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LazyMcCrow
01-15-2013, 15:51
The Empire must fall. Our mission must succeed. By destroying their key bases, we will shatter Imperial strength and liberate our people. Yet spies have infiltrated our ranks, ready for sabotage. We must unmask them. In five nights we reshape destiny or die trying. We are the Resistance!

The Resistance is a party game of social deduction. It is designed for five to ten players, and has no player elimination. The Resistance is inspired by Mafia/Werewolf, yet it is unique in its core mechanics which increase the resources for informed decisions, intensify player interaction, and eliminate player elimination.

Players are either Resistance Operatives or Imperial Spies. For three to five rounds, they must depend on each other to carry out missions against the Empire. At the same time, they must try to deduce the other players’ identities and gain their trust. Each round begins with discussion. When ready, the Leader entrusts sets of Plans to a certain number of players (possibly including himself/herself). Everyone votes on whether or not to approve the assignment. Once an assignment passes, the chosen players secretly decide to Support or Sabotage the mission. Based on the results, the mission succeeds (Resistance win) or fails (Empire win). When a team wins three missions, they have won the game.

http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1428951_md.jpg

Basic Rules (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Resistance_(game))

BoardGameGeek Link (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/41114/the-resistance)

I'm casting this game as a 'mini-mafia' and so will accept up to 8 sign-ups, which I believe is the limit. There is no player elimination and the game will probably last a little over a week. Rest assured I shall go over the rules of play in much greater detail when we have our 8 players, (I may be including some of the expansion rules to the vanilla game - not decided yet) but please - before you sign up - bear in mind that the phases of the game may be quicker than 24 hours and you will be required to browse the thread at least once every 24 hours and to contribute each 'day'.

I've played this a couple of times but it didn't go down amazingly well with my usual gaming group, but then I don't think they'd enjoy mafia either, so I'm interested to see if this game translates to a forum as well as Mafia/Werewolves clearly does - and I'll be happy to run it again if it goes well.

SIGN UPS:
1) BSmith
2) Jarema
3) Chaotix
4) Darth Feather
5) edse
6) B Ray
7) Makrell
8) Visorslash

BSmith
01-15-2013, 16:00
I'll try this out!

Jarema
01-15-2013, 18:46
in!

Chaotix
01-15-2013, 20:21
I always love a new concept! In.

LazyMcCrow
01-17-2013, 12:01
Roll up roll up! Five more players and this can begin!

For those who need a little more information about what they're dipping their toes into: Here is a complete rule set, which I've adapted from the face to face game. If there are any questions about the rules, please feel free to post them in this thread:

THE RULES:

Each Player will be sent a Role PM. Five players will be genuine members of the resistance and the other three will be Imperial Agents who have infiltrated the group.

The Imperial Agents will be informed of each others identities, but MUST NOT COMMUNICATE OUTSIDE THE THREAD! - This is fundamental to the success of the game - ANY communication by ANY player outside the game thread will break the game - please rethink your commitment to the game if you do not feel you can obey this simple rule!.

The Resistance Team will then be informed of the missions they will be required to undertake and also who their initial Leader is.

1st Mission Team: 3 Members
2nd Mission Team: 4 Members
3rd Mission Team: 4 Members
4th Mission Team: 5 Members*
5th Mission Team: 5 Members

*This Mission requires a minimum of 2 MISSION FAILS orders for it to fail.

At this point the thread is open for discussion. All players may offer any opinions and thoughts at any time, including how they intend to vote, or why Askthepizzaguy is an imperial spy; as long as it is ONLY in the thread, or to myself via PM.

The Leader must then select the members they wish to send on the first Mission - they may choose to include themselves.

FIRST VOTING PHASE:
Once the Leader has posted their proposed Mission Team, all players are required to vote in a secret ballot. They may vote to either:

A) APPROVE the Mission Team

or

B) OPPOSE the Mission Team

Players must send their vote via PM to me within 12 hours, BUT: I shall post the results as soon as I have received a complete set. Players personal votes will be revealed. (The reason for the ballot being secret is that the voting is supposed to be simultaneous.)

If the majority have voted to APPROVE the Mission Team then the Mission goes ahead.

If the majority has voted to OPPOSE the Mission Team then Leadership passes to the next player on the List and they must propose a Mission Team.

Ties count as if the Mission Team has been OPPOSED

IMPORTANT: IF MISSION TEAM PROPOSALS ARE OPPOSED 5 TIMES IN A ROW THEN THE IMPERIAL SPIES WIN AUTOMATICALLY!!!!

Once a Mission Team has been APPROVED, we move onto the Mission Phase.

MISSION PHASE:

The players who have been selected for the Mission are required to send me - via PM - their orders.
Genuine Resistance MUST send the order: MISSION SUCCEEDS
Imperial Spies may send either: MISSION SUCCEEDS, or MISSION FAILS as their order.

Deadlines will vary for this phase, but should not exceed 24 hours. AGAIN: I shall post the results as soon as I have received a complete set of orders and done the write up, so there is an outside chance (if the correct planets are aligned) that they may be resolved within an hour or two!

If I have received any MISSION FAIL orders then the Mission automatically fails*. Players will be informed the number of SUCCESS / FAIL orders received, but not - of course - who sent them.

*The only exception to this is Mission 4, when a minimum of 2 MISSION FAIL orders are required for the Mission to fail.

If no end of game conditions have been met, then Leadership moves in turn to the next player.

END OF GAME:

The game ends when the Team either:

A) Achieves three successful Missions (Resistance Victory)

B) Fail three Missions (Imperial Victory)

or, as stated above:
C) Five Team Proposals in a row are OPPOSED (Imperial Victory)

Darth Feather
01-17-2013, 13:00
I like the concept and I am in. Just one question: why would Imperial spies ever send mission succeeds?

LazyMcCrow
01-17-2013, 13:12
I like the concept and I am in. Just one question: why would Imperial spies ever send mission succeeds?

Glad to have you aboard Darth :) In answer to your question: It is true that it is less likely an Imperial Spy will send a Succeeds order in a game with more than 7 players. In games with 7 or less the first mission only has two Team members assigned to it, so it is very difficult for either of them to get picked again if there is a FAIL order submitted: In this instance a Spy may try to blend in in order to get picked again and cause a 'busier' mission to fail.

Also - and this is the main reason for NO OUT OF THREAD COMMUNICATION! - although the Spies know the identity of their fellows - they do not know how what orders they will submit. Imagine a scenario in which two spies and only one resistance have been selected for Mission 1 - what do the Spies do? If they both sabotage the Mission then there is no chance they can both remain undercover and little chance that either of them will be selected again! I am very interested to see whether this game works in a forum format for this reason. If two spies are caught out in this way face-to-face it is very difficult to argue against the single resistance member who will be screaming for their blood

Visor
01-18-2013, 13:51
I know what this is, and have considered playing it before. If this was starting on the 30th or thereabout I would join, but can't at the moment.

Anyone who is thinking of joining, give it a shot!

edse
01-18-2013, 14:44
In since I die all the time.

LazyMcCrow
01-18-2013, 16:31
well good to have you on board edse. I guess the equivalent in this game would be to get mistrusted from the start and never picked for a mission!

Visorslash - thanks for the shout - sorry you won't be around.

So - 3 more players and we can begin :)

B-Wing
01-22-2013, 21:47
Sign me up! Mafia games have been too long and large for me to participate in lately, but I've wanted to get back in the action on this forum again. This sounds perfect.

LazyMcCrow
01-22-2013, 22:48
great! - thanks B Ray, hopefully you are the tipping point - I was worried this wouldn't get going! - but just 2 more to go and we can begin. Any more rebels out there?

Makrell
01-25-2013, 09:06
insane in the mainframe

LazyMcCrow
01-25-2013, 10:20
Great! - thanks for signing up Makrell. Just 1 more to go!

Visor
01-28-2013, 10:42
Great! - thanks for signing up Makrell. Just 1 more to go!

I'll sign up. I'll be active at least twice a day until the 31st when I will be more active.

LazyMcCrow
01-28-2013, 10:55
Great. That's our 8. I've nearly finished the initial write-up and will PM you the roles imminently.

Please ensure you've read and understood the rules - see post 5 of this thread - any questions - pop them in this thread for all to see or PM me.

Once you've all received your roles and I've received a confirmation PM in reply: The game will begin.

Thank you all for your interest - I hope we all have fun.

LazyMcCrow
01-28-2013, 16:23
‘Lazy’ McCrow’s focus snapped from the ancient British sit-com she’d been vegetating in front of - to the CCTV feed.

The first of the team had arrived at the personnel airlock.

A disc in the server rack whirred as Lazy pulled the operative’s file up onto the main screen.

Ah yes: The sharpshooter with the comms jamming and uplink enhancements.

McCrow had worked with ‘B SMITH’ just the once before - back in her days as a field operative. She had seen him pick off Imperial Guardsmen from over a mile away with the XM21 he currently carried in a small flight case. His audio bio-enhancement had also proven a valuable tactical asset on more than one mission - shutting down the outgoing communications capabilities of Guard-Nests and re-routing Imperial APCs to false locations.

https://imageshack.us/a/img805/8894/resistance01bsmith400p.png

‘B SMITH’ had 2 years of frontline experience under his belt as a fully fledged operative and the Gods only knew how long he’d been honing his craft before that. His Trial Mission had resulted in 4 Kills - Lazy scanned through the report - three had been Headshots.

https://imageshack.us/a/img820/6953/resistance01jarema400p.png

As expected: The next member of the team arrived unexpectedly. One moment ‘JAREMA’ wasn’t there - the next - she just was. It was always the way, and it unnerved Lazy almost as much as the assassin’s penchant for torturing her targets when she had time at her disposal. Fitted with a complete respiratory overhaul, ‘JAREMA’ could ‘breathe’ in extreme heat, cold and sub-aqua conditions as well as in the midst of whichever cloud of poison you might care to throw at her.

https://imageshack.us/a/img233/7441/resistance01chaotix400p.png

The next arrival at the bunker needed little introduction. ‘CHAOTIX’ was a legend of the Resistance - operating since its inception; she had refused to accept any kind of promotion and had run countless missions - always leading from the front. Lazy couldn’t help respecting the uncompromising veteran, despite the implication ‘CHAOTIX’ constantly made about Lazy’s ...we ll. ….laziness.

https://imageshack.us/a/img687/3448/resistance01dfeather400.png

https://imageshack.us/a/img577/318/resistance01edse400p.png

The next two members arrived together. Both large and intimidating and both well-used to smashing imperial skulls. ‘DARTH FEATHER’ was seven feet tall and - aside from a few dents and scratches, and some rough looking grafitti - looked identical to any other biotic Imperial General Infantryman. Re-wired by Resistance Techs, the biotic soldier behaved with no less fervour than any of his human comrades - and often with more wit and charm about him than many of his human cohorts. FIeld Operative ‘EDSE’, by comparison, was largely human - largely that is except for his reinforced rib cage, and Biotic arm - completely fitted with all attachments suited to melee combat that the Resistance could find. Both operatives were deadlier than a house falling on you. A house wielding a chainsaw.


Lazy rubbed her eyes. She was exhausted. Her metaphors were beginning to suffer, and she had a muscle tic in her left eye that was thrumming like a rabbit in a sack.

Hitting the comlink to the Resistance canteen two floors up - she barked an order for more coffee and turned back to the screen; just in time to witness the arrival of the next two operatives.

‘B RAY’ and ‘MAKRELL’ were both reasonably new hands, but had already proved their worth in the field - and then some. ‘B RAY’ was a psyker, providing disarmingly effective tech support. By simply plugging himself into any Imperial console, his abilty as a hacker (and as a world class sprinter before his initiation to the Resistance) had seen him rise swiftly through the ranks. His 6 kills in the trial mission had been matched only by ‘CHAOTIX’ who had surprisingly indulged the rookie with a raised eyebrow and a nod.

https://imageshack.us/a/img802/9572/resistance01bray400p.png

‘MAKRELL’ was an outstanding support agent with the makings of a fine field medic. His ability to artificially ‘gland’ himself with a variety of helpful hormonal concoctions allowed him to operate under more stress and trauma than any of his human comrades. The junior member of the team seemed to get no joy from his job though. His commitment to the resistance was fuelled by a desire to avenge his family - all victims of the Empires iron-fist rule over its subjects.

https://imageshack.us/a/img571/488/resistance01makrell400p.png

A story all too familiar to Lazy herself.

Lazy checked the files. That made seven. She was waiting on the final member of the team. The demolitions expert. ‘Late as usual’ Lazy grimaced - partly at the tardiness of arguably the most vital member of the team - and partly at the chaos the loki-ish character always trailed behind him. That was the trouble with 'VISORSLASH' You never knew whether he was just joking with you.. or if he was actually mad.

Sign-Ups are complete. I shall post the roles imminently via PM. YOU ARE REQUIRED TO RESPOND TO CONFIRM YOUR PARTICIPATION.

Once I have a complete set of confirmations, the game will begin

Beskar
01-28-2013, 16:34
[You can have me as a reserve if required.]

LazyMcCrow
01-29-2013, 00:38
[You can have me as a reserve if required.]
Thanks Tiaexz, You're first on the list. I'm just waiting on 2 confirmations and we're off. I'm sure that will happen in the next 12 hours or so. Thanks to all for your prompt replies.

LazyMcCrow
01-29-2013, 11:00
Thirty miles below the surface, the seven members of the Resistance sat pensively in the operations bunker - glancing at one another around the planning table.

Some of the field agents had worked together previously, and after some clipped small talk; discussion about the absent eighth member of the team ensued: Before a stern comment from CHAOTIX brought the group to an attentive silence.

Finally the distant squeak of the elevator, which had delivered them deep down from the airlock on the surface, caught their attention and as the industrial doors rolled back - all eyes strained across the bunker to identify the last team member.

A shambolic figure lurched from the elevator and stumbled a little as he took a lengthy pull on a bottle. There were a few exhalations and mutterings from the more experienced operatives, and a few quizzical glances exchanged between some of the new blood.

As the figure lurched his way toward the table, CHAOTIX shook her head.

‘There goes the neighbourhood’ she muttered, as the demolitions expert - codename: VISORSLASH greeted his teammates with a mock salute.

https://imageshack.us/a/img69/4241/resistance01visorslash4.png

Back up in her control room, McCrow started as several red lights suddenly began flashing and a small alarm hijacked her headphones and over-rode her audio book: The works of Joe Abercrombie read by Tom Waites.

‘INCOMING TRANSMISSION!’ strobed her monitor, and Lazy frowned as she identified the data was encoded to the highest security level.

Once the message had been de-crypted, Lazy’s eyes widened and her jaw dropped as she read the orders from high-command.

As Visorslash slumped into the empty chair in the Operations Bunker two floors below, a siren began to clamour and the phrase ‘YOU ARE UNDER SECURITY LOCKDOWN’ blared from the speakers, leaving the Team in no doubt as to why the reinforced blast doors were rolling down over each of the exits.

‘Hmmm s’true - I ushually have thish affect’, slurred VISORSLASH, as he leered across the table at CHAOTIX, who sneered in return.

‘Somethings never change’ mused the veteran, cracking her knuckles.

Presently the alarms were silenced and a nervous cough sounded over the tannoy.

‘Ahem... Alpha Team - Welcome to the Resistance HQ! I am your Mission Supervisor, Agent McCrow and I am the unfortunate schmuck tasked with salvaging this cluster***k of an Operation.’

The two rookies, ‘B_RAY’ & ‘MAKRELL’ exchanged mildly worried glances while ‘VISORSLASH’ swung his feet up onto the table and pulled a footlong sub from one of the expansive pockets of his great coat and began tucking into it like a ravenous hound.

Lazy McCrow continued:

‘First of all - and by way of an explanation to the current security alert; I must share some rather shocking news with you all.

It has come to the attention of High Command - rather catastrophically late in the day I’m afraid - that while five of you are exactly as you appear, it seems that three of you are not members of our Resistance at all.’

Lazy paused as the implications sunk in.

‘No ladies and gentlemen - this is not an alarm test: I have it on the highest authority, that three of you are...ahem … Imperial spies’.

The tense atmosphere in the room congealed further. While no hands actually reached for weapons, it was clear that it would take but one sudden movement from any of the ‘Team’ - and all hell would break loose.

‘However...’ McCrow continued ‘ What has not been established is which of you are loyal to our cause and which of you are the traitors, so I’d appreciate it if no-one started anything stupid. As soon a move is made by ANY of you, I state plainly that ALL of you will be immediately destroyed.’

Several of the soldiers around the table snarled. Whether genuine Resistance or Imperial Spy - The news was not going down well.

‘It has been made clear to me by High Command that all of our necks are on the line if anything kicks off down here, and I know for a fact that they will not hesitate to nuke us at the drop of a hat.... so, It is in all of our best interests at this moment, that none of us kill anyone else...

AM I clear? ’

A few muttered agreements were heard, but the peace established felt by no means easy.

Satisfied that ‘EDSE’ wasn’t going to fire up the chain-saws on his forearm, McCrow continued to elaborate on the plot High Command had hatched. It didn’t feel like much of a plan.

‘The eight of you have been selected to complete these final Missions, which will allow us to take control of the Imperial Orbital Base, circling the planet Orrrgh. I am informing you now that NOTHING HAS CHANGED! Our Missions will go ahead.

If the Resistance is to stand any chance of turning the tide against the Empire - that Orbital Base must be captured and held.’

There was a pause and a crackling over the speaker system, as McCrow lit one of her foul-smelling cigars.

‘So - a word from our rather demanding superiors, and myself must now follow: To the three of you Imperial scum who have been tasked with sabotaging our efforts - I can only say ‘May you burn in hell you ****-****ing *******s.

When we catch you - and we WILL catch you: I’ll make you pay in pain and blood for anything you EVEN THINK you can do to endanger the success of these Missions.

None of you is above suspicion, but it is going to be up to those of us with genuine loyalty to the cause; to get these Missions underway and to bust open that Base regardless of the three Empire scum amongst us.

For those of you around the table who are truly loyal - I am sorry that it has come to this. There is no time to tarry. We must begin at 04:00 hrs, with the de-activation of the Orbital Bases’ shield generators. Take a break. Stow your kit - you will not be leaving this room except for when you are selected to undertake one of our vital strikes against the Empire, and for our freedom.

BSMITH - High command has selected you as the first ‘Leader’. It is your job to make a proposal for our first Mission Team. You will need to select three Agents to undertake the sabotage of the Shield Generators. Pick who you want, Pick who your buddy wants - however you do it, make sure you listen to the advice being given - maybe one of the scum will give themselves away in this very room. Pick yourself if you want, but whatever you do: Pick well - the future of everyone in this System hangs in the balance.

*****************************


ORDER OF PLAY

The first ‘Leader’ will be BSmith. BSmith will propose three members (possibly including himself) to attempt the First Mission. Once the proposal is posted in the thread you are ALL required to send me a PM either APPROVING or OPPOSING the Mission Team proposal.

Once I have a complete set of votes, I shall post the results in the thread - including how each player voted. A clear majority of APPROVAL votes means the proposal succeeds. Ties are counted as OPPOSED.

If BSmith’s proposal succeeds, Mission 1 will begin.

If BSmith’s proposal is opposed then ‘Leadership’ passes to the next player in Turn Order:

1) BSmith
2) Jarema
3) Chaotix
4) Darth Feather
5) edse
6) B Ray
7) Makrell
8) Visorslash

If five Mission Team proposals in a row are OPPOSED the Imperial Spies win automatically!

Once The First Mission has begun, the selected Team Members must send me orders via PM. Loyal Resistance members MUST send ‘MISSION SUCCEEDS’ orders. Imperial Spies may send either ‘MISSION SUCCEEDS’ or ‘MISSION FAILS’ orders.

Once I have a complete set of orders I shall post a write-up of the outcome - checking to see if either of the win conditions have been met - and if not - we shall proceed to the next Mission with a new ‘Leader’

A reminder of the Mission List:

THE MISSIONS:
1st Mission Team: 3 Members
2nd Mission Team: 4 Members
3rd Mission Team: 4 Members
4th Mission Team: 5 Members*
5th Mission Team: 5 Members

*This Mission requires a minimum of 2 MISSION FAILS orders for it to fail.

Anything not clear? Post questions in thread or PM me.

You may now begin open discussion in this thread, about who you think should/shouldn't be included in the first mission. Role Play is encouraged but in no way compulsory. GL&HF :bow:

Jarema
01-29-2013, 12:25
well well well

I suggest girls should stay at home during first mission.

or quite contrary - sent me, so you will know you can trust me when I will be the leader

BSmith
01-29-2013, 15:11
I am going to give everybody a few hours to say why you should or should not be on this first mission. :stare:

edse
01-29-2013, 15:23
I suggest you chose Jarema, Chaotix and Darth Feather as they are the ones that will lead the following missions and we need as much intel on them as possible.

Jarema
01-29-2013, 16:39
I suggest you chose Jarema, Chaotix and Darth Feather as they are the ones that will lead the following missions and we need as much intel on them as possible.

that

Darth Feather
01-29-2013, 17:10
I AM A BIOTIC SUPORT UNIT. MY PROGRAMMING DOES NOT ALLOW BETRAYAL. I SHOULD BE ON THE FIRST MISSION.

Makrell
01-29-2013, 17:48
i am not certain who should be on the mission, but i will saty this

i am the greatest support medic ever and i am even enhanced with neutral pharmacology.

Also edse makes sense

edse
01-29-2013, 17:52
Also edse makes sense

There's a first time for everything.

BSmith
01-29-2013, 18:24
I’ll go with edse’s reasoning. Proposed members for the first mission:

Jarema
Chaotix
Darth Feather

Jarema
01-29-2013, 19:48
I've sent my approval

LazyMcCrow
01-29-2013, 21:28
Thanks to those of you who have already supplied your votes of APPROVAL/OPPOSITION to BSMITH's proposal.

Please feel free to submit votes as soon as the Leader posts their proposal - there is no need to wait for me to post anything official. These phases of the game will take longer than I'd like them to, but that's just one of the side-effects of playing games with people from all the way around the globe! When you think about it - it's amazing how quickly it happens really :D. I'm waiting on a few more vote PMs and I'll post as soon as I've got them all and I'm awake. It may not actually be for another twelve hours or so.

:bow:

Darth Feather
01-29-2013, 21:41
THE RESISTANCE MUST SUCCEED. CHANCES OF SUCCES ARE 97.66666 PERCENT. THERE IS A MARGIN OF ERROR OF ONE PERCENT. WE WILL DESTROY THE EMPIRE !

B-Wing
01-30-2013, 04:25
Well, not to brag, but I don't think there's anyone here more capable of disabling a shield generator than myself. Except perhaps for our demolition expert. When he's sober. So I guess that does make me the most qualified. But edse's point is well made. I approve the proposal.

Visor
01-30-2013, 04:44
Shent muy disssapoval

Chaotix
01-30-2013, 05:19
I'm approving this team.

After all, I suspect you will be needing me to get anything done at all.

LazyMcCrow
01-30-2013, 08:29
There was a little posturing - that was to be expected thought McCrow, given the heightened danger and twisted element of surprise her charges now faced, but Lazy was unsurprised to see BSMITH's Mission Team selection had been unanimously APPROVED

The Assassin, the Veteran and the Hacked Support Droid were briefed, kitted up and returned under armed guard up to the hangar bay which nestled just below the planets surface. An unassuming shuttle had been commandeered to transport the Mission Team to the small forest moon which housed the Shield Generator.

Lazy crossed her fingers and gritted her teeth as the shuttle spiraled away from Resistance HQ and wondered how the hell she was going to sleep until she had found out the Missions outcome.

Mission one is GO!

Jarema, Chaotix & Darth Feather must PM their Mission Orders to me at their earliest convenience

:bow:
Lay

Makrell
01-30-2013, 19:06
how long are these ophases supose to go? What if someone is gone for more than 24 hours during a mission phase? wil the mission fail or succeed

LazyMcCrow
01-30-2013, 23:23
how long are these ophases supose to go? What if someone is gone for more than 24 hours during a mission phase? wil the mission fail or succeed

Good question. I'm still waiting for a complete set. I'm hoping that we won't have to wait too long, but some patience will probably be required :bow:

EDIT: 24 hours gone and I have sent a reminder to the remaining player with orders outstanding.

LazyMcCrow
01-31-2013, 16:36
Still waiting on the complete set. I don't see there is much I can do right now. I am loathe to look for replacements before the game has even got underway, but I'll reconsider if I'm still waiting in 12 hours. Thanks for your patience.

BSmith
01-31-2013, 17:29
And all three posted in thread after they were nominated.... I assume you have poked them with a PM?

LazyMcCrow
01-31-2013, 19:10
And all three posted in thread after they were nominated.... I assume you have poked them with a PM?

Yes indeed. I sent a PM this morning GMT.

LazyMcCrow
02-01-2013, 09:20
Final orders hit my inbox ...finally. Write up to follow. I shall also re-issue a reminder concerning the timing of phases etc. - that will be dull, but I hope everyone will pay attention to it :bow:

LazyMcCrow
02-01-2013, 10:32
MISSION ONE OUTCOME:

JAREMA sat alone in a de-briefing pen. McCrow’s voice over the speaker system quizzed the assassin about the initial stages of the Mission. Both CHAOTIX and DARTH FEATHER, she assumed would be held in similar circumstances. All remaining members of the Team were no doubt watching on monitors.

‘The landing went to plan’ JAREMA continued. ‘The site was a little further off than our intel suggested, but we made good progress and came within striking distance ahead of schedule’

Sitting in her de-briefing pen CHAOTIX was indeed being quizzed similarly:

‘JAREMA scouted the perimeter and I moved in - while FEATHER covered the approach. Two Imperial Guards and one Biotic on the Door. I disabled both humans with bayonet and sidearm. By the time the Biotic had hit the deck, JAREMA had taken out the Security cameras and FEATHER had moved up to the Bunker door - ready to tap in to the mainframe and over-ride the blast doors.’

The Biotic support droid could have easily uploaded the relevant data to Lazy’s machine and the Resistance Portal, but the Mission supervisor allowed it to be interrogated in the same manner as the rest. The line between a Biotic mind and that of a human was so blurred that many beings of both types made no distinction between the two.

The Droid was never going to be the best company that Lazy had kept, but she felt the droid was certainly not the worst of the bunch either.

‘I PROCEEDED TO OVER-RIDE THE SECURITY SYSTEM AND THE TEAM PROMPTLY ACCESSED THE ENTRANCE TUNNEL. JAREMA AND CHAOTIX BOTH DISPATCHED SIX MORE IMPERIAL GUARDS - MORE THAN WE HAD ANTICIPATED IN THE ENTRANCE HALLWAY. HOWEVER AN AUTOMATIC SENTRY TURRET WAS IDENTIFIED JUST AS IT BEGAN TO FIRE ON OUR POSITION. AS IF REACTING TO A SIGNAL: A SQUADRON OF SMALL FURRY BEASTS, ARMED WITH SPEARS AND LIGHT IMPERIAL BLASTERS MOVED TO ATTACK OUR REAR FROM THE OPEN BUNKER BLAST DOORS. IT WAS AT THIS POINT THE TEAM BECAME SUSPICIOUS THAT WE HAD ENTERED A TRAP. IT CERTAINLY APPEARED THAT THE EMPIRE WAS ALERTED TO OUR MISSION BEFORE OUR ARRIVAL.’

‘We were set up’ JAREMA continued. ‘I don’t know how many of those cute little furry maniacs I had to dispatch but I cut my way through them like I was spreading bread.

I began my retreat as soon as CHAOTIX had begun using frag grenades on the platoon of Imperial Guards. They’d started to advance under cover of the Turret and it was nothing but a death trap if we’d chosen to stay.

CHAOTIX removed her beret and ran her hand across her bristle-cut scalp.

‘There’s no doubt they knew we were coming. We were lucky to get out of there: What with the psychotic teddy bears shooting at us from the woods and the Empire spewing blaster fire from the Bunker. I think they must have dosed those little furry freaks up on some of their rage drugs, cuz they were vicious as wolverines. I had to literally tear the arm off of one that had taken a grip on DARTH FEATHERS back plate.

Lazy flipped the audio low and activated the tannoy to address the five of the Team in the Operations room as well as the three in their holding pens.

‘ So it seems that one of the selected Mission Team activated an alarm system once they had exited the transport.’

Lazy rubbed her eyes.

‘The Mission to break down those Shield Generators has failed and that’s one score to the Empire. All I can say is that we’re going to have to do better and that at least we know that there is at least one traitor amongst the first Mission Team. Hopefully that can help us make a more informed choice, but I guess right now we're all still in the dark.’

‘Here’s a reminder of the numbers required for each of the subsequent Missions:

1st Mission Team: 3 Members FAILED (2 success, 1 Failure order)
2nd Mission Team: 4 Members
3rd Mission Team: 4 Members
4th Mission Team: 5 Members*
5th Mission Team: 5 Members

*This Mission requires a minimum of 2 MISSION FAILS orders for it to fail.

‘When JAREMA returns to the Operations hall, she will take the post of Leader.
We’re still going to need to take down the Generator, but we can’t risk another snafu on the forest moon. Mission Two will entail the more direct approach of taking down the heavily guarded satellite responsible for transferring the Shield’s power. We have four fighters at our disposal - so JAREMA, when you are ready and when everyone has had their say - I need the names of our four pilots for Mission Two.

*************
NOTE: Please be aware that I shall process phases as soon as I have a complete set of votes or orders. If you are one of the proposed Mission Team, there's nothing to stop you sending your orders (SUCCEED / FAIL) along with your APPROVAL/OPPOSITION vote. Any questions PM me. Hopefully we can pick up the pace a little, but weekends are my least active time so don't expect miracles :) Good luck with Mission 2 :bow:

Darth Feather
02-01-2013, 10:57
PROBABILITIES OF ONE IMPERIAL SPY BEING ON LAST TEAM 99.999999996 PERCENT. AS MY PROGRAMMING FORBIDS BETRAYAL, THE NEXT LEADER HAS A CHANCE OF 50 PERCENT OF BEING AN IMPERIAL SPY. WHO WAS THE LAST TO ANSWER LAZYMCCROW'S CALL? AFTER THIS QUESTION, PERMISSION ASKED TO POWER DOWN TO CONSERVE ENERGY {Y(ES)/N(O)}.

LazyMcCrow
02-01-2013, 10:59
PROBABILITIES OF ONE IMPERIAL SPY BEING ON LAST TEAM 99.999999996 PERCENT. AS MY PROGRAMMING FORBIDS BETRAYAL, THE NEXT LEADER HAS A CHANCE OF 50 PERCENT OF BEING AN IMPERIAL SPY. WHO WAS THE LAST TO ANSWER LAZYMCCROW'S CALL? AFTER THIS QUESTION, PERMISSION ASKED TO POWER DOWN TO CONSERVE ENERGY {Y(ES)/N(O)}.

Feel free to plug yourself in at the socket by the uhhhh... yep - over by the vending machine.

Makrell
02-01-2013, 11:08
Well, then atleast one and maybe all 3(unlikely) of the team members are spies. I dont knwo the best tactic to flush out which one though this early in game.

edse
02-01-2013, 11:37
1) BSmith
2) Jarema
3) Chaotix
4) Darth Feather

5) edse
6) B Ray
7) Makrell
8) Visorslash

The last 4 perhaps?

We know that at least one of Jarema, Chaotix and Darth Feather is a spy (and that BSmith chose (on my suggestion) this team and that everyone approved it)

Edit: Actually, we need to focus on getting successful missions instead of finding the spies. I fear this is a bit unbalanced. Maybe the second mission of four should need two failed order as well?

Jarema
02-01-2013, 14:08
I do not think your idea is bad. I will probably suggest something like that. Now, I am waiting for your proposals

Visor
02-01-2013, 14:20
SIR MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION SIR!

I HAVE A PROPOSAL SIR.

MYSELF, JARREMA, BSMITH AND THE FISH WILL PROCEED TO :daisy: THE ENEMY UP.

THAT IS ALL.

Visor
02-01-2013, 14:23
ACTUALLY, NO BSMITH. WE WILL DO THIS WITH BRAY.

I HAVE AN IDEA OF WHO THE SPIES ARE, BUT I NEED MORE MISSIONS. AND ALCOHOL.

SIR, FOLLOW MY GODDAMN PLAN YOU LILY LIVERED MAGGOT, OR I WILL BLOW YOU UP INTO SO MANY CHUNKS YOUR FAMILY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RECOGNISE YOU. NOT THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO, YOU ROACH:daisy:ING SON OF A :daisy:

Jarema
02-01-2013, 14:53
Visor, I can see reason behind Edse's suggestion. But I do not know what reason is behind yours

Visor
02-01-2013, 15:01
Visor, I can see reason behind Edse's suggestion. But I do not know what reason is behind yours

THE REASON IS WE GAIN ALMOST NO USEABLE INFORMATION. YOU UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE DO THE BOTTOM 4 IT WILL MOST LIKELY FAIL? TELL ME THE ODDS THAT AT LEAST ON IMPERIAL DOG IS AMONGST THAT GROUP IS NOT NEAR 100% AND I WILL LAUGH.

WHAT DO WE LEARN IF WE FOLLOW EDSE? NOTHING. ALL WE WILL LEARN IS A FAILURE AND HOW MANY, NO DOUBT ONE OR TWO, WHICH DOESN'T CLEAR ANY PLAYERS. WHEREAS WE CAN TAKE A SECOND LOOK AT SOME PLAYERS USING YOU, WHO SEEM LIKE A GOOD REBEL, MYSELF, THE GREATEST DEMOLITION GUY ALIVE, B_RAY WHO I'M LEANING SPY, AND THE FISH WHO I'M NOT SURE ABOUT. COULD REPLACE BSMITH WITH FISH POSSIBLY. I DON'T FEEL TOO STRONGLY TOWARDS BSMITH BEING EITHER SIDE, BUT I FEEL HE IS POSSIBLY REBEL.

PICK MYSELF AND YOURSELF AT THE VERY LEAST. BUT DON'T TAKE THIS 'EDSE' CHARACTER. HE IS SURELY A SPY.

BSMITH IS A GOOD CHOICE I SUPPOSE, AND POSSIBLY THE FISH AS WELL.

B-Wing
02-01-2013, 16:34
It's reassuring to know that Visorslash has located his "inside voice". I, for one, don't think he's capable of pulling off the kind of subterfuge we've witnessed, and for that reason I would be happy to go on this mission with him.

My initial thoughts were that this second team should be composed entirely of members who did not participate in the first mission, but I realize now that the only way that would prove helpful is if the mission was a success. And the probability of that seems rather low. How about 2 members from the previous team and 2 new people? I'll volunteer myself, and Visorslash has already volunteered. I don't have any strong feeling about which of the previous team members should come, but I don't particularly trust robots.

Darth Feather
02-01-2013, 16:44
WHY DO YOU NOT THRUST MECHANICAL ANDROIDS? THAT IS COMPLETELY IRRATIONAL. STILL, MY PROCESSORS SAY I SHOULD BE ON THIS MISSION AS I AM THE ONLY ONE WHO CANNOT BETRAY THE RESISTANCE, BECAUSE OF MY PROGRAMMING. IF I DO NOT GO ON THIS MISSION AND WE SEND THE TWO OTHERS FROM THE PREVIOUS TEAM, THERE IS 100 PERCENT CHANCE OF A SPY BEING ON THE TEAM TAKING THERE WAS ONE ON THE FIRST TEAM. WE SHOULD ONLY TAKE ONE MEMBER FROM THE LAST MISSION. BEST WOULD BE CHAOTIX IF I AM NOT CHOSEN BECAUSE IF JAREMA IS SCUM HE WILL PUT ANOTHER SPY ON THIS TEAM. UPDATE OF SYSTEMS HAS BEEN EXECUTED. HEAT SIGNATURE REDUCED BY 17 PERCENT.

OOC: Seriously, two people on the team would reduce the chances especially since Jarema is making the team

edse
02-01-2013, 16:53
Two from the first team ( Jarema should pick himself) + BSmith + one of the remaining four.

Darth Feather
02-01-2013, 17:09
CHANCES WOULD BE THREE OUT OF FOUR THERE IS A SPY ON THAT TEAM. IF WE PICK ONE FROM THE FIRST TEAM, TOGETHER WITH JAREMA, AND TWO FROM THE REMAINDER OF THE TROOPS, THE CHANCES WOULD BE BETTER. IF JAREMA WOULD BE A SPY, THERE IS A SMALL CHANCE OF SUCCES ANYWAY. HE WOULD PICK A SPY FROM THE REMAINING FOUR IF HE WERE NOT ON THE TEAM. HE SHOULD GO ANYWAY. AWAITING ANSWER.

edse
02-01-2013, 17:36
CHANCES WOULD BE THREE OUT OF FOUR THERE IS A SPY ON THAT TEAM.

Lets calculate. To make it simpler we assume that there were only one spy in the first team.

Pick the last four: 100% at least one spy
Pick one from first team: (2/3)(1/(5 choose 3))=6,7% for no spy
Pick two from first team: (1/(3 choose 2))((3 choose 2)/(5 choose 2)= 10% for no spy

Disclaimer: I might have done horrible things...

From Jarema's point of view the chances are 10% and 15% of picking spy free teams when choosing himself as one from the first team.

Jarema
02-01-2013, 18:35
My officiall proposal:

Jarema
Chaotix
BSmith
Makrell

feel free to vote on it

Darth Feather
02-01-2013, 18:38
ERROR. LAST UPDATE CONTAINED CORRUPTED FILES. RELOADING LAST BACKUP. LOADING....... MATHEMATICS DEPARTEMENT IS BEING REINSTALLED. LAST UPDATE DELETED. HEAT SIGNATURE BACK UP TO 100 PERCENT

LazyMcCrow
02-01-2013, 18:38
Mission 2 proposal is made. Please send me your votes. If you are one of the four selected you may also wish to supply me with your orders for the Mission should it successfully be approved. :bow:

Darth Feather
02-01-2013, 18:39
NEGATIVE ON MISSION TEAM. I SHOULD BE THERE INSTEAD OF BSMITH. THERE IS A SPY ON THE TEAM.

BSmith
02-01-2013, 18:57
If you are there instead of me, then we are guaranteed to have a spy on the mission, as all three members that were on the first failed mission would be on this one as well...

I might suggest swapping chaotix and Darth_Feather. chaotix's silence on things is deafening.

Darth Feather
02-01-2013, 19:57
THAT IS CORRECT, I WOULD REPLACE CHAOTIX BY ME.

Jarema
02-01-2013, 20:22
If you are there instead of me, then we are guaranteed to have a spy on the mission, as all three members that were on the first failed mission would be on this one as well...

I might suggest swapping chaotix and Darth_Feather. chaotix's silence on things is deafening.

I already made my proposal.
If I understand rules correct, I cannot change it now.
You can either accept it or throw it away and the next person will make new one - we have time to do that

BSmith
02-01-2013, 20:23
I would prefer it the other way, but I am OK with it the way it is.

Approved.

LazyMcCrow
02-01-2013, 21:41
I would prefer it the other way, but I am OK with it the way it is.

Approved.

If you haven't already - please PM me your vote. You can say what you want in the thread, but the vote is meant to be secret until the total is revealed. If I haven't received a PM = you haven't actually voted :bow:

Makrell
02-02-2013, 00:25
approved, cause i like math that seems all the way correct

Chaotix
02-02-2013, 03:37
Considering the last mission failed and Jarema was on the last mission, there's a one in three chance that Jarema is just trying to set us up with another failure.

I don't think including anybody from the last mission is a particularly good idea. We need to find a team that works and just stick with it... there are five true resistance members and three infiltrators, right? If we can pinpoint the traitors and exclude them, we have essentially won the game. The problem is we have to do it within two rounds.

EDIT: Actually more than a one in three chance, since it's possible more than one person on the last team was a spy. I find that unlikely, though.

B-Wing
02-02-2013, 04:51
I disapproved of this proposed team, but now I actually somewhat regret my initial reaction. If the next leader (assuming Jarema gets voted down) wants to suggest it again, I'll approve.

Darth Feather
02-02-2013, 10:24
I don't think including anybody from the last mission is a particularly good idea.

NEGATIVE. CONSIDERING THERE WAS ONE SPY ON THIS MISSION, NEXT MISSION WOULD JUST FAIL BY TWO FAILLURES, GIVING US NO INFORMATION ABOUT THE THREE SPIES UNLESS WHAT WE ALREADY SAFELY CAN ASSUME. THERE%IS%A%SLIGHT%POSSIBILITY%THERE%ARE%WERE%THAN%ONE%SPY%ON%THIS%MISSION. ANTIVIRUS SOFTWARE DISCOVERED VIRUS. DELETING VIRUS. REINSTATING AI. SHOULD THERE BE MORE THAN ONE SPY WE WOULD KNOW DUE TO THE NUMBER OF FAILLURES. SO IN MY OPINION WE SHOULD GO WITH PEOPLE FROM THE LAST TEAM. I STILL DISAPPROVE OF THE TEAM, BECAUSE THERE IS 100 PERCENT CHANCE OF A SPY BEING ON THE TEAM BECAUSE I CANNOT BETRAY THE RESISTANCE AND I AM NOT ON THE TEAM. THAT WILL BE ALL.

Visor
02-02-2013, 11:12
Edse-Chaotix scum.

LazyMcCrow
02-02-2013, 11:24
MISSION TWO - Leader = JAREMA

MISSION TEAM:
JAREMA, CHAOTIX, BSMITH & MAKRELL

OPPOSE - 3
Visorslash
D Feather
BRay

APPROVE - 4 (+Jarema)
edse
BSmith
Makrell
Chaotix

The Team is narrowly approved. If you are on the Team Please PM me your Mission Orders - get suited and booted and up to the hangar to prep the fighters.

edse
02-02-2013, 11:30
Shall we bet on the outcome? Successful mission is hundred times the wager.

Darth Feather
02-02-2013, 12:39
BETTING IS FUTILE. THERE IS A SPY ON THE MISSION. THE MISSION IS VERY UNLIKELY TO SUCCEED.

LazyMcCrow
02-02-2013, 23:00
I have a complete set of orders. But I am afraid I cannot do the write-up until tomorrow. Thankyou for your patience

LazyMcCrow
02-03-2013, 10:53
All four members of the mission Team hung, suspended in the large liquid-filled cylinders, reserved for only the most serious patients of the med-bay. The de-briefing would have to wait, until all were fully conscious and their skin had grown back. At least one of them would be fitted with new hands after the crash landings on Orgahhs surface.

Lazy was beginning to panic. The Empire were just a whisker from victory and the Resistance was still yet to achieve any form of success! - From here on in, every Mission was Match Point.

1st Mission Team: 3 Members FAILED (2 success, 1 Failure order) (Jarema, Chaotix, Darth Feather)
2nd Mission Team: 4 Members FAILED (2 success, 2 Failure order) (Jarema, Chaotix, BSmith, Makrell)
3rd Mission Team: 4 Members
4th Mission Team: 5 Members*
5th Mission Team: 5 Members

*This Mission requires a minimum of 2 MISSION FAILS orders for it to fail.

The Leader for Mission Three is Chaotix.

Makrell
02-03-2013, 12:40
ok, Darth Feather is most likely safe i think. Either Jarema or Chaotix nearly must be evil imperials. Bsmith might be evil, as can i.

I vote next mission team as

Dart Feather, edse, bRay and visorslash, as those are most probable to not be resistance.
or i could be destroyed by some kind of math pretty soon :P

Darth Feather
02-03-2013, 12:56
NEGATIVE. IF WE WOULD TAKE THAT TEAM THERE WOULD BE ONE SPY ON IT ASSUMING THERE WERE TWO ON LAST TEAM.

Darth Feather
02-03-2013, 12:57
I THINK JAREMA IS INNOCENT. WHY WOULD HE SEND A SECOND SPY ON THE MISSION IF HE WERE THE SPY. THAT WOULD BE COMPLETELY IRRATIONAL.

Visor
02-03-2013, 13:39
1) BSmith
2) Jarema
3) Chaotix
4) Darth Feather
5) edse
6) B Ray
7) Makrell
8) Visorslash


1st Mission Team: 3 Members FAILED (2 success, 1 Failure order) (Jarema, Chaotix, Darth Feather)
2nd Mission Team: 4 Members FAILED (2 success, 2 Failure order) (Jarema, Chaotix, BSmith, Makrell)

Who has not yet been in a mission? Visor, BRay, Edse.

Scumbags are: Edse, Chaotix, Makrell.
Town are Visor, BSmith, Jarrema, BRay, Darth Feather. Possibly.

Visor-Darth-JArrema are clearly town.

Bsmith would be the other one I would send on the mission.

ANy other team I would decline, and I urge the loyal members of the resistance to do the same!

Darth Feather
02-03-2013, 14:04
AFFIRMATIVE: VISORSLASH, B_RAY AND DARTH FEATHER DISSAPROVED OF LAST MISSION, WHILE EDSE APPROVED. IF MY MEMORY HAS NOT BEEN CORRUPTED, FOUR PEOPLE SHOULD GO ON NEXT MISSION. I PROPOSE VISORSLASH, JAREMA, DARTH FEATHER AND B_RAY. AND I POINT MY MECHANICAL ARM OF MASS-DESTRUCTION TOWARDS CHAOTIX

edse
02-03-2013, 15:53
BSmith, Jarema, Darth Feather, Visorslash is fine to me. I would however rather see myself instead of BSmith but it would be contra-productive since it would be opposed.

Darth Feather
02-03-2013, 16:49
NEGTIVE. B_RAY DID NOT APPROVE OF THE MISSION. WHY WOULD HE DO THAT IF HE WERE A SPY? YOU DID APPROVE, SO YOU ARE MORE SUSPICIOUS THAN HE. IF WE TAKE B-SMITH CHANCES WOULD BE TOO HIGH TO HAVE A SPY (PROVIDING MY REASONING IS CORRECT EITHER BSMITH OR MAKRELL WOULD BE A SPY)

OOC: It is a big guess of me but if the resistance fails one more mission we are defeated so fingers crossed.

Darth Feather
02-03-2013, 18:52
MY PROCESSORS GIVE ME THE INFO THAT THE THIRD SPY (TAKEN EDSE AND CHAOTIX ARE SPIES) IS BSMITH. HE WAS THE ONE WHO PROPOSED REPLACING CHAOTIX BY ME. IF HE IS A SPY, HE COULD EASILY BLAME THE FAILLURE ON ME OR JAREMA. THAT AND THE FACT EDSE WANTED BSMITH TO GO ON MISSION 3.

B-Wing
02-03-2013, 19:18
While I mostly agree with Bomberman & Bender's line of reasoning, I think we may be exonerating Jarema too hastily. However, I would approve of her, Visorslash, Darth Feather, and myself forming this upcoming (and possibly final) mission team. It's a dice roll at this point no matter how you look at it, and if we're playing the odds, I think that's our best shot.

Chaotix
02-03-2013, 20:24
I didn't approve the last mission either.

It's clear Jarema is the scum here, and trying to pass it off as me being the scum. Either BSmith or Makrell is scum number 2, and I predict Visorslash is the third, since he's trying so hard to make me look like the guilty one. Whatever.

My proposal:

Darth Feather
B_Ray
edse
BSmith

Darth Feather is clean.
B_Ray is untested but is likely clean.
edse is also untested.
Out of BSmith and Makrell, I think Makrell is the more likely scum, but it can only be one of them, I think.

Chaotix
02-03-2013, 20:27
OH crap.

It's actually possible that both me and Jarema are clean, but DF, BSmith, and Makrell are all guilty.

That is supremely unlikely given the odds, but strictly speaking possible.

Anyway, do what you will with my proposal. It's not great, but you wouldn't approve one with me in it, so there it is.

Jarema
02-03-2013, 20:50
I THINK JAREMA IS INNOCENT. WHY WOULD HE SEND A SECOND SPY ON THE MISSION IF HE WERE THE SPY. THAT WOULD BE COMPLETELY IRRATIONAL.

I support this. I claim to be confirmed innocent now. It also means that Chaotix is 99% scum

B-Wing
02-03-2013, 20:58
I didn't approve the last mission either.

...



MISSION TEAM:
JAREMA, CHAOTIX, BSMITH & MAKRELL

OPPOSE - 3
Visorslash
D Feather
BRay

APPROVE - 4 (+Jarema)
edse
BSmith
Makrell
Chaotix

I have no idea why you would seriously say this.

edse
02-03-2013, 21:39
I THINK JAREMA IS INNOCENT. WHY WOULD HE SEND A SECOND SPY ON THE MISSION IF HE WERE THE SPY. THAT WOULD BE COMPLETELY IRRATIONAL.


I support this. I claim to be confirmed innocent now. It also means that Chaotix is 99% scum

Jarema choosing another spy to the team is no more irrational than at least 2 spies supporting it.

Darth Feather
02-03-2013, 22:52
IF YOU DID NOT SUPPORT IT, THE PROPOSAL WOULD NOT HAVE GONE THROUGH AND NEXT TEAM MIGHT BE WITHOUT A SPY, CLEARING FOUR MEMBERS. WITH THIS TEAM, YOU WERE ONLY ONE MISSION AWAY FROM THE VICTORY.

Chaotix
02-04-2013, 00:15
...



I have no idea why you would seriously say this.

Welp.

LazyMcCrow and I are gonna have a little talk about the meaning of "secret ballot". In an interrogation room. With no windows.

B-Wing
02-04-2013, 00:36
^made me LOL ... I didn't realize ballots were going to be public info at first either
Well, I'm more willing to clear Jarema's name now.

Visor
02-04-2013, 00:51
Visor-Darth-BRay-Jarrema

Sounds good to me. Let's get this show on the road and wipe some imperial scum out!

BSmith seems townie as well, expecially how he wanted to swap Chaotix for Darth.

If the mission isn't Visor-B_Ray-Darth Feather-Jarrema

Decline!

Darth Feather
02-04-2013, 09:05
BECAUSE BSMITH WANTED TO SWAP ME FOR CHAOTIX, HE IS EVEN MORE SUSPICIOUS. IF THERE WOULD BE ONE FAILLURE, BSMITH COULD EASILY BLAME IT ON ME

OOC: I know, I am making huge assumptions

Darth Feather
02-04-2013, 09:15
MY PROCESSORS FOUND ANOTHER ANOMALY IN THE THINGS CHAOTIX SAID. IF HE WAS COMPLETELY INNOCENT. WHY WOULD HE NOT TAKE HIMSELF ON THE MISSION. FROM HIS POINT OF VIEW, HE IS COMPLETELY INNOCENT AND THE ONLY ONE HE IS SURE OF. TAKING BSMITH WOULD JUST BE A UNNECESARY RISK

Visor
02-04-2013, 09:20
Darth, read my post.

Jarema
02-04-2013, 09:38
Jarema choosing another spy to the team is no more irrational than at least 2 spies supporting it.

No.
If I was a spy, I would know for 100% that I can sent failure order, and I would have no need for other spy.
OTOH, if there were two spies on the mission, none of them will know if the other one will send failure order or not - they cant coordinate outside of a game thread

Visor
02-04-2013, 09:40
Guys, it is Edse-Chaotix-Makrell who are spies.

Remember to send in your order to OPPOSE THE VOTE!

VIVA LA REVOLUTION!

Jarema
02-04-2013, 09:53
Remember to send in your order to OPPOSE THE VOTE!


Have I missed real proposal somewhere?

Visor
02-04-2013, 09:57
I didn't approve the last mission either.

It's clear Jarema is the scum here, and trying to pass it off as me being the scum. Either BSmith or Makrell is scum number 2, and I predict Visorslash is the third, since he's trying so hard to make me look like the guilty one. Whatever.

My proposal:

Darth Feather
B_Ray
edse
BSmith

Darth Feather is clean.
B_Ray is untested but is likely clean.
edse is also untested.
Out of BSmith and Makrell, I think Makrell is the more likely scum, but it can only be one of them, I think.

This one! I missed it too, just sent my vote in.

LazyMcCrow
02-04-2013, 10:36
OOC note on the rules:

Once a Mission Team proposal has been made in the thread, it stands until it has been voted on.

Players send their votes to me via PM - this is to simulate the simultaneous vote in the face-to-face version of the game in which players play Approval/Opposition cards face down.

I shall accept changes to any players vote UNTIL I have a complete set. Once I have a complete set, I shall post the results INCLUDING HOW EACH INDIVIDUAL VOTED.

The proposal requires a clear majority of Approval votes to succeed. Ties are counted as if the proposal has been Opposed. Hope that's all clear.

LazyMcCrow
02-04-2013, 13:13
I have a complete set of votes. Result to be posted imminently.

LazyMcCrow
02-04-2013, 13:44
McCrow watched the discussion intently. There was a great deal of opposition to Chaotix’s proposal and mistrust simmered around the table.

Before too long, the Team reached a conclusion and voted:

MISSION THREE - Leader = CHAOTIX

proposal:
Darth Feather
B_Ray
edse
BSmith

APPROVE
(Chaotix)
edse

OPPOSE
BSmith
B Ray
Darth Feather
Visorslash
Jarema
Makrell


‘The proposal has clearly been OPPOSED, and so leadership passes in turn to DARTH FEATHER. I don’t have to remind you all that we have a deadline to get this mission underway.’

‘You may continue to discuss who is for who and why people voted the way they did, but as soon as DARTH FEATHER makes his proposal, we’re going straight back into voting mode - to approve or oppose it. Carry on.’

Visor
02-04-2013, 13:46
Same mission?

LazyMcCrow
02-04-2013, 13:50
OOC: Yes. We are still on Mission Three. We remain on M3 until we have a Team Proposal which is approved (at which point the Mission is attempted), OR until the proposals have been OPPOSED five times in a row, at which point the Empire wins automatically.

Visor
02-04-2013, 13:51
Alrighty. Myself, BRay, Darth and Jarrema, let's ship out this time.

B-Wing
02-04-2013, 14:02
Locked and loaded.

Darth Feather
02-04-2013, 14:07
NEXT MISSION TEAM IS

VISORSLASH
B_RAY
DARTH FEATHER
JAREMA

Visor
02-04-2013, 14:10
NEXT MISSION TEAM IS

VISORSLASH
B_RAY
DARTH FEATHER
JAREMA
Approval vote sent.

LazyMcCrow
02-04-2013, 20:34
McCrow cast her worried eyes over her Team. The votes were cast and the outcome was conclusive:

MISSION 3: LEADER: DARTH FEATHER

VISORSLASH
B_RAY
DARTH FEATHER
JAREMA

APPROVE
(Darth Feather)
Visorslash
edse
B_Ray
Makrell
BSmith
Jarema

OPPOSE
Chaotix

It seems you're calling the shots Droid Lazy acknowledged before flicking on the mic.

'OK - listen up folks. The Team is approved. This is our last chance to disable the defensive lines of that Orbital Base. The Empire knows we're coming and I think we all know our chances of success are slim, but if we've managed to pick a clean Team - a loyal Team - then maybe, just maybe we're back in the game.

Those of you on the Mission...Suit up. You've got 30 mins to get kitted out and up to the shuttle bay. Your explosive charges will be given to you en route. Those among you who are loyal - Good Luck. That is all.'


Mission Three is GO.
VISORSLASH
B_RAY
DARTH FEATHER
JAREMA
Please send your Mission Orders at your earliest convenience.
:bow:

Darth Feather
02-04-2013, 21:51
I AM EVEN MORE CONVINCED EDSE IS SCUM. IF HE WOULD FOLLOW HIS OWN REASONING HE SHOULD DISSAPROVE

Man, if I am wrong ,please lynch me or drop me in a barrel of sulphuric acid

LazyMcCrow
02-05-2013, 09:27
Complete set of orders received. Writeup to follow

LazyMcCrow
02-05-2013, 10:01
Lazy hit rewind and watched the monitor once again as it showed the small Imperial shuttle enter the maintenance shaft of the vast Orbital Base. The shuttle carried the civilian engineers tasked with monitoring the Shield systems of the gargantuan Empire outpost. As the replay showed the shuttle docking next to the Shield receptors she relived the moment she had detonated the charges that the Mission Team had planted onboard. The was a blinding white flash followed seconds later by a huge spurt of flame and then cascade of debris bursting forth into the vacuum of space from the shaft. The chain reaction caused by the bombs detonation was visible on the surface of the Base. There was no doubt that the shields would not be operative any time soon.

Sensors flickered, signalling the return of the Mission Team. As the roll doors of the elevator opened, the Team were met with the whoops and applause of the Resistance adjutants and service staff who - even now - were prepping for the follow up Mission.

With something between a swagger and a stumble, VISORSLASH emerged behind the Biotic G.I. DARTH FEATHER. Both B_RAY and JAREMA followed next, being careful to circle the puddle of urine that the demolitions expert had left in the elevator.

‘Shuckshesh!’ screamed the mad bomber ‘That’ll show thoshe Empire boysh which shide their shoesh are tied up!’

A small team of adjutants hurried to the Operations table as VISORSLASH was noisily sick beneath it.

With a frown, Lazy made ready with her speech.

‘Congratulations troops. Our third Mission was a success and the shields are down, but getting wasted and falling apart is not on the agenda. Someone sober that fool up. We’ve got a window of opportunity here, a window which could either allow us access to the Bases’ mainframe, or a window which will lead our efforts plummeting into failure, if our next Team doesn’t do the job. We’re still on a knife edge, but we’re back in the fight.’

‘Here’s the tally folks:

THE MISSIONS:
1st Mission Team: 3 Members (Jarema, Chaotix, Darth Feather) FAILED (2 Success, 1 Failure)
2nd Mission Team: 4 Members (Jarema, Chaotix, BSmith, Makrell) FAILED (2 Success, 2 Failure)
3rd Mission Team: 4 Members (Jarema, Darth Feather, B_Ray, Visorslash) SUCCEEDED
4th Mission Team: 5 Members*
5th Mission Team: 5 Members

*This Mission requires a minimum of 2 MISSION FAILS orders for it to fail.

‘We need five members selected for the Mission... EDSE you’re up’

The grizzled Assault operative nodded. His scarred visage was calm and steady, despite the responsibility that had been handed to him.

‘We’ve got a foot in the door already with this one.' Lazy concluded, 'Mission Four will be particularly difficult for any Imperial Spies to sabotage. Let’s hear what the Team has to say and get a proposal on the table as soon as you’re ready’

Darth Feather
02-05-2013, 10:34
CHAOTIX IS MOST CERTAINLY GUILTY. NEXT MISSION WILL SUCCEED. EDSE JUST HAS TO MAKE A TEAM OF US FOUR AND EITHER MAKRELL OR BSMITH OR EVEN HIMSELF. BECAUSE THE MISSION ASKS FOR TWO FAILLURES, THE MISSION WILL SUCCEED. I AM POITING MY SECOND ARM OF MASS-DESTRUCTION TO CHAOTIX AND HAVE A REQUEST TO PUT CHAOTIX IN A BARREL OF SULPHURIC ACID THUS KILLING ONE SPY.

edse
02-05-2013, 11:07
Well, this was easy. My proposal for my proposed team is Jarema, Darth Feather, B_Ray, Visorslash and me. Okay?

LazyMcCrow
02-05-2013, 11:17
Proposal is tabled. Time to vote. (I shall send a PM to inform everyone of this)

Makrell
02-05-2013, 11:33
Apporved

easy success is easy

Visor
02-05-2013, 13:13
Jarema, Darth Feather, B_Ray, Visorslash cleared.

Makrell or BSmith are the final scum.

I think it is Makrell, will take another look. Are we approving this one guys? Edse can't fail us.

B-Wing
02-05-2013, 14:17
Seems easy enough. Keep in mind that while it shouldn't be possible to fail this one, if there is a scum aboard, they likely won't even attempt to sabotage the mission, so we probably won't learn anything from a success. Mission 5 is going to be... tense.

Visor
02-05-2013, 14:51
Seems easy enough. Keep in mind that while it shouldn't be possible to fail this one, if there is a scum aboard, they likely won't even attempt to sabotage the mission, so we probably won't learn anything from a success. Mission 5 is going to be... tense.

I'm really not getting anything townie from Makrell in this game, meanwhile I am from Bsmith. I would bet that he is the last townie resistance guy.

Let's roll this mission out.

LazyMcCrow
02-05-2013, 17:58
I'm waiting on one vote. Will be back online laters.

LazyMcCrow
02-06-2013, 10:11
Finally - after long consideration CHAOTIX opposed the vote. Her new skin was a fresh pink colour but that did nothing to lighten her obvious foul mood since the debacle of the second mission. The threats of Sulphuric acid from the battle bot probably hadn't helped it much either Lazy conceded, but; as the veteran was the only one of the team to oppose the proposal, it went ahead.

'JAREMA, DARTH FEATHER, EDSE, B_RAY, VISORSLASH' called Lazy over the tannoy. ' Get your kit together and convene in the hangar in 20. It's time for Operation Sitting Duck.

Mission 4 is GO Orders to me via PM :bow:

'

LazyMcCrow
02-06-2013, 22:03
I have a complete set of orders. Write up to follow

LazyMcCrow
02-06-2013, 22:58
The applause rang out around the bunker. Fist-pumping and whooping was the voluntary order of the day for all the Resistance staff who had been waiting for their heroes to return. As the five members of the successful Mission Team exited the elevator, back slapping and noisy congratulations carried them slowly to the Planning Table, where their Supervisor - Lazy McCrow was waiting - this time in the flesh.

‘All of you back to your stations’ she hollered, waving to disperse the crowd of revolutionary mechanics, engineers, clipboard wavers and chicken soup machine maintenance operatives.

Once the dust had settled and the Mission Team had rejoined their colleagues, McCrow directed their attention to the holo-display of the Orbital Base as it rose from the centre of the table.

‘A clean sheet my friends. Something to be proud of. For those of you who among us who are traitorous scum - I’d like to thumb my teeth in your general direction, but - unfortunately - it is still too early for such celebration.

Granted - the diversions to our final mission are in place, and as far as we can see, the Empire have no idea.’

‘They had no idea we were even there’ confirmed JAREMA, nodding.

EDSE smirked, ‘It feels kind of strange, but I actually enjoyed a mission where we didn’t kill anyone for a change... maybe there is something to this stealthy rogue-like shit after all’.

Lazy allowed herself a smirk of her own... after all it may be her last chance to smile at all, depending on how the final Mission went.

‘And so, ladies and gents - it comes to this. In 24 hours time, we will either be in control of the Imperial Orbital Base, or we will be blown into the tiniest of our constituent parts and smeared somewhere across the system.

High Command won’t tolerate any traitors escaping - even if we ARE successful tomorrow, I can still see them taking those of us who remain at Resistance HQ out of the equation anyway - just to make sure no escape attempts can be made. But enough of the jolly stuff...’ she waved at the rotating schematic ‘...here’s where we begin our final chapter’


An hour or two later and all present were aware of the audacious plot.

‘All that remains is to make the biggest decision. Which of us are to attempt the Mission and which of us are to remain.’

She nodded to the rookie Psyker

‘B_RAY - you’re up. Mission proposal needs to be made, and it’s your turn to play leader. Take your time and don’t feel rushed by anything except the clock. We’ve got 24 hours to make up our minds. Once your proposal is made, we vote. Pick loyal and we get to hammer home the final nail in the Empires coffin in this system. Pick traitors and we won’t even need coffins for whatever High Command leaves of us. So... deep breaths and let’s hear what people have to say.’

THE MISSIONS:
1st Mission Team: 3 Members (Jarema, Chaotix, Darth Feather) FAILED (2 Success, 1 Failure)
2nd Mission Team: 4 Members (Jarema, Chaotix, BSmith, Makrell) FAILED (2 Success, 2 Failure)
3rd Mission Team: 4 Members (Jarema, Darth Feather, B_Ray, Visorslash) SUCCEEDED
4th Mission Team: 5 Members (Jarema, Darth Feather, Edse, B_Ray, Visorslash) SUCCEEDED (no Fail orders sent) *
5th Mission Team: 5 Members

*This Mission requires a minimum of 2 MISSION FAILS orders for it to fail.

Visor
02-07-2013, 03:38
Jarema, Darth Feather, Edse, BRay, Visorslash and either BSmith or Makrell.

I'm going for BSmith here.

Visor
02-07-2013, 03:41
Lets calculate. To make it simpler we assume that there were only one spy in the first team.

That's enough for me.

BRay, do you think BSmith is a better choice then Makrell?

B-Wing
02-07-2013, 05:17
Hold on Visorslash, we only need 5 members for this mission, not 6. So, as far as I'm concerned, the following people have proven loyal to the Resistance, assuming they adhere to rational behavior: Jarema, Darth Feather, Visorslash, and myself.

So the 4 of us are a lock for this final mission. Chaotix has all but admitted his treachery, so he is out. Throughout the course of our missions thus far, it seems that BSmith and edse have been more in agreement with each other and Chaotix than with the rest of us. Their suggestions and proposals have consistently been ones that would place exactly one of them (no more) in the missions. Makrell isn't exactly squeaky clean, but the evidence against him isn't nearly as damning.

Therefore, in my best judgement, this last final, decisive team... whose actions will define our future generations... whose deeds will either usher in a new age of freedom and uncertainty, or cement a future of tyranny and oppression... this team, bound for glory or cursed with failure... shall be...
B_Ray
Jarema
Darth Feather
Visorslash
Makrell

May God have mercy on our souls. Oh, and keep in mind that ties count as "opposed", and that Makrell is next to serve as leader, followed by Visorslash.

Visor
02-07-2013, 05:28
Hold on Visorslash, we only need 5 members for this mission, not 6. So, as far as I'm concerned, the following people have proven loyal to the Resistance, assuming they adhere to rational behavior: Jarema, Darth Feather, Visorslash, and myself.

So the 4 of us are a lock for this final mission. Chaotix has all but admitted his treachery, so he is out. Throughout the course of our missions thus far, it seems that BSmith and edse have been more in agreement with each other and Chaotix than with the rest of us. Their suggestions and proposals have consistently been ones that would place exactly one of them (no more) in the missions. Makrell isn't exactly squeaky clean, but the evidence against him isn't nearly as damning.

Therefore, in my best judgement, this last final, decisive team... whose actions will define our future generations... whose deeds will either usher in a new age of freedom and uncertainty, or cement a future of tyranny and oppression... this team, bound for glory or cursed with failure... shall be...
B_Ray
Jarema
Darth Feather
Visorslash
Makrell

May God have mercy on our souls. Oh, and keep in mind that ties count as "opposed", and that Makrell is next to serve as leader, followed by Visorslash.

I'm aware of that, but I still think you are wrong. Let me go through their posts and point out exactly why.

Resistance members, I urge you to disapprove of this mission. I will be.

Visor
02-07-2013, 05:31
i am not certain who should be on the mission, but i will saty this

i am the greatest support medic ever and i am even enhanced with neutral pharmacology.

Also edse makes sense

Supports edse who we know as scum.


how long are these ophases supose to go? What if someone is gone for more than 24 hours during a mission phase? wil the mission fail or succeedThis is a bit of an interesting question to be honest, you could take it both ways.


approved, cause i like math that seems all the way correct

Definitely a bad choice.


ok, Darth Feather is most likely safe i think. Either Jarema or Chaotix nearly must be evil imperials. Bsmith might be evil, as can i.

I vote next mission team as

Dart Feather, edse, bRay and visorslash, as those are most probable to not be resistance.
or i could be destroyed by some kind of math pretty soon :P

HE puts edse in and says probable not resistance. Alarm bells anyone?


Apporved

easy success is easy

And so on.

I honestly feel that he has to be the last scum. It makes sense from his traditional scum viewpoint, and I just don't feel scum from BSmith.

Visor
02-07-2013, 05:33
I’ll go with edse’s reasoning. Proposed members for the first mission:

Jarema
Chaotix
Darth Feather
Follows edse. You could take it either way here.


If you are there instead of me, then we are guaranteed to have a spy on the mission, as all three members that were on the first failed mission would be on this one as well...

I might suggest swapping chaotix and Darth_Feather. chaotix's silence on things is deafening.

Offers to swap known scum for town. Of course with makrell being scum, it doesn't matter, but he has a legitimate point as well.


I would prefer it the other way, but I am OK with it the way it is.

Approved.

THis as well.

BSmith has said less, but he has been a lot less pro scum.

Visor
02-07-2013, 05:34
Finally, with Edse's comment, I feel that BSmith can't be the scummer, and that it has to be Makrell. I don't know about the rest of the resistance members, but I can't let this mission go ahead, as I honestly believe that Makrell is the scumbag.

B Ray?

BSmith
02-07-2013, 05:37
If I am not on this mission it is guaranteed to fail.

B-Wing
02-07-2013, 06:06
Visorslash, since we seem to agree on edse and Chaotix, I will focus strictly on BSmith.


If you are there instead of me, then we are guaranteed to have a spy on the mission, as all three members that were on the first failed mission would be on this one as well...

I might suggest swapping chaotix and Darth_Feather. chaotix's silence on things is deafening.
The proposal at this point (Jarema's) was Jarema, Chaotix, BSmith, and Makrell. This first line (directed at Darth Feather) indicates BSmith wants to stay on the team, perfectly fine regardless of his allegiance. The second line suggests swapping Chaotix out for Dark Feather because... Chaotix has been quiet? What logic does that follow? I think he wanted Chaotix gone precisely so that two traitors wouldn't be outed. Keep in mind that the traitors cannot communicate with each other outside these meetings [this thread] so, in the event that multiple Imperialists are on the same team, they cannot secretly discuss who will sabotage missions and who will not. BSmith, Chaotix, edse, and Makrell approve the proposal.


BSmith, Jarema, Darth Feather, Visorslash is fine to me. I would however rather see myself instead of BSmith but it would be contra-productive since it would be opposed.
If edse is definitely scum but BSmith is clean, why would edse suggest a team composed of 4 Resistance members and offer as his sole reservation that he would prefer to replace BSmith?

After this point, BSmith and Makrell both remain silent. Except for BSmith's most recent insistence that if he is not on this team, it will surely fail.

Visor
02-07-2013, 06:43
Because Bsmith is town and still unknown?

There are convincing cases, and I'm not sure who is scum out of the two, because neither has posted. BSmith has a legitimate reason but Makrell doesn't, and he has remained suspiciously quiet, when he has voted in the other games.

edse
02-07-2013, 08:02
That's enough for me.

BRay, do you think BSmith is a better choice then Makrell?


Supports edse who we know as scum.

I don't get why you have assumed that I'm a spy the whole game. At first I thought it was my brainfart to suggest the last four for team two. Other than that I have always helped the resistance.

Makrell
02-07-2013, 08:14
why would we not choose the same team as last mission, given that it suceeded. IF there were 2 imperials on that team they wouldve sabotaged it, thereby winning.

So i vote same as last

edse
02-07-2013, 08:38
why would we not choose the same team as last mission, given that it suceeded. IF there were 2 imperials on that team they wouldve sabotaged it, thereby winning.

So i vote same as last

The last mission need only one failed order to fail.

Everyone should oppose this proposal.

Darth Feather
02-07-2013, 09:31
why would we not choose the same team as last mission, given that it suceeded. IF there were 2 imperials on that team they wouldve sabotaged it, thereby winning.

So i vote same as last

MY CIRCUITS DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE REASONING BEHIND THIS. IS THIS WHAT YOU HUMANS CALL "JOKING" ? WE ALREADY KNEW THERE WAS AT MOST ONE SPY ON THE TEAM BECAUSE THE THIRD MISSIOIN SUCCEEDED. IN THE FOURTH MISSION, AS B_RAY POINTED OUT, THE SPY WOULD OF COURSE GIVE A SUCCES ORDER.

Jarema
02-07-2013, 09:31
my head is going to explode.
soon

I have a gut feeling that BSmith is innocent. But I remember game where I had such feeling towards him and he turned out to be mafia :(

Makrell
02-07-2013, 09:41
Supports edse who we know as scum.
Edse is a good mafia player, hence my starting support. also he did make sense at the time, noone could know chaotix was imperial
This is a bit of an interesting question to be honest, you could take it both ways.

indeed so

Definitely a bad choice.

indeed so, but the math was not wrong, edse just made his own choice

HE puts edse in and says probable not resistance. Alarm bells anyone?

i had not got a imperial feel from edse then, i was wrong

And so on.
easy success was easy
I honestly feel that he has to be the last scum. It makes sense from his traditional scum viewpoint, and I just don't feel scum from BSmith.
i disagree.

im agreeing on the mission team, all of them are resistance

BSmith
02-07-2013, 15:12
Why so confident that all are resistance? How can you know with certainty? All I really know for certain is that you are wrong as I am resistance and me not being on this mission means it fails.

I don't have a lot of time to analyze things (had a death in the family this past weekend and am travelling the rest of this week). Take my word for it or not, but I am resistance and we can't have any spies at all on this mission.

Darth Feather
02-07-2013, 16:03
i disagree.

im agreeing on the mission team, all of them are resistance

WE DO NOT KNOW THAT. YOU ARE MAKING LESS SENSE THAN BSMITH. FIRSTLY MY PROCESSORS SHOWED HIM TO BE THE MOST LIKELY SUSPECT BUT NOW YOU ARE ACTING A LOT MORE SUSPICIOUS THAN HE IS.

LazyMcCrow
02-07-2013, 16:13
Therefore, in my best judgement, this last final, decisive team... whose actions will define our future generations... whose deeds will either usher in a new age of freedom and uncertainty, or cement a future of tyranny and oppression... this team, bound for glory or cursed with failure... shall be...
B_Ray
Jarema
Darth Feather
Visorslash
Makrell

May God have mercy on our souls. Oh, and keep in mind that ties count as "opposed", and that Makrell is next to serve as leader, followed by Visorslash.

In case anyone missed it - we have a mission proposal tabled. Please send me your votes. Thanks to those who already have.

LazyMcCrow
02-08-2013, 12:48
I have requested the two players I am waiting on for their votes PM them to me ASAP. Hopefully will have a result to the voting at some point today.

LazyMcCrow
02-08-2013, 14:09
Opinion was mixed, but the proposal has been Opposed.

APPROVE
(B_Ray)
Darth Feather
Makrell

OPPOSE
BSmith
Jarema
Chaotix
edse
Visorslash

And so, for our second attempt, leadership passes to MAKRELL

Darth Feather
02-08-2013, 14:22
I MADE A MISTAKE, I SHOULD HAVE VOTED AGAINST THE TEAM. MAKRELL IS OBVIOUSLY AN EVIL SPY.

B-Wing
02-08-2013, 15:08
Either your circuits have gone awry or you've learned the basics of sarcasm. If Makrell was a traitor, the other 2 would have approved the team. I wasn't 100% certain of his innocence when I proposed the team, and his behavior certainly became more questionable even after endorsing him, but now I'm certain of his innocence.

I'll restate that point: if Makrell was a traitor, then both his partners voted against him being on the team. Therefore, Makrell cannot be a traitor. Do the math. BSmith, edse, and Chaotix are the enemy. Fire when ready, Makrell.

Darth Feather
02-08-2013, 15:19
OOC: Hey, you are right. Didn't think about it that way

Jarema
02-08-2013, 15:22
Yeah. With that number of votes, if Makrell was scum, we would lose already.
So, either Makrell is town, or someone is not paying attention

Visor
02-08-2013, 15:25
Yeah I think you're right BRay. And bsmiths last posts are fairly convincing for his scummitude.

Visor
02-08-2013, 15:27
They don't sound natural, they sound forced.

Anyway, I vote Visor, Df, Bray, jarema, makrell

Darth Feather
02-08-2013, 15:54
I DO VOTE THE SAME. WE WILL DESTROY THE EMPIRE AND MAKE THE ETERNAL GALACTIC UNION OF UNITED FEDERATIONS.

BSmith
02-08-2013, 16:00
They don't sound natural, they sound forced.

Anyway, I vote Visor, Df, Bray, jarema, makrell

It's because I don't have a lot of time to post and I am being as blunt as possible. And it's not like there wasn't significant public opposition to the proposal. Failure of the proposal was quite likely. I wouldn't doubt some disapprove votes from the spies to further confuse the issue.

Darth Feather
02-08-2013, 16:33
NEGATIVE. IF THE SPIES WOULD HAVE AGREED THE MISSION WOULD HAVE GONE TROUGH AND THE EMPIRE WOULD BE VICTORIOUS. WHY CONFUSE IF YOU CAN WIN?

Makrell
02-08-2013, 16:34
Therefore, in my best judgement, this last final, decisive team... whose actions will define our future generations... whose deeds will either usher in a new age of freedom and uncertainty, or cement a future of tyranny and oppression... this team, bound for glory or cursed with failure... shall be...
B_Ray
Jarema
Darth Feather
Visorslash
Makrell

Send your votes gentlemans

Darth Feather
02-08-2013, 16:37
APPROVAL HAS BEEN SENT.

OOC: or actually in another character: May the force be with us

B-Wing
02-08-2013, 16:55
Plagiarism approved! :beam:

BSmith
02-08-2013, 17:33
There is a spy on that list. If it is approved the mission will fail. Mark my words.

B-Wing
02-08-2013, 18:42
Words marked.

LazyMcCrow
02-09-2013, 10:30
Therefore, in my best judgement, this last final, decisive team... whose actions will define our future generations... whose deeds will either usher in a new age of freedom and uncertainty, or cement a future of tyranny and oppression... this team, bound for glory or cursed with failure... shall be...
B_Ray
Jarema
Darth Feather
Visorslash
Makrell

Send your votes gentlemans

APPROVE
(MAKRELL)
DARTH FEATHER
B_RAY
JAREMA
EDSE
CHAOTIX
VISORSLASH


OPPOSE
BSmith


Mission 5 is GO! - If you are on the Team and have not yet posted me your orders please do so immediately!

BSmith
02-09-2013, 13:59
Good job spies.

Makrell
02-09-2013, 15:31
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzntZLHcYy0

LazyMcCrow
02-09-2013, 18:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzntZLHcYy0
Coincidentally - my dad, may he rest in peace, played on that little ditty with the LSO. *Proud*

B-Wing
02-09-2013, 19:39
Well I'm perplexed.

LazyMcCrow
02-09-2013, 21:46
I have a complete set of orders. Write up to follow. (This will be at least 2 hours from now)

LazyMcCrow
02-10-2013, 01:20
B_RAY jacked out of the Imperial terminal and gave a quick - if nervous - smile at his Team mates. They sprinted to the edge of the shaft and pulled the G.I. facemasks from their packs and hastily put them on. Already wearing the body armour of the Empire, four of the team now looked exactly like Imperial Troopers, and the fifth - well until his digital re-birth, he had been an Imperial Trooper - albeit a Biotic one.

MAKRELL gave the thumbs up and they split ways - two groups making for the control tower by separate routes: MAKRELL and DARTH FEATHER taking the service conduit and the other three marching straight past the main hangar. As soon as the diversions kicked off they would have their chance.

10 minutes and two incredibly large explosions later and B_RAY had forced the door to the Control room open. JAREMA and VISORSLASH ran through the doors, blasting and shouting as they did so: Two troopers hit the deck and the various techsperts implanted at their stations gazed in open mouthed shock, as the three resistance members took the supervisor under their control at gun point.

B_RAY knelt beside the Supervisors console and began the process of over-riding the Imperial protocols and uploading the Resistance breakers to the mainframe of the Orbital Base.

There was a sudden flash of sparks and JAREMA twirled to see B_RAY's head snap back as a blaster shot blew him away from the console. She raised her blaster and fired as the large bulk of DARTH FEATHER, minus his head, was bundled into the control room followed by a platoon of Imperial G.I.s

VISORSLASH gave a strangled cry of anguish and made to pull something from his pack, but was hit by a barrage of blaster fire before he could withdraw his hand - his pack flashing briefly white as it detonated with him on top of it, blowing him to smithereens and taking two rows of data entry clerks with him. A second volley and JAREMA was cut down by blaster fire. 30 seconds after taking the control room, the Resistance was dead.

MAKRELL stalked slowly into the room as the smoke cleared; security and maintenance droids rushing to secure the remains of the intruders and to extinguish the various fires which had sprung up. Pulling his facemask off gingerly he mopped at his fresh pink skin - still growing back after his crashlanding on Orgarhh back when he'd helped Mission Two to fail. He gave a tight smile and counted his lucky stars that he would be the only one of the Team to survive.

Back in the Operations bunker at Resistance HQ. Alarms sounded and Lazy McCrow grimaced - hurriedly stuffing her personal possessions into a holdall while she listened to instructions from high command.

Given the ultimate failure of the Resistance in the sector, McCrow had assumed she would be destroyed, along with the remaining traitors, but it seemed that High Command had other plans for her, and so she resolved to put the past - and this godawful snafu - behind her as soon as she could get on board the shuffle.

Around the table. BSMITH just shook his head. Both EDSE and CHAOTIX smiled, closed their eyes and - safe in the knowledge that they had played their part in thwarting the Resistance in their system - happily waited to die.

IMPERIAL VICTORY!

BSmith
Jarema
Chaotix
Darth Feather
edse
B_Ray
Makrell
Visorslash

I'd be grateful to hear any feedback about the game, what you felt worked - what didn't and what you might change to improve it. I shall put forward my own thoughts on the game in the next few days.

Thank you all very much for playing.
:bow:

Visor
02-10-2013, 01:28
Goddamnit. I kept saying they were scum, but I never listened to myself.

B-Wing
02-10-2013, 02:19
Well crap. That was quite fun, a welcome change of pace from mafia. Thanks for hosting it McCrow!

So, I have to ask, Chaotix and edse, why didn't you vote to accept the team proposal the first time it came up?? And BSmith, I apologize for writing you off, but the evidence certainly seemed to implicate you more than Makrell. To the rest of the Resistance, sorry for supporting Makrell so adamantly. It really did seem like the right choice at the time. :shrug:

I really like the fact that there's no elimination from the game. You can focus on solving the game without worrying about getting killed off and becoming a non-factor. Also makes it extra challenging that you can't prove a player's allegiance. I like it a lot, though, and would be up for any future games of this sort. Not sure what adjustments, if any, I would make.

Visor
02-10-2013, 02:21
I know what adjustment the resistance should have done. We should've used Mission 4 as a test, rather then just sending cleared townies. Put Chaotix and Bsmith in. You need to take risks to win this game it seems.

EDIT: Thanks McCrow for hosting the game, I enjoyed it.

Jarema
02-10-2013, 07:28
It was very funny game. I want to play something like that once more!

It has advantages of mini mafia (small number of players so I can manage some analysis) and do not have its drawbacks (after 1 or 2 kills it is over because there is so low number of players)

edse
02-10-2013, 08:12
So, I have to ask, Chaotix and edse, why didn't you vote to accept the team proposal the first time it came up??

I personally saw it as too risky. Darth Feather could have opposed the mission and then the game would be over if Makrell, Chaotix and me were the only ones approving.

Darth Feather
02-10-2013, 08:47
THIS WAS REALLY FUN. THANKS FOR HOSTING LAZYMCCROW.

Makrell
02-10-2013, 19:52
WUHU

i was quite certain we would lose, but then we didnt very fun :)

I and the rest of the empire had trouble coordinating when there is no out of thread communicating.

Dont know how to change things its simplicity is great

Chaotix
02-10-2013, 21:47
Well crap. That was quite fun, a welcome change of pace from mafia. Thanks for hosting it McCrow!

So, I have to ask, Chaotix and edse, why didn't you vote to accept the team proposal the first time it came up?? And BSmith, I apologize for writing you off, but the evidence certainly seemed to implicate you more than Makrell. To the rest of the Resistance, sorry for supporting Makrell so adamantly. It really did seem like the right choice at the time. :shrug:

I really like the fact that there's no elimination from the game. You can focus on solving the game without worrying about getting killed off and becoming a non-factor. Also makes it extra challenging that you can't prove a player's allegiance. I like it a lot, though, and would be up for any future games of this sort. Not sure what adjustments, if any, I would make.

After my mistake and you guys knew I was a spy, I thought it best to oppose all mission proposals so you couldn't glean any information about who my teammates were.

I thought the last mission would go through even with my opposition, but I was wrong. So when I saw the chance to win with this mission, I had to make sure it would pass this time. I knew BSmith would be opposing it.

BSmith
02-11-2013, 18:08
I think this was a great game. No real feedback, other than I'd like to see more of the kind. My only regret was not being able to be online all that much during the end phase of the game to be able to post more of my thoughts.

LazyMcCrow
02-12-2013, 10:20
I'm glad the overall impression seems to be that its worth playing again. It's got a different feel to it than mafia, and its funny, the lack of 'elimination' is actually quite misleading. For example, Chaotix - despite being 'alive' had his role reduced as he said to simply opposing everything - doesn't strike me as much fun really. In a game of mafia, being dead really shouldn't be the game-ender it is for a lot of players - including myself!

Because the spies simply cannot interact without drawing attention to themselves The Resistance! feels like it has a bit more 'random' to it than mafia. If the first Mission proposal includes three Spies - what the hell do the spies do? - opposing it might seem weird, but allowing it to go ahead could also spell carnage! three 'Mission FAIL' orders, and its the one and only failed mission that would happen. I don't know - maybe its a good thing!

I'm glad it seemed to go down as well as I hoped it would. I'm certainly tempted to host again. Incidentally, here are the relevant numbers supplied with the game:

Number of: PLAYERS / RESISTANCE / SPIES
5 / 3 / 2
6 / 4 / 2
7 / 4 / 3
8 / 5 / 3
9 / 6 / 3
10 / 6 / 4



No. of Players: 5 / 6 / 7 / 8 / 9 / 10

1st Mission Team: 2 / 2 / 2 / 3 / 3 / 3
2nd Mission Team: 3 / 3 / 3 / 4 / 4 / 4
3rd Mission Team: 2 / 4 / 3 / 4 / 4 / 4
4th Mission Team: 3 / 3 / 4 / 5 / 5 / 5 (Needs 2 Fail orders to fail)
5th Mission Team: 3 / 4 / 4 / 5 / 5 / 5



Suggested variants include Blind Spies, which might be worth using if you had a high spy/resistance ratio, but I think would eliminate a bit of fun, as it does feel more than random enough already. Also Targeting which I quite like the look of in which 'The Leader proposes both the Mission and the Team. Each Mission can only be attempted once and the 5th Mission can only be attempted after two mission have been successful'

There are also a slew of 'Power' cards which give the equivalent of mafia roles to players and obviously skew the game even further out of any semblance of balance! - but might be fun to try

There is apparently a King Arthur themed version including loads of roles, but I think that would probably be less translatable to internet / cross-timezone play

Anyway - thanks again for playing and for your responses.

Moderator! This game is CONCLUDED
:bow:

Jarema
02-12-2013, 10:36
Targeting which I quite like the look of in which 'The Leader proposes both the Mission and the Team. Each Mission can only be attempted once and the 5th Mission can only be attempted after two mission have been successful'

It seems interesting, and it seems especially well suited for writing some stories about it. Would be fun!

There are also a slew of 'Power' cards which give the equivalent of mafia roles to players and obviously skew the game even further out of any semblance of balance! - but might be fun to try

tbh, I would rather play another 'vanilla resistance' game. Roles are good when base game is played few times

LazyMcCrow
02-12-2013, 10:56
It seems interesting, and it seems especially well suited for writing some stories about it. Would be fun!

tbh, I would rather play another 'vanilla resistance' game. Roles are good when base game is played few times

Agreed. I think I'll probably keep it all vanilla until players are familiar/comfortable. The 'Plot Cards' in the Resistance work slightly differently to Roles in mafia, in that the 'Leader' is dealt Plot Cards face down (i.e., through PM). The number of plot cards depends on the number of players, and they come several different types:

The first two types are used immediately by the Leader, or used immediately by whoever the leader passes it to . The other two types are handed by the leader to other players and either have a permanent effect or are a one time use, whenever the player decides to use it.

Examples include:

Overheard Conversation: - Use Immediately - The player to whom the leader passes this card must look at the character card of one adjacent player

or

In the Spotlight - One time use - The player to whom the leader passes this card must use this card to force a player to play their Mission Card face up. (SUCCEED or FAIL orders would be submitted publicly in the thread, or I would post how that player ordered in the thread) This is played before the Mission Team have submitted their orders.

B-Wing
02-13-2013, 01:24
I would keep it vanilla for a while. When the game is limited to five rounds to begin with, I'm not sure that adding complexity is necessarily a good type of variety. Roles and such work well in mafia because they tend to be much larger, longer games with a great amount of private communication. I think the beauty of this game is that everything happens in the open, and even the infiltrators cannot discuss anything in secret.