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Montmorency
08-07-2012, 02:56
If there are still three, the game is over unless a killer is lynched today.
Why were there two kills last night, and none the night before?
If Ishmael was killed by Jarema to make room for edse, why didn't he just appoint edse in the first place? Why would he do that? Why would the scum do it the hard way? A sense of chivalry and fair play? I doubt it.
why didn't he just appoint edse in the first place? Why would he do that?
To gain trust, I was in fact investigating edse, but someone "distracted" me and then lynched me :P
I would explain the second kill with Jarema not blocking me anymore, with Chaotix talking nonsense...
Anyway you seem to know best, so go ahead and win this XD
Montmorency
08-07-2012, 03:09
Ok...
yet Jarema can only block nobles. :undecided:
rickinator9
08-07-2012, 03:16
Well, surely me and Rickinator were not there
That I hadn't seen this before! He's trying to imply I'm scum with this dubious comment, which I am not. Vote: Jarema
Ok...
yet Jarema can only block nobles. :undecided:
I don't know the mafia roles etc, could be he was doing the killing and they have a roleblocker too, but I feel a connection working that way: it's just that much more reasonable than 3 mafiosi in my wagon...
Otherwise why didn't he protect the king tonight? And how come edse wasn't protecting the streets? At least one of them wasn't doing what he was supposed to do...
Montmorency
08-07-2012, 04:00
I don't know the mafia roles etc
It's...
Otherwise why didn't he protect the king tonight?
that. Well, alright. Could, however, be good old incompetence.
To be fair to edse, patrolling the streets gives a "chance" at protection.
Facts remain that:
- Chaotix lied, because if he was a neutral roleblocker, he would've unlocked an event on me; unless his role is incredibly different from mine.
- Jarema didn't protect the king and the very same night the latter dies; if the second kill was one on the king blocked all this time, he would've got a result PM about his successful protection and if he did stop, really he deserves to lose and die.
That's what atm makes most sense to me, then I'm dead and can't do anything about it ^^
As for edse, surely he will pop up saying he patrolled and failed tonight, while last night he senselessly was a watchman and fit perfectly with the framing operation by Chaotix, because saying that he could've prevented the attacks would've ruined it...
I see too many events fitting together and I don't believe it was all random...
Alternative is that Jarema and edse are indeed drunk and doing the worst job possible and the mafia are all together in my wagon: gah?
- Jarema didn't protect the king and the very same night the latter dies; if the second kill was one on the king blocked all this time, he would've got a result PM about his successful protection and if he did stop, really he deserves to lose and die.
uhh
I never protected the king. I didnt thought about him as a 'noble' (at the list of players there are nobles, there are commoners, and there is king - three categories)
Great maker!
So like my posts in the council, about protecting him since D1, were a joke to you? lol
Hooray for town shooting itself in the foot... Twice! XD
As for edse, surely he will pop up saying he patrolled and failed tonight, while last night he senselessly was a watchman and fit perfectly with the framing operation by Chaotix, because saying that he could've prevented the attacks would've ruined it...
I see too many events fitting together and I don't believe it was all random...
Alternative is that Jarema and edse are indeed drunk and doing the worst job possible and the mafia are all together in my wagon: gah?
I'm still waiting for my result pm so I can't say anything yet.
Vote: rickinator9
I'm still waiting for my result pm so I can't say anything yet.
Ya, you obviously forgot whether you patrolled or kept the townwatch: so confusing XD
Jarema did you inform edse that you were blocking someone else? If so, here is Chaotix's partner...
Ya, you obviously forgot whether you patrolled or kept the townwatch: so confusing XD
Jarema did you inform edse that you were blocking someone else? If so, here is Chaotix's partner...
I was in the gate tower as last night.
Ibn-Khaldun
08-07-2012, 14:34
uhh
I never protected the king. I didnt thought about him as a 'noble' (at the list of players there are nobles, there are commoners, and there is king - three categories)
I thought it was obvious that he also is a noble? I guess i should have been more clear about that.
I'm still waiting for my result pm so I can't say anything yet.
