[M2TW] Kingdoms and Empires

[Myth]

https://img687.imageshack.us/img687/129/kingdomsandempires.jpg




Kingdoms and Empires

A simple return to the roots of hotseat gaming! An AR using vanilla M2TW. The road to victory is not a complicated one - be the last human faction standing!


Victory conditions:Be the last human faction in the game, either by way of elimination or resignation from the other players. Team victories are not allowed, one must concede if the game reaches a 1v1 scenario.

Mode of battle: AR versus human players, lead battles versus the AI. Reloading is not allowed.

Myth - Kingdom of England
Darth Feather - Kingdom of Spain
Mithridate - Sultanate of Egypt
Elite Ferret - Denmark
Nigel - The Holy Roman Empire
Nightbringer - Eastern Roman Empire
Rougeman - The Kingdom of France
Visorslash -The Tsardom of Russia

Rules

Each player has 48 hours to complete his turn (not counting weekends). After that the Admin may skip his faction or he can be subbed.

Do not bypass or ignore zones of control to lift a siege (or in any other way).

Do not attack ships in ports.

Armies boarding ships in ports can't stay there for more than one turn.

Don't leave blockaded ports without beating the blockading ships first.

Don't stack merchants in armies or forts to get more than one to stand on the same resource (Merchant Fort)

No surrounding armies or agents to destroy them. (Surround&Destroy)

Don't attack units who were left next to a settlement in order to capture it on the same turn in order to cheat the garrison script. In fact don't cheat the garrison script period. (this only applies vs AI factions)

Don't use repeated offers for bribe to increase your faction leader's dread.

Enable "Unlimited men on battlefield" in order to not abuse when leading battles vs the AI (PM me for instructions, though SS has this on by default)

Armies that are defeated in battle by a player that comes after them in the turn list may not move the following turn. This is to make it fair for people who are defeated by players that come before them in the turn list, and thus lose all their movement points

Armies that are defeated in battle may not be attacked on the following turn, as they are banned from moving, either by the game mechanics or by the rule above. They must be allowed to move first, or must be reinforced. If the defeated army retreats to a settlement or fort, this rule does not apply.

Ballistas can't open anything, catapults can open wooden walls, trebuchets or better can open anything.

Assassins are allowed to target anyone but the players are limited to one assassination attempt per turn. It must be the first action they do, before they spend money or do anything else. Upon a successful assassination the game admin can load that player's save and attempt the assassination. If the results are different there will be penalties for cheating.

Spies are not allowed to open anything.

Crusades and Jihads cannot be called, joined or used/exploited in any way.

ONLY religious buildings can be destroyed upon the conquest of a settlement and ONLY if they are of a religion different than your own.

No trading of provinces to receive free troops. If you trade provinces, make sure they have no garrison prior to the exchange.

No deliberate deals that would put you in debt above -10,000 florins.

How to set up your game:

We are using vanilla M2TW in hotseat mode, huge unit scale. You must remember to enable unlimited men on battlefield if you have not! If you don't know how, ask.

When the game starts, we pass down the save to the next player in line via PM and in a message here in this thread. Saves are archived (rar, zip etc.) and uploaded in the .org uploader or another similar file hosting service. The game will be set up at VH/VH, follow AI off, Manage All Settlements on, Long campaign, No advice, and there will be a battle time limit.

Helpful tips for those who are new to Hotseat games can be found here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?138876-The-comprehensive-guide-to-hotseat-play).

[Myth]

You may now start claiming factions. I'm an England lover myself tough I will concede them if someone really wants to play them.

[Darth Feather]

I never played hotseats before but I would love to play as spain. :bow:

[Myth]

Welcome Darth Feather! Spain it is then :2thumbsup:

Do you have any specific questions? Try and reading the guide on hotseats, I've explained everything there (it's stickied here in the TR and mentioned in the original post). Basically each player grabs a faction and we play to the best of our abilities. We autoresolve versus other players for this game (in other game we allow leading battles versus human players, but that changes the game drastically). Remember, in M2TW infantry with 16+ defence and 150 or more men per unit rules in autoresolve, whilst archers and cav are of little to no use.

[Mithridate]

I shall participate, but ive not chosen a faction as of yet^^

And welcome indeed!

[Ferret]

Can I take Denmark please?

I'd also like to put on record just how bad I am at this game. I think Zim wiped me out in five turns, or something ridiculous, in the first Crusades hotseat.

[Mithridate]

Elite Ferret dont worry, dont hesitate to ask if you have any questions.
Reading Myths guide is a quickstart but pure experience is vital

And experience comes by trial and error... lots of error^^

[Ferret]

I have quite a lot of hotseat experience though, and I'm still rubbish. :clown:

Or maybe this is all a bluff, in preparation of WORLD DOMINATION!

No, no it's not.

[Myth]

I'm thinking of doing a more laid back, diplomacy heavy game this time and I will not attack new players right off the bat. I'm not promising anything for the old dogs Mithridate Nightbringer:laugh4:

Speaking of old dogs: _Tristan_, Thanatos Eclipse, Ignoramus, Visorslash, The King, Cecil XIX, anyone else willing to join?

[Mithridate]

Old dog? little me?http://www.wall321.com/thumbnails/detail/20120407/happy%20win%20meme%20white%20background%201920x1200%20wallpaper_www.wallpaperto.com_77.jpg
You just made me a very happy guy Myth Nigel LooseCannon1 Slaists freakkriek Rougeman wanna join? phonicsmonkey Zim wildcards^^ Ishmael

I should add im fine with any faction but Scotland, Poland or Hungary^^

[Myth]

If you get recommendations from Silver Shield and me then you no longer get newbie protection :laugh4:

[Nigel]

Well, I was still hoping for Vikingetid to take off, but it seems it is not (yet).

Also, while I would love someday to organize one of my own ideas (Rivals of the Hundred Years War), my RL currently does not allow me to be anything more than a participant.

But, yea, I'll be happy to be in this one. :clown:
No particular preference for factions - I will be happy with whatever there is.

[freakkriek]

thanks for the invite but pretty full on the hotseat quota so maybe next time

[Nightbringer]

welcome Darth Feather and Elite Ferret!

