Thy Kingdom Come - Crusades

[Nightbringer]

https://imageshack.us/a/img827/770/thykingdomcome.jpg

Thy Kingdom Come

Welcome orgahs to the latest hotseat for Kingdoms: The Crusades, patch 1.5.

This hotseat shall be played by up to six players, controlling the following factions.

1. Principality of Antioch - Beerbaron
2. Kingdom of Jerusalem - Visorslash
3. Republic of Venice - Rougeman
4. Byzantine Empire - Elite Ferret
5. Egypt - Myth
6. Turks – Nightbringer

Because the Republic of Venice appears later in the game, that player will not begin play immediately. Additionally, the game master will move their starting forces onto ships in international waters, so they are not forced to simply fight the Byzantines. This will be done via console on their first turn, and they will then take control on the second.

The game master is Nightbringer.

The following rules shall be used.

- Players shall post a link to the save game in the main game thread and also mention (by using the Nightbringer command) the next player in line to alert them that it is their turn. The save game file should follow the naming convention hgamename-turn number-faction (eg. CrusadeGame-1-Antioch)

- Players have 48 hours to play each turn, with extensions granted at request. The GM will skip a players' turn if the deadline is missed with no communication and a sub allied to the player cannot be found.

- Battles between human-controlled factions may be either auto-resolved, or played on the battlemap, at the player’s discretion.

- Only one assassination or sabotage attempt may be made per turn, and it must be the first action on that turn.

- No spies may be used to open the gates of settlements or forts.

- Siege equipment may only be used to open gates as follows: Ballista can open nothing, Catapults can open wooden walls, Trebuchets can open stone walls.

- No crusades or jihads can be called or joined by a human player.

- No destroying buildings for cash under any circumstances.

- No fighting losing defensive battles on purpose in a besieged city, just to deny the invader the sacking option.

- If an army is beaten in battle by a faction that is after them in the turn order that army may not move on the following turn.

- An army which is beaten in battle may not be attacked on the following turn (because it is immobilized either by the game mechanic or by the rule above) by any faction unless it has retreated to a fort or settlement.

- No exploits, including (but not limited to): no merchant forts, no surround-and-destroy, no tribute deals that deliberately put you into debt greater than 10k, no deliberate diplomatic exchange of territories just to get a free garrison, no tribute deals with or monetary gifts to the Pope, no attacking ships in ports.


Any questions about the rules should be brought to the game master’s attention before taking action, and the game master will immediately make a public announcement to clarify the rules question. Players are encouraged to remember that this is a game, and to act accordingly.

Role play, diplomacy, and story writing are encouraged, but not required. Players should remember that in context (IC) deals are not enforced by the rules (eg., backstabbing is fine, although you may find it more difficult to make future alliances).

If a player is suspected of cheating, whether intentionally or not, this should be brought up to the game master, in private, only, not posted in the game thread. The game master shall investigate and resolve the matter as fairly as possible.
If any player has a problem with the conduct of another player in the game, this too should be brought up privately to the game master who will attempt to resolve the dispute as fairly as possible.


If anyone has questions about the rules, or wishes to suggest modifications, please do so now. Please feel free to make faction selections now, as well as game name suggestions.

[SilverShield]

never did one of those from the kingdoms disc anyways just took a sec on it and i can see this crusade campaign being fun. i ll decide on a faction tomorrow

[slysnake]

Unless all the people from the previous Crusades HS wanted to play again, I might give it a go to. Like Silver though, I still need to decide on a faction ^^

[Myth]

I'm in but I'd like to check the starting conditions. Whomever starts with a catapult range has an advantage in lead battles. Also, this game has stone forts that cost 2500 gold so I'm not sure how we handle them and siege equipment.

[Ignoramus]

Byzantines for me!

[Nightbringer]

Glad to have you iggy! They're all yours.

Same goes for the Britannia game!

[Ignoramus]

Glad to have you iggy! They're all yours.

Glad to be back, NB. It's been too long since I've graced these halls...

[Rougeman]

Venice for me please, i wish to go crusading!

[Nightbringer]

Venice for me please, i wish to go crusading!
You got it!

[Myth]

I am taking Egypt. May the infidels tremble before the might of Allah!

Nightbringer please add rules for assassins in both games. I propose them being able to assasinate anything but one attempt per turn and it's the first thing the player does. Do we let catapults open forts?

[Nightbringer]

Alright, I'm going to try my hand at the turks this game.

I'm thinking no because of the very high cost of forts in this game (2500). They cost 5 times as much, and I think deserve to be hard to open.

If most people want, we can switch it to being that way.

I'll add in the assassination thing.

[SilverShield]

gotta leave this one for the broken crescent game just too busy for more right now

[Mithridate]

Ill know in two weeks if i can participate or not xD
Too unsure IRL atm to commit, and damn you all for taking the awesome factions!

[slysnake]

Put me down for Antioch :)

[Nightbringer]

Alright, we just need one more then we are good to go.

[Nightbringer]

We need two more players for this game. Anyone interested?

[BeerBaron]

Ill take a spot. PoA preferably, KoJ if not.

[Nightbringer]

All yours, and welcome to the Throne Room!

We just need one more to get started!

[Myth]

FYI i'd be willing to switch Egypt for the PoA or KoJ if a prospective player insists on playing as Salahadin's men.

[Visor]

Alright give me KoJ. Let's do this Oddsworm.

[Myth]

Nice! I'm away from Friday evening until Sunday evening but I can't wait for a new game to start. Visor, will you be interested in playing in CoG!2? Try your luck versus Silver/NB maybe?

[Nightbringer]

BeerBaron, Visorslash, Rougeman, Ignoramus, Myth
Looks like we are ready to go! I should get the first turn up today or most likely tomorrow!

[Nightbringer]

Alright, the game is started. Good luck everyone!

Antioch is first up BeerBaron.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10277

Also, now accepting ideas for the name of the game!

[Myth]

Defending the Faithful?

Since the Crusades (a modern term btw, they were not called such during their own time) were sparked by the need to defend Christian (mostly Orthodox) pilgrims in the Holy Lands from marauding bands of Turks, but then escalated into a large scale conflict and a back and forth war of capturing and re-capturing key cities. For all sides involved, they were defending their faithful, ERE included. OK well maybe the Turks and the Mongols aren't defending any faithful in particular, but there has to be someone to defend FROM, right?

Also, NB, I'll be away from the internet and my PC until Sunday so keep hold of my turn until then. Can you elaborate more on your game idea that will allow crusades and will be only Catholic factions? This sounds very cool and I'd love to play it either in SS 6.4, SS 7.0 or Dominion of the Sword (if it ever comes out).

We also need more players for CoG!2, EotE and Vikingetid...

[BeerBaron]

Jerusalem up!

[Visor]

Forgot to mention earlier, I won't have a CD till Monday, so Oddsworm (BeerBaron) has my permission to sub me. Apologies.

[Myth]

The league of Aussie Crusaders? :laugh4:

[Ignoramus]

The league of Aussie Crusaders? :laugh4:

Well there are at least 3 of us. ~;p

[BeerBaron]

Sorry guys, its been a hectic weekend for me.
Ill post KoJ turn tommorow, or Visor can do it if he gets to it first.

[Rougeman]

was venice selected as playable when this started? Nightbringer

[Nightbringer]

It was, and should be available at whatever is the correct turn number.

[Rougeman]

thanks, now all i need to do is wait for said turn (14 i believe)

[Visor]

Alright, with any luck I'll be playing the turn soon.

[Visor]

Seem to have lost the disc. I'll buy a new one in a few days. Meanwhile, BeerBaron , Please post the turn. Apologies.

[Myth]

Nightbringer how about something more classic for the name - Thy Kingdom Come? I'll set up a title image for it once it's been agreed upon.

[Nightbringer]

I like it, what do others think?

[Myth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPVU_Ekg6Bw

[Myth]

Bump Nightbringer let's get this thing rolling and put the save out there to actually start playing.

[Nightbringer]

Jerusalem up!

The save is up,
here is the file again Visorslash
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=7274&d=1348826167

[Visor]

The save is up,
here is the file again Visorslash
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=7274&d=1348826167

Found my old disk. Playing.

Many apologies for the delay.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/t7mfh1

Ignoramus

[Myth]

Ignoramus bump so you remember to upload the save.

[Nightbringer]

@ignormamous
You gonna be able to play your turn?

[Ignoramus]

Many apologies - just finished my final essay for semester.

Turks up!!!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10289

[Myth]

Nightbringer bump

[Nightbringer]

egypt up Myth
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10292

[Myth]

Antioch up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10293) BeerBaron

[BeerBaron]

Them Turkish armies must remove themselves, or risk war.

Jerusalem.

[Nightbringer]

Them turkish armies are currently in their own territory, and heading to capture neutral areas that do not border you, sir crusader. :)

[BeerBaron]

I was more referring to the two free armies you get at T2 outside Antioch as the Turks
.......but yeah, those armies too :P.

[Nightbringer]

Oh, lol. This is maybe my second time playing crusades, and first as the turks, so I didn't even know I got free armies. do I get more!?!

[Visor]

Forgot how much fun this game was.

First blood has been struck against the heathens! Two Egyptians armies are decimated and sent packing. No more shall you invade the Holy Land. Begone from Jerusalem's land, or face the wrath of God! (However, before you think unjustly of me for slaying the heathens, they did initiate hostilites by sabotaging one of buildings on the frontier, we found their assassin nearby. This disgusting piece of work has led us to believe that the heathen plans to invade. Well, this will put a stop to his plans!

Egypt up, Myth 7439

[Myth]

Visor you killed mah free reinforcements! :laugh4:

edit: Visorslash that save says it's ERE not Egypt

[Nightbringer]

Myth, were you wanting to come up with a title image for the game? You always do such fine work :)

[Myth]

Image done, added it to the first post.

[Visor]

Ignoramus

Sorry, forgot who was who.

[Nightbringer]

Awesome work myth!

[Myth]

Thanks! Glad you like it. Though much of it is due to the awesome background drawing of medieval Jerusalem I found.

[Ignoramus]

Sorry for the delay!

Turks up!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10296

[Nightbringer]

egypt up Myth
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10297

[Myth]

"Infidels of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, you have breached all law and custom of the faithful and have foolishly slaughtered and plundered across our holy lands. You are spreading your false religion and amassing riches via despicable means. I, Salah-ad-din, Sultan of Egypt and first of the Ayyubid Dynasty, proclaim Jihad upon you and your own. We shall not rest until you franks have been bled dry upon the desert sands and your tin knights made slaves or decorations of wooden stakes. I advise you solemnly to leave now and avoid such slaughter, or in Allah's name you shall not receive mercy upon defeat."

Antioch up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10298) BeerBaron

[BeerBaron]

The Turkish armies are watched carefully as they are escorted back to Raqqa.

Antioch would point out though, that if any hostile Turkish units delay in our request for their removal to from our borders, then it is the view of the Prince of Antioch that they threaten the peace of the entire region. If that is the case, then the offending units may find themselves forcibly removed.


Jerusalem up.

[Visor]

7459

It takes two to tango.

Byzantines, Ignoramus

[Ignoramus]

Turks up!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10301

Pardon my ignorance, but when approximately do the Venetians tend to show up?

Nightbringer

[Myth]

I will look into the secret library of knowledge that frogbeastegg has shared with us. Froggy do you think we can publish those Kingdoms guides as a Christmas present for the .org? I'd be honoured to work with you on them.

[Visor]

Turks up!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10301

Pardon my ignorance, but when approximately do the Venetians tend to show up?

Nightbringer
around 14-17?

[Rougeman]

its the 14-16 turn

[Visor]

Nightbringer

[Nightbringer]

well, the die is cast. Antioch knights were found slaughtering unarmed Muslims in a village. In response, the Sultan has been forced to declare war on the kingdom of Antioch. The knights responsible have been killed to the man, but the chapter houses that raised such barbarians remain. Edessa has come under siege by an army of the faithful that has gathered in outrage over these events.

:)

Egypt up Myth
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10303

[Visor]

:duel:

Now the real war starts, eh?

[Myth]

It is safe to assume the two Crusader states act as one on the matter?

[Myth]

Visorslash you attacked armies that were defeated on the previous turn. The remnants of my free reinforcements on the coast.

[Visor]

Visorslash you attacked armies that were defeated on the previous turn. The remnants of my free reinforcements on the coast.

*facepalm*

Sorry about this, will replay soon.

[Visor]

7476

Ignoramus

Byzzies up!

[frogbeastegg]

I will look into the secret library of knowledge that frogbeastegg has shared with us. Froggy do you think we can publish those Kingdoms guides as a Christmas present for the .org? I'd be honoured to work with you on them.
We can see what's possible. I won't have time to look at this for a few days, so please send me a PM about it so I can't forget. If I rely solely on my sleep-deprived brain I'll probably forget.

[Visor]

Ignoramus

?

[Ignoramus]

Hey guys, really sorry about my delay in the save - been caught up with studying for an exam tomorrow morning. Will do it straight after the exam - really sorry.

[Ignoramus]

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10307

Turks up!

Nightbringer

[Nightbringer]

Ignoramus, that's the save for last turn :)

[Ignoramus]

Sorry NB!

This one *should* be right. Here's hoping...

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10311

Nightbringer

[Nightbringer]

so, um, ya, Ignoramus, that's the save for turn 3 again. This is turn 4... :/
:)

[Visor]

so, um, ya, Ignoramus, that's the save for turn 3 again. This is turn 4... :/
:)

Nightbringer

I think we are on turn 3 (I had to replay my turn because I attacked a defeated army).

[Nightbringer]

:wall:

Will get my turn up tonight.

[Nightbringer]

alright, turn replayed, Myth egypt up!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10312

[Myth]

Antioch up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10315) BeerBaron

[BeerBaron]

Despite our best efforts, the Turks have closed off all diplomatic channels. Prince Bohemund is forced to muster the Eastern garrisons of the Principality in response. Antioch remains open to peace overtures despite what is being regarded across the Levant as a disappointingly disproportionate response by the Sultan to the crimes of a few errant knights.

Relief forces under Commander de Bethune breaks the Siege of Edessa, and defeats the Turkish armies. Turkish Crown Prince as Salih is slain in battle and his armies mauled almost beyond repair. Under orders from Antioch, Regent Raynald crosses the Euphrates with a force of mercenaries and attacks a Turkish army, killing both their commander and the large majority of the Turkish reinforcements originally bound for Raqqa. Thousands die in the first season of war.

The Knights of Edessa march out. The siege of Raqqa begins.


Jerusalem up.

[Visor]

All is quiet.7621
Ignoramus

Byzantium up.

[Ignoramus]

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10318

Turks up!
Nightbringer

[Myth]

If the King of Jerusalem wishes to set forth and attempt to cross the desert or land in a sea-born invasion, instead of harrying peaceful mining settlements, our war would not be nearly as quiet. Having hold of the best ports in the Holy Lands makes the Franks dangerous opponents, but it is the will of Allah almighty that we prevail, and prevail we shall.

[Visor]

If the King of Jerusalem wishes to set forth and attempt to cross the desert or land in a sea-born invasion, instead of harrying peaceful mining settlements, our war would not be nearly as quiet. Having hold of the best ports in the Holy Lands makes the Franks dangerous opponents, but it is the will of Allah almighty that we prevail, and prevail we shall.

I believe war is a two way street. Show me some love already. :tongue:

[Myth]

I beleive we have a classic case of "NUH-UH! YOU DO IT!" :laugh4:

[Visor]

I beleive we have a classic case of "NUH-UH! YOU DO IT!" :laugh4:

Yeah, that sounds about right.

[Nightbringer]

Myth, egypt up!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10320

[Myth]

Antioch up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10321) BeerBaron

[Visor]

Nightbringer, could you clear the pass for me to sub?

[BeerBaron]

Sorry, got caught up in my exams. : D
Will do tonight!

[BeerBaron]

Multiple offensives into Turkish territory yield success for the Christians.

Jerusalem up.

[Visor]

7725

Ignoramus

Byz up.

[Nightbringer]

BeerBaron, just to double check so we don't have to replay anything again, you know you could not attack the army just east of Raqqa.

[BeerBaron]

Left it alone for this turn.

[Ignoramus]

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10326

Turks! Nightbringer

[Nightbringer]

egypt up! Myth

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10327

[Myth]

I was on a business trip across the country, sorry for the delay.

Antioch up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10328) BeerBaron

[BeerBaron]

Extension or Sub

[Myth]

I'm away until Sunday so we can wait until then or if you're allied with Visor you can give him your PW and he can sub you.

[BeerBaron]

I can possible play tommorow.
Or Visor can sub if you prefers.

[Myth]

Just play it tomorrow.

[BeerBaron]

Sorry for the delay guys, finally got my laptop fixed.
Downloading and Installing MTW2. Since Visor unable to sub right now, I will probably be able to play my turn sometime tmrw.

[BeerBaron]

Rargh, its taking too long,
Skip my turn, ill be able to play my next one.

[Myth]

BeerBaron can you have Visorslash sub you? Skipping in the middle of a war is bad mojo.

[Visor]

I'm on it.

EDIT: Played his turn, will do mine tomorrow.

[Visor]

7881

IIRC didn't you have a ship in one of the ports I was blockading Myth?

Byzantines up, Ignoramus

[Myth]

It has been dismissed due to the inferiority of the arab navy units. No point in paying for it's upkeep, I can never hope to beat you unless I outnumber you by a 2.5 ratio.

[Ignoramus]

Sorry for the delay guys.

Turks up!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10336
Visorslash Did you either surround my fleet leaving it no route to escape or double attack that 3 ship fleet you sank? I don't see how you could have sunk it on one turn otherwise?

[Myth]

Ships sink in one turn all the time in the Kingdoms mods. It happened when I attacked your fleet in Britannia, then Nightbringer wiped out my fleets in the Teutonics expansion. I think I might have sunk one of his instantly as well in that same game.

[Visor]

Just attacked it. I didn't sink your other fleet though.

I've seen a full stack of ships sunk in one battle before, more then once.
Surrounding a fleet doesn't work either. Besides, I didn't have enough ships there to do that even if I wanted to.

[Nightbringer]

ayyubids up! Myth
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10339

[Myth]

Antioch up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10340) BeerBaron

Visor, do you make these galleys from level 1 or level 2 ports?

[BeerBaron]

Sorry lateness.

Jerusalem up!

[Visor]

8095

Ignoramus

Byzzies.

[Ignoramus]

Turks up!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10342
Nightbringer

Note: Will be away until the 10th of December; hopefully this won't cause too many problems.

[Nightbringer]

egypt up Myth
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10345

[Myth]

Sorry, I was sick and away from Wednesday. I'll do this tonight.

[Myth]

Antioch up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10348) BeerBaron

[Visor]

if necessary, will sub tonight.

[Myth]

Sure thing.

[BeerBaron]

Sorry guys, been on holidays and this completely skipped my mind.
Will play tonight.

[Myth]

BeerBaron reminder. Visorslash you can sub if he is unable to play his turn.

[Myth]

BeerBaron please play that turn tonight or I'm afraid Nightbringer will have to skip you for the sake of progress.

[Myth]

Nightbringer please skip Antioch, this game has bogged down too much.

[Nightbringer]

antioch skipped, jerusalem up!
Visorslash

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10366

[Visor]

Sorry, forgot about this one. Will play this afternoon.

[Visor]

Alright I'm here and playing.

[Visor]

And Ignoramus up!8420

[Myth]

Ignoramus, still here? If not, we'll have to either find a sub or skip him.

[Nightbringer]

Ignoramus?

[Myth]

I think we need a replacement for the ERE in this game. Any takers?

[Visor]

Elite Ferret

[Ferret]

Sure. Could someone enlighten me to the current diplomatic situation?

[Myth]

I think it would be fair for all to attempt negotiation with the new Basileos, and the ERE to give and have 2-3 turns of NAP with everyone to allow the repositioning of armies based on the new diplomatic talks.

[Visor]

Sorry fellas, but I no longer have access to Medieval 2 or Kingdoms, and will have to drop out of both hotseats. Apologies.

[Nightbringer]

I'm sorry to hear that Visorslash, if things get worked out we will always be glad to have you back!

[Myth]

Too bad Visor. What seems to be the issue with your game?
Elite Ferret are you ready to play your turn?

[Ferret]

Yeah, I'm going to need the password before I can though.

[Myth]

@Nightrbringer is the admin for this one, he will reset the pw for you.

[Nightbringer]

here you go Elite Ferret

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10394

[Ferret]

I thought it was the Byzantine's turn, and that I was playing them... :laugh4:

I suppose I could take over the KoJ, but the game would suddenly become very one sided in the Muslim faction's favour...

[Myth]

Oh dang it, I thought the ERE is up. But actually the KOJ is in dire need of new leadership, otherwise I will steamroll them in 4 turns.

[Nightbringer]

Ahh, who is KOJ? :)

[Visor]

Oh dang it, I thought the ERE is up. But actually the KOJ is in dire need of new leadership, otherwise I will steamroll them in 4 turns.

:laugh4: And how exactly do you plan to do that?

I am trying to get another copy of the game, but it is not going well at the moment.

And it should be the ERE's turn?

[Nightbringer]

where is the ERE's turn then? It isn't here.

[Visor]

And Ignoramus up!8420

Here Nightbringer

[Nightbringer]

what can i say, I'm blind.
here's the correct one cleared Elite Ferret
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10395

[Ferret]

We're rolling again.

Seljukus up. Nightbringer

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10397

[Nightbringer]

Egypt up!
Myth

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10400

[Myth]

:laugh4: And how exactly do you plan to do that?

I am trying to get another copy of the game, but it is not going well at the moment.

And it should be the ERE's turn?

I meant, if they are under AI control. I have the resources to do so provided the AI does what it does best - sit back and wait to be slaughtered.

[Visor]

I meant, if they are under AI control. I have the resources to do so provided the AI does what it does best - sit back and wait to be slaughtered.

Ah, that makes more sense.

[Myth]

Antioch up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10406) Is BeerBaron still playing?

[Nightbringer]

BeerBaron?

[Ignoramus]

Hello again guys - really sorry for my absence - seems I get out of the habit of visiting the Org over the Christmas/New Year break. Fully understand my being replaced, but if there are any more hotseats needing players I am willing and ready to sign up!

For Flemish Cloth!!! :charge::charge::charge:

[Myth]

Hi Ignoramus, well actually Silver Shield dropped out of CoG!2 but his spot is filled atm.

What I'd really like us to continue is Empires of the East, and your spot as the ERE there was to be taken by Vasilefs but his installation was not spot on I think, because it made the game crash for the Georgian player. If you can download the latest ERE save and play it, restarting the BC game would be grand!

I've had some personal issues that kept me away from the TR for the past few days, but I was thinking of starting more games. One is the .org vs heavengames friendly team battle, of which we still need players on our side.

[Nightbringer]

Ignoramus, beerbaron's spot seems to be empty in this game, would you like to jump in as antioch? :)