Vote: rickinator9
Night results will be sent out now.
Night results will be sent out now.
As for edse, surely he will pop up saying he patrolled and failed tonight, while last night he senselessly was a watchman and fit perfectly with the framing operation by Chaotix, because saying that he could've prevented the attacks would've ruined it...
I see too many events fitting together and I don't believe it was all random...
Alternative is that Jarema and edse are indeed drunk and doing the worst job possible and the mafia are all together in my wagon: gah?
Good call Arjos. I was roleblocked tonight, someone gave me wine to drink and I passed out.
You are pushing it too hard and try to say things before I do to lower my credibility.
Well
I acted stupid entire game. I forgot that I can not only roleblock but also protect.
Last night, I tried to target Atheotes, and got note that I could not found him at castle :(
epic fail
Well, looks like I made a bad call with Arjos.
Don't know exactly what his alignment was, but given there were two kills last night, it's unlikely he was a killer.
I don't know why people think I tried to frame him though. In a one kill per night game where you have a role block ability, what would you do in my situation? Obviously night actions are more complex than I had thought.
I roleblocked edse. The assigned power roles are the most dangerous in the hands of mafia, so I have been blocking them to make sure they are not scum. I'm only figuring out now that's probably a bad idea. So I can go after unknown quantities instead from now on.
Vote:DaveShack
Who is an unknown but not about to wog'd.
Montmorency
08-08-2012, 00:10
That's your contribution after 30 hours of lurking? This is what you've been waiting for?
There's nothing else to say. I agree with the post that proceeded me.
The assigned power roles are the most dangerous in the hands of mafia
Oh yeah, a mafia with scanning and protecting abilities: RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!
Why isn't the town lynching this scumbag?
Ibn-Khaldun
08-08-2012, 16:48
You have ~3 hours left for voting.
Tally:
2 DaveShack - Chaotix, Xenoneb
1 Chaotix - Montmorency
1 Jarema - rickinator9
1 rickinator9 - edse
Not voted: classical_hero, King Jan III Sobieski, Ignoramus, DaveShack, Jarema
Why not. Unvote;Vote: Chaotix
classical_hero
08-08-2012, 17:45
vote:Choatix
Ibn-Khaldun
08-08-2012, 21:07
Day 4 is over!
Tally:
3 Chaotix - Montmorency, Xenoneb, classical_hero
1 DaveShack - Chaotix
1 Jarema - rickinator9
1 rickinator9 - edse
Not voted: King Jan III Sobieski, Ignoramus, DaveShack, Jarema
DaveShack
08-09-2012, 05:12
Sorry I missed it, my water heater was leaking and had to be replaced, which kept me away from the computer.
Ibn-Khaldun
08-09-2012, 14:42
Write-up will be up soon.. Sry for this delay.. I waited something.
Ibn-Khaldun
08-09-2012, 15:06
Day 4
Once the people heard that their King was poisoned the city fell into chaos. After the riots were finally put down by the guards the last people gathered in front of the castle to continue what their King started. That murderer was still out there. Soon, it was clear that Chaotix will be lynched by the mob. As the people moved closer he grabbed his sword, hidden underneath his clothes, and tried to defend himself. He pierced Ignoramus and slashed through King Jan III Sobieski's throat but it didn't help him. His weapons and stuff were taken away and the people stoned him to death.
The list of people in the town:
1. -
2. -
3. -
4. -
5. rickinator9 Noble
6. classical_hero Commoner
7. -
8. edse Commoner
9. Jarema Noble
10. -
11. Montmorency Commoner
12. -
13. DaveShack Commoner
14. -
15. Xenoneb Noble
Royal advisors:
Jarema - Marshal
edse is the Town Watch
Dead:
Ishmael - Commoner, Castle Guard, Innkeeper (Town) (killed N1)
The Celtic Viking - Noble (lynched D2)
Arjos - Commoner, Spy (lynched D3)
atheotes - Commoner, Crusader (Neutral) (killed N3)
BSmith - King (Town) (killed N3)
Chaotix - Commoner, Mercenary (Neutral) (lynched D4)
Ignoramus - Commoner (killed D4) (Town)(WOG)
King Jan III Sobieski - Commoner, Thug (Neutral) (killed D4) (WOG)
Night 4 will end about ~24 hours from this post!
Har! So many neutrals lol
Anyway with Chaotix out of the way, town can finally protect or scan...
Though right now, I have my money on Xenoneb and Classical as mafia, with an incredible stroke of luck on TCV XD
Montmorency
08-10-2012, 00:42
Why exactly were there no alignment reveals for TCV and Arjos? At first I figured lynchees' are omitted, but with Chaotix and the WoGs...
classical_hero
08-10-2012, 07:48
vote:Daveshack I am not certain about who to lynch, but this is just a gut feeling.
well
that post leads me to gut feeling that vote: classical hero is better option
Hey! What are you doing out here in the middle of the night? Go back to sleep!
classical_hero
08-10-2012, 12:21
:laugh4: I thought it was day, not night. No wonder why there weren't many votes.
Ibn-Khaldun
08-11-2012, 16:41
Night 4 is over!
Ibn-Khaldun
08-11-2012, 18:33
Night 4
rickinator9 barricaded his door and made other preparations to make sure he will not be another victim to the mysterious killer. After all was done he sat next to his window and being tired from all that work he took a sip of wine. That was the last thing he did. A crossbow bolt pierced his head and he fell to the floor..
The list of people in the town:
1. -
2. -
3. -
4. -
5. -
6. classical_hero Commoner
7. -
8. edse Commoner
9. Jarema Noble
10. -
11. Montmorency Commoner
12. -
13. DaveShack Commoner
14. -
15. Xenoneb Noble
Royal advisors:
Jarema - Marshal
edse is the Town Watch
Dead:
Ishmael - Commoner, Castle Guard, Innkeeper (Town) (killed N1)
The Celtic Viking - Noble (lynched D2)
Arjos - Commoner, Spy (lynched D3)
atheotes - Commoner, Crusader (Neutral) (killed N3)
BSmith - King (Town) (killed N3)
Chaotix - Commoner, Mercenary (Neutral) (lynched D4)
Ignoramus - Commoner (killed D4) (Town)(WOG)
King Jan III Sobieski - Commoner, Thug (Neutral) (killed D4) (WOG)
rickinator9 - Noble (killed N4)
classical_hero
08-11-2012, 18:40
Continuing from my night vote, vote:Daveshack
Vote: Jarema either he's scum or extremely unlucky.
Rickinator is listed both as alive and dead...
vote: Daveshack
last night I targeted Xenoneb. I believe he is not guilty
Montmorency
08-11-2012, 20:29
Jarema - this is critical: whom did you target on previous nights?
night 3: Atheotes. I forgot I cannot target commoners :(
night 2: well, sorry, but I cannot recall. I do not have pm with result. It is even possible that I forgot to do anything (but also possible I deleted that message) :(
night 1: rickinator, I was with him entire night
and as I said before, night 4: Xenoneb. Whole night together
Ibn-Khaldun
08-11-2012, 22:54
Rickinator is listed both as alive and dead...
Fixed now.
Montmorency
08-11-2012, 23:48
Alright.
Now, I recall some questions raised over the fact that Ishmael, when made Town Watch, was killed immediately - while edse has survived up to this point.
Edse also raises the point that Jarema has never been under any threat.
I think I have an idea of the sequence of events that preceded this day: Ishmael was made TW, killed, Edse was made TW, edse happened to be scum so no one killed edse, scum don't kill Jarema because he is no threat (meaning either no nobles are scum or TCV was scum).
However, on N3 there were two kills, despite edse's being blocked. Chaotix couldn't have done it; he's known to be neutral and his block of edse was confirmed.
On that night of two kills, BSmith the King was one if them. Note the circumstances: Arjos, one of the two assigned power roles, was lynched. There was only one kill last night, during which Xenon was blocked. This might implicate Xenon as the second killer, but it could also mean that there is a specific sine qua non for Mafia to make a second kill (e.g. in the absence of a major role, only on the King etc.) OR that atheotes died by the failure of his own neutral action OR that Xenon is in fact a vig/SK.
On the other hand, Jarema's ignorance of his own action on N2 - the night of no kills - and misaction on N3 - the night of two kills - is suspicious, especially given that he was at that point the only one with access to the King. Did he try to protect Atheotes, forgetting his own limitations, or did he kill him?
But I don't believe Jarema could be scum. If edse is scum, he must have two partners alive - Xenon and Dave, presumably. There isn't another way, if he is scum and was blocked on the night of two kills. In that case, town has already lost. We'll discard it.
Addendum: It is also possible that edse has in fact prevented a kill, one day or another. He should clarify that he has never received news after patrolling the streets.
Montmorency
08-11-2012, 23:50
Vote: Xenon
Vote:Montmorency
OMGUS, I know. But it isn't my first vote against you.
Iirc edse didn't even try to prevent kills, he only "scanned" the streets and was allegedly blocked several times...
No idea about last night though...
I'm tempted to call Arjos mafia.
My first night as Town Watch I went to the City Gate Tower. That was because it offers me protection and I thought I was going to be killed as Ishmael was his first night as Town Watch.
The second night I went to the Gate Tower again but was blocked by Chaotix.
Last night I finally patrolled the street with no result.
The only person I might have been able to protect was atheotes but that night I was blocked anyway.
At the night with no kill, night 2, Arjos was blocked by Chaotix.
Arjos is mafia together with Jarema.
ah
now I feel like unvote; vote: Edse
Montmorency
08-12-2012, 09:51
The thing is: Arjos was blocked, and there were no kills,
HOWEVER -
There were two kills the night after Arjos was lynched.
The thing is: Arjos was blocked, and there were no kills,
HOWEVER -
There were two kills the night after Arjos was lynched.
There are two killers left, one using poisoned wine and one using crossbow.
Montmorency
08-12-2012, 10:11
Only BSmith was killed with poisoned wine...
Only BSmith was killed with poisoned wine...
But I suspect rickinator9 would have been as well.
rickinator9 barricaded his door and made other preparations to make sure he will not be another victim to the mysterious killer. After all was done he sat next to his window and being tired from all that work he took a sip of wine. That was the last thing he did. A crossbow bolt pierced his head and he fell to the floor..
Montmorency
08-12-2012, 10:44
I imagine a crossbow bolt to the head is more likely to kill instantly than poisoned wine...
You are implying that the killers - if there are two killers - both attacked Rick last night, i.e. one is a serial killer.
What exactly are you suggesting, that Arjos, Jarema and some SK make up the three scum, and the SK could only kill once one of the Mafia had been lynched?
Alright. In that case, the Mafia must be using the crossbow, as it was present in the N1 kill.
This leads to the conclusion that a serial killer killed the King as his first target. Why would he do that? It's the Mafia who want to get rid of the King.
That just don't make no sense.
I imagine a crossbow bolt to the head is more likely to kill instantly than poisoned wine...
You are implying that the killers - if there are two killers - both attacked Rick last night, i.e. one is a serial killer.
What exactly are you suggesting, that Arjos, Jarema and some SK make up the three scum, and the SK could only kill once one of the Mafia had been lynched?
Alright. In that case, the Mafia must be using the crossbow, as it was present in the N1 kill.
This leads to the conclusion that a serial killer killed the King as his first target. Why would he do that? It's the Mafia who want to get rid of the King.
That just don't make no sense.
I know.
You are voting Xenoneb, he can't be mafia without Jarema being it.
Montmorency
08-12-2012, 11:02
Classical?
You are voting Xenoneb, he can't be mafia without Jarema being it.
At least I agree here.
Classical?
Jarema and classical is what I believe right now. There is some weird things about it though so I don't know.
Guys: edse's activity + his suspects changing at every post + the amount of nonsense he told = scum ^^
It's simple math really lol
Not to mention we have killers keeping power roles alive, what's up with that?
Guys: edse's activity + his suspects changing at every post + the amount of nonsense he told = scum ^^
It's simple math really lol
Not to mention we have killers keeping power roles alive, what's up with that?
I haven't changed my opinion once today, you, Jarema and classical are scum in my opinion.
Ibn-Khaldun
08-12-2012, 20:21
Tally:
1 DaveShack - classical_hero
1 Jarema - edse
1 Xenoneb - Montmorency
1 Montmorency - Xenoneb
1 edse - Jarema
I don't like ties... especially this kind of ties.
I'll give 12 more hours for voting!
classical_hero
DaveShack
edse
Jarema
Montmorency
Xenoneb
Two scum. Wrong lynch and we lose.
Xenoneb only possible companion is Jarema, why don't you change your vote Montmorency?
Montmorency
08-12-2012, 21:21
Xenon-Classical is technically possible.
Xenon-Classical is technically possible.
But Jarema says he blocked Xenoneb last night and a Noble were killed.
Montmorency
08-12-2012, 21:58
But Jarema says he blocked Xenoneb last night and a Noble were killed.
...So what?
Unvote;Vote:Classic
Very clever...
Unvote: vote: classical_hero
Ibn-Khaldun
08-13-2012, 09:00
Tally:
2 classical_hero - Xenoneb, edse
1 DaveShack - classical_hero
1 Xenoneb - Montmorency
1 edse - Jarema
Day 5 is over.
Ibn-Khaldun
08-13-2012, 11:35
Day 5
Remaining people had no idea what to do next. They voted but voting led to ties. FIn the end classical_hero was found quilty and executioner beheaded him. As the sun set, the rest went to their homes. It semmed that finally this is all over.
The list of people in the town:
1. -
2. -
3. -
4. -
5. -
6. -
7. -
8. edse Commoner
9. Jarema Noble
10. -
11. Montmorency Commoner
12. -
13. DaveShack Commoner
14. -
15. Xenoneb Noble
Royal advisors:
Jarema - Marshal
edse is the Town Watch
Dead:
Ishmael - Commoner, Castle Guard, Innkeeper (Town) (killed N1)
The Celtic Viking - Noble (lynched D2)
Arjos - Commoner, Spy (lynched D3)
atheotes - Commoner, Crusader (Neutral) (killed N3)
BSmith - King (Town) (killed N3)
Chaotix - Commoner, Mercenary (Neutral) (lynched D4)
Ignoramus - Commoner (killed D4) (Town)(WOG)
King Jan III Sobieski - Commoner, Thug (Neutral) (killed D4) (WOG)
rickinator9 - Noble (killed N4)
classical_hero - Commoner (lynched D5)
Night 5 will end in ~24 hours(or less)!
Montmorency
08-13-2012, 15:53
Jarema, please, ah, continue protecting.
rickinator9
08-13-2012, 17:41
I find it a coincidence Montmorency is still alive while he is clearly thinking the most.
Montmorency
08-13-2012, 18:28
I'm not the only one thinking, and killing me won't shut me up in this game...
Ibn-Khaldun
08-14-2012, 12:36
Night 5 ended!
Ibn-Khaldun
08-18-2012, 18:48
I apologize disappearing like that. I'm on a vacation and got an invitation I just couldn't refuse.
However, I only left because the game is actually over. Who won? Was it the mafia? The town? Or perhaps someone else? We will find that out really soon!
Montmorency
08-18-2012, 20:16
As Arjos would say:
GAH XD
Mafia victory, Jarema and ?
Ibn-Khaldun
08-18-2012, 22:32
Night 5
Jarema was on his way to the castle. He had tried to be a good Marshal but for some reason everything had gone wrong. He still didn't managed to catch the rebel and felt guilty for all the people who had died. He was close to the castle when he welt sudden pain in his chest. As he watched down he saw a crossbow bolt sticking through his clothes. He pulled out his sword just seconds before another bolt went through his head.
In the morning the last people gathered once again. But something was different from previous days. The way others looked at Montmorency. Suddenly he noticed that he was surrounded by DaveShack, Xenoneb and edse. He grabbed his crossbow but others raised their weapons as well.. Montmorency shot Xenoneb who got wounded into his arm. DaveShack had taken his bow and an arrow pierced Montmorency's left arm. He threw down his crossbow and grabbed his big knife. However, it was too late. edse had sneaked closer to him and ended Montmorency's life with a blow with his mace.
The last three nodded to each other and turned towards other citizens. They promised that if the people will follow the teachings of Islam they all will be spared. As their king was dead and there was no one else to turn to they agreed...
Saracen Brotherhood (Cult) victory!
Congratulations to DaveShack, edse and Xenoneb!
The list of people in the town:
1. -
2. -
3. -
4. -
5. -
6. -
7. -
8. edse Commoner, Town Watch, Saracen (Cult)
9. -
10. -
11. -
12. -
13. DaveShack - Commoner, Saracen Master (Cult)
14. -
15. Xenoneb - Noble, Saracen (Cult)
Dead:
Ishmael - Commoner, Castle Guard, Innkeeper (Town) (killed N1)
The Celtic Viking - Noble, Usurper (Mafia) (lynched D2)
Arjos - Commoner, Spy, Thug (Neutral) (lynched D3)
atheotes - Commoner, Crusader (Neutral) (killed N3)
BSmith - King (Town) (killed N3)
Chaotix - Commoner, Mercenary (Neutral/previously Mafia) (lynched D4)
Ignoramus - Commoner (killed D4) (Town)(WOG)
King Jan III Sobieski - Commoner, Thug (Neutral) (killed D4) (WOG)
rickinator9 - Noble (Town) (killed N4)
classical_hero - Commoner, Jester (Town) (lynched D5)
Jarema - Noble, Marshal (Town) (killed N5)
Montmorency - Commoner, Rebel (Mafia) (killed D6)
Montmorency
08-18-2012, 22:41
:jawdrop:
FLAWLESS VICTORY
To think I spared edse to kill Jarema...
Alright, perhaps the Mafia wasn't relatively OP after all.
What could the cult do?
A bit mean to have 6 of 15 be town, though.
I was part of a cult?
you were recruited this last night. I was the night before.
Montmorency
08-18-2012, 22:53
I assume Daveshack killed Atheotes, then. What was he doing the first two nights?
I killed the King. In addition to making poison, I could evade spy and kill attempts. Chaotix could kill upon being lynched as well as night-kill, but forgot to send his order on the fateful day.
I was the Rebel. The same exact role as the first time around. TCV could convert twice, and Arjos scanned convertible on N1. Had he survived, we would have controlled the lynch for the remainder of the game.
So you didn't outspy the Mafia spy this time, Arjos. But almost. What an amazing coincidence, eh?
:jawdrop:
FLAWLESS VICTORY
To think I spared edse to kill Jarema...
well, it is hard to catch newly recruited cult...
I see why the town felt so awful: there wasn't any to begin with! XD
I see why the town felt so awful: there wasn't any to begin with! XD
At the beginning of night 4 we were 5 town, 1 mafia and 1 cult
classical_hero
08-19-2012, 14:19
I told you so. I fingered Dave, but no one listened to me, which I find par for the course.
Montmorency
08-19-2012, 18:19
At the beginning of night 4 we were 5 town, 1 mafia and 1 cult
Was Xenon town or neutral? What was Dave doing the first two nights? And who killed Atheotes?
Well, shocking. No one fingered me, at least.
It's just a shame BSmith recognized his old role in TCV, or else:
D1 - townie lynch
N1 - townie kill, Arjos scan
D2 - townie lynch
N2 - 2 townies killed, arjos recruited
D3 - going into lynch with 4 scum and 6 not, 2 of whom inactive - and one scum had one-shot lynch immunity, meaning 5 lynches needed for town to win; in addition, we would have had two kills nightly and Arjos could have claimed scum-scan of whomever - we could have admitted to being scum N3, and it would have been impossible for anyone to stop us
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