Diablo 3 Org Gaming Group

[TinCow]

I'm sure there are many people who are going to be spending a lot of time playing Diablo 3 over the next few months. Well, Diablo games are far more fun in groups than alone. And groups are more fun when the other players are your friends instead of random strangers. So, I'd like to set up an Org gaming group for Diablo 3. To be honest, it's been so long since I logged onto Battle.net that I can't even remember how the system works, but I do recall that it's got a friending option, which presumably can be used to find people for Diablo 3 games.

So, post in here with the proper contact info if you're interested in playing Diablo 3 with other Orgahs. I'll certainly be there on a regular basis starting on launch day.

BattleTag: TinCow#1621

[Vladimir]

The commercial looks grand, but a little Final Fantasy. I'll have to read game reviews. Still addicted to Minecraft and remember the cartoonish clickfest that was Diablo 2.

[Fragony]

I'll probably be getting the console version, but otherwise I'm in. Kinda sad there is no Palladin-class, awesome with coop to boost other peoples stats.

[Voigtkampf]

To be honest, it's been so long since I logged onto Battle.net that I can't even remember how the system works, but I do recall that it's got a friending option, which presumably can be used to find people for Diablo 3 games.

Not only Diablo 3 friends, Battle.net account will tie you up with all your friends playing either Starcraft 2 or World of Warcraft.

I have no idea how much time I'll have for D3, but if I get the bug, I'll be contacting the folks here.

[Kekvit Irae]

Torchlight 2 > Diablo 3
Just sayin'

[Beskar]

Well, my tag will be Tiaexz, however I will have to see how the battletag system works but if you are interested TC and if we can actually play (doubtful, unfortunately. I think US, EU and Asia are seperate) then I am free to hook up.

[TinCow]

Well, my tag will be Tiaexz, however I will have to see how the battletag system works but if you are interested TC and if we can actually play (doubtful, unfortunately. I think US, EU and Asia are seperate) then I am free to hook up.

Actually, for Diablo 3, you can play with anyone in any region (http://www.videogamer.com/pc/diablo_3/news/diablo_3_allows_for_cross-region_multiplayer.html). The catch is that you can't use characters from one region in a different region. That's not great, but it's better than nothing I suppose.

[Voigtkampf]

Torchlight 2 > Diablo 3
Just sayin'

Actually, it isn't.


Its only half the price. :on_lalala:
Many angry Blizz fans are aiming at Torchwood right now. I'll have 'em both, just sayin'.

[Beskar]

:thumbsup: I have got a pizza in the oven (pepperoni), I got the drinks (water and the good stuff) and a day off work.

[TinCow]

and a day off work.

Oohh... jealous. I'm tempted, but unfortunately I have to actually get things done tomorrow. No work on Friday though, so I will play until my eyes bleed then.

[Major Robert Dump]

ColonBurns#1257

GameStop just texted me that it will be ready to pick up in an hour, but I'm gonna forgoe that mess and get it in the afternoon. I still like to play a little SWTOR from time to time, so not sure how much time I will have for this D3 business, but I definitely got the bug

ColonBurns#1257

[TinCow]

Got to play for an hour before work today (GAH!). I like the art style, and it's very enjoyable to be back in a Diablo game again. I'm unsure how I feel about the skill system so far, but I'm neutral bordering on optimistic rather than pessimistic. My main concern is that there won't be enough variety in it, though I've unlocked a couple things, so I won't really get a good picture of it until later. Regardless, it's hard to go wrong with the click-reward-click-reward system.

[Zim]

Preordered this last week. Alas, I probably won't get to play until the weekend. :sweatdrop:

[Papewaio]

Papewaio#1369

[TinCow]

Had some good fun with MRD last night. I'd like to propose something of an Org swap-meet for old equipment. If you've got rare, unique, or set items that you do not plan on using (and you have the space to store them), post them here for other Org players who might be able to make use of your hand-me-downs.

I've got a low-level (8ish) rare wand that's pretty decent, if anyone is starting a wizard.

[CountArach]

CountArach#6960

[GeneralHankerchief]

GeneralH#1545

I'll be on later today, still working my way through Tristram Cathedral. Got a monk build going, as Paladin was always my favorite in D2. :yes:

[Major Robert Dump]

I've already started my Hardcore character, and I am farther along than with my normal and having very much fun. I have my crafting up pretty high so if anyone starts HC and needs some stuff built then hit me up.... I really wish this game had in-game email so we could send messages.....

Not enjoying the witch doctor at all, but I hate starting over so I will see it through. My HC is a monk because, um, heals are good in HC

[Crandaeolon]

I started a witch doctor in Normal with the intention to play it like a HC char, so far (halfway past Act III Normal) I've died twice. Once against Belial and once against some mobs with some kind of movement control ability (vortex). Considering that I soloed the entirety of D2 Hardcore with a Necromancer without aid or items outside the game, this is not going so well. Still, the witch doctor is, unfortunately, more about direct damage than minions, so perhaps it's not a very good character for soloing HC.

I wonder if mobs get multiple abilities in later difficulties - how about jailer, vortex, lightning enchanted? ~D

[TinCow]

The auction house is kind of hilarious at the moment. People have no idea what things should cost, so asking prices are absurd. I like the idea of the system, but it needs much better sorting. In particular, why can't I sort by current bid price? If I want to buy a specific item (i.e. legendary, which are all identical), it would be really useful to be able to find the one I can slap the lowest bid on. Yet I can only sort by buyout price... that's wrong. I hope they improve the system much more in the future.

[CountArach]

I'm loving this game. I'm playing as a Demon Hunter. Dual wielding crossbows - hell yeah!

[TinCow]

I've become somewhat fascinated with the auction house recently. The majority of sellers do not appear to understand how to properly price items, so it's hard to find things that are worth buying. However, the general lack of decent pricing seems to make it relatively easy to sell. I've sold about 7 items so far, for a total of about 40k. I may be undervaluing them a bit, but they sell quick and that return is a lot more than I would have gotten for the goods from the merchants. In addition, it's totally pointless to craft gems of Radiant quality or below. It costs 3500 gold to craft a Radiant quality gem, but you can buy them on the auction house for between 500 and 1000 gold, depending on whims of the market at any particular moment. Every tier below that is similarly cheaper to buy at auction than to craft yourself.

[Voigtkampf]

Sounds like WoW AH all the way.

No, I won't be playing Diablo 3 any time soon, got things to do, games to review, I might get around to it at some later point, and I didn't drop by to bash the game or troll the thread, just an idle remark on how most MMO economies (oh, and how much of an MMO is Diablo 3, actually!?!) are disconnected from the "real game world". Been playing WoW for years, honestly, forgot all about Diablo games, played only occasionally, Starcraft was my poison of choice. After all, I better do ask, is Diablo all grind and gathering, how important is crafting? Are the best items drops or are they player crafted?

Personally, I don't think any MMO will come close to EVE Online in making a realistic and very engaging economic system.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I've become somewhat fascinated with the auction house recently. The majority of sellers do not appear to understand how to properly price items, so it's hard to find things that are worth buying. However, the general lack of decent pricing seems to make it relatively easy to sell. I've sold about 7 items so far, for a total of about 40k. I may be undervaluing them a bit, but they sell quick and that return is a lot more than I would have gotten for the goods from the merchants. In addition, it's totally pointless to craft gems of Radiant quality or below. It costs 3500 gold to craft a Radiant quality gem, but you can buy them on the auction house for between 500 and 1000 gold, depending on whims of the market at any particular moment. Every tier below that is similarly cheaper to buy at auction than to craft yourself.

Thanks for this tip; I've been completely avoiding the auction houses in favor of doing my own thing, but hearing about the odd prices has made me go to town on some of the gems.

Actually quite surprised that nearly a week in and the market hasn't come close to correcting itself yet.

[TinCow]

After all, I better do ask, is Diablo all grind and gathering, how important is crafting? Are the best items drops or are they player crafted?

It seems largely like a perk for getting better equipment immediately, in exchange for resource investment. I do not see any difference between the quality of crafted items and the quality of found items. It is, essentially, just a way to intentionally have the game generate a random item for you of X quality, instead of farming it yourself. Whether that is worth it or not would depend on how many resources you are willing to spend on generation of items which could come up with stats that are not desirable. If I had to identify one area where it seemed like it would be more worthwhile, it would probably be for quickly outfitting new characters with decent enough gear to level them up quickly.


Thanks for this tip; I've been completely avoiding the auction houses in favor of doing my own thing, but hearing about the odd prices has made me go to town on some of the gems.

Actually quite surprised that nearly a week in and the market hasn't come close to correcting itself yet.

I have a feeling that the gem pricing is due to the nature of gem drops. I'm in the middle of nightmare and getting Perfect gem drops, so it makes sense that those would sell at less than their crafting value since they didn't cost anything to create. I have a feeling that Radiant gems must be dropping at higher levels as well, or the current pricing makes no sense at all. There are massive price jumps for all levels above Radiant, with many not even available for sale at any price, so I'm guessing that Radiant is the highest level that can be obtained without crafting.

[Major Robert Dump]

The crafting is a godsend on hardcore when I need that little extra something right before a boss fight. Sometimes you know you are lacking in a stat, and crafting a few of the same item to try to meet your need is a good idea. However, the secondary crafting component -- the teeth -- are hard to come by (about 10% of breakdowns) so for unique items the wanton crafting can be a little more costly.

The prices in the HC AH go from borderline ridiculous to utterly absurd

Also, sorry for not playing with any of you guys, but I wanted my first playthrough of the campaign to be on hardcore. The friends I were playing with (excluding TinCow) were simply going to fast for me. I would understand this if it was their 4th toons, but this was like day effin two. Slow down....enhjoy the show....admire the graphics....

[TinCow]

However, the secondary crafting component -- the teeth -- are hard to come by (about 10% of breakdowns) so for unique items the wanton crafting can be a little more costly.

Maybe things are different in hardcore, but in softcore I'm pretty sure you get a secondary component when you recycle a rare item 100% of the time. So, recycle poor rares to craft new ones. Sell good rares on the auction house (or save them for use by another character).

[Divine Wind]

Currently I'm a level 27 Wizard, playing on normal. This is my first venture into the Diablo series (I have no idea how I missed all the fuss made over the first two games?!) and so far I am enjoying it immensely.

I do have a question about the auction house if someone can help me? I had a quick look at the gold exchange auction house (I don’t want to pay real money for these items!) and I noticed when I was about to make a bid, that there was a 15% transaction fee. Now is this 15% of the gold you bidding or is it real money? What is the point of this if it is gold? I couldn’t get my head around this at all.

[CountArach]

Currently I'm a level 27 Wizard, playing on normal. This is my first venture into the Diablo series (I have no idea how I missed all the fuss made over the first two games?!) and so far I am enjoying it immensely.

I do have a question about the auction house if someone can help me? I had a quick look at the gold exchange auction house (I don’t want to pay real money for these items!) and I noticed when I was about to make a bid, that there was a 15% transaction fee. Now is this 15% of the gold you bidding or is it real money? What is the point of this if it is gold? I couldn’t get my head around this at all.
15% of the gold you bid, unles you are in the real money auction house, where they take $1 per transaction I believe.

[TinCow]

What is the point of this if it is gold? I couldn’t get my head around this at all.

I'm pretty sure the point is to act as yet another gold sink (basically, a deflationary mechanism). The auction house handles gold transactions that are much larger than anything else in the game, so taking a cut out of those transactions is far more effective at reducing the amount of gold in circulation than the other in-game gold sinks.

[Crandaeolon]

The auction house is something of an instawin button. I spent a trivial amount of time (about ten mins, all buyouts) and gold (something like 25-30k) setting up my wizard for nightmare, and his listed damage is now almost 1k. Everything just explodes. I re-did normal Diablo just for fun, and it took maybe 20 seconds per phase. For a level 30 character. Sure it's only normal, but still the AH makes it pretty easy to have decent gear.

The crafting system seems pointless right now. The sheer volume of auctioned items guarantees that you'll find the stuff you want.

As for the wizard, I like it more than the witch doctor. The wizard can position itself better (no Soul Harvest) and has great defenses. Damage is accurate and "snappy", for want of a better word. The Wizard would seem to be better suited for Hardcore, or that's the gut feeling at least.

[TinCow]

Auction House update: as of last night Square gems (level above Radiant) were going for about 1500-2000 gold. So, not worth crafting those either. They must be dropping in Hell difficulty.

[Major Robert Dump]

Auction House update: as of last night Square gems (level above Radiant) were going for about 1500-2000 gold. So, not worth crafting those either. They must be dropping in Hell difficulty.

Wow. On HC a flawless averages around 5k per.

Also, broke down some more rares and got teeth on all of them. Must have been an early bug.

Speaking of bugs, while rolling blindly in to fight Diablo last night in hardcore, I caugh an interesting bug. Just before the "event" I got stunned for the first time in the game. When the event started, I was still stunned. Stayed stunned for more than 60 seconds as the special characters wailed on me. Got me below 10% health and finally broke free. Was yelling. Woke the neighbors. Thoguht maybe this was normal for the scene until I watched videos. Right before the fight, I changed one of my passive skills to the one that does 75% damage negation when stunned.... had I not done that I would most certainly be dead. F U Blizzard

[Vladimir]

You're all Geeks. On nerds, whatever she said, I wasn't listening to her:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I43GUnZN_s4

Why does this make me feel old and fat?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Anyone else manage to get to Whimsyshire yet? I've spent the past day or so trying to get all the necessary item drops to do so. Stuck on Izual right now.

[Major Robert Dump]

You're all Geeks. On nerds, whatever she said, I wasn't listening to her:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I43GUnZN_s4

Why does this make me feel old and fat?

Because that starlet is a teenager.

[Major Robert Dump]

RIP Bubbles, level 41 Monk.

You little babies need to play hardcore. After playing RL PVP, I cannot play regular mode anymore

[Vladimir]

Because that starlet is a teenager.

So Diablo is a teenage girl. Double sinful. I'm down with that.

[Major Robert Dump]

There are plenty of level 60s, but only a few in inferno. Most are too scared or waiting for certain fixes, like fixing the inferno enrage timers.....

It's actually easy to powerlevel in Hardcore, but I have avoided doing it, mainly because I don't have any friends in hardcore who will coordinate it with me. When my level 40 was alive I could have gotten you guys from level 2 to 28 in probably about 2 hours....

I dont have a problem doing this because NM Hardcore is where the real game begins as far as I am concerned....

Now I will probabaly have to join a clan for support because the ORGAHS are wussies. I want to keep playing hardcore, but the low level grind on multiple characters will get old really quick, and it creates sloppiness

After reading threads from normal modes/classes/campaigns it reminds me all over again why i play hardcore.

[Major Robert Dump]

Yeah it definitely lessened the blow that I have my stash maxed out and completely full of stuff.... i just wish I had remembered to dump all my radiants of my main before she got killed....

FYI I completely misunderstood how the ELECTIVE MODE feature worked. I thought it just let you customize your toolbar.... I had no idea you could double and triple up on categories, I thought you still had to take 1 skill from each branch. Anyway, I had just found that out right before I died and was messing with a new template which may have contributed to my demise

And GC: Stop deleting dead characters from hardcore. Send them to the hall of fame, they show on your profiel to other then with a little bio

[Major Robert Dump]

The monk has multiple heals that all fall in the saem category, and had I not gotten my WD killed a few hours ago, I was pretty sure that the two summoning skills (dogs and the fat guy) are in the same category.

Using elective mode it is entirely possible to make a monk that is 100% support/heals/escape.... of course if you are playing with tarts or soloing you may need to adjust templates. I really wish we could not respec anytime we wanted, this sort of makes it pointless to have more than one of any class, and elective mode while awesome sort of emphasises this. Look at what happened with the wizards, we wern't even a week in and sooooo many people were using the bogus force armor build and able to solo rush to hell with no problem. Of course, many of those guys died after the first patch hehe, but oh well...

[Major Robert Dump]

meh

[rvg]

This made me lol

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/05/28/diablo-iii-the-unofficial-novelisation/

[Major Robert Dump]

Great article.

This is me and GC playing Hardcore mode:

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Ddx8UJdoHm7w&h=5AQF5q0YaAQHqULKE9PJgN7-6JR9PQp0Ad51QD-tdAFjYcA


I cannot log on for 3 days now since the patch. I had this issue with initil install and had to download some fixes from a non-blizzard source, but none of the subsequent patches created an issue until this last one. It may be my government-provided internet. Either way, I'm not going to use a non-blizzard source again after all the hacking, and thus far all my tech support inquiries ahve pointed to that solution, or, to find another internetz.

So I guess i won't be playing for a while

[Crazed Rabbit]

Apparently some Forbes writers play Diablo 3:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2012/05/30/the-horror-of-being-hacked-in-diablo-3/


It’s a bit like walking into your house after a robbery. There’s that same feeling in the pit of your stomach as you approach a front door that’s been kicked in, but instead here you’re greeted by a naked character at the Diablo 3 selection screen. My poor monk, clad only in the scraps he started in, armor and weapons stripped, a sad look in his eye that tells me everything I need to know about what I’m going to find when I log in.

CR

[Zim]

Enjoying the game immensely, although I'm only in the 20s range levelwise with my Demon Hunter.

[Zim]

Just beat the game on normal with my Demon Hunter and onwards to Nightmare difficulty.

Battletag: Zim#1730

[TinCow]

Just beat the game on normal with my Demon Hunter and onwards to Nightmare difficulty.

Battletag: Zim#1730

Scienter and I just started on Nightmare with our second characters, so we'd be at about the same level as you right now. We're usually on nightly EST, if you want to join us.

[Major Robert Dump]

It's been 2 weeks now and I havent been able to get it to work since the patch, which is wierd because it patched just fine before.

I am fiending for a game, but I have a new rule (because this sort of crap happened with SC2 as well):

- I will not spend more than 15 minutes in any one day researching or trying to fix the issue. It took me 3 hours to figure out how to get the game installed initially because of various issues that were not all on my end. Not gonna do that again. I think ultimately the issue may be the firewall on my government provided recreational internet, and I'm not gonna load up my PC and go to a hotel because hotels are for meeting strippers, not carrying desktops so you can be robbed.

Anyway, that's my story. Have fun in the game guys.

Anyone else made any progress in hardcore?

[Voigtkampf]

Can anyone tell me if it is possible to earn real money now with this game, and to which extent? Curious to see how RMT is developing. I was curious about writing an article about it, so any tips and hints would be very much appreciated.

[TinCow]

I declare myself done with this game. Got two level 60 characters, and it's just not any fun. The Inferno grind is simply boring. Useful loot almost never drops, so it's just a question of farming endless gold to spend on the auction house. That's a chore, not a game. I put in well over 100 hours before I tired of it, so it's still a good game... but it just doesn't have the same long-term appeal of Diablo 2.

[Voigtkampf]

It can be done, but its a convoluted and difficult task. You can't use the default Blizzard Balance, because you can never, ever cash it out. Its like store credits. To make real money you have to link your account to a paypal account, and then deal with all the fees. Basically:

Min. selling price of $1.
Blizz takes a $1 cut from every item you sell.
There's a 15% transaction fee for using PayPal.

This means in order to make money, you have to charge a lot (imo). If I was interested in buying things from the RMAH, I wouldn't want to spend more than $.50 or maybe $1.25. Unfortunately, its impossible to sell things at that price and make a profit. Which means that you're best off not even using the RMAH to sell items unless you come accross something truly godly, that you can feel justified charging a high price for. Unless, of course, there's a lot of D3 players out there willing to spend a lot more money than I would be comfortable spending.

I'm intrigued by the RMAH (not offended, like lots of people) but it does leave a wierd taste in my mouth, so to speak.

I actually started considering the possibility to play some D3 and make some money off of it. Tried to talk about a friend with it last night, but he just couldn't put a finger on the actual value of average gaming hour in RM terms. I know about Blizzard taking its cut and the 15% fee, but if you need to play ten hours a day and earn 2-3$, then it is not really worth it...

[Zim]

Sorry to hear that. I'd been keeping an eye out but hadn't had much time to play. You pulled way ahead of me. My main character is still around 44 or so. and finishing Act 2 of Nightmare. I'd been keeping out of the Auction House but took a peek and was gratified at least my weapon was equal to or better than the 40 or so pages of level appropriate crossbows being sold. Something I'm sure won't last...

At this point I'm not sure if the long term appeal of the game will match Diablo 2 for me. One thing I kind of wonder about is something I generally consider an improvement, but one that may weaken replay value. Way back a younger Zim was instantly attracted to a certain class (Necromancer) and played through the game two or so times just kind of screwing around, putting skill points in whatever I thought was cool. Don't think I even beat Nightmare with those first two characters (and I never got into playing into the levels higher than NM). Eventually I read about builds and why it's good to sink all of your points into Bone Spear and/or the Blood or Fire Golems (whichever you liked better), skeleton builds, etc. I'd get excited about a new build and have to bring a new character at least through all of Normal Mode to give them a good try. I eventually branched out to other classes and did some of the same, although I never was able to get up the enthusiasm to make a lot of characters in any single other class and bring them that far.

In Diablo 3 I'm very appreciative of being able to switch my skills around whenever I want. It's a great feature. However, it does mean it will be a long time before I play through the game with any character of a class I've already tried a second time. Even worse, there's only one class I'm really interested in. Chances are I'll get my Demon Hunter up to level 60, maybe make it through normal with another class, and then step away from the game for a while, at least until the expansion comes out.


I declare myself done with this game. Got two level 60 characters, and it's just not any fun. The Inferno grind is simply boring. Useful loot almost never drops, so it's just a question of farming endless gold to spend on the auction house. That's a chore, not a game. I put in well over 100 hours before I tired of it, so it's still a good game... but it just doesn't have the same long-term appeal of Diablo 2.

[Papewaio]

Finished normal last week ...typically get 20 mins a day with a few longer times... Doesn't help that Australia is on US servers (at least the same patching cycle) and the patches are done from about 8pm here in Aus so wham goes one of my main times.

Anyhow playin hardcore now. Much more on my toes and painful when a character dies. Also must be much more in tune with abilities and be much more ready to fight elite mobs and know when to run.

[Fragony]

HYPOTHESIS what if Diablo 3 was a girl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I43GUnZN_s4&feature=youtube_gdata_player