View Full Version : Small Mafia Game Another Shade of Blood [Concluded]
The other games have gotten succificiently small enough in player size so that I can put mine in sign ups.
Rules:
•24 hour days and 24 hour night phases. Phases may be extended if needed and if I require.
•You can contribute after death, can't use private offthread info though, can't PM people, etc. However, you may continue to scumhunt.
•You may not post your role PM.
•No screenshots, etc.
•You may talk to players outside the thread.
•You will vote for players you want lynched during the day, using the format, Vote: Visorslash. Votes must be in bold to count. If you wish to unvote, simply: Unvote; Vote: ATPG. You don't need to do a semicolon, I just think it looks nice.
•If you are replaced or WOG killed, please do not post in the thread anymore unless it is an apology. If you are replaced by choice, please don't comment in the game.
•If you think you won't be around during the night phase to give your night action, you can always PM me your night actions in advance.
•Votes that end in a tie, will result in a duel.
•No lynch and Abstain are not allowed.
•Do not edit your posts. If you want to fix a grammar mistake or fix tags, that's fine, but don't alter your content. If you have another thought, just double post.
•Other stuff may happen. Don't be scared.
•Also, there is to be no lurking. If you miss three day phases in a row or 4 in total with any reasonable excuse or informing me why you will be WoG'ed. No exceptions.
•Have fun. This is not an option . If you don't think you'll have fun with this game... don't join it. Nor if you feel you won't be able to participate.
•Roles will not be revealed on death.
Looking for seventeen players. Reserves are welcome.
Players: 17/17
1. BSmith
2. LazyMcCrow
3. Arjos
4. Montmorency
5. Rickinator9
6. DaveShack
7. Autolycus
8. Atheotes
9. Zaccino
10. Nightbringer
11. SalmonSoil
12. Alsark
13. Jarema
14. edse
15. Ishmael
16. Askthepizzaguy
17. Chaotix
Put me down as a reserve please.
rickinator9
05-10-2012, 12:46
I will just pin this thread to my favorites.
Askthepizzaguy
05-10-2012, 12:47
Reserve / Active if you can't get 17.
In and intrigued about the "little twist" to be disclosed :)
LazyMcCrow
05-10-2012, 12:50
Yes please :2thumbsup:
•Roles will not be revealed on death.
do you mean aligment too?
Montmorency
05-10-2012, 14:31
About time.
Role and alignment will not be revealed on death.
DaveShack
05-10-2012, 16:26
In.
rickinator9
05-10-2012, 17:41
I will just pin this thread to my favorites.
I'm in
FoS: ricki
Quoting himself XD
Just joking, saw Visor didn't add you, but hey, he's intoxicated most of the time ^^
Reserve/Replacement as usual. :bow:
autolycus
05-10-2012, 23:37
You can count me in.
atheotes
05-11-2012, 07:01
Count me In
DIdn't think I'd have to send invitations for this. Regardless...
Nightbringer
05-13-2012, 03:21
I'll throw my lot IN
SalmonSoil
05-13-2012, 03:33
ininininininin
I'll go ahead and join! /in
I was not so sure because I do not like no reveals too much, but seeing that I was killed in one other game...
in
Do the reserves mind joining in if I get one more player?
Of course not, that's why I'm here :yes:.
Great. I've already done a small intro text, now to randomise roles and send them out.
A moderately well-dressed woman is shown on the screen, talking about a recent explosion that happened in the main street of the small town, killing none, but injuring plenty and causing havoc. The man on the couch coughs loudly as the smoke infiltrates his lungs, a familiar feeling, but not one he had ever become accustomed to. He smiled to himself. He was going to enjoy this. He’d have to play it a little differently this time but he was confident that he would have more fun this time. It was time for round two.
The two men were talking in hushed voices amongst their cramped quarters in a quiet apartment block above the local Italian restaurant. They were discussing the strategy for the takeover of the local town. Their boss wanted all the businesses in town under the Clemenza name, and he would kill to get it. The men argued over the locations and feasibilities of each position and strategy, and escape routes. This would be important, especially because if they failed, they would be hunted down and killed and if they died, then their families would too. Both men knew they had to succeed.
A doctor’s coat is hung on the wall, as the man slips off the responsibilities of his new job and slips into the kitchen, preparing to cook himself spaghetti. He places his cane against the bench and hobbles over to the cupboard. The twitch of pain reminded of his ordeal, his struggle. He almost didn’t make it. His thoughts often drifted back to those days, he didn’t know what happened to his attacker, but he did know that his town was destroyed. He remembered crawling along that road, for hours, long painstaking hours, each step causing him terrible pain. He remembered the cold of night, and the burn of the sun. The makeshift tourniquet. The sound of the car and that feeling of dread seeping over him. He was lucky, that it was not his killer. Well, at least he didn’t think so.
He remembered walking into the middle of the road and holding the gun at the lady as she slowed. She screamed, loudly. He mumbled words to her, he can’t remember them now. All he remembers is throwing the gun away and collapsing. He awoke in a hospital, barely alive. The events of his life had shaped him to be who he was; he had to take a stand against people like his attacker. He would become a doctor and he would make up for his failings.
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Welcome to Another Shade of Blood, somewhat of a sequel to A History of Violence.
The game contains a serial killer, two mafia and a doctor. The twist is that the serial killer may choose what nights his victim dies.
Time:
The phase ends at 7am Australian Eastern Standard Time. So approximately 31 hours and 20 minutes from this post.
Alive 17/17:
1. BSmith
2. LazyMcCrow
3. Arjos
4. Montmorency
5. Rickinator9
6. DaveShack
7. Autolycus
8. Atheotes
9. Zaccino
10. Nightbringer
11. SalmonSoil
12. Alsark
13. Jarema
14. edse
15. Ishmael
16. Askthepizzaguy
17. Chaotix
Day One has begun, you may begin to vote and discuss as you wish.
Montmorency
05-15-2012, 17:18
Eager, aren't we?
Vote: edse
The game contains a serial killer, two mafia and a doctor. The twist is that the serial killer may choose what nights his victim dies.
This basically means that I can specify delay to my kills. All of you will die just when the game seems won.
Strange of Visor to forget the PM, though...
Vote: ATPG
This is a sequel eh? ATPG the Vendetta! XD
Monty are you freud-claiming SK? :D
This basically means that I can specify delay to my kills. All of you will die just when the game seems won.
Strange of Visor to forget the PM, though...
Not voting for you yet, because this feels too anti-climatic to be real, right? :P
Askthepizzaguy
05-15-2012, 18:07
Vote: Montmorency
Let's make this the THIRD time you've been lynched day one as scum this year, scummy mcscumbag.
It's D1, but really can't overlook this...
Unvote; Vote: Montmorency
Askthepizzaguy
05-15-2012, 19:12
I promise I'm not throwing him under the bus. I'd never do that this early in a game..............................................
Let's play devil's advocate.
Vote: Askthepizzaguy
rickinator9
05-15-2012, 20:16
Vote: Askthepizzaguy, last one I ate was one of those disgusting ones you put in your freezer.
autolycus
05-15-2012, 21:21
Let's throw out another candidate. vote:zaccino.
Montmorency
05-15-2012, 21:37
Let's make this the THIRD time you've been lynched day one as scum this year, scummy mcscumbag.
When was the second time?
Vote: Jarrema
For perpetuating the mean-spirited notion to lynch Montmorency on Day 1 yet again past a harmless joke and into an actual goal.
SalmonSoil
05-16-2012, 03:48
Agreed, this lynch is yucky.
vote: Jarema
atheotes
05-16-2012, 06:37
Vote: Arjos - you seem very eager to join a bandwagon.
This basically means that I can specify delay to my kills. All of you will die just when the game seems won.
Strange of Visor to forget the PM, though...
Sorry, I'll forward that to you.
And vote: atheotes
Strange of Visor to forget the PM, though...
I do not understand how I can miss this part at the first time.
Thank you, Ishmael, for quoting it - now I seen that.
Unvote; vote: ATPG. Trying to make a case out of nothing, Pizza?
Askthepizzaguy
05-16-2012, 10:48
Since when did I even make a "case"?
Failwagon is fail. Failreason is fail. Failtown is fail.
Askthepizzaguy
05-16-2012, 10:58
Vote: Arjos - you seem very eager to join a bandwagon.
Blows raspberries at atheotes
Surely you jest, if this is a serious vote with serious reasoning.
The mafia are going out of their way to join a bandwagon? Why? It's so much easier to make a random do-nothing vote that lynches no one.
Unvote, vote: Atheotes
Scummier than Monty.
LazyMcCrow
05-16-2012, 11:12
Let's throw out another candidate. vote:zaccino.
Throw out while you eat popcorn and snicker?
vote: autolycus
vote: Jarema. Monty's joke post was pretty obvious even without the PM mention.
For me it wasn't. Stupid me.
atheotes
05-16-2012, 19:16
OMGUS! Unvote; vote: ATPG
Nightbringer
05-17-2012, 00:28
oh dear, too much chaos
vote:Nightbringer
I'm not taking sides in this mess just yet.
oh dear, too much chaos
vote:Nightbringer
I'm not taking sides in this mess just yet.
http://zipmeme.com/uploads/generated/g1337216543696628377.jpg
Vote: Jarema
His vote came off as an opportunistic jump on a bandwagon. Then again, one could say my vote would come off the same way.
The twist is that the serial killer may choose what nights his victim dies.
