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PelicanMan
02-28-2012, 23:06
Hey Guys,

Just wanted to let you guys know that I will be starting up another game soon enough with pictures, strat talk, etc.

My new computer just came in yesterday and it is a BEAST!!!! I played around with it yesterday and holy crap!!!! I wish I would have done this sooner. :yes:

Anyways, I haven't chosen a faction yet, but I am leaning towards Getai.

If you guys have any suggestions, please let me know. I definitely want to immerse myself into this next one since everything now runs absolutely great.

Also, Should I do unit size Huge???? I can, but I just do not know if it is worth it. Maybe there will be less stacks... I dunno... this is uncharted territory for me!!!

Anyways, love to hear back from you guys on what you think.

THE PELICAN MAN

Arjos
02-28-2012, 23:13
Anyways, I haven't chosen a faction yet, but I am leaning towards Getai.

Religious nobility, many ethnicities, deadly roster: they are one awesome faction, definitely recommended ^^


Also, Should I do unit size Huge????

YES!!!! It makes for big messy battles, when I look at normal or large settings, I wonder if there's people fighting or a pub brawl going on :P

d'Arthez
02-28-2012, 23:28
Definitely huge unit size, though it won't have much of an impact on the AIs unit stack generation, since they have population replenishment through the EB script. But you'll have to recruit wisely, as units are not expendable on huge.

Getai should be a fun campaign. Definitely recommended.

Congrats on the new rig.

Frtigern
02-28-2012, 23:58
The Getai rock! Their Elite missile units can double as pretty good flanking or skirmisher chasing troops.
Once you take Naissos, Singidunum, Tylis, Serdike, Ak-Ink, Gwajam-Bastarnoz you get access to the coolest melee units of the game IMO. Then you can move north to the Baltic to gain their units, or west to the Alps to get theirs, or south and east to Greece and Anatolia to add their men to your dominion. Of course you won't get too many Hellenic units, and as the Getai why would you want them anyways. The only exception is their cavalry and their phalangitai, in case you need to counter some serious sarissa heavy armies. Then of course you have quick access to horse archer mercenaries up in Mikra-Sythia in case the Sauromatae want to venture south.

Ischyroi Orditon - these guys are handy dual-purpose professionals
Komatai Epilektoi - calling them skirmishers does not do their versatility justice
Komatai - When the javelins run out, flank their hoplites and phalangites and charge them with sicas!
Thraikioi Peltastai - An even deadlier Thracian version of the Komatai.
Komatai Agrianai - When the arrows run out, flank their hoplites and phalangites and charge them with sicas!
Komatai Thorakitai Stratiotai - can match a hoplite phalanx, and get in with them with their sicas.
Komatai Pelekuphoroi - these axemen are also killer flankers.
Cordinau Orca - Elite Celtic swordsmen
Boii Cingetos - Disciplined
Taxeis Triballoi - Good all around
Galathraikes - Brave, hardy
Uirodusios - Their naked, nuff said.

And let not forget the falxmen!
Drapanai and Druxtiz Basterniskā
If those simple falxmen aren't good enough the Thraikioi Rhomphaiaphoroi are excellent!

Their generals and cavalry roster may be the Getai's only shortfall, but creative use with Thraikioi Hippeis, Tarabostes, Thraikioi Prodromoi, amd Lonchophoroi Hippeis and you should be just fine.

Brennus
02-29-2012, 00:39
Welcome back! I look forward with baited breath to your new campaign. Personally i would love to see a Pahlava or Saka game but if many people suggest the Getai to you feel free to go with the majority. Can't wait to see what you get up to!

Nachtmeister
02-29-2012, 09:36
Welcome back!

I have to recommend the Casse faction to you, even if you are going to start a Getai campaign anyway - simply because I would have a bad conscience for not informing you about the opportunity. ^^

Here, have a taste of what glories would await you.

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It is the winter of 253 BC, more than a dozen winters into the reign of Barae, Catuvellaunorix, the shining blade of the proud and mighty Casse.

We have conquered all of southern britain and sent out four armies - one under the king himself, to set out to subdue the Caledonians and fill our ranks with their soldiers, one army of volunteers under his less favoured son who wishes to prove his worth to Italy to aid our "allies" from the mainland of Gaul to prevent foreign dominance over the lands that are to be ours when the time comes, and two light and mobile attack forces under the successor and the secretly desired successor, the king's own firstborn, so as to enable him to prove his superiority on the battlefield and in doing so, to halt the rise of the Suebic alliance.

