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TheLastDays
07-30-2013, 22:57
Hunt for The Fox


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I cast no shadow on the grave
No one knows my name
I ride the wind of seven seas
Gone before the rain
I am both friend and enemy
An object of disdain
Living it up in the down and out
I run with the foxes and hunt with the hounds

Yeah, I feel it in my bones
Like a rolling stone
An enemy unknown
I lose control
I feel it in my bones
Like a rolling stone
You'll never find me on the high ground
I lose control

I draw disaster from the vein
Like fire in the sky
I am the bandage and the bane
The Fuhrer of the flies
I stand alone where none remain
A creature of the night
I'll cut you in, but there's no way out
I run with the foxes and hunt with the hounds

I am the death that makes your life seem good
I am the pain that brings you close to God
I am the prophet warning of the flood
I am the answer you misunderstood

I am the answer that you misunderstand
I do the evil that an honest man can't
I live in shadows that the enemy casts
I have no future and I have no past

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The only thing even more out of place than the shiny black sedan parked atop a hill, a few miles out of a small mining town in the middle of nowhere, were it's two inhabitants, leaning against it's side as they looked towards the unimpressive congregation of wooden buildings all in the shadow of a not-so-mighty church tower. "So, this is the place?" the woman asked. She was dressed casually but had a pretty impressive gun strapped to her waist and her sunglasses made it impossible to see her eyes. Nodding the guy put down his binoculars and started to roll himself a cigarette on the car's roof. "This is the place alright. He's holed up in there somewhere."

The woman reched into her jacket and pulled out a photograph, holding it idly between her fingers for a moment, while looking towards the town. "It's a shame", the guy remarked, following her gaze, "He could have run into the wilderness somewhere. Now we'll have to kill all these people as well. This is his playing field, his specialty. He'll use the town for cover."

"But we know what he looks like", she waved the photograph at her partner. Another shrug from him: "And what does it help? You know we can't expose him to the others. We'll have to play this by his rules" he murmured, lighting his cigarette and inhaling deeply. She bit her lips, asking: "And what are these?"

He looked straight at her, throwing the barely smoked cigarette to the ground and extinguishing it with his foot, pausing for effect.

"The game's not over until everyone's dead."

***



Some might or might not remember my first game here on the .org where every player had some kind of power role and such. This will be a bit simpler rolewise, the majority of the roles will be plain townies but there'll be a bit more to it. It's a bit of an experimental, unconventional setup. The writeups will contain hints towards the setup but not towards the roles this time.

Rules:


NO private communication whatsoever unless it happens in Quicktopics set up by me!
NO quoting or referencing your ROLE PMs, NO roleclaims!
No screenshots of any kind
The dead can only communicate about the game inside the game thread and over public knowledge!
There'll be a Quicktopic set up for the dead which they will receive the link to after dying. If you die and visit this Quicktopic I kindly ask you to refrain from contributing to the game discussion from that point on.
After death players will either show up guilty or innocent! Sometimes their names will come up too. There are no death millers or other misleading reveals upon death. Who shows up innocent was town and who shows up guilty was not town.


There will be a zero tolerance policy towards extreme lurking. Not registering a vote for two consecutive day phases will make you eligible for the WoG unless I get a PM beforehand, announcing why you'll have to be inactive. Mafia will not be spared the WoG.

Voting Procedure:
You may abstain but "No Lynch" is not an option
vote: user for a vote
unvote for an abstain after voting
unvote, vote: user for a change of votes
Ties will be resolved by a single tiebreaker vote. The first vote after the deadline counts.

All rounds will last for approx. 24 hours and will end at 11:00 PM CET which should translate to 5:00 PM US Eastern if I’m not mistaken. Voting will end at that point and votes after the deadline will not be counted, even if the writeup comes a bit later

I'm willing to talk about the deadline if it's too early for you US guys. Just say something :wink:

Thanks to:
Pizza, for taking a look at some of my questions and making som balance and rule suggestions. :bow:

I'm ready to go, so please sign up, we will begin as soon as Signups are full!

Signups (16/17):

1. edse
2. Ishmael
3. Riedquat
4. Montmorency
5. Darth Feather
6. autolycus
7. Nightbringer
8. Visorslash
9. Gaius Scribonius Curio
10. rickinator9
11. dcmort93
12. CountArach
13. Jarema
14. El Barto
15. Makrell
16. The Outsider
17. Chaotix

edse
07-31-2013, 12:50
Finst

Ishmael
07-31-2013, 12:51
I recall having a lot of fun in your last game, so I'm definitely in.

Riedquat
07-31-2013, 15:20
Uh! Third in!

Montmorency
07-31-2013, 16:41
OK.

Darth Feather
07-31-2013, 19:42
When is this planned to end?

TheLastDays
07-31-2013, 20:22
When is this planned to end?

I'm not sure, it could end pretty quickly. But I guess we'll be done around the middle of August.

Darth Feather
07-31-2013, 20:35
Then In untill the fifteenth of august (I will depart on holliday then )

TheLastDays
07-31-2013, 20:48
Let's just hope you're dead by then :clown:

TheLastDays
07-31-2013, 23:56
I hope this warrants a double post but I wanted to make clear that I edited the OP with chances in the rules and the information. Also I updated it to show that I am pretty much ready to go so as soon as signups are full we can begin! :yes:

autolycus
08-01-2013, 00:54
Intense!

Nightbringer
08-01-2013, 01:08
Its beIN a while, but why not.

Visor
08-01-2013, 01:37
In.

Gaius Scribonius Curio
08-01-2013, 03:27
In...

rickinator9
08-01-2013, 04:26
In.

dcmort93
08-01-2013, 06:40
It has been a while since I've been on the org. In​ I think

CountArach
08-01-2013, 10:05
And with this one word I announce my return to the Gameroom:

In.

Chaotix
08-01-2013, 14:25
Put me down as a reserve/replacement in case you don't get the full number. :bow:

Jarema
08-01-2013, 15:57
I'm in

TheLastDays
08-01-2013, 16:08
Alright, thanks for the interest so far :bow:

I have edited the OP again with a few rule clarifications. Also thanks to Pizza for a few suggestions towards the setup :yes: As stated before, I am now fully ready to go and if the signup sheet is full by tonight we will begin tonight at 11:00 PM CET (GMT+1)

El Barto
08-01-2013, 16:15
El Barto is in.

Makrell
08-01-2013, 17:53
I am so in

The Outsider
08-01-2013, 18:28
Im drinking at the INN so count me in :D

TheLastDays
08-01-2013, 21:07
I might go ahead and promote Chaotix to active player so I can start tonight since one player already said he only has til the middle of August... any objections ^^

El Barto
08-01-2013, 22:28
Yes, I object to the musical autoplay, so with another five posts it'll get buried in page 1.

TheLastDays
08-01-2013, 22:49
Just removed the autoplay, just for you :wink:

Alright, Role PMs are all sent out and the first post will be up shortly, beginning the game :yes:

TheLastDays
08-01-2013, 23:14
Hunt for The Fox


The face in the mirror was clearly recognizable as the one the woman had been looking at in a photograph outside of town. Only the stubbles of a beard and a few bruises made it look slightly different and much older. A deep sigh escaped the man's lips as he turned around, looking at the body on the ground: "So, you are the first", he smiled and stepped over the corpse around which a growing pool of blood was forming, "the first of many more". His eyes betrayed his smile though. He had gotten tired of this and this situation here should be the last like it.

His enemies though would be fools to underestimate him because of this. He was The Fox! He knew no regrets, no limits and no surrender. He would play this game and force his rules upon them. Yes, the body would soon be discovered and he had heard about this town's traditional way of dealing with such crimes. His lips were transforming into a smile again as he opened the small shack's door and stepped out into the cool air of the early morning. He was ready.

***

Only a little while later the bells were ringing, calling the community to the town square, if you could call it that. It was just a tiny square, the church on one side and the mining administration's office on the other. Townspeople were gathering around and the air was tense. Some had already heard that a body had been found and were eager to share the news. Others, who had been here for a long time already, knew what this meant and were not as excited.

"Listen up!", finally the mayor, Bill, spoked up and after a few more shouts the crowd's noise began to ebb down. "There was a murder tonight and those of you who are still fairly new have surely already been briefed by the others as to how we deal with such things." He looked around, some faces staring back at him in confusion. "Well I guess, I can explain it again." Now he started walking back and forth in the small circle that had formed in the middle of the crowd.

"There's too much turnaround to know everyone here for sure. We have no police or any such organisation. We don't need any. If there is a crime, we, the people, find the culprit and deal with him. We are judge and jury, alright?" A few of men nodded in agreement, some older people looked down into the mud, almost ashamed as if they remembered past guilt. "We will bring forth names that we find suspicious and we will vote on them. Everyday the winner", he emphasised this word, "will be put to death, until we have found all those that are guilty of this crime."

"Does everybody understand?" He looked around, most of them nodding, some of them shocked but clearly understanding of his message. "Then get to work, begin to vote!"

It is now DAY 1!

Voting closes tomorrow, Friday, 12 P.M. CET / 6 P.M. US Eastern. Votes after the deadline will not be counted, unless there is a tie. If there's a tie the first vote to break it after the deadline decides. Since this is the first day if too many people don't read their PMs early enough to realize the game has started and to make contributions I might extend the phase but for now the deadline stands.




Alive:
edse
Ishmael
Riedquat
Montmorency
Darth Feather
autolycus
Nightbringer
Visorslash
Gaius Scribonius Curio
rickinator9
dcmort93
CountArach
Jarema
El Barto
Makrell
The Outsider
Chaotix

autolycus
08-01-2013, 23:20
Arbitrary Vote: The Outsider. He's clearly not one of us!!

Montmorency
08-01-2013, 23:35
Vote: edse

Ishmael
08-02-2013, 00:26
vote: edse, for stealing my rightful place at the top of the players list.

Montmorency
08-02-2013, 00:34
Unvote; Vote: The Outsider

Chaotix
08-02-2013, 00:36
Unvote; Vote: The Outsider

Vote: Montmorency

Shame on you, voting for our newest arrival so soon!

Do you want to scare off the new blood? We need to at least indoctrinate him first... :evil:

El Barto
08-02-2013, 01:12
vote:Chaotix for being on to me last game.

Montmorency
08-02-2013, 01:12
Unvote; Vote: Chaotix

CountArach
08-02-2013, 01:57
Vote: Nightbringer

Clearly murders aren't going to occur during the day, so what better way to hide as scum than to bring your own night?

Riedquat
08-02-2013, 03:27
Vote: Autolycus for... being the first pointing fingers!

Gaius Scribonius Curio
08-02-2013, 03:30
Vote: Count Arach

Welcome back... :bow:

rickinator9
08-02-2013, 03:46
Vote: Montmorency

Give the lad a chance.

Visor
08-02-2013, 03:51
Vote: Scumquat

Jarema
08-02-2013, 04:48
vote: Visorslash

dcmort93
08-02-2013, 07:53
Meh, it's day 1 so I'll Vote: Abstain.

Nightbringer
08-02-2013, 08:02
Unvote; Vote: Chaotix

Vote:montmorency
Your name reminds me of Montezuma, and he back-stabs me too much!

TheLastDays
08-02-2013, 08:22
Tally-Time :yes:

Montmorency: 3 (Chaotix, rickinator9, Nightbringer)

Chaotix: 2 (El Barto, Montmorency)

The Outsider: 1 (autolycus)
edse: 1 (Ishmael)
Nightbringer: 1 (Count Arach)
Autolycus: 1 (Riedquat)
Count Arach: 1 (Gaius Scribonius Curio)
Riedquat: 1 (Visorslash)
Visorslash: 1 (Jarema)

Abstain: dcmort93



Can anyone confirm the timer is showing correctly, please? Should end at Mignight CET or 6 PM US Eastern.

edse
08-02-2013, 10:53
The timer works fine but your tally has at least one mistake, Nightbringer voted for Montmorency.

Vote: Chaotix in order to save Montmorency.

TheLastDays
08-02-2013, 11:05
Alright, thanks for pointing that out!

Edited the former tally and with your vote that is:

Montmorency: 3 (Chaotix, rickinator9, Nightbringer)
Chaotix: 3 (El Barto, Montmorency, edse)

The Outsider: 1 (autolycus)
edse: 1 (Ishmael)
Nightbringer: 1 (Count Arach)
Autolycus: 1 (Riedquat)
Count Arach: 1 (Gaius Scribonius Curio)
Riedquat: 1 (Visorslash)
Visorslash: 1 (Jarema)

Abstain: dcmort93



So with about half the (game)day over almost all the players have checked in so there's no need for an extension. Voting will close at the aforementioned time!

CountArach
08-02-2013, 12:58
Unvote, Vote: Montmorency

The Outsider
08-02-2013, 14:28
vote: montomercy

Also thank you my.fellow. Orgahs for aiding my defence, it has been noted down. Now.lets have ourselves an old.fashioned lynching.

CountArach
08-02-2013, 14:40
Unvote, Vote: The Outsider

I certainly wasn't doing this to aid your defence, you have just as great a chance of being scummy as Montmorency.

Visor
08-02-2013, 14:54
Unvote; Vote: Chaotix

would prefer monty not lynched simply because he tends to get lynched too early.

TheLastDays
08-02-2013, 16:09
Another tally!

Montmorency: 4 (Chaotix, rickinator9, Nightbringer, The Outsider)
Chaotix: 4 (El Barto, Montmorency, edse, Visorslash)

The Outsider: 2 (autolycus, CountArach)

edse: 1 (Ishmael)
Autolycus: 1 (Riedquat)
CountArach: 1 (Gaius Scribonius Curio)
Visorslash: 1 (Jarema)

Abstain: dcmort93



I might not be able to post a lot from now until the deadline so be nice guys :P
Just in case, let me remind you that if there is a tie at the deadline the first vote after the deadline breaks the die and decides the lynch.

The Outsider
08-02-2013, 17:49
Unvote, Vote: The Outsider

I certainly wasn't doing this to aid your defence, you have just as great a chance of being scummy as Montmorency.

Hmmm. You are certainly taking my friendly remark too personal, i wasnt adressing you, if you noticed, i said "fellow orgahs" not "fellow scums".

Ps. Dont get this post too personal either.

El Barto
08-02-2013, 19:27
Everyone is scum here. You really are an outsider if you don't know that.