Hm... did 'ya happen to get that idea from the round I showed you where I was Kira and could kill people whenever I wanted to (for those who are in the Death Note Mafia round at TWC, no, I don't mean that round - I wasn't Kira there). It's doubtful somebody will pull it off as epically as I did ;)
OMGUS! Unvote; vote: ATPG
Round ended at this vote. Tallying.
2 Montmorency (Edse, Arjos)
1 Edse (Montmorency)
3 ATPG (Rickinator9, Jarema, atheotes)
1 Zack (Autolycus)
2 Jarema (Zack, SalmonSoil)
1 Arjos (BSmith)
3 atheotes (Ishmael, ATPG, Chaotix)
1 Autolycus (LazyMcCrow)
Not voting: Alsark, DaveShack, Nightbringer
Tied vote between ATPG and Atheotes.
It's duellin' time!
Vote: Jarema
His vote came off as an opportunistic jump on a bandwagon. Then again, one could say my vote would come off the same way.
Hm... did 'ya happen to get that idea from the round I showed you where I was Kira and could kill people whenever I wanted to (for those who are in the Death Note Mafia round at TWC, no, I don't mean that round - I wasn't Kira there). It's doubtful somebody will pull it off as epically as I did ;)
And yes, I did tell you I would be stealing that mechanic.
Night will end at around 9pm tomorrow, so 30 hours and 40 minutes. From then on it will be straight 24 hour cycles as best as I can make it.
Askthepizzaguy
05-17-2012, 05:39
I wouldn't have to rely on luck to kill a scumbag if there wasn't a failwagon on me.
Montmorency
05-17-2012, 05:53
Apologies, dear friend, but in my line of work I do have to make examples out of those who threaten me.
It's nothing personal; it's just business. :smoking:
Askthepizzaguy
05-17-2012, 05:59
Apologies, dear friend, but in my line of work I do have to make examples out of those who threaten me.
It's nothing personal; it's just business. :smoking:
You're not even voting for me. And didn't your mother ever tell you smoking is bad for you?
*pulls out cigarette, stomps on it*
See that? That's your mafia career.
Montmorency
05-17-2012, 06:01
I'm a subtle man. I let my underlings do the work for me.
Incidentally, Edse is one of my underlings.
I thought you were the serial killer? Seriously Montmorency, keep your story consistent.
Internet is back up, so results are in and you'll get a day writeup soon enough.
After a lengthy discussion, Atheotes and Askthepizzaguy were ties for the lynch vote. As was the usual, ties were settled by duelling, for the entertainment of the crowd. The townsfolk gathered around the town square, and the opponents were offered a choice of three weapons. After they were outfitted, they were led into the centre. The mayor blew a whistle to announce the beginning of the battle.
Atheotes walked out confidently, the size of his weapon, a screwdriver, meant nothing to him. Askthepizzaguy was still getting used to the feel of his weapon. He had no idea what a “cricket bat” was, nor its use. It did however, look like it could bludgeon someone to death. ATPG charged in swinging wildy. His only intention was to beat atheotes down as quick as possible. Atheotes backed away carefully, before his arm dashed out and sliced ATPG’s arm, however it wasn’t deep at all, and simply made ATPG back off a bit. Atheotes wouldn’t get another easy shot like that.
“That’s simply not cricket!” he protested loudly.
This garnered a few stunned responses from the crowd, while the Australians started to laugh heartily. Atheotes began an advance this time, striking quickly as ATPG dodged the blows. He began a little fightback of his own, and a well timed blow knocked the screwdriver out of his opponents hand. Atheotes scrambled over towards it, clutching his hand.
“Marvellous stuff that!” one of the spectators yelled out.
ATPG charged after atheotes and they began a flurry of blows, with ATPG gaining the advantage with the heavier weapon. Eventually he backed him up to a wall Atheotes fought desperately against the rain of blows incoming on his person. He punched ATPG in the face, and rolled out of the way of the retaliation punch. ATPG growled and charged at Atheotes, who had turned around and was facing ATPG. He smiled and threw the screwdriver at ATPG, the blade going into his eye, thrown much faster then he could react. He fell to his knees, dead before he hit the ground. The crowd was in a shocked silence at the sudden death. Atheotes looked around.
“Howzat?”
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Askthepizzaguy has been lynched.
Round ended at this vote. Tallying.
2 Montmorency (Edse, Arjos)
1 Edse (Montmorency)
3 ATPG (Rickinator9, Jarema, atheotes)
1 Zack (Autolycus)
2 Jarema (Zack, SalmonSoil)
1 Arjos (BSmith)
3 atheotes (Ishmael, ATPG, Chaotix)
1 Autolycus (LazyMcCrow)
Not voting: Alsark, DaveShack, Nightbringer
Tied vote between ATPG and Atheotes.
It's duellin' time!
Uh... was I vote-blocked or something?
Uh... was I vote-blocked or something?
AHHH!!!
Mistrial! Inside job! Conspiracy!
Just what did they give you Visor? Who is the LAW? XD
LazyMcCrow
05-17-2012, 12:35
Shame we missed out on a tasty three-way. (Nightbringer voted for himself as well) :bow:
Uh... was I vote-blocked or something?
No, your vote was after the deadline.
Arjos: I was clean bowled.
:laugh4:
Bravo Visorslash. ATPG goes the way of Queensland in this year's State of Origin (hey, I can dream).
EDIT: Huh, double post. I wonder how that happened.
:laugh4:
Bravo Visorslash. ATPG goes the way of Queensland in this year's State of Origin (hey, I can dream).
:stare: Not likely, considering your poor performance in... how many years running? :beam:
No, your vote was after the deadline.
Arjos: I was clean bowled.
Ah, okay.
atheotes
05-18-2012, 06:10
“Howzat?”
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Askthepizzaguy has been lynched.
Caught dead in front of middle!
Askthepizzaguy
05-18-2012, 06:33
No dead mafioso here guys. You never can get me when I'm scum, but when I'm town.... bulls-eye on my back.
Montmorency
05-18-2012, 06:53
Not when you're town, but when you challenge me.
Let this be a lesson to would-be do-gooders.
Chaotix decided to finish another chapter of the book he was reading that night, he was glad to have tomorrow off. As he lay in bed, a gun was being set up on the roof across from his apartment. After a short while, the light in Chaotix’s room went out and after a few minutes waiting to ensure he was indeed sleeping, it began to open fire. Bullets sprayed out of the machine at a rapid rate, creating hundreds of little holes. Chaotix was not dead however and began to run to the fire escape, dodging more bullets.
Chaotix made it to the fire escape and began to climb down. However, he did not make it, as his descent was stopped due to the fire escape being broken. Cursing, he began to climb up it, onto the roof. He made it to the top and saw a gunman firing at his house. When he stopped to reload, Chaotix ran across his roof as fast as he could, and soon enough the bullets began to chase him, getting closer and closer, as was the end of the roofing. He made it to the end and tried to stop, but skidded off the wet tiles, falling onto the cement below.
He laid there with terrible pain for a few minutes, until his vision blacked out. He heard footsteps approaching, and he turned in the direction of the sound. Then nothing, as a bullet put him out of misery.
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Chaotix has been killed.
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Time:
The phase ends at 9pm Australian Eastern Standard Time. So approximately 24 hours and 45 minutes from this post.
Alive 15/17:
1. BSmith
2. LazyMcCrow
3. Arjos
4. Montmorency
5. Rickinator9
6. DaveShack
7. Autolycus
8. Atheotes
9. Zaccino
10. Nightbringer
11. SalmonSoil
12. Alsark
13. Jarema
14. edse
15. Ishmael
Dead 2/17:
16. Askthepizzaguy, killed by duel D1.
17. Chaotix, killed N1.
So either the doctor made a successful save last night or the mafia/serial killer forgot to send in their kill. OR AskThePizzaGuy was the serial killer.
I think I'll keep recast my vote from yesterday since I made it too late last time.
Vote: Jarema
LazyMcCrow
05-18-2012, 11:47
vote: Nightbringer
vote: Nightbringer
Why? Only because he voted for himself?
Vote: DaveShack
Where are you?
LazyMcCrow
05-18-2012, 13:02
Why? Only because he voted for himself?
I didn't like it yesterday and still don't like it today. Nightbringers' weird self-vote apropos of nothing yesterday is the only thing right now that's stopping me voting for you.
Either Visor made a mistake with the vote tally for my vote, or there is some funny business going on behind the scenes. If there is funny business going on, then Jarema was the direct beneficiary of said funny business, as he got out of the lead for the tie, which tells me someone is trying to protect him from being lynched.
vote: Jarema until someone can give me a good reason not to.
atheotes
05-18-2012, 14:56
Either Visor made a mistake with the vote tally for my vote, or there is some funny business going on behind the scenes. If there is funny business going on, then Jarema was the direct beneficiary of said funny business, as he got out of the lead for the tie, which tells me someone is trying to protect him from being lynched.
vote: Jarema until someone can give me a good reason not to.
Whoa, i didnt even notice that till you called it out! that is strange...i thought we had only 2 mafia, a SK and a doctor. a vote-changing ability - do we have another role? is it a mafia power? or is it the doctors way of protection?
Not sure if we can pin it on jarema though...
atheotes
05-18-2012, 15:00
Vote: Arjos
autolycus
05-18-2012, 17:04
vote:alsark No vote yesterday, only one kill last night, could be connected.
Apologies, dear friend, but in my line of work I do have to make examples out of those who threaten me.
It's nothing personal; it's just business. :smoking:
vote: Montmorency
Montmorency
05-18-2012, 20:45
Vote: autolycus
I have a plan, most assuredly.
rickinator9
05-18-2012, 21:18
Vote: Daveshack, being inactive doesn't help us much.
Vote: rickinator9
Voting inactives doesn't help us much.
SalmonSoil
05-18-2012, 22:29
vote: Nightbringer
vote:alsark No vote yesterday, only one kill last night, could be connected.
My vote was only barely late, only due to a combination of Diablo III and not realizing the round had started. So technically I voted, it just didn't count because I was late. I was around during the night phase, so I'm not sure how you can even connect those two, especially considering I even posted during the night phase. So could you clarify what you meant?
Apologies BSmith, I screwed up there.
Nightbringer
05-19-2012, 05:12
vote: Nightbringer
vote:salmonsoil
because OMGUS
I just notice that I forgot to unvote.
Therefore, unvote; vote: Montmorency
Tally:
2 Jarema (Alsark, BSmith)
2 Nightbringer (Lazy, SalmonSoil)
1 Alsark (Autolycus)
2 DaveShack (Arjos, rickinator9)
1 Arjos (Atheotes)
2 Montmorency (Edse, Jarema)
1 Autolycus (Montmorency)
1 Rickinator9 (Zack)
1 Edse (Ishmael)
1 SalmonSoil (Nightbringer)
Not voting: DaveShack
Duels can may result in one or more people dying. Whatever outcome that has at least one person dying is the outcome chosen. So if you all tie, then it's a redraw. So any number of people may die in a duel if there is more then 2 combatants.
Eg. 3 people duel, 2 people max can die. 4 people duel, 3 can die. Or 1 can die, or 2. If no die, there is a redraw. Understand?
Montmorency
05-19-2012, 10:11
Ah! A surprise!
I haven't participated in an unregulated deathmatch since my enforcer days. I don't like to get my hands dirty, but I suppose it's time to show you kids how its done.
Unvote; Vote: edse
Let's up the ante: 5 meatbags!
This is battle royale: last man standing walks away.
Well, fellows - are you man enough? Do you have the guts?
Do you think you have what it takes to be a contender?
Wow. A 5 way tie. Sending PM's out now...
Okay, this is going to be very different. This may also take 24 hours to take full effect. So bear with me.
Gonna lawlz if four people die.
Montmorency
05-19-2012, 13:40
:on_glasses:
M drunk as **** :9. I. Mat post reakgemadasp. Don't worry. They will be up ASAP. Or shamed rr
LazyMcCrow
05-19-2012, 16:44
Gonna lawlz if four people die.
Are you trying to sound scummy?
M drunk as **** :9. I. Mat post reakgemadasp. Don't worry. They will be up ASAP. Or shamed rr
Oh, I can't wait for the writeup on his one :2thumbsup:
Montmorency
05-19-2012, 16:47
Wait, so you're saying my choices are valid?
I have a bad feeling about this...
Are you trying to sound scummy?
You don't think it would be funny? Not even a little? I've never seen four people die all at once in a mafia round before.
Are you trying to sound scummy?
Oh, I can't wait for the writeup on his one :2thumbsup:
4 people may die, 1 person may die. It depends.
And I'm not doing a drunk writeup, no-one will know who died. :tongue:
rickinator9
05-20-2012, 04:03
4 people may die, 1 person may die. It depends.
And I'm not doing a drunk writeup, no-one will know who died. :tongue:
Wow, you sober up fast!
Wow, you sober up fast!
Well, I got drunk at around 1am. Went to bed around 2. Woke up at around 8. Then decided bed was pretty comfortable, and stayed there for a while.
Though I don't get hangovers from alcohol, which is pretty neat.
In an effort to make this as fair as possible, the night won't actually be starting until 9pm tonight, and you will get the 24 hours from that.
Sorry for the delay, but you guys DID choose to have a five way tie.
Anything less than three corpses and I'll feel offended XD
Player Attack Defense Target Win Draw Lose
Monty Paper Paper Himself 0 1 2
Edse Scissors Scissors Monty 1 0 0
Jarrema Scissors Scissors Monty 1 1 0
Nightbringer Rock Paper DaveShack 0 0 1
DaveShack RNG - scissors RNG - paper RNG - jarema 1 1 0
Losers:
Monty
Nightbringer.
Monty and Nightbringer have been lynched.
24 hours for night, orders in. Writeup in a few hours.
Poor Monty, he would have been the only survivor if he'd chose rock-rock.
DaveShack
05-20-2012, 19:49
Vote: DaveShack
Where are you?
I took my son camping. It was great, and I see the RNG was kind.
LazyMcCrow
05-20-2012, 19:51
Though I don't get hangovers from alcohol, which is pretty neat.
Don't worry - Age will ruin that for you. How come Nightbringer died?
Montmorency
05-20-2012, 20:38
rgh! The louses teamed up against me!
You broke the oath, Edse...
Nightbringer
05-21-2012, 06:38
indeed, it seems as if I only failed not he attack, and was not attacked myself
Montmorency
05-21-2012, 06:45
I had -2 points. You had -1.
The rest had 1.
:yes:
Now I wish I'd contacted you to form an alliance against those schemers!
Rickinator has died. I'm doing both writeups now, so it might take a bit.
Day 3 starts now. 24 hours as usual.
Day 2 writeup:
5 people gathered in the circle, each with sweat pouring down their face. A 5 way tie, and no-one knew how to decide it. Edse, Jarema, Montmorency, Nightbringer and DaveShack gathered in a circle. The announcer prepared the microphone, and began announcing the details of the competition. Each player would choose a person to attack and whether rock, paper or scissors were chosen, as well as a defense against attacks.
"First up, Monty!"
Monty looked at the others, they were studying each other hard. He seemed to come to a decision and approached the announcer and whispered into his ear his decision. Edse followed, then Jarema, Nightbringer and Jarema. They reconvened in the circle, each sweating profusely as this decision could seal their fate. Edse began to point towards Monty, his hand slowly changing into the sign of scissors. Monty paled visibly. Jarema also approached Monty with the same sign, with a nervous laugh. Monty opened his hand in shock at himself. "Why didn't I listen? Rock, faithful rock, where art thou?" Edse and Jarrema charged Monty and began to turn him into a bloody pulp.
Nightbringer however, decided to take on DaveShack. DaveShack was barely present, he was drunk out of his mind. He could barely walk straight. Nightbringer, confident approached with rock. DaveShack grinned and laughed loudly. Nightbringer's smile began to fade. DaveShack slammed down paper, and Nightbringer fell to his knees. A powerful blow indeed. DaveShack tackled Nightbringer and choked him to death.
In the end the survivors were taken back, their clothes are little worse for wear after all the blood.
Night 3 writeup:
Rickinator decided to have a night in on the couch, he didn't feel it was particularly smart to leave the safety of his home. He was watching the television, drinking cheap beer when he heard the beeping. Remembering he put his dinner in the microwave, he got up to check it, but to his surprise his dinner was still cooking. Shaking his head, he walked back to the couch, well he did before he was interrupted by more beeping. He stopped, and followed the sound, which led to the door. Alcohol decided that this could only be a good thing, so Rickinator approached the door with a smile, opening it to see nothing.
Frowning he looked around, and finally down, to see a large package with wires wrapped around it and a timer. He looked closer and saw a sign saying: "There is a gun trained on you. Enjoy your last night alive."
"WAIT!" Rickinator yelled and dodged to the side as a bullet flew past him. "LET ME FINISH MY BEERS!"
Silence.
"I've only got 10 minutes to live anyway, what's the harm?"
Silence.
He walked back inside, collected his 24 pack and his favourite chair and put them on the verandah. He started drinking, remembering the good times in life. His girlfriend would miss him probably, but that didn't matter now. All that mattered was that he was enjoying his final moments with his faithful friend booze. He died with a smile on his face, as his body was ripped to shreds by the bomb.
rickinator9
05-21-2012, 15:43
Aww, what?! Guess my other me does drink alcohol.
LazyMcCrow
05-21-2012, 16:15
vote: Jarema
vote: edse. Jarema is still high on my list as well. Do you guys care to give some reasoning behind your votes?
(Lazy, it would do you some good to give some reasoning as well)
I voted because he voted for me without specifying any reason
Vote: BSmith for being bureaucratic!
:laugh4: At least you gave a reason. :whip:
vote: edse. Jarema is still high on my list as well. Do you guys care to give some reasoning behind your votes?
(Lazy, it would do you some good to give some reasoning as well)
I voted him because he took an easy option early and without giving a reason so when someone asks him to give a reason he can do it and it sounds reasonable and everybody will follow on that so he is safe.
LazyMcCrow
05-21-2012, 19:47
I voted him because he took an easy option early and without giving a reason so when someone asks him to give a reason he can do it and it sounds reasonable and everybody will follow on that so he is safe.
That's pretty twisty. Why would you say that voting Jarema is an 'easy option' edse?
I voted Jarema because he has made a scummy as hell vote day one and would have topped my list if it hadn't been Nightbringer's weird self-vote. Actually Jaremas OMGUS vote on me seems like the least scummy thing he has posted so far, so I'm not sure now.
SalmonSoil
05-21-2012, 22:27
Yeah I don't like Edse's vote.
Therefore vote: Edse
Okay :rolleyes:
The rolling of the eyes is the mark of the scum.
DaveShack
05-22-2012, 03:49
Vote: Salmonsoil on the wagon.
atheotes
05-22-2012, 07:03
Thanks for clearing on the mistake Visor.
I am going to continue with Vote:Arjos
LazyMcCrow
05-22-2012, 09:53
vote: edse. Jarema is still high on my list as well. Do you guys care to give some reasoning behind your votes?
(Lazy, it would do you some good to give some reasoning as well)
et tu BSmith?
et tu BSmith?
I thought it was clear I was voting for him based on his lack of reason?
1 Arjos (Atheotes)
1 SalmonSoil (DaveShack)
3 Edse (BSmith, Zack, SalmonSoil)
1 BSmith (Arjos)
2 Lazy (Jarema, Edse)
1 Jarema (Lazy)
Edse has died. 24 hours for night.
*Stupid computer killed my post*
-------------------------------------------
Edse was marched onto the podium. He was accused of being a killer and massacring the town. He laughed at the accusations, which only served for the town to get behind them more. "For your crimes, you will be sentenced to fight with the most dangerous fighter in the world. Kangaroo Jack! If you win, freedom is yours."
Edse was surprised at this, but any chance for freedom was one he was going to take. He was ushered into the makeshift ring and he stood there waiting for his 'opponent'. A brown-skinned kangaroo was ushered into the ring, it had a green cape and boxing gloves. Edse laughed at the sight. The Kangaroo picked up on his laughter and raised its head to look at Edse. His laughter stopped as the kangaroo put its gloves together and began to walk towards him. Edse began to jump on his feet, all he had to do was get behind it and break its neck. Easy. It's a stupid animal.
As the kangaroo approached Edse, he started backing away, trying to cicle the Kangaroo. It wasn't a world renowned kangaroo for nothing though, and saw what he was trying to do. It broke into a run and began to chase Edse around the ring. Edse yelped in surprise and began to run. It was a comical sight for those watching as Edse ran away from the Kangaroo. It pounced, pushing Edse to the ground. Edse threw an elbow out and struck it in the face. He tried to crawl away, but it bit his ankle. He screamed out in pain. He kept trying to crawl away, but the Kangaroo had him now. Edse was pummeled to a painful bloody death. The crowd was in shock. The kangaroo walked out of the ring and bounced into the sky, ready to defend Australia from all threats.
Montmorency
05-22-2012, 20:03
One down.
Alive 11/17:
1. BSmith
2. LazyMcCrow
3. Arjos
6. DaveShack
7. Autolycus
8. Atheotes
9. Zaccino
11. SalmonSoil
12. Alsark
13. Jarema
15. Ishmael
Dead 6/17:
16. Askthepizzaguy, killed by duel D1.
17. Chaotix, killed N1.
4. Montmorency, killed in duel D2.
10. Nightbringer, killed in duel D2.
5. Rickinator9, killed N2.
14. edse, lynched D3.
:bow:
Zack has died. Writeups to come. 24 hours for this phase as well. Begin D4.
Alive 10/17:
1. BSmith
2. LazyMcCrow
3. Arjos
6. DaveShack
7. Autolycus
8. Atheotes
11. SalmonSoil
12. Alsark
13. Jarema
15. Ishmael
Dead 7/17:
16. Askthepizzaguy, killed by duel D1.
17. Chaotix, killed N1.
4. Montmorency, killed in duel D2.
10. Nightbringer, killed in duel D2.
5. Rickinator9, killed N2.
14. edse, lynched D3.
9. Zaccino, killed N3.
Zack was out fishing late out night when they came for him. He had just caught the biggest fish he had ever seen in his life, literally 3 metres long. He was yelling in happiness, until the sack came over his head and the blow to his head. He awoke to the smell of burning flesh. He realised it was his and screamed. He heard someone yelling out, "Throw another shrimp on the barbie mate!" laughter ensued, and the barbequeue opened. "Oh, you're still alive." Zack was mercifully shot in the head and dragged into the river. He'd be a nice surprise for the next fisherman.
LazyMcCrow
05-23-2012, 15:47
I thought it was clear I was voting for him based on his lack of reason?
..and I'd thought it was clear why I had voted Jarema..but it doesn't seem so clear now. Will re-read and see what tinkles the bells
One down.
Don't get me wrong - I love you and everything, but why must you always just be cryptic and mental?
atheotes
05-24-2012, 08:05
No votes yet? I think a few of you have been active since the day started!
Vote:Arjos
SalmonSoil
05-24-2012, 09:14
Yeah lets get some voting started.
vote: LazyMcCrow for having been active but not voting.
LazyMcCrow
05-24-2012, 09:35
Yeah lets get some voting started.
vote: LazyMcCrow for having been active but not voting.
well I was going to re-read the thread, but then I got sucked in to Diablo III again. Now I'm at work though - I have the time :)
LazyMcCrow
05-24-2012, 09:50
OK - Not much really posted to riff off. Arjos does seem a little bit 'happy' about everything. A few too many exclamation marks spotted about the place and 'joke-y' votes make me a bit shivery. And his initial vote against SK/mafia-claim Monty was odd. He seems more scummy than Jarema with hindsight. But I'm going to go with my guts and vote: autolycus
Vote: Alsark
Because I'm happy XD
Montmorency
05-24-2012, 10:07
Give me a brawl.
vote: Arjos
because he is happy
LazyMcCrow
05-24-2012, 10:21
Give me a brawl.
PLEASE. Please can you be more helpful than that? Cryptic behaviour to begin with, plus an addition frosting of obfuscation even after death is just confusing. Why do you do this?
Montmorency
05-24-2012, 10:23
?
Either lynch Jarema or give me a 5-way tie.
LazyMcCrow
05-24-2012, 10:24
Vote: Alsark
Because I'm happy XD
Flying with that then?
vote: Arjos
because he is happy
Man. Really? unvote: vote: Jarema
Unvote; Vote: Jarema
Think you are happier than me, huh?
Flying with that then?
No one has any case on anyone, don't delusion yourself...
Could be the mafia is the one trying hard to have one, so you! XD
Montmorency
05-24-2012, 10:49
No one has any case on anyone, don't delusion yourself...
Could be the mafia is the one trying hard to have one, so you! XD
:stare:
Hmm...
:brood:
:stare:
Hmm...
:brood:
Yes Monty, all in your head as usual :D
LazyMcCrow
05-24-2012, 11:15
:stare:
Hmm...
:brood:
Yes Monty, all in your head as usual :D
Or did he?
If no-one has a case on anyone as you say, then you are lazy town for not looking. If you are lazy town you wouldn't have felt so compelled to respond, (plus you called me delusional), so:
unvote: Jarema vote: Arjos
then you are lazy town for not looking.
I was going for the largest tie possible, then people started to pile up votes...
BTW funny that with just one word and you go all defensive...
Unvote; Vote: LazyMcCrow
Desperate for reasons and too defensive: there now I've got myself a case...
Round over.
3 Arjos (Atheotes, Jarema, LazyMcCrow)
2 LazyMcCrow (SalmonSoil, Arjos)
Round not extended. If you're too lazy to show up and play, then I'm not going to extend the deadline for you.
Arjos lynched.
24 hours for orders.
"Arjos was condemned to be lynched. Unfortunately he was so high and happy he didn't realise he was going to die. As such he walked straight into the bus that was dropping the schoolchildren off at school. One of those kids grew up to be Marine that killed Osama bin Laden. He knew ever since that fateful day, when the man ran in front on the bus and began to breakdance, only to have his legs ripped to shreds and his face implanted on the road, that he would do whatever he could to stop needless and pointless violence to innocents. He studied hard, went to the army and became the very best that anyone ever was. He was deployed to the gulf and faught bravely, earning medals in bravery for saving his comrades. He left the army briefly to impregnate his highschool sweetheart and marry her, until she was killed in 911. He was outraged and depressed at this turn of events, but he knew what he had to do.
He had to kill all the Arabs.
He traveled over to Afghanistan and began to mow down every Arab he could see. They exploded in glorious bouts of blood and gore. However he was caught bragging to his teammates about his murders, and he was sentenced to death and hung.
Moral of the story: Don't do drugs."
Montmorency
05-24-2012, 12:07
I never asked for this...
atheotes
05-24-2012, 12:33
I never asked for this...
We cannot get everything we ask for :verycool:
Anyways, why should we give you what you ask for? Did you not claim to be the SK? Have you not been cryptic to the point of being useless?
Montmorency
05-24-2012, 12:35
Cryptic how? Not a single post of mine has been cryptic - merely concise.
It's in your best interest to kill the Mafia.
Yes. But not necesserilly in yours
Montmorency
05-24-2012, 12:50
Just what a scumbag would want me to think!
LazyMcCrow
05-24-2012, 13:08
Unvote; Vote: LazyMcCrow
Desperate for reasons and too defensive: there now I've got myself a case...
Those accusations you're attempting to pin on me are exactly the reasons I switched my vote from Jarema to you. After being so 'happy' in previous phases, while there was no heat on you, you went pretty cool pretty quick.
LazyMcCrow
05-24-2012, 13:10
Cryptic how? Not a single post of mine has been cryptic - merely concise.
It's in your best interest to kill the Mafia.
Maybe Cryptic was the wrong choice of words. I apologise, you haven't been cryptic - just obtuse...when you weren't claiming SK.
Yes. But not necesserilly in yours
Jarema - Was Monty SK or Scum?
Jarema - Was Monty SK or Scum?
How could I know?
From his behavior, I would suspect mafia member trying to act as a serial killer after death
My apologies for the lack of participation. Diablo III is really killing my mafia-playing, lol.
So I'm really doubting Jarema and Arjos could have been mafia together; and with Lazy McCrow's voting I doubt that he could have been mafia with Arjos, either (and probably not with Jarema, either). This is what makes no affiliation reveal on death so confusing, because this... actually tells us nothing, especially since there isn't a cop, either. For all we know one of the mafia is already dead, and thus looking for signs of buddying is totally irrelevant. I'd be tempted to say look at the lurkers. When I say lurkers I don't mean people who just aren't visiting the forums, but people who have been viewing the thread and not contributing at all - the mafia loves to see townies lynch each other and sit by to watch.
Alsark didn't make it. 24 hours for day.
Alive 8/17:
1. BSmith
2. LazyMcCrow
6. DaveShack
7. Autolycus
8. Atheotes
11. SalmonSoil
13. Jarema
15. Ishmael
Dead 9/17:
16. Askthepizzaguy, killed by duel D1.
17. Chaotix, killed N1.
4. Montmorency, killed in duel D2.
10. Nightbringer, killed in duel D2.
5. Rickinator9, killed N2.
14. edse, lynched D3.
9. Zaccino, killed N3.
3. Arjos, lynched D4.
12. Alsark, killed N4.
Alsark loved Diablo 3. Loved it. Loved it so much that he neglected his children and wife until she divorced him and left him with his kid. But he didn't care. He had Diablo 3. Going home from Arjos' death, he was approached by men in black suits. "I know you love Diablo 3 Alsark. Try this server, it has the hardest monster in the game, and the best loot you will ever get. If you win, you become famous. A god."
"And if you lose-"
"Won't happen."
The men smiled and gave him the piece of paper.
Later that night, Alsark booted up Diablo 3 on his computer made out of a vegemite jar and a milo tin, logged into the server. His character was a baby, to mock the other players that he was so good, and they were beaten by a ugly, misshapen mass of human flesh. He began to play the game, clicking feverishly, giving second degree burns to his index and pointer fingers. However, he kept playing. Eventually, he came to the final boss. He looked at it, surprised at how small it was. It was a dog. He clicked it, and it said it was a dingo. Weird name for a dog. He shrugged and clicked at it, and began to fight it. Howver, the dingo one-hitted him and his baby fell to the ground dead. The dingo began to eat his corpse, deleting his character. He saw it disappear.
"What's the matter mate, did a dingo eat your baby?"
Alsark died of immense sadness and depression soon after.
LazyMcCrow
05-25-2012, 12:08
My apologies for the lack of participation. Diablo III is really killing my mafia-playing, lol.
Bent down to pick up some Gold and a pair of cracked leather pants....
Alsark didn't make it. 24 hours for day.
...never got back up.
Did the Edse and Zack writeups, doing the Arjos and Alsark ones now.
LazyMcCrow
05-25-2012, 12:24
Let's throw out another candidate. vote:zaccino.
Throw out while you eat popcorn and snicker?
vote: autolycus
Nothings changed since day one: That post still jumps out at me - and you're lurking. Let's hear what you have to say about the situation.
vote: autolycus
And writeups done. Enjoy.
lol the write-ups were hilarious XD
vote: Jarema. Still posting without any reasons and happy to follow anyone else's arguments.
Yes.
I suck at game with no reveals. Honestly, my death would not be a big lost for a town
vote: Jarema. Looking back over D2 made me somewhat suspicious of him, namely his initial OMGUS vote and then changing his vote to Montmorency because of a joke post.
Haha, nice write up.
Also, I would like to thank the mafia for doing the favor of killing me :). More D3 time!
SalmonSoil
05-26-2012, 07:14
Yes.
I suck at game with no reveals. Honestly, my death would not be a big lost for a town
Ok then. vote:Jarema
DaveShack
05-26-2012, 08:36
A clueless townie is still better than a dead townie, because he keeps the scum a phase further away from winning.
Vote: Autolycus
Autolycus (LazyMcCrow, DaveShack, Jarema)
Jarema (BSmith, Ishamel, SalmonSoil)
Send in rock paper scissors orders. And a backup as well.
Just remembered that Autolycus won't be back until 29/30th.
Sigh. RNG it is.
Jarema: Rock, Paper
Autolycus: 1.scissors
2.rock
3.paper
Autolycus has been lynched. Night orders in.
LazyMcCrow
05-27-2012, 10:37
Just remembered that Autolycus won't be back until 29/30th.
face+palm
LazyMcCrow
05-27-2012, 10:39
A clueless townie is still better than a dead townie, because he keeps the scum a phase further away from winning.
Vote: Autolycus
And you know Jarema is a townie how?
LYNCH OR LOSE TIME PRETTY MUCH. YOU MAY WANT TO PARTICIPATE.
BSmith was killed.
DaveShack was exploded into a million pieces.
Alive 5/17:
2. LazyMcCrow
8. Atheotes
11. SalmonSoil
13. Jarema
15. Ishmael
Dead 12/17:
16. Askthepizzaguy, killed by duel D1.
17. Chaotix, killed N1.
4. Montmorency, killed in duel D2.
10. Nightbringer, killed in duel D2.
5. Rickinator9, killed N2.
14. edse, lynched D3.
9. Zaccino, killed N3.
3. Arjos, lynched D4.
12. Alsark, killed N4.
7. Autolycus, died in a duel D5.
1. BSmith, killed N5.
6. DaveShack, exploded N5.
I maintain my previous suspicions.
vote: Jarema
Askthepizzaguy
05-27-2012, 13:39
SalmonSoil and Ishmael are guilty.
Join me in death.
Askthepizzaguy
05-27-2012, 13:59
Agreed, this lynch is yucky.
vote: Jarema
SalmonSoil's only D1 contribution. Waits, posts basically nothing, doesn't move his vote.
Votes for Jarema who is still alive = Mafia ESP.
Sorry, I'll forward that to you.
And vote: atheotes
Ishmael's D1 contribution:
He votes, and he also votes for someone who is still alive. = Mafia ESP.
Atheotes is a less-active punching bag for the mafia. To draw votes and not be a threat to them.
I thought you were the serial killer? Seriously Montmorency, keep your story consistent.
Taking Monty seriously = scumtell. No one takes Monty seriously, especially Monty.
:laugh4:
Bravo Visorslash. ATPG goes the way of Queensland in this year's State of Origin (hey, I can dream).
I hope you get nightmares.
vote: Nightbringer
Salmon's D2 contribution.
Tally:
2 Jarema (Alsark, BSmith)
2 Nightbringer (Lazy, SalmonSoil)
1 Alsark (Autolycus)
2 DaveShack (Arjos, rickinator9)
1 Arjos (Atheotes)
2 Montmorency (Edse, Jarema)
1 Autolycus (Montmorency)
1 Rickinator9 (Zack)
1 Edse (Ishmael)
1 SalmonSoil (Nightbringer)
Not voting: DaveShack
Duels can may result in one or more people dying. Whatever outcome that has at least one person dying is the outcome chosen. So if you all tie, then it's a redraw. So any number of people may die in a duel if there is more then 2 combatants.
Eg. 3 people duel, 2 people max can die. 4 people duel, 3 can die. Or 1 can die, or 2. If no die, there is a redraw. Understand?
Mafia will want to be on one of the wagons that involve 2 people, to keep themselves from dying in this circumstance. Salmon and Jarema are the two survivors who are second on the wagon.
2. LazyMcCrow- 1st on a wagon
8. Atheotes- 1st on a wagon
11. SalmonSoil- 2nd on a wagon = likely to be guilty
13. Jarema- 2nd on a wagon, same.
15. Ishmael- voted after the 2-person wagons were established, thus not choosing between any of the candidates = scummy.
That's why Salmon and Ishmael are scummy. Salmon made sure neither one of them were in danger, Ishmael failed to decide the round.
Yeah I don't like Edse's vote.
Therefore vote: Edse
Salmon's D3. Same pattern, a vote with not much else, and risks very little in terms of causing controversy or attention on himself.
Yeah lets get some voting started.
vote: LazyMcCrow for having been active but not voting.
Salmon's D4. Attempts to make himself look better than lazy because lazy was too lazy to vote. It's a subtle "get the bad townie" action where town is behaving badly to begin with.
Indicates he's trying to keep his nose cleaner than yours, for appearance sake. Of course, he's voting, which should be a threat to scums, and he's not getting lynched, which is a bigger threat to scums. Why didn't the scums murder him by now?
vote: Jarema. Looking back over D2 made me somewhat suspicious of him, namely his initial OMGUS vote and then changing his vote to Montmorency because of a joke post.
Ishmael returns with easy vote on the game-long punching bag, Jarema.
Ok then. vote:Jarema
Smells like genuine suspicion, or an all-too-easy vote, to you?
I'm dead and have been longer than any of you, and he stinks worse than my corpse does.
This vote tries to kill Jarema. (MOTIVE- REALLY WANTS TO SEE JAREMA DIE!!! THIS IS NOT A DISTANCING VOTE!!!)
This vote also ties up the round, and then Autolycus dies, and he was innocent since this is lynch or lose, not tomorrow.
Jarema the easy punching bag for Ishmael and SalmonSoil, neither of whom wants to see the other dead.
Now......... you will listen to me and bring me the head of SalmonSoil immediately.
When you survive another round, you'll bring me Ishmael's head.
I will do vile and unspeakable things to both heads. As a zombie, hungry for evil flesh, you can count on that much.
Then, and only then, will you deserve the ending that comes.
Montmorency
05-27-2012, 14:12
You seem to have ignored the role of the serial killer.
This basically means that I can specify delay to my kills. All of you will die just when the game seems won.
There are not two Mafia.
Askthepizzaguy
05-27-2012, 14:34
You seem to have ignored the role of the serial killer.
There are not two Mafia.
Dead 12/17:
16. Askthepizzaguy, killed by duel D1.
17. Chaotix, killed N1.
4. Montmorency, killed in duel D2.
10. Nightbringer, killed in duel D2.
5. Rickinator9, killed N2.
14. edse, lynched D3.
9. Zaccino, killed N3.
3. Arjos, lynched D4.
12. Alsark, killed N4.
7. Autolycus, died in a duel D5.
1. BSmith, killed N5.
6. DaveShack, exploded N5.
N5 was the only night with more than one kill. It's probable the explosion was a delayed kill, and the SK is already dead.
The SK didn't have much of an impact on the game because the SK hasn't been killing all game, which means town either lynched or the mafia murdered said SK a while back.
There are two mafia, and you probably were the serial killer and had zero respect for the role you were given as usual.
Askthepizzaguy
05-27-2012, 14:42
2 Jarema (Alsark, BSmith)
2 Nightbringer (Lazy, SalmonSoil)
1 Alsark (Autolycus)
2 DaveShack (Arjos, rickinator9)
1 Arjos (Atheotes)
2 Montmorency (Edse, Jarema)
1 Autolycus (Montmorency)
1 Rickinator9 (Zack)
1 Edse (Ishmael)
1 SalmonSoil (Nightbringer)
Remember this tally, this is the tally that has all of the meaning.
Ishmael is not one of the vote-getters. Ishmael and SalmonSoil fail to get much in the way of pressure or votes all game. Which means the mafia and the town are both not really voting for them. So why are they alive?
Note also that SalmonSoil and Ishmael have both conspired to get Jarema lynched throughout the game. Both want him dead, indicating he's neither of their partners, which means that under the circumstances, if Jarema were guilty, Salmon or Ishmael would have been murdered by now. Hell, he'd have murdered any of you folks trying to lynch him by now.
Ishmael's late vote here in the above tally is to get a vote down and intentionally does not decide the tie! It reeks of cowardice that no townie should ever have. He deserves death for that ALONE, never mind his lousy vote record.
Salmon votes often, never gives much in the way of reasons, and given how his vote has been all over the place, he should have been considered a THREAT to the mafia by now. Yet the mafia continue to choose not to murder him, even though he's not in much danger of a lynch.
Who remains besides Ishmael and SalmonSoil?
Atheotes who is always a target of suspicion, doesn't speak much. Possibility of not voting in a round.
Jarema, the appointed scapegoat of the game, who is unsympathetic and will likely draw votes. Target of my two top suspects for the lynch, easiest vote.
LazyMcCrow, who has also been beating up on Jarema for a while.
Does Jarema really look guilty? Everyone has been trying to kill him except atheotes. So let's explore that option next.
Atheotes has been voting mainly for Arjos. As such, he was no threat to the scums all game. He's not said or done much else. This also fits his usual style of doing his own thing and trying to get his suspects lynched, but with a minimum of "I accuse you, because...".
Difference between him and SalmonSoil is that Salmon's vote has been all over the place, trying to control and influence the rounds. Atheotes seems to not give a poop what happens, no matter who is under pressure. Which indicates that Salmon has more to lose.
Atheotes' vote for Arjos is probably why Arjos and Atheotes were both kept around for so long. No threat to the scum and were likely to keep themselves divided.
Atheotes didn't break pattern which means he never had an interest in resolving the round a certain way, as a scum likely might. He was also no threat to Ishmael or SalmonSoil. I don't see collusion and I don't see scummy interest in deciding the round.
But there's a difference between Atheotes and Ishmael. As you saw, ishmael failed to decide a round as well. But that's breaking pattern, here, Ishmael obviously does want to decide a round. He just didn't want to decide a round that resulted in the death of a townie during the middlegame and waited until the rest of yall voted to place his completely ineffective on purpose vote down.
Atheotes dogged a suspect all game, which shows intent to kill. Ishmael DODGED responsibility for a lynch, which shows intent to survive. That's the difference in behavior.
Atheotes isn't scum because of his behavior pattern which indicates noninterest, and single-minded consistency. Not usually indicative of scum because scum need to live IN THE MOMENT of each particular round.
Jarema is not scum because everyone wants him dead and he's a likely lynch, and he's not effective at persuading others to follow his cases at times.
LazyMcCrow is the wildcard because he's one of the more talkative people this game.
He voted for Autolycus, Nightbringer, Jarema (again, not Jarema's partner... and Jarema voted him back), and on that round, Lazy was going to end up being probably the lynch, but SalmonSoil came back and pushed Edse over the edge. But, Salmon then came back and voted for Lazy on the very next round, for "being active but not voting" which is a killing sentence.
That's not a "oooooo let me distance myself from my partner" thats "kill this man", loosely translated from my mafia-english dictionary.
Lazy is not Salmon's partner.
Jarema is not Salmon's partner.
Atheotes is too consistent. I don't believe it is him.
As such, SalmonSoil absolutely positively has to die. I didn't throw my weight around this entire game, but he cannot be allowed to survive the game. Period.
Ishmael is basically just as guilty, for his own reasons, plus the fact that he's Salmon's most likely snuggle bunny. They didn't even distance themselves from each other, or talk to each other... they ignored each other's existence.
The silence is deafening. They're talking to each other, but not here. On the scum topic.
Now die vanquished, foul oppressors, and remember thy conqueror.
Montmorency
05-27-2012, 14:45
Hell, he'd have murdered any of you folks trying to lynch him by now.
He murdered me!
Askthepizzaguy
05-27-2012, 14:55
He murdered me!
Think of it as a way for you to retire without having to worry about a pension. The man did you a favor and you repay him with your vile and false suspicions. HOW DARE YOU.
Askthepizzaguy
05-27-2012, 14:57
For the purposes of WIFOM, I am Jarema's partner. How did you brilliant people manage to lynch me round one? You smart townies have foiled me again!
Jarema, the appointed scapegoat of the game, who is unsympathetic and will likely draw votes.
It hurts. It really does.
Ah, and arguments on SalmonSoil seems valid.
Of course I know that if you were scum ATPG you would probably easily convince me into voting for someone innocent.
But this analysis seems so valid.
Vote: SalmonSoil
Askthepizzaguy
05-27-2012, 15:17
Actually I tried that nonsense on you the last time I was scum and it didn't work. You voted for the scumbag then, too.
Actually I tried that nonsense on you the last time I was scum and it didn't work. You voted for the scumbag then, too.
Remember this one game
I was then 99% sure you were mafia :D
Askthepizzaguy
05-27-2012, 16:35
So was most everyone else, but they were dead so what did it matter. Only voting people count.
Right, living townies?
*blinks*
Pizza, I am...impressed with your analysis. It's completely wrong of course, at least with regards to me, but I appreciate the time you put into that. I was going to run with your suspicions and vote for Salmonsoil, but it occurred to me that most of your 'evidence' against him was because of him apparently buddying with me, which obviously isn't all that convincing (not to mention, a dead mafioso could easily waste the next couple of lynches by posting such a helpful, must-be-townie analysis).
I thought you were the serial killer? Seriously Montmorency, keep your story consistent.
Taking Monty seriously = scumtell. No one takes Monty seriously, especially Monty.
As to the above, I've been trying to moderate my smiley usage. I would have thought it would be obvious I was playing along with the joke based on my earlier comment that I would forward the SK PM to Montmorency, but perhaps you missed that (or deliberately overlooked it; see 'ATPG is a mafioso,' above).
Askthepizzaguy
05-28-2012, 00:42
*blinks*
Pizza, I am...impressed with your analysis. It's completely wrong of course, at least with regards to me, but I appreciate the time you put into that. I was going to run with your suspicions and vote for Salmonsoil, but it occurred to me that most of your 'evidence' against him was because of him apparently buddying with me, which obviously isn't all that convincing (not to mention, a dead mafioso could easily waste the next couple of lynches by posting such a helpful, must-be-townie analysis).
*flinch*
Pizza, I am.... very glad you're dead. You completely nailed me of course, at least with regards to me, but your devastating analysis aside, I'm going to win the game anyway. I was going to humor you and bus my scum-buddy, but I realized that I can in no way possibly do that because I'd be next on the chopping block. As such, I'm going to continue to vote for the OBVIOUSLY TOWNIE Jarema, whether it be one "r" or two in his name, it matters not. I am not convinced by your analysis, even though I allegedly thought about voting for SalmonSoil, but I can't do that because it frightens me to think of his death, or my own. Also, and here's the kicker, all of a sudden, you Pizzaguy are a mafioso.
Yeah, that's it. That's how I'll weasel out of this one.
It always makes my heart aflutter whenever I see a scumbag so caught and so dripping with guilt. Call me scumbag, eh? I've found my white whale.
From hell's heart, I stab at thee, and gnaw on your meaty legs because I'm a hungry little zombie and you so desperately need to DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE!!!!!!!!!!!
SalmonSoil
05-28-2012, 07:33
Ok Pizza, whilst I appreciate your lengthy analysis, I just checked and I'm not scum.
Now I know that lots of analysis is your style, but I find it hard to see why a townie murdered on night one would still care enough about the game to post such a hefty analysis this late. Its possible, but not likely. I just want everyone to keep that in mind when using Pizzas analysis.
So seeing as you are probably scum, who are you protecting? The obvious conclusion is that Jarema is your buddy, but seeing as town has only has two lynches left and you are providing two "obvious" lynches, it could be any of the other 3 players. Also to facilitate your two lynch plan you ignore the possibility that one scum may have already been lynched.
Now lets look at Jarema. Notice that the only time he came dangerously close to being lynched (other than the 4 way draw, which seems like more of a fluke seeing as it was on day 2), Bsmith, who voted for him, died the next night. But that seems like a risky scum move, so I dunno.
I agree that Atheotes has been probably too consistent to be scum. Which could also be a great cover if your scum buddy points it out for everyone. He has also been pretty successful at avoiding being targeted by anyone.
I just don't really know about Lazy, like you said he is a wild card.
Ishmael I'll ignore seeing as I think you are scum Pizza, and you clearly tried to incriminate him. Also most of your analysis was based around him being my buddy, which he isn't. However he has been keeping his head suspiciously low.
I'll start with vote: Atheotes because I think your being overly defensive of Jarema is probably just an attempt to cosy up to him and make him more likely to vote with you and your fellow scum. Of course, if someone is willing to make themselves more suspicious for me...
LazyMcCrow
05-28-2012, 08:52
Wow. Just wow. Ishmael is so scum. The only people I'm even feeling vaguely certain are/were town are pizza and jarema right now. Not sure about SalmOnsoil, but dude, your last post about not thinking atheotes is scum... And then voting atheotes? Wtf? I think it's pretty obvious From his flinch that Ishmael is scum, but your panic-voting makes it easy to fulfil pizzas request to deliver the fishy head of vote: Salmonsoil
Not sure about SalmOnsoil, but dude, your last post about not thinking atheotes is scum... And then voting atheotes? Wtf? I think it's pretty obvious From his flinch that Ishmael is scum, but your panic-voting makes it easy to fulfil pizzas request to deliver the fishy head of vote: Salmonsoil
Lazy, please be consistent here. You're essentially doing the inverse of what you accuse Salmonsoil of - calling somebody scum, and then not voting for them. Whilst you say you're "not sure about Salmonsoil." If you think I'm mafia, feel free to vote for me, but don't just go along with ATPG blindly.
atheotes
05-28-2012, 10:06
Ok Pizza, whilst I appreciate your lengthy analysis, I just checked and I'm not scum.
Now I know that lots of analysis is your style, but I find it hard to see why a townie murdered on night one would still care enough about the game to post such a hefty analysis this late. Its possible, but not likely. I just want everyone to keep that in mind when using Pizzas analysis.
So seeing as you are probably scum, who are you protecting? The obvious conclusion is that Jarema is your buddy, but seeing as town has only has two lynches left and you are providing two "obvious" lynches, it could be any of the other 3 players. Also to facilitate your two lynch plan you ignore the possibility that one scum may have already been lynched.
Now lets look at Jarema. Notice that the only time he came dangerously close to being lynched (other than the 4 way draw, which seems like more of a fluke seeing as it was on day 2), Bsmith, who voted for him, died the next night. But that seems like a risky scum move, so I dunno.
I agree that Atheotes has been probably too consistent to be scum. Which could also be a great cover if your scum buddy points it out for everyone. He has also been pretty successful at avoiding being targeted by anyone.
I just don't really know about Lazy, like you said he is a wild card.
Ishmael I'll ignore seeing as I think you are scum Pizza, and you clearly tried to incriminate him. Also most of your analysis was based around him being my buddy, which he isn't. However he has been keeping his head suspiciously low.
I'll start with vote: Atheotes because I think your being overly defensive of Jarema is probably just an attempt to cosy up to him and make him more likely to vote with you and your fellow scum. Of course, if someone is willing to make themselves more suspicious for me...
~:confused: Lots of inconsistencies there...panic? and when did i ever defend Jarema?
vote: Salmonsoil
atheotes
05-28-2012, 10:08
@ Ishmael - What do you think about Salmon's last post?
LazyMcCrow
05-28-2012, 10:19
Lazy, please be consistent here. You're essentially doing the inverse of what you accuse Salmonsoil of - calling somebody scum, and then not voting for them. Whilst you say you're "not sure about Salmonsoil." If you think I'm mafia, feel free to vote for me, but don't just go along with ATPG blindly.
Not only does your reaction (and SalmonSoil) to pizzas post make me think you are mafia, it also makes me think you are BOTH mafia. Visor said this is vote or die time. If you manage to split the vote and get one of you saved by a duel or a close vote switch by one or the both of you at the end of the phase then it will be too late. I'm hanging my vote on the fact that you are BOTH trying to make out like pizza is scum and as I already said, him and Jarema are the only ones I feel remotely confident are town. The reason I called you out? You responded first to Pizza and sounded scummy. The reason I'm voting SalmonSoil is he sounds just as scummy as you do and hopefully mine and Jaremas vote will lynch him as any split vote or late vote change could easily win you the game.
As its Lylo, 24 extra hours.
As its Lylo, 24 extra hours.
I think it is a direct proof we have 2 scum
Now I know that lots of analysis is your style, but I find it hard to see why a townie murdered on night one would still care enough about the game to post such a hefty analysis this late. Its possible, but not likely.
It is totally consistent with Pizza style.
I would even say, that in games with reveal on death, Pizza likes to be lynched early, and then post as a confirmed townie.
And I think that he would try to do so also in a game with no reveal. No matter if he is scum or town.
I think other people who knows Pizza will agree with me that it is null argument
Montmorency
05-28-2012, 12:32
Lynch or lose: One scum, but the SK has a kill for tonight.
hink about it.
@ Ishmael - What do you think about Salmon's last post?
To be honest - no idea. I recognise that I am biased to think he's innocent, as ATPG accused both of us with similar reasoning and I know that I'm a townie. On the other hand, he does seem to be latching onto my suspicions of Pizza rather assiduously, which shows he's very interested in maintaining his own survival. But then, in a LyLo situation the best thing a townie can do is maintain their own survival. Considering my lack of a strong opinion on Salmonsoil one way or the other I feel justified in maintaining my vote on Jarema, who has been way more scummy in my opinion.
SalmonSoil
05-29-2012, 03:53
Wow. Just wow. Ishmael is so scum. The only people I'm even feeling vaguely certain are/were town are pizza and jarema right now. Not sure about SalmOnsoil, but dude, your last post about not thinking atheotes is scum... And then voting atheotes? Wtf? I think it's pretty obvious From his flinch that Ishmael is scum, but your panic-voting makes it easy to fulfil pizzas request to deliver the fishy head of vote: Salmonsoil
In my post I'm pretty sure I explained that I was uncertain about everybody, but more suspicious of Jarema and Atheotes, and then why Atheotes might be a good choice over Jarema. If that was unclear then sorry. Ishmael was also right to point out that your post is doing the same thing, and you only later explain your split vote argument.
~:confused: Lots of inconsistencies there...panic? and when did i ever defend Jarema?
vote: Salmonsoil
My post was mostly addressed to Pizza, including that bit which looking back does make it unclear what I was saying. It should read:
I'll start with vote: Atheotes because I think Pizza's being overly defensive of Jarema is probably just an attempt to cosy up to him and make him more likely to vote with Pizza and Pizza's fellow scum. Of course, if someone is willing to make themselves more suspicious for me...
I sort of ignored Ishmael before for the same reason he ignored me; Pizza threw similar accusations against both of us and I know I'm innocent. But actually, looking back it seems like he could quite possibly be scum. Seeing as everyone else is determined to only throw their vote where the great lord Pizza commands I guess the only way I can survive is to offer you unvote; vote: Ishmael.
Askthepizzaguy
05-29-2012, 05:46
Ok Pizza, whilst I appreciate your lengthy analysis, I just checked and I'm not scum.
Phew, that's a relief.
Now I know that lots of analysis is your style, but I find it hard to see why a townie murdered on night one would still care enough about the game to post such a hefty analysis this late.
I actually like the game of mafia, particularly when it involves people I've played with before.
I was killed off right away by a town that didn't particularly care who died round one. Killed a lot of enthusiasm for me, but... I felt that maybe if I remained quiet, it would help keep the game un-influenced by myself, and the scums could get overconfident and/or townies could reel in the big catch without my interference. But seeing as it is LyLo, this is usually the part of the game where the town could use an opinion from the honored dead. I don't meet that category but I also don't see anyone else trying at all to help from beyond the grave.
Jarema has had himself bloodied to a pulp all game from basically everyone. From where I sit, he would have murdered everyone here besides atheotes by now, just to get rid of some of the voters. He's got a different style but it's not suicidal like Monty. Therefore his being scum makes no sense to me.
Prove me wrong, after the game I will bow to your superior analytical skills. But the folks pushing jarema the hardest look the worst to me, because it's so lazy and doesn't take into account that he has been the game's punching bag, yet you all still live. That doesn't smell like real analysis to me. That smells like vultures circling over a divided town, picking off the easy meat. Pure and simple.
So seeing as you are probably scum, who are you protecting? The obvious conclusion is that Jarema is your buddy, but seeing as town has only has two lynches left and you are providing two "obvious" lynches, it could be any of the other 3 players. Also to facilitate your two lynch plan you ignore the possibility that one scum may have already been lynched.
Show me how it even makes a difference. Two scum or one scum and a serial killer? You still need one of them dead obviously. So if I mis-identified a scumbag as a SK, it makes no difference.
If Jarema was a SK, it applies even MORE, that he's got no partner and has an even GREATER motive to eliminate you peeps who keep voting him. He's so innocent based on that reasoning. And I can't be his partner.
And let me tell you something else. I'd have told Jarema to pick you guys off if I were his scum buddy. Because this situation right here is suicide, and no one was changing their minds about him. I kill off my critics, look at my previous game as scum. I'm not afraid. You guys get a short attention span sometimes. It's better to kill off your critics than to leave them alive because then you're going to die.
Askthepizzaguy
05-29-2012, 05:48
feel free to vote for me, but don't just go along with ATPG blindly.
Pizzaguy is the pied piper, after all. :tongue2:
I love the line "feel free to vote for me". Why say such things as a townie, Ishmael? Scums want to prove that they're not afraid of being lynched, townies want to catch scum.
Askthepizzaguy
05-29-2012, 05:57
It is totally consistent with Pizza style.
I would even say, that in games with reveal on death, Pizza likes to be lynched early, and then post as a confirmed townie.
And I think that he would try to do so also in a game with no reveal. No matter if he is scum or town.
I think other people who knows Pizza will agree with me that it is null argument
Well I won't argue that I'm confirmed town. Being lynched doesn't prove me innocent, and in this game, even being murdered does not.
I am town though. As SK I'd have no motive to choose the scums over the town, and it doesn't fit into the... reading back, at least two explosion-based deaths this game. I wouldn't have had time to pick two people. I also have a looooong track record of siding with town over mafia as SK, so even if I were a SK I'd be honorary townie here. I'm not.
As mafioso, which I could be, this could be an attempt to sabotage town's chances. Though I probably would have made an attempt at that before now if that were my aim, particularly if Jarema were my partner, since he's been under threat of death for a while now and I haven't cared enough to make a peep.
More my style is to paint him gray, then accuse my real partner of being scum, but arguing someone else dead even harder, example, Ishmael versus Salmon. That wine actually has poison in it, which suits me more.
Also, LOL @ Blindly following Pizza Lord. How many times have I heard that from dying scum?
Askthepizzaguy
05-29-2012, 06:02
TBH I am not sure who is more scummy, Ishmael or Salmon.
I almost think it's worth it to switch to Ishmael, who continues the odd campaign against Jarema. But I wouldn't want to risk a divided vote.
You guys have only about 5 hours left anyway. Better hope I know what I'm talking about. These are just guesses as usual, but I'd be baffled if Ishmael or SalmonSoil weren't scum.
I love the line "feel free to vote for me". Why say such things as a townie, Ishmael? Scums want to prove that they're not afraid of being lynched, townies want to catch scum.
Sorry, wasn't the original case against me that I appeared to be afraid of being lynched?
I say that because I like to see openness and initiative within the town. The post you quoted occurred after Lazy McCrow had said that he thought I was the most scummy person in the game and that he "wasn't sure" about Salmonsoil, yet voted Salmonsoil anyway because he appeared to just be going along with your directions (he has given a reasonable explanation since then, but at the time my post was valid). Too often townies just go along with others' cases without thinking, or worse just post votes without any reasoning - I've been guilty of this plenty of times myself, but I'm trying to be more committed. That's why I was impressed with your detailed case and why I defended myself rather than acting unconcerned and letting the town lynch Salmonsoil.
With that said, Salmonsoil's vote on me makes me somewhat more suspicious of him, although I still think Jarema is a little more scummy. Specifically, if I were mafia and he town, why would I wade into this debate and try to defend him rather than just letting him be lynched? Apparently it's LyLo, so that would be a guaranteed win for me. I won't change my vote to him yet, as he may have just not thought things through the whole way, but if he doesn't address this I might be forced to.
Askthepizzaguy
05-29-2012, 08:18
"Letting the town lynch SalmonSoil"?
How do you know they're townies?
Kill Ishmael.
Stop grasping at straws ATPG. I use the phrase 'the town' to describe the collective body of currently alive players when their alignment is not known. Incidentally, I don't think I've ever seen any genuine scum caught from a simple slip of the tongue like that.
Askthepizzaguy
05-29-2012, 10:03
You never see it until you do. :tongue2:
SalmonSoil
05-29-2012, 10:28
Ok, I guess if I want to not die I'll have to vote: Jarema the maybe scum.
Askthepizzaguy
05-29-2012, 10:33
You forgot to unvote.
/is helpful
atheotes
05-29-2012, 10:40
Ishmael - do you still think Salmon is innocent and Jarema guilty?
Askthepizzaguy
05-29-2012, 10:41
I'd be happy with a switch from Salmon to Ishmael. If Salmon is guilty, then his acting is better than ishmael's acting. But we're simply out of time.
Ishmael - do you still think Salmon is innocent and Jarema guilty?
Can't they both be guilty? Still, seeing as Salmon didn't really address my earlier concern I might unvote, vote: SalmonSoil. If Jarema is scum and Salmon isn't, I will kick myself.
SalmonSoil has been lynched. Game is now over.
Well, goodbye town. You just lynched what was your only hope.
Mafia Victory.
Mafia:
LazyMcCrow
Atheotes
SK:
SalmonSoil
Doctor:
Rickinator9
Thoughts and final writeup tomorrow.
Whoops.
Well played mafia, I never really suspected either of you. You must have been loving this final day phase :beam:.
LazyMcCrow
05-29-2012, 12:49
Whoops.
Well played mafia, I never really suspected either of you. You must have been loving this final day phase :beam:.
It was lovely thanks.
Mafia QT (http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/SKei6fMXjLavS)
Interesting! SalmonSoil was the SK? How come just one kill Salmon? I just figured it was Monty and left it at that - thanks for exploding Daveshack though :)
Inddeed - thanks to town in general!
Montmorency
05-29-2012, 12:52
Well Pizza, looks like we got some explaining to do.
And stop going after serial killers, they're God's people!
SalmonSoil
05-29-2012, 13:00
Oh man if only I had unvoted. Always forget to unvote.
I guess Pizza was half right, I was a bad dude of course, but Ishmael wasn't and we definitely were not partners.
Atheotes was going to die tonight (from an earlier night kill), but I don't know who I would have ordered tonight.
My strategy was to have all of my murders occur on the last night, figuring that the more town there were the less likely I was to be either lynched or night killed. Ideally this also meant that there would be no pattern of SK kills for anyone to analyse. Victims were chosen semi-randomly, with people I didn't think were going to be lynched prioritised. However I didn't account for the fact that many of my chosen victims would be killed before their alloted time, and I didn't really do anything to protect them.
I tried to psych myself into thinking I was a normal townie scumhunting during the day phase but I feel like even when I am a vanilla townie I still end up looking like scum sooo...
atheotes
05-29-2012, 13:43
Whoops.
Well played mafia, I never really suspected either of you. You must have been loving this final day phase :beam:.
Yes. The last phase was a lot of fun. :beam: thanks to everyone.
We thought the SK was dead already. Good that we didnt forego a kill to frame people. It would have led the game to continue and i would have exploded tonight. Whew!
Thanks for hosting Visor. Thanks Lazy. Enjoyed it.
Atheotes was set to die Night 7 actually.
Though I was thinking that Salmon would kill Lazy N7/6 this night if he survived, and he would probably be lynched himself, making a come from behind town win.
Reveals would have helped in this game, and I probably should've included it.
atheotes
05-29-2012, 14:01
Atheotes was set to die Night 7 actually.
Though I was thinking that Salmon would kill Lazy N7/6 this night if he survived, and he would probably be lynched himself, making a come from behind town win.
Reveals would have helped in this game, and I probably should've included it.
So, tonight would have been N6 right? in that case i dont see how we would lose...
So, tonight would have been N6 right? in that case i dont see how we would lose...
Jarema or Ishamel are lynched.
You attempt to kill Salmon, Salmon kills Lazy most likely. Then either salmon or jarema are lynched, if jarema, Salmon wins, as you die that night. And if Salmon, you die that night, meaning either Town or Salmon wins.
LazyMcCrow
05-29-2012, 15:15
Jarema or Ishamel are lynched.
You attempt to kill Salmon, Salmon kills Lazy most likely. Then either salmon or jarema are lynched, if jarema, Salmon wins, as you die that night. And if Salmon, you die that night, meaning either Town or Salmon wins.
Thats actually a lot closer than it may have seemed, because this mafia victory owed as much to chance as it did to town error and lack of activity. Maybe role reveals would have made this version of the SK OP?
...'Skop'?
atheotes
05-29-2012, 20:08
Jarema or Ishamel are lynched.
You attempt to kill Salmon, Salmon kills Lazy most likely. Then either salmon or jarema are lynched, if jarema, Salmon wins, as you die that night. And if Salmon, you die that night, meaning either Town or Salmon wins.
i cant kill the SK?
rickinator9
05-29-2012, 23:43
So did I guess right on N1 or was it just some mafia trick? Mafia, why was I killed?
i cant kill the SK?
SK had a one shot bulletproof.
So did I guess right on N1 or was it just some mafia trick? Mafia, why was I killed?
Nope, you didn't guess right, IIRC.
LazyMcCrow
05-30-2012, 16:01
Mafia, why was I killed?
Ummm. Because you weren't mafia. Had no idea you were the Doc though :shrug: Just got lucky in every way this game I guess :nod: My first victory as mafia though, and only my second survival in any game - the other being Capo IV!
Askthepizzaguy
05-31-2012, 07:24
Meh, three scums to a minority town on the last round, was a wasted effort by me. The scums can force a town loss regardless of what happens there.
I thought it was two, or one remaining. Then it would have mattered.
Lucky shots scums never getting lynched or even hitting each other.
DaveShack
05-31-2012, 07:34
remove the [IN PLAY] perhaps? :yes:
Askthepizzaguy
05-31-2012, 07:41
Done.
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