Our allies are the constantly squabbling Aedui and Arverni. The former have once driven us from our lands, some of which we have already reclaimed in a heroic struggle against their former allies, which has granted us control over the main route of trade between all of Britain and continental Gaul, but they are still useful to us as long as they are not strong enough to stand without our support. The latter are not much more than robbers, but as long as they continue to grant our forces free passage over their lands and keep their covetous eyes and their swords cast against foreign powers, we would do well to keep them in place for the time being.
When the time comes, they will make worthy adversaries in the final struggle for total dominion over the western parts of the vast lands across the sea.
We have already established military bases and a profitable trade network in the westernmost parts of the lands across the seas, next to their territory, and they have the sense to leave our trading parties to their business.

Since we will need a secure border in the east if our reign over the mainland across the sea is to stand uncontested, we sought allies in the east and found them among the tribes of the Getae; they seem content to focus their military attention on the powerful armies of the nomadic kings east of their lands and the infighting hellenes at their southern borders.

Pillaging and burning Rome, seizing all lands of Italy and installing the tribes of the Gauls beyond the Alps there as lords and thus ridding our soon to be southern borders of the ever scheming Italian decadents is our most pressing objective at the moment, before they grow too rich, strong and confident to conquer.

At present, the tribes of Iberia who are in league with the people who are constantly trying to claim our most holy lands in the west of Britain have pledged loyalty to us, no doubt to avert our swords from their homes, since they are hard pressed to rid themselves of the greedy people who come across the great southern sea to take the rich metals from their mountains. When we finally do move against those who dare to claim our western sanctuary on the island of darkness, they will be forced to make a choice and since crushing the Hibernians means to crush their cousins, they will have no choice but to go to war with us and we stand to gain great glory in a contest of power and courage against the best of their fighting men. After we firmly secure the lands immediately across the sea to settle once and for all the question of who is to become the high king of all Celts, they will find themselves standing in the way of our quest to unite all Celts under HIS great banner.

From there - who knows? We could take the prized metals of the Alps, honouring the fierce warriors there by admitting them to the number of our hosts, or we could move to aid the far-flung colonies that still continueto struggle against the people they once conquered to remind the world of the great exploits of Brennos, although he was not one of us. We could even extend the rule and protection of our swords to those Celts who are now pressed into servitude under a king who calls himself "Pharaoh"...

Brennus
02-29-2012, 11:23
Welcome back!

I have to recommend the Casse faction to you, even if you are going to start a Getai campaign anyway - simply because I would have a bad conscience for not informing you about the opportunity. ^^.

Afraid Pelican Man already beat you to it, his first campaign was with the Casse. It's floating around here somewhere, well worth the read.

Nachtmeister
02-29-2012, 16:56
Afraid Pelican Man already beat you to it, his first campaign was with the Casse. It's floating around here somewhere, well worth the read.

Indeed. Ah, well, at least I picked a different strategy, otherwise my post would have been completely useless.

P-Man, I suppose you will not be very thirsty for a new Casse campaign then. Out of curiosity - the other thread (with your Casse campaign) trails off at some point... So did you complete that campaign, or did it get replaced by another one?
Either way, I am itching to read of your new campaign.

PelicanMan
02-29-2012, 17:51
Definitely huge unit size, though it won't have much of an impact on the AIs unit stack generation, since they have population replenishment through the EB script. But you'll have to recruit wisely, as units are not expendable on huge.

Getai should be a fun campaign. Definitely recommended.

Congrats on the new rig.

I did some dry runs yesterday just to test out the rig, and holy shite... I definitely am going with huge no matter what. As for Getai, I'm still on the fence with that one.


Welcome back! I look forward with baited breath to your new campaign. Personally i would love to see a Pahlava or Saka game but if many people suggest the Getai to you feel free to go with the majority. Can't wait to see what you get up to!

Well Brennus, the moment you said Saka, something inside me got excited... maybe I should go with them. Loads of arrows and horses running around would be pretty sweet. I definitely have to consider that one. As for Pahlava, I dunno... I'm tempted and a little frightened by their position... do they have what it takes? Do they have the decent roster? I don't know yet... but that one is definitely in the consideration.


Indeed. Ah, well, at least I picked a different strategy, otherwise my post would have been completely useless.

P-Man, I suppose you will not be very thirsty for a new Casse campaign then. Out of curiosity - the other thread (with your Casse campaign) trails off at some point... So did you complete that campaign, or did it get replaced by another one?
Either way, I am itching to read of your new campaign.

I still think about Casse... they are definitely fun to play. I tried them for a couple test runs just to see the rig's capabilities and all... As for my Casse campaign that I did, well, I was pretty sure I was going to attain victory. I had everything setup for a victory and I would have just wasted my time steamrolling into Spain. Not enough army to really stand in my way. They are definitely a strong faction, but I have already written a report on them and I think it would get stale for me to write up another one... unless I did a different strategy. My gut feeling is to play them, but I want to report on the site and, well, I have already done that. I'll use them as a "in between" campaign sort of deal.

Anyways, so it comes down to three factions then...

Saka
Pahlava
Getai.

Right now I am leaning towards the first two and Pahlava does sound tempting because of their position... this one will be a tough one to pick. I will definitely pick today because I will start the campaign today. I'm sooooo excited!!!! lol hahaha I feel like it's Christmas and I'm getting that GI Joe with the kung fu grip. lol

Let me know what you guys think!!!

Thanks!

THE PELICAN MAN

moonburn
02-29-2012, 18:48
about the getai best heavy infantry in the world once you get those cordinau orca and gallothraikes running around like mad men butchering everything in their path

saka and phallava you get the allure of the reforms that keeps you going trough the mid game particulary when you have to face off against endless after endless stack of greys when i play one those easternrs whenever i get a chance i build a navy slip an army around charax and go straight for seulekeia and babylon to destroy their mics (and if you are still alive drop by antiocheia too) or else it will not be a fun campaign the 1st batles will be epic then you´ll just end up picking a river pass and all you want to do is finish it off fast and move on

ofc you can always do the old put 5 units of horse archers attack them and retreat repeat and rewind but thats alot of batles

personally i would advice you a makedonian or epirote campaign rich balkan mines and quick fast expansion secure borderlands with river forts (or just outright destroy the getai wich i never do they´re fun to destroy later on) client rullers in naissos (for tribaloi) in singidinum (for the cordinau orca and gallotraikes) tylis (for galothraikes personally i deslike the naked dudes and if you got a girlfriend going around you while you play you´ll regreat recruiting them when she starts dissing you about your "anime" porn) border forts on the bosphorus and you get roughly 20 years of peace (as makedonia) or the perfect economical base to destroy the romans (for the epirotes)

trust me border forts on the 2 illyrian passes on the 2 bosphorus passes and around the danube and your mines will make you the richest allive

if you´re ain´t into that then arverni or aedui are fun campaigns

another sugestion could be the famous migration campaigns grab the koinon hellenon and move them to the bosphorus or to emporion and arse and start from there (or grab the aedui and move to ireland thats also an extremly fun campaign)

athanaric
02-29-2012, 19:00
Well Brennus, the moment you said Saka, something inside me got excited... maybe I should go with them. Loads of arrows and horses running around would be pretty sweet. I definitely have to consider that one. As for Pahlava, I dunno... I'm tempted and a little frightened by their position... do they have what it takes? Do they have the decent roster? I don't know yet... but that one is definitely in the consideration.
All in all, Saka advantages are:
+ Most powerful bows in the game (meaning that Saka foot archers outrange Kretan archers and Saka HAs outrange all other HAs (except Yuezhi, who are inside your starting territory anyway)
+ Excellent selection of cavalry units covering every type of mounted soldier
+ Privileged access to Hellenistic and Indian auxiliaries (and unique ones, at that. Especially heavy infantry, something Pahlava lacks)

Disadvantages:
- Comparatively weak economy and infrastructure - they can be "out-teched" even by the "Euro-Barbarian" factions.

Pahlava is a different kettle of fish and their reforms are less focused on the military.
Advantages:
+ Powerful economy and infrastructure inside the "reform area" (almost equal to Romani or Qarthadastim, i.e. one of the most powerful)
+ One of the best cavalry rosters, with a focus on HAs and cataphracts
+ Useful auxiliaries of various denomiations, including levy phalanx

Disadvantages:
- Reformed governments are limited to a core region (which is very large but doesn't include all provinces needed for the victory conditions). Outside of that, their economy and infrastructure is still better than the Saka's, but not much.
- No factional heavily armoured infantry. Hyrkanians are technically heavy infantry but they don't carry armour, leaving them vulnerable to missiles.

Both factions are very fast on the strat map, especially the Saka since they don't suffer from movement penalties in winter (This will be a whole new experience for you, especially after playing Saba). Saka actually - surprisingly - have one of the most balanced rosters after their reform. One of the most powerful, too. They can also build Buddhist monuments, if you're into that kind of thing. Oh and BTW, both factions have totally worthless navies, so proceed with caution if you're planning naval invasions.
Personally, I like Pahlava's faction symbol and economy better, while at the same time I prefer the Saka factional colour and unit roster.

Titus Marcellus Scato
02-29-2012, 19:01
Saka and Pahlava have been fun for me, but then I play M/M difficulty. The Seleucids don't get so many units on Medium campaign.

Just been playing a Saka campaign, and blitzing 8 towns in the first 4 years was fun! Going from one territory to a nice little empire so quickly gives you a sense of accomplishment.

Titus Marcellus Scato
02-29-2012, 19:03
All in all, Saka advantages are:
especially the Saka since they don't suffer from movement penalties in winter

Saka suffer movement penalties in summer.

athanaric
02-29-2012, 19:07
Saka suffer movement penalties in summer.
Only in arid regions AFAIK, so you can plan campaigns around that.

Andres
02-29-2012, 20:06
Welcome back ~:wave: