Interstellar Ship One - mini mafia game [Concluded]

[Jarema]

Setting:
In year 2112 firs interstellar ship was sent to the Alpha Centauri A (Toliman), where earth-like planet was observed in year 2078. Unnofficial name of this ship was 'Einstein's Pride' as it was traveling with a speed close to the speed of light itself. It was estimated that ship wil arrive at Toliman system after 6 years of travel. Due to relativistic effects, it will amount to 9 weeks of on-board time.
The best representatives of United States of Northen Hemisphere were sent on this ship, in the number of ten. Everyone hoped, that they will find alien life on Toliman's planet...

After four weeks of flight, body of ship's captain was found. It seems someone on the board does not want this mission to succeed.

Mechanics:
1. Game for 9 players
2. There are two mafia players: master (who is able to conduct night kill) and apprentice (who will become master after death of previous one)
3. All townies are vanilla, but:
4. Each day, all players not only vote for lynching someone (in traditional vote: Jarema format), but also they vote for roleblocking one player (in jail: Jarema format).
5. Mafia may decide not to kill
6. There will always be exactly 1 player lynched everyday, with exception of day one. No lynch is not a legal vote. In case of ties, I will randomize results. At day one, at least 2 votes are needed to lynch anyone.
7. IF town manages somehow to survive (in higher number than mafia) untill end of flight (start of day 5), town wins
8. If I manage to do that (I must contact someone who can do it for me), anonymous accounts would be used (or is it an overkill for mini mafia? I just want to test how game 'behaves' with anonymous accounts). EDIT: confirmed. Anonymous accounts would be used.
9. There would be no WoGing for non-activity. But please, be active!
10. No private communication, please


Sign-ups:
1. BSmith
2. Montmorency
3. Arjos
4. Askthepizzaguy
5. Memnon
6. Double A
7. Atheotes
8. Ishmael
9. DaveShack

Reserve/potential player:
Chaotix

[BSmith]

in.

[Montmorency]

In.

[Jarema]

Welcome

could someone tell me who I should contact in matter of anonymous accounts?

[Visor]

TinCow

Could you please help Jarema with his anon accounts.

[TinCow]

Welcome

could someone tell me who I should contact in matter of anonymous accounts?

I can take care of that for you. When you have completed sign-ups, PM or tag me and I'll assign the anonymous accounts to the entire group.

[Arjos]

In and YES to the anons ^^
I know people hate them, but I just fell in love with them since "The Thing" :P

[Jarema]

I can take care of that for you. When you have completed sign-ups, PM or tag me and I'll assign the anonymous accounts to the entire group.

Thanks :)

As for anons: I never played with them nor hosted with them. And I definitely want to try it

And Visor: thank you; will you join?

[Double A]

no preference

[Askthepizzaguy]

Come sail away with me....

Through Interstellar space.

Did you know? All space is interstellar.

[Arjos]

Did you know? All space is interstellar.

What about intrastellar space eh? :D

[Memnon]

I'm in, especially with the anonymous accounts. The Thing was the reason I got into mafia on the org in the first place. Reenk had an amazing game.

[johnhughthom]

Come sail away with me....

Through Interstellar space.

Did you know? All space is interstellar.

Actually...

It isn't really interstellar until you get outside of a solar system.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Actually...

It isn't really interstellar until you get outside of a solar system.

in·ter·stel·lar
   [in-ter-stel-er]
adjective
Astronomy . situated or occurring between the stars: interstellar dust.


So long as it is between other stars, it is interstellar. Since stars encompass all of known space, all known space is interstellar.

[johnhughthom]

And I could post links and quotes supporting my point of view. It can be either, I don't think there is a definitive definition, but 90% of science fiction or science books I read will use the term interstellar to mean the space between star systems. Probably more a debate for the Frontroom though.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Conventional usage is what most people recognize, and you're right that this is what it conventionally means. But, according to each dictionary I've come across, technically, it encompasses more than just the space outside of star systems, since the space within star systems also meets the same criterion.

A frontroom debate seems excessive, honestly. BACK TO THE GAME!!!

[johnhughthom]

Pedantic pizza doesn't taste very good... :clown:

[Montmorency]

Conventional usage is what most people recognize, and you're right that this is what it conventionally means. But, according to each dictionary I've come across, technically, it encompasses more than just the space outside of star systems, since the space within star systems also meets the same criterion.


Yes, and technically getting a pothole fixed is a matter of international politics.

Only a mafioso deals in pedantries. Prevote: ATPG

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yes, and technically getting a pothole fixed is a matter of international politics.

Not really. If I, on a whim, decided to buy some concrete and pour it into a random pothole, that's not really a political decision, but a personal one.

Do not dance the dance of technical definitions with Pizzaguy in the pale moonlight, which is actually pale starlight.

[Montmorency]

:dizzy2:

Not necessarily. If a city council in the USA is the entity deliberating, say, then, being on a spheroid, this is politics taking place geographically between nations - Japan and South Africa, for example.

Why are you doing this? It's just plain immoral.

[Double A]

Not entirely sure why you think I would come into a mafia thread where the host is asking people if they want anon accounts and say "no preference" and not want in on the game. :|

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why are you doing this? It's just plain immoral.

I'm a bad dude, Monty. Purely for fun, I lie to random strangers and murder my friends.

Maybe they're not actually dead, but that's still :daisy:ed up right there.

[Jarema]

Not entirely sure why you think I would come into a mafia thread where the host is asking people if they want anon accounts and say "no preference" and not want in on the game. :|

?
I do not know if understand...

I decided to have anonymous accounts, if there is no huge opposition to this idea. As I see there is not, I decide that there WILL be anonymous accounts.

[Arjos]

?
I do not know if understand...

He's saying that he wants in too :P

[Jarema]

ah
ok
thanks :D

Sometimes my not-so-good english puts me in situation where I cannot distinguish between literal meaning and other one.

[Visor]

Thanks :)

As for anons: I never played with them nor hosted with them. And I definitely want to try it

And Visor: thank you; will you join?

Sorry, but no. The Climb is the last game I will be dealing with for a while.

[Double A]

ah
ok
thanks :D

Sometimes my not-so-good english puts me in situation where I cannot distinguish between literal meaning and other one.

Wait, English isn't your first language? You certainly fooled me.

I'm on to you.

[Visor]

He's Polish.

[johnhughthom]

Polished what? Polished off a bottle of vodka? Typical Pole...

[Chaotix]

I'm a bad dude, Monty. Purely for fun, I lie to random strangers and murder my friends.

Maybe they're not actually dead, but that's still :daisy:ed up right there.

But the real question is...

Are you a bad enough dude to rescue the President?

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[Jarema]

Wait, English isn't your first language? You certainly fooled me.


So, I suppose you are not native speaker yourself? I would think that my grammar (and other) errors are evident for native speakers especially.


AND... please, someomne, sign in!

[Chaotix]

Put me down as a reserve in case you don't get enough.

I'm in a lot of games already at the moment, but I wouldn't want to see this one not be able to run.

[atheotes]

sign me up

[Double A]

So, I suppose you are not native speaker yourself? I would think that my grammar (and other) errors are evident for native speakers especially.


AND... please, someomne, sign in!

Oh, I don't speak English at all. I speak Murican. That's probably where the confusion comes from.

[Ishmael]

I've been trying to avoid having more than two simultaneous games of late, but surely a mini game won't hurt....

