View Full Version : Prometheus
I love you, Ridley Scott. :smitten:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWmbqH_z7jM
The other viral trailers are cool, but this one is the best.
Vladimir
04-25-2012, 19:45
No idea. :shrug:
One thing I'm certain about is that we haven't cracked that whole M theory thing. Strange that it was mentioned.
One thing I'm certain about is that we haven't cracked that whole M theory thing. Strange that it was mentioned.
Maybe Peter isn't much of a technical guy, he comes across as more of a eviler Steve Jobs type. :tongue:
I'm hoping Scott is making this as suspense/horror film like the first, the action in the second film made it entertaining but emptier. The official trailer has that feel, but trailers can be deceiving. Big things have small beginnings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UEv03g51kU
The Imax trailer has some different footage, and sound editing to die for. Happy to admit that I have unrealistically high expectations for this film ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swpl3Mp6A_w
And don't forget the other "viral" clip, the fake TED talk from the future.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2BxH-xwc9M
gaelic cowboy
04-27-2012, 16:54
Hmm the choice of the term Promethus I believe will have a bit of slant on the movie, I bet they take summit they shouldnt from the space jockeys.
Stealing fire from the gods and all so that the gods send us an annoyance in the form of women was it not??
In this case they instead send the alien creatures to eat us maybe????
Vladimir
04-27-2012, 17:47
In this case they instead send the alien creatures to eat us maybe????
Clearly the answer is robot Nazis. Just look at it. It makes me smile and roll my eyes at the same time.
gaelic cowboy
04-27-2012, 17:53
Clearly the answer is robot Nazis. Just look at it. It makes me smile and roll my eyes at the same time.
mmm Robot Nazi's the only thing better would be Space Nazi's oh wait someone did it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-wOQLh2Zpw
Well maybe commie space nazi vampires v capitalist werewolf space zombies v robotic supermodels
InsaneApache
04-27-2012, 22:37
And don't forget the other "viral" clip, the fake TED talk from the future.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2BxH-xwc9M
He said that we don't know him. (sic)
He's Mike from Neighbours and I claim my £5.
New trailer, more squirmy aliens melting people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1byZkbNB3Jw
The facehugger "eggs" look manufactured, not laid, and the facehugger itself looks quite different. I wonder if this is the Mark I/Mod 0 version of the alien, or just the result of space jockey infestations. :inquisitive:
gaelic cowboy
05-02-2012, 13:05
The facehugger "eggs" look manufactured, not laid, and the facehugger itself looks quite different. I wonder if this is the Mark I/Mod 0 version of the alien, or just the result of space jockey infestations. :inquisitive:
there is some belief it's a space jockey thing that we mess with or have stolen.
If I remember correctly the cannon for the whole series is that the aliens take some of there structure/form from the host species therefore since we have only seen them infect mammals it folows the space jockey ones might be differ.
Vladimir
05-02-2012, 13:23
Well that sucks. It's just Alien 4, or is it 5 now?
Well that sucks. It's just Alien 4, or is it 5 now?
Alien 0. Since it's Ridley Scott directing, it should be a lot more like the first movie that the others.
If I remember correctly the cannon for the whole series is that the aliens take some of there structure/form from the host species therefore since we have only seen them infect mammals it folows the space jockey ones might be differ.
That's the way it has been portrayed in the existing movies. But in Alien, the space jockey was the host and the eggs/facehuggers were more organic looking. I'm thinking the ones in Prometheus are either the original (bioengineered by the space jockey race) or the jockeys got them from yet another infected race.
I suspect the name of the film (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus) is a bit of a spoiler.
Vladimir
05-02-2012, 15:46
Alien 0. Since it's Ridley Scott directing, it should be a lot more like the first movie that the others.
Still, sucks. Years ago the two Mars movies weren't very interesting and this is yet another Hollywood recycle. I really hoped this could help inspire people and rekindle the interest in exploration and not just serve as mindless entertainment. Maybe the Prussian robot should have told me differently.
gaelic cowboy
05-02-2012, 17:11
I suspect the name of the film (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus) is a bit of a spoiler.
Didnt I say so earlier without a doubt mans eyes are two big for his belly
Kralizec
05-02-2012, 18:40
I suspect the name of the film (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus) is a bit of a spoiler.
Thinking about a Frankenstein-esque plot, or some other angle?
I suspect the name of the film (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus) is a bit of a spoiler.
Maybe, but there are lots of ways to spin the myth in the context of the movie.
Obvious, men are men, Prometheus (the ship) is Prometheus, the space jockeys are Zeus, the alien is either fire, or Pandora in retribution for something else being taken.
Men are men, Prometheus (the ship) is Prometheus, the space jockeys are Zeus, the alien is fire taken from the ancient civilizations. In the myth, man had fire before Zeus took it away.
Men are men, the alien is fire, the space jockeys are Prometheus and will have their livers eaten (or chests burst) for giving man the gift.
Men are men, the alien is Pandora, the space jockeys are Zeus, David is Prometheus, fire is whatever that globe-thingy is.
My favorite, men are Pandora, the space jockeys are men, the alien is Zeus. :tongue:
PanzerJaeger
05-02-2012, 20:39
This is being directed by the same guy that put out the latest Robin Hood, right? My hopes, they are not high.
Vladimir
05-02-2012, 20:55
This is being directed by the same guy that put out the latest Robin Hood, right? My hopes, they are not high.
You got a problem with bow-wielding medieval gladiators?
PanzerJaeger
05-02-2012, 21:42
You got a problem with bow-wielding medieval gladiators?
The guy's obviously talented... Alien, Blade Runner, Black Hawk Down. A lot of people hate Gladiator but I thought it was a great movie. It may have been fantasy but it told a very well crafted story. It seems, though, that after Black Hawk Down he lost that special ability really good directors have at putting story elements together in a compelling way. Kingdom of Heaven could have been great, even with Orlando Bloom, but it felt disjointed and crammed into what seemed like a 3 hour screening time. American Gangster, too, felt like Scott bit off more content than he could sew together. There were lots of good bits and pieces in both movies, but they did not flow together in a coherent fashion. Robin Hood was just a bag of crap. I simply fear that Scott, like so many directors before him that have grown fat and happy on previous successes, is on a downward trend.
Papewaio
05-04-2012, 05:34
Maybe Peter isn't much of a technical guy, he comes across as more of a eviler Steve Jobs type. :tongue:
I'm hoping Scott is making this as suspense/horror film like the first, the action in the second film made it entertaining but emptier. The official trailer has that feel, but trailers can be deceiving.
I believe James Cameron did Aliens (Alien 2).
Kralizec
05-04-2012, 14:06
I remember seeing Alien (1) again about a year ago. What struck me the most is how obviously the alien is actually a guy in a suit, lol.
gaelic cowboy
05-04-2012, 14:50
I remember seeing Alien (1) again about a year ago. What struck me the most is how obviously the alien is actually a guy in a suit, lol.
Or how little action of any of description takes place.
And how long it takes before the audience is introduced to the creature.
Vladimir
05-04-2012, 15:01
Or how little action of any of description takes place.
And how long it takes before the audience is introduced to the creature.
That's what I loved about it though. The mystery and the delayed gratification. It has a more classic feel.
Maybe Peter isn't much of a technical guy, he comes across as more of a eviler Steve Jobs type. :tongue:
I'm hoping Scott is making this as suspense/horror film like the first, the action in the second film made it entertaining but emptier. The official trailer has that feel, but trailers can be deceiving. Big things have small beginnings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UEv03g51kU
Totally digging the music
Or how little action of any of description takes place.
And how long it takes before the audience is introduced to the creature.
Alien was intended as a suspense/horror movie. Cameron turned the series to the action genre with Aliens. Don't get me wrong, Aliens is a fun flick, but I preferred the first.
I remember seeing Alien (1) again about a year ago. What struck me the most is how obviously the alien is actually a guy in a suit, lol.
Well, it was 1979 after all. ~D
Alien was intended as a suspense/horror movie. Cameron turned the series to the action genre with Aliens. Don't get me wrong, Aliens is a fun flick, but I preferred the first.
Hohoho, ALien was more of an ode to the classics of the fifties, ALiens on the other hand was a thing of it's own. For the time it was much more groundbreaking than the original, anyone who was born 2 years before the original can tell you that
Fox confirms R Rating for Prometheus (http://www.deadline.com/2012/05/fox-confirms-r-rating-for-ridley-scotts-prometheus/). And there was much rejoicing!
Unless this is just so Fassbender can walk around naked again. Full frontal David, do not want!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwEtldZQNew&feature=player_embedded
Vladimir
05-17-2012, 18:09
What is "Classified Personnel?" The facial recognition software of the future is really slow.
Alien 0. Since it's Ridley Scott directing, it should be a lot more like the first movie that the others.
And that's why I have less than zero interest in. Alien is a crappy slasher movie that I can't even sit through.
And that's why I have less than zero interest in. Alien is a crappy slasher movie that I can't even sit through.
It has been copied too many times but it's a true classic. What I like about it is that they are just truckers in space, they behave like real humans. It scared the crap out of me when I was 12. Mommy warned me but I didn't listen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4gCtQo0FyU
owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww so pretty :sweetheart:
The more I hear about this movie the more hyped up I am.
Vladimir
05-22-2012, 15:52
And that's why I have less than zero interest in. Alien is a crappy slasher movie that I can't even sit through.
I liked Alien because it wasn't a slasher movie. More mystery and tension.
It has been copied too many times but it's a true classic. What I like about it is that they are just truckers in space, they behave like real humans. It scared the crap out of me when I was 12. Mommy warned me but I didn't listen
It came out 2 years before I was born. And by the time I could seek it out on my own it was horribly dated.
I liked Alien because it wasn't a slasher movie. More mystery and tension.
No it very much is. It follows all the slasher movie tropes to a tee.
By the time you saw it it had been cloned countless times. It's like calling Carpenter's Halloween unoriginal
Since the plot structure of Alien is incredibly derivative your right. BUT by the time I was say 15 I'd seen 15 films, maybe 5 in a theatre. And not a single one was a horror movie of any stretch. So the first time I would have seen the basic plot of a slasher movie would have been in a TV show episode.
And don't get me started on Carpenter. He deserves nothing but scorn for the Thing remake.
It's a prequel it it isn't half-bad, nowhere as good as the first of course but suitably disgusting. Total lack of tension though
Gah. Forgot that Carpenter's The Thing actually IS a remake
gaelic cowboy
05-23-2012, 10:49
It came out 2 years before I was born. And by the time I could seek it out on my own it was horribly dated.
I dont find that at all to be honest in fact I dont see anything in it that we would say looks old fashioned or dated.
No it very much is. It follows all the slasher movie tropes to a tee.
Actually it follows a whole range of tropes not just slasher movie style but that doesnt mean that it's bad because it follows them.
tibilicus
05-23-2012, 23:30
High hopes for this one. Trailers look epic.
Vladimir
05-24-2012, 13:17
High hopes for this one. Trailers look epic.
Which is another thing I'm worried about. Lots of promos. Looks like a Alien meets Independence Day.
Forgot that Carpenter's The Thing actually IS a remake
Sorta kinda not really. Both "The Thing" films are based on the novella Who Goes There? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Goes_There%3F) The 1950s version of The Thing is radically simplified, since they did not have the technology to show a shape-absorbing alien at a reasonable cost. John Carpenter's film was able to stick much more closely to the original novella, and benefits from it.
gaelic cowboy
05-24-2012, 16:58
Sorta kinda not really. Both "The Thing" films are based on the novella Who Goes There? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Goes_There%3F) The 1950s version of The Thing is radically simplified, since they did not have the technology to show a shape-absorbing alien at a reasonable cost. John Carpenter's film was able to stick much more closely to the original novella, and benefits from it.
Also John Carpenter's "The Thing" is a good example of a movie thats better than it's original book and also where a remake outstrips the original movie.
Sorta kinda not really. Both "The Thing" films are based on the novella Who Goes There? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Goes_There%3F) The 1950s version of The Thing is radically simplified, since they did not have the technology to show a shape-absorbing alien at a reasonable cost. John Carpenter's film was able to stick much more closely to the original novella, and benefits from it.
I know the story.
Said it before and will keep saying again, untill you do/did, you should read this.
http://www.amazon.com/House-Leaves-Mark-Z-Danielewski/dp/0375703764
I am kinda confident that I figured out what you should enjoy.
It's only a few euro/dollars on a iPad, printed version is really expensive
Actually it follows a whole range of tropes not just slasher movie style but that doesnt mean that it's bad because it follows them.
Unless of course you HATE that type of movie. :wink3: Because it insults your intelligence.
I do most of my pleasure reading on Das Kindle; downloading House of Leaves now. Can't ignore a recommendation like that.
I know the story.
Said it before and will keep saying again, untill you do/did, you should read this.
http://www.amazon.com/House-Leaves-Mark-Z-Danielewski/dp/0375703764
I am kinda confident that I figured out what you should enjoy.
It's only a few euro/dollars on a iPad, printed version is really expensive
tibilicus
05-24-2012, 23:21
Which is another thing I'm worried about. Lots of promos. Looks like a Alien meets Independence Day.
I wont dispute that but I think if you go in expecting a sci-fi of epic proportions and not an epic sc-fi you can prepare yourself to be pleasantly surprised. One thing is for certain, the cost of promotion for this film alone must be a lot. Even if it does suck I can't see it flopping at the box office.
gaelic cowboy
05-25-2012, 13:11
Unless of course you HATE that type of movie. :wink3: Because it insults your intelligence.
Tropes badly done can insult ones intelligence but they can and are often well done.
Example of bad sci-fi tropes are basically any of the six Star Wars movies.
Example of a good sci-fi tropes are Pitch Black
Both derivative movies but only one of them is any good
I do most of my pleasure reading on Das Kindle; downloading House of Leaves now. Can't ignore a recommendation like that.
Trust me I didn't steer you wrong, there is really nothing to not like. Part Lovecraft, part Blair Witch Project, and of course there is the book itself. You will know what I mean when you see it.
Vladimir
06-04-2012, 14:48
Saw Huntsman Saturday. Charlize did pretty good but no one was that great. Looking forward to this fairy tale too. Not sure what to think about Mad Max 4.
Man, just look at the quality of the effects!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIgNinx_G_U
scottishranger
06-09-2012, 23:46
Anybody else see it yesterday? I personally loved it. The suspense was killing me the whole movie, and I thought that the music was particularly well done. Well worth the cost of 3D in my opinion
Ibn-Khaldun
06-09-2012, 23:59
I liked the film visually but I found myself thinking that I personally would never collect such a team for myself! I mean.. why do they have to rush everywhere? Why do they have to touch everything? They flew 3 years and couldn't wait the next day? I mean, few days gathering information and stuff? I think I would get some grey hairs if I would be a leader of a group like that.
Saw it today, 3D IMAX. Pretty good, but there were a few plot holes that bugged me. Fassbender was superb though, and the acting overall was quality.
First time watching a 3D flick since the old red/blue glasses days. Prometheus doesn't mess with the usual 3D gimmicks, it's not necessary for the movie, but I thought Scott used it well with the shipboard computer display effects. I'd like to see it in 2D though, the 3D tends to hide stuff out of focus. The theatre had a 3D preview of Spiderman, looked terrible cinematically, very choppy.
Crazed Rabbit
06-13-2012, 07:12
I saw it and enjoyed it. A very good film.
CR
Sarmatian
06-16-2012, 08:31
Is this an actual Alien prequel?
Is this an actual Alien prequel?
Yes in a way, but there are no xenomorhs involved
Shaka_Khan
06-16-2012, 21:28
I liked the film visually but I found myself thinking that I personally would never collect such a team for myself! I mean.. why do they have to rush everywhere? Why do they have to touch everything? They flew 3 years and couldn't wait the next day? I mean, few days gathering information and stuff? I think I would get some grey hairs if I would be a leader of a group like that.
I was frustrated by that.
I wish more of them survived for the next sequel. All the Engineers look the same to me so the movie would be very bland if only two from the Prometheus survived. Actually, I think it's possible that some more of them survived. These characters suffered minor inflictions when compared to the other victims in the Alien series. Even a survivor in Prometheus suffered more than they did.
Ja'chyra
06-16-2012, 22:11
Am I the only one that wasn't impressed with the film?
It was ok but hardly great.
Just don't spoil anything, I was completely unaware of this movie and I have still no idea how it ties in with Alien. What I can get from the trailer is that death isn't all that pleasant whatever it's comming from. Seriously hyped up.
Saw it. Whatever your expectations are ... dial them down. WAY down. The film basically makes no sense.
Or as I said when my son asked me: Was it good?
Me: No.
Son: Was it bad good?
Me: No.
Son: So it was just bad?
Me: Worse, it was trying very hard to be good, and failing miserably.
PanzerJaeger
06-19-2012, 04:53
Yes, I enjoyed reading the explanations (http://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/uswn1/prometheus_everything_explained_and_analysed/) of the unanswered questions in the film far more than watching the actual film. Apparently there is a lot going on in the movie, but that rich story is betrayed by poor craftsmanship on every level. It was certainly no Alien.
Maybe there will be a directors cut movie studio's love chopping up theatre releases. Will be watching it anyway though. The biggest plottwist in Blade Runner wasn't even in the original movie go figure
Well, there's a lot of running around and things get set on fire. So it's got that going for it.
But simple concepts such as, say, keeping track of your away teams, or moving laterally when getting out of the way of a giant thing rolling toward you? Not so much.
And don't get me started on the oil. It has plot-dependent magical powers. Feh.
I am sure I can spend 1,5 hour of my life on it I am pretty sure I won't be bored, especially if it has the sinister feel and awesome music from the trailer. Now everything after the third (that I liked despite having terrible special effects compared to Aliens) deserves finger->face. I'll see, looking forward to it.
Maybe there will be a directors cut movie studio's love chopping up theatre releases. Will be watching it anyway though. The biggest plottwist in Blade Runner wasn't even in the original movie go figure
I thought about this, there seemed to be a couple places in the movie where it felt like I had gotten up to get a beer and missed a scene. The movie is 124 minutes long, I get the feeling that a few scenes were eliminated that shouldn't have been.
or moving laterally when getting out of the way of a giant thing rolling toward you? Not so much.
But this would deprive us of such PA genius (http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/06/13)!
Haven't seen it but wanna bet, I bet there was scene between them landing and going in directly as some complain here that was scratched.
Yes, I enjoyed reading the explanations (http://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/uswn1/prometheus_everything_explained_and_analysed/) of the unanswered questions in the film far more than watching the actual film. Apparently there is a lot going on in the movie, but that rich story is betrayed by poor craftsmanship on every level. It was certainly no Alien.
My favorite comments from that link:
crude_and_lewd: So you're telling me you wouldn't abandon two of your crew members trapped in an alien structure with signs of life on a planet that took you two years to reach that possibly contains the answers to the origin of man for a proposition for sex from Charlize?
eallan: That's the most believable part of the whole film.
:laugh4:
Spoiler-filled but hilariously accurate summary of the film here (http://m15m.livejournal.com/23209.html). My favorite bit:
SHAW: I still have questions! So many questions! Why did the Engineers make us and then change their minds? What did we do in the Significant Year of Our Lord to piss them off? If they were all albino and male, why are so many of us not male and not white? If they died of monsters and chestbursting, where did the resulting monsters go? Why did the primordial goo turn Fifield into a zombie but impregnate me with a squid? Was there an octopus in Charlie's family tree I need to know about? Why was there a big green crystal in the urn chamber that we never talked about again? Why was there a xenomorph mural when we have not seen the goo create anything remotely like a xenomorph? Why were the Engineers inviting us to the star system of their death warehouses in those cave paintings and not the planet they came from? Was it just like, "I swear if you kids don't behave I will turn this evolution around"? Why the hell did I ever think they were invitations?!
DAVID'S HEAD: Does it actually matter?
Red Letter Media does a wonderful (and NSFW) takedown. Warning, profanity. But very funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x1YuvUQFJ0
vBulletin® v3.7.1, Copyright ©2000-2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.