Clash Of Gods! 3

[Myth]

Catholics: 0/300
Muslims: 0/300



CLASH OF GODS! 3

Third time's the charm!

Team Catholics:
Silver Shield leading the