Forum Bug Reporting

[TinCow]

Apologies, I asked for people to report forum bugs in the downtime thread, forgetting that members cannot post in there. Please report issues that have arisen as a result of the most recent upgrade in this thread. There were several significant changes in how vbulletin handles styles, so there may be some issues with our custom styles.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Found a way to circumvent the issue of the forum insisting on sending me the default skin regardless of what I select on my Settings page in Opera 12. It involves altering the site specific browser settings of forums.totalwar.org: I needed to change how the browser identifies itself, I went with “Mask as Firefox”.

[TinCow]

Found a way to circumvent the issue of the forum insisting on sending me the default skin regardless of what I select on my Settings page in Opera 12. It involves altering the site specific browser settings of forums.totalwar.org: I needed to change how the browser identifies itself, I went with “Mask as Firefox”.

Sounds like an Opera-specific issue then, but I'll do some research and see if I can find what is causing it. Others are bound to be experiencing it as well.

[Husar]

I use Opera 11.52 and haven't found any issues with selecting skins in it so far. :shrug:

[Tellos Athenaios]

Sounds like an Opera-specific issue then, but I'll do some research and see if I can find what is causing it. Others are bound to be experiencing it as well.

It isn't Opera's JavaScript environment which suddenly behaves any different if you toggle the switch. (It doesn't suddenly gain full Firefox compatibility or drop Opera features.) The only software which does behave differently now is the VBulletin code -- implying it relies on browser sniffing to select different code paths...

Therefore that looks to me more like hacks in the forum code failing to work ...

[TinCow]

Tellos, can you clarify whether you were experiencing this problem on a mobile or desktop device? We've found similar issues with style selection which seem to be related to the upgrade, but so far every other example we've experienced or found comments about is related to a mobile device, not a desktop device.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Opera 12 on a laptop.

[Husar]

Well, isn't 12 only in alpha status?
Could that have anything to do with it?

I'm using 11.60 now and the STW2 skin, no forcing of anything, my browser identifies as Opera as well. :shrug:

If it's something about identifying as Opera in general then it should force the dafault skin on me as well, changing to TheGuild works just fine for me, too.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Well, isn't 12 only in alpha status?
Could that have anything to do with it? Uh, how? If I trick the forum into believing I am some Mozilla Firefox user it works. If I declare myself an Opera 12 user, it balks. This suggest something to do with changes in browser sniffing/version checking, as did work before the forum upgrade!

By the way, this is the string the browser would ordinarily supply to identify itself:

Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux x86_64; U; Edition Next; en) Presto/2.10.238 Version/12.00

EDIT: Just found out that I can trick the forum by identifying as Mozilla Firefox (which still leaves a reference to Opera in the string) as well.

[Husar]

If it were buggy for every Opera user, then I should have skins forced on me as well though.

Or are you saying I'm special?

[Tellos Athenaios]

If it were buggy for every Opera user, then I should have skins forced on me as well though. No I am thinking that between Opera 11 and Opera 12 the way the browser identifies itself by default changed. However, the point is that any well-behaved website should not break on such a change.

A forum analogy: it is like Beskar changing his name to Tiaexz (have I spelt that correctly?): a well-behaved forum would not suddenly stop displaying PMs sent to the former “Beskar” when “Tiaexz” looks at his inbox.


Or are you saying I'm special?

I should've seen that one coming, shouldn't I? How about... in your very own special way, you are?

[Tellos Athenaios]

Thanks to therother for fixing it for me. Now the forum works again properly with Opera 12; or at least as far as I know/have tested, it does! :2thumbsup:

[Husar]

No I am thinking that between Opera 11 and Opera 12 the way the browser identifies itself by default changed. However, the point is that any well-behaved website should not break on such a change.

Yes, that's what I meant, but since I don't know the details of how it's done, I thought the identification might be buggy in some way.


A forum analogy: it is like Beskar changing his name to Tiaexz (have I spelt that correctly?): a well-behaved forum would not suddenly stop displaying PMs sent to the former “Beskar” when “Tiaexz” looks at his inbox.

Huh? No, I mean yes, there's a difference though in that your Opera doesn't have an account on the server and its identification is not handled in a database, then again I have no idea how that identification stuff works, I just suppose it's useful for server-side browser optimizations. In that case you may be right that these optimizations should never switch to "forum is broken and things don't work".


I should've seen that one coming, shouldn't I? How about... in your very own special way, you are?

If you had simply ignored it, I would feel better now... :confused:

[TinCow]

However, the point is that any well-behaved website should not break on such a change.

A forum analogy: it is like Beskar changing his name to Tiaexz (have I spelt that correctly?): a well-behaved forum would not suddenly stop displaying PMs sent to the former “Beskar” when “Tiaexz” looks at his inbox.

To be clear, this bug had nothing to do with the Org itself. It was caused by changes in vBulletin code, not any mods or hacks we installed.

[Tellos Athenaios]

To be clear, this bug had nothing to do with the Org itself. It was caused by changes in vBulletin code, not any mods or hacks we installed.
Good to know. OTOH it doesn't do much for my opinion of the VBulletin code itself. A look at how it's JavaScript code prepares passwords before hashing them should suffice. Though since it would be unfair to let you risk you sanity without warning, I've got to say: that code is not for the faint of heart.

[Veho Nex]

Apologies, I asked for people to report forum bugs in the downtime thread, forgetting that members cannot post in there. Please report issues that have arisen as a result of the most recent upgrade in this thread. There were several significant changes in how vbulletin handles styles, so there may be some issues with our custom styles.

If I report a bug and it gets fixed can I have the bug report thread named after me?

[drone]

When I select the embed video button in the Quick Reply editor, it pops up the window and I add the YouTube link. If I then hit "Go Advanced", it goes to a white screen, then the usual advanced editor, but with the following text at the top of the page:

Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in [path]/includes/class_bbcode.php(432) : eval()'d code on line 1

It doesn't affect the post at all, but it's a weird artifact.

Firefox v3.6.24

[TinCow]

When I select the embed video button in the Quick Reply editor, it pops up the window and I add the YouTube link. If I then hit "Go Advanced", it goes to a white screen, then the usual advanced editor, but with the following text at the top of the page:

Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in [path]/includes/class_bbcode.php(432) : eval()'d code on line 1

It doesn't affect the post at all, but it's a weird artifact.

Firefox v3.6.24

Thanks for finding this. The problem was caused by a conflict with a bbcode module we were running. I have disabled the module and the error no longer occurs. I'm not sure whether this will impact some of our custom bbcode though, so please let me know if you see any of it behaving abnormally.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

When I edit my post and then choose "Go Advanced" option my post becomes total mess. What ever formatting I had before will be nullified.

[TinCow]

When I edit my post and then choose "Go Advanced" option my post becomes total mess. What ever formatting I had before will be nullified.

I can confirm this bug. It is a vBulletin issue which has been patched in the next release. I have no idea when that will come out though, so I will try and find a way to fix it manually before then.

[TinCow]

When I edit my post and then choose "Go Advanced" option my post becomes total mess. What ever formatting I had before will be nullified.

This bug has been fixed.

[drone]

Maybe it's just my setup, but the favicon is now the default vBulletin icon.

[therother]

Yeah, there's always something you forget after an upgrade. If it doesn't update itself, click on this link (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/favicon.ico) and press refresh.

[drone]

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