*wink* *puts on sunglasses* None of us is scum, move along. *bright flash*

The Outsider
08-02-2013, 19:44
Hehehe.. :bow:

Darth Feather
08-02-2013, 20:33
Meh, it's day 1 so I'll Vote: Abstain.

FYI: Abstain changed his name back into Visorslash.

Vote: Montmorency to break the tie :evil:

El Barto
08-02-2013, 21:00
Why break the tie? What do you have against Montmorency?

Darth Feather
08-02-2013, 22:25
Why break the tie? What do you have against Montmorency?

I am frightened of a no-lynch. :creep:

And I chose Monty because he voted The Outsider on round one.

TheLastDays
08-02-2013, 22:35
I'm back, ready for doing the writeup. Less than half an hour to vote.

TheLastDays
08-02-2013, 23:05
Hunt for The Fox
End of DAY 1!


At first people were reluctant to throw around accusations. A few votes were placed but carefully distributed. Nobody, not even the young boys, wanted to be the one to start an irreversible process leading to someone's death. The older men in the town knew this wouldn't be going on for long and they were right. It only took a while before the instinct of self preservation kicked in and most of the voters felt that it was better to have a few more votes between themselves and the "leader" in that fateful race.

One by one the votes piled up and finally there were two candidates locked in a tie that seemed to be a dead end for a while. No one was willing to throw the deciding vote. The two tied for the lead stood in the middle of the crowd in a small round space that had been freed by the others, staring each other right in the eye, ready to fight it out should that be necessary. No one in this town wanted to die.

The sun set slowly and just as it was about to disappear behind the church's roof the tenstion was at it's thickest point. Ready to jump the two soon to be combatants stared at the last bit of light vanishing behind that roof when suddenly they heard a cry: "WAIT!"

Everyone stared at the newcomer who had arrived late - very late - to the town square. He was trying to catch his breath, obviously been running to get there on time. Finally he pointed his finger at one inside the circle. "Him... kill him!" So it was decided...


Montmorency was lynched.
He was innocent.

Final tally:

Montmorency: 5 (Chaotix, rickinator9, Nightbringer, The Outsider, Darth Feather)

Chaotix: 4 (El Barto, Montmorency, edse, Visorslash)
The Outsider: 2 (autolycus, CountArach)
edse: 1 (Ishmael)
Autolycus: 1 (Riedquat)
CountArach: 1 (Gaius Scribonius Curio)
Visorslash: 1 (Jarema)

Abstain: dcmort93

It is now NIGHT 1!

Orders due tomorrow, Saturday, Midnight CET / 6 P.M. US Eastern.




Alive:
edse
Ishmael
Riedquat
Darth Feather
autolycus
Nightbringer
Visorslash
Gaius Scribonius Curio
rickinator9
dcmort93
CountArach
Jarema
El Barto
Makrell
The Outsider
Chaotix

Lynched:
Montmorency

Visor
08-03-2013, 02:38
Absolutely shocking.

TheLastDays
08-03-2013, 12:18
Sleep tight :yes:

Visor
08-03-2013, 14:32
FYI: Abstain changed his name back into Visorslash.

Vote: Montmorency to break the tie :evil:

DC is an abstain voter normally, he doesn't know (I think) that I changed my name briefly.

TheLastDays
08-03-2013, 23:00
Hunt for The Fox
Night 1!


"Good night", a smile was on the man's lips as he left the local tavern, turning around one more time to wave to his friends. He hadn't been drinking himself to a coma but enough to forget about the terrible day, at least for the moment and to put him into a jolly mood. It was also enough to make his way home a little less straightforward. Jumbling from side to side in the muddy street he held on to a wall every now and then to keep from falling down.

Suddenly he saw a figure approaching. A toneless 'wow' formed on his lips as he stared into what must have been the most beautiful eyes he'd ever seen. It must have been the alcohol or maybe he had fallen asleep and was dreaming but this woman was stunning. He tried to pull himself up against a building standing up straight, saying: "Oh, good evening beautiful lady, what is an angel like you doing alone out here?"

At least he thought that was what he was saying. In reality it was closer to "Gooeeve biffilay... whaagharrvel...." He slumped to the ground, the alcohol robbing him of his senses. Maybe it was for the better. A disgusted look on her face the lady pulled a gun from inside her mantle and without hesitation aimed it at his forehead before pulling the trigger.

She turned around and started walking away, quickly, when she heard a noise to the side. She looked but saw nothing. Another noise, behind her. Now she started walking more hastily, turning around a few corners quickly. Come on, remember your training. She looked behind, past the last corner she had turned and for the fragment of a second she thought she could see the figure of a man up the alley. Another noise coming from that direction. Yes, someone was definitely behind her, following her.

Quickly she turned the other way and walked fast, almost ran down a few more streets. Looking back a few times she could sometimes see a shadow, sometimes hear steps or something falling over behind her when suddenly she ran into something. Gathering her senses she looked and her stomach turned when she saw the grinning face and the blank gun. She knew it was too late to reach for her own and her failure was the last thing she ever thought about.

***

In the morning two bodies were found in the street. A crowd had gathered around a man when they turned him around and someone called out. "Hey, I know this guy! That's..."


El Barto was killed.
He was innocent.


That didn't happen at the scene a few streets away. Nobody knew the woman that was lying in the mud, nobody had ever seen her and when a guy pulled out a driving license nobody recognized the name Alesja Lavricova. She was definitely not from around here...

Chaotix was killed.
He was guilty.


The bodies were picked up and done away with and shortly after the town was gathering again. The mayor made a short address, basically stating that there were obviously more killers around. "We need to put an end to this. Let's not go for another innocent man from our midst like yesterday!"

It is now DAY 2!

Voting closes tomorrow, Sunday, Midnight CET / 6 P.M. US Eastern. Votes after the deadline will not be counted, unless there is a tie. If there's a tie the first vote to break it after the deadline decides.

:whip: WOG Warning: Makrell :whip:
If you don't vote during today's phase you are eligible for the WOG/replacement.




Alive:
edse
Ishmael
Riedquat
Darth Feather
autolycus
Nightbringer
Visorslash
Gaius Scribonius Curio
rickinator9
dcmort93
CountArach
Jarema
Makrell
The Outsider

Lynched:
Montmorency

Killed:
El Barto
Chaotix

Ishmael
08-04-2013, 02:12
Well, that was good of the Fox.

vote: rickinator9

CountArach
08-04-2013, 02:16
So it looks like we have 2 groups of killers, or (probably more likely) a mafia and a psycho. I am guessing that the second kill was from the psycho based on the reference to the "grinning face". It seems unlikely that we would have multiple solo killers and as such we can perhaps surmise that Chaotix was in a family. He was almost lynched yesterday and looking at the vote patterns this post is interesting from Darth Feather:

Vote: Montmorency to break the tie :evil:

It was the final vote which sealed Montmorency's fate and thus saved Chaotix.

Vote: Darth Feather

@ TheLastDays - Could you please highlight the dead player names in the list of killed and lynched after each update in red/blue? That would make it much easier to keep track of.

Visor
08-04-2013, 02:17
Vote: Darth Feather for saving Chaotix. Other good choices for tomorrow and the days after include Count Arach, The Outsider and edse.

Ishmael
08-04-2013, 03:00
In all honesty, I don't think Darth Feather would be that blatant in saving his teammate - with only the two of them, he surely would have considered it too risky. I went for rickinator because his vote took some of the pressure off Chaotix, but early enough that it wasn't quite so obvious.

CountArach, the write-ups strongly indicate that there are (well, were) two mafia and one SK ('The Fox').

CountArach
08-04-2013, 03:09
CountArach, the write-ups strongly indicate that there are (well, were) two mafia and one SK ('The Fox').
Yeah I just don't like to take anything for granted until we can verify it over the course of multiple write-ups.

And I would be surprised if Darth Feather was being that blatant too but I find very little to go on at this point. Also no one would really have been questioning him if Chaotix hadn't been killed, or at least he would have been far less suspicious. So this early in the game I guess it is less of a risk to do that sort of voting.

Nightbringer
08-04-2013, 05:38
So it looks like we have 2 groups of killers, or (probably more likely) a mafia and a psycho. I am guessing that the second kill was from the psycho based on the reference to the "grinning face". It seems unlikely that we would have multiple solo killers and as such we can perhaps surmise that Chaotix was in a family. He was almost lynched yesterday and looking at the vote patterns this post is interesting from Darth Feather:


It was the final vote which sealed Montmorency's fate and thus saved Chaotix.

Vote: Darth Feather

@ TheLastDays - Could you please highlight the dead player names in the list of killed and lynched after each update in red/blue? That would make it much easier to keep track of.

Makes sense to me, and we might as well make sure while we don't have any other candidates.

Nightbringer
08-04-2013, 05:40
ah darn it, forgot to vote in first post. vote:darth feather

sorry about the double post.

Gaius Scribonius Curio
08-04-2013, 07:47
While Darth Feather's actions are questionable, I question the wisdom of an overwhelming bandwagon at this early stage...

Similarly, if someone had Chaotix killed, one would presume that there are other threats who would not be so easily tied to him.

Vote: Riedquat

Jarema
08-04-2013, 07:58
vote: Rickinator.
I will say Darth, but he has a few votes already.
All who voted to save Chaotix are slightly suspicious

edse
08-04-2013, 09:11
Vote: Darth Feather maybe he took the risk considering it unlikely that Chaotix would die so soon.

The Outsider
08-04-2013, 09:48
vote:visorslash

Something fishy is going on with him. I certainly smell a degree of scummines... First he voted for someone else but when he realised that chaotix was beyond saving he trew away his ally.... Also he seems to have a good.list.of people to lynch before others might have the chance to consider lynching him. A good strategy to draw away suspicious eyes i beleive.

TheLastDays
08-04-2013, 10:15
@ TheLastDays - Could you please highlight the dead player names in the list of killed and lynched after each update in red/blue? That would make it much easier to keep track of.

Sure... Done and will do :yes:

Darth Feather
08-04-2013, 10:39
ok, that looks really bad for me. I wouldn't probably be so blatant. I mean, in The Palace I did not save ACIN even though I had the chance. That said, I would probably vote for me if I were in your place.

so: Vote: CountArach for putting montmorency in the lead.

Makrell
08-04-2013, 10:52
Vote: Visorslash agreement with the outsider.

autolycus
08-04-2013, 12:19
vote:rickinator Ishmael's argument makes sense to me.

TheLastDays
08-04-2013, 13:16
Tally with less than half the day to go:

Darth Feather: 4 (CountArach, Visorslash, Nightbringer, edse)

rickinator9: 3 (Ishamel, Jarema, autolycus)

Visorslash: 2 (The Outsider, Makrell)

Riedquat: 1 (Gaius Scribonius Curio)
CountArach: 1 (Darth Feather)

Not voting: Riedquat, rickinator9, dcmort93

Darth Feather
08-04-2013, 13:31
Actually I could save myself, but I really think I shouldn't. This is going to bite me afterwards anyway. :boxedin:

rickinator9
08-04-2013, 14:35
Let's kill Darth out of self preservation.

Vote: Darth Feather

Darth Feather
08-04-2013, 16:30
Unvote

You aren't even in the lead. That seals it: OMGUSVote: Rickinator (also for trying to save chaotix.)

rickinator9
08-04-2013, 17:33
Unvote

You aren't even in the lead. That seals it: OMGUSVote: Rickinator (also for trying to save chaotix.)

Is it forbidden to help out the newcomer? It's good to see some new faces around. Besides, where were you on the Chaotix lynch? You could have voted for Chaotix when you broke the tie by voting for Monty.

Riedquat
08-04-2013, 18:33
o.O I don't even know why people is voting rickinator, the only one having a valid reason is Ishmael, in his mind... ricky's vote was the third or fourth of the previous round, the incidence of his vote was almost non exitant...
DF breakinng the tie was bad but worse with Chaotix revealed, in this situation I don't think it is wise to give him the benefit of the doubt. Vote: Dearth Feather

Darth Feather
08-04-2013, 18:41
I don't think it is wise to give him the benefit of the doubt. Vote: Dearth Feather

I concur :2thumbsup:


Besides, where were you on the Chaotix lynch? You could have voted for Chaotix when you broke the tie by voting for Monty

that's why I am in the lead right now.

TheLastDays
08-04-2013, 18:45
Another tally:

Darth Feather: 6 (CountArach, Visorslash, Nightbringer, edse, rickinator9, Riedquat)

rickinator9: 4 (Ishamel, Jarema, autolycus, Darth Feather)

Visorslash: 2 (The Outsider, Makrell)

Riedquat: 1 (Gaius Scribonius Curio)

Not voting: dcmort93

Jarema
08-04-2013, 19:10
o.O I don't even know why people is voting rickinator, the only one having a valid reason is Ishmael, in his mind... ricky's vote was the third or fourth of the previous round, the incidence of his vote was almost non exitant...
DF breakinng the tie was bad but worse with Chaotix revealed, in this situation I don't think it is wise to give him the benefit of the doubt. Vote: Dearth Feather

unvote; vote: Darth Feather

TheLastDays
08-04-2013, 23:02
Hunt for The Fox
End of Day 2!


The voting was much less fragmented and more decisive than during the first day. There had been two murders happening at night and if anything they strengthened the resolve of the town and reinforced them in the belief that they had to keep up what they had started until this whole thing was over. The man that had appeared late to yesterday's meeting and had then sentenced one of the innocent among them to death was the center of attention.

To make matters worse the woman he had defended the other day had turned out to be a killer herself and after a few arguments had been exchanged he concluded himself that killing him was probably the best course of action. Shrugging he stepped into the middle of the crowd at the end of the day, closing his eyes so he didn't have to see the mayor's large bodyguard approaching with a sledgehammer. In the end a pile of smashed head was all that remained of...


Darth Feather was lynched.
He was innocent.

Final Tally:

Darth Feather: 7 (CountArach, Visorslash, Nightbringer, edse, rickinator9, Riedquat, Jarema)

rickinator9: 3 (Ishamel, autolycus, Darth Feather)
Visorslash: 2 (The Outsider, Makrell)
Riedquat: 1 (Gaius Scribonius Curio)

Not voting: dcmort93

It is now NIGHT 2!

Orders due tomorrow, Monday, Midnight CET / 6 P.M. US Eastern.




Alive:
edse
Ishmael
Riedquat
autolycus
Nightbringer
Visorslash
Gaius Scribonius Curio
rickinator9
dcmort93
CountArach
Jarema
Makrell
The Outsider

Lynched:
Montmorency
Darth Feather

Killed:
El Barto
Chaotix

Chaotix
08-05-2013, 00:22
:laugh4:

Darth Feather
08-05-2013, 09:04
That's all, folks. :bow:

TheLastDays
08-05-2013, 23:01
Hunt for The Fox
Night 2!


Many of the townspeople had retreated home early after a disastrous day looking for various ways to forget the guilt of killing another innocent member of their community. This man was no different. He had tried to read something but he couldn't concentrate, he was both disturbed by the events of the day and afraid of the night so finally he settled for some mindless distraction and turned on the TV. He was lucky. There was a program he liked and the lighthearted humour was actually working on him, soon he was laughing and he got himself a beer from the kitchen. Both the guilt and the fear seemed to have gone at least for now.

On his way back from the refrigerator just when he was about to sit down again he heard a knock on the door. Cursing he put the beer down and quickly grabbed a robe from the bathroom. He wasn't exactly presentable but he didn't care. He didn't plan to invite anyone in. He hooked the door chain in, opening the door just a crack but that was enough. With a loud crashing noise the door flew open, ripping the chain from it's fixture and sending him flying onto his back. Moaning in pain he tried to lift himself up off the ground and regain his orientation but his attacker was already on top of him. He saw the crowbar come down at him just early enough to lift his arm, protecting his face but breaking his bones instead. The attacker kicked him in his groin, making him writhe in pain before continuing his ferocious attacks with the crowbar, this time without any resistance.

The whle thing was over quickly and the mysterious man left the building through a window as some doors in the stairway were opening, people being alarmed by the noise. A woman was running over from the other side of the hall, looking through the open door, her eyes wide open as she covered her mouth in shock. "Oh no... No!", she cried to her husband, "Look what they did to..."


Ishmael was killed.
He was innocent.


On the other end of town a man was taking his dog for a walk. He was afraid as well but what could he do? He was trying to get his dog to hurry up so he could get back inside but just today the old boy seemed to be in no hurry at all. Suddenly the animal was barking, looking into the direction of a small park, wagging it's tail. "No... No, boy, we're not going there tonight, we..." he didn't get any further, the dog was suddenly running, pulling the leash so hard and sudden that the man let go and had to run after his dog. "Stop!", he had to enter the park, "Stop, boy!", he looked around, his eyes getting used to the darkness away from the streetlights. "Where are you?" He cursed and then heard a noise to his right.

About 20 metres away he saw a shadow rushing away from a small body that lay lifeless on the ground. "No...", he whispered and was about to either crawl to his dog or follow that crazy animal murderer when he was grabbed from behind, a strong arm choking him, not letting go, no matter how hard he fought back. He had no chance, slowly the life left his eyes and he stopped his failed attempts at breathing, sliding to the ground, his attacker leaving him there to be discovered in the morning. The park attendant knew his face, he had often seen him there with his dog...


Jarema was killed.
He was innocent


The local tavernkeeper was about to lock up the bar and start cleaning when the little bell over the door announced another customer. "We're closing", she said, without looking at the door but she could hear steps approaching the bar and as she turned a man was sitting on one of the stools, smiling at her. "Oh, come on, just one drink." She wasn't sure. "Hey, I had a tough day", he looked at her pleadingly. "Alright, alright", she smiled. The man looked nice enough. "What do you want?"

"Scotch." She nodded, that's what she'd thought. She turned around, reaching for the bottle and pouring him a shot. "So, why are you still out?", she queried as she put the glass down in front of him. "Oh", he shrugged, "I've been out, looking for someone."

"Found them?"

"Not yet, at least not quite", he shook his head and downed the whiskey, reaching into his jacket, "but I guess I'll settle for less then." She looked at him, confused until he quickly pulled a gun out of his jacket instead of the expected wallet. "Much less", he remarked, a contemptuous look on his face as he pointed the gun at her and pulled the trigger.

The next day she was found and the mood was growing dim. Everyone had known the sweet lady and most of them liked her...


dcmort93 was killed.
He was innocent

They were ready to forget the sadness though, even more determined to find the killers now they met again, most of them looking at the others with increasing suspicion.

It is now DAY 3!

Voting closes tomorrow, Tuesday, Midnight CET / 6 P.M. US Eastern. Votes after the deadline will not be counted, unless there is a tie. If there's a tie the first vote to break it after the deadline decides.

:whip: WOG Warning: - :whip:
If you don't vote during today's phase you are eligible for the WOG/replacement.




Alive:
edse
Riedquat
autolycus
Nightbringer
Visorslash
Gaius Scribonius Curio
rickinator9
CountArach
Makrell
The Outsider

Lynched:
Montmorency
Darth Feather

Killed:
El Barto
Chaotix
Ishmael
dcmort93
Jarema

El Barto
08-05-2013, 23:57
Sounds as if dcmort93 was exchanged for his killer's target.

CountArach
08-06-2013, 01:08
Vote: rickinator9

Can you explain your vote for montmorency and why you said "give the kid a chance" when you voted for him.

rickinator9
08-06-2013, 01:43
Vote: rickinator9

Can you explain your vote for montmorency and why you said "give the kid a chance" when you voted for him.

It's the Outsider's first game. Montmorency voted for him on Day 1.

Nightbringer
08-06-2013, 01:49
Wasn't that just him trying to let the new player (outsider) get past the first round?

and... beaten to the punch :P

CountArach
08-06-2013, 02:39
Ah must have missed that bit where it was his first game.

Have either of you got any opinions on who we should lynch today?

dcmort93
08-06-2013, 03:14
Welp this sucks. I miss a day phase and come back to find I'm dead. Oh well. Have fun everyone else

rickinator9
08-06-2013, 03:22
Ah must have missed that bit where it was his first game.

Have either of you got any opinions on who we should lynch today?

Not any at all. I'm open for suggestions.

CountArach
08-06-2013, 03:29
Not any at all. I'm open for suggestions.
How about any opinions on posts which seem scummy? Do you feel that we should be lynching those who tried to avoid having Chaotix lynched or do you think that is a dead end?

Nightbringer
08-06-2013, 03:57
well, out of those who voted mont of day one only myself, ricky, and outsider remain alive.

So ricky and outsider are good targets :)

As far as posts are concerned, this one strikes me as one with TMI


Sounds as if dcmort93 was exchanged for his killer's target.

Maybe I am missing something, but I don't see the basis for saying that in the write-up, but for mafia to put something like that out seems like it would draw too much attention. So I am leaning towards putting el barto on the safe list.

Honestly count, I am finding you the most scummy. You acknowledged the argument against your vote but let it stand without any continued support, seems like it might be an attempt to just slip by without rustling feathers.
vote:countarach

CountArach
08-06-2013, 05:13
I assume El barto is basing it on the following:

I've been out, looking for someone."

"Found them?"

"Not yet, at least not quite", he shook his head and downed the whiskey, reaching into his jacket, "but I guess I'll settle for less then."

Certainly I took it the same way and we had been told that the write ups would have clues about what happened in them.

And I see why I am being voted for. I have let any sort of attempt to refute it slide because quite frankly I am using essentially the same argument against the people I am voting for. Rather than looking at people like myself who indirectly allowed Chaotix to live, however, I am going for those who were more proactive in seeking someone else to lynch.

Nightbringer
08-06-2013, 05:35
I assume El barto is basing it on the following:


Certainly I took it the same way and we had been told that the write ups would have clues about what happened in them.


ah ok, that makes sense then.

The Outsider
08-06-2013, 08:08
So we got.ten players left, two of whom are scum. Hmm, I dont know i have been checking the old posts and there doesnt seem to be much to analyse. However, I have to agree with the nightbringer in that countarach seems to be the most suspicious. Maybe its because of the creepy name :-) so,

vote:countarach

TheLastDays
08-06-2013, 11:34
Halftime Tally:

CountArach: 2 (Nightbringer, The Outsider)

rickinator9: 1 (CountArach)

Not voting: everyone else

What's up, guys, no interest in killing anyone? :cool4:

edse
08-06-2013, 11:48
So we got.ten players left, two of whom are scum.

hmm, :inquisitive:, why do you say this?

Vote: The Outsider

Darth Feather
08-06-2013, 12:05
Halftime Tally:

CountArach: 2 (Nightbringer, The Outsider)

rickinator9: 1 (CountArach)

Not voting: everyone else

What's up, guys, no interest in killing anyone? :cool4:



If I were still alive I would vote :bounce:
I think the town just wants to lose.

rickinator9
08-06-2013, 12:57
hmm, :inquisitive:, why do you say this?

Vote: The Outsider

I guess because there were 3 kills. 2 of those are most likely mafia and 1 could be SK?

Vote: Edse. Damn pirate.

Riedquat
08-06-2013, 13:46
Wait... again, now I don't know why people is voting CountArach, the outsider and/or edse, curiously Visorslash suggested those names yesterday too, the three and I wonder why...
When Monty and chaotix were tied at 2 votes each, was Nightbringer who put Monty in the lead, then when they were 3:3 CountArach voted Monty, unvoted and voted the outsider... for joining the wagon too?, pressure vote to the new guy?, I don't know!
The outsider fault was be to naive and join the super wagon on Monty. Edse, I don't have a clue why, he voted chaotix if I'm not mistaken...

Somebody care to explain?

Riedquat
08-06-2013, 13:48
If I were still alive I would vote :bounce:
I think the town just wants to lose.

Who and why? What is so obvious we are missing?

autolycus
08-06-2013, 14:02
The big question in my mind is who/what our third killer is. We have the fox and one fox hunter, but who is the other killer. For now, I still vote:rickinator

The Outsider
08-06-2013, 14:03
hmm, :inquisitive:, why do you say this?

Vote: The Outsider

Hmmm. I can see that you have been following the game very carefully indeed.... :wall:

Darth Feather
08-06-2013, 14:05
Who and why? What is so obvious we are missing?

By not voting (It's basically a certain way to lose for the town.)

Riedquat
08-06-2013, 15:02
Still 8 hours to go DF!

edse
08-06-2013, 15:33
Hmmm. I can see that you have been following the game very carefully indeed.... :wall:

Last night there were three kills. That would mean three enemies.

Visor
08-06-2013, 15:39
Vote: edse

ever heard of a vigilante?

TheLastDays
08-06-2013, 17:11
Tally - please check for miscounts:

CountArach: 2 (Nightbringer, The Outsider)
rickinator9: 2 (CountArach, autolycus)
edse: 2 (rickinator9, Visorslash)

The Outsider: 1 (edse)

Not voting: Riedquat, Gaius Scribonius Curio, Makrell

Three-Way-Tie! :curtain:

Makrell
08-06-2013, 17:57
need replacement

Riedquat
08-06-2013, 18:49
It seems nobody cares to talk a bit more, I'll vote who actually did brake the tie back then, Vote: Nightbringer

El Barto
08-06-2013, 19:16
Yes, never mind his pretending not to notice poor Barto is dead. :stare:

Riedquat
08-06-2013, 19:53
Yes, never mind his pretending not to notice poor Barto is dead. :stare:

Nightbringer ...right?

Montmorency
08-06-2013, 19:54
I'll make a ghost-request: vote Arach.

Do me this favor.

Montmorency
08-06-2013, 21:46
Edse would not typically vote to save himself.

Where Arach is, it's time to prepare for work.

Where Rick is, it's time to prepare for bed.

Arach will likely save himself unless you act.

Take a chance on me.

Gaius Scribonius Curio
08-06-2013, 22:14
Sorry Montmorency, Rickinator seems the better choice to me, unless you can convince me otherwise...

Vote: Rickinator

The Outsider
08-06-2013, 22:58
unvote;vote:edse

The Outsider
08-06-2013, 22:59
vote:edse

Pirate goes down...

The Outsider
08-06-2013, 23:01
Just in case if that last vote was within the time frame of voting, here it is again

vote:edse

edse
08-06-2013, 23:02
Damn, one minute late.

And this time Monty, I would have voted to save myself :bow:

El Barto
08-06-2013, 23:02
Nightbringer ...right?¡Sí señor!
So I am leaning towards putting el barto on the safe list.
Confused much, Nightbringer?

need replacement
*hops up in the air waving hands*

TheLastDays
08-06-2013, 23:04
Pre-Final Tally:

rickinator9: 3 (CountArach, autolycus, Gaius Sempronius Curio)
edse: 3 (rickinator9, Visorslash, The Outsider)

CountArach: 1 (Nightbringer)
The Outsider: 1 (edse)
Nightbringer: 1 (Riedquat)

Not voting: Makrell

There is a tie! The first vote to break the tie decides!

The Outsider
08-06-2013, 23:05
vote:edse

edse
08-06-2013, 23:06
unvite: vote: rickinator9 and I can! Lol!

TheLastDays
08-06-2013, 23:06
Outsider, you are already voting edse, you could break the tie by removing that vote (which obviously isn't what you want...)

The Outsider
08-06-2013, 23:08
Outsider, you are already voting edse, you could break the tie by removing that vote (which obviously isn't what you want...)

Okaaay.. Now I see, right.

TheLastDays
08-06-2013, 23:08
Alright, VOTING CLOSED!

Give me a moment to sort this mess out...

edse
08-06-2013, 23:10
You really want me dead Outsider, don't you ;). I wish that we lynch him tomorrow if it's okay for everyone?

The Outsider
08-06-2013, 23:11
You really want me dead Outsider, don't you ;). I wish that we lynch him tomorrow if it's okay for everyone?

I sure do buddy, I sure do.:-)

TheLastDays
08-06-2013, 23:16
Hunt for The Fox
End of Day 3!


Today was different from the last day, more akin to the first day of voting. The townspeople couldn't agree on a single target for lynching and the votes were split up between several candidates until three of them appeared to be in a deadlock. Some of the men sighed, reminded of that fateful moment two days ago and it really seemed like history would repeat itself all too quickly. Three men were staring at each other in the middle of the crowd. Three men were ready to fight to their death.

The mayor looked more nervous than ever before and his bodyguards were ready to deal with anyone who would start to question this method of seeking justice. "Is there", his voice failed and he had to fight to regain composure, "is there no one who is ready to make a decision?" He looked around pleadingly. Finally a man stepped forward. "Alright, I vote for..."

"Wait!! Then I vote for this other guy!", another man chimed in and the mayor looked at him, sweating and shaking. The guy kept screaming. "Yes, this other guy, I'll vote for him again!"

"Sorry, friend", the mayor replied nervously, "you only have one vote and..."

"Really?", the face of one of the two tied men brightened and he screamed, "alright, then I change my vote! I vote..."


rickinator9 was lynched.
He was innocent.

Final Tally - there was a tie:

rickinator9: 3 (CountArach, autolycus, Gaius Sempronius Curio) - edse*
edse: 3 (rickinator9, Visorslash, The Outsider)

CountArach: 1 (Nightbringer)
The Outsider: 1 (edse**)
Nightbringer: 1 (Riedquat)

Not voting: Makrell

* tiebreaker vote
** before the tie

It is now NIGHT 3!

Orders due tomorrow, Wednesday, Midnight CET / 6 P.M. US Eastern.




Alive:
edse
Riedquat
autolycus
Nightbringer
Visorslash
Gaius Scribonius Curio
CountArach
Makrell
The Outsider

Lynched:
Montmorency
Darth Feather
rickinator9

Killed:
El Barto
Chaotix
Ishmael
dcmort93
Jarema

The Outsider
08-06-2013, 23:24
So I was right in that the rickinator was innocent afterall... By the way, you did a pretty good job of sorting out the mess that i made in that voting spree ;-)

Montmorency
08-06-2013, 23:26
Well, it's certainly interesting that Gaius popped in - after the day-phase proper had ended - to break the tie and lynch the townie.

The Outsider
08-06-2013, 23:30
Well, it's certainly interesting that Gaius popped in - after the day-phase proper had ended - to break the tie and lynch the townie.

Hmmm. Yes you are right mate, that needs to be taken in to consideration...

Gaius Scribonius Curio
08-06-2013, 23:41
As explanation: the day phase hadn't ended, there was 45 minutes left. As you astutely noted for CountArach, it is morning here. I hadn't voted and thus needed to. The vote is the townie's only action, and the lynch is the town's only weapon.

The vista which I was confronted with was of a three-way tie, all candidates that, as far as I was concerned, were almost indistinguishable from one another. I could have avoided the issue by voting for someone else. I could have escaped censure by following Montmorency's call for CA's execution, but Monty has no more information than anyone else. It was my considered opinion after rereading that Rickinator was more likely to be mafia than CA, and so I voted thus.

I apologise for being wrong, but you'll note that I did leave open the possibility of actually presenting a reason to me. So if you would like to, Montmorency, indulge me, why was CA a better lynch than Rickinator, based on the information that we had before the end of the day?

Edit: For that matter, Outsider, why was edse a better lynch than CA? You changed your tune both swiftly and whole-heartedly...

The Outsider
08-06-2013, 23:54
Edse was not a better lynch than CA, however i was almost certain that rick was innocent and since you chose to vote rick, i had to go for edse who seemes more scummy to save rick.

Ps. Also he really wants to get me lynched soo badly :-)

Gaius Scribonius Curio
08-06-2013, 23:55
Fair enough, but why were you almost sure that Rick was innocent?

The Outsider
08-07-2013, 00:07
Fair enough, but why were you almost sure that Rick was innocent?

I am not sure, the same reason that you thought him worthy for a lynch , lets call it a hunch :-)

CountArach
08-07-2013, 01:07
Just FYI I usually sleep quite late and so won't be able to make votes and comments before any of the deadlines so looking for me to defend myself in the final hour of voting just won't work. Also if you want to kill me that's fine, if you can't think of anyone better. I'll keep working for the Town after I die anyway. We just need more conversation.

Visor
08-07-2013, 02:10
I'd say Nightbringer, Arach and edse are all good lynches.

TheLastDays
08-07-2013, 23:00
Hunt for The Fox
Night 3!


They had decided to stay in for the night, closing and locking all doors and windows. Still they were watchful, knowing who was out there and knowing that they might come for them. They didn't talk much and they didn't need to, they knew what to do and they knew what to look for. Or so they thought. When they were both looking other ways a cupboard door slid open silently and a figure slipped out, closing the distance towards a man who was currently looking out of a window, carefully watching the street outside.

"I'm right here", the figure said with an accent and the man turned around, instantly dashing forward but the killer was ready. He raised a crowbar and smashed it into the man's guts, dropping him to his knees. His own knee met the man's face and before anyone could interfere the weapon in his hand had crushed the skull of the downed victim. Quickly the killer dashed for the window, jumping right through the glass, closely followed by another figure.

In the morning the apartment was found empty except for the badly destroyed body on the floor. None of the men who were investigating the scene knew him and when his name was found to be Kyle Lewis no one could remember ever talking to him...


edse was killed.
He was guilty.


Unlocking the door to his apartment a man in another part of town was glad to finally be home. He closed the door firmly after coming in, locking it, even thinking about barricading it but then he had to shake his head over his own thoughts. Silly. He wouldn't be that scared. Sighing he went for the kitchen and grabbed a beer before walking into his living room.

He almost dropped the bottle when he switched on the lights and stared right at a man sitting in his favourite chair, aiming a gun right at his chest. "Sorry pal", the man said, "you had your last beer this afternoon."

In the morning he was found as well, shot three times but unlike the other dead person that night this one was recognized by quite a lot of the mine workers...


autolycus was killed.
He was innocent

Again all the inhabitants of the town, or at least those who were still alive, convened at the center square,throwing accusations against each other around, ready to keep killing one by one until they had found all criminals and stopped this threat to their lives.

It is now DAY 4!

Voting closes tomorrow, Thursday extended: Friday, Midnight CET / 6 P.M. US Eastern. Votes after the deadline will not be counted, unless there is a tie. If there's a tie the first vote to break it after the deadline decides.

:whip: WOG Warning: - :whip:
If you don't vote during today's phase you are eligible for the WOG/replacement.

Makrell has asked for a replacement and B-Wing has asked to join the game, so hereby Makrell is replaced by B-Wing!
Sorry, Barto, B-Wing asked me to put him down as a reserve shortly after the game started...




Alive:
Riedquat
Nightbringer
Visorslash
Gaius Scribonius Curio
CountArach
Makrell B-Wing
The Outsider

Lynched:
Montmorency
Darth Feather
rickinator9

Killed:
El Barto
Chaotix
Ishmael
dcmort93
Jarema
edse
autolycus

TheLastDays
08-07-2013, 23:17
Something's going wrong when there's more red on the kill-list than on the lynch-list :tongue:

autolycus
08-07-2013, 23:32
Well, we only need one successful scum-lynch to win in theory :)

I like Nightbringer for the lynch.

El Barto
08-08-2013, 00:05
vote:TheLastDays

Visor
08-08-2013, 00:17
Vote: Count Arach

Nightbringer
08-08-2013, 00:42
vote:count arach
for the reasons stated yesterday.

CountArach
08-08-2013, 00:48
FoS: both of you for not trying to do anything with the new information about edse.

I'm on my phone at the moment and I've got a busy day but I'll get to looking at the vote patterns later.

Gaius Scribonius Curio
08-08-2013, 01:20
Are we past actually offering reasoned arguments now? I mean, Visorslash, you may well feel vindicated in that you voted for edse, but that doesn't render you necessarily innocent.

Autolycus, I would err on the side of caution: the fact that there were two kills, and the first was a mafioso, suggests to me that two killers remain. Lynch one today and the remaining one won't be night-killed. Two successful lynches at least will be needed.

Given that there are clearly two factions, I think that it is fair to say that no-one is cleared at this point.

With that in mind, pending a re-read of the thread, Vote: Abstain

autolycus
08-08-2013, 02:29
That comment that we only need one accurate lynch was mostly a joke responding to the last days comment about there being more red in the murdered than the lynched sections, but it is true that theoretically the scum could kill each other off down to one and then, we could lynch that one.

Gaius Scribonius Curio
08-08-2013, 02:59
That comment that we only need one accurate lynch was mostly a joke responding to the last days comment about there being more red in the murdered than the lynched sections, but it is true that theoretically the scum could kill each other off down to one and then, we could lynch that one.

I see. I stand corrected. :bow:

Nightbringer
08-08-2013, 03:26
Well, the only person edse voted for who is still alive is the outsider, and only visorslash and the outsider have voted for edse, so not much elimination can be done on that basis.
Plus, as gaius pointed out it looks like we have more than one faction of killers, so that confuses voting patterns as well since we don't know where chaotix and edse fit into that.

Hence, my vote for count arach based on his continued efforts to get others to be the finger pointers so he can just latch on.

TheLastDays
08-08-2013, 08:26
Hey guys, since I won't be able to make the deadline tonight, I hereby extend today's phase by 24 hours. Voting closes Friday, Midnight CEST / 6 P.M. US Eastern!



So, you have more time. Use it well :verycool:

Riedquat
08-08-2013, 14:39
Plus, as gaius pointed out it looks like we have more than one faction of killers, so that confuses voting patterns as well since we don't know where chaotix and edse fit into that.

Well... they don't fit together very well... edse voted Chaotix on day 1 tying him with Monty :dizzy2:

Oh... vote that was untied previously by you, remember?

CountArach
08-08-2013, 14:54
Hence, my vote for count arach based on his continued efforts to get others to be the finger pointers so he can just latch on.
Just to address this, I'm not really sure what your point is here. Are you suggesting that I'm bandwagonning and only going with popular votes? Because I think you will find that that isn't the case at all. Rather, I've been one of the only people trying to spark conversation and get people talking. That's why I was asking people the other day whether or not they had an opinion. The lynch is the only weapon the town has and the only way to make an educated lynch is to have posts and voting to analyse. In turn, the only way to get those from people is to prod them until they start to recommend people.

So Vote: Nightbringer. Note as a defensive vote but because you are trying to stifle conversation. With the apparent multi-faction nature of this game your previous voting of edse isn't a defence. Not only are you actively trying to kill me off for talking but your lack of a comment at the start of the day phase after the new information about edse came to light strikes me as suspciously wanting to go with an already agreed choice that was easily open to a bandwagon (i.e. me).

I still have been really busy but hopepfully the extended phase will give me a chance to come up with another recommendation if I can see someone better but until then I would ask you to provide some real analysis and also to defend yourself from the charges here. Please inform me why you find me suspicious as well given what I have said here.

CountArach
08-08-2013, 14:56
Urgh I seem to have confused you with Visorslash in my haste. So ignore the bit about your previous vote and also your action at the start of the day phase.

I would also like an explanation from Visorslash about his vote. Voting without explanation is scummy.

Riedquat
08-08-2013, 15:08
Voting without explanation is scummy.

Oh, really? Lets see, Visor voted for scum Chaotix and for scum Edse without much explanation, you must be right, I will put him in top of the suspect list...:no:

CountArach
08-08-2013, 15:26
Oh, really? Lets see, Visor voted for scum Chaotix and for scum Edse without much explanation, you must be right, I will put him in top of the suspect list...:no:
There is still a serial killer too. Who is to say it isn't him? Also voting for your scum partner isn't exactly uncommon.

B-Wing
08-08-2013, 19:07
Hey guys! I'm replacing Makrell. I've read all the write-ups to this point, but haven't read all actual posts by players yet, will try to do that tonight. But I thought I'd share my observations and assumptions about the game set-up while I'm on my lunch break. Apologies if this is all old news by now; just want to throw some ideas out there and maybe open up discussion.

Based on the OP and first write-up, I gathered there was 1 Serial Killer who has regular night kills and 2 "Hunters" (for lack of better term... maybe "assassins" would be more accurate) whose job it is to kill/lynch the SK, whom also have night kills. It also seemed evident that the SK and his two hunters know each others' identities, but are not allowed to reveal to the town.

What I don't understand is this: what is to prevent the SK or his Hunters from killing each other at night right away? The write-ups suggest that they are both capable of it, and indeed two bad guys of some sort have already died at night, but it would seem a pointless set-up if that were the case. I'm guessing the SK can disguise himself each night, effectively redirecting night actions which were meant for him. I'm not sure how the Hunters are (or were) supposed to protect themselves from the SK at night, unless they have some similar ability to avoid/redirect night actions.

Whatever the case, it appears entirely possible that both Hunters are now eliminated, leaving the SK as the only living scum. But if that were true, then it would imply the SK has 2 kills per night, which seems unlikely. So it's very possible there is another scum. That's all I got for now, will get caught up later tonight.

Nightbringer
08-08-2013, 21:21
Hey guys! I'm replacing Makrell. I've read all the write-ups to this point, but haven't read all actual posts by players yet, will try to do that tonight. But I thought I'd share my observations and assumptions about the game set-up while I'm on my lunch break. Apologies if this is all old news by now; just want to throw some ideas out there and maybe open up discussion.

Based on the OP and first write-up, I gathered there was 1 Serial Killer who has regular night kills and 2 "Hunters" (for lack of better term... maybe "assassins" would be more accurate) whose job it is to kill/lynch the SK, whom also have night kills. It also seemed evident that the SK and his two hunters know each others' identities, but are not allowed to reveal to the town.

What I don't understand is this: what is to prevent the SK or his Hunters from killing each other at night right away? The write-ups suggest that they are both capable of it, and indeed two bad guys of some sort have already died at night, but it would seem a pointless set-up if that were the case. I'm guessing the SK can disguise himself each night, effectively redirecting night actions which were meant for him. I'm not sure how the Hunters are (or were) supposed to protect themselves from the SK at night, unless they have some similar ability to avoid/redirect night actions.

Whatever the case, it appears entirely possible that both Hunters are now eliminated, leaving the SK as the only living scum. But if that were true, then it would imply the SK has 2 kills per night, which seems unlikely. So it's very possible there is another scum. That's all I got for now, will get caught up later tonight.

Well, I'm pretty sure that edse was killed by a new killer last night. If you look at the write up it appears that two people killed him together, which has not occurred before. My guess is that there is some sort of town aligned team of 2 that can vig kill together. However, that would leave a kill missing last night, so I'm not sure.

at count arach, my vote for you is based on the fact that you keep asking others to do analysis and find targets, without really coming up with any on your own. Your defensive vote on me is maybe an exception, but that is only really based on my day 1 voting.

Gaius Scribonius Curio
08-08-2013, 22:38
A close reading of the edse kill reveals the following narrative structure:

- Two men are in an apartment.
- Another man enters and kills one (edse).
- The killer leaves and the remaining man pursues him.