[Jarema]

So, there are 8 players now, and Chaotix who is ready to play if I do not find ninth player...
I will wait for the last player for about 24 hours from now

[DaveShack]

final spot

[TinCow]

Anonymous accounts have been assigned. You can access them via the Quick Account Switch menu at the top of the forum. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions about the system. Good luck!

[Jarema]

I will start game a few hours from now.

Now, rules addendum (I forget to adress this issue):
no private communication outside of game thread/mafia qt

[[MAFIA] Christopher]

But then how will you PM us our roles?

[Jarema]

I know who you are. I am just unsure, if I should pm roles to your anonymous account, or your 'base' account (or both)

[[MAFIA] Christopher]

:tongue:

You should PM the anon accounts I guess?

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

Christopher's identity is forfeit.

[[MAFIA] Pedro]

Wouldn't it be better to PM the base accounts?

[[MAFIA] Al]

I don't really see why it would be a problem to pm the anon accounts, in fact it would lessen the strain on my inbox and organization.

[[MAFIA] Christopher]

Carlo;2053470571']Christopher's identity is forfeit.

I'm actually fluffy, I sneaked into the game at the last minute.

With magic.

[[MAFIA] Al]

Christopher;2053470576']With magic.

:on_gwow: Magic?!?! Can you make me levitate? :on_please:

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

It is decided: AA shall be the first to die.

[Jarema]

OFFICIAL COMMUNICATE:
All pms would be sent to anonymous accounts (AA).



I will randomize roles and start game about 2 hours from now (now I have to eat my supper - and, before it, actually made it)

[Jarema]

Day one:
Captain Jarema was writing an entry to the ship log, as always at the end of the week:
10:00 pm, Saturday, end of fourth week of onboard time: we are almost at half of the way to Toliman system. Almost everything is going alright, but today I discovered that someone has stolen half of our food reserves. We have enough food to survive, but it means there is a thief onboard. We must find him and put into ship custody before he does more harm. I believe I know who he is. I will write more after confirming it…
That were Jarema’s last words. He was found with his head crushed.

List of living players:
Al
Bertha
Carlo
Christopher
Fat Tony
Joe
Pedro
Pete
Scarface

Day 1 represent Sunday, first day of fifth week of onboard time. Night 1 will represent remaining part of this week.
Remember that you are voting for lynch, AND for roleblocking someone (in format jail: Jarema). Jailing someone does not protect that person from night attacks.

If you do not get any role pm, then you are townie.

Day 1 begins!

[[MAFIA] Al]

Vote: Fat Tony, exactly how fat are you? Also, jail: Joe, I like the sound of it.

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

Vote: Scarface

Jail: Al

[[MAFIA] Pete]

Vote: Christopher, that name is just not usual suspecty enough for me XD

Jail: Bertha: ladies first lol

[[MAFIA] Christopher]

Al;2053470577']:on_gwow: Magic?!?! Can you make me levitate? :on_please:

No way dude, I'm not gonna pay thousands of gold to make a freakin levitate-on-touch spell.


Carlo;2053470578']It is decided: AA shall be the first to die.

I'm not AA, I'm Fluffy. Sheesh.

vote: Pedro
jail: Pete

[[MAFIA] Bertha]

Mwuhaha, I'm finally Bertha. :evil:

vote: Pete for being un-chivalrous.

jail: Scarface for no particular reason.

[[MAFIA] Pedro]

Vote: Al was the first of the usual suspects to vote
Jail: Fat Tony could use to be separated from the pasta for a night

[GeneralHankerchief]

I'm glad the tradition of Bertha being in every anonymous account game remains alive and well. :laugh4:

[[MAFIA] Christopher]

C'mon, guys, vote for Pedro.

[[MAFIA] Joe]

Vote: Pedro

Jail: Al

Because you asked so nicely.

[[MAFIA] Fat Tony]

OMGUS! Vote: Al
Jail: Bertha - cant trust women!

what happens if the same person is in the lead for both the actions? Lynch takes precedence?

[[MAFIA] Bertha]

Fat Tony;2053470729']
Jail: Bertha - cant trust women!


:stare:

[in Queen Victoria voice] I am not amused.

[Visor]

It's not obvious who Arjos is at all. :laugh4:

[Memnon]

Who, who is he? I feel left out...

[Jarema]

what happens if the same person is in the lead for both the actions? Lynch takes precedence?[/QUOTE]

That person is lynched, and no-one is roleblocked.

Please, do not spam thread with your main accounts. If you want to spam, feel free to do it with anonymous ones

[[MAFIA] Al]

As a life-saving maneuver, I will Unvote; Vote:Pedro. By the way, I didn't really like Napoleon Dynamite, just a fun fact...

[Jarema]

All crew members gathered in a dining room and discussed the best course of action. Soon, they agreed that they should lynch the most suspicious among themselves, in order to save their mission. They decided also to put someone to jail, and see if something bad happens during next week or not.
But without guidance of their captain, it was hard for them to decide whom they should kill, and especially whom they should imprison.

There were two leading candidates for a lynch: Pedro and Al. At first, Al didn’t want to vote for Pedro, but seeing that he himself is in danger, he decided to seal his fate. And soon, Pedro has left the ship… without a spacesuit.
Pedro was an innocent astronaut. .

Jailing someone proved to be even harder decision. Bertha and Al have both two supporters of their imprisoning. It seemed that there is no easy answer as who should be put into custody. But then, one of gentlemen said: ‘Ladies first’
Bertha is roleblocked during night 1

Night 1 begins.



Lynch tally:
Pedro (Christopher, Joe, Al)
Al (Pedro, Fat Tony)
Scarface (Carlo)
Christopher (Pete)
Pete (Bertha)


Jail tally:
Al (Carlo, Joe)
Bertha (Pete, Fat Tony)
Joe (Al)
Pete (Christopher)
Scarface (Bertha)
Fat Tony (Pedro)

List of living players:
Al
Bertha
Carlo
Christopher
Fat Tony
Joe
Pete
Scarface

Dead:
Pedro, innocent, lynched day 1

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

I'm dead.

[[MAFIA] Bertha]

Well, I'm pretty much dead. Mafia will know that if they make a kill tonight I am cleared as not being the master at least, and it would be rather left-field of them to refrain from killing N1.

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

Look, I'M dead.

I'm their highest priority at the moment.

They'll take you further down the line.

[[MAFIA] Joe]

Carlo;2053470859']Look, I'M dead.

I'm their highest priority at the moment.

They'll take you further down the line.

Could you tell me more?

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

Well, you're the scum Atheotes, so there's nothing I need tell you.

I promise I won't reveal you to the others though, even if you kill me.

[[MAFIA] Pete]

Stuck in a ship with murderous thugs and terminally depressed astronauts: what could possibly go wrong? :P

[Jarema]

Warning!
Fecal content ahead!
‘Einstein’s Pride’ sailed through void. During fifth week of their journey, astronauts became the first humans who were closed to other star than to the Sun. But not all of them were happy…
Bertha was, in fact, really depressed. Six days in a jail! And why? Only because she is the single woman onboard?
That wasn’t fair.
What was even less fair, she didn’t have a toilet! She had to use old, rusty bucket. And when it was full, she had to personally dispose of its content.
During fourth day of her imprisonment, she had to empty the bucket for a third time. As always, she knocked the door. And, as always, there was a warder on the opposite side, who opened it for her.
But, this time, when Bertha were passing by him, he acted quite unusual, not like the astronauts who were there before him. ‘Bertha’, he said. ‘I know you for a long time. I know for sure that you couldn’t kill our poor captain. Unfortunately I cannot release you from here, but I can at least help you with this muck’.
Bertha happily allowed the man to carry her bucket when they were walking down the corridor. But, after a moment, she started to think… ‘Wait, how can you be so sure that…’ were her last words. Why last? Because at this very moment, her companion pushed her heads into s**t filling the bucket. It surely was not a pleasant death.

