Guess Your Role II: Second Edition Role Insanity [Concluded]

[Jarema]

Game description:

At the beginning of the game, every player would get a power role. But, they will NOT KNOW what role they got! Roles would be chosen at random. There would be only one role of given type (e.g. only one vigilante), but there can be more than one of similar roles (e.g. both sane and paranoid cop, or both doctor and CPR doctor).

Each night, each player has three choices:

a) He can try to use his ability without naming its target. If he has a role that do not have a target, he will get info ‘you did it!’. And, maybe, some other info (for example: ‘You learned that Jarema is innocent!’). Sometimes there would be no further info (for example, if character is a Curious Guy, and no one visited him). If he has a role that requires a target (or 2 targets) he would get info: ‘you must name your target!’, or ‘you must name your targets!’, and he will not use his ability during that night
b) He can try to use his ability at one target. If he has role with single target, he will get info ‘you did it!’. And, maybe, some other info (for example: ‘You learned that Jarema is innocent!’). Sometimes there would be no further info (for example, if character is a doctor, and no one attacked his target). If he has a role that requires 2 targets he would get info: ‘you must name both your targets!’, and he will not use his ability during that night. If he has a role that does not have a target, he would get info: ‘you cannot choose targets for your ability!’, and he will not use it.
c) He can try to use his ability at two targets. If he has role with two targets, he will get info ‘you did it!’. And, maybe, some other info. If he has a role that requires one target he would get info: ‘you must name only one target!’, and he will not use his ability during that night. If he has a role that does not have a target, he would get info: ‘you cannot choose targets for your ability!’, and he will not use it.



Mafia (if there is any) will also get a power role; these roles would be chosen from the same list, but with some restrictions (for example, no mafia mayor). One or more mafia member will get a role from special list of mafia roles.
If there would be a cult, there will be three additional possible roles.

List of possible roles:
1. Roles that do not have targets:

a. Insane Vigilante (kills random person)
b. Monkey (gains info about random person innocence, for example: 'You learned that Jarema is innocent')
c. Mayor (all night actions blocked, one use). KNOWS he is a mayor
d. Commuter (cannot be attacked at night; cannot be used twice in a row)
e. Lightning Rod (all actions are redirected to the player using it; cannot be used twice in a row)
f. Paranoid Gun Owner (kills any person targetting him at night when he uses this ability)
g. Curious Guy (learns who visited him that night)
h. Judge Dread (kills random member of the lynch mob {people who voted for a lynched player during previous day})
i. Gravedigger: when you use your ability, you can choose three roles from the roles of dead players. You will randomly get one of this roles. Cannot be used at night one; if attempted, you will get info: too early for using this role!)

2. Roles with a single target:

a. Skitzo (at random: protects, attacks, scans, roleblocks his target)
b. Sane Cop, Macho Cop, Paranoid Cop, Insane Cop, Naive Cop
c. Protector (protect against night actions other than attack)
d. Doctor (can protect one character against attack at night; cannot protect himself),
e. Bodyguard (as doctor, but dies if succesfully protects someone)
f. CPR doctor (can protect one character against attack at night; cannot protect himself ; if protected character is not attacked, he dies)
g. Jailkeeper (protects and roleblocks one target)
h. Roleblocker
i. Role Scanner (gains info about role name; in case of scum you can get false name of a role - e. g. serial killer would be scanned as vigilante)
j. Village fool: target learns that you are innocent
k. Vigilante (kills target)
l. Tracker (learns what target was doing at night)
m. Watcher (learns who visited target)
n. Recruiting Mason (you recruit target person to your innocent proved group. If you try to recruit scum, you and rest of your group die)
o. Recruiting Neighbor (you recruit target person to your group. you got no info about his/her innocence)

3. Roles with two targets:

a. Bus Driver (switches two persons. If bus driver switches player A and player B, and then player A is attacked, player B is attacked instead of him)
b. Taxi Driver (switches night action consequences for 2 persons. For example, taxi driver switches player A and player B, then player B attacks paranoid gun owner. As a switched consequence, player A dies)
c. Connector – creates quick topic for two people. One-time use only
d. Amor – creates a pair of lovers. One-time use only. Can use this ability only when including himself as one of targets. Lover: from now you are lovers with player XXX. If one of you die, the other will die too. You share a qt. You can win either with your 'old' victory condition, or when you two outnumber other players.
e. Mini-bus driver - changes scan results between two players (limited bus driver)
f. Oracle - sends info about Target A role to Target B; cannot use this ability on himself
g Dream Mage- sends info about Target A affiliation to Target B; cannot use this ability on himself


List of possible mafia roles:

1. Yakuza - once per game, you can 'yak': you commit suicide, and your target becomes mafia. if you are protected while 'yakking' you survive.
2. Silencer – your target cannot post anything other than his vote during next day. You cannot use this ability on the same person twice in a row.
3. Framer – for all scanners, your target will appear mafia.
4. Blackmailer – you decide for who your target will vote during next day. You cannot use this ability on the same person twice in a row.
5. Role-stealer – if your target dies during the same night, you get his role.
6. Informant – you got copies of all messages that your target gets from me at the end of the night. You cannot use this ability on the same person twice in a row.
7. Witch – you put a curse on your target. If your target is visited by anyone else than mafia during the same night, he dies. Both doctors (and all their variants) and protectors will protect against this ability.


List of possible third-party roles (they will know what their role is):
1. Vengeful killer: you are a killer with night-kill immunity. If you are attacking someone who voted for you last day (only final vote counts if that player changed his vote during day), then you can kill through protection.
2. Ninja: you are a killer who is invisible (you will not be seen as visiting someone), untrackable (appears to be sitting at his home), unblockable, & scans as average townie. In other words, immune to abilities of: tracker, watcher, roleblocker, policeman, and roles based on those (like jailkeeper).
3. Electro Maniac: you are a killer with special killing method. You can pick a player every night. That player becomes charged with electricity. If your target is already charged, you will electrocute and kill him on your next visit. Charging bypasses doctors and bodyguards, but not protector. If a charged player visits another person who is also charged, they both become electrocuted and die. This can happen as early as second night (when second victim is picked by you). This effect bypasses doctors and bodyguards, and also protectors. You are immune to electricity yourself. If someone roleblocks you, scans you, curse you, or silences you, he becomes charged with electricity. Charged players will not know that they are charged.
4. Bomber: you are a killer with special killing method. As a night action, pick a player. From now, this player is carrying a bomb. Giving player a bomb bypasses doctors and bodyguards, but not protector. As a night action, you can blow up all players with bombs. This bypasses doctors and bodyguards, and also protectors. Players with bombs will not know that they are carrying a bomb.
5. Voodoo Master: each night, you can revive one character as a zombie. It would be announced in the game thread. Zombies can be killed/lynched normally. Zombie player does not play or post, his character is only an empty husk. All zombies vote the same way that you do (be careful! It can reveal you; there is no work-around for it). Zombies cannot use any abilities. You cannot be killed at night or lynched if there is at least one zombie alive; one of them is killed instead of you. You win when number of zombies (plus you) is higher than number of remaining living players (not including you).
6. Vampire: each night, you may bite one person. If you bite one person two times in a row (not necessarily at consecutive nights, but without biting anyone else between bites), he becomes a vampire, identical to you (and you both can pass the curse of vampirism to the next victims). From now on, you share a victory condition and a quicktopic. If two vampires bites the same person during one night, he dies. If there is vampire in the game, one townie will get role of ‘vampire hunter’. Vampire hunter: you can target one player. If he is vampire, you will learn about it. If he has been bite by vampire, you will learn about it. Person whom you have chosen as a target is protected against vampire bite during this night. You are immune to vampire attacks
7. Vile Amor: every night you can create pair of lovers. Their know that their love is cursed – unlike standard lovers, they cannot win together as a lovers. But still, if one of them dies, the second one dies too. You are immune to night kills. Two times per game you can attack someone at night. You are immune to single vampire attack, but you will die if two of them attack you at the same night.
8. Spree Killer: The Spree Killer can visit another player's house and kill everyone present at that house. Being "present" is defined as having targetted that player at night. A player is NOT present at their own house if they have targetted someone else as a night action. Player IS present at their own house if they do nothing or use role without a target. Spree killer can visit himself. He is immune to all forms of night attacks.



List of additional roles possible if there is a cult (guaranteed at least one of them):

1. Priest: protects one person from being recruited into cult
2. Prophet (anti-cult scanner): scans one person for being cult or not
3. Fanatic: it is role without target. If someone tries to recruit him into cult when this power is used, he fails and fanatic learns his name

If there is cult, vamipre, or something like this, than other scum characters are immune to convertion.

At the end of night, player who tried to use his ability will get message with 2 parts. First, describing if he used his ability. Second, describing if he learned something at night, or did something evident, or something happened to him.

For example, Jarema uses his ability on ATPG. Jarema gets this two-part pm:

1. You used your ability!
2. You learned that ATPG is innocent

Now, Jarema still does not know what his ability is. He can be a cop, of course. But he can be also a skitzo. Or, he can have other role (for example doctor), but ATPG, who is Village Fool, used his ability at him at the same time... Or, Jarema is vigilante, but ATPG was protected, AND dream mage targeted Jarema and ATPG.

Another example: ATPG tries to use his ability on Chaotix. He gets this info:
1. ‘you cannot choose targets for your ability!’
2. You learned that Visorslash is innocent.

Now, he has some info to think about...

Meanwhile, Visor uses his ability on Choxorn. He gets 2 pms:
1. You used your ability!
2. There is qt for you and Choxorn.

Now, Visor is probably either a recruiting mason, or a recruiting neighbour. But he does not know which one!

Rules:

1. If not said explicitely, standard rules apply
2. Vote by using vote: Jarema format. if you want to change your vote, unvote first
3. No communication outside game thread (with exception of qt - you will be notified if you have access to any)
4. Players will be WoGed if their miss their third vote in a row
5. There will be role and alignment reveal on death (but not sanity reveal)
6. You can talk after game in the game thread, but do not reveal any information not already in the game thread
7. Fun is not an option, it is obligatory


Special Host Powers:
If randomly generated set of roles is evaluated by me as totaly unbalanced or unplayable (like mafia having roles of vigilante, cpr doctor and a witch, for possible 4 kills per night), I will re-generate set of roles.
Also, if I evaluate set of roles as boring or stupid, I will regenerate them

[Jarema]

This game is a sequel of Gues what your role is, (aka 'role insanity') (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?141847-Small-mafia-game-Guess-what-your-role-is-%28aka-role-insanity-%29-Concluded)

For those who did participate in the first game, rule changes:
1. No night zero - town was too powerful last game, this will make it less so
2. Minor tweaks to some roles

Players
1. Ishmael
2. Darth Feather
3. Makrell, role-stealer
4. BSmith
5. Riedquat, cpr doctor
6. Edse, jailkeeper
7. Arjos lightning rod
8. Montmorency
9. Gaius Scribonius Curio
10. Robbiecon
11. B_Ray, roleblocker
12. Elite Ferret village fool
13. LazyMcCrow policeman
14. Rickinator Vampire
15. Autolycus vampire hunter

[Ishmael]

I can't go past this - in please!

[Darth Feather]

In of course.

[Makrell]

i can pass this, but i wont

IN

[BSmith]

In please.

[Riedquat]

In please! :bow:

[edse]

I just read the previous game thread and OMG! I survived that game. I must be in this one as well.

[Arjos]

In ^^

[Montmorency]

Yes.

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

Sounds like great fun! In!

[robbiecon]

I remember enjoying this first time out. So I'm back for take two. IN

[Jarema]

Welcome all people here

I hope we can have a little more players than last time

[B-Wing]

I'd like to join!

[Ferret]

In!

[Jarema]

I would like to have at least 15 players, but more would be appreciated. I will advertise this game a little.

[LazyMcCrow]

Sorry I had not signed up before Jarema, it seems difficult to get many numbers right now. I'm just trying to finish writing the intro to my game, but it would seem churlish not to play yours, given the support you have shown me - even though the premise of your game frankly terrifies me :) Anyway, with only mild trepidation, please count me IN :bow:

[autolycus]

Sure, I'll be in.

[rickinator9]

Let's help you begin

[Jarema]

Welcome you all, I am grateful you join us.
I will probably start this game tommorow. (so, about 20 hours left for signups)
For now, there is the lowest number of players needed achieved, but it would be nice to see more people - in this game, I feel, every additional role adds a lot to the whole picture of the gameplay

[Jarema]

Day 1 begins.

Days will last 48 hours. When there would be 8 players or less, they will be shortened

[Darth Feather]

And we have a winner: vote: makrell

If random.org says so it must be true.

[edse]

Number 12 is vote: Elite Ferret

[Riedquat]

7 is always suspicious Vote: Arjos

[rickinator9]

vote: Darth Feather

Today's the 2nd of March

[Ferret]

vote:Riedquat

[Arjos]

Vote: Gaius Scribonius Curio, Romanes eunt domus! :P
(disclaimer, that is no proper latin)

[Montmorency]

Eu bay bay

Vote: Crow

[LazyMcCrow]

1 is 1 and all alone and ever more shall be so: vote: Ishmael

[Ishmael]

vote: autolycus, for being the werewolf role.

(Disclaimer: to the best of my knowledge there is not, in fact, a werewolf role)

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

Vote: Arjos

Seriously, the education system these days - it is Romani ite domum! :wink:

[Makrell]

vote: lazymccow

[BSmith]

vote: Makrell for the unspeakable crime of posting right above me.

[B-Wing]

Random.org says that Rickinator is guilty.

vote: Rickinator

[Jarema]

a little more than 10 hours of day remains. (it should be a little less, but I will be home then)

[LazyMcCrow]

2 Arjos (Riedquat, Gaius Scribonius Curio,
2 Lazy McCrow (Montmorency, Makrell
2 Makrell (Darth Feather, BSmith

1 Elite Ferret (edse,
1 Darth Feather (Rickinator9,
1 Riedquat (Elite Ferret,
1 Gaius Scribonius Curio (Arjos,
1 Ishmael (Lazy McCrow,
1 autolycus (Ishmael,
1 Rickinator9 (B_Ray,

[robbiecon]

vote : rickinator, I'm never gonna give you up.

[Jarema]

46 minutes of day remain

[Arjos]

Here's my proposal: deathmatch, four men enter a cage, one metal spoon is dropped inside and one man survives XD

[Jarema]

Tally:
2 Arjos (Riedquat, Gaius Scribonius Curio)
2 Lazy McCrow (Montmorency, Makrell)
2 Makrell (Darth Feather, BSmith)
2 Rickinator9 (B_Ray, Robbiecon)

1 Elite Ferret (edse)
1 Darth Feather (Rickinator9)
1 Riedquat (Elite Ferret)
1 Gaius Scribonius Curio (Arjos)
1 Ishmael (Lazy McCrow)
1 autolycus (Ishmael)

NOT VOTING: Autolycus

Due to four-way tie, special measures had to be taken.
RNG Gods were asked for augury.
And...
I did not described what will happen in case of tie, so I can decide now. I think that in this special situation of 4-way tie, I will announce:
OVERTIME!

[Jarema]

I do not want to go so much random, so that is what I decided:
Vote's counts are reset now.
please vote for Arjos, LazyMcrow, Makrell or Rickinator. Only for them.

Lynch will happen at the very moment when one of them collects 3 votes or after 24 hours.


Please feel free to pm me night orders in advance if you want to (it is unknown when night will begin)

EDIT: if, after 24 hours, there would be tie, I will RNG result

[Darth Feather]

Lets stick to my original vote: vote: Makrell

[B-Wing]

Likewise.
vote: Rickinator

[LazyMcCrow]

RNG says '2' - Stuck in the middle with vote: Makrell

[Ishmael]

vote: Arjos. I can never tell if you're scum, so let's knock you out early (Lazy McCrow, you came in a close second by that reasoning :beam:).

[Jarema]

Makrell: 2 (Darth Feather, LazyMcCrow)
Rickinator: (B_Ray)
Arjos: (Ishmael)

[Ferret]

vote:Rickinator

[robbiecon]

I will do something I normally don't do, hammer a lynch. I'll also change person. Vote: Makrell

[Montmorency]

NOOOOOO

BWEEASE DONT VOTE HIM

Vote: Robbiecon

[Riedquat]

NOOOOOO

BWEEASE DONT VOTE HIM

Vote: Robbiecon

ehh.... no, you are supposed to vote for one of the tied before!

And certainly random gods dont like Arjos this game. Vote: Arjos

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

Vote: Lazy McCrow

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

Sorry - didn't read Jarema's actual wording well enough it seems:

Lynch will happen at the very moment when one of them collects 3 votes or after 24 hours.

Tally at 11.19 am (my time - so 00.19 GMT)

Makrell - 3 (Darth Feather; Lazy McCrow; Robbiecon)
Rickinator - 2 (B_ray; Elite Ferret)
Arjos - 1 (Ishmael)
Lazy McCrow - 0

Looks like Makrell is gone...

[Jarema]

I will do something I normally don't do, hammer a lynch. I'll also change person. Vote: Makrell

Makrell: 3 (Darth Feather, LazyMcCrow, Robbiecon)
Rickinator: (B_Ray)
Arjos: (Ishmael)

Lynch happened at this moment.
Makrell was member of mafia. He was role-stealer
Night starts. It will last 24 hours (and 23 minutes) from now

[Arjos]

lol nice one XD

Sorry, but this extention happened while I was asleep :S
I also have no idea, who I would've voted for, so maybe it was for the best like this ahahahahah

[Ishmael]

Nice work guys :beam:.

[edse]

"I'm going down to Lucky Town"

Mafiosi die early these days.

[LazyMcCrow]

Thankyou RNG!:hail:

[Darth Feather]

Random. org is allways right. :2thumbsup:

Wonder why Makrell didn't quickly jump to rickinator to kill him.

[Ishmael]

Random. org is allways right. :2thumbsup:

Wonder why Makrell didn't quickly jump to rickinator to kill him.

They're both scum! Kill em' all!

...or maybe he just wasn't online at the time. Either one.

[Darth Feather]

"I'm going down to Lucky Town"

Mafiosi die early these days.

True that. In the palace, Nightbringer died day one. In Chemistry mafia Jarema died day 1. In Choose your own adventure mafia, I died Night 1. And in Visor's game over at TWC I died Day 1. Mafia don't tend to survive the first cycles.:bounce:

[robbiecon]

Well, that worked out well, pity I'm probably a dead man now though...

[rickinator9]

Well, that worked out well, pity I'm probably a dead man now though...

I wouldn't do anything against you. You saved me!

[Darth Feather]

Another thing: I put my fos towards Elite Ferret. I know he could as well be a townie, or someone who got Rickinator from random.org, but I've got a bad feeling about him.

He did tie Rickinator with Makrell. Am I right? :hide:

[Jarema]

At the begining of second day, body of one of the most important citizens was found. It seems he was shot.
LazyMcCrow was innocent. He was a policeman

Day 2 begins. It will last 48 hours. In case of 'normal' (2-way) tie, I will randomize result. In case of multi-tie (3 or more people) I will do what I have done at day 1.

[rickinator9]

Vote: Montmorency

You voted for LazyMcCrow in the first round and later you begged for your 'friend' not to be lynched, sounds guilty to me.

[Darth Feather]

Vote: Montmorency

You voted for LazyMcCrow in the first round and later you begged for your 'friend' not to be lynched, sounds guilty to me.

IMHO a little bit too obvious. vote: Elite Ferret due to my earlier post. If someone has a better case I might still change my opinion.

[Arjos]

With both votes absent any justification and indeed tying Makrell with ricki, I'd say DF's case is the only reasonable one so early in the game...

Vote: Elite Ferret

Also about Monty, that is how he rolls, treat his comments with a pinch of salt. It has of course happened with him as mafia aswell, but so obvious and with such an incriminating kill, seems an attempt to framing...
Besides should any other suspect not be available, there would be a go-to-guy ready :P

[LazyMcCrow]

No massive shock there I guess - my random vote on Makrell pretty much labelled me town, but damn. I was a policeman! - I don't even know what that means yet!

Anyway - Gaius and Robbiecon get FoS'd for the way they voted day one, but Elite Ferret also sounds a decent enough bet - probably too obvious as well at this stage of the game. we'll see

In other news, I think I'm going to take Jarema up on his offer of 'the red pill' - so you probably won't be hearing anything from me again in this thread. Good luck town.

:bow:

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

I think we may be barking up the wrong tree with Elite Ferret - Vote: Rickinator for now...

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

Just to further clarify - EF hasn't really done anything aside from not vote for Makrell: he may have been trying to save him, he equally well may not have. I know that I randomly chose Lazy because, in R1, I had nothing else to choose between the candidates on and one runaway candidate is less interesting and revealing.

I have noticed a pattern with Monty behaving deliberately provocatively - I'd leave him for now.

Finally, just because Makrell was mafia, doesn't mean Rickinator isn't. He didn't vote for him in either round (the second, perhaps due to time). Really there is very little to choose a viable lynch candidate from at this stage - pretending that there is just allows mafiosi to make easy decisions...

[Darth Feather]

Just to further clarify - EF hasn't really done anything aside from not vote for Makrell: he may have been trying to save him, he equally well may not have. I know that I randomly chose Lazy because, in R1, I had nothing else to choose between the candidates on and one runaway candidate is less interesting and revealing.


I never said otherwise


I know he could as well be a townie, or someone who got Rickinator from random.org, but I've got a bad feeling about him.


And I didn't say Rickinator was innocent either. I even alluded he might be guilty when I was wondering why Makrell didn't jump to rickinator (There is a perfectly logical other explaination for it: he might not have been online.)

TBH I think the case on Rickinator is even weaker than mine on EF. So the vote stays.

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

Fair enough - it was only a general observation.

I'd just advise strongly against any large-scale bandwagons at such an early stage - when there is little evidence along with a plethora of potentially dangerous roles. While you were the first to raise a perfectly valid point, I can see this one running away...

[Ishmael]

Well, that worked out well, pity I'm probably a dead man now though...

It's a shame, really; I was going to vote for you for making it a four way tie last day phase, but then I realised that you put the deciding vote on Makrell. There goes my only lead.

I tend to agree with Gaius Scribonius that runaway bandwagons are not in our best interest at the moment, so I'll vote: rickinator to even things up a bit. This vote is provisional if somebody has received useful night results, but I can't see that any substantive case can be made from in-thread behaviour yet.

[B-Wing]

vote: Montmorency

He voted for the same person as Makrell prior to the tie. And then pseudo-defends Mak once his fate is sealed. Weird move, but why else would he do it?

[Ferret]

With both votes absent any justification and indeed tying Makrell with ricki, I'd say DF's case is the only reasonable one so early in the game...

Vote: Elite Ferret

I admit the case on me is probably as good as it gets at this stage of the game, but it's still terrible. I would have thought that having been part of a scum team with me before you'd know I wouldn't make a move like that.

vote:Arjos

I feel like if you were a townie you wouldn't go for this case but if you were mafia you'd be happy to go along with it knowing that it is against a townie. That and you are ALWAYS mafia. :clown:

[Montmorency]

The cases on EF, Montmorency, and Arjos are non-existent. Why would I kill Crow when I could kill everyone else instead?

Rick is scum for confronting me. I'll take him to the grave if its the last thing I do.

Vote: Rickinator

[edse]

The cases on EF, Montmorency, and Arjos are non-existent. Why would I kill Crow when I could kill everyone else instead?

Rick is scum for confronting me. I'll take him to the grave if its the last thing I do.

Vote: Rickinator

Sounds sound. Vote: Rickinator

[Darth Feather]

Third one on the bandwagon, right :bounce:tos: edse

I am way too suspicious. Not everything is something.

[Arjos]

The cases on EF, Montmorency, and Arjos are non-existent.

EF tying mafia Makrell, giving him a chance to survive isn't a case?

Ricki obviously doesn't know your style, which warrants attention to those unaware of it, this counter-wagon is ridiculous...


Third one on the bandwagon, right :bounce:tos: edse

I am way too suspicious. Not everything is something.

And edse is the fourth :P

[edse]

Damn, I thought I was the second...

I don't want rickinator9 to die :(

Unvote: Vote: Elite Ferret

[Ferret]

What happened to 'sounds sound'?

That post is just so very scummy...

[Riedquat]

I think all cases are utter crap. Random org says again 7, who was Arjos while Makrell was alive, without Makrell seven is Monty... ~:rolleyes: No, I won't do that, instead Vote: EF

[Jarema]

Because someone asked me:

policeman role = cop role = scanner. At night, learns if target is scum (i. e. mafia, cult, serial killer or other similar third party) or not. Can be sane (correct scan results), insane (scum scanned as innocent, innocent as scum), paranoid (all results = scum), naive (all results = innocent), or macho (when protected, scan does not work)

some roles may interfere with it (godfather, while mafia, will scan as town; framer will make someone scan as scum, and so on)

[autolycus]

I have marginal circumstantial evidence that EF is innocent. I targeted him successfully last night with no additional message. This means I may have roleblocked him on a night when a kill happened.

Therefore, I will vote for the other major candidate:

vote:rickinator

[Darth Feather]

Therefore, I will vote for the other major candidate:

vote:rickinator

You could have tried to vig him, while he was protected, or protected him, or nobody visited him, or something. But in fact you are right, it is marginal circumstatial evidence. I am almost tempted to switch my vote to someone else.

[Montmorency]

Autolycus will die next?

The eye wink at the hand, yet let it be.
Which the eye fears, when it is done, to see.

I don't have a style, Mr. Par-for-the-jos. I'll be watching you...

[Jarema]

near-to middday update (26 hours and few minutes left)

lynch tally:
Elite Ferret (4): Darth Feather. Arjos, Edse, Riedquat
Rickinator (4): Gaius, Ishmael, Montmorency, Autolycus
Montmorency (2): Rickinator, B_Ray
Arjos: Elite Ferret

[robbiecon]

NOOOOOO

BWEEASE DONT VOTE HIM

Vote: Robbiecon

This was Montmorencys reaction to me hammering the makrell lynch, surely we should give it a little more attention.

Vote: Montmorency

As for elite ferret, I think its an acceptable lynch, as he was quite dismissive in the manner he voted rickinator in the overtime period.

[rickinator9]

Let's make sure there's no tie. unvote; vote: Elite Ferret

[Darth Feather]

Let's make sure there's no tie. unvote; vote: Elite Ferret

Why not? Ties support discussion.
I would vote you now, but as the day is over: fos: Rickinator.

[Ferret]

FoS: Arjos and Rickinator

[Jarema]

lynch tally:
Elite Ferret (5): Darth Feather. Arjos, Edse, Riedquat, Rickinator
Rickinator (4): Gaius, Ishmael, Montmorency, Autolycus
Montmorency (2): B_Ray, Robbiecon
Arjos: Elite Ferret

Not voting:???

Elite Ferret has been lynched.
Elite Ferret was innocent. He was a village fool (can inform one person about his innocence at night)

Night 2 begins

EDIT: I see now I ommited description of this role from opening post. I have no idea how it could happen. Sorry, I added it to the list.

[rickinator9]

Why not? Ties support discussion.
I would vote you now, but as the day is over: fos: Rickinator.

The random number generator has never worked really well for me. Besides, I'm also not feeling very lucky at the moment(Just found out my wisdom teeth are becoming a problem).

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

I understand why one would vote to save theirself - I don't understand why they would claim that it was to 'prevent a tie'. It speaks of caution - caution usually unwarranted in such a situation where there is no evidence either way...

[Jarema]

No one died tonight.
Day 3 begins. It will last 48 hours (and few minutes)

[edse]

That late vote by rickinator doesn't look good.

Vote: rickinator9

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

I concur - together with my last post enough to warrant a Vote: Rickinator

[Darth Feather]

I concur - together with my last post enough to warrant a Vote: Rickinator

I don't know about that vote. I have a strong suspicion against rickinator but I don't think it is a good idea to have a runaway bandwagon. I am going to vote: edse; The reason being the vote from yesterday, when he first bandwagonned on Rickinator, because he confronted Montmorency on his (scummy) post. When you realize Rickinator is in the lead, you suddenly decide it is doesn't sound soud anymore and you swap to Elite Ferret. Now it was clear rickinator would be the main lynch candidate (due to his last post) so you start the bandwagon. I know it is circumstatial evidence and the case is not that strong, but still...

And this kind of behaviour looks way to much like mine during the palace. (where I was Parchezzi V)

[Ishmael]

lynch tally:
Elite Ferret (5): Darth Feather. Arjos, Edse, Riedquat, Rickinator
Rickinator (4): Gaius, Ishmael, Montmorency, Autolycus
Montmorency (2): B_Ray, Robbiecon
Arjos: Elite Ferret

Elite Ferret has been lynched.
Elite Ferret was innocent. He was a village fool (can inform one person about his innocence at night)

Night 2 begins

EDIT: I see now I ommited description of this role from opening post. I have no idea how it could happen. Sorry, I added it to the list.

Did everybody vote in that phase, or were non-voters excluded from the tally? I thought I might cross-reference non-voters from the previous phase considering the lack of a kill, but if there were none that obviously won't work. Or do the mafia only get a power role and not a 'free' kill as well?

As for immediate voting - rickinator's been acting scummily, so lets just kill him now so we can get on to other suspects. Otherwise he'll just be distracting the town and splitting the vote for the rest of the game.

vote: rickinator9

[Arjos]

Vote: rickinator9, at least yesterday's voters get their money's worth :D

[Montmorency]

Which one a' you palookas protected autolycus?

Vote: Arjos

[rickinator9]

Yeah, who protected Arjos? Vote: Ismael

I'm dead anyway.

[Arjos]

Hmm would these two really claim their night attempts, if they were mafia?

I can see the fiendishly alibi ploy, but I'm creative :P

Unvote;

[Jarema]

Did everybody vote in that phase, or were non-voters excluded from the tally?

I added them (him) now

[Darth Feather]

Huh, I am twice in the Tally. I voted EF. I even started the case on him.

[Arjos]

Vote: edse

[Jarema]

ok, I got something wrong. I believe one person did not vote, but I am too drunk now to determinate who it was

[Riedquat]

I added them (him) now

:inquisitive: He is voting and not voting at same time, didn't you mean Bsmith?

[autolycus]

This is interesting. Rickinator9, why do you think someone protected Arjos? I found out that a vampire bit Arjos last night. Since the vampire bite is a recruit over two nights and the vampire knows that he/she is that, it seems likely that he/she bit the same person twice in a row, in which case Arjos is now a vampire.

Vote: Arjos

[Riedquat]

Vote: Arjos

[Arjos]

I haven't received any PM about that and as for last night, I'm likely to be a commuter, so probably would've died tonight anyway :P

[BSmith]

I didn't vote Yesterday. Sounds like I was the only one. I was traveling for work and just didn't have the time to post.

vote: arjos I don't like the sound of vampires.

It might be helpful in figuring out roles if people that got unexpected results speak up about them.

[rickinator9]

This is interesting. Rickinator9, why do you think someone protected Arjos?

I was kidding following the 'too obvious' post by Montmorency. I chose Arjos because we're in this Interactive game together.

[Arjos]

After the reveal, keep an eye on autolycus, because he lied :P

[rickinator9]

After the reveal, keep an eye on autolycus, because he lied :P

We'll see after the reveal then.

[Darth Feather]

After the reveal, keep an eye on autolycus, because he lied :P

you might be able to be a vampire without you knowing. Still, I am not going to unvote. You are going to die anyway, and edse acted scummy IMO.

[autolycus]

Got a clarification on last night from Jarema. The information I got was a scan of status, not a scan of what happened that night. Arjos was bitten night one and protected night 2.

Unvote, vote: rickinator9.

[Riedquat]

But Arjos still can become a vamp...

[B-Wing]

Vote: rickinator again for now. But FoS: autolycus. How can you receive a status update from a previous night round?

[rickinator9]

unvote; vote: Autolycus

He must be a vampire, how else must he have known that Arjos was bitten.

[B-Wing]

He could be the vampire hunter now that I think of it.

Vampire hunter: you can target one player. If he is vampire, you will learn about it. If he has been bite by vampire, you will learn about it. Person whom you have chosen as a target is protected against vampire bite during this night. You are immune to vampire attacks

[Montmorency]

Unvote: Arjos

Rickinator is a poor lynch, surely.

Autolycus is either a vamp or a vamp-hunter?


I have marginal circumstantial evidence that EF is innocent. I targeted him successfully last night with no additional message. This means I may have roleblocked him on a night when a kill happened.

Alright.

Arjos, why do you think you are a commuter?

[autolycus]

Vote: rickinator again for now. But FoS: autolycus. How can you receive a status update from a previous night round?

I got a results message at the end of last night that my first post was about. Jarema saw that I had read it differently from the way he intended it, and sent me a message clarifying.

[Arjos]

Arjos, why do you think you are a commuter?

Because my ability can't use a target/s and last night I figured that out, got a "successful PM" and apparently someone attacked/targeted me...

[Darth Feather]

unvote; vote: Autolycus

He must be a vampire, how else must he have known that Arjos was bitten.

That would not be a smart move, if he were. In fact I think you are the vampire, trying to kill the hunter. You even make me unvote;vote rickinator9
Next day I will be back for edse. :yes:

[Montmorency]

Why couldn't you be a lightning rod?

[Arjos]

That's the other possibility yes :)

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

Because my ability can't use a target/s and last night I figured that out, got a "successful PM" and apparently someone attacked/targeted me...

Given that there was no kill last night and you successfully used your ability and others discovered that you got bitten - maybe you are the 'lightning rod'.

This would suggest that Arjos attracted all activity - attacks, protection, scans, bites, protection from bites...

It would also suggest his innocence.

It would also suggest that Rickinator did indeed know that he was protected - suggesting that he failed to kill him...

Edit: too late.

[Arjos]

Well if town would spare me and protect me tonight, every 2 phases I can cause that ruckus and avoid any killing ^^

[Darth Feather]

Given that there was no kill last night and you successfully used your ability and others discovered that you got bitten - maybe you are the 'lightning rod'.

This would suggest that Arjos attracted all activity - attacks, protection, scans, bites, protection from bites...

It would also suggest his innocence.

It would also suggest that Rickinator did indeed know that he was protected - suggesting that he failed to kill him...

Edit: too late.

So what you are saying is: DIE, RICKINATOR, UNDEAD SCUM.

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

If I were a stronger willed individual I may say: DIE RICKINATOR, POSSIBLY UNDEAD SCUM. :wink:

But I am not - I content myself with saying that it seems probable that he has the ability to kill and was thwarted by Arjos' action last night...

[Arjos]

Tally:

rickinator9 - 6 (Darth Feather, autolycus, B_Ray, Ishmael, Gaius Scribonius Curio, edse)
Arjos - 2 (BSmith, Riedquat)
autolycus - 1 (rickinator9)
edse - 1 (Arjos)

Not Voting - 2 (Montmorency, robbiecon)

Point out any mistake please :)

[robbiecon]

I think arjos may well be the lightning rod, the logic seems to add up. Rickinator's pretty doomed, so I will continue with my line of intent and Vote: Montmorency whose reaction to the makrell lynch still remains scummy in my eyes.

[Darth Feather]

Autolycus, did you target Arjos, or did you target someone else and he just used his lightning ability?

[autolycus]

I did not target Arjos.

[Darth Feather]

I did not target Arjos.

This backs arjos' claim up nicely. So the vampire is probably going for Arjos tonight, in case he is not Rickinator.

[Montmorency]

I think arjos may well be the lightning rod, the logic seems to add up. Rickinator's pretty doomed, so I will continue with my line of intent and Vote: Montmorency whose reaction to the makrell lynch still remains scummy in my eyes.

YOU MUST DIE

[Jarema]

Tally:

rickinator9 - 6 (Darth Feather, autolycus, B_Ray, Ishmael, Gaius Scribonius Curio, edse)
Arjos - 2 (BSmith, Riedquat)
autolycus - 1 (rickinator9)
edse - 1 (Arjos)
Montmorency- 1 (Robbiecon)

Not Voting - 1 (Montmorency)

Rickinator9 has been lynched
Rickinator was a Vampire!
Night 3 begins

[Montmorency]

Yeah, the truth is that I'm the backup vampire.

Curse you warm-skins!

[Darth Feather]

The lynches are going steady. 2/3 correct lynches is nice.

[rickinator9]

The lynches are going steady. 2/3 correct lynches is nice.

So killing another race is correct huh? FoS we have a racist over here!

[Darth Feather]

I have a feeling you were already dead before the lynch. So technically we wouldn't be able to kill you. :bomb: (I count not having a heartbeat as dead.)

[Jarema]

Arjos and Autolycus were killed during night
Arjos was a lightning rod. He was innocent
Autolycus was a vampire hunter. He was innocent

Day 4 begins

It is last day that will be long for 48 hours

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

Vote: edse

...on a hunch.

[Arjos]

Wow thanks a bunch, whoever has the protecting role -_-

[edse]

Vote: edse

...on a hunch.

Just like last game eh? I'm not falling for the same trick again. I will not react the slighest to this post of yours this time.

I think at least one mafia was voting for rickinator9. Darth Feather, (autolycus), B_Ray, Ishmael, Gaius Scribonius Curio, edse Deleting some of us from the list because of non-mafia behaviour gives me B_Ray or Ishmael. Vote: Ishmael for acting more townie.

[rickinator9]

autolycus: How did you know you needed to protect Arjos? Luck?

[Ishmael]

Vote: Ishmael for acting more townie.

:laugh4:

Thanks, I guess.

vote: B_Ray, by your same reasoning. I'd also keep Gaius on the list, but I can't recall playing with him before and don't really know his style.

[Arjos]

How did you know you needed to protect Arjos? Luck?

I was the lightning rod, I brought all night actions on myself, so everyone attacked and protected me at the same time...

Obviously tonight I couldn't use it and we saw the results lol

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

Unvote: edse

An entirely reasonable response. Depending on many mafiosi are left I'm not sure that we definitely have one among those voting for rickinator, though it seems likely. Undecided at this point.

B_Ray: anything to say?

[Darth Feather]

Just like last game eh? I'm not falling for the same trick again. I will not react the slighest to this post of yours this time.

I think at least one mafia was voting for rickinator9. Darth Feather, (autolycus), B_Ray, Ishmael, Gaius Scribonius Curio, edse Deleting some of us from the list because of non-mafia behaviour gives me B_Ray or Ishmael. Vote: Ishmael for acting more townie.

Not convinced. I think B_Ray is at least as scummy as Ishmael. Due to your scummy behaviour in day before yesterday I am going to vote: edse. If someone can think of a better case or can give soem conclusive evidence (or if someone starts acting scummy) I can still unvote.

[Darth Feather]

Actually, in hindsight, maybe edse's behaviour was not that scummy. I even posted I was seeing non-existent things. unvote

Let's try to vote: B_Ray

(oh yeah, and a :balloon: for GSC for making his 1000th post.)

[Riedquat]

Where is everybody? Not discussion at all? Nada? I must agree with edse about Ishmael's post, he is being more townie than when he is townie but same can be said of you DF or you didn't note it in yourself? I think it is due the uncertainly of what we are more than anything else. I propose we look for scuminess and not townieness for now...

Having said that and looking back at my performance in all games probably edse, Ishmael, B_Ray and DF are scum... fos all of you for acting weird!

[Darth Feather]

Still FOUR scum alive with already one down and a SK-ish role down as well.

Not likely.

For now fos: Riedquat

And I am monitoring the thread, but I can't keep replying to myself.

[Ishmael]

And I am monitoring the thread, but I can't keep replying to myself.

Personally, I have nothing to contribute at this point apart from one of my patented hilariously inaccurate in-thread behaviour analyses.

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

Patently hilarious is what we need - it may promote a bit more discussion. If not, hey you will have tried...

Just to test the waters - anyone have any actual information regarding roles/affiliations that may be useful? Or is it too early?

[robbiecon]

Vote: Montmorency, it is YOU that must die my good sir.

[Riedquat]

And I am monitoring the thread, but I can't keep replying to myself.

You could try! :clown:

[Darth Feather]

You could try! :clown:

I guess I could. But that would result in some major spam and me behaving like a scyzophrenic maniac :crazy: (which is not my role BTW)

[Darth Feather]

Come on people, we only have four votes. We should do a little better.:rtwno:
I am not entirely convinced in the case against B_Ray, but if people keep not-voting, he is going to be lynched by two votes (which would be kinda stupid.)
If there are no more people voting by the end of the day...............







the town is doomed for sure.

[Riedquat]

Come on people, we only have four votes. We should do a little better.:rtwno:
I am not entirely convinced in the case against B_Ray, but if people keep not-voting, he is going to be lynched by two votes (which would be kinda stupid.)

Agree!

I can't see the case against B_Ray at all... :thinking:

[edse]

Tally.

2 B_Ray: Ishmael, Darth Feather
1 Ishmael: edse
1 Montmorency: robbiecon

5 No Vote: Gaius, Montmorency, Riedquat, B_Ray, BSmith

[Darth Feather]

Just to encourage discussion and create a tie: unvote; vote: BSmith for not contributing a lot.

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

Vote: robbiecon

...since I am unconvinced that hammering away at Montmorency is not some sort of double-bluff. (As well as to promote discussion).

[Darth Feather]

Personnally I think Robbiecon is the least likely suspect. He lynched Makrell. If he were scum, he should just have stuck to his vote and voted Rickinator. (does that sound somewhat logical? :inquisitive:

[BSmith]

Just to encourage discussion and create a tie: unvote; vote: BSmith for not contributing a lot.

Yeah, I suppose I deserve that. I haven’t been too talkative. I have been trying to figure out what my role is though. It is either really useless, or really important. One more thing to try tonight and I should have a pretty good idea which one.

Anyway… While I wasn’t able to vote in time for the actual Makrell lynch (wasn’t online before the 3rd vote was placed), I did put the tying vote on him getting him to the finals. Not something I’d likely do if I were scum, especially as there was already a tie between two others at the time.

Looking at that voting phase, you (Darth Feather) also voted for him, and repeated your vote in the tying phase, making it pretty likely you are not on his team either. Lazy was the second vote, and Robbiecon the third and deciding vote. Now unless that was a masterful act of bussing, I doubt he is in cahoots with Makrell.

So that leaves the following suspects:

1. Ishmael
5. Riedquat
6. Edse
8. Montmorency
9. Gaius Scribonius Curio
11. B_Ray

Of these I am going to go with vote: Gaius. Not too much in thread to go on, but his vote for Robbie is somewhat scummy based on the above reasoning.

[Jarema]

just a reminder:

In case of 'normal' (2-way) tie, I will randomize result. In case of multi-tie (3 or more people) I will do what I have done at day 1.

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

Personnally I think Robbiecon is the least likely suspect. He lynched Makrell. If he were scum, he should just have stuck to his vote and voted Rickinator. (does that sound somewhat logical? :inquisitive:

What you are saying makes perfect sense... I apologise - I wasn't really thinking (it was very early morning). Unvote: Robbiecon.

I will give this further thought...

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

Kind of shocked that I can come back after 9 hours and no-one has commented...

Vote: B_Ray

He is a legitimate suspect and a five-way one-vote tie, triggering another round of voting (in which those who have voted already will vote again), is just ridiculous and ineffective.

[Darth Feather]

Well Then I think he should be lynched wholeheartedly. uvote; vote:B_Ray

I don't think you are guilty, Gaius (not getting the "scum-vibe"), and B_Ray is equally suspect as any of the other candidates.

[Jarema]

Tally.

3 B_Ray: Ishmael, Gaius, Darth Feather
1 Ishmael: edse
1 Montmorency: robbiecon
1 Gaius: BSmith

4 No Vote: Montmorency, Riedquat, B_Ray, BSmith

B_Ray was killed.
He was mafia roleblocker

Night 4 begins

[Darth Feather]

He was B_Ray



You've got to be kidding B_Ray being B_Ray? Not realistic :laugh4:

[Ishmael]

B_Ray was killed.
He was B_Ray


Umm....

EDIT: Oh wait, it says in the second post that he was a mafia roleblocker.

[Darth Feather]

This mostly clears you and GSC. Furthermore, Robbiecon is most likely innocent as well. So remaining suspects are

BSmith. (kinda innactive: no real info)
Riedquat (behaved scummy by saying there were still four scum alive)
Montmorency (behaved superscummy on day 1 but seems to do so often)
edse (still not reallly convinced even though there was townie behaviour this round and he accused B_Ray as well)

As it is night, we can't vote but fos: Riedquat and BSmith

[Riedquat]

This mostly clears you and GSC. Furthermore, Robbiecon is most likely innocent as well. So remaining suspects are

BSmith. (kinda innactive: no real info)
Riedquat (behaved scummy by saying there were still four scum alive)
Montmorency (behaved superscummy on day 1 but seems to do so often)
edse (still not reallly convinced even though there was townie behaviour this round and he accused B_Ray as well)

As it is night, we can't vote but fos: Riedquat and BSmith

You understood what you wanted, I never said that... :inquisitive:
But really understand why I'm in that list...

[Darth Feather]

I misread BSmiths post. He did indeed put a vote on Makrell. He is still a suspect but not a main one. If I had to guess, I would say Montmorency or Riedquat.

[Riedquat]

I misread BSmiths post. He did indeed put a vote on Makrell. He is still a suspect but not a main one. If I had to guess, I would say Montmorency or Riedquat.

umm... I'm dancing to the compass from someone else's music and it's my own fault... Lets suppose in the morning I'm a proven dead townie, who would you suspect of then?

[Darth Feather]

Montmorency. If he is dead as well, I will probably go back to edse and BSmith.

EDIT: I just thought of something: if one of the scum is a Yakuza we are screwed.

[autolycus]

Why are we screwed, DF?

Also, yay!!! The scum should never have killed me. I was the least threat to them of anyone :)

[Darth Feather]

Because if one of the scum is Yakuza, we can start all over again. They could just Yak and name another scum.

[Montmorency]

1. Yakuza - once per game, you can 'yak': you commit suicide, and your target becomes mafia. if you are protected while 'yakking' you survive.

It's a one-time thing. I should know. :mellow:

[Darth Feather]

Sooooooooo, You are yakuza?

[Ishmael]

Sooooooooo, You are yakuza?

Of course not, he was yakuzed. Keep up with the script :beam:.

[Jarema]

Edse and Riedquat were killed
Edse was innocent. He was a jailkeeper
Riedquat was innocent. He was a cpr doctor

Day 5 begins. It will last 25 hours.

[Riedquat]

Wow... how on earth happened that?:inquisitive:

[Montmorency]

1. Vengeful killer: you are a killer with night-kill immunity. If you are attacking someone who voted for you last day (only final vote counts if that player changed his vote during day), then you can kill through protection.
2. Ninja: you are a killer who is invisible (you will not be seen as visiting someone), untrackable (appears to be sitting at his home), unblockable, & scans as average townie. In other words, immune to abilities of: tracker, watcher, roleblocker, policeman, and roles based on those (like jailkeeper).
3. Electro Maniac: you are a killer with special killing method. You can pick a player every night. That player becomes charged with electricity. If your target is already charged, you will electrocute and kill him on your next visit. Charging bypasses doctors and bodyguards, but not protector. If a charged player visits another person who is also charged, they both become electrocuted and die. This can happen as early as second night (when second victim is picked by you). This effect bypasses doctors and bodyguards, and also protectors. You are immune to electricity yourself. If someone roleblocks you, scans you, curse you, or silences you, he becomes charged with electricity. Charged players will not know that they are charged.
4. Bomber: you are a killer with special killing method. As a night action, pick a player. From now, this player is carrying a bomb. Giving player a bomb bypasses doctors and bodyguards, but not protector. As a night action, you can blow up all players with bombs. This bypasses doctors and bodyguards, and also protectors. Players with bombs will not know that they are carrying a bomb.

Mafia aren't the only game left in town.

Vote: Robbiecon

No solicitors.

[Riedquat]

Mafia aren't the only game left in town.

Vote: Robbiecon

No solicitors.

Can you explain your fixation with robbiecon?

[Montmorency]

He's fixated on me. Also, he's probably a killer.

[robbiecon]

I have not carried out my action at all since working out what it was, as I did not deem it worthwhile. I am the Amor, who can make a link with another player. But I guessed it would probably kill both of us if we were targeted and seemed to provide no benefits.

[Montmorency]

Oh, very well.

Unvote;

Gaius is innocent.

Vote: BSmith

[Darth Feather]

vote: montmorency Either you are scum with steel nerves or you are innocent. Problem is, if you are innocent I don't really know who is scum.

[Darth Feather]

Wow... how on earth happened that?:inquisitive:

Did you protect someone?


f. CPR doctor (can protect one character against attack at night; cannot protect himself ; if protected character is not attacked, he dies)

Does that mean the doctor dies or the protected character dies? Because if it is the doctor, that would answer your question

[edse]

Did you protect someone?

He's not allowed to answer that question.

[Darth Feather]

He's not allowed to answer that question.

Forgot about that. Thanks edse.

[Darth Feather]

Wait, I announced i would vote for montmorency when Riedquat died. That sounds like a frame job to me. unvote

Who will I vote for then? Hmmmmm let's sleep over it.

[Montmorency]

I assure you that my nerves are quite weak.

[Ishmael]

vote: Montmorency, essentially by process of elimination based on who has previously voted for scum. If this doesn't work, lynch robbiecon. I guarantee at least one of the two is a killer.

Note: Failure of guarantee not redeemable for any monetary or other compenstion.

[Riedquat]

He's not allowed to answer that question.

But I can say something like matanga dijo la chancha and get him thinking!


Gaius is innocent.

Interesting...


Wait, I announced i would vote for montmorency when Riedquat died. That sounds like a frame job to me.

:inquisitive::inquisitive: I've a question for you DF, what do you suppose is your role?

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

Vote: Ishmael

I do not think that Montmorency is Mafia - although I could be wrong.

I am innocent - obviously - and, as stated, previous voting renders Darth Feather and Robbiecon unlikely. That leaves BSmith and Ishmael - and based on behaviour I lean towards the latter...

[Jarema]

Does that mean the doctor dies or the protected character dies? Because if it is the doctor, that would answer your question

When CPR doctor protects person X, and person X is attacked, then person X survives.

When CPR doctor protects person X, and person X is not attacked, then person X dies.

[Darth Feather]

:inquisitive::inquisitive: I've a question for you DF, what do you suppose is your role?

I am quite certain I am a curious guy.
I have been visited only once, by Ishmael on N3

This *probably* means he is innocent. I also think it was strange he voted for B_Ray. He could just as easily say he thought edse was scum.

[Ishmael]

I am quite certain I am a curious guy.
I have been visited only once, by Ishmael on N3

This *probably* means he is innocent. I also think it was strange he voted for B_Ray. He could just as easily say he thought edse was scum.

I figure I should corroborate this. He's telling the truth, folks.

EDIT: I feel I should be saying more in today's discussion, but I've really got nothing apart from gut feel and voting records to make my case at the moment. With that said, the two combined make me almost certain that one of Montmorency and robbiecon is scum, most likely the former (if there is only one scum left).

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

On the basis of the information provided -Unvote: Ishmael; Vote: Montmorency.

That seems pretty compelling...

[Darth Feather]

Montmorency is the only guy alive who didn't vote for a mafia. So either there is a third party role or montmorency is scum. vote: Montmorency.

[Montmorency]

Meh - a few observations:

*The likelihood of an SK/3rd-party killer is high, especially given that no-one has stepped forth to claim Vig

*Accepting the possibility of a second killer, we find that it's a LYLO situation; not to lynch a killer now leads to a 3-way with two killers in the mix

*Accepting the preceding premise, we find that it would have been easiest for me to simply lurk all day, as I was not a top-suspect

*Anyway, what's worse than that is that I haven't voted at all in the previous two days

*In post 74, the scumbag BRay put a second-vote on me

*Robbie claims Amor

*DF claims Curious Guy

*I have soft-claimed Monkey a couple of posts above; N1 was a mis-target, N2 I learned of Arjos, N3 I learned of Edse, and N4 I learned of Gaius

*Isn't it time we did the full-reveal thing? What exactly are you, Ishmael? BSmith?

*Gaius should go ahead and reveal as well, for whatever benefit it may provide



So there. I'm sticking to my vote on BSmith. And once you see that he's a killer, well...

[Darth Feather]

Especially B_Ray's post makes me believe you, i looked over it.

You seem to be right. There is probably a serial killer/third party role.

To avoid a quick mislynch unvote

There might be one killer though. My gues would be a spree killer. Suppose edse targetted Riedquat as a jailkeeper. The spree killer targets riedquats house. There are two deaths. Could that be it? Otherwise, It could be a bomber who just last night blew up all bombs. That would mean we are quite safe this night. An electrocuter is not likely because: suppose he electrocuted riedquat night 1. Night 2 Arjos used his lightning ability so he could not kill that one. He targets Arjos. Suppose next night, the scum kill Autolycus and the electrocuter killed Arjos. Then next night he could have elektrocuted riedquat. He would still be one night behind and not be able to kill edse. Vengefull killer and ninja is unlikely because they could never kill twice. If he is a vile amor, he is probably no more able to kill. These were my two cents.

[Darth Feather]

*I have soft-claimed Monkey a couple of posts above; N1 was a mis-target, N2 I learned of Arjos, N3 I learned of Edse, and N4 I learned of Gaius



You might be a naive cop as well, which means your results are all useless.

Scratch that, that would be a one-target role.

[BSmith]

vote: Ishmael

I think I am either a taxi driver or a minibus driver.

[Darth Feather]

Got any proof?

oh yeah, and it seems you show up every time the lynch tends to go your way. Suspicious fos: BSmith

[BSmith]

Only by deduction. After N1 all I have gotten is mission success notices. I used it on myself and gaius last night. I used it on arjos and I believe Robbie the night arjos was killed, which leads me to believe I am not a pure bus driver.

[Montmorency]

Ok. Unvote; We need full reveals.


I used it on myself and gaius last night.

If you are a taxi-driver, would that change results so that your innocence would be attributed to Gaius? Is that how the role works?

Please reveal, Gaius.


There might be one killer though. My gues would be a spree killer. Suppose edse targetted Riedquat as a jailkeeper. The spree killer targets riedquats house. There are two deaths. Could that be it? Otherwise, It could be a bomber who just last night blew up all bombs. That would mean we are quite safe this night. An electrocuter is not likely because: suppose he electrocuted riedquat night 1. Night 2 Arjos used his lightning ability so he could not kill that one. He targets Arjos. Suppose next night, the scum kill Autolycus and the electrocuter killed Arjos. Then next night he could have elektrocuted riedquat. He would still be one night behind and not be able to kill edse. Vengefull killer and ninja is unlikely because they could never kill twice. If he is a vile amor, he is probably no more able to kill. These were my two cents.

...if no one is lying, perhaps. Ishmael's visit of you needs elaborating. What exactly is Ishmael? I think some other type of doctor or cop could be ruled out: tracker? watcher? recruiter? role scanner?

Robbie, whom did you Amor?

Let's not forget that the single kills were on N1 and N2, and double-kills on N3 and N4. I'll think some more...

[Darth Feather]

Because I feel bad if I haven't voted I am going to vote: BSmith. You could be telling the truth, but you said you swapped you and Gaius and implied that you are a mini-bus driver, This is in my opinion a lot of coincidence, especially after Montmorency revealed he scanned Gaius. So that's the reason for my vote. Even though Montmorency has been behaving scummy in the beginning, he is not doing so now and I don't think it is a good idea to kill him.

[Darth Feather]

By the way, if I am not mistaken, the day is only one hour still so full reveal won't be for today (maybe tonight.)

[Darth Feather]

Let's not forget that the single kills were on N1 and N2, and double-kills on N3 and N4. I'll think some more...

We don't know wether there is a single kill on N2 because Arjos used his lightning ability. Suppose each scum could either kill or use their ability. I would guess the mafia killed on N1 (I mean B_Ray) and the spree killer (if there is one) attacked at night a home of someone who wasn't there. If there is a bomber, he might have bombed Riedquat or edse. But if he did, next night he attached to arjos. If he made the bombs explode, he would have killed Arjos and someone else, which is unlikely unless the scum didn't kill that night. The bomber might as well not have attached a bomb on N1. That would explain the one kill on N3 but not the two kills on N4; So I think the final third pary role is a spree killer.

[Jarema]

yeah, one hour of day left

[Darth Feather]

So montmorency, you might want to vote, as you will die if it continues ( and a monkey could be handy)

I suddenly realised something. There could still be an electrocuter. If he visited riedquat on night 1 and he visited edse on N4, and edse targetted riedquat, they could have died. Granted, it is not very likely, but it is a possibility

[edse]

2 Montmorency: Ishmael, Gaius
1 Ishmael: BSmith
1 BSmith: Darth Feather

1 No Vote: Montmorency

[Darth Feather]

Robbiecon is not on your list, edse. :clown:

So the correct tally is something like

2 Montmorency: Ishmael, Gaius
1 Ishmael: BSmith
1 BSmith: Darth Feather

2 No Vote: Montmorency, Robbiecon

[Jarema]

EDIT:

Due to my problems with defining time here I might make you wrong.
Just to be sure everyone has a chance, day will last 25 minutes from now (to the end of full hour)

[Jarema]

Day ended

Montmorency killed

Montmorency was mafia. His role was informant
town victory

[Darth Feather]

He almost got me. I was certain BSmith was scum. Sorry BSmith it was nothing personnal. :shame:

[Montmorency]

I did what I could. I'm sure it would have worked out if BRay hadn't gone AWOL on the crucial day (no offense). Read the QT (http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/gNrmKEP2G5jLm), and you'll get a sense of our strategy. I wasn't meant to survive this long!

So who's the other killer?

[Jarema]

Town Victory!

link to mafia qt:
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/gNrmKEP2G5jLm

link to vampiers qt (not much there):
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/GmTrkeZVAff7

link to qt for spoiled deads (aka LazyMcCrow). All night orders are there:
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/g7p7xbVMMjLS

[Jarema]

Roles:

A. Mafia
1. Montmorency - informant
never tried to use his role. Was busy killing people
2. B_Ray - roleblocked
Did not guess his role
3. Makrell - role-stealer
Died so early

B. Vampire
1. Rickinator
Managed to bite Arjos, but second night was not good for him, and then he got catched

C. Town
1. Autolycus - vampire hunter
Not much. Due to Arjos' action, managed to find player biten by vampire
2. Robbiecon - amor
Decided not to use his ability, judging is as detrimental (I tend to agree)
3. Ishmael - tracker
One of easiest abilities to use - it was easy to recognize that one is a tracker after seeing first information. Never tracked scum.
4. Riedquat - cpr doctor
Our additional killer. Really mad doctor with itching electrodes. Together with Edse he protected Arjos at night 2
5. Darth Feather - curious guy
Potentially very powerful role, in this gam did not learn much
6. Arjos - lightning rod
Role I was affraid of. It could change entire game, especially if he was protected at nights when he could not use his ability.
7. Edse - jailkeeper
Participated in saving Arjos, not much to add
8. Elite Ferret - village fool
Missed night 1, and then was killed
9. Gaius Scribonius Curio - role scanner
Had some knowledge about roles but did not seem to want to share it easily
10. Lazy Mc Crow - insane cop
Died too early to use his role for benefit or detriment of town
11. BSmith - taxi driver
Almost useless role in this setting. Would have any effect only if one of this role targets targeted curious guy

Two town roles were almost useles - but I was happy with that. First time when I hosted this game, mafia was overwhelmed by town abilities

[Arjos]

Luck and suicidal mafia bring us victory :P

Mead for everyone!

Poor Monty, mafia or town he gets lynched no matter what XD

[Darth Feather]

I did what I could. I'm sure it would have worked out if BRay hadn't gone AWOL on the crucial day (no offense). Read the QT (http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/gNrmKEP2G5jLm), and you'll get a sense of our strategy. I wasn't meant to survive this long!

So who's the other killer?

Riedquat was the other killer. A CPR doctor who is a killer lol.

[Montmorency]

When CPR doctor protects person X, and person X is not attacked, then person X dies.

Oh, I missed this.

Looks like my line of reasoning was a dead-end from the start! :laugh4:

[Jarema]

Riedquat was the other killer. A CPR doctor who is a killer lol.

CPR doctor, despite the name, is in fact form of vigilante (a lot more likely to kill than to protect)

[Ishmael]

Good game everybody. I was the tracker, in case you were wondering. I had pretty poor luck with my target choices - targeted Lazy McCrow N1 who visited Montmorency and died that night (you got lucky there Montmorency - you would have presumably been lynched D2 if he survived). I actually targeted Arjos N2, who obviously didn't go anywhere; Darth Feather didn't go anywhere N3; and BSmith visited Gaius N4. It did help to have two all but cleared innocents at the end, to narrow down the suspects. I was also lucky that I could work out my role fairly easily.


Need to build up a more substantial case on myself in future rounds. Initiate strange behavior. Will plan a particularly incriminating NK tonight.

Heh, to think I was considering voting you one round because I thought you were acting less scummily than usual. Some lovely irony with your survival.

[Jarema]

(you got lucky there Montmorency - you would have presumably been lynched D2 if he survived)

In fact, as an insane cop, Lazy would scan Montmorency as innocent

[Jarema]

Thank you all for playing.
As at the first time, hosting this game was a great fun for me. I hope it was also fun for you, and I hope some of you will join third edition of this game (not soon, but I plan to host it)

I added list of all roles to post 224

[Montmorency]

Heh, to think I was considering voting you one round because I thought you were acting less scummily than usual. Some lovely irony with your survival.

Have to admit though, if we'd gone ahead with having BRay use his ability on me, and decided to press a roleblock claim outright, he would never ever have been lynched. I think this possibility is mulled over in the QT - or did I just come up with it now?

[Ishmael]

Have to admit though, if we'd gone ahead with having BRay use his ability on me, and decided to press a roleblock claim outright, he would never ever have been lynched. I think this possibility is mulled over in the QT - or did I just come up with it now?

It could have worked, but you'd need to time it well - too early and people would start getting suspicious as to how such a high-value target was surviving; too late, and you run the risk of one of you being lynched before you can pull it off.

[Montmorency]

D4 was the moment. Even if we prevaricated too much for a scheme dependent on night actions to work out, a voting war between us then would have bought one of us at least a day.

I should have voted BRay early on, once I saw which way the winds were blowing. Yet I still held out hope that I would be the one to go up for lynch. I still believe that he could have managed it...

Overall, one of the cleanest town wins we've seen since Pirate Ship II. :shame:

[Gaius Scribonius Curio]

Well played everyone, and thanks to Jarema for hosting.

As noted above I had the role-scanner ability. Had the round ended a few hours later than 3 am, then I would have been able to explicitly label Monty as being disingenuous.

A summary of my targets - N1 - EF - Village Fool; N2 - Rickinator - Blocked by Arjos (Lightning Rod); N3 - BSmith - Taxi Driver; N4 - Montmorency - Blocked due to BSmith.

I didn't see the need to reveal any of this as it was useless - since everyone accepted my innocence, why would I reveal my ability when it would add nothing to the discussion. As mentioned - had the round continued for a few hours I would have...

[rickinator9]

I liked the game and roles overall, although I quickly went down after the second round.

As noted somewhere else, I went for Arjos first. He played in all the Mafia games I've played, so I reckoned he was experienced with Mafia games. I voted Montmorency in the second round as I found his comment pretty scummy(it didn't benefit the town in any way). Ironic that he was really scum, but nobody else believed he was. That vote apparently made everyone suspicious of me and my sneaky vote on the end of the round sealed my fate. It's funny that Arjos activated his ability on Night 2, because if he didn't and autolycus didn't protect him, he would either be dead or a vampire.

On day 3 I already knew I would be lynched, so I jokingly said Arjos was protected. This had rather good effect initially, as some people started get suspicious of him and autolycus exposed himself to me. But alas, you guys quickly began thinking straight again.

[Riedquat]

Congratz town! Realized to late I was a vigilante just to die and discover I was a doctor.. lol

Thanks for hosting Jarema!

[LazyMcCrow]

Thanks Jarema. I very much enjoyed being a 'spoiled' deadie and being able to read the mafia QT while seeing the potential for everyone elses actions was very entertaining :D
Bad luck Mafia - I didn't see how you were going to recover, but I was rooting for you anyway and you didn't give up - so well played. Well played town - as has been pointed out if I hadn't been killed N1, then - as an insane cop - I would have scanned Monty as innocent and it may have been all very different: So for various reasons, I'm actually glad I was brutally murdered night 1! :dizzy2:

Thanks Jarema - look forward to the next one :2thumbsup:

[Darth Feather]

I am not sure about that. If you scanned the next night Arjos as guilty, it would easily come out you were insane cop, most likely leading to montmorencies lynch.

[edse]

He could have used the possibility of a framer mafia role for defence.

I was killed by the doctor :cry:

[B-Wing]

Well I enjoyed the crap out of that, even though I was utterly confused most of the time. Glad to have a QT so I had someone to strategize with. I was very impressed with your work, Monty, and I hate that I didn't come through for us that time. Really didn't expect to find myself on the lynch list until much later. Unfortunately, I had just begun a busy vacation trip by Day 4 and just didn't keep it together. Loved it while it lasted, though. Congratulations town!