I myself will take the reigns of the glorious Byzantine Empire!

[Myth]

OK, so I guess that's everyone for now. Please choose your factions and we can start on Sunday/Monday:

Myth - Kingdom of England
Darth Feather - Kingdom of Spain
Mithridate - undecided on faction choice
Elite Ferret - Denmark
Nigel - undecided on faction choice
Nightbringer - Eastern Roman Empire

Get ready folks!

[Darth Feather]

A quick question. Do I have to mod medieval to be able to play in hotseat?

[Myth]

Nope. Just regular M2TW patched (or if you have Kingdoms it's already patched)

[Visor]

Possible for me to still join? Russia if possible. I'll need to be subbed (if possible) for possibly the first two turns. But I should be able to give clear instructions to the player subbing.

[Myth]

Sure, and welcome!

[Visor]

Sure, and welcome!

Thanks. I'll send a picture of my opening turns, etc to whoever wants to sub, be it you or whoever tomorrow if I get the time.

[Myth]

The game won't start before Sunday evening EU time since I'm away. I can sub you, since we're on the opposite ends of the map we won't likely have a war any time soon.

I'm surprised no one took the HRE or France though.

[Rougeman]

I'm surprised no one took the HRE or France though.

If you insist :tongue:

[Myth]

Which one do you pick then? :laugh4:

[Rougeman]

hmm, hard to choose, i'm inclined to pick France though that's a dangerous choice with two undecided players who could choose both HRE and England and decide to do a WW2 Poland on me :grin:

ill throw myself with France.

[Myth]

I'm England so don't worry about it. In fact, HRE has to worry about Denmark and France eating them up.

[Rougeman]

hmm, good point :yes:

[Darth Feather]

You do have spain in your backyard though :hide:

[Rougeman]

I'm sure you'd rather kill some Moors than pick on little me...

...

right...?

[Nigel]

OK, it is HRE for me then. :knight:

[Darth Feather]

I'm sure you'd rather kill some Moors than pick on little me...

...

right...?

Sure, his popiness will love me for it. Just watch your back :laugh4:

[Mithridate]

Then i shall be mighty Egypt ;)

[Myth]

Myth - Kingdom of England
Darth Feather - Kingdom of Spain
Mithridate - Sultanate of Egypt
Elite Ferret - Denmark
Nigel - The Holy Roman Empire
Nightbringer - Eastern Roman Empire
Rougeman - The Kingdom of France
Visorslash -The Tsardom of Russia

Let's have fun with this one folks :2thumbsup:

France up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10369) Rougeman

Here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?143375-Kingdoms-and-Empires-Diplomacy-thread) is the diplomacy thread.

[Rougeman]

Nigel

[Nigel]

Darth Feather

Spanish game is uploaded:

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[Darth Feather]

Nightbringer

Eastern Roman Empire up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10373) (hope this works)

[phonicsmonkey]

Nice to see a new game getting started!

Thanks for the invite Mithridate, but I'm still in hotseat retirement.

[Visor]

I will be home on the 31st. You can skip me if you want, but I would rather you didn't, as my first turns are vital.

[Nightbringer]

Rus up! Visorslash

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10374

[Myth]

OK 31st it is then. I can also sub you as your first turn will be mainly moving armies with low MP in vanilla.

[Darth Feather]

My computer broke down. It can take until next tuesday before I have it back. If I have to play before that date (and if I don't post an other message) could someone please sub?

[Darth Feather]

Never mind, my computer is back in business :computer:

[Nightbringer]

Excellent! :)

[Visor]

I'm here and about to play my turn. Thanks a lot for waiting, and sorry for the hold up.

[Visor]

Mithridate

Egypt up! 8509

[Visor]

Don't attack units who were left next to a settlement in order to capture it on the same turn in order to cheat the garrison script. In fact don't cheat the garrison script period. (this only applies vs AI factions)
Myth

That is a KGCM rule if I recall correctly. That won't be necessary in this hotseat, considering that it is a vanilla one, right?

[Myth]

Erm yes, it's a copy-paste thing.

[Mithridate]

I had forgotten about this completely, sorry busy days^^ ( woke up 4.30 pm today )
Playing shortly, very sorry for the massive delay!

[Mithridate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UXGEbaP5UgYea... you should be afraid^^

Time to bring the fun to the world!

[Ferret]

Turn 1 done. Took me a while to find out where the saves are kept on windows 8 (it seems they try harder to hide them each time...) but I got there in the end.

You're up Myth.

[Myth]

France up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10379) Rougeman

[Nigel]

Rougeman, just a reminder that your turn is up.

Should we wait? Sub? Skip?
Up to Myth to decide, I would say.

[Myth]

Dang it. Being his next door neighbour it'd not be good if I sub him. Who is up to do it?

[Nightbringer]

I can do it tonight.

[Rougeman]

ah crap, I had thought I had done it and posted it, am doing it right now :oops:
Nigel http://www.mediafire.com/?cws6uepv298azso

[Visor]

Myth - Kingdom of England
Rougeman - The Kingdom of France
Nigel - The Holy Roman Empire
Darth Feather - Kingdom of Spain
Nightbringer - Eastern Roman Empire
Visorslash -The Tsardom of Russia
Mithridate - Sultanate of Egypt
Elite Ferret - Denmark

This is the actual turn order by the way.

[Nigel]

Darth Feather

Spain is uploaded.

8563

[Darth Feather]

Nightbringer

Eastern Roman Empire (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10382) is ready to go

[Nightbringer]

Russia up! Visorslash
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10383

[Visor]

Mithridate

Egypt up.8567

[Mithridate]

Next

[Ferret]

Myth England up.

Turn 3 begins!

Edit: As does page 3, coincidentally :laugh4:

[Nigel]

Myth,
little reminder ~:)

[Myth]

I have been away to celebrate the 14th with my GF :bow: I will do my turns tonight.

[Mithridate]

Well? Myth

[Myth]

Well. I've been trying to find an alternative but no dice. Despite there being a working admin password for this game, somehow the console is still enabled and cheats work. So even though it probably is not compromised yet, it would suck a lot more to play for 35 turns only to end it like COG1 did. I cannot find the reason for why the cheats work despite the admin password working, so now to remedy this the only choice is to restart with the console disabled...

[Nigel]

So, does this mean we are restarting?


By the way:

I have been away to celebrate the 14th with my GF
Congratulations! Some marriges don't last that long.

[Myth]

Heh well... I hadn't announced this but I broke up with my GF of 2 years in December 2011. I've been after this girl since then and we've been officially together since August 2012, though unofficially... Anyway, yes I feel we must restart as anyone can go bananas with the cheats. What do the rest of you think?

[Ferret]

Yeah there are some cheats that would be near impossible to detect unless we had an independent person check the save after every person's turn.

I would trust everyone not to use it but it would probably be best to start again to avoid any possible future disputes. It's not as if we've played much anyway.

Might have worked if you hadn't mentioned it, I know I would never have noticed that the console still works. :clown:

[Myth]

It says with big red letters "Console disabled: NO" which prompted me to check if anything is amiss. The weird thing is that the admin PW (worldwarm2tw) works a-ok...

[Darth Feather]

Well, :daisy: happens. Let's just restart with the console disabled.

[Nigel]

Well, not much has happened yet (turn 2 just completed).
So if we want to restart, this is a good time for it.

[Myth]

OK I propose Nightbringer takes care of the initial save to see if his password and stuff will work.

[Nightbringer]

Ok, you will have to tell me how to do it though as I have quite forgotten how to actually enable hotseat for the base game

[Myth]

Welll there is a guide right here on the .org but seeing as how I messed it up I suppose I'm not the one to give advice. Alternatively we can just make it and disable the console. But that way we'll have no chance to reset passwords for factions.

[Nightbringer]

Duh, forgot about that. Things have been crazy busy lately but I should get a new game started tomorrow, hopefully with a working admin/console setup

[Nightbringer]

Got it up and working, including the console system, england up! Myth

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10392

[Nigel]

Just to let you know, that I will be afk during the weekend.
Hopefully this is not holding things up too much.

[Myth]

Thanks NB! Good job with the save!

Turn 1 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10393) for France Rougeman

[Visor]

Sorry fellas, but I no longer have access to Medieval 2 or Kingdoms, and will have to drop out of both hotseats. Apologies.

[Darth Feather]

Sorry to hear that :(

I might be able to replace in the crusade hotseat if you can find no-one else

[Myth]

Rougeman you up for France? If not then Nightbringer you can set them as AI for now...

[Nightbringer]

I sent him a pm last night, and he has been active somewhat recently on the forums, so I will give him 1 more day.

[Nightbringer]

france set to ai control, HRE up Nigel
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10396

[Rougeman]

sorry guys, my broadband provider shut down and have been without internet, got my friend to check if my turn was up.

[Nigel]

Hopefully we will have you back for the next round, Rougeman.

Darth Feather, Spain up.

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[Darth Feather]

Nightbringer

Eastern Roman Empire is up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10401)

[Nightbringer]

Russia up! Visorslash ?

Should I set you to ai visor? It sounded like you may get a new copy of the game soon?

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10404

[Visor]

Set me to AI, tried and failed to get a copy. Nightbringer

Incidentally, I was going to have taken Stockholm before Denmark, Russia can get there before hand and I was on track to take it first.

[Nightbringer]

done, egypt up Mithridate
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10408

[Mithridate]

Danes

[Ferret]

Myth England (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10409) up.

[Myth]

HRE up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10411) Nigel

[Nigel]

Spain's turn.

Darth Feather

8798

[Darth Feather]

I am feeling kinda stupid. I forgot my pw :shame:

WHat should I do now?

[Nightbringer]

i can clear it for you tomorrow morning and you can reset it :)

[Darth Feather]

Thanks Nightbringer
Next player up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10413)

[Myth]

Darth Feather 'twould be nice for you to actually tag the next player who is up (unless that's actually Nightbringer)

[Darth Feather]

It is nightbringer :)

[Nightbringer]

doh, that was silly of me, will get it done soon :) Glad you got the game working darth!

[Nightbringer]

egypt up Mithridate
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10415

[Mithridate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vN_VUQE9OOs#at=117
(An English cover, of a Russian gypsy jazz cover, from an English fan-parody and one of its songs, all based on a cartoon about ponies...

WE'RE GOING TOO DEEP, ABORT, ABORT)
Jerusalem and Adana are under siege

Nicosia would serve well to be in Egyptian hands...
We hereby offer a NAP to the Byzantines, what are your terms?

[Ferret]

Myth England up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10416)

[Nightbringer]

That you shall take no lands further North than Antioch. (excepting if you go over into europe or the like)

[Mithridate]

You claim all the anatolia/seljuk territory? In return for a NAP and offer nothing more?

No, Roman... This will not do.

[Nightbringer]

And what exactly should we offer? We hand you all of the Holy Land without quibble.

[Mithridate]

You hand us nothing, we take what is rightfully ours and already in our grasp. We could just as easily "hand" you the balkan and the westernmost anatolia.
We offer a guarantee of peace in return for one and inquire regarding taking over Nicosia. All of this is on equal and fair terms and we would have our dealings be handled as such.

20 Turn NAP, signed under god and men alike for the assured prosperity of both our peoples.

[Nightbringer]

We hand over Nicosia? That is absurd. We shall maintain Nicossia and will take control of ALL of Anatolia. What would you think if we swept in and took Edessa, Jurasalem, and the like? You would like it little as these lands clearly fall inside your interests, just as Anatolia falls within ours.

[Myth]

The English diplomat speaks:

"My Liege would be most distressed should the Holy City of Jerusalem fall into Muslim hands, especially if the Egyptian Caliph continues to threaten good Christian realms such as the Eastern Roman Empire!"

