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Ibn-Khaldun
03-03-2012, 20:11
Nightbringer - I'm here. Plotting. Saving some money. ~:)
I really liked those Council sessions from previous games. Perhaps we could have one of these from time to time? Not once in 10 turns or so but when something big happens in the game. I think this allows us having more IC talk between our characters.
Also, I was thinking that perhaps anyone is interested in a Tournament like we had in the KotF game? We could ask TinCow or GeneralHankerchief to host one for old time sake.
Mithridate
03-03-2012, 20:30
Nightbringer - I'm here. Plotting. Saving some money. ~:)
Ooo, include me in ur plans! Pretty please :P
Remember my loaning service, ive got quite a bit of gold to spare
Also, I was thinking that perhaps anyone is interested in a Tournament like we had in the KotF game? We could ask TinCow or GeneralHankerchief to host one for old time sake.
Checking up about the KotF game, having a Tournament sounds sweet :)
Regarding a Council session, holding one as soon as Bokony can reach the capitol would work as we need to make plans on how to deal with the ERE. PM Cecil perhaps?
If not he shall march East to Baia and rebuild
Nightbringer
03-03-2012, 21:55
Oops, sorry zim, I forgot about your computer.
I like the idea of doing the council sessions, what would people think of doing one after turn 10? Not to be doing them every 10 turns, but just to get the idea started. After that,they would come up at times of particular importance.
Also, i will be taking the save later today, so if you want to get your turn in move fast! :)
We could ask @TinCow (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=6193) or @GeneralHankerchief (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=16104) to host one for old time sake.
How many players would be participating?
Ibn-Khaldun
03-04-2012, 16:49
Well, that is something we are trying to figure out.
Cecil XIX, phonicsmonkey, Zim, Mithridate and myself are confirmed players.
House Stark and Ignoramus are being MIA. Hopefully they are still playing.
Quirl decided to leave unfortunately. I do hope he could just stay in the game for RP whether or not he can actually take the saves or not.
So, basically we don't have that many players. I do hope this will change in near future.
That's small enough that I think I could manage it, using the existing rules from the KotF tournament. Just let me know when to start it and get me the necessary trait, etc. info on all the participants, as I don't have the game installed, so can't view a save.
Nightbringer
03-04-2012, 23:31
what is this tournament thing anyway?
Ibn-Khaldun
03-04-2012, 23:45
In "King of the Franks" we had a tournament held at the start of the game.
Here are 2 threads about it: Tournament game thread (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?119837-Tournament-%281080%29) and its Rules (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?119054-Tournament-rules-brainstorming-thread).
Nightbringer
03-04-2012, 23:56
That looks awesome, I would really appreciate it if you wanted to run one tincow!
From personal experience I think it's a fair bet Ignoramus will be back around. I'd really like to participate in a tournament.
Installing MTW2 now. Had a bit of a scare when I had the discs but didn't know where the box was for the CD Key but it's been located.
Edit: False hope. I had two disc #1s. :clown:
Well, that is something we are trying to figure out.
Cecil XIX, phonicsmonkey, Zim, Mithridate and myself are confirmed players.
House Stark and Ignoramus are being MIA. Hopefully they are still playing.
Quirl decided to leave unfortunately. I do hope he could just stay in the game for RP whether or not he can actually take the saves or not.
So, basically we don't have that many players. I do hope this will change in near future.
Nightbringer
03-05-2012, 06:33
From personal experience I think it's a fair bet Ignoramus will be back around. I'd really like to participate in a tournament.
Installing MTW2 now. Had a bit of a scare when I had the discs but didn't know where the box was for the CD Key but it's been located.
Edit: False hope. I had two disc #1s. :clown:
ah yes, two disk #1's. I myself have three copies of the game. Hopefully you find it!
No luck, and none of the stores nearby have it. Biting the bullet and trying out a Steam version.
Ibn-Khaldun
03-05-2012, 23:30
In Steam M2TW costs 9,99€ but in Gamersgate you get M2TW Gold for the same price. That is Vanilla game and Kingdoms together.
Bought Gold on steam for $9.99. It's downloading now.
If it weren't too late I might have gone for gamersgate, though. I think it might be easier to get mods working on a game downloaded from them...
Ibn-Khaldun
03-06-2012, 00:38
For the past year or so I have never had any problems with games from gamersgate. All mods etc work just fine. But I've heard that Steam is not so kind towards mods and stuff..
Mithridate
03-06-2012, 00:40
Why not just do something which is against the Org rules to even discuss?
Instead of abiding by the Org rules :) Zim
phonicsmonkey
03-06-2012, 01:27
Why not just do something which is against the Org rules to even discuss?
Instead of abiding by the Org rules :) Zim
Fixed that for you Mithridate, please play by the forum rules.
GeneralHankerchief
03-06-2012, 09:57
I have all of next week off, so if TinCow needs it, then I could step into my old backup role. :yes:
Anything beyond that is dicey though.
Ignoramus
03-06-2012, 10:38
Hello guys,
Sorry for my inactivity - had a busy first week at uni. Getting back into the swing of things now.
Nightbringer
03-06-2012, 19:59
Hello guys,
Sorry for my inactivity - had a busy first week at uni. Getting back into the swing of things now.
Thats okay iggy, glad to have you back!
Ibn-Khaldun
03-06-2012, 23:32
I was thinking about the Tournament. I suggest that all participants would make a payment (300 or something like that) and all that money will be divided between the winner(75% of the entry fee) and the second place(25%).
phonicsmonkey
03-06-2012, 23:53
I was thinking about the Tournament. I suggest that all participants would make a payment (300 or something like that) and all that money will be divided between the winner(75% of the entry fee) and the second place(25%).
Make the suggestion IC and we can have more fun talking about it there
Nightbringer
03-11-2012, 00:34
What do people think of pausing the game for a week or so for people to discuss action, and participate in the tournament?
Mithridate
03-11-2012, 01:41
Big negative :)
Ibn-Khaldun
03-11-2012, 01:51
I think that is a good idea.
Either phonics or Cecil could call the nobles together. This would be a very good time for a tournament. Since there are not taht many of us then I don't think it will take that long to process the turns in the tournament.
So, I propose that all participants will play 300f entry fee and turns will last 24 hours. The winner would get 75% of that money and 25% will go to the second place. Sounds good?