In short, Bertha was killed. She was innocent astronaut.


List of living players:
Al
Carlo
Christopher
Fat Tony
Joe
Pete
Scarface

Dead:
Pedro, innocent, lynched day 1
Bertha, innocent, killed night 1

Day 2 begins.

[[MAFIA] Pete]

Ahahahahahah XD

Do we still vote for the jail?
Also Carlo can you tell us what you know or were you just conjecturing?

[Montmorency]

What a shame.

[Jarema]

1. Votes are still for both lynching and jailing

2. Please do not write from your main accounts here if it can be avoided. Both living and dead players. Dead players can still post from their anonymous accounts if they want so, but they should not reveal any onfo not already in a game thread

[[MAFIA] Bertha]

And we continue the tradition of Bertha dying early in a generally unpleasant manner. I have a sneaking suspicion that the mafia wouldn't have killed me if I didn't outline why they should do so earlier, but never mind :beam:.

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

Vote: Scarface

Jail: Pete

[[MAFIA] Pete]

So all that about Joe was dribbling nonsense?

[[MAFIA] Christopher]

I know you all expect me to make a crappy pun, but I blatantly refuse.


Pete;2053471114']So all that about Joe was dribbling nonsense?

Huh?

[[MAFIA] Pete]

Carlo;2053470859']Look, I'M dead.

I'm their highest priority at the moment.


Carlo;2053470862']Well, you're the scum Atheotes, so there's nothing I need tell you.

Whatever that was...
I especially don't like the priority, being dead etc, out of the blue with no apparent reason...

[[MAFIA] Fat Tony]

I dont like the fact that Al escaped from both the votes
Vote: Al
Jail: Al

[[MAFIA] Al]

Whilst I don't like the fact that you never answered my question... Vote: Fat Tony

Jail: Christopher, just a hunch.

[[MAFIA] Joe]

Vote: Scarface Lurking

Jail: Al Just in case Tony is onto something

[[MAFIA] Scarface]

vote: Joe You can't lurk if you are not here (I lost my internet...)

jail: Al

[[MAFIA] Pete]

Vote: Carlo I'd like him to explain why he would be a top priority: either craving for attention or he wanted to appear siding with Bertha and gain trust by victimizing himself...

Jail: Scarface

[[MAFIA] Christopher]

Well that was a fine discussion. vote: Scarface for lurking and jail: Al.

[Jarema]

Lynch tally:
Scarface (Carlo, Joe, Christopher)
Al (Fat Tony)
Fat Tony (Al)
Joe (Scarface)
Carlo (Pete)

Jail tally:
Al (Fat Tony, Joe, Scarface)
Pete (Carlo)
Christopher (Al)
Scarface (Pete)
Al (Christopher)


I have no time for proper update now, I will do it later. EDIT: No, I will not
Scarface lynched, he was good, loyal astronaut (innocent). Al would be roleblocked.

Night 2 begins.

[Jarema]

Whole next week of flight was really peaceful. Al was sitting at jail, and others were doing their jobs. Goal of their mission was closer and closer. Spirit of the crew was high, when they gathered for a third time in order to determine whom they should lynch and whom they should jail


Day 3 begins.



List of living players:
Al
Carlo
Christopher
Fat Tony
Joe
Pete


Dead:
Pedro, innocent, lynched day 1
Bertha, innocent, killed night 1
Scarface, innocent, lynched day 2

[[MAFIA] Joe]

Vote: Al

Jail: Carlo

I'd be willing to reverse it, put Al in jail again. But Al needs to be resolved one way or the other. Carlo's antics can't be ignored any longer.

[Montmorency]

Vote: Christopher

Jail: Al

That is strong evidence against Al, but I can guarantee you that Christopher is scum.

[[MAFIA] Al]

Oh, great. Is there some other role blocking kind of role in this game? I am innocent, innocent I tells ya! You can jail me again, but I'm telling you, lynching me will just lead to another wasted round. The mafia is framing me! Or a doctor protected or role blocker blocked or something.

[[MAFIA] Pete]

Vote: Christopher

Both him and Joe, so far, have been in the lynching vote...

Jail: Al

The way I see it Al is either mafia or indeed being framed. The good news is the mafia will have to keep up at it or blocking Al stops them, either way jailing him will stop the kill...

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

:shocked:

Yes, it is I ! ! !

I stand by my stance. I die by my death.

Let it be known.

Vote: Christopher

Jail: Al

[[MAFIA] Al]

Oh, I guess I forgot to vote, Vote: Christopher. And Jail: Joe

[[MAFIA] Pete]

BTW if there really is a doctor/blocker (I really doubt that), it would be very helpful to let us know that he did protect/block someone...

[[MAFIA] Joe]

If you do not get any role pm, then you are townie.

There's no other roles, just townie roles.

I have no idea why Monty can "guarantee" that Christopher is scum. By my count, if we mislynch today, the game is over.

So the soft-claim of detective is beyond all scumminess. There will be absolutely zero time to correct the error if the lynch ends in a townie flip. That's game.

You folks are being duped by Monty. That's pretty sad.

[[MAFIA] Joe]

Also, hi, I'm Askthepizzaguy, reminderer of townies when bad stuff is about to happen.

You really need to lynch whoever it is that Monty is. Is that Carlo? Has to be.

Jail Al, lynch Carlo. I think my original vote was the correct one this round.

Al, if you're actually innocent, then you should support this course of action. Nothing bad happens to a townie if they keep getting roleblocked.

[[MAFIA] Joe]

Unvote: Al
Unjail: Carlo

Jail: Al
Vote: Carlo

[[MAFIA] Joe]

(I was mistaken about my original vote. Had the names reversed.)

[[MAFIA] Joe]

Pete;2053471610']Vote: Christopher

Both him and Joe, so far, have been in the lynching vote...

Jail: Al

The way I see it Al is either mafia or indeed being framed. The good news is the mafia will have to keep up at it or blocking Al stops them, either way jailing him will stop the kill...

You're wrong. Count up the survivors. They don't have to "keep" doing anything. This is lynch or lose.

Pete, need your support on this one. There are no detectives in this game. All Monty has to do is force one mislynch. It's in black and white, he's essentially proven scum for even claiming this BS.

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

Whoa, I thought you were Fat Tony.

So, a couple of things: I never claimed detective. I just claimed an excellent scumdar.

There are 6 players, so if Al is scum we have this round and the next to lynch the "minor" mafioso. If Al is not scum, he will be murdered tonight as a proven innocent.

Third, if Al is not scum there is up to a 25% chance of clean victory.

Fourth, I wonder if you aren't partnered with Christopher. He's been online a whole lot lately, yet no post. Waiting for his eloquent partner to step in? Your absence yesterday was noted.

Fifth, everything you've said applies to yourself.

[[MAFIA] Joe]

Carlo;2053471732']Whoa, I thought you were Fat Tony.

So, a couple of things: I never claimed detective. I just claimed an excellent scumdar.

There are 6 players, so if Al is scum we have this round and the next to lynch the "minor" mafioso. If Al is not scum, he will be murdered tonight as a proven innocent.

Third, if Al is not scum there is up to a 25% chance of clean victory.

Fourth, I wonder if you aren't partnered with Christopher. He's been online a whole lot lately, yet no post. Waiting for his eloquent partner to step in? Your absence yesterday was noted.

Fifth, everything you've said applies to yourself.

So now you're backing off of essentially claiming detective. Very big of you.

If Al is not scum and Christopher is not scum the game ends in town defeat. Which is why I've noted that you're making a play to make the lynch go your way here, when there's no recourse, along the lines of soft-claiming detective in a game with no power roles, only to retract it.

So yeah, I'm more than a little suspicious of your overtly scummy action.

My absence yesterday? You're aware these rounds are 24 hours long and I work and sleep, and that I also posted/voted yesterday?

Everything I've said applies to myself. Is that your way of saying "Yeah well you could also be scum"?

Congratulations in advance, but once again, I see what you're doing and you didn't fool ME. I should get a draw every time this happens.

[[MAFIA] Joe]

Vote: Christopher

Jail: Al

That is strong evidence against Al, but I can guarantee you that Christopher is scum.

That's a claim. It's also phrased in such a way that you can back off. In an all-vanilla game.

Under no circumstances should this nonsense ever be pulled on LYLO. If you're townie, I'll take this loss. No way I can let this stand.

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

My absence yesterday? You're aware these rounds are 24 hours long and I work and sleep, and that I also posted/voted yesterday?

Sorry, I was mistaken.


That's a claim. It's also phrased in such a way that you can back off. In an all-vanilla game.

Under no circumstances should this nonsense ever be pulled on LYLO. If you're townie, I'll take this loss. No way I can let this stand.

He wants town to lose!

See, he's phrasing it in a way that he can take credit for a win while excusing himself for precipitating catastrophe from a won game.

I, on the other hand, fully accept the consequences of erring on Christopher.

Don't be that way, Pizza. If you're scum, give it an honest rant. If you're not, give it an honest rant anyway. I can't let this snobbery stand.


If Al is not scum and Christopher is not scum the game ends in town defeat. Which is why I've noted that you're making a play to make the lynch go your way here, when there's no recourse, along the lines of soft-claiming detective in a game with no power roles, only to retract it.

Ok. Let's examine this. If neither of them are scum, and you are not scum, and I am scum, who would my partner be? Tony or Pete?

[[MAFIA] Joe]

@Monty

As a vanilla townie you have no legitimate reason to find Christopher to be that much more likely to be scum than Al after last night.

The reason you step forward and go "Chris is definitely scum" when you don't know that for a fact is because you want to force a mislynch.

@All

I challenge anyone here. You're a vanilla townie, and we either roleblocked a scum or an innocent got framed. You open the day with "Random player X is definitely scum, I guarantee it".

How likely is that to happen if you're playing honestly?

That's completely dishonest. Which is all legal behavior in mafia. But vanilla townies have no reason to lie in an all-vanilla game. Monty is either scum or the worst townie ever.

[[MAFIA] Joe]

Carlo;2053471742']I, on the other hand, fully accept the consequences of erring on Christopher.

Well, duh.

[Jarema]

Vote: Christopher

Jail: Al

That is strong evidence against Al, but I can guarantee you that Christopher is scum.

I want to state, that votes from main accounts will not be counted.
If there is a reason why you cant vote from your an-acount, let me know

[[MAFIA] Joe]

Don't worry, he made sure his vote was nice and legal afterward.

Monty, this better not be another one of your lame stunts. You're already infamous for claiming to be mafia as townie and other such nonsense. If you're townie you have to realize what you've done completely forces my hand. It looks exactly like a scum maneuver and there's no way I can let it go.

[Montmorency]

I love you, Pizza.

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

That's completely dishonest. Which is all legal behavior in mafia. But vanilla townies have no reason to lie in an all-vanilla game. Monty is either scum or the worst townie ever.

Or, you know, the best townie. Might be.

But we both know that I can't out-rhetorize you, Pizza. I can however, point out that you and Chris have both voted together on the leading lynch - twice. And yesterday, you voted with me to lynch Scarface on the basis of nothing. Why then did we hear no protestation of a wasted "penultimate round"? And today the first thing you do is declare suspicion of me. Now you've found something to latch onto and are milking it for all it's worth. Smells like a set-up to me.


I want to state, that votes from main accounts will not be counted.
If there is a reason why you cant vote from your an-acount, let me know

I fixed that.


Monty, this better not be another one of your lame stunts.

Have you wondered whether you're just overreacting? Just a little? Whenever someone does a similar thing you go wild. As I recall, you usually wind up wrong or scum.

[[MAFIA] Joe]

Carlo;2053471751']Or, you know, the best townie. Might be.

But we both know that I can't out-rhetorize you, Pizza. I can however, point out that you and Chris have both voted together on the leading lynch - twice. And yesterday, you voted with me to lynch Scarface on the basis of nothing. Why then did we hear no protestation of a wasted "penultimate round"? And today the first thing you do is declare suspicion of me. Now you've found something to latch onto and are milking it for all it's worth. Smells like a set-up to me.

Have you wondered whether you're just overreacting? Just a little? Whenever someone does a similar thing you go wild. As I recall, you usually wind up wrong or scum.

Nobody votes with their partner on every lynch, because everyone always assumes that they do that. I'm Chris' partner in your scenario purely because I am arguing against what you're trying to do.

Everyone voted on every round so far on the basis of nothing. The first thing I did today was say lynch Al and then jail you, the next random suspect on my list. But something has prompted you to declare, definitively, that you know who the scum are, and it's not the guy we roleblocked last night. This is a set-up of my design, because I can control when and what you post.

Yes, Pizza is usually wrong or scum. I'm actually scum about 15% of the time, and I've been hitting it out of the park in every recent game.

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

Now hold on.


The first thing I did today was say lynch Al and then jail you, the next random suspect on my list.

I'd be willing to reverse it, put Al in jail again. But Al needs to be resolved one way or the other. Carlo's antics can't be ignored any longer.


This is a set-up of my design, because I can control when and what you post.

No, what I'm saying is that your votes could have been part of a plan to groom a fall-guy for the finale, and that my "slip" is just the sort of thing you were looking for anyway. That is, you were planning to have me lynched.


Yes, Pizza is usually wrong or scum. I'm actually scum about 15% of the time, and I've been hitting it out of the park in every recent game.

No - when you react in this particular manner, you are usually wrong or scum. See?

[[MAFIA] Fat Tony]

Jail: Al - that is one thing we can all be sure of.

I too happen to think Christopher is scum. even before i saw Monty's post. But after following the discussion i think lynching Joe might be the right move
Vote: Joe

[[MAFIA] Joe]

Okay. Well good luck, hope Al and Joe and Christopher are all scum.

[[MAFIA] Joe]

Vote: Christopher (Pete, Carlo, Al)
Vote: Carlo (Joe)
Vote: Joe (Fat Tony)

Jail: Al (Pete, Carlo, Joe, Fat Tony)
Jail: Joe (Al)

Here's your current tally.

I just want to point out that with 2 scums and 4 townies, they only need one person to be voting incorrectly for us to lose. Given that I'm a townie, you should at least try to convince me why I should move my vote off of Carlo.

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

Alright, perhaps this will clarify a few things.

Now, there are a couple of possibilities in terms of scum strategy:

1. Scum bussed each other to get Al jailed, so jailers (including partner) look good when no kill; perhaps scum even plot to bus each other to the maximum and lynch the prisoner for unshakeable townie credibility.
2. Scum are framing a patsy, using a one-time kill-abstention to waste the lynch on LYLO via diversion (i.e. Al is the fall-guy)
3. Neither of these, somehow - or the plan failed.

I can see no alternatives. Maybe examining potential pairings will shed more light. I would ask you to consider me innocent here. ;)


Lynch tally:
Pedro (Christopher, Joe, Al)
Al (Pedro, Fat Tony)
Scarface (Carlo)
Christopher (Pete)
Pete (Bertha)

Jail tally:
Al (Carlo, Joe)
Bertha (Pete, Fat Tony)
Joe (Al)
Pete (Christopher)
Scarface (Bertha)
Fat Tony (Pedro)
***************
Lynch tally:
Scarface (Carlo, Joe, Christopher)
Al (Fat Tony)
Fat Tony (Al)
Joe (Scarface)
Carlo (Pete)

Jail tally:
Al (Fat Tony, Joe, Scarface)
Pete (Carlo)
Christopher (Al)
Scarface (Pete)
Al (Christopher)
***************
Lynch tally:
Vote: Christopher (Pete, Carlo, Al)
Vote: Carlo (Joe)
Vote: Joe (Fat Tony)

Jail tally:
Jail: Al (Pete, Carlo, Joe, Fat Tony)
Jail: Joe (Al)

Pairings:

Chris-Joe
Chris-Tony*
Chris-PeteX Pete voted Chris today almost immediately
Chris-Al*Al voting Chris now, but could be for bussing purposes; Al vote to jail Chris yesterday
Al-Joe** Voting to jail each other; probably not, unless it was scum's plan (i.e. bussing); even now, they are voting to jail each other
Al-TonyX Tony was second lynch-vote on him D1; voting to jail each other
Al-Pete
Pete-Joe
Pete-Tony
Tony-JoeX No reason for Tony to step in, let alone vote Joe if Joe is his partner
Carlo-Pete* Unlikely, though could have been distancing D2
Carlo-Al* I voted to jail successfully; master plan?
Carlo-JoeX No way
Carlo-Tony
Carlo-ChrisX Well, if I were his partner I could certainly consider this sort of thing; perhaps why he hasn't spoken up?


Carlo: One open, two muddled, two near-impossible
Pete: Three open, one muddled, one near-impossible
Joe: Two open, one very muddled, two near-impossible
Chris: One open, two muddled, two near-impossible
Al: One open, three muddled (and one very much so), one near-impossible
Tony: Two open, one muddled, two near-impossible


If Joe were scum and not partnered with Chris, he'd have no reason to show up to vote me.
If Tony were scum and not partnered with Chris, he'd have no reason to show up to vote Joe. Then again, why wouldn't he simply vote me if he were scum? Chris could then come in to tie the vote at a minimum. Cast that potentiality in some doubt.


My impression is that Chris and Al are the way to go, though if Arjos/Pete turns out to be scum again no one could say the evidence wasn't there...

Though, now that I think about it

[[MAFIA] Joe]

That's too much for me to absorb fully.

However, you said you were certain on Chris. Now, you have valuable data to look at.

Who is willing to lynch Chris? That would be a clear plurality. Who is willing to jail Al? Another clear plurality.

I could see you doing your move as a way of creating data to analyze. But beyond that, I'm still not sure why the certainty is warranted. Now you're expressing doubts, which seems to contradict your earlier stance.

I concur that jailing Al is the best move, due to the circumstance. But I am not following why Chris is the sure bet, more sure than Al. And I can't remove you from suspicion either.

[[MAFIA] Joe]

Now placing wagers: Chris doesn't show up to vote. Makes him either a useless townie or scum anyway.

On the good ship lost cause, there steers Captain Pizza. What's the point?

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

Doubt? I don't know.

Well, try to scrutinize it all.

Having done so, focus on these potential pairings:


Chris-Joe
Chris-Tony*
Chris-Al*Al voting Chris now, but could be for bussing purposes; Al vote to jail Chris yesterday
Al-Joe** Voting to jail each other; probably not, unless it was scum's plan (i.e. bussing); even now, they are voting to jail each other
Al-Pete
Pete-Joe
Pete-Tony
Carlo-Pete* Unlikely, though could have been distancing D2
Carlo-Al* I voted to jail successfully; master plan?
Carlo-Tony

Now let's try this:

Innocence Assumed

Carlo: Pete and Joe, then Chris & Al look suspicious
Joe: Pete and Tony, then Carlo & Chris look suspicious
Tony: Pete and Joe, then Chris & Al look suspicious
Al: Tony and Pete and Joe, then Carlo & Chris look suspicious
Pete: Al and Chris, then Carlo and Tony look suspicious
Chris: Pete and Tony, then Carlo and Al look suspicious

(Note that the block just above does not necessarily represent pairings, just similar levels of suspiciousness)

Of course, with a simple algorithm like this it shouldn't be taken as determinate.

...

Look, it's a hunch. Unless you've got an alternative to me, there's no way to approach a conclusion more amicable to you, should you be townie.

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

Oh God, it can't be Pete, can it?

:worried:

[[MAFIA] Pete]

I voted him with no second thoughts as him and Joe basically made all lynches happen...
Well, yes I doubt both are scum and so shameless, imo with such spread out votes, at least a mafia always voted in the lynch...

Besides I generally tend to agree with Monty, but at the same time love to prove him wrong :P

Bottom line, imo the mafia failed to provoke the Al wagon and now are going head over heels to fix it...
Chris hasn't even showed up, the way I see it atm, they could be SO shameless afterall lol

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

Well, if it turns out to be Pete, I deserve an ignominy like the Die Harder bureaucrat's.

Any final contributions?

[[MAFIA] Pete]

To answer the behaviour tallies:

- Carlo has been Montynesque throughout the game, could be both, but didn't struck me as scum...
- Fat Tony, I'm still not sure who he is, but he has acted as the textbook townie...
- Chris is the only one really lurking pretty much...
- Al happened to be in the right place at the right time for the mafia...
- I've been myself, since I think it's detrimental to the town to act differently with the anons, that means I could be both lol
- Joe has reacted as Scum Pizza if you ask me: flying under the radar and having fun at the beginning and exploding into Pizza ramblings in the end, to make the town do what he wants...

So in my recap mafiosi could be: Me, Carlo, Chris and Joe...

Maybe we could change our jail vote to try and have a chance even if the lynch fails, don't know if it will make a difference: there should be two mafia, but I have no clue if blocking one is enough or not...
If Al turns out to be mafia, he played the victim extremely well and deserves to win XD

[[MAFIA] Joe]

Scum Pizza does not behave that way.

unvote Carlo
Vote: Pete

[[MAFIA] Christopher]

Carlo;2053471732']Whoa, I thought you were Fat Tony.

So, a couple of things: I never claimed detective. I just claimed an excellent scumdar.

There are 6 players, so if Al is scum we have this round and the next to lynch the "minor" mafioso. If Al is not scum, he will be murdered tonight as a proven innocent.

Third, if Al is not scum there is up to a 25% chance of clean victory.

Fourth, I wonder if you aren't partnered with Christopher. He's been online a whole lot lately, yet no post. Waiting for his eloquent partner to step in? Your absence yesterday was noted.

Fifth, everything you've said applies to yourself.

Nope, I decided to start playing KOTOR2. It took about 2 hours to set up, but it was worth it. Or it will be after I get off the freakin asteroid. Also, I'll be gone for about 30 hours with no Internet at my grandparents' house.

It's ridiculous to think that Al isn't being framed right now. Not really seeing anyone doing it though.

I don't particularly like the way Pete is acting. vote: Pete

No idea who to jail and now my mom is telling me to hurry so I guess it doesn't matter.

[[MAFIA] Fat Tony]

i dont like the fact that Joe is getting off....but i like these late votes on Pete even less.
unvote; vote: Christopher.

[[MAFIA] Pete]

I could even buy that Chris is the regular lurker/no time to play, whatever; but if Joe is mafia, judging by how he behaved his partner can only be Chris...

Otherwise what's left? Al & Tony or Carlo? Tony & Carlo? Doesn't make sense...

Joe started with some valid points, but ended voting anything, without much logic (keeping in mind, that his whole reasoning was about the importance of the lynch)...
If it's not Joe & Chris, what do you guys think?

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

Chris-Joe
Chris-Al*Al voting Chris now, but could be for bussing purposes; Al voted to jail Chris yesterday
Al-Joe** Voting to jail each other; probably not, unless it was scum's plan (i.e. bussing); even now, they are voting to jail each other
Al-Pete
Pete-Tony


These are the only possible combinations at this point. It's indisputable up to this point right here.

In the center, Al is at least covered. The question then is: Pete or Chris?

If Chris is innocent: it's either Pete-Tony or Pete-Al.
If Pete is innocent: it's either Chris-Joe (and Pizza has put on a good innocent face just now) or Chris-Al.
If both are innocent: It must be Joe and Al. No alternative.

Considering a Tony-Pete catastrophe:


i dont like the fact that Joe is getting off....but i like these late votes on Pete even less.
unvote; vote: Christopher.

Just a little earlier, I had almost discounted Chris-Tony, or even Tony as scum at all, because Tony seemed to have wasted his vote to no purpose. Now...

Two sides, and evenly matched. Uncommonly so. Look at that symmetry. God, the oppressive ugliness of that center. :daisy: I like it better when there are only two options.

[[MAFIA] Pete]

Combo posting! XD

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

Mine for good measure.


Carlo-Pete* Unlikely, though could have been distancing D2
Carlo-Al* I voted to jail successfully; master plan?
Carlo-Tony

I think we can discard the former and the latter, as I might just vote against the pair of them. I couldn't forgive myself for allowing Arjos slip through the net yet again, despite the evidence weighed against him.

[[MAFIA] Fat Tony]

I dont like pizza getting away like this... but i changed my vote because i wanted the lynch to be clear.

[[MAFIA] Pete]

We can always switch for him, but I'm like 90% sure that it's Joe and Chris, so either lynch should be fine ^^

[[MAFIA] Joe]

It's good to know you're so certain of things you can't be certain of, scumbag.

TBH, can't tell who is getting away with it this time. But if Chris flips scum, I will indeed be shocked.

I'm willing to lynch Pete, Al, Carlo, maybe even Fat Tony but I don't see it. The fact that no one is speaking out against his lynch, and I'm townie, is telling me everything I know, and everything you need to know but can't because you're not graced with the pleasure of being Askthepizzaguy.

Let's do this thing. Kill Christopher, flip townie, Pizza told you so.

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

Could it be possible that you're doing all this just to influence me into backing down?

No...

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

This is complete bull:daisy:

Unvote;Vote: Pete

Him and tony, or him and Al.

I believe it.

Now the coin decides.

[[MAFIA] Pete]

Gah, Monty XD

[[MAFIA] Fat Tony]

Carlo;2053471967']This is complete bull:daisy:

Unvote;Vote: Pete

Him and tony, or him and Al.

I believe it.

Now the coin decides.

or it is you and Joe!

[[MAFIA] Pete]

Fat Tony;2053471977']or it is you and Joe!

That is just impossible, none of them would have a motive to switch the votes from Chris...
Unless they are some sick jokers! XD

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

If it were me and Joe, why would we orchestrate this whole embroglio when a Christopher lynch would win us the game without a word from us?

However, that does sound like bad townie logic...

[[MAFIA] Pete]

Double Combo? We are on fire!

But really Carlo, do the right thing here XD
Seriously, how can Pizza mesmerize you all? He started saying don't waste the lynch and then just said he has no clue and could vote for like 3 players and he unvoted twice!

Edit: dammit! Bring it on Chris! *puts on boxing gloves*

[[MAFIA] Joe]

Bad townie logic is the best kind of bad logic.

[[MAFIA] Joe]

Also, heads up, I am completely a townie. But a tie result here is definitely bad, even if Monty were correct. That needed more votes.

I am just amused by the fact that the townie team fails at everything, even failing. We could have just lynched Chris and had a clean loss, instead it's decided by coin flip which is lame.

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

You desire defeat to an unhealthy extent.

And anyway, there is hope indeed.

If Arjos lives and Al is his partner, and Al is the Major mafioso, we will have the game wrapped up regardless of today's outcome.

You could have your "clean" victory yet. On the other hand, victory by any means is sweet as sweet can be.

[Jarema]

Lynch tally:
Christopher (Pete, Al, Fat Tony)
Pete (Joe, Christopher, Carlo)

Jail tally:
Al (Pete, Carlo, Joe, Fat Tony)
Joe (Al)

At the end of seventh week of travel, astronauts started to worry. They knew that their goal was very close. They also knew that there were killers among them, and that they did not catch even one of the scum.
Serious, methodological discussion began. At the end of it, two astronauts were chosen, as crew cannot decide for one person: Christopher and Pete.
'So, what we should do now' - asked Pete. 'Do you want to kill us both?'
'No, no, that would be against the rules'
' What rules?!? Do we really have rules for killing people?'
'Yes, in fact we do. It is all written here, in an Astronaut's Guide... wait a moment! i found it! In case of a tie, we should flip a coin'
And so they did. Result, what could be predicted, was unfortunate for one of participants.
Christopher was lynched.
After examining his body, every one could see strange, tangled tentacles protruding from his organs. It was clear that he wasnt human. (he was mafia)

Crew also decided to jail Al, as during last week he was jailed and there were no kills.

List of living players:
Al
Carlo
Fat Tony
Joe
Pete


Night 3 begins.

[[MAFIA] Joe]

Christopher, you :daisy:

[[MAFIA] Pete]

Joe;2053471996']I am just amused by the fact that the townie team fails at everything, even failing. We could have just lynched Chris and had a clean loss, instead it's decided by coin flip which is lame.

Prepare to DIE XD

Also we should kill Carlo for the near miss and just for the heck of it lol!

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

Crew also decided to jail Al, as during next week he was jailed and there were no kills.


Don't you think you're giving things away, Jarema?

I owe you an apology, Arjos. See, but my hunches are gold. :smug:

Tomorrow we will lynch Al and jail Pizza.

[Arjos]

Carlo;2053472007']Tomorrow we will lynch Al and jail Pizza.

WHAT?!? XD

Why?

(Gah, sorry forgot to re-switch :P)

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

Don't worry, it happens to the best of us. :wink:

If there is no kill, Al must be guilty.

But sure, fine, whatever. The point is that those two need to be voted hard tomorrow.

[[MAFIA] Pete]

Oh lol I see now, Jarema spoilered us! :D
Maybe he simply meant last week?

[[MAFIA] Joe]

I'm not guilty I'm not guilty lalalalalala.

Pretty pointless to say anything else, except that Carlo is scum if there's a murder.

[[MAFIA] Pete]

Guys it's Joe lol
Why would Al vote Chris? XD

[Jarema]

OMG
I meant past tense of course. Fixed

[Montmorency]

That was good, Pizza. Very understated. I thought you'd go full ATPVolcano History of Violence-style if you were scum.

And on the surface the data seemed to implicate Pete above all. Well-played.

But we got this in the end.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrLk4vdY28Q

[[MAFIA] Joe]

Pete;2053472013']Guys it's Joe lol
Why would Al vote Chris? XD

Why would major mafioso vote minor mafioso? Hmmm let me think.

Don't worry Pete, you've got the game all sewn up. You go get em tiger. I have my popcorn ready for when the monster comes out and eats you.

This is the part I like best, because I have no control over what happens and it's going to end in disaster. :evil:

[[MAFIA] Pete]

Joe;2053472018']This is the part I like best, because I have no control over what happens and it's going to end in disaster. :evil:

Bwahahahahah, I'm still amazed by your "Master of Puppetry" though :D

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

That wine stinks of desperation.

[[MAFIA] Joe]

Pete;2053472019']Bwahahahahah, I'm still amazed by your "Master of Puppetry" :D

I can make you vote for whoever I want tomorrow.

You're going to vote for Carlo, because there will be a murder, and it won't be Al.

Therefore, you will incorrectly assume it is going to be me who is guilty. But then I will demonstrate why it cannot be me, and you will vote for Carlo with me. Fat Tony, I'm afraid that means you do need to die. I will be jailed tomorrow which means the game is over if I were scum ANYWAY. Which means, we will be lynching Carlo.

Anyway, Carlo dies, flips scum, game ends in townie victory, and you won't have even flipping seen it coming.

Prove me wrong, if I volunteer to be jailed. You cannot escape the fact that I'm correct.

[[MAFIA] Joe]

You can reverse it, put Carlo in jail and lynch me. Same effect.

:wink:

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

Don't get ahead of yourself Pizza.

Anyway, I have the particulars of this game fully determined now, with all the major variables in place.

[[MAFIA] Joe]

Are you on board, Al? Obviously you are since it means you survive the game.

Let me ask you, Carlo, did you just plain forget that we have essentially, two lynches?

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

You mean other than the part where I explicitly mentioned that? I'd venture, "no".

Anyway, if there is indeed a kill we will be left with 4 players and another LYLO.

Stop being so detrimental to the town effort, Pizza. Not even scum Pizza should be this criminal.

[[MAFIA] Pete]

Carlo;2053472027']Anyway, if there is indeed a kill we will be left with 4 players and another LYLO.

If Al isn't killed, that's already 3 suspects and if I'm not killed it's only 2...
But what are we talking about: it's Joe, end of the story :P

[[MAFIA] Joe]

Carlo;2053472027']You mean other than the part where I explicitly mentioned that? I'd venture, "no".

Anyway, if there is indeed a kill we will be left with 4 players and another LYLO.

Stop being so detrimental to the town effort, Pizza. Not even scum Pizza should be this criminal.

I could always roll over and die. That's the townie way, isn't it?

Maybe I could falsely claim scumbag, too.

[[MAFIA] Al]

I'm on board with it, Pizza is just so persuasive, I might end up lynching myself, even if there is a kill tonight. But seriously, I think the only way mafia could win is by killing tonight, so unless they just want to screw me over, we should see a kill tonight. Good lynch today, though. Who is Christopher again?

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

I follow anagke: necessity.

You cannot understand this,

and it is why you will die.

[[MAFIA] Joe]

Christopher is Double A, which might explain why someone might wanna bus him. No offense AA.

[[MAFIA] Pete]

Carlo;2053472038']I follow anagke: necessity.

Gamma followed by kappa is read "nk" :P


Joe;2053472039']Christopher is Double A, which might explain why someone might wanna bus him. No offense AA.

Don't be so harsh with your partner: all he wanted to do was playing KOTOR and you forced him to be a murderer XD

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

Of course, it could be transliterated either way.

An ode to Pizza:


His head was made of cheese,
His skin was made of crust.
His antics made me wheeze,
Scummy sauce I could not trust.
But his tongue was cast in gold.
Aye, no, aye!
T'were his tongue that had me sold!

[Visor]

Pete;2053472040']Don't be so harsh with your partner: all he wanted to do was playing KOTOR and you forced him to be a murderer XD

:laugh4:

After reading the last day phase, I regret not signing up for this game. Certainly looks to be a close one.

[[MAFIA] Fat Tony]

Carlo;2053471982']If it were me and Joe, why would we orchestrate this whole embroglio when a Christopher lynch would win us the game without a word from us?

However, that does sound like bad townie logic...

No logic in there mate, just pissed at your late vote change leaving it to chance!!! It was a bad move in a LYLO situation. Fortunately no harm done.

[Jarema]

Space between stars is vast and empty. When one tries to contemplate it, to understand it, his mind and his self fade out. State of unity with universe is achieved. Pete was in just such state. Everything seemed perfect to him. He felt his body, and entire ship, sailing through his own vastness of openness. Stars were his eyes, waves and particles were his hands. And so, he saw a man coming to kill him. Pete welcomed him. Survival of his body was not important, especially when he could see what awaits for the ship and its crew at Toliman.
Pete was an astronaut. He was good, innocent man.


List of living players:
Al
Carlo
Fat Tony
Joe


Day 4 begins.

[[MAFIA] Pete]

Ahahahaha, I've achieved nirvana :D

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

Vote: Joe

Jail: Tony

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

I'm on board with it, Pizza is just so persuasive, I might end up lynching myself, even if there is a kill tonight. But seriously, I think the only way mafia could win is by killing tonight, so unless they just want to screw me over, we should see a kill tonight. Good lynch today, though. Who is Christopher again?

Now there's a thought. This one comment is exceedingly scummy, and it has enter my mind that the lack of a kill may be due to a one-time roleblocking effect of imprisonment on the killing mafioso.

Unvote; Vote: Al

Unjail; Jail: Pizza

Discuss.

[[MAFIA] Pete]

Discuss? Sure: you should be interned in a mental institute :=)

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

You're right - so stupid it's criminal.

Unjail; Jail: Joe

All better.

[Jarema]

Anyway, remember that only votes with anon-accounts names will be accepted; so your change is correct.

[[MAFIA] Al]

Carlo;2053472364']Now there's a thought. This one comment is exceedingly scummy, and it has enter my mind that the lack of a kill may be due to a one-time roleblocking effect of imprisonment on the killing mafioso.

Unvote; Vote: Al

Unjail; Jail: Pizza

Discuss.

Um... no. There was a kill last night. I really like stating the obvious, but there is really no way I could be mafia, there are only two, we lynched one, I was role-blocked last night, but, again, there was a kill last night. Your post makes no sense, but I'm still inclined to suspect Joe.

So... Vote: Joe and for good measure, Jail: Carlo

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

So you failed to address my hypothetical - that the roleblock only works once on a mafioso.

:brood:

[[MAFIA] Al]

Now why would Jarema include that, it basically breaks the game in favor of the mafia, I am almost positive that that isn't the case, almost only because we haven't role-blocked a mafioso even once.

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

Hardly breaks the game. A better argument would be that his games tend to favor the town with respect to balance.


I am almost positive that that isn't the case, almost only because we haven't role-blocked a mafioso even once.

'That can't possibly be true, because I'm not scum, and for it to be true I would have to be scum. Ergo I'm not scum.'

I don't like it.

[[MAFIA] Pete]

Be honest Monty, you are doing this to get to the flight's end write-up in D5, right? XD

[[MAFIA] Fat Tony]

what is there to discuss?
vote: Joe
Jail: Carlo

[[MAFIA] Fat Tony]

Monty, do not force a tie again. change your vote to Joe.
you are over complicating with your hypothetical. Vote joe. This is our best course of action.

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

Why not do it the surefire way?

I see it like this. Pizza comes in, votes Al and desires me jailed.

There's a tie. One of them gets lynched, I go to jail. If the lynchee is scum, we win. If the lynchee is town, scum wins.

This is an undesirable scenario.

Better would be to have Al lynched, and Joe jailed. That way, if Joe is scum, there are two townies to lynch him that day.

Think about it.

[[MAFIA] Fat Tony]

here is another hypothetical for you - Jailing scum will not role-block when there is only one scum left! what do you think?

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

Then why are you voting to jail me?

[[MAFIA] Fat Tony]

that is just an OMGUS vote ~D

I believe that jailing today is just arbitrary and will have no impact on the game.

[[MAFIA] Joe]

Vote: Tony
Jail: Carlo

Due to the events of last night, I know that this solves the game.

Al, you're innocent, you need to vote with me this way.

[[MAFIA] Joe]

Also, you're a fricking genius Tony. You definitely deserve to win this game and you will. There's no way Al will follow me.

And Carlo. There's not a chance in hell that Carlo would follow me. But this is how town wins.

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

That's what you give us? :thumbsdown:

Unvote; Vote: Joe

[[MAFIA] Fat Tony]

nice try, but no cigar ~:smoking: a bit desperate though!

[[MAFIA] Joe]

What were you expecting me to do, Carlo? Vote for Al? Pull a power role out of my ass?

Give me a fricking break.

[Askthepizzaguy]

That Joe guy seems mighty suspicious to me.

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

I knew you were Fat Tony all along! :happy:

The nights are long since you went away
I think about you all through the day
My buddy, my buddy
Nobody quite so true

I miss your voice and the touch of your hand
I long to know that you understand
My buddy, my buddy
Your buddy misses you

[[MAFIA] Christopher]

So apparently I misheard and it was till today and not yesterday. On the bright side, it gave me time to grind my Typhlosion on Bugsy and Jasmine's teams from 60 to 72.


Joe;2053472039']Christopher is Double A, which might explain why someone might wanna bus him. No offense AA.

ponies

[Jarema]

This day, astronauts were almost sure they want to kill Joe. Joe tried to save himself from lynch, but ultimately failed.
Other crew members putted him into lock, in order to throw him into open space without a spacesuit. Then, their watched, expecting his body to explode.
But, to their surprise, instead of exploding, Joe’s body started to transform. Tentacles bursted from his hands, his head splitted into two parts, and at his belly new mouth formed. ‘Foolish humans’ the monster shouted in the inside of their heads ‘I am mighty ATPG, member of Pizzacorian species! Mere mortals cannot kill me!’.
As crew fighted with terror overcoming them, ATPG’s tentacles wrapped around a ship and squeezed. Metal plates started to bend, streams of air started to leak into vacuum. All seemed lost for the unfortunate human vessel. But, at the very last moment, Fat Tony managed to squeeze his enormous body into the bridge, and activated laser defense system.
In a few seconds, Joe’s (??) body was sliced into small slices.
Joe was an alien!

Einstein’s pride continued his travel. Two weeks later, crew members (happy that their jurney is over) parked their ship on the orbit of fourth of Toliman’s planets. Before they decided what to do later, they saw a mob of Pizzacorians flying to their ship, with their tentacles unfolded…


Town Victory!

Any info, comments, etc. I will put here later, probably on Sunday (I am on a trip now)
Feel free to discuss. I would be grateful for answer to this questions:
1. Was game balanced?
2. Was using an-accounts fun?
3. Was using jailing ability fun? (I am thinking about using similar all-town ability in another game)

[[MAFIA] Christopher]

lame

[Double A]

Wow, that guy sure is bitter.

[Memnon]

Woot! I survived!

[Montmorency]

I think it would have been cooler if the roleblock only worked once per mafioso.

[Ishmael]

I got to be Bertha - that's victory enough for me :beam:.

[Arjos]

I liked this, always nice to have anons and a collective town power, instead of few power roles, seems better :)

I mean the mafia had the chance to frame with it and even if it succeeded, there was no guarantee it actually worked ^^
As for the balance I think it was working fine, we actually had to be lucky on the silly tie: could've gone either way...

[Askthepizzaguy]

Flinchy flinchy flinchy Monty. Fickle fortune spares fools from their well-earned demise.

:laugh4: :evil:

Remember that if not for a coin flip, you all would be dead by my hands, once again...

[Visor]

There a QT we can read Pizza?

[Askthepizzaguy]

http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/cMbJZkKEbPcii

Not much in it. I do most of the talking as usual.

[Visor]

Some partners are talkative, others not.

[Montmorency]

The world conspires, Pizza. The world conspires.

[Jarema]

Thank you all for playing.
It was a pleasure to host this game, as events were really interesting.

I only feel a little sad, that in fact winning depended on coin toss.

As for collective town power IMO it worked well. Not OP, and subject for mafia manipulation. I think like half of power role (or little more, definitively less than full power role) for town in terms of balance - at least in game as small as this one.

[atheotes]

very enjoyable game. thanks for hosting Jarema. I think the balance was fine.
it was great to see the town not fall for the frame on Al. if not for Monty's last minute flinch the town would have won it outright. All things considered i think the town did a very good job on the LYLO situations.

[[MAFIA] Carlo]

As it turns out, these accounts were not unlinked.

Carlo shall always remain a.k.a. Montmorency, then. It would be best to disable the account entirely, or its reputation will always proceed it and so ruin games.

[Chaotix]

Carlo;2053475112']As it turns out, these accounts were not unlinked.

Carlo shall always remain a.k.a. Montmorency, then. It would be best to disable the account entirely, or its reputation will always proceed it and so ruin games.

I'll take care of this.

I bet nobody realized this game had ended.

[Montmorency]

Whoa, malapropism. That's shameful.

[Jarema]

Whoa, malapropism..

whats that?

[Chaotix]

Beats me. I bet he is making fun of me though.

Montmorency is always making fun of me when he uses those big words.

[Montmorency]

its reputation will always proceed it

precede

[DaveShack]

Whoa, malapropism. That's shameful.


whats that?

Just testing the nifty tool... move along...
malapropism

yup, that's a nifty tool. :bow: