.
Askthepizzaguy
12-20-2011, 04:56
Well, this is going to be a lame ending. Vote Robbiecon it is.
robbiecon was the last mafia. Game over.
Well, this is going to be a lame ending.
Fitting; this was a lame game. My apologies to all. :bow:
Not at all Zack, it was good fun whilst I was alive and was a refreshing change from traditional mafia (I actually caught a mafioso this time! I feel so proud).
Montmorency
12-22-2011, 03:24
I like this sort of expedited Mafia setup because town invariably wins. :beam:
The only flaw to this game was it's gratuitous extension.
Askthepizzaguy
12-23-2011, 09:14
Hey Zack, believe it or not I had fun trying to guess who was mafia here.
The WIFOM game with the true/false clues is fun.
Thank you for hosting the game, sorry robbie went inactive.
I don't blame robbiecon, it's totally understandable that he was inactive when the game was revived.
The problem wasn't the game concept, it was that I was a poor host, taking a huge hiatus in the middle of the game.
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