Nightbringer
03-11-2012, 02:18
Exactly, hopefully the tournament will go by quickly and you guys can also figure out some direction for what you are doing next. It will also be a fun opportunity to develop characters a bit more I think.
If
Also, if anyone knows anyone that might be interested, please invite them over. house stark seems gone for sure, iggy has been ridiculously busy so he hasn't been active, and Zim and Quirl have non-working games.
TinCow or GeneralHankerchief, what info would you need for the tournament exactly?
A list of characters to be involved, full stats (with V&V) for each character, and whether it's a team event or a free-for-all.
Nightbringer
03-11-2012, 05:18
A list of characters to be involved, full stats (with V&V) for each character, and whether it's a team event or a free-for-all.
V&V? I'm not sure what you mean. I think given the small number of players, we should probably stick to a free for all, but if others would prefer team it is up to the players.
Mithridate,
I don't want to force this if you are really really against it, but I am hoping that during this event we might be able to either reclaim, or recruit, a couple players, making things more active when we finish. I think it will also be a great opportunity for the characters you guys have been developing to interact a bit!
Mithridate
03-11-2012, 07:10
Mithridate,
I don't want to force this if you are really really against it, but I am hoping that during this event we might be able to either reclaim, or recruit, a couple players, making things more active when we finish. I think it will also be a great opportunity for the characters you guys have been developing to interact a bit!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgmDSb1-2wQ
I think i can live with it :)
GeneralHankerchief
03-11-2012, 07:51
V&V? I'm not sure what you mean. I think given the small number of players, we should probably stick to a free for all, but if others would prefer team it is up to the players
Vices and virtues, probably. The characters' traits in addition to their raw command, chiv/dread, piety, etc. ratings.
Nightbringer
03-11-2012, 08:26
Vices and virtues, probably. The characters' traits in addition to their raw command, chiv/dread, piety, etc. ratings.
Ah that makes sense, I will collect this info tonight. If any players wish to collect there own and send it to me, they are free to, but I am fine doing it.
I'm in favor of the pause, but only for the completely selfish reasons that I'm out of town this weekend and it would give me time to let me get MTW2 working again. :clown:
Nightbringer
03-13-2012, 01:28
I also have a selfish reason (its finals week), so you aren't alone there Zim :)
Nightbringer
03-13-2012, 01:59
here are the stat's etc.. for everyone
C = command
D = dread (negative = chivalry)
l = leadership
a = authority
p = piety
Kerecse a Geregye nembol
C 2
D 1
L 6
P 3
traits:
relatively healthy
military minded
basic military education
promising commander
budding bureaucrat
generalyl loyal
seethes with anger
Junior King Bokeny
C 2
D 3
L 6
P 3
Traits:
Healthy
biological Son
Administratively minded
gregarious
virile
promising commander
heri apparent
marital ties
can tell a tale
disrespects prisoners
feels appreciated
dislikes the byzantines
Retinue:
Duke of Zagreb
Military Engineer
Dread Knight
King Pozsony
C 4
D 0
A 10
P 3
Traits:
healthy
biological son
administratively minded
legacy of chivalry
good with taxes
sharp
naturally robust
fertile
understands logistics
advanced military education
counter-spy
founner of a royal house
faction leader
brave
night fighter
passive ruler
marital ties
unproven commander
grim commander
fair fighter
cruel leader
Retinue:
Fine armor
drillmaster
stablemaster
master archer
siege engineer
duke of varadmilitary engineer
Andras a zah nembol
C 0
D -3
L 9
P 6
Traits:
relatively healthy
administratively minded
very loyal
religiously active
feels appreciated
reserved
Retinue:
duke of sofia
guard dog
Bokeny a handolh nembol
C 1
D 1
L 6
P 5
Traits:
relatively health
militarily minded
scholar
promising commander
generalyl loyal
dutifully religious
brave
marks of war
Kuppany a Kan nembol
C 2
D -1
L 5
P 5
traits:
relatively health
militarily minded
aspiring commander
marks of war
fair fighter
mixed loyalties
dutifully religious
royal ties
wife is undesirable
retinue:
stablemaster
Demeter az Aba nembol
C 4
D 2
L 10
P 4
traits:
relatively health
militarily minded
standard military education
aspiring commander
dauntless
religious
king's right hand
feels respected
lacks compassion
despises cuman ways
retinue:
master of horse
master archer
siege engineer
military engineer
guard dog
duke of kassa
drillmaster
Petur az akus nembol
C 2
D -1
L 8
P 3
Traits:
relatively health
militarily minded
basic military education
scholar
dudding bureaucrat
sharp
promising commander
very loyal
winning first
Bokony a huntpaznan nembol
C 0
D 2
L 8
P 5
traits:
relatively health
administratively minded
basic western education
winning first
has the king's eye
not constructive
disrespects prisoners
feels appreciated
basic militayr education
personal loss
renowned victor
brave
marks of war
fair in rule
Retinue:
lord high chancellor
duke of brasov
military engineer
mercenary captain
the privy seal
Vata a kacsics nembol
C 1
D 1
L 9
P 4
traits:
militarily minded
religious
has the kings ete
reknowned victor
marks of war
mean leader
feels appreciated
great speaker
unhealthy
disrespects prisoners
retinue:
lord high marshall
military engineer
emir of targoviste
Nightbringer
03-13-2012, 03:32
So who all wants to be int he tournament?
I suggest whoever is hosting ti come up with and send out an invitation, although if they want I can try to do this myself.
phonicsmonkey
03-13-2012, 06:22
I'm in. Want me to have my character send an invite?
Nightbringer
03-13-2012, 06:41
I'm in. Want me to have my character send an invite?
I'm in. Want me to have my character send an invite?
I'm in. Want me to have my character send an invite?
yes, yes, and no
oh wait, yes to the last one as welll :)
Ibn-Khaldun
03-13-2012, 22:16
So who all wants to be int he tournament?
I suggest whoever is hosting ti come up with and send out an invitation, although if they want I can try to do this myself.
I suggest that tournament thread should be created. It should be an IC thread. Also, TinCow asked whether it was a team or individual event. I think it should be individual. There are too few of us to make it into a team event.
Also, I personally hope it starts soon because I'm going to Stockholm this weekend and can't into internet then.
here are the stat's etc.. for everyone
Thanks. Are all of those characters going to be participating?
FYI, I will be out of the country from April 3rd to April 19th. I also highly doubt I will have time on April 1st or 2nd due to the usual chores required prior to a long trip. So, unless you're willing to wait until I get back in late April, I'm only available to run this for the next two weeks.
Hey everyone, I'll be mostly out for day or so and then gone completely until Next Monday night.
If I haven't missed too much in that time I'd like to participate in the tournament when I get back.
Nightbringer
03-14-2012, 18:13
Thanks. Are all of those characters going to be participating?
FYI, I will be out of the country from April 3rd to April 19th. I also highly doubt I will have time on April 1st or 2nd due to the usual chores required prior to a long trip. So, unless you're willing to wait until I get back in late April, I'm only available to run this for the next two weeks.
I think we should definitely try to get it finished before april.
I believe the participants will be:
Kerecse a Geregye nembol (The King)
Junior King Bokeny (phonicsmonkey)
King Pozsony (cecil XIX)
Andras a zah nembol (Ignoramus)???
Petur az akus nembol (Quirl)???
Bokony a huntpaznan nembol (Mithridate)
Demeter az Aba nembol (Zim)
also, Sam, the squire of Ludolf, a Sicilian, will be participating if given permission.
I will send you the stats for him if he is given that.
I also greatly encourage everyone to come up with designs for your heraldry, gear, retinue, etc... for the tournament. Having those descriptive details will be great. If you would like to write up some stories, your entrance, things you do outside of events, etc... that would be awesome as well!
I'm Demeter, actually, unless I lost my character since not being able to play him the last few turns... If I haven't, I wouldn't mind taking a new character if Demeter and his castle were better suited to someone who currently has a copy of the game.
Nightbringer
03-14-2012, 18:19
I'm Demeter, actually, unless I lost my character since not being able to play him the last few turns... If I haven't, I wouldn't mind taking a new character if Demeter and his castle were better suited to someone who currently has a copy of the game.
oops, I knew that... :)
Honestly, I really did, I just wasn't paying attention.
The only result of your game problems has been that he has been sulking in Kassa.
Not as bad as Andras though, he is a total hermit now.
Sitting in a little fort with his bodyguard fro a couple years now.
Sulking and cheating his taxes by not reporting recent recruitment. :clown:
First thing I'll have to do when I get MTW2 up and running is backtrack a turn or two and double check income and expenditures for the last few turns... :sweatdrop:
Can someone please provide me with the bodyguard valor for each of the participants? I would also like screenshots of all the avatar heads, so that I can place them on the combat grid. As the tournament appears to be best as a free-for-all, the initial setup will be with the participants arranged in a ring around the outside of a circular combat grid and as evenly spaced as possible.
There has been a question about whether other events, like jousting and archery, could be included. I would be happy to run such events, but I do not have time to create rules for them. Unless someone else can draw up rules for those contests, the tournament will be a melee only.
Mithridate
03-14-2012, 19:39
Ill fix my two participants, want both Bokony and Hahold to participate
Nightbringer
03-14-2012, 20:03
v = valor
Kerecse a Geregye nembol v = 0
http://s17.postimage.org/8p67jy1fv/kerecse.png?noCache=1331753431
Junior King Bokeny v = 2
http://s17.postimage.org/6jbwpfxzf/junior_king.png?noCache=1331753431
King Pozsony v = 3
http://postimage.org/templates/images/rotate_ccw.png
Andras a zah nembol v = 1
http://s17.postimage.org/b049o4c7f/andras.png?noCache=1331753431
Petur az akus nembol v = 0
http://s17.postimage.org/6n5q5p3gr/petur.png?noCache=1331753431
Bokony a huntpaznan nembol v = 5
http://s17.postimage.org/jkxlfamdn/bokony_a_hutnpaznan.png?noCache=1331753431
Demeter az Aba nembol v = 4
http://s17.postimage.org/btgvgqi8b/demeter.png?noCache=1331753431
Bokeny a handolh nembol v = 0
http://s17.postimage.org/wnt7ykcln/bokeny_a_handolhd.png?noCache=1331753431
Ibn-Khaldun
03-14-2012, 20:50
Gah! I think Kerecse should fight a bit more battles than he have done so far... valor is 0? Or he should just sit in some fort for some time and do nothing like some other characters have done so far. ~:clown:
Nightbringer - Can we use the Tournament threadfor IC conversations?
Nightbringer
03-14-2012, 21:11
absolutely! I encourage it!
If this is going to run before I leave in April, we need to get a solid schedule going. Does anyone have any issues if the tournament begins on Monday with 24 hour rounds? Please be aware that if we start this before my trip and it continues into April for any reason, I will not be able to continue hosting it until I get back in late April.
Mithridate
03-15-2012, 14:18
Seconded
Ibn-Khaldun
03-15-2012, 15:30
Monday is perfect for me! Also, 24 hour turns should be fine.
I need a mugshot of King Pozsony, the link above is to the wrong image. I am preparing the game on the assumption that the contestants are as follows:
Kerecse a Geregye nembol (The King)
Junior King Bokeny (phonicsmonkey)
King Pozsony (Cecil XIX)
Andras a zah nembol (Ignoramus)
Petur az akus nembol (Quirl)
Bokony a huntpaznan nembol (Mithridate)
Demeter az Aba nembol (Zim)
If any of these people are NOT participating, or if I have missed someone, please let me know ASAP
@The King (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=25845), phonicsmonkey, @Cecil XIX (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=14124), @Ignoramus (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=10336), @Quirl (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=29835), @Mithridate (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=94564), @Zim (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=22485)
Ibn-Khaldun
03-19-2012, 14:00
I am participating.
Apologies for the delay, there have been some last-minute changes to the participants and I am waiting on new stats and such. The tournament will begin shortly after I receive that information.
Mithridate
03-19-2012, 16:11
Sending info in a sec
Bökény a Hahold nemböl
Command 1
Dread 1
Loyalty 6
Piety 5
No chevrons... strange since i killed 100 pagans and all but 2 of the BG died :)
Relatively healthy
Militarily minded
scholar
Promising commander
generally loyal
Dutifully religious
Winning first
Brave
marks of War 2+ HP
Dislikes Pagans
TinCow
I have had a query regarding the Tournament that includes issues involving the death of combatants. I had been assuming the tournament was to be entirely non-lethal (like in KotF). If the players want death as a possibility, I will allow it, but I would like that to be a group or, at a minimum, a game host decision.
Ibn-Khaldun
03-19-2012, 22:57
I think this tournament should be non-lethal. We don't have enough players and loosing some avatars might hurt the game.
Mithridate
03-20-2012, 00:01
True, but i want to get more dread!!!
phonicsmonkey
03-20-2012, 02:50
No fatalities please, we need all our characters!
Nightbringer
03-20-2012, 11:35
I agree, no fatalities.
That's good enough for me. The tournament will be 100% non-lethal.
Ibn-Khaldun
03-23-2012, 10:34
Is there no way to contact Ignoramus or Zim?
phonicsmonkey
03-23-2012, 11:46
I've been looking out for Zim on Steam, if I see him online I'll message him there
Ibn-Khaldun
03-24-2012, 03:19
Now that we have Zim things should become more interesting in the tournament .. and in the courtroom as well. The latter is awkwardly quiet though..
My apologies, but I'm a bit busy tonight. Resolution of the latest Tournament turn will not occur until tomorrow morning.
phonicsmonkey
03-26-2012, 03:14
The latter is awkwardly quiet though..
There are good reasons for that, part of which is that all the characters are beating each other up in the arena....but all will become clearer soon
Does anyone mind if I remove Andras from the tournament? It does not seem likely that Ignoramus will ever submit orders, and Andras is increasingly likely to get in the way of the actual players.
Err... oops. I just realized I didn't factor the initiative sequence in properly for the Sam/Bokeny situation. I will be making changes to the write-op, one moment.
Ok, fixed. Sorry about that, I originally did the SW area moves without factoring in initiative because they didn't intercept any other characters. However, Sam's pushback from the first melee pushed him right into the path of Bokeny. In that situation, if Bokeny had already ended his movement, then there would have been no second melee this turn, and both would have started locked in combat next turn. However, that wasn't right because Bokeny had a low initiative, so his movement came after Sam had already been pushed back. Thus, Bokeny charged right into Sam, resulting in the second melee. Apologies for any confusion for people who saw the original version.
Ibn-Khaldun
03-26-2012, 14:24
Does anyone mind if I remove Andras from the tournament? It does not seem likely that Ignoramus will ever submit orders, and Andras is increasingly likely to get in the way of the actual players.
I don't mind. Accidents happen during tournaments. Even to the ones who don't do anything.
Ugh... So, it appears I made another error. I moved Bokeny one hex further than was possible for maximum movement. Based on the orders I received, he should have ended his movement at hex 128, not 129. Thus, he could not have entered into the second melee with Sam. Thus, Sam is still in the tournament and I need to redo this again.
:wall:
[edit]Fixed, hopefully for the last time...
:creep:
Mithridate
03-27-2012, 21:07
:daisy: ive just got to say, i love Ludolf xD ( but how bokeny hates him )
If bokeny dies its gona be a pain for me, but if he wins... oh so much FUN we can have :D
phonicsmonkey
03-27-2012, 23:49
:daisy: ive just got to say, i love Ludolf xD ( but how bokeny hates him )
If bokeny dies its gona be a pain for me, but if he wins... oh so much FUN we can have :D
Oh, are you duelling to the death? Awesome
EDIT:
Andras a zah nembol (Ignoramus) suddenly awakens from his stupor and charges directly into Demeter's rear.
Yay Igno is back and the gang's all here!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4BwFl3kb5g
Yay Igno is back and the gang's all here!
Ignoramus
03-28-2012, 06:36
Also pulled off a surprise there! I'm glad to be back in the swing of things.
Nightbringer
03-28-2012, 07:21
Hurray! Welcome back iggy!
phonicsmonkey
03-29-2012, 01:12
Hahold is appalled at the juniors king reaction and the killing of a fellow christian in cold blood. The squire could scarcely have been older than himself, as he struck down Keresce he had turned around to see Bokeny deliver the killing blow in what was supposed to be a mere beat down.
But seeing the expression on Bokenys face he held his tongue, gripping his lance and charged blindly at Bokeny and Demeter alike.
hey Mithri, are you attacking yourself? :laugh4:
Obviously, there can be only one Bokeny.
It would have been funny if the tournament ended with the three different Bokenys going at it. :clown:
hey Mithri, are you attacking yourself? :laugh4:
Mithridate
03-29-2012, 11:09
it was getting crowded in my head!
Its more fair this way^^
Ok. Every time I try to play one of these games something happens. So much for my triumphant return..
I recently got my install to work, but now am having trouble with these saves. Just go ahead and count me out. I'm sorry for the inconvenience. Maybe I should just hang my hat on my hotseat past after all. :(
Is SS working ok other than trying to access the saves for the rpg?
As the tournament is now over, I recommend that all participants receive the Tourney Entrant trait. In addition, all but Demeter took two hits during the tournament, so I recommend that all but Demeter receive Marks of War or, if they already have marks of war, scarred. I'm not sure what Demeter should win as the victor, since that's usually a 'prize' of some kind and should be determined by the IC Tournament host. However, I would like to suggest that he receive the Fine Armour ancillary. That grants +4 hps, which is more than the other combatants would receive from the Marks/Scarred trait, plus it sounds nice. Bokeny should probably get some kind of dread trait as well, for intentionally killing a man during a non-lethal tournament.
Thanks very much for running the tournament, TinCow. It was very fun. :bow:
phonicsmonkey
03-31-2012, 05:19
Thanks very much for running the tournament, TinCow. It was very fun. :bow:
Hear hear! thanks TinCow!
Nightbringer
03-31-2012, 06:56
Thank you very much for running it TinCow, it was great fun! Thanks for the trait recommendations as well, I will likely do all of that! :)
A new suit of armor would be quite cool....
phonicsmonkey
03-31-2012, 07:48
Hey guys, do you think you could decide and let me know what side your characters or their families were on in the war between Saul and Mate? (pozsony and bokeny's fathers)
I figure it would be public IC knowledge and I think it would help me RP to know.
Don't worry, I'm not planning a purge!
Nightbringer
03-31-2012, 07:59
Well, he might be actually, but I say you should provide that info so you better ;)
You want us to post it here?
Nightbringer
03-31-2012, 09:33
You want us to post it here?
Yes please
Ibn-Khaldun
03-31-2012, 13:18
Nightbringer - The winner, Zim, should also receive the entrance fee as I suggested in this post(and I think people agreed with it):
I think that is a good idea.
Either phonics or Cecil could call the nobles together. This would be a very good time for a tournament. Since there are not taht many of us then I don't think it will take that long to process the turns in the tournament.
So, I propose that all participants will play 300f entry fee and turns will last 24 hours. The winner would get 75% of that money and 25% will go to the second place. Sounds good?
And 3000 florins from phonicsmonkey as per this post:
To a fanfare the Junior King ascends the wooden platform in Varad's central square (usually used for hangings) to address the gathered nobles and spectators who have arrived for the tournament.
"Good people of Varad, nobles of the realm, I welcome you to the Grand Tournament!
It seems that our noble King hath been delayed in his approach and in his absence I am honoured to open the proceedings. The tournament entrants will face off in melee in this city square and the last man standing will win the prize of 3000 florins!
The rules have been made clear by our arbiter and I trust each man here will have the honour and chivalry to abide by them.
May the best man win!"
He leaves the platform and retires to prepare for the upcoming combat.
I also support those traits that TinCow proposed.
And thank you TinCow for running this tournament! :bow:
phonicsmonkey
03-31-2012, 13:20
Nightbringer - The winner, Zim, should also receive the entrance fee as I suggested in this post(and I think people agreed with it):
And 3000 florins from phonicsmonkey as per this post:
I also support those traits that TinCow proposed.
And thank you TinCow for running this tournament! :bow:
1000 fl was from my character and 2000fl was promised by Mithridate, that's where I got the 3k from
Ibn-Khaldun
03-31-2012, 13:22
In any case.. Zim is a rich man now! :laugh4:
I support all posts saying I should get more traits/rewards. :beam:
On the Civil War: Demeter was a strong supporter of Mate, believing him the rightful heir. When he passed in the war Demeter's loyalty was passed to his son Pozsony.
Hope you don't regret supporting those rewards for me now, Phonics. :clown:
Mithridate
03-31-2012, 13:34
Very well done with the tournament! And blast for Zim winning, was sure i had you there xD 1 more ability ftw
Bokeny should get +2 dread imho, one for calling for the duel and one for killing in cold blood and heres some options:
Iron Fisted +1 Dread, +1 Law
Fierce in Battle +1 Dread, +1 Troop Morale, +1 Command when attacking -1 command when defending
or upgrading current stats
Cruel and Cunning +2 Dread, ( gives one more dread)
Lacks Compassion +2 Dread (gives one more dread)
i would go with Fierce in battle and Iron fisted due to how i imagine my character and how/why he did what he did.
According to me, those where the traits desirable if you just dont bump up the battle or prisoner dread.
attacking, -1 Command when defending
Now, I hope we will all move to the kings chamber Immediately to lay out our plans and so.
If possible, Bokeny took no ones side in the war and stayed out of it. Not willing to spill fellow hungarian blood at the time, now things may be different.
Edit: I promised 2000 gold to the winner, its fine if that falls under the 75% 25% ruling but i dont think our drooling friend should get the 25%
I also promised a finely crafted sword, should NH accept to add it. ( im sure ive seen one, could not find it tho )
Nightbringer
phonicsmonkey
03-31-2012, 13:46
Now, I hope we will all move to the kings chamber Immediately to lay out our plans and so.
If possible, Bokeny took no ones side in the war and stayed out of it. Not willing to spill fellow hungarian blood at the time, now things may be different.
That's fine by me and to some extent makes sense given your family rule a border region and not a core territory of the kingdom.
I assume The King's character, as a vassal of mine now, would have been on my side in the civil war so that just leaves Ignoramus to declare one way or the other
And yes, we'll get to our courtroom debate but Mithridate isn't there something you are forgetting to do first?
Mithridate
03-31-2012, 13:48
And yes, we'll get to our courtroom debate but Mithridate isn't there something you are forgetting to do first?
Hmm? No id never forget :)
Ibn-Khaldun
03-31-2012, 13:59
That's fine by me and to some extent makes sense given your family rule a border region and not a core territory of the kingdom.
I assume @The King (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=25845)'s character, as a vassal of mine now, would have been on my side in the civil war so that just leaves @Ignoramus (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=10336) to declare one way or the other
And yes, we'll get to our courtroom debate but @Mithridate (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=94564) isn't there something you are forgetting to do first?
Well, I have wanted to write a story about Kerecse's earlier life but always something distracts me from it..
Anyway, this is how I see it.
Kerecse and his parents were neutral in the conflict until some soldiers of Pozsony's father came and killed his parents and burned his home estate. After that Kerecse joined Junior King and became very loyal to him. From his statements it should be clear that he did not like Pozsony, although he played no part in Kerecse's parents death, that much.
phonicsmonkey
03-31-2012, 14:21
Ok. Every time I try to play one of these games something happens. So much for my triumphant return..
I recently got my install to work, but now am having trouble with these saves. Just go ahead and count me out. I'm sorry for the inconvenience. Maybe I should just hang my hat on my hotseat past after all. :(
Quirl, I hope you can get it working and don't have to hang up your hat! We want you to stay in the game!
Ah, Mithridate, you beat me to the threatening gesture by a minute. Ah well, maybe the effect on Ludolf will be doubled. :clown:
Mithridate
03-31-2012, 14:46
Zim mwhaha :)
its a shame we painted us into a corner though, since NH is not online its hard to proceed with discussions
I think Phonics will be out for the night shortly (and may want to kick things off with a speech as the new King) so that just gives us something else to anticipate in the meantime.
Ibn-Khaldun
03-31-2012, 15:15
This tournament made me fire up Mount&Blade Warband to try to become a champion in tournaments there.. so far.. no luck.. :laugh4:
Ibn-Khaldun
03-31-2012, 15:24
In single player, yes. I can fight against 2-3 opponents but those 4 teams and 8 participant fights are nasty.. I always get overwhelmed there.
Mithridate
03-31-2012, 15:27
This tournament made me fire up Mount&Blade Warband to try to become a champion in tournaments there.. so far.. no luck.. :laugh4:
AWESOME GAME!
(damn you! Got me to fire up Prophesy of Pendor mod of Awesomeness... I got caught by 7 knights almost immediately so now i have some damn fine armor :D )
With a great start, comes great desire to outdo previous games... you have just cost me a couple days of my life, granted ill have a great time but now im all hyped bout PoP 4 again!
It does get really tough at times. I stand a good chance of winning a tournament as long as it doesn't include horse archery (*shudder*).
I end up spending some of the big fights staying out of the way until the field thins. Not very heroic. :clown:
In single player, yes. I can fight against 2-3 opponents but those 4 teams and 8 participant fights are nasty.. I always get overwhelmed there.
Mithridate
03-31-2012, 16:23
keep in mind you can still give orders in tournaments, this gives you very good odds onthe large melees...
But for those when you spawn between two huge teams... sorry ur kinda screwed^^
Ibn-Khaldun
03-31-2012, 16:58
With horse archer tournaments(like in the Khergit lands) I try to keep myself moving all the time, keep myself out of the fight and if there is an opportunity then attack someone from behind. The trick is to stay on their right side since they can't shoot that way.
When I am on foot I also try to stay out of the fight if possible but it is really hard with multiple large teams. For some reason so far I always have ended up in weak teams..
And I know I can control my team in tournament but I am usually too busy trying to stay alive and commanding someone is the last on my mind..
I remember an old character who had a good athletics skill and in a tournament it ended up me running away from a group of angry Nords.. It really must have been looked like an episode from Benny Hill Show..
If there is one city I really hate (tournament wise) then it is Praven.. Only lances!!
Mithridate
03-31-2012, 17:13
Lances are awesome, just couch them and you cant be stopped!
Easy early money and renown imho^^ But Nord tournaments are nasty!
In khergit... yea, behind on the right is key. I like archery tho so i usually dismount for quick sniping.
Also, i always order my men to dismount for way better aim and to move together.
Always best to hold your own back five to ten seconds letting the enemy connect before your united front does :)
Ibn-Khaldun
03-31-2012, 17:42
I hate the Lance tournaments when it's 1v1 fight. At least it takes for me about 5 minute careful planning and maneuvering until I can get my lucky charge.. and if I miss it then it all starts again..
I can see we have plenty of M&B player here! :laugh4:
Mithridate
03-31-2012, 17:47
wanna know how to beat them 19 times out of 20? :)
Lance vs Lance The King
Ibn-Khaldun
03-31-2012, 17:59
Sure!
Mithridate
03-31-2012, 19:14
Sure!
kite his horse down from beneath him by riding in a circle. Slow down and time it so he charges and misses narrowly, then immediately turn around and charge towards him as he turns. Poke his horse to death, prefrably by the head. Repeat untill horse is dead then couch the near harmless beggar down. You will get the hang of it quickly^^
Phone post out!
Ha. I always feel bad when I accidentally take out their horse. Unlike the humans they didn't sign up to be beat with a wooden lance/sword/etc. ~;p
I can see we have plenty of M&B player here! :laugh4:
M&B is quite big at the .Org, in part thanks to Crazed Rabbit's efforts. That giant M&B thread (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?48444-Sweet-Realistic-Medieval-Combat-(Mount-and-Blade))of his in the Arena was even mentioned in the game credits, I think.
Nightbringer
04-01-2012, 12:04
sorry about the delay everyone, I have been a bit busy. I should get things updated tomorrow and hopefully give you guys a save then as well. In the meantime, I think orienting to a new king will keep you busy. Oh, and pozsony's avatar is going to be busy running off to a suicide ship, so please don't interfere with him for the time being.
Mithridate
04-01-2012, 13:13
Did he no longer wish to play?
phonicsmonkey
04-01-2012, 13:53
Did he no longer wish to play?
Yeah, he had to drop the game for RL issues.
Plus he got murdered by Cumans, which was difficult for him.
By the way Mithri I had no idea Baia had been given to you already - even the GM didn't know (I asked him beforehand)!
Mithridate
04-01-2012, 14:01
Pff, story thread post 12 :) When the king arrives in Baia
"Lord Bokony, you are hereby appointed as Lord of Bessarabia. You charged with the defense of these lands and the maintenance of law and order within them. In addition, you are appointed Master of the Treasury, and given the power to negotiate with foreign powers in the name of the King. I expect you to discharge these duties faithfully, and well."
now, GIEF HALYCH!!! :D
phonicsmonkey
04-01-2012, 14:06
Pff, story thread post 12 :) When the king arrives in Baia
"Lord Bokony, you are hereby appointed as Lord of Bessarabia. You charged with the defense of these lands and the maintenance of law and order within them. In addition, you are appointed Master of the Treasury, and given the power to negotiate with foreign powers in the name of the King. I expect you to discharge these duties faithfully, and well."
now, GIEF HALYCH!!! :D
Ah, sorry I missed that.. Anyway it wouldn't have made a difference to Bokeny's decisions. Sometimes the King gives you the settlements you capture, sometimes he doesn't. Sometimes he gets killed by cumans and you have to deal with the new guy instead. :laugh4:
Ibn-Khaldun
04-01-2012, 14:16
sorry about the delay everyone, I have been a bit busy. I should get things updated tomorrow and hopefully give you guys a save then as well. In the meantime, I think orienting to a new king will keep you busy. Oh, and pozsony's avatar is going to be busy running off to a suicide ship, so please don't interfere with him for the time being.
You don't need ship for that. In M2TW you can easily get rid off unwanted avatars. Just find one of these landbridges. Teleport your avatar next to it and order him to cross it. When he is in the middle of it(on the sea tile) just press Backspace and order him to stop. He will then drown.
Straits of Bosphorus were very dangerous in LotR. Many avatars met their end there .. :laugh4:
phonicsmonkey
04-01-2012, 14:19
You don't need ship for that. In M2TW you can easily get rid off unwanted avatars. Just find one of these landbridges. Teleport your avatar next to it and order him to cross it. When he is in the middle of it(on the sea tile) just press Backspace and order him to stop. He will then drown.
Straits of Bosphorus were very dangerous in LotR. Many avatars met their end there .. :laugh4:
Irritatingly there are no land bridges in SS 6.4! I should know as I tried to kill off the Teutonic order in one of the hotseats.
Ibn-Khaldun
04-01-2012, 14:30
I never noticed that! :laugh4:
In that case things will be a bit more difficult..
There is always an option to teleport an avatar to another side of the map and let him attack some large rebel force. Since there are no friendly provinces around the avatar will die.
Nightbringer
04-02-2012, 06:03
I never noticed that! :laugh4:
In that case things will be a bit more difficult..
There is always an option to teleport an avatar to another side of the map and let him attack some large rebel force. Since there are no friendly provinces around the avatar will die.
The other problem is that I have been having a lot of trouble getting the console to recognize some of the hungarian names, the king's included, so teleporting isn't an option.
Also, I think the save will have to wait till tomorrow at least.
phonicsmonkey
04-02-2012, 06:37
The other problem is that I have been having a lot of trouble getting the console to recognize some of the hungarian names, the king's included, so teleporting isn't an option.
Also, I think the save will have to wait till tomorrow at least.
he probably had a name before he became the king, which it is now impossible to discover...
Nightbringer
04-03-2012, 01:25
I have updated the first post of the OOC thread for new titles, holdings, etc... please let me know if anything is in error.
Ibn-Khaldun
04-03-2012, 11:38
Btw, who is the heir now? In-game I mean.
phonicsmonkey
04-03-2012, 11:42
Btw, who is the heir now? In-game I mean.
Junior King Bese is the heir - the game has made him a character even though he is not of age (only 14) - he is available for a new player
There's another guy too, at Brasov.
Nightbringer, do Mithri and I get those two to control?
Nightbringer
04-03-2012, 11:58
Gah, so many! Yes, I guess you do. :)
phonicsmonkey
04-03-2012, 12:21
Theking, in case it wasn't clear, with Zagreb you get the garrison and also the troops in the two nearby forts. Enjoy!
Hey phonicsmonkey and Mithridate , I was informed earlier that for Demeter to get the tournament winnings the donators should include the losses in their report for next turn. Don't forget (accidentally at least, it's quite another thing if your character decided he doesn't want to give him the money. :clown:).
phonicsmonkey
04-04-2012, 07:32
Oops I forgot. Nightbringer could you please give Demeter 1k from my stash?
Nightbringer
04-04-2012, 08:49
ok :)
Ibn-Khaldun
04-04-2012, 11:08
Nightbringer - Did you retracted that 300 florin entry fee from all the players who participated in the tournament?
Mithridate
04-04-2012, 13:17
I forgot that!
Also, i promised 2000 to the winner as well.
Nightbringer
04-05-2012, 00:17
everyone should also deduct the 300 from for their entry fee. :) A new turn should be up some time today.
Mithridate
04-05-2012, 18:55
Hurry, I expect a big battle with lots of roleplay!
Nightbringer
Nightbringer
04-05-2012, 21:18
The King,
I realized I never got a financial report from you for this turn. Could you send me one before you play your next turn.
Ibn-Khaldun
04-05-2012, 22:04
@The King (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=25845),
I realized I never got a financial report from you for this turn. Could you send me one before you play your next turn.
Oh, sry, this is something new to me(sending financial reports). I must have forgot it.
Nightbringer
04-10-2012, 04:16
I'll try to get a new turn up tonight everyone :)
phonicsmonkey
04-11-2012, 00:45
fyi everyone it looks like the Sicilians are trying to take southern greece, or may already have done so.
So we may not get much further than Corinth in that direction.
Mithridate
04-11-2012, 16:59
If you guys serve the King well you will be rewarded with lands.
Ive defeated 5 armies, taken 2 castles 1 fort :P... me think i deserve... moar :D
In all sincerity though, i will earn more lands for both of us shortly .
Edited due to Phonics... correction ;)
phonicsmonkey
04-12-2012, 00:20
Ive defeated 5 armies, taken 3 castles... me think i deserve... moar :D
In all sincerity though, i will earn more lands for both of us shortly .
3 castles? Baia, Halych and....what's the other one?
Anyway, good things come to those who wait. Have faith in your King!
phonicsmonkey
04-13-2012, 02:23
I have been doing some active recruiting for this game, hopefully we can get a few more players to make it even better
SeruGiran
04-13-2012, 23:38
Hey, hello guys, I'm new in these forums, but not in Twcenter :), Mithridate told me this was a great RP hotseat, So I would like to join,
Mithridate also told me that "Andras a Zah nembol's" character was free, and recommended it to me, So If I could play as him I would like it,
I've read the Rules and probably ask you a few questions later :P
Mithridate
04-13-2012, 23:55
Welcome!
Well, any objections? If not please shower me with praise :laugh4:
phonicsmonkey Nightbringer Zim SeruGiran
This @ function is a very nice way to communicate btw, try it out.
Nightbringer
04-14-2012, 05:03
awesome! welcome to the game and the throne room and the .org SeruGiran! I will send you your character's current funds later tonight. if you have any questions please feel free to ask.
oh, and great work Mithridate praise praise praise... :)
Mithridate
04-14-2012, 06:09
Ah, the praise... warms my heart :smitten:
So you are now officially Andras a Zah nembol SeruGiran
Couple things: Most of us keep a representative at the capitol to make announcements for our avatars when they are out in the field or too far away from it.
Also, Bokony would welcome your aid in his march against Constantinople. Next turn he will assault the castle next to it. If you want, getting closer to it and joining in would be sweet ;)
Ibn-Khaldun
04-14-2012, 10:36
Welcome SeruGiran !
Have to apologize for being so inactive. I recently bought NTW and have been dragged into it. :shame: Once I conquer Europe in NTW I will do the same in here.. ofc in the name of our king phonics.. ~:P
SeruGiran
04-14-2012, 14:07
Well, Thank you all for the warm welcoming!,
Mithridate, I'm honored to join you in the battlefield against those roman pigs,
phonicsmonkey
04-14-2012, 14:09
Welcome SeruGiran!
Mithridate
04-15-2012, 00:49
Sorry over the late financial reports NH, gona fix them now.
Turn 11 and 12 got mixed up so i thought it was sent
Good thing calculating the total upkeep is so FUN :wall:
phonicsmonkey
04-15-2012, 05:26
Good thing calculating the total upkeep is so FUN :wall:
Yeah, my wife thinks I'm nuts sitting by the computer game with my calculator and pen...
Nightbringer
04-15-2012, 21:00
Yeah, my wife thinks I'm nuts
Well, that's my goal. So mission accomplished!
phonicsmonkey
04-17-2012, 03:31
can anyone tell me what the current year is in game?
EDIT: also, in past games we had separate threads for stories and battle reports. Do we want to do that here to separate the AAR-style battle reports from more literary stories?
Nightbringer
04-17-2012, 07:23
I will try to get the next turn up soon, I will attach the year of each turn as it comes up from now on. As for the battle reports, I haven't felt like it is an issue so far, but if you want to move the posts into seperate threads with your magic GM powers feel free to do so.
phonicsmonkey
04-17-2012, 07:44
I will try to get the next turn up soon, I will attach the year of each turn as it comes up from now on. As for the battle reports, I haven't felt like it is an issue so far, but if you want to move the posts into seperate threads with your magic GM powers feel free to do so.
See what others think...thanks for the dates, it just helps me get my stories organised
Mithridate
04-17-2012, 07:54
I prefer it as it is, but if we get some more flow i agree with phonicsmonkey
Nightbringer
04-28-2012, 08:43
I would like to request that any future posts in the story thread that contain images get spoiler tags around them. This is because it is getting to be quite annoying to load the thread because it keeps moving the screen as images load. This should make browsing the thread much easier. Thanks everyone, and keep up with the great work. I am loving the battle reports and writing!
phonicsmonkey
04-28-2012, 09:03
I would like to request that any future posts in the story thread that contain images get spoiler tags around them. This is because it is getting to be quite annoying to load the thread because it keeps moving the screen as images load. This should make browsing the thread much easier. Thanks everyone, and keep up with the great work. I am loving the battle reports and writing!
sorry, my bad - have edited and will use spoilers in future
Mithridate
04-28-2012, 16:58
Ill do the same when i post my new stories, but theres a way around this issue if you only want to read/post:
Cancel the page refreshing, and the pics stop loading.
Ibn-Khaldun
05-11-2012, 14:46
So.. :tumbleweed:
Nightbringer
05-11-2012, 17:25
phonicsmonkey, Zim, The King
Ya, I'm sorry about the lack of updates, this academic quarter continues to be hellish for me and I was hoping some other people would pop in to play the turn. Mithridate? SeruGiran?
Does everyone think it is worth continuing this game at this point. I am certainly willing to, but given the rate we are losing players I'm not sure if anyone is really invested still at this point. Let me know what you think. Maybe I should jujt stick to trying to get the turn done on time as opposed to waiting and letting all players play the save?
phonicsmonkey
05-12-2012, 03:04
Mithridate played first. It's Zim and Serugiran that haven't.
I think these games generally see more instances of inactivity from players than hotseats so if I were you I'd just keep it moving.
I think we can continue and have fun even with a core group of three or four players.
Maybe Mithridate could contact SeruGiran to see if he's still in the game?
I'm still here. Just been a bit busy and I figured Demeter could hold still a turn (might help with his having fallen ill...or is it better to stay a turn in a settlement or fort?).
Ibn-Khaldun
05-12-2012, 15:07
I am still here as well. I would like it to continue. ~:)
Mithridate
05-13-2012, 07:29
Im sure seru wants to continue, will throw him a PM as he is not active on this forum.
I need to get my thumb out of my ass and type some short battle reports :D
still have the pics, but uploading them is a pain.
Im still here for sure as well, having an activity drop that will continue for a while but i am NOT leaving.
Nightbringer
05-13-2012, 21:51
Okay, good to know everyone! :)
I will be uploading the next turn tomorrow night.
I'll get my financial report sent within the day.
Ibn-Khaldun
05-15-2012, 07:34
I'll get my financial report sent within the day.
Thank you for reminding me that I forgot to do something..
Ignoramus
05-15-2012, 07:37
Hello guys, how's it going?
Sorry for my extreme inactivity - I got snowed under at uni, and couldn't keep up. Fully understand if Andras has gone.
Nightbringer
05-15-2012, 21:14
Andras has been taken up by someone else, but there are plenty of available avatars if you are interested in joining in again.
phonicsmonkey
05-18-2012, 13:30
Just letting you guys know I may not take the save this turn so don't wait for me
Ibn-Khaldun
05-21-2012, 22:26
So, how does the Crusade work?
I will make a list of the upkeep of all the units involved? What about any crusader units I recruit during the crusade? The start with 0 upkeep.
Nightbringer
05-22-2012, 08:50
So, how does the Crusade work?
I will make a list of the upkeep of all the units involved? What about any crusader units I recruit during the crusade? The start with 0 upkeep.
Good question, I would say you can take those at 100 for non knight units, and 200 for knight units (cheap because they are just after the crusade itself).
Basically, I want people to be able to get the mercs, movement, traits, etc..., just not the free upkeep.
Ibn-Khaldun
05-22-2012, 22:30
Good question, I would say you can take those at 100 for non knight units, and 200 for knight units (cheap because they are just after the crusade itself).
Basically, I want people to be able to get the mercs, movement, traits, etc..., just not the free upkeep.
Perhaps making all non knight units cost 100 and knight units(also cavalry) 200? It would make it easier to calculate the upkeep.
Nightbringer
05-23-2012, 07:05
Perhaps making all non knight units cost 100 and knight units(also cavalry) 200? It would make it easier to calculate the upkeep.
Sure, but I'll make it all non knight are 200, all knight or mounted are 300 then.
Nightbringer
07-04-2012, 17:38
Hello guys,
given the lack of progress in this game for the past month, and the latest king getting set up to retire, I think we should perhaps put this game on hiatus, or just call it done. I definitely had fun while it was going, but I think I really underestimated the amount of work I was setting myself up for.
My updates kept getting delayed, which really didn't help things, and the timing just seemed to have been wrong as well, with a number of players having to drop out.
Thank you to everyone who participated! Perhaps someday in the future this game can come back, but if not I'm okay with that.
In any case, see you all on the battlefield in the rest of the throne room!
Ibn-Khaldun
07-08-2012, 16:18
This was an interesting game. Thank you for hosting it! :bow:
Mithridate
07-11-2012, 05:41
Agreed, thank you! Was great fun, should you find yourself with too much time and hosting another then sign me up :P
phonicsmonkey
07-12-2012, 02:21
I really enjoyed this game from start to finish. It was great to be the King, hope my reign is considered a success by the future historians of Hungary.
Thanks for running it NB!
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