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[Centurion1]

Really? I was unaware. I thought we merely had the selective service as I had mentioned above. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Service_System)



No one forces internships and "unpaid overtime" is not unpaid, you're merely working harder the same pay. Both are choices, usually with a personal benefit of some value.

Are you this out of tune with american history?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_the_United_States

[Montmorency]

Hahaha. You have an alluring idea of our road to prosperity. I am intrigued, please tell us more.

Mandate a life-time draft for all residents of the United States, merge the two major political parties, and induct all residents of the United States into the Single Party. This way, with the entire polity both members of the ruling party and the military, will provide for the most stable state ever.

Is that what you want to hear? I'm merely pointing out the fallacy in treating state mandates and other mandates as functionally distinct.

[ICantSpellDawg]

Having some understanding of the selective service system implies a knowledge of the draft. Yes I am aware that there used to be a draft for the past 200 years on an off and that we maintain that capability in the selective service system. My point was that we used to use draconian measures to force thinking and activity but we have been getting further away from that. That progressive distance may go in reverse with an electorate that is becoming more tolerant of socialist and draconian policy making, but I have faith that we are overcoming that as a people.

[ICantSpellDawg]

Mandate a life-time draft for all residents of the United States, merge the two major political parties, and induct all residents of the United States into the Single Party. This way, with the entire polity both members of the ruling party and the military, will provide for the most stable state ever.

Is that what you want to hear? I'm merely pointing out the fallacy in treating state mandates and other mandates as functionally distinct.

I don't know you well enough to know if you are joking or not, but State mandates are distinct in that they have deadly or freedom destroying force behind them to a totally different extent than "other mandates". So yes, giving the government an expaned role in forcing people to do things is something that is shortsighted and awful and something that I thought we were leaving behind.

[Montmorency]

I don't know you well enough to know if you are joking or not, but State mandates are distinct in that they have deadly or freedom destroying force behind them to a totally different extent than "other mandates". So yes, giving the government an expaned role in forcing people to do things is something that is shortsighted and awful.

You are claiming a difference of degree, not a difference of kind.


shortsighted and awful.

Elaborate.

[Hooahguy]

Offering kids college tuition for service is one thing, but I remember reading "mandatory" in your post. Purchasing service in an exchange is one thing, mandate is another. But I guess now the government can just tax kids to compel them into service, so maybe you have a point. So you'd prefer a "mandatory" but paid service. I call bull on that. Make the offer good enough and you won't have to mandate anything for the vast majority.
Make it mandatory in exchange for a 50% decrease in tuition across the board. Bam, problem solved.



BTW, Israel is an apartheid state.

Then you clearly have no idea of what an apartheid state is.

[ICantSpellDawg]

Or you could just give them a 50% reduction if they do a year or 2 of qualified service.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_the_apartheid_analogy

[Hooahguy]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_the_apartheid_analogy
You just gave a link that cut both ways. Whats your point.

[a completely inoffensive name]

You just gave a link that cut both ways. Whats your point.

He has none.

[ICantSpellDawg]

You just gave a link that cut both ways. Whats your point.

I always give links that cut both ways. I do this because nearly everything cuts both ways

[PanzerJaeger]

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.

[Fragony]

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.

Awesome, can I borrow that