[Mithridate]

We hand over Nicosia? That is absurd. We shall maintain Nicossia and will take control of ALL of Anatolia. What would you think if we swept in and took Edessa, Jurasalem, and the like? You would like it little as these lands clearly fall inside your interests, just as Anatolia falls within ours.Our inquiries for a takeover of Nicosia have been rejected outright, understandable. We where hoping to come to some agreement where you would have it as leverage... perhaps for land based claims? But as you wish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pukDzbhXD7Y
Should you attempt to grab holdings in the holy land, that would be your own business assuming said lands are not in Egyptian hands, allies of Egypt or anything but the loosest grounds.
But indeed, we would prefer these lands to be under our influence, just as you would the balkan. This is exactly our point regarding your statement of "handing" over lands, with the addition of stating that you have few ways of enforcing Roman rule here as we have Egyptian in the balkans! Its a void offering, one of empty words based upon an illusion of superiority.

However, Romans... Adana is under siege and about to be captured by our forces, our claim over it is about to be enforced. Do you press claim over it and indeed ALL of the anatolia?

You have yet to respond to our offer of a NAP

"My Liege would be most distressed should the Holy City of Jerusalem fall into Muslim hands, especially if the Egyptian Caliph continues to threaten good Christian realms such as the Eastern Roman Empire!"We have threatened no one, not even you and your loose tongue.
Jerusalem will be ours, as will most if not all the middle east excluding some of the anatolia.

[Darth Feather]

If you give the pilgrims free passage to the holy grave, spain can agree with your claim on Jerusalem.

We would also strongly suggest you don't help the Moors either military or financially as they took teritory that is rightfully ours.

[Nightbringer]

As your forces are already at Adana that can be accepted, but any moves further into Anatolia shall be considered a direct threat to the Empire. If you can agree to this we will gladly sign a NAP.

[Mithridate]

So, you agree to a NAP on the terms we advance no further into the anatolia?
You may have some holdings over its western parts, but to claim all of it from our fellow Muslim brothers?

We are to be restricted and shunned, yet you are to roam free and conquer?
No, we cannot agree to this for we seek equal terms.
We again, offer you an unconditional NAP or demand something in return for the restriction.

If you want the anatolia, take it before we do.

Let it be known that Jerusalem will welcome all pilgrims and assure their safety, however preachers of other factions causing unrest are barred.

[Nightbringer]

Anatolia is rightly ours, and shall be within the next few years. If you refuse to respect our borders than why should we respect yours? Marking Anatolia as our domain, and the Holy land as yours, is precisely equal. You are simply trying to bully your way into the agreement you desire.

[Mithridate]

Rightfully yours as much as ours, if not moreso ours.

I dont call for you to stay out of the holy lands whom we already all but control, yet you call for us to stay out of the anatolia whom you hardly control?
Dont lay claim to what you are yet to have. If you worry outsiders taking control of what you view as yours then you cannot rightfully to call it yours or your borders... the notion is absurd.

Try to take the holy lands if you wish, we dont mind. You do mind us going into the anatolia, for us to stray from doing so you should offer us something.
Or you could do the easy thing and TAKE it before we do whilst having a bloody nap to be assured of "your borders being respected". We will not hold from expanding into the anatolia whom is by no means yours.

We are talking in circles and getting nowhere -.-'

[Nightbringer]

Very well, you are showing that you have no desire to actually work with the Empire, and as such we shall not sign a NAP with you.

[Mithridate]

Ive got no clue as to how you deduct that but:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_eDXhih_NW4#!
What a complete waste of time, just reject the NAP outright next time please -.-'

[Myth]

"That the Fatamid diplomat cannot conceive of his own attitude and how much apparent it is from the way he talks is... disturbing. England rests on the other end of the known world but, in time, we shall revisit the issue of Jerusalem, Catholic priests and all."\

HRE up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10418) Nigel

As to the news of our own realm - our good King has claimed the entirety of the Kingdom of France as his birthright (he is the Duke of Normandy and recently annexed several French provinces), and should be crowned as King of England, France and Scotland in the following year. All rulers of note are invited to send envoys at the coronation in Westminster Abbey when the joyous event comes to pass.

We urge the Kaiser of the Holy Roman Empire to form prosperous trade and bonds of friendship with England and turn his gaze from our Kingdom of France, as well as the independent port of Antwerp.

[Nigel]

Spain uploaded, Darth Feather

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Am in a bit of a rush as I will be leaving for travels and be afk from Friday onwards for the next week.
Apologies for not taking part in the diplomatic life during that time - dont take my silence for disinterst or rejection.

[Darth Feather]

His majesty Rodrigo of spain can agree with the English rights on the French throne. He wants to give a NAP. He offers to make a border around the pyrinees. Spain will not go north of said border if England doesn't go south of this border. What do you say?

He also offers bonds of friendship and wants to trade. His majesty will send a diplomat as soon as possible.

Eastern Roman Empire up Nightbringer

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10419

[Nightbringer]

Mithridate up!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10420

[Myth]

His majesty Rodrigo of spain can agree with the English rights on the French throne. He wants to give a NAP. He offers to make a border around the pyrinees. Spain will not go north of said border if England doesn't go south of this border. What do you say?

He also offers bonds of friendship and wants to trade. His majesty will send a diplomat as soon as possible.

Eastern Roman Empire up Nightbringer

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10419

That is most agreeable. We shall come down only if Christendom itself is threatened by the Muslim threat of the Moorish Caliphate.

[Brother Sam]

This looks extremely fun. Is there a space available? Preferably a nice easy, beginners faction if one still is unclaimed.

So I simply need MTW II (I have Kingdoms too), and I don't need to do anything with my game? No console code or anything like that?

Also, what is an NAP?

[Nightbringer]

A NAP is a non aggression pact, basically a mutual promise to not attack eachother. As for faction choice I would suggest Russia, as no one has attacked it yet and it has a strong starting position. I can set that to human controlled for you later today.

[Brother Sam]

Excellent! It's all fairly straight forward right? How long are we talking before it gets round to Russia again, I'm not holding you up already am I? :)

[Nightbringer]

Not sure how long it will be exactly, but you certainly aren't holding us up. And yep, it is strait forward. The player before you in the turn order will upload a save file, you just put it int he saves folder and load it in game. When you are done, you end the turn, save the game on the splash screen for the next player, and upload that file for them. :) If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask!

and Mithridate, please use this save file instead, thanks!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10424

[Brother Sam]

That sounds simple, thanks. And yes, just to confirm I'll take your suggestion of Russia :)

Is there a file which I can download to have a little check to see what stupidity the AI have been up to? Or is it all password protected and such I've to wait for my turn?

[Mithridate]

Sorry will get to my turn asap, been having problems with my cpu but its fixed now

[Mithridate]

ext http://www.filedropper.com/ke-danes-t3

[Ferret]

Myth England up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10425)

[Myth]

Nigel HRE up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10426)

The Kaiser is yet to respond to England's claims to the French throne and the realm of France, but we understand he has been preocupied with domestic matters. Nevertheless a princess of England has been sent to personally negotiate trade and borders with His imperial majesty.

[Brother Sam]

Thanks for the welcome Myth! I've taken a look at the Polish infantry compared with Russian infantry and I do agree that I'd be better off with the Poles, they aren't as unique but have better attributes. I'll need all the help I can get with this! :)

[Nightbringer]

Myth, the save you uploaded is still no your turn. Do you mind switching russia to ai and poland to human while you fix it? feel free to pm me if you don't know the pw

[Nigel]

yes, Myth, the uploaded game is still on the English turn and I cannot get into it.

You might as well, if you can, change it and set Poland to human and Russia to AI, as NB suggested.
Wellcome Brother Sam :smile:

[Brother Sam]

Thanks Nigel ~:)

[Myth]

Nightbringer the admin pw does not work. Please make Poland as playable. The save is here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10428).

[Nightbringer]

Nigel, here is the correct save
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10429


myth, I'm not sure what's wrong, that was the correct pw. :/

[Nigel]

Darth Feather

Spains Turn uploaded.

9051

[Darth Feather]

Nightbringer

Byzantine Empire up

(apologies for the delay, RL issues. )

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10432

[Nightbringer]

egypt up Mithridate!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10434

[Mithridate]

sorry for lateness, playing now ( in AU on vacation^^ )

[Ferret]

Poland (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10437) are up.

[Nightbringer]

Has anyone heard from Brother Sam?

[Brother Sam]

I'm really sorry had a very busy couple of weeks, I forgot about this for a couple of days! Then I had a panic when I remembered! I've downloaded the file, I'm on it now. Hopefully it will be nice and straightforward. :)

[Brother Sam]

This should be England up.
Myth

[Myth]

Aww damn, I forgot about this and I'm travelling this weekend. I will do this on Monday, I hope the delay isn't too large for you guys. Alternatively someone could sub me, but there's a lot of battles to fight and not mess up vs the AI.

[Nigel]

Don't worry, Myth. If I am not mistaken, it is my turn after yours and I won't be able to pick up the safegame before middle of next week. So if you take until Tuesday or Wednesday to upload, that won't make a difference to the timeline.

[Myth]

HRE up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10440) Nigel

[Nigel]

Darth Feather

Spain's turn:9242

[Nightbringer]

Darth Feather, if your comp. is still having problems, can you appoint a sub, otherwise I will have to skip you. :)

[Darth Feather]

Darth Feather, if your comp. is still having problems, can you appoint a sub, otherwise I will have to skip you. :)

Wow, forgot bout this, will play it tomorrow, SS doesn't work though

[Brother Sam]

Sorry dudes, I'm going to pull out. I'm still up for multiplayer games but I don't think this is for me. I can hardly remember what my faction is! :P

[Darth Feather]

Playin my turn right now

[Darth Feather]

Sorry for the delay, I forgot about this game.

Anyway Nightbringer

Byzantines up
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10441

[Nightbringer]

egypt up Mithridate

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10442

[Mithridate]

Next

[Ferret]

I take it Poland (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10443) are going to be turned back to AI control then?

[Nightbringer]

yep, looks like it, I will do it when their turn comes up.
Brother Sam, sorry to hear that, but see you around in another game hopefully.

[Ferret]

Their turn is up, I snuck the download link into my last post :clown:

[Nightbringer]

england up Myth
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10446

[Myth]

Wait I distinctly remember having already played this turn.

[Nightbringer]

really? I just checked it and it is turn 5, the current turn... :/

[Myth]

Maybe I messed something up with the save? Because I distinctly remember besieging Antwerp, and also the HRE is still sieging Metz and I think Nigel already took it, correct?

[Nigel]

Yes, I took Metz at my last turn.
The peasants rejoyced to be freed from the tyrant and are now goverened properly.

[Myth]

Nightbringer something got messed up in the save game chain, because it says turn 5 in game, yet my armies have not moved and Nigel hasn't taken Metz yet. So..

[Nightbringer]

okay, it looks like nigel accidentally uploaded last turn's save the last time he played his turn (back on the 16th), so we should be on turn 5 for spain right now, if Nigel has the save. :)

[Darth Feather]

Well, I did have the faint impression I took Corduba twice. That explains a lot.

[Nigel]

oops, sorry guys.
I must have gotten confused with my files and turn numbers. :shrug:

Gone back over them and created a new savegame for Spain from the turn after which the HRE took Metz.
This should be the right one.

9311

[Darth Feather]

Nightbringer The eastern Romans are up

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10447

I keep being surprised how week javelinmen on foot are as opposed to how strong on horseback ~;)

[Mithridate]

I keep being surprised how week javelinmen on foot are as opposed to how strong on horseback ~;)The power of equines you see^^

[Mithridate]

Nightbringer bump

[Nightbringer]

Sorry 'bout that, my internet went away for a few days, but it is fixed now and i should be able to get my turn done later tonight.

[Nightbringer]

Egypt up Mithridate!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10448

[Mithridate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obJ21k3Hylo
Growing strong

[Ferret]

Nightbringer Poland (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10449) up.

[Nightbringer]

England up Myth!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10450

[Myth]

HRE up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10451) Nigel

[Nigel]

... and on to Spain

Darth Feather

9508

[Darth Feather]

Nightbringer

Byzantines up

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10452

[Nightbringer]

Egypt up Mithridate
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10453

[Mithridate]

Sorry for being so late lads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pc4nt6rYi0We once again request an unconditional NAP with the Byzantine empire and the withdrawal of the fleet by Antioch

[Nightbringer]

I will agree to a NAP if you halt further progress into Anatolia. As to the fleet near antioch, it will withdraw slightly, but those are my waters around Cyrpus.

[Mithridate]

http://www.tuskonus.org/_FILES/201012071010_anatolia.jpg
Thats a very steep demand, especially considering the eastern parts.

We will not stop and urge you to reconsider

[Nightbringer]

The eastern parts are open season, but I request that you do not capture further settlements to the northwest of Adana. Our forces are currently in the process of occupying them, and moving your forces into the area will only breed trouble. We are quite happy to see you expand elsewhere, we simply ask this as a show of good faith on your part. It has, after all, been the islamic empire that has for so long taken hostile actions towards our Empire, and we must be cautious in our agreements.

[Mithridate]

If Caesara is considered ours, we will not go further West in the anatolia. North east we shall secure, and the NAP sign.
Agreed?

[Ferret]

England up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10454) Myth

[Nightbringer]

Agreed, we will sign a NAP on those conditions.

[Myth]

HRE up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10455) Nigel

[Nigel]

Ah, it is good that our gentlemen in the East have come to an agreement in the end.
It remains to be seen how long it will last.

Darth Feather, Spain is up.

9885

[Myth]

Nigel, I had no time to issue a message, but our agents report that a Swiss fortress in the Alps is being besieged by Milan. As the local populace is German, perhaps your Imperial Majesty can relieve them?

[Nigel]

Ah, yes, the Swiss.
A united band of brothers. Pround of their mountains and valleys and fiercly protective of their independence, their nature and their culture and their bank accounts. No wonder someone would get fed up eventually and send in the cavallery.

Still, the Kaiser is very fond of them and the Milanese have no business up there.
The matter will surely be taken care of in due time.

[Nightbringer]

Darth Feather bump

[Darth Feather]

Woops forgot it. first thing tomorrow :)
Nightbringer

Byz Up

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10456

[Nightbringer]

still on spain's turn :) Darth Feather

[Darth Feather]

still on spain's turn :) Darth Feather

Nightbringer
Sorry, I uploaded the wrong file :shame:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?catid=279#linkid10457

[Nightbringer]

thats okay Darth,
egypt up! Mithridate
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10458

[Mithridate]

Next

[Myth]

Bump Ferret

[Ferret]

Hey how come I get bumped before my regulation 48 hours are up but other players get weeks without nagging? :clown:

Should get to this tomorrow, sorry for the delay.

[Myth]

I didn't count the days, but the faster the game moves the more interesting it becomes :bow:

[Ferret]

England up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10459) Myth

I am doing spectacularly badly so far... uh I mean THE DANISH EMPIRE IS POWERFUL BEYOND COMPREHENSION AND WILL CRUSH ALL WHO OPPOSE IT.

[Myth]

Ferret need some help? Why do you think you are doing badly? I'd advise you go grab some land from Russia, Poland, Hungary.. You know, anything that is not the HRE or England.

If you need in-game financial or military aid it is always better to ask in-character as the King of Denmark.

[Ferret]

Oh no, I'm far too proud to ask for help. :clown:

It's just been a while since I played the game so I've made some noobish mistakes (such as leaving an army besieging a town, when the town's garrison was roughly the same size. Then on my next turn all I had was a fraction of the army left, routed onto my boats...)

Just means it'll take me a little longer to get the lands I want than it should have.

[Nightbringer]

Don't worry about it too much Ferret, my expansion isn't exactly at blinding speed either, long time since I've played vanilla and i keep sending armies to places that cities don't actually exist. :wall:

Besides, you should have a bit more time than the rest of us to go for the lands to the east of you since you have no direct competition for them.


Also, as retaliation for the early bump on ferret, Myth XD

[Myth]

HRE up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10460) Nigel

will write tomorrow.

[Nightbringer]

Nigel? :)

[Nigel]

Apologies for taking so long, but the preparations have kept the whole empire occupied. But now it is my pleasure to announce:


The Royal Wedding
of
Prince Henry of Staufen
and
Princess Cecilia

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=10403&d=1373656030



King Heinrich, Kaiser of the Holy Roman Empire and King William, ruler of the United Kingdom of England, Scottland, Wales and France are delighted about the marriage of their children and invite the rulers of the world to rejoice and join in the celebrations.

May their lives be long and happy.

[Nigel]

Darth Feather

10404


Sorry for double post, but I seem to be unable to attach both, a picture and a file, to the same post.

[Darth Feather]

:daisy: those portuguese are annoying.
Nightbringer Byzantines up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10461)

[Nightbringer]

The Basileus extends his congratulations to the German Emperor, and hopes he shall enjoy a son soon. The Basileus also wishes to know the German's policy towards the small republic of Venice, as his forces have been seen near their capitol.

Finally, the Basileus would like to confirm that the Sultan feels his naval borders are respected by the current position of our Cyprus fleet. With a treaty finally established we wish to make sure no offences occur.


egypt up! Mithridate
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10462

[Myth]

Ah, dear brother, but you must now also add King of Ireland to our titles.

[Ignoramus]

Hey guys,

Shocked by how long I've been absent this time. I finally have some decent time to commit to playing some games, so if you need a replacement let me know.

Ig.

[Nightbringer]

Well, if you would like to hop into CoG2 we are trying to get that going again and need players. Hop over to that thread and take a look. :)

Also, Mithridate?

[Mithridate]

Sorry, ive been very busy. Playing now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FpaeJgidAI
Life stops for nothing :laugh4: Edit: reloaded once, sorry.. bad habit... No outcome was changed, basically two units worth of scouting

[Ferret]

England up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10463) Myth

[Nightbringer]

Myth?

[Myth]

Hi guys, I was on vacation, I'll do this tonight.

[Myth]

From this day we proclaim the founding of the Empire of Britannia. It shall be ruled by the Emperor, who is also King of England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, France, and Brittany. We also lay a strong claim on the Kingdom of Aquitaine.
Nigel HRE up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10465)

Sorry for the delay guys.

[Darth Feather]

From this day we proclaim the founding of the Empire of Britannia. It shall be ruled by the Emperor, who is also King of England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland, France, and Brittany. We also lay a strong claim on the Kingdom of Aquitaine.
Nigel HRE up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10465)

Sorry for the delay guys.

As we have a pact with Emperor William, we, the king of Spain, Completely support the claim on Aquitaine. We also hope Princess Cecilia soon gives birth to a healthy boy.

[Nigel]

The Kaiser would like to thank the rulers of the world for their kind wishes on his son's marriage.

The Byzantine emissary shall tell the Basileus our regards and inform him that we value the citizens of Venice as competent craftsmen and able artisans. We admire their skill and our merchants enjoy good trade with them.

Darth Feather - Spains turn.

10504

[Nightbringer]

Darth Feather?

[Darth Feather]

Wow, I completely missed that one :shame:

I mean, I played the turn but forgot to upload.
Nightbringer

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10466

Sorry for being so absent.

[Nightbringer]

Mithridate egypt up!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10467

[Nigel]

Hi guys,

just to give you the heads up, that I will be away from the internet for a week starting this coming Saturday.
If my turn should come up during that time and you feel that it is too long to wait, you can skip me.
It is ok, if only the tax collector makes his round and the construction workers keep going.
:clown:

[Ferret]

I'm also going to be away until the 26th as of tomorrow. For some reason I decided it would be a good idea to climb Kilimanjaro...

So feel free to skip me too. I was hoping to just squeeze my turn in just before I left but it doesn't look like that's going to happen now.

[Darth Feather]

I am away starting the 15th till the 30th. Same here, just skip me for one turn.

[Nightbringer]

haha , ok guys, np :)

also Mithridate

[Myth]

I'm away for the entirety of next week. Please reset my PW and let Nigel sub England if my turn comes up.

[Nightbringer]

ok myth :)

[Mithridate]

Sorry for the lateness of late, TWC has been pretty crazy the last week and so has work :)
( said crazy being a player leaving and a lot of pointless bickering, fingerprinting and headaches )

I will play tomorrow once im back from work

[Myth]

Sounds like business as usual at the TWC.

BTW I'm going to the beach next week and hopefully will also manage to salvage my relationship with my gf.. If not then I'll have a lot more time to play hotseats :laugh4:

[Nightbringer]

Sounds like business as usual at the TWC.

BTW I'm going to the beach next week and hopefully will also manage to salvage my relationship with my gf.. If not then I'll have a lot more time to play hotseats :laugh4:

Good luck with that man! :)

[Mithridate]

Myth Nightbringer

Denmark is away? so sub/skip ;)

Well, part from me and Invicta having regularly gotten into arguments and him viewing me about as highly as the devil himself its been good and friendly :)
However, last instance was not even an argument and led to something of a fairly major dungstorm that is only now seemingly over, with him leaving.

It's an unfortunate loss for the community. Denmark up

[Nightbringer]

you're up Myth
England
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10468

[Mithridate]

Until further notice, i will not play any more turns here. Im sorry for the harm i cause by withdrawing but current events on the TWC have killed my desire to hotseat.
Should i manage to appeal the current decision made by my superiors a return is likely, if not then im fairly sure this is it for me and hotseating.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?614471-TWC-Gaming-Staff-Important-Announcement

What lead to all this ( its a lot of surely to you familiar, TWC drama )
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?414081-quot-Valhalla-quot-The-Hotseat-Community-Tavern&p=13123322&viewfull=1#post13123322
Things i where cleared from, then a third violation happened. I had a fort with only 1 unit that i could not remove due to being defeated, i needed 4.

Ive been forbidden to even defend myself, to reject any of the accusations from start to end. The " long deliberation " was literally 5 minutes and they did not even contact the admin handling it, but immediately decided when I informed my superior about the situation. Utter bull

I tell you this as much so you are aware, ( and can either approve of me continuing or refuse me regardless of my choice ) as i do to simply vent my anger over this mess.

[Nightbringer]

Well, I'm sad to see you go mithridate. Just remember that you are welcome back in this community regardless of what goes on at TWC.

[Nigel]

I just returned from vacation and I am shocked to see this, Mithridate

While I have not read all the story in detail, I can only say that I am very surprised and astonished, that such hard measures should be taken against you. From the games we have played together here, I have known you as a fair and friendly player, who is always seeking the fun (everyone's fun) more than his own victory.

You are always wellcome at the .Org, be it for Hotseats, Role Playing Games or Multiplayer events - whatever you may want to try out when the anger and frustration settles and hopefully gives way to your curiosity and interest in the games again.

[Nightbringer]

Just to be clear, I'm letting this wait for myth to be back since so many other players are absent, it seems like we might as well wait till they start returning :)

[Myth]

I'm back, I'll do this tonight.

BTW Mithridate I'm sorry that you had such drama over at the TWC. I understand that you need some time to cool off but don't let what transpired there make you quit hotseats forever. I'd rather not lose you as a part of the .org community (I hope you will keep posting in the other subforums here regardless of your deceision) and especially as a player at the TR.

When you feel up for it, come back and we'll have some more games. I'm still looking forward to game #2 of our deathmatch series!

I glanced over the thread from the TWC but I'd really appreciate a to-the-point rundown of what exactly happened in game terms. Still, such a strict ban is way over the top and I think the TWC staff got a little bit too big in the heads because of their swollen user base.

I'd ban someone from the TR only for blatant and deliberate cheating a-la "I used this here program to give myself 50,000 florins, free catapults and three screens worth of MP". What is this crap (excuse my French) about forts and units?

Over here we have three options really:

1. There is a rule about it and someone broke it for some innocent reason. Usually at most we have a replaying of the turn. Examples: attacked a defeated army on the next turn or some other such oversight.

2. There is no rule about it but it seems cheesy: we discuss it in the thread and agree what to do about it from now on in that particular HS. Example: bypassing zones of control when relieving sieges. (for that particular issue phonicsmonkey completely let it slide in the "Winter is Coming"Teutonics game even though I did it without knowing it was not in good taste to do. Afterwards we ended up crafting a new rule prohibiting it. Should I have been banned from the TR because of this? I think not!)

3. There is private suspicion of cheating: the player in question contacts the game admin/TR admin and staff/admins check PRIVATELY. Examples: reloading assassination attempts and so on.

No way in hell should someone be banned from the website/section even if they, for example, reloaded agent attempts or destroyed buildings when assaulting. A slap on the wrist, mandatory skipping of their faction, replaying the turn or at most - kicking them out of that game. And that's about as bad as you can get with cheating within the M2TW engine and game mechanics.
Nightbringer regarding my GF, as one of my freinds used to say when he passed a SP mission in Starcraft: Brood War

YOU ARE MISSION COMPLETED :laugh4:

I still have a GF.

[Myth]

Nigel good Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire we shall liberate Dijon and suggest your Highness to focus his attention on removing the Milanese occupation from Bern. Save up for the HRE. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10469)

So can we get a replacement player for Egypt? They are topping the rankings for population and have a pretty good position. Maybe Kilij Æ Varyl would do us the honour?

[Nigel]

Indeed, the Milanese have overstepped their limit and need to be shown their place.
We will act accordingly.


Darth Feather
Spains turn is up.

10645

[Darth Feather]

Back and running again
Nightbringer

Eastern Romans Up https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10470

[Nightbringer]

egypt up!
@ who wants to take over egypt?
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10471

[Nigel]

So what do we want to do?

Wait and see if Mithridate wants to return?
Actively advertise to find a new player for Egypt?
Turn Egypt over to the AI?

I am open to all, but it would be a pitty just to let the game slip and get forgotten.

[Nightbringer]

I agree. If anyone knows someone who might be interested please let them know. I myself will Askthepizzaguy.

This game is vanilla, and shouldn't take too much of your time if you are interested.

[SilverShield]

u know some espn and some college football tactics analysis and i kinda feel like having a strategy flash now so u know i was curious what the situation in this game here was like which is apparently i guess ur on hold here kinda so yea if ur okay with it im in for egypt. not a big fan of the vanilla version really but yea do think myself its just bad when a game dies like that so lets get this game rolling again. also u know normally im just checking the threads of those games im in so just tag me or send me a pm when theres stuff going on that would involve anyone whos not part of the actual game. anyways just pm me a download link to a pass free save and we r off again if u feel okay about me taking over egypt

[Myth]

The thing is this game was started as autoresolve wtich is very sucky for eastern factions in vanilla who don't get any heavy infantry. We haven't had any player vs player wars yet so if everyone agrees to it, we can make it lead battles instead. It will freshen up the game some I think as in vanilla generals and archers rule and everyone has plenty of those.

The situation is like this:

- I'm Egnland and i've blobbed pretty well in the west. I'm good allies with Nigel who is the Kaiser of the HRE, who owns central Europe. We have a human Danish player in the north, a human Spanish player in Iberia, and Nightbringer is running the ERE in the east and Is the prime threat to Egypt at the moment, though I think diplomatic tensions have been reduced somewhat as of late.

Visor gave up on Russia unfortunately, though he had a pretty good start. Maybe he'll reconsider coming back? Visorslash?
SilverShield Regarding your strategy flashes: I think you have a natural gift for strategic and tactical thinking. Something in your brain just clicks and you have an uncanny ability to analyse everything on the go and remember all the details, so you don't expose your troops to weaknesses but you exploit the weaknesses and mistakes of your enemy. If this were the 1200s you'd be one hell of a general.

[SilverShield]

u know the only thing im really interested in other than the obvious like party and girls and whatever fun there is is sports and the military. i think im really bad with numbers bad with anything craftsman other than the plain chopping of wood or destroying stuff but like repiaring a car or painting walls or whatever like gardening and stuff totaly not interested in or good at that also i got no clue of anything technical really and im totally lacking any sense of art as in music or painting or writing or sculputring or whatever so i guess there isnt anything left really other than sports and the military. not sure whether thats a good thing really but it is what it is. i think all the tries of mine to get something going outside of sports and the military didnt work out that well really but yea whatever. tho i do think all of us who play those games here on the throne room or enjoy anything strategic whether it s in sports the miltiary or whatever there is where there is a strategic element to it kinda have a certain strategic bone. tho i do hope that most of u got some other qualities as well wasnt that good for mankind really if anyone was that bad at any other department as me is. NB is on his way to a PhD so we should be fine .good thing really theres some geniuses like that dude that was behind all the Apple stuff not Jobs the other one not sure what his name was but there was a documentary that one day where they told u about all the stuff he was behind that now almost anything else tech is based on so that dude for sure is one of the most important people that has been around lately when it comes to mankind taking a step further. good thing for sure

[Mithridate]

Nightbringer Myth phonicsmonkey Nigel

Well, I was not quite sure where to post so i figured id do it here along with some other stuff ;) I apologize for waiting so long with returning to you guys despite the great times and fond memories. I was very happy to see you have a couple new guys going here, feel free to recommend them over to the TWC where i am active and hotseating again.

Now to what brought me back: A relatively new player want to start a hotseat similar to Wrath of the Khan here
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?630064-SS-6-4-Hotseat-Submod-Idea-Mongol-Apocalypse
If you could take a peek to offer suggestions, id apreciate it. I remember there being need of some balancing to make it really work.

And as requested: As to my ban
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?622229-Thus-my-ban-has-been-lifted
You can read there what happened, I tried to keep it short. it details my violations and i can respond to questions freely there, I appealed my ban and it was reduced to 1 month but i took about 2 until i returned. I still think it was all a mistake and rubbish but Poach ( head GS ) and I have talked it over properly, having no bad blood between us. Rule violations happen, i know for a fact another very prominent GS having 3 violations within a week as well right at this moment with everybody pretty much shrugging ( and telling him focus ) for example. I can answer any questions there or in pm and have permission to do so ;)

So, how are things? I'm very happy to see things did not completely die without me as they did on the TWC. :wall:

[Myth]

Things are good but my time on the .org is now split between the TR and the RII forum, though the TR will always be my home. We need more players to start more games IMO.

And I doubt I'd recommend the TWC as a HS community to anyone. That's not coming from me as .ORG staff but as a player. Who would want grief, drama, whining and consistent cheating from multuple players and thus - impossible rules Naziing from the admins? Lol, not me for sure :laugh4:

And in a game where turn order, luck and especially faction choice matter so much to player success, people treating themselves like competitive gamers and "pros" is silly to me.

[Nigel]

Mithridate, I am just glad to see that you are back :clown: