Rolf@Arab spring

[Fragony]

As if all torture and the ethnic cleansing of blacks in Libya wasn't enough Egypt accepts a really cool law that must be a godsend to people who just want their wive to really shut up. It's ok to have sex with your wive as long as she hasn't been dead for more than 6 hours. Even after 1 it's probably pretty cold to me but we don't have the temperatures Egypt has, 2 hours should be possible there in theory. But six? Oh crap you just got respect that if you can

lololol

[Fragony]

Oh I did it wrong, it's just proposed I tried too hard, but who knows what comes out of it.

lololol

[CountArach]

Link?

[Fragony]

Link?

Yes it's me don't worry didn't I save you countles times already

[Vladimir]

:dancinglock:

Make it stop. Please.

[Fragony]

:dancinglock:

Make it stop. Please.

It stopped it but t just isn't over. Technicaly

[CountArach]

Yes it's me don't worry didn't I save you countles times already
I'm hoping that is a Zelda reference.

Anyway Frag, you have to provide a link for this sort of stuff, or else I will be locking the thread.

[Fragony]

Oh lock i then, it's still hilarisch though

[gaelic cowboy]

Found summit on reuters interwebby site

Egypt to Allow Men to Have Sex with Dead Wives? (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/27/tagblogsfindlawcom2012-legallyweird-idUS13513392520120427)





By Stephanie Rabiner, Esq. at FindLaw.com

Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:03am EDT


Necrophilia may soon be legal in Egypt. No really, it's true.

The country's Islamist-dominated government has introduced a law that would allow a man to have sex with his wife for up to six hours after her death, the Daily Mail reports. Yes, after her death.

Some are calling it the "farewell intercourse law," but this blogger is just going to call it what it is -- gross. And thankfully, illegal if you happen to live in the U.S.

Egypt's dead sex law can apparently be traced to a 2011 statement made by cleric Zamzami Abdul Bari. He believes that marriage is valid even after death, and according to the Daily Mail, that both men and women should be able to have intercourse with a dead spouse.

Egypt's National Council for Women is against the farewell intercourse law, reports Al-Arabiya. They see it as another attack on women's rights. But it could also be characterized as an attack on human dignity.

Nearly all religions -- including Islam -- demand respect for the dead, Professor Carl Raschke recently told the Huffington Post. As a result, followers are expected to treat corpses in specific, often ritualistic ways.

This is likely one reason why necrophilia is prohibited in much of the United States. And in states where it is not, laws that aim to protect corpses generally prohibit such conduct. It's often illegal to disinter, desecrate or deface a corpse or grave without permission.

So please, don't go having sex with your wife -- or anyone else -- after she dies. Egypt's farewell intercourse law won't save you from prosecution.

Related Resources:

◦Egypt to Pass Law Allowing Husbands Sex Wih Dead Wives For 6 Hours After Death (The Inquisitr)
◦Thai Man Weds Dead Girlfriend (FindLaw's Legal Grounds)
◦Elderly Woman Disinterred Relatives - for Company (FindLaw's Legally Weird)

[Hax]

Don't lock it. I have some remarks to make that I really feel are important here but I need to leave, will be back tonight.

[Fragony]

As if I would ever lie to you

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I'm hoping that is a Zelda reference.

Anyway Frag, you have to provide a link for this sort of stuff, or else I will be locking the thread.

http://bit.ly/IWVKHo

[Ironside]

From what I can see, after fact checking it as true as everything Westboro church is saying=US law suggestions.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2012/0426/Egypt-necrophilia-law-Hooey-utter-hooey?cmpid=addthis_email#.T5nEqMQOQoo.email

[drone]

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2012/0426/Egypt-necrophilia-law-Hooey-utter-hooey?cmpid=addthis_email#.T5nEqMQOQoo.email
What? You mean the Daily Mail is wrong? Inconceivable!

[Sasaki Kojiro]

What? You mean the Daily Mail is wrong? Inconceivable!

May be more interesting than that:

http://volokh.com/2012/04/27/questions-about-whether-the-sex-with-dead-spouses-law-has-actually-been-proposed-in-egypt/

AllahPundit (Hot Air) (http://hotair.com/archives/2012/04/26/egyptian-parliament-considering-bill-legalizing-er-sex-with-spouse-after-death/), Andrew Sullivan (http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/04/we-all-hate-our-women-ctd-3.html), and Dan Murphy (Christian Science Monitor) (http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2012/0426/Egypt-necrophilia-law-Hooey-utter-hooey) question whether a bill allowing people to have sex with their dead spouses (for up to six hours after the death) was indeed proposed in the Egyptian Parliament. The story apparently began in the Al Ahram newspaper, and was then taken up by the Al Arabiya newspaper; AllahPundit suggests they are not to be trusted:

Al-Ahram is controlled by the Egyptian government, which I assume means it’s heavily influenced by the ruling military junta. And the junta, of course, is invested in discrediting the Islamists in order to defend its prerogatives against parliament’s growing power. (It’s worth noting too that Al-Arabiya, which picked up the story from Al-Ahram, is a Saudi outfit and the Saudis are mighty anxious about the idea of Islamist populists seizing power from sclerotic tyrannical regimes.)

AllahPundit counsels skepticism, but is not sure:


[N]one of this is to say the story isn’t true — the part about the marriage age being lowered is all too plausible — but it’s not hard to see why Mubarak allies might want to make something up or inflate something one of the fringier parliamentarians said in order to galvanize international opinion against the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafists. It is, however, hard to see why the MB would allow parliament to entertain a law like this at a moment when they’re busy gladhanding westerners to reassure them that the Brotherhood are “modern” Islamists who are worthy of foreign aid and trade deals. If this really is being kicked around by MPs, I’d bet it’s the Salafists who are pushing it. But we’ll see.


Sullivan and the Monitor seem to go further. I don’t know who’s right and who’s wrong, but thought I’d note the possibility that Al Ahram and Al Arabiya may not be accurate on this.

[Fragony]

We will see http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/04/25/210198.html

[Hax]

We actually talked about this in class this very day.

Al-Ahram is definitely wrong here. The article linked earlier was actually quite correct: a few years ago there was an apparently self-styled (important!) imam from Morocco by the name of Abd al-Bari Zamzami, from a relatively influential family of religious scholars in Morocco (not Egypt) who ruled that there is nothing in the shari‘a that forbids (note the wording) a man having sex with a woman a few hours before his death. He viewed this as a way for the man (I'm totally serious here) to eh..say farewell to his wife one more time.

Cue an intrepid reporter asking questions such as: "Can a woman have sex with her dead husband?" and (seriously): "If a man has four wives and if one of which dies and he immediately remarries, can he still legally have sex with her corpse?". Apparently, Zamzami didn't really know how to reply to this and was actually in something of a hilarious interview from what I heard.

Besides, crazy fatwas are declared all the time, especially since after Mubarak's fall, and they don't have to mean anything. On Facebook there are links going around of "the craziest fatwas of 2011", check this link (http://mikesright.wordpress.com/2012/01/02/al-arabiya-news-picks-the-most-stupid-fatwas-of-2011) for example.

[Strike For The South]

The nuance is never is good as the outrage :(

[Fragony]

The nuance is never is good as the outrage :(

The parlement actually discussing necrophilae more then makes up, or is it down, for ehm...... it, though. I don't think nuance is always good. Once heard eyeballs cool down faster, they are like binballs

[Strike For The South]

Please learn how to write in a forigen language

If you wanted to use Dutch you should have never of left New York

[Fragony]

P never of left New York

OK heh

[Vuk]

Please learn how to write in a forigen language

If you wanted to use Dutch you should have never of left New York

Dude, you did not even spell foreign correctly! You are bitching at him to use better English, when it is not his primary language, even though your English is worse, and English is your primary language! Everyone makes simple grammatical mistakes or doesn't care enough to make their sentences perfect (like that beautiful run-on of mine just earlier), but they at least try to make them understandable. I spend more time trying to decipher your massacre of the English language than I actually do responding to you. Those who live in glass houses shouldn't criticize other people's English. ~;)

[Strike For The South]

Dude, you did not even spell foreign correctly! You are bitching at him to use better English, when it is not his primary language, even though your English is worse, and English is your primary language! Everyone makes simple grammatical mistakes or doesn't care enough to make their sentences perfect (like that beautiful run-on of mine just earlier), but they at least try to make them understandable. I spend more time trying to decipher your massacre of the English language than I actually do responding to you. Those who live in glass houses shouldn't criticize other people's English. ~;)

Don't get between me and the tulip

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[Fragony]

Agreed, and as long as Strike is breathing I don't find it all that perverse.

[Strike For The South]

Ik hou van je.

[Vuk]

-snip-

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[Vuk]

Ik hou van je.

I didn't know he was your cousin...

[Strike For The South]

-snip-

[Vuk]

-snip-

[Fragony]

Ik hou van je.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkX7ga_uR-U

[Strike For The South]

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[Vuk]

Don't get between me and the tulip

You know what I was referring too.

[Strike For The South]

You know what I was referring too.

LOL calling Fragony a "tulip" is a slur?

Am I about to get stripped of my modship?

[Vuk]

LOL calling Fragony a "tulip" is a slur?

Am I about to get stripped of my modship?

No, it is not a slur. Neither is limey, patty, or macaroni.

[a completely inoffensive name]

No, it is not a slur. Neither is limey, patty, or macaroni.

So you just admitted you pulled your accusation out of your ***?

When are you joining the marines again?

[Strike For The South]

No, it is not a slur. Neither is limey, patty, or macaroni.

If this is an attempent to be clever, macaorni should be removed and replaced with dago, wop, or guniea

[Vuk]

If this is an attempent to be clever, macaorni should be removed and replaced with dago, wop, or guniea

Trust me Strike, as someone with a half Sicilian mother, I have heard them all. And yes, macaroni and grease ball are two very common ones.

[Vuk]

So you just admitted you pulled your accusation out of your ***?


Don't you know sarcasm when you hear it, or is your brain so far up...in the clouds that it went right over your head.

[Greyblades]

Don't you know sarcasm when you hear it, or is your brain so far up...in the clouds that it went right over your head.

Sarcasm doesnt translate well through text. That's why I usually put a "(!)" after a sarcastic sentance.

[Strike For The South]

Trust me Strike, as someone with a half Sicilian mother, I have heard them all. And yes, macaroni and grease ball are two very common ones.

So not only are you a fool, you also surround yourself with them.

BULLY!

[Greyblades]

Um... In a way he's kinda surrounded himself with us.

[Strike For The South]

Um... In a way he's kinda surrounded himself with us.

The fact he found his way here is an unfrotunate accident.

Wargames tend to bring in a few stragglers

[Noncommunist]

According to this, that law was some rumor.

http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/04/27/middle_east_coverage_is_full_of_lies

[Beskar]

Things have cleared off-topic.

If you want to discuss this, feel free to remake the topic citing sources in the opening post, presented with an argument.