This suggests strongly that edse had a partner. My most likely suspect at the moment is Nightbringer.

The fact that edse escaped the lynch yesterday by the skin of his teeth should rule out the Outsider and Visorslash. The lack of action from Riedquat should do the same. I know that it isn't me, and Makrell/B-wing seems unlikely. This leaves CA and Nightbringer.

Since I deem asking the opinion of others a reasonable way of ensuring conversation doesn't stall, I don't see the validity of Nightbringer's argument against CA. Moreover, a suspicious mind, could see your interpretation of the write-up together with your jumping on my suggestion that:

we have more than one faction of killers, so that confuses voting patterns as well since we don't know where chaotix and edse fit into that...
as a deliberate attempt at obfuscation.

So, Vote: Nightbringer

Nightbringer
08-09-2013, 01:41
A close reading of the edse kill reveals the following narrative structure:

- Two men are in an apartment.
- Another man enters and kills one (edse).
- The killer leaves and the remaining man pursues him.

This suggests strongly that edse had a partner.

Ah, that makes more sense. I think I was misreading it as the two men being the killers, rather than the target, based on the pair of figures leaving together. However, that leaves two possibilities. Three (or possibly more, i guess) factions, or a 3+ team of mafia.

The initial write-up features two people in a car together, who seem to be looking for the fox, and also ready to kill townspeople. They make reference to "the others," suggesting that another group is looking for him as well. This suggests either a vigilante or competing mafia group.

Based on death results, I am almost sure this is another mafia group making for a total of three killing factions (plus possible vigs) in the game.

We know chaotix was not the SK.
We know edse had a living partner, therefore not the SK.

So we know we still have the serial killer and Edse's partner on the loose.
Plus, if edse had a partner, then chaotix most likely did too (besides, the initial write-up suggests two groups of at least 2).
This means chaotix' partner is still on the loose.

Therefore, three killing factions still around.


Based on that, I think any attempt to rule people safe based on voting patterns is dangerous. Vislorslash and outsider may be unlikely to be edse's partner, but they could be the SK, and outsider could well be chaotix' partner, so they should not be ruled safe.

Actually, I think that outsider bears some consideration. While saving someone who is new on day 1 is a valid thing to do, chaotix did go out of his way to discourage a vote on outsider. Given his scum status, it is a possibility that this was an attempt to halt the developing majority on his partner. Additionally, outsider contributed to the wagon on mont that saved chaotix.

He was also quite happy to hop onto my attack on CA yesterday, and all of his posts just have an odd feeling about them to me at least. I am going to put a bet on outsider as chaotix' partner.
unvote, vote:outsider

Nightbringer
08-09-2013, 01:45
forgot to include this, but I think you are being a little hasty in ruling out b-wing as edse's partner. We have had mafia players WoG before.

Also, riedquat might have simply deemed trying to jump in at that point too much of a giveaway to risk it.

Visor
08-09-2013, 01:58
There is still a serial killer too. Who is to say it isn't him? Also voting for your scum partner isn't exactly uncommon.
I've come down with tonsilitis and the flu, so I'm feeling pretty terrible. Just voted so that I had a vote in.

In any case, I'll take a look at what's been posted. I like the outsider as a scum prospect, he is very scummy, but I gave him a pass due to being new and other suspects. Now, it is time to take a look at him once more.

Visor
08-09-2013, 01:59
Actually nevermind, I like what Gaius said, and Nightbringer is jumping at everything, so Unvote; Vote: Nightbringer

TheLastDays
08-09-2013, 12:01
Tallyyyyyy:

Nightbringer: 3 (CountArach, Gaius Scribonius Curio, Visorslash)

The Outsider: 1 (Nightbringer)
TheLastDays: 1 (El Barto)

Not voting: Riedquat, B-Wing

Riedquat
08-09-2013, 14:11
Thought I voted yesterday...

Vote: TheLastDays

TheLastDays
08-09-2013, 15:06
I'll let jokes count from dead people but the living players: Please pick a valid vote :wink:

Riedquat
08-09-2013, 15:57
Also voting for your scum partner isn't exactly uncommon.

If that were the case, but he not only voted them, he tied up the vote with Chaotix and put forward the name of edse, together with you and the outsider at the first opportunity, possible for him being a mafia partner but unlikely, and everybody has the same chance to be the sk



It also seemed evident that the SK and his two hunters know each others' identities, but are not allowed to reveal to the town.

:inquisitive: They know each other? Some of them act as sitting ducks while the other kills them of?



Well, I'm pretty sure that edse was killed by a new killer last night. If you look at the write up it appears that two people killed him together, which has not occurred before. My guess is that there is some sort of town aligned team of 2 that can vig kill together. However, that would leave a kill missing last night, so I'm not sure.


Based on death results, I am almost sure this is another mafia group making for a total of three killing factions (plus possible vigs) in the game.

So two kills missing last night then? And what have been doing these vigs the previous nights? If we assume there are 3 teams (sk+chaotix team+edse team) there is no place for vigs...



forgot to include this, but I think you are being a little hasty in ruling out b-wing as edse's partner.

Apart of the fact that every time B-wing tries these mini wall of texts he looks very suspicious to me, I must agree the possibility exist Makrell's inactivity explain the miss of a kill yesterday.



I've come down with tonsilitis and the flu, so I'm feeling pretty terrible.

Get well soon!

Unvote; vote: Nightbringer for day 1 vote!!

TheLastDays
08-09-2013, 19:12
About 4 hours to go:

Nightbringer: 4 (CountArach, Gaius Scribonius Curio, Visorslash, Riedquat)

The Outsider: 1 (Nightbringer)
TheLastDays: 1 (El Barto)

(Still) Not voting: B-Wing, The Outsider (Whom I forgot earlier)

B-Wing
08-09-2013, 19:24
After catching up on the thread, I don't have any strong suspicions, but I do have one thought: going back to Day 2, I know what I likely would have done if I were scum: as soon as it became apparent that Darth Feather was going to be lynched, I would not have wanted to be on that bandwagon. The only living players who did not vote for DF that day are Gaius and Outsider. Of the two, Gaius comes off as slightly less sincere, so even though Nightbringer is probably going down today, I vote: Gaius Scribonius Curio.

Also, don't know if it's relevant, but some observations about the night kills:
Night 1: two people gunned down
Night 2: one person crowbarred to death, one choked lifeless, one shot down
Night 3: one crowbattery, one gunnery

If consistency counts for anything, it looks like the crowbar killer only became active on Night 2. And I think you're right about edse having a living partner. Not sure what that makes Chaotix, considering his character was considered an outsider (no pun intended) to the town.

The Outsider
08-09-2013, 22:03
I have agree with gaius, his theory seems to make sense for the time being so
vote:nightbringer

Ps also my internet connection is terrible right now so if i am not able to vote next day, keep that in mind please.

TheLastDays
08-09-2013, 22:27
Ps also my internet connection is terrible right now so if i am not able to vote next day, keep that in mind please.

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TheLastDays
08-09-2013, 23:03
Hunt for The Fox
End of Day 4!


Again the day went totally different than the one before. It started with discussions as everyone was trying to figure out exactly how many killers were left in town but they came to a great degree of differing conclusions. Mildly frustrated by this the mayor reminded them that they had a duty to vote and when it came to that the town was much more unified.

The man had it coming, they thought. He had been jupming everyone else's conclusions and some said he had actually tried to sabotage the discussions. Some simply didn't like the way his nose was bent downwards. Whatever the reason, it was pretty clear who had to go and when the sun set over the town everyone was waiting what they would find out watching intently as...


Nightbringer was lynched.
He was guilty.

Final Tally:

Nightbringer: 5 (CountArach, Gaius Scribonius Curio, Visorslash, Riedquat, The Outsider)

The Outsider: 1 (Nightbringer)
Gaius Scribonius Curio: 1 (B-Wing)

It is now NIGHT 4!

Orders due tomorrow, Saturday, Midnight CET / 6 P.M. US Eastern.




Alive:
Riedquat
Visorslash
Gaius Scribonius Curio
CountArach
Makrell B-Wing
The Outsider

Lynched:
Montmorency
Darth Feather
rickinator9
Nightbringer

Killed:
El Barto
Chaotix
Ishmael
dcmort93
Jarema
edse
autolycus

El Barto
08-10-2013, 00:59
Finally.

Nightbringer
08-10-2013, 09:19
Ah well. Have at it Fox!

Visor
08-10-2013, 09:31
Do a barrel roll.

Nightbringer
08-10-2013, 11:07
Use the boost to get through the lynch!

/spam

TheLastDays
08-10-2013, 23:44
Sorry guys I'm writing from my phone now. Am on my way home and I hope to have the writeup up in about 30 mins

TheLastDays
08-11-2013, 00:30
Hunt for The Fox
Night 4!


A murmur was going through the crowd when they had finally caught a scumbag in one of their attempts at justice. Even the mayor let out a sigh of relief before sending everyone to their homes: "Remember, we don't know for sure that there are no murderers left. Let's be careful and stay alive."

That's exactly what the man had planned, walking home from the center square to his small house, smiling after a good day. He was even whistling a tune when he suddenly noticed a figure walking towards him. The grim face made him nervous but the little alley was narrow and there was no way to evade the man. They both stopped and the guy didn't say a word while he pulled a crowbar out of his mantle. A grin on his face he prepared to strike but then a shot was heard.

Both men stared at each other until our innocent friend felt a sharp pain in his chest. He grabbed the area of his shirt and felt his warm blood on his own fingers. Staring in disbelief he fell to his knees and breathed his last breaths. The crowbar killer looked back for a moment and then quickly took off, straight away from the shooter. In the morning only the shot body was found and it didn't take long for his friends to step forward and identify...


B-Wing was killed.
He was innocent.



It is now DAY 5!

Voting closes tomorrow, Sunday, Midnight CET / 6 P.M. US Eastern. Votes after the deadline will not be counted, unless there is a tie. If there's a tie the first vote to break it after the deadline decides.

It's a shortened phase, sorry for the writeup being late. If you feel you need more time let me know and I'll see about extending. Sorry again :bow:

:whip: WOG Warning: - :whip:
If you don't vote during today's phase you are eligible for the WOG/replacement.





Alive:
Riedquat
Visorslash
Gaius Scribonius Curio
CountArach
The Outsider

Lynched:
Montmorency
Darth Feather
rickinator9
Nightbringer

Killed:
El Barto
Chaotix
Ishmael
dcmort93
Jarema
edse
autolycus
[S]Makrell B-Wing

CountArach
08-11-2013, 01:13
I'm going to post something more substantial soon but to state the obvious - we need to lynch a scum today or we lose. My only advice would be not to lynch Visorslash unless we are absolutely surw. The lack of a crowbar kill on the first night means that someone probably missed a phase and Visorslash was the only one who posted during that night phase. Thus of the two killers still around he is only likely to be the gun killer. He is the statistically least likely to be a killer.

Visor
08-11-2013, 01:37
3:1:1 (I think?)

What are the odds. In any case, 2/4 ain't bad odds so I'll take a look at our prospective suspects soon.

Gaius Scribonius Curio
08-11-2013, 06:40
This is by no means an exhaustive analysis, but with a 1/3 of the day gone it is worth beginning the discussion proper.

Visorslash has been involved in the lynch of two mafiosi, Nightbringer and edse, and almost tried to lynch Chaotix day one. As CA states is statistically the least likely as he probably cannot be mafia, but could be the SK. Hasn't been especially helpful with his comments, but is not the most suspicious...

CountArach has been under sustained pressure from day 3 onwards, and has not done anything especially wrong imo. Has attempted to engage in reasoned discussion. Again, not at the top of my list.

The Outsider has been lively, and has been content to follow others, though I cannot necessarily fault him for that as a relatively new player.

What concerns me is the ease with which Riedquat has breezed through to this point. His posts have had enough in them to demonstrate involvement in the game, but lack substance. He managed to slip through one day phase without commenting (D3), and followed the rising bandwagon on two others (D2, D4). At no point has he been subjected to any pressure, and as such:

Vote: Riedquat

CountArach
08-11-2013, 07:59
Okay I've read back through the thread and looked at some posts and my list of suspects is at two: Riedquat and Gaius. I'll go through Gaius first.

I would first like to point out his most recent post where he states the following:

What concerns me is the ease with which Riedquat has breezed through to this point. His posts have had enough in them to demonstrate involvement in the game, but lack substance. He managed to slip through one day phase without commenting (D3), and followed the rising bandwagon on two others (D2, D4). At no point has he been subjected to any pressure, and as such:

Vote: Riedquat
This is a perfectly valid observation and I will get to that below when discussing Riedquat. What concerns me however is exactly how applicable this same argument is to Gaius himself. He has received one vote so far (from B-Wing on day 4) and never was really placed under close scrutiny. That's not a fault of his own, but it does show that he really hasn't been sticking his neck out. In fact if you look back over his posts he really hasn't done a lot to get noticed at all. Here are a couple of examples:

While Darth Feather's actions are questionable, I question the wisdom of an overwhelming bandwagon at this early stage...
[...]
Vote: Riedquat

Given that there are clearly two factions, I think that it is fair to say that no-one is cleared at this point.

With that in mind, pending a re-read of the thread, Vote: Abstain
In the first one it was clear that someone was going to be bandwagonned and rather than voting for the person coming second (rickinator) to avoid the overwhelming bandwagon he decides to go and vote for someone with no votes on him at all. This isn't useful and it doesn't do much for anyone. He notes his opposition but doesn't do the one thing in his power to stop it. As for the second case it is interesting that he abstained from voting and then, having gone back and re-read the thread (he claims) he votes for Nightbringer, who was already under scrutiny and had a vote for myself - from there it snowballed into the bandwagon that got Nightbringer killed. None of his suggestions in that case were new evidence.

Okay, so much for Gaius. Now for Reidquat. Looking back over the earlier parts of the game it is remarkable to see how erratic Reidquat was. Here is his first vote for Darth Feather:

o.O I don't even know why people is voting rickinator, the only one having a valid reason is Ishmael, in his mind... ricky's vote was the third or fourth of the previous round, the incidence of his vote was almost non exitant...
DF breakinng the tie was bad but worse with Chaotix revealed, in this situation I don't think it is wise to give him the benefit of the doubt. Vote: Dearth Feather

So he clearly understands what the argument again Darth Feather was - he broke the tie on Montmorency which saved the guilty Chaotix. Yet the next day:

Wait... again, now I don't know why people is voting CountArach, the outsider and/or edse, curiously Visorslash suggested those names yesterday too, the three and I wonder why...
People were voting for the three of us for the exact same reason - we either directly or indirectly contributed to Chaotix living. He also throws out some brief suspicion on Visorslash there without actually exploring it. And then the next day:

It seems nobody cares to talk a bit more, I'll vote who actually did brake the tie back then, Vote: Nightbringer
So here we have a vote for Nightbringer that is a bandwagon and also once again shows that he understands why the voting on the previous day was occurring. Also he then complains about the lack of conversation without actually providing any. This doesn't help the town but it does make him look deceptively like he is helping. And then when B-Wing does actually contribute something we get:

Apart of the fact that every time B-wing tries these mini wall of texts he looks very suspicious to me, I must agree the possibility exist Makrell's inactivity explain the miss of a kill yesterday.
So talking is suddenly a bad thing, yet that directly contradicts what he was saying on the previous day.

So with the erratic voting, the feigned ignorance over the reasons for these votes which allow him to hide in bandwagons and finally an inconsistent view on whether conversation is good I will Vote: Riedquat. Note that I also think Gaius needs to address the issues I raised here.

Gaius Scribonius Curio
08-11-2013, 09:10
This is a perfectly valid observation and I will get to that below when discussing Riedquat. What concerns me however is exactly how applicable this same argument is to Gaius himself. He has received one vote so far (from B-Wing on day 4) and never was really placed under close scrutiny. That's not a fault of his own, but it does show that he really hasn't been sticking his neck out. In fact if you look back over his posts he really hasn't done a lot to get noticed at all. Here are a couple of examples: …

In the first one it was clear that someone was going to be bandwagonned and rather than voting for the person coming second (rickinator) to avoid the overwhelming bandwagon he decides to go and vote for someone with no votes on him at all. This isn't useful and it doesn't do much for anyone. He notes his opposition but doesn't do the one thing in his power to stop it. As for the second case it is interesting that he abstained from voting and then, having gone back and re-read the thread (he claims) he votes for Nightbringer, who was already under scrutiny and had a vote for myself - from there it snowballed into the bandwagon that got Nightbringer killed. None of his suggestions in that case were new evidence….

Note that I also think Gaius needs to address the issues I raised here.

You call for me to address these points, and so I shall. I see three points:

1) Not sticking my neck out enough.
2) Voting for Riedquat rather than Darth Feather/Rickinator.
3) Voting for Nightbringer after thinking about it rather than immediately.

The most obvious response to all of these points is that this fits my usual profile. I am not usually overly vocal. I will use the evidence available to make my points, but you won’t see huge game-changing posts, incorporating huge sections of analysis. I will make a case, but it won’t necessarily be overwhelming. In fact I am far more likely to speak out on behalf on someone rather than speak out against someone – see here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?144957-Hunt-for-The-Fox-IN-PLAY&p=2053541421&viewfull=1#post 2053541421) and here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?144957-Hunt-for-The-Fox-IN-PLAY&p=2053542015&viewfull=1#post2053542015) – which, in my opinion, is sticking my neck out. So much for point 1.

In the specific case of avoiding the bandwagon, I am on the record as being opposed to them in most instances, particularly early in games, when they are usually ill-directed. In those instances, I won’t just vote for the person in second-place, I will vote for someone that I think is a likely suspect: the intent isn’t to elevate the next random person, the intent is to bring to the attention of the town someone who I find suspicious, or worthy of attention. In other words, I didn’t act as I did to promote another candidate: I acted to draw attention to the fact that it was a bandwagon and that early bandwagons are a bad idea. Again, par for the course for me.

Finally, I abstained initially as I was unsure how the evidence pieced together (and too busy to reread the thread immediately). Then, the phase was extended, allowing me to think some more. When I had had a chance to properly compose my thoughts, I deemed Nightbringer the best candidate. It was hardly a roiling bandwagon which I heartily jumped on. You made a decent case, Nightbringer’s response was problematic. My reasoning, which, as you correctly noted, does not add anything particularly novel, was a direct response to Nightbringer’s obfuscation.

As you accurately note, it is not my fault that no one has pressured me. I don’t have any further evidence to support my defence other than an appeal to my previous record: these points raised by you could be raised against me in any other given game. :bow:

CountArach
08-11-2013, 09:48
Thanks for addressing those things. Can someone else vouch for Gaius based on his previous games?

Visor
08-11-2013, 10:38
Vote: Count Arach it is unlikely that Gaius is mafia. Possible serial killer.

CountArach
08-11-2013, 10:40
Vote: Count Arach it is unlikely that Gaius is mafia. Possible serial killer.
Either one has to die today or else we almost certainly lose. Why do you think I am one or the other?

Visor
08-11-2013, 10:43
Actually, the funny thing is, I'm going to reverse that.

Unvote; Vote: Gaius

Reasoning in a minute.

Visor
08-11-2013, 10:50
I think the previous day is a good indicator of who we can expect to be scum.

Count decided to go straight for NB and that means you're likely to be serial killer if you're a killer. With night going straight for you, it exemplifies that.

However, that isn't the only piece of information we have with us. Both players are thinkers. Both players went for the replacement. That to my mind discounts Outsider as SK or mafia then again is the outsider (nb late vote) a gambit or a 'bus? Up to others to decide,

Visor
08-11-2013, 10:54
I should throw out some terrible meta and suggest that Gaius thanked pizza's delayed update post in the rumble and he did so here, so he's scum. :laugh4:

In any case, I dislike Gaius's cautiousness and I think at this stage you need a vote on the field and cautiousness is tool of scum when it comes to first votes on final days.

Gaius isn't mafia. But he may be the SK. I don't think the outsider is scum.

This leaves to me, three choices. Gaius, scumquat, Count. All three good choices and good reasons for all of them in my opinion. If I get this wrong then so be it, but scumquat and gaius are likely candidates to me.

Visor
08-11-2013, 10:54
TheLastDays

Can we have an extension please.

EDIT: oh bloody hell. Completely missed that gaius voted. In that case, I'm happy with a scumquat lynch.

Gaius Scribonius Curio
08-11-2013, 10:56
So in summary:

CA: could be SK
Outsider: probably isn't SK or Mafia, but could be
...
Curio is guilty?

:dizzy2:

Edit: I see now...

OK - a response: I may be 'cautious' but I did take it upon myself to start the discussion today with a reasoned vote.

Why do you need an extension?

Visor
08-11-2013, 10:57
Unvote; Vote: Ried 'Scum' quat

TheLastDays
08-11-2013, 12:23
Guys, let me know via PM if you think an extension is necessary. I'm sorry that my last writeup was late and it should be possible for everyone to weigh in on any given day phase so I'm thinking about pushing the deadlline for 24 hours

TheLastDays
08-11-2013, 12:27
Tally:

Riedquat: 3 (Gaius Scribonius Curio, CountArach, Visorslash)

Not voting: Riedquat, The Outsider

Actually nevermind to PM me, since two players have not been able to respond at all yet and the day phase would be halfway over and The Ousider mentioned internet problems I hereby extend the phase by 24 hours: scratch that

CountArach
08-11-2013, 12:28
Guys, let me know via PM if you think an extension is necessary. I'm sorry that my last writeup was late and it should be possible for everyone to weigh in on any given day phase so I'm thinking about pushing the deadlline for 24 hours

Personally I think it is fine as is. The problem is that there are only 5 people alive and because there is a dead-only QT any dead people aren't really allowed to take part any more.

Riedquat
08-11-2013, 17:38
Me wondering what nerve touched B-wing for both killers going after him... just to discover now both killers voting for same person... poor townquat, I think everybody here can rule out The Outsider as scum right?

I was going to make a multi quoting post answering some concerns, but I'm really pissed off with the forum bringing quotes from nowhere... I better desist! I'm angered!! And sadly here we have an Election's day so I will be busy, not having a clue who of you are the two remaining scum don't help me, so... Vote: CountArach


:bow:

TheLastDays
08-11-2013, 20:05
Ok, sorry for the jumping around but the general consensus (both in thred and via PM) seems to be that no extension is needed, so the round will end today at Midnight CEST / 6 P.M. US Eastern!

TheLastDays
08-12-2013, 00:13
Hunt for The Fox
End of Day 5!


The day began with more accusations because obviously this nightmare wasn't over yet. At least one of those killers was still around and everyone was bent on finding him. A major suspect was soon found and most of the voters united against him, pressuring him more and more as the day continued. He remained quiet though, not saying much at all as if he knew that nothing could ever happen to him.

Smiling he already awaited them at the end of the day when they approached him to present their final verdict: "You are guilty and you will have to die."

"Oh, really?", he almost seemed amused as he looked from face to face, "Try, if you must". With that he pulled a gun out of his jacket and a fierce expression filled his eyes as he pointed it at the man closest to him. "You stay back and leave me alone. I will not die, not here, not by the hands of filth like yourselves."

A man shook his head: "We are too many, just accept it." BANG! The guy gave a warning shot into the air but the townspeople kept advancing. BANG! Another shot, this time into the ground, not far from the feet of one man who approached with a baseball bat. It stopped them for a moment as the killer was backed into a wall, looking like a caged, injured animal ready to strike. A few moments later one of the volunteer executioners stepped forward.

BOOM! Another shot, but this one was much louder and everyone looked around confused as the killer slumped back against a wall. The mayor stepped forward, a shotgun in his hand, looking down at the body that slowly slid down to the ground he kicked the other's gun away with his foot and watched with satisfaction as the life left the body in front of him. He turned around: "Alright, let's hope that this was it. It feels good to finally know for sure that we were right about..."


Riedquat was lynched.
He was guilty.

Final Tally:

Riedquat: 3 (Gaius Scribonius Curio, CountArach, Visorslash)

CountArach: 1 (Riedquat)

Not voting: The Outsider

It is now NIGHT 5!

Orders due tomorrow, Monday, Midnight CET / 6 P.M. US Eastern.




Alive:
Visorslash
Gaius Scribonius Curio
CountArach
The Outsider

Lynched:
Montmorency
Darth Feather
rickinator9
Nightbringer
Riedquat

Killed:
El Barto
Chaotix
Ishmael
dcmort93
Jarema
edse
autolycus
Makrell B-Wing

CountArach
08-12-2013, 01:04
Huzzah now to kill the crowbar one.

Riedquat
08-12-2013, 15:11
Huzzah now to kill the crowbar one.

How would you do that? :inquisitive:

The Outsider
08-12-2013, 16:31
Hey guys, I am back for the time being but not quite sure how long the internet will survive. I am glad to see that you have managed to take down another scum. Do you guys have any idea about who might be guilty? I would like to vote before loosing my connection again.

El Barto
08-12-2013, 18:23
fos: the Outsider
How would you do that? :inquisitive:
Quickly?

Riedquat
08-12-2013, 19:40
Quickly?

Good luck trying! ;)

The Outsider
08-12-2013, 19:50
Good luck trying! ;)

is that supposed to hint something that we domt know?

The Outsider
08-12-2013, 20:11
Now that i think about it, in the beginning, lastdays mentioned that the game will be experimental... There were more scum than it was mentioned in the story line so i believe that was experimental. But since this is my first game i cant be sure. I wonder if there is something elsethat is experimental as well...

Riedquat
08-12-2013, 20:50
is that supposed to hint something that we domt know?

No! It is supposed to hint to something we don't know! ;)


Now that i think about it, in the beginning, lastdays mentioned that the game will be experimental... There were more scum than it was mentioned in the story line so i believe that was experimental. But since this is my first game i cant be sure. I wonder if there is something elsethat is experimental as well...

Oh! Yes yes! TLD also experimented writing the write-ups with his little fingers!! There are so many things you don't know yet...but soon! And some sooner than others! :yes:

The Outsider
08-12-2013, 21:42
No! It is supposed to hint to something we don't know! ;)



Oh! Yes yes! TLD also experimented writing the write-ups with his little fingers!! There are so many things you don't know yet...but soon! And some sooner than others! :yes:

Hmmm.. The troll is strong in this one ;-)

The Outsider
08-12-2013, 21:46
Well, I am not sure if I can find anyone as scummy right now and I might loose connection again so in order to avoid wog:

vote:abstain

Unless someone can convince me otherwise.

TheLastDays
08-12-2013, 22:09
It's night :yes:

The Outsider
08-12-2013, 22:17
It's night :yes:

Ahaa! I knew that something was fishy :-) :-)

Riedquat
08-12-2013, 23:50
:quiet:

Rule 17: Never assume the new player is harmless.

El Barto
08-13-2013, 00:07
is that supposed to hint something that we domt know?
We do know that there is a glass of Malbec in front of Riedquat.

TheLastDays
08-13-2013, 00:19
Hunt for The Fox
Night 5!


The town was silent at night, nobody heard a thing and in the morning three men gathered in the central square. They were waiting for others to come and for the mayor to show up to open the day's voting session but nothing happened. Someone then knocked on the door to the mining administration and noticed it was open. Carefully they ventured inside, quickly discovering two dead bodies - the mayor's bodyguards. They found their leader back in the office, slumped over his desk - dead, brutally beaten.

They all left the building quickly and noticed again how silent the town was - dead silent. They went to look in another building and found everyone dead, beaten up like the mayor. With a growing sense of dread they searched the whole town, together because none wanted to let the other two out of sight. What they found was devastating. No one was left, only the three of them. They found the last body while returning to the central square. He must have been killed just before morning, the crowbar had been rammed through his chest and was still there. They swallowed hard, before taking a closer look. The body belonged to...


Visorslash was killed.
He was innocent.



It is now DAY 6!

Voting closes tomorrow, Tuesday, Midnight CET / 6 P.M. US Eastern. Votes after the deadline will not be counted, unless there is a tie. If there's a tie the first vote to break it after the deadline decides.




Alive:
Gaius Scribonius Curio
CountArach
The Outsider

Lynched:
Montmorency
Darth Feather
rickinator9
Nightbringer
Riedquat

Killed:
El Barto
Chaotix
Ishmael
dcmort93
Jarema
edse
autolycus
[S]Makrell B-Wing
Visorslash

Gaius Scribonius Curio
08-13-2013, 00:54
To summarise: two town, one killer. A 50/50 proposition of hitting the killer. The wages of failure are death and defeat.

I'm not sure exactly where to go from here. A quick review of the kill write-ups reveals that we have, over the course of the five nights we have: a gun-killer active every night except the last, who must be identified with Riedquat; a crowbar killer active every night except the first, who is our target; a woman with a gun who was active the first night, then not again, I would suggest that this represents Chaotix; a strangler, active on night 2, who could be Nightbringer or edse.

In other words, the surviving mafioso could be aligned with either Chaotix or Nightbringer based on kill patterns. Since all three of us voted for Nightbringer, a link with Chaotix is more likely, but not certain.

Taking each possibility: a link between either myself or CA with Nightbringer is all but impossible given that we began gunning for his lynch comparatively early. As Visorslash stated yesterday, however, Nightbringer's vote switch to The Outsider, and the Outsider's corresponding vote, could conceivably be a bus.

In terms of possible links to Chaotix: I was uninvolved in the wrangling surrounding his possible lynching - make of that what you will; CA changed his initial vote from Nightbringer to Monty when he and Chaotix had become the clear frontrunners, but then almost immediately changed it to The Outsider, who had, in the meantime voted for Monty also. In the end, The Outsider's vote was instrumental in saving Chaotix, but I would not put such an audacious switch of support past CA.

Moreover, what Riedquat says regarding new players, confirmed mafioso though he is, remains valid, particularly if talked through the game by someone of Chaotix' calibre...

In short, from the above, I would lean towards The Outsider as our final mafioso, but I will reserve judgement until I have heard from others.

CountArach
08-13-2013, 01:35
I imagine that in fact we are just down to a SK in which case looking at previous connections is pointless.

I'm very much tempted to think that you are the SK, Gaius, given that we know the SK is being quite clever with their kills. For example it had been flagged that Visorslash could not be the SK earlier and now he dies at the final point when we know that we are down to the SK only. That strikes me as a move that an experienced player would make.

So Vote: Gaius Scribonius Curio though if a strong enough case can be made I'm open to voting for The Outsider.

Gaius Scribonius Curio
08-13-2013, 03:10
I'll try and point this out more clearly. Here is a graph of all the killers written up, starting at night 1 and proceeding to night 5:

Chaotix: Y - - - -
Riedquat: Y Y Y Y -
Strangler: - Y - - -
Crowbar: - Y Y Y Y

We know of five killers: likely divided between two 'mafia' and one SK, given that we know of one group of two being surprised by another killer. This makes more sense than having one group of two and three singles.

Given the lack of kills, and the write-up of edse's murder, we know that some mafiosi have not been killing. But the SK is constrained into having to kill - every time he chooses not to, the possibility of him being caught increases. The final killer did not kill night 1, when Chaotix did, whereas Riedquat did kill every night that he was alive. This indicates to me that the final killer is likely a mafia partner of Chaotix. Do you have an agenda pushing the SK line I wonder?

You say that the killing of Visorslash is an 'experienced' move: as you well know, I am not an experienced mafioso. Furthermore, it doesn't take experience to realise, as a mafioso, that bringing someone who is deemed an 'unlikely killer' into the final round is dangerous. More to the point, if this person were an ally of Chaotix, why could he not continue to advise. There is no constraint that forces one to not contribute further, after death.

I am still not certain, given your pushing of the SK line, but Vote: The Outsider, pending what he has to say...

The Outsider
08-13-2013, 07:19
Well, there is no way of being sure but I am almost convinced that CA is innocent. Gaius you have been making long and seemingly convincing but superficial analysis since the begining. I do remember reading in the faq and in the old games that a simple townie does not usually go that much in to detail. It seems that you have been very carefull to hide your tracks and to divert attention at others. I am sorry but you shall not have the pleasure of killing all the reamaining townies. So
vote:gaius scribonius curio

Gaius Scribonius Curio
08-13-2013, 07:27
@ The Outsider: you must be misinformed. A good townie will always attempt to lay out as much information as possible. This is not, usually, very much, but the game is about the informed (mafia) attempting to defeat the misinformed (town). The more information the town has, the better its chances of finding the mafia. If, as in a game such as this, where there is a wealth of information available, the town does not try to take advantage of it, it deserves to lose.

I can assure you, were I mafia I would not be going to such lengths to lay out so much information for the two of you (in what way is it superficial?), I would be trying to desperately to avoid saying anything incriminating and hoping that noone remembered that I was there. Or, alternatively, misinforming you...

So why are you not mafia?

Riedquat
08-13-2013, 14:44
I'm very much tempted to think that you are the SK, Gaius, given that we know the SK is being quite clever with their kills.

Of course, and the rest of us are a bunch of dumb people... no? Thanks?


I'll try and point this out more clearly. Here is a graph of all the killers written up, starting at night 1 and proceeding to night 5:

Chaotix: Y - - - -
Riedquat: Y Y Y Y -
Strangler: - Y - - -
Crowbar: - Y Y Y Y

Sorry but, why the Y's I kill with K's of Kilo... it adds weight to my choices...



Well, there is no way of being sure but I am almost convinced that CA is innocent.

Why exactly? I'm dead suspicious of him...


Gaius you have been making long and seemingly convincing but superficial analysis since the begining.

No and really no. In the beginning he did a couple of meaningless posts or at least with no much substance, but there wasn't any info to talk about, but later he became himself and started doing these good and nice analysis as he always does when town.


I do remember reading in the faq and in the old games that a simple townie does not usually go that much in to detail.

It depends on the player mostly but I agree Gaius analysis are very detailed... perhaps to much?


I can assure you, were I mafia I would not be going to such lengths to lay out so much information for the two of you

I can assure you I'm not mafia!! pff... If you are mafia you should do exactly the same you do as townie... it is the perfect cover ;)

Now... back to the popcorn!

:pop2:

autolycus
08-13-2013, 20:51
I have not read the dead QT, and I think GSC is clean. Please reconsider, whichever of the other two is town.

TheLastDays
08-13-2013, 21:09
I have not read the dead QT, and I think GSC is clean. Please reconsider, whichever of the other two is town.

Yea just wanted to make clear that this is allowed. Dead who have not visited the dead qt can still post here.

Gaius Scribonius Curio
08-13-2013, 21:49
Unvote: The Outsider

I don't know what to think any more. I am disappointed at the total lack of engagement with my reasoned responses to both CountArach and The Outsider's concerns. The other, remaining, townie has just over an hour to make the right decision, yet neither other participant has made more the most cursory attempt to involve themself in a discussion/presentation of information aimed at finding the killer.

I despair for the town now...

Riedquat
08-13-2013, 22:30
Unvote: The Outsider

I don't know what to think any more. I am disappointed at the total lack of engagement with my reasoned responses to both CountArach and The Outsider's concerns. The other, remaining, townie has just over an hour to make the right decision, yet neither other participant has made more the most cursory attempt to involve themself in a discussion/presentation of information aimed at finding the killer.

I despair for the town now...

I feel your sorrow, I was expecting a most entertaining last day too.

The Outsider
08-13-2013, 22:39
Ok so i would like to let you guys know that i have sent a massage to gaius and it is as follows:

"Hi mate, I think that the PMs are forbidden so by all means lets keep this confidential. I might regret this later but im starting to beleıve that you are actually innocent. if thats the case i am going to ask you to vote CA and i will support you. meanwhile i neither have the means nor the time to prove you that im innocent you will have to beleive me just because im giving you this chance. if ı was scum, i would let you get lynched and take care of CA afterwards there would not have been anypoint of risking things. so go ahead and make your mind but please be quick about it. And i really, really hope that you are not scum..."

So if this is going to result in me being wogged or not included in the future games thats fine with me but if not than you guys should know that im torn between the right choice and something tells me to do this:

unvote,vote:countarach

Gaius Scribonius Curio
08-13-2013, 22:44
Thanks for the open honesty. That is truly admirable. :bow:

I will also reveal that I immediately informed TheLastDays, who was going to address this after the game.

Vote: CountArach, since I always intended to, and was hoping the The Outsider would realise my innocence.

Montmorency
08-13-2013, 22:46
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:brood:

The Outsider
08-13-2013, 22:59
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:brood:

You know what to hell with it. I have already told you that i couldnt decide so gaius might be just trying to convince me other wise and i must say that montmorency's song fuelled this. If i am wrong the town is doomed anyway soo

unvote:vote:Gaius Scribonius Curio

TheLastDays
08-13-2013, 23:00
VOTING CLOSED!

:end:

TheLastDays
08-13-2013, 23:29
Hunt for The Fox
End of Day 6!


With the mayor dead and just three men left there was no real voting this day. Mostly the three men stared at each other, trying to bury into each other's minds, deciphering their thoughts. What could be going on in the mind of a killer? Who was it? A few ideas were discussed and neither of the three seemed to be able to make up their minds.

The day's end drew closer and suddenly The Outsider seemed to have a change of mind. He was one of the younglings in the town. He had never experienced these 'games' before and he had been doubting his reasonings the whole time but now he was about to take action. He turned towards CountArach, one of the older men who had lived here almost all their lives. "It's you, I don't know how and why and I don't care. You and your... your friends... you killed ALL THESE PEOPLE!" Gaius Scribonius Curio just nodded his approval and made it clear that he was ready to help The Outsider in whatever he was about to do. CountArach just stared at both of them, his eyes wide open. "How...?"

He didn't get to finish his question as The Outsider had another change of heart. He doubted again: "Wait... what if Gaius Scribonius Curio is just trying to convince me?", he turned towards the man behind him, who replied: "What? Hey, man, you started about Arach! I didn't..."

"Also... I hear music... the music... it's telling me to turn on you!", now both the others were just staring at The Outsider and Gaius pleaded with CountArach: "Come on, this guy's crazy..." He didn't get any further as an enraged Outsider jumped on him, tackling him to the ground and at this point CountArach basically had no choice but to join in the attack against the man he had been proclaiming as guilty the whole day. The two were beating up on Gaius Scribonius Curio relentlessly and they didn't stop until the body beneath them stopped twitching and lay lifeless in the mud.

Breathing heavily they now stared at each other, as The Outsider started to smile. He didn't quite know what he was smiling about though and his smile froze immediately as he saw what exactly CountArach had used in his attack: A bloody, black crowbar...

Gaius Scribonius Curio was lynched.
He was guilty.


CountArach noticed the other's staring and dropped the crowbar, smiling and extending his hand: "Hey I brought it from the body we found. Just thought it'd come in handy... You... are not crazy, right?" Now The Outsider smiled again, pulling a passport from the dead body's jacket. "Do I look like a crazy man? I know exactly what I'm doing." With that he showed the passport to CountArach. It belonged to one Sergej Kolcin. Both nodded and The Outsider shook the other's hand. "Well done, hm?"

"Aye, well done."

Final Tally:

Gaius Scribonius Curio: 2 (CountArach, The Outsider)

CountArach: 1 (Gaius Scribonius Curio)



TOWN VICTORY!


Alive:

CountArach
The Outsider

Lynched:
Montmorency
Darth Feather
rickinator9
Nightbringer
Riedquat
Gaius Scribonius Curio

Killed:
El Barto
Chaotix
Ishmael
dcmort93
Jarema
edse
autolycus
Makrell B-Wing
Visorslash

TheLastDays
08-13-2013, 23:33
Let me talk about the PM issue quickly:

The Outsider, don't be too harsh on yourself. After all this was your first game and it was a tough choice. You should learn from it that going against the rules is frowned upon among most Mafia players so if you just refrain from that in the future everything should be fine - In the end I decided not to let the PM have a real effect on the game. I made the rule about private communication so there would be no reveals and such in private. In The Outsider's PM no new information was presented to Gaius so I decided not to punish it in a gameplay sense.

Montmorency
08-13-2013, 23:33
Last-minute saves are always glorious.

And this was a tight game, too. Well done.

Montmorency
08-13-2013, 23:39
By the way, TLD, are the player-lists carrying a couple of typos or have we all been tricked?

TheLastDays
08-13-2013, 23:43
The Setup

Our Scums


Riedquat:


Hunt for The Fox
You are:

The Fox

http://images.colourbox.com/thumb_COLOURBOX6742966.jpg

As an internationally operating secret agent you have crossed, betrayed and played so many of your employers, among which even today's superpowers can be found, that even you can't keep track on the various international conflicts you have created or avoided, whatever your mission was at a given time. You have decided that the noose is tightening a little too much for your own comfort and you wish to retire with money not being an issue, even if you should live a few human lifespans.

Now of course you are still holding a lot of secrets in your hands and a lot of your former employers would literally kill to get these into their hands, so they will not let you simply vanish into pension without trying to squeeze everything they can out of you... and the possibility to punish you for various betrayals in the process is all the more motivation to get their hands on you. You have evaded almost all of them, only the KGB and the CIA are still at your heels and they are overextending as well.

Two agents each have followed you into this small mining town. This is their last grasp at you and they are desperate but that only makes them even more dangerous. They have the advantage of numbers and... they know who you are!

Another danger comes from this community. They have found the first body you had to kill and they are organizing a game of what they call justice. They will vote on whoever they want to lynch and the town's rough miners will see it done.

But you have one advantage: Neither the KGB nor the CIA can expose you as long as the other party is still around because they know you'd betray their dirty secrets to them and they cannot off you secretly because in a straight up fight they're simply no match for you. They can only try to get you lynched and if that happens while both are still around you will instantly expose them to the others and the townspeople. This means they will be preoccupied with each other, at least in the beginning.

For you, on the other hand, there can only be one favorable outcome to all of this, enabling you to get away without having to look over your shoulder for the rest of your life:
Leave none alive!

Victory Condition: Basically a Serial Killer. You have to kill everyone. If at any time, either during a night or day phase, you end up alone with only one more player alive you will instantly kill him and win the game.

Important things to note:

1. You are immune to night kills.
2. You can choose to kill 1 person each night.
3. There are 2 teams of Mafia with 2 players each. They both know who you are but they don't know each other.
4. The Mafia have to deal with each other before they can deal with you or the town. Should they


(a) get you lynched, while both Mafia factions are still alive you will betray all their secrets and them to the other team and the town. This will result in a town victory.

(b) kill all the town, while both Mafia factions are still alive you will threaten both to expose their secrets to the others and be able to escape. This will result in your victory.


5. They know of all this as well so to find them you will have to figure out what they'll do to work with these limitations. I probably don't have to tell you that you definitely don't want to be in a situation where only one of the Mafia factions remains.

Any questions? Shoot me a PM or contact me on YIM! Good luck! :yes:



Chaotix:


Hunt for The Fox
You are:

https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y244/elephunkadelic/7.jpg

Alesja Lavricova
an agent with the KGB!

http://citelighter-cards.s3.amazonaws.com/p17lkm7el5j6h18gboeggfg148i0_9633.jpg

You live for the committee, loyal to your last drop of blood you have sworn to hunt down whoever opposes your country. Your task here is simple: Kill the lunatic known as "The Fox" without letting him spill your secrets to the enemy. The CIA is here as well, you know that much and you can only assume that their goals are similar to your own.

You know exactly what the Fox looks like. It's XYZ!

But just because your task is simple doesn't make it easy. You can't just kill the guy at night. He's too quick, too strong and would simply turn the tables on you, so don't even try. Maybe this little "lynching game" that the townspeople are setting up after they discovered the poor fella that must have stumbled into the Fox' path can help you. If you can get them to lynch him... Even he couldn't stand up to all of them.

But no, at least not until you have dealt with the CIA. They're the real threat here. If you get the Fox' head on the chopping block while they are still around he might talk too much or even try to break out with their help, promising them information. No, you cannot let this happen. They have to be dealt with first. But after that the sneaky Fox will have nowhere to run. And then? Well, you don't need any witnesses, so your goal is clear.

Leave none alive!



Victory Condition: The other Mafia team (CIA), the serial killer (The Fox) and the town are dead.

Your partner is ZYX!

Important things to note:

1. You are not immune to night kills!
2. You and your partner can choose to kill 1 person each night (the two of you together, not each of you). You don't have to kill.
3. There is another team of Mafia, the CIA, opposed to you.
4. You have to deal with them first. Should you


(a) get the Fox lynched, while the other Mafia faction is still alive he will betray all your secrets and yourself to the other team and the town. This will result in a town victory.

(b) kill all the town, while the other Mafia faction is still alive the Fox will threaten both to expose their secrets to the others and be able to escape. This will result in a serial killer victory.


5. The Fox knows about you and the CIA but he doesn't know who you are.
6. The CIA knows about you but doesn't know your identity. They know who the Fox is, just like you and have the same objectives.

Any questions? Shoot me a PM or contact me on YIM! Good luck! :yes:



Gaius Scribonius Curio:


Hunt for The Fox
You are:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3fJPbcV_lUg/UJjUTUjBW3I/AAAAAAAAhpM/qTpGi2-hqoE/s1600/Khodorkovsky.jpg

Sergej Kolcin
an agent with the KGB!

http://citelighter-cards.s3.amazonaws.com/p17lkm7el5j6h18gboeggfg148i0_9633.jpg

You live for the committee, loyal to your last drop of blood you have sworn to hunt down whoever opposes your country. Your task here is simple: Kill the lunatic known as "The Fox" without letting him spill your secrets to the enemy. The CIA is here as well, you know that much and you can only assume that their goals are similar to your own.

You know exactly what the Fox looks like. It's XYZ!

But just because your task is simple doesn't make it easy. You can't just kill the guy at night. He's too quick, too strong and would simply turn the tables on you, so don't even try. Maybe this little "lynching game" that the townspeople are setting up after they discovered the poor fella that must have stumbled into the Fox' path can help you. If you can get them to lynch him... Even he couldn't stand up to all of them.

But no, at least not until you have dealt with the CIA. They're the real threat here. If you get the Fox' head on the chopping block while they are still around he might talk too much or even try to break out with their help, promising them information. No, you cannot let this happen. They have to be dealt with first. But after that the sneaky Fox will have nowhere to run. And then? Well, you don't need any witnesses, so your goal is clear.

Leave none alive!



Victory Condition: The other Mafia team (CIA), the serial killer (The Fox) and the town are dead.

Your partner is ZYX!

Important things to note:

1. You are not immune to night kills!
2. You and your partner can choose to kill 1 person each night (the two of you together, not each of you). You don't have to kill.
3. There is another team of Mafia, the CIA, opposed to you.
4. You have to deal with them first. Should you


(a) get the Fox lynched, while the other Mafia faction is still alive he will betray all your secrets and yourself to the other team and the town. This will result in a town victory.

(b) kill all the town, while the other Mafia faction is still alive the Fox will threaten both to expose their secrets to the others and be able to escape. This will result in a serial killer victory.


5. The Fox knows about you and the CIA but he doesn't know who you are.
6. The CIA knows about you but doesn't know your identity. They know who the Fox is, just like you and have the same objectives.

Any questions? Shoot me a PM or contact me on YIM! Good luck! :yes:



Nightbringer:


Hunt for The Fox
You are:

http://www.stickboydaily.com/images/2013/01/The-CIA-in-the-movies-6.jpg

Claire Fairbanks
an agent with the CIA!

http://www.nshss.org/images/logos---partners/cia_color-logo.png?sfvrsn=6

You live for the agency, loyal to your last drop of blood you have sworn to hunt down whoever opposes your country. Your task here is simple: Kill the lunatic known as "The Fox" without letting him spill your secrets to the enemy. The KGB is here as well, you know that much and you can only assume that their goals are similar to your own.

You know exactly what the Fox looks like. It's XYZ!

But just because your task is simple doesn't make it easy. You can't just kill the guy at night. He's too quick, too strong and would simply turn the tables on you, so don't even try. Maybe this little "lynching game" that the townspeople are setting up after they discovered the poor fella that must have stumbled into the Fox' path can help you. If you can get them to lynch him... Even he couldn't stand up to all of them.

But no, at least not until you have dealt with the KGB. They're the real threat here. If you get the Fox' head on the chopping block while they are still around he might talk too much or even try to break out with their help, promising them information. No, you cannot let this happen. They have to be dealt with first. But after that the sneaky Fox will have nowhere to run. And then? Well, you don't need any witnesses, so your goal is clear.

Leave none alive!



Victory Condition: The other Mafia team (KGB), the serial killer (The Fox) and the town are dead.

Your partner is ZYX!

Important things to note:

1. You are not immune to night kills!
2. You and your partner can choose to kill 1 person each night (the two of you together, not each of you). You don't have to kill.
3. There is another team of Mafia, the KGB, opposed to you.
4. You have to deal with them first. Should you


(a) get the Fox lynched, while the other Mafia faction is still alive he will betray all your secrets and yourself to the other team and the town. This will result in a town victory.

(b) kill all the town, while the other Mafia faction is still alive the Fox will threaten both to expose their secrets to the others and be able to escape. This will result in a serial killer victory.


5. The Fox knows about you and the KGB but he doesn't know who you are.
6. The KGB knows about you but doesn't know your identity. They know who the Fox is, just like you and have the same objectives.

Any questions? Shoot me a PM or contact me on YIM! Good luck! :yes:



edse:


Hunt for The Fox
You are:

http://img2-3.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/100827/fresh-faces/undercovers-boris-kodjoe_400.jpg

Kyle Lewis
an agent with the CIA!

http://www.nshss.org/images/logos---partners/cia_color-logo.png?sfvrsn=6

You live for the agency, loyal to your last drop of blood you have sworn to hunt down whoever opposes your country. Your task here is simple: Kill the lunatic known as "The Fox" without letting him spill your secrets to the enemy. The KGB is here as well, you know that much and you can only assume that their goals are similar to your own.

You know exactly what the Fox looks like. It's XYZ!

But just because your task is simple doesn't make it easy. You can't just kill the guy at night. He's too quick, too strong and would simply turn the tables on you, so don't even try. Maybe this little "lynching game" that the townspeople are setting up after they discovered the poor fella that must have stumbled into the Fox' path can help you. If you can get them to lynch him... Even he couldn't stand up to all of them.

But no, at least not until you have dealt with the KGB. They're the real threat here. If you get the Fox' head on the chopping block while they are still around he might talk too much or even try to break out with their help, promising them information. No, you cannot let this happen. They have to be dealt with first. But after that the sneaky Fox will have nowhere to run. And then? Well, you don't need any witnesses, so your goal is clear.

Leave none alive!



Victory Condition: The other Mafia team (KGB), the serial killer (The Fox) and the town are dead.

Your partner is ZYX!

Important things to note:

1. You are not immune to night kills!
2. You and your partner can choose to kill 1 person each night (the two of you together, not each of you). You don't have to kill.
3. There is another team of Mafia, the KGB, opposed to you.
4. You have to deal with them first. Should you


(a) get the Fox lynched, while the other Mafia faction is still alive he will betray all your secrets and yourself to the other team and the town. This will result in a town victory.

(b) kill all the town, while the other Mafia faction is still alive the Fox will threaten both to expose their secrets to the others and be able to escape. This will result in a serial killer victory.


5. The Fox knows about you and the KGB but he doesn't know who you are.
6. The KGB knows about you but doesn't know your identity. They know who the Fox is, just like you and have the same objectives.

Any questions? Shoot me a PM or contact me on YIM! Good luck! :yes:


The rest of you were all Vanilla Townies and you've all seen the PM.

So, the Setup included a serial killer who basically just had to kill everyone. Simple, right?

There were also 2 Mafia factions with 2 members each. So, five scums in a small game. Too much? Nope, apparently not.

They were opposed to each other. They knew who the Serial Killer was but not who the other Mafia team was. They were not allowed to kill the whole town or lynch the serial killer (whom they couldn't nightkill anyway) before the other Mafia team was killed. So they had to balance weakening the town and giving the SK more chance at winning. They also had to do some scumhunting themselves.

The same goes for the SK, he had to find the scums and take care of them at almost the same time because once only one team was left, they knew who he was and could try to get him lynches. In this case Gaius succeeded at that and the Mafia and the Town fought until the last round soooo...

All in all I am pretty satisfied with how this turned out. The SK survived until the penultimate day phase, the Mafia and Town duked it out in the very last phase possible so everyone had a good chance of winning, even though Gaius' and Chaotix' team took a pretty bad hit during the first night, where BOTH Riedquat and the CIA targetted Chaotix (by accident I suppose, at least the CIA confirmed that).

So, everyone, thanks for playing, well done, congrats to all the scums who made this a good and close game and big congrats to the town who pulled through in the end! :bow:

If you have any more questions, comments, feedback, etc. go right ahead :yes:

EDIT: Quicktopic Links: Dead (http://quicktopic.com/50/H/kxAaLAhdzfAh) CIA (http://quicktopic.com/50/H/WGYATN5kQtjpK) KGB (http://quicktopic.com/50/H/irBGsVSwAagYx)

TheLastDays
08-13-2013, 23:45
Last-minute saves are always glorious.

And this was a tight game, too. Well done.

Thanks. Fixed that.

Montmorency
08-13-2013, 23:56
For the edification of the players:

Gaius dropped a number of scum-tells in the endgame, but the last, and biggest by far - and possibly what tripped off Outsider - was


Vote: CountArach, since I always intended to,

As a straightforward townie, he would have almost certainly voted Arach right away, or at least he would have once Arach voted him. While it's certainly a plausible move that a guileless townie might antagonize the only undecided player in a showdown if he truly believed that this third player were the guilty party, following it up with a line like that above not only nullifies the towniness of the original vote, but subverts it in a huge way.

Let this be a lesson to you all.

Nightbringer
08-13-2013, 23:56
Wow, that really did surprise me. I thought for sure Gaius was innocent the whole time. Well played!

In any case, good game all!

Gaius Scribonius Curio
08-14-2013, 00:05
At Monty: I realised this after the fact. What I meant/actually intended to say was:

'Vote: Count Arach, not because The Outsider told me to in a PM, but because it is the only viable option...'

Thanks to TheLastDays for an excellent and entertaining set-up, and the other players for a hard-fought game...

Visor
08-14-2013, 00:41
Well that was a close one. I like the setup TLD, and the game was definitely enjoyable.

So close Gaius, well played.

Riedquat
08-14-2013, 00:44
Congratz town!!

Oh! GSC, I knew it was you since your #70 post! I also told TLD about it! :P But B-wing had a so clear sight of the game mechanics that made me reconsider my convictions!! That was my second mistake... first was lynching Nightbringer... he was so scummy for a moment I believed him town too! In my eyes your play was perfect, including post #70!! :bow:

Dcmort93, I'm sorry to have you killed so soon but after accidentally killing Chaotix my next target needed to be a really low risk one and there existed the possibility your lack of activity and the lack of a kill from one team were linked!

Visor
08-14-2013, 00:57
Congratz town!!

Oh! GSC, I knew it was you since your #70 post! I also told TLD about it! :P But B-wing had a so clear sight of the game mechanics that made me reconsider my convictions!! That was my second mistake... first was lynching Nightbringer... he was so scummy for a moment I believed him town too! In my eyes your play was perfect, including post #70!! :bow:

Dcmort93, I'm sorry to have you killed so soon but after accidentally killing Chaotix my next target needed to be a really low risk one and there existed the possibility your lack of activity and the lack of a kill from one team were linked!

You're more 'crazy' when you're town, which was one of my more deciding reasons for voting you.

Gaius Scribonius Curio
08-14-2013, 01:04
I can see that I am going to acquire a reputation for well-played games that end with an obvious and catastrophic error...

Thank you for your kind words.

I will put this down to the early morning mangling my grammar. I was also pretty worried about this (bolding added):


Hi The Outsider,

PMs are explicitly forbidden in the rules. As much as I would like to win, I will not break the rules to do so. I have CC'd TheLastDays in so that he is aware.

Anything that you would like to say, please feel free to state it in thread. I will be around until the deadline and will respond to anything that is posted there.

Kind Regards,

Curio

I realised afterwards that I should have said town...

Anyway, it was fun while it lasted, and I look forward to future TLD games.

Riedquat
08-14-2013, 01:13
You're more 'crazy' when you're town, which was one of my more deciding reasons for voting you.

I'm always crazy but as mafia I vent my stress killing! :clown:

That night I should have killed Gaius instead of B-wing and perhaps I could have lived longer but still there were to many townies alive to achieve my victory...

Chaotix
08-14-2013, 01:40
Good game to everyone! And a very interesting setup, TLD.

Gaius had a rough last day, but he was in a bad position and he played quite admirably since my N1 death.

I'm glad we at least managed to outlast the CIA and get the Fox lynched. Congrats to Outsider and CA for figuring it out and not bending to our will like the peasants you are... :evil:

El Barto
08-14-2013, 02:23
Wtf Outsider? You actually read the manual? That just isn't done.