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Seriously, WTF? (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/13/sweden-left-party-toilet-stand_n_1590572.html)
Did I ever mention Sweden being a bit off
Did I ever mention Sweden being a bit off
Piss police. This is a whole new level of stupid.
Hooahguy
08-20-2012, 19:22
Next thing you know they will install cameras in all the bathrooms!
So they are criminalizing being a guy? Are they going to outlaw penetration with anything with anything but body parts shared by males and females next?
Gregoshi
08-20-2012, 19:33
There is a cheer for this...kind of:
Lean to the Left!
Lean to the Right!
Sit down, stand up!
Wipe! Wipe! Wipe! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzKWnAyue4Y)
Paltmull
08-20-2012, 19:34
More like "WTF, 4 Left party members of the 71-member county council of Sörmland?"
Haudegen
08-20-2012, 19:34
Obviously Sweden must be the happiest place on earth if their politicians have time for debating stuff like this.
But on topic: I freely admit that I prefer to sit while peeing, if I have the choice. To me it feels more hygienic.
Piss police. This is a whole new level of stupid.
It's Sweden
Kralizec
08-20-2012, 19:36
Lol.
Wait, let me rephrase that:
:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:Bhaahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahahha:laugh4::laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
Is this supposed to become an actual law/ordinance/whatever, or is it more a "house rule" for the city hall? The latter would be somewhat less ridiculous.
Gregoshi
08-20-2012, 19:37
So they are criminalizing being a guy?
Hopefully the Right will be able to shake off the Left without leaving too much of a mess.
Will someone tell these loonies that the introduction of urinals will not only make the bathroom cleaner, but also saves water.
Paltmull
08-20-2012, 19:56
Is this supposed to become an actual law/ordinance/whatever, or is it more a "house rule" for the city hall? The latter would be somewhat less ridiculous.
More like a house rule for the city hall. Anyway, the proposal was made by a member of the local Left party, which currently occupies 4 out of 71 seats in the county council of Sörmland (this is the guy btw: http://sormlandlandsting.vansterpartiet.se/landstingsgruppen/viggo-hansen/)
So critizising Sweden for a proposal made by one guy from a tiny party in one out of 20 counties seems a bit off...
Kralizec
08-20-2012, 20:07
I figured as much. Still amusing, though.
Paltmull
08-20-2012, 20:11
I figured as much. Still amusing, though.
Indeed! This is a clip from the local TV where he enthusiastically tells about all the benefits of peeing sitting down:
http://www.svt.se/nyheter/regionalt/svtsormland/har-ska-mannen-sittkissa
You don't get the pee-shiver when sitting down, but I wouldn't really say that's a benefit.
They may take our lives....
but they'll never take......our URINALS!!!!!
Gregoshi
08-20-2012, 20:49
They may take our lives....
but they'll never take......our URINALS!!!!!
YES!!!
We shall eat our urinal cakes AND have them too!
...eh, maybe rallying cries aren't my thing. :shrug:
YES!!!
We shall eat our urinal cakes AND have them too!
...eh, maybe rallying cries aren't my thing. :shrug:
It could work though
Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
08-20-2012, 21:23
Where's Kadagar when you need him to pour his particular brand of scorn upon this?
Where's Kadagar when you need him to pour his particular brand of scorn upon this?
Kadagar isn't all that bad trust me, it's Sweden
Kralizec
08-20-2012, 22:36
It's Sweden
To be fair; maybe Sweden is a little crazy but you can't draw conclusions from this - a small party in local politics launching a loony idea.
I vaguely recall that a couple of years ago, there was this public park in some Dutch city which was a popular nightly meeting place for homosexuals. Instead of doing something about it, or even ignoring it, a local green politician was actually supportive of it and wanted to introduce a local law to regulate it...or something like that.
I vaguely recall that a couple of years ago, there was this public park in some Dutch city which was a popular nightly meeting place for homosexuals. Instead of doing something about it, or even ignoring it, a local green politician was actually supportive of it and wanted to introduce a local law to regulate it...or something like that.
Did he get re-elected?
Kralizec
08-20-2012, 22:49
Dunno. I don't remember what city it was.
Kadagar_AV
08-20-2012, 22:50
You don't get the pee-shiver when sitting down, but I wouldn't really say that's a benefit.
What is pee-shiver?!
I never even heard of it, and I find it somewhat disturbing that I am the only one to ask... Some vital part of the finer parts of the male mechanisms that I missed completely?
Reeeeegardless, yeah, a loony politician did propose this. But it was met with ridicule, so it kind of kills the story. The reality is, however, scarily close to this example..
BTW, Norway a few years ago passed a law stating men (and boys) have the legal right to stand up and pee, after a kindergarten had put a ban on standing peeing.
Paltmull
08-20-2012, 22:52
Kadagar isn't all that bad trust me, it's Sweden
I quote myself:
Is this supposed to become an actual law/ordinance/whatever, or is it more a "house rule" for the city hall? The latter would be somewhat less ridiculous.
More like a house rule for the city hall. Anyway, the proposal was made by a member of the local Left party, which currently occupies 4 out of 71 seats in the county council of Sörmland (this is the guy btw: http://sormlandlandsting.vansterpartiet.se/landstingsgruppen/viggo-hansen/)
So critizising Sweden for a proposal made by one guy from a tiny party in one out of 20 counties seems a bit off...
Will someone tell these loonies that the introduction of urinals will not only make the bathroom cleaner, but also saves water.
No urinals are entirely unsanitary. I never use them, and I also never stand to wizz.
What is pee-shiver?!
I never even heard of it, and I find it somewhat disturbing that I am the only one to ask... Some vital part of the finer parts of the male mechanisms that I missed completely?
From one of my favorite Straight Dope topics! (http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1044/what-causes-piss-shiver)
Kralizec
08-20-2012, 23:26
I found some articles about the story I was talking about:
http://vorige.nrc.nl/binnenland/article1884965.ece/www.stamos.nl
http://napnieuws.nl/2009/02/06/de-bekendste-homo-ontmoetingsplek-van-het-land/
Dutch, of course.
It was a sub-division of Amsterdam; the ruling body announced that it was going to watch out more closely for dog owners who leave dog poo in the park, and (here it comes) at the same time allow the gay cruising in the park to continue despite sex acts in public being against the law. The reasoning being that dog poo is a nuisance, while the gay cruisers do their stuff at night and make sure noone notices them.
Allthough, apparently, it didn't really change anything - Amsterdam had been tolerating it for years; they just made it official.
Hooahguy
08-20-2012, 23:28
I also never stand to wizz.
Are you a woman?
If so, carry on.
Are you a man?
You should be ashamed.
Montmorency
08-20-2012, 23:32
I don't see how urinals could be less sanitary than the alternative.
You're not meant to :daisy: in a urinal, you know. Does that help?
Papewaio
08-20-2012, 23:36
Stool, spit, snot and sperm are all potential vectors.
Urine is also if the person has an infection. However urine is probably one of the cleanest human discharges.
Piss police. This is a whole new level of stupid.
Yep, and just below that level of stupid is how men sit in public transportation. http://www.vice.com/read/swedish-feminists-are-so-bored-theyre-telling-men-how-to-sit-on-the-bus
VICE: Your blog claims that men who take up more space than they physically need when using public transport are practicing an "invisible and unconscious expression of power in an everyday, public space." Can men oppress women without even knowing it?
My Vingren: Absolutely. I think one of the most problematic aspects of having such an extensive power structure is that a lot of people aren't even aware that how they act affects others. The fact that men get more space in classrooms, at board meetings, and so on, is part of a structural oppression that not everyone knows they're taking part in.
Kadagar_AV
08-21-2012, 01:03
Yep, and just below that level of stupid is how men sit in public transportation. http://www.vice.com/read/swedish-feminists-are-so-bored-theyre-telling-men-how-to-sit-on-the-bus
Oh the public transport thing...
Yeah, it was a media and blog CIRCUS around it... All hell broke lose...
Men sit with their legs wide, taking more space in public transportation, forcing the poor women to sit with their legs more together or crossed...
Yep, and just below that level of stupid is how men sit in public transportation.
Hmm, this is like Saudi Arabia in reverse.
Men sit with their legs wide, taking more space in public transportation, forcing the poor women to sit with their legs more together or crossed...
On the other hand, anything that encourages women to keep their legs wide open is okay in my book.
Ironside
08-21-2012, 08:33
Hmm, this is like Saudi Arabia in reverse.
Completely actually. Radical feminists with very small influence is freely expressing thier opinion vs a very influencial goverment who massivly oppress their female population.
As for the original topic. I suspect that they probably has one or two males with "perfect" aim who don't clean up since their aim wouldn't be "perfect" anymore if they did, on the workplace.
However urine is probably one of the cleanest human discharges.
Yep... we used to pee into a man's wound to disinfect it.
And this is just some agurk (cucumber) news about a man aggravated over other men having poor aiming skills.
And it is sweden... :sneaky:
We should rather ask why the originator of this proposal would want genderless toilets. Which is apparently why he put forward this suggestion.
Kagemusha
08-21-2012, 13:16
Swedes....:shrug:
Are you a woman?
If so, carry on.
Are you a man?
You should be ashamed.
I'm a man, who hates standing to whiz. Always have, always will. And is incapable of feeling shame about that.
Major Robert Dump
08-25-2012, 12:44
I pee in the sink. So much more convenient
Kadagar_AV
08-25-2012, 13:55
I'm a man, who hates standing to whiz. Always have, always will. And is incapable of feeling shame about that.
Pics or it didn't happen.
Gregoshi
08-25-2012, 16:13
Pics or it didn't happen.
I'm willing to take his word for it...
Pics or it didn't happen.
You coming on to me?
I pee in the sink. So much more convenient
So your elventy feet tall then.
I usually go in plastic bottles that I store in my backpack. It's more hygenic that way.
Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
08-26-2012, 03:50
Kadagar isn't all that bad trust me, it's Sweden
You get a double lol for that.
Cookie to first person who says why.
What is pee-shiver?!
I never even heard of it, and I find it somewhat disturbing that I am the only one to ask... Some vital part of the finer parts of the male mechanisms that I missed completely?
Reeeeegardless, yeah, a loony politician did propose this. But it was met with ridicule, so it kind of kills the story. The reality is, however, scarily close to this example..
BTW, Norway a few years ago passed a law stating men (and boys) have the legal right to stand up and pee, after a kindergarten had put a ban on standing peeing.
So Sweden hasn't passed a law declaring a man's rights?
For shame.
About the shiver thing - I never used to get it, now sometimes I get it when I'm drunk.
No urinals are entirely unsanitary. I never use them, and I also never stand to wizz.
No, they aren't. A Urinal is inherently cleaner than a toilet because there is no standing water, hence no splash back and fewer particles released into the air because it is rinsed not flushed. The smell you get is the ammonia in the Urine, it's perfectly safe and actually kills germs.
With a toilet feces and urine mix, which is highly unsanitary, as the bacteria in the feces breads much faster in the Urine-laced water, promoting diseases you don't get in pure Urine and aren't particularly active in stool.
Now, blocked public Urinals are a different story, but that's the result of hooligans vandalising them.
So your elventy feet tall then.
You don't stand to whizz, your opinion is irrelevant.
Lots of men pee in the sink - mostly forces and students, for reasons of economy and intoxication, and because billets and student rooms tend to have sinks but you have to go down the corridor to find a toilet.
ICantSpellDawg
08-26-2012, 06:18
I will take a dump in the sink in protest. God made this entire world man's urinal, except for "the wall"
"Therefore, behold, I will bring evil upon the house of Jeroboam, and will cut off from Jeroboam him that pisseth against the wall," (1 Kings 14:10)
Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
08-26-2012, 15:50
Well, if by billets you mean barracks.. the most common practice is to drink and smoke outside in a large and rowdy group and relieve yourself on the side of the building.
Even when in a Garrison?
What about passing Officers?
Lots of men pee in the sink - mostly forces and students, for reasons of economy and intoxication, and because billets and student rooms tend to have sinks but you have to go down the corridor to find a toilet.
Yeah, that's how we roll.
Don't want to put on your boxers to crawl to the toilet while you might bump into your cute neighbour who you woke up at 5:00 am by your previous rather noisy toiletusage, especially considering you might not make it back.
No, they aren't. A Urinal is inherently cleaner than a toilet because there is no standing water, hence no splash back and fewer particles released into the air because it is rinsed not flushed. The smell you get is the ammonia in the Urine, it's perfectly safe and actually kills germs.
With a toilet feces and urine mix, which is highly unsanitary, as the bacteria in the feces breads much faster in the Urine-laced water, promoting diseases you don't get in pure Urine and aren't particularly active in stool.
Now, blocked public Urinals are a different story, but that's the result of hooligans vandalising them.
Unless the toilet can't flush mixing is a none issue. It's unsanitary because everyone else's junk touches them.
You don't stand to whizz, your opinion is irrelevant.
Lots of men pee in the sink - mostly forces and students, for reasons of economy and intoxication, and because billets and student rooms tend to have sinks but you have to go down the corridor to find a toilet.
I'm of average height for a male. My willy would never reach into a sink without a stool.
Papewaio
08-26-2012, 20:13
But kitchen sink height isn't made for men :creep:
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Sinks here generally made waist high for someone of about 5'4" to 5'8" depending on the build and age of the home.
Montmorency
08-26-2012, 20:48
Unless the toilet can't flush mixing is a none issue. It's unsanitary because everyone else's junk touches them.
Social anxiety? Just how hard do you work to keep your genitals concealed?
Et tu, Taiwan? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19390785)
Vladimir
08-27-2012, 15:13
Et tu, Taiwan? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19390785)
"We want to learn from Japan and Sweden," said Yuan Shaw-jing, EPA director general of environmental santitation and toxic substance maintenance.
There you go, it's precedence.
Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
08-27-2012, 15:18
Would this be the point to mention that, in fact, women do not sit in public loos - they hover.
Who's going to actually sit on a pubic convenience I mean, come on.
Strike For The South
08-27-2012, 19:45
I sit on public toilets
I sit on public toilets
Strike, you are a public toilet. ~;)
Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
08-27-2012, 21:32
Do you not have those neat little disposable seat covers in a box above the public latrines in the UK? Most women I know swear by them.
They have started to appear, but aren't common.
Myself, I sit on the public toilet. In fact, I prefer the design of public toilet seats to the one in my own home; it would be folly to pass up an opportunity to drop a duece in a public toilet given the chance.
I mean, seriously... look at that ergonomic seat, with the open space in front for your junk. Not cramped and awkward, like most home toilet seats. Plus, with a public toilet, you know you only need to flush once. usually...
https://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w324/PrivateMajorG/public-toilet-seat.jpg[/QUOTE]
But, really, I meant the grotty public conveniences the Victorians built, not the gentleman's cloakroom in my local pub which I so nice that when I threw up in the toilet there I went back a couple of days later to apologise.
I sleep on public toilets. They're quite comfy actually.
Philippus Flavius Homovallumus
08-28-2012, 03:46
Ah, yes. There is only one thing to do when confronted with a restroom that is unbelievably nasty: Break out the sharpie and jot down some Chuck Norris jokes on the wall!
https://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w324/PrivateMajorG/sdfdsfg.jpg
From this we may infer one thing: Man Law really is universal.
Montmorency
08-28-2012, 07:11
I mean, seriously... look at that ergonomic seat, with the open space in front for your junk.
I don't believe that your "junk" could be so large as to...
a completely inoffensive name
08-28-2012, 07:58
I don't believe that your "junk" could be so large as to...
Oh wow. Monty must have never changed clothes for PE in high school with everyone else.
Vladimir
08-28-2012, 13:22
Oh wow. Monty must have never changed clothes for PE in high school with everyone else.
Well it seems like he's not the "full" Monty. Yuck yuck.
Montmorency
08-28-2012, 20:00
Oh wow. Monty must have never changed clothes for PE in high school with everyone else.
Eh? We didn't spend too much time hanging about in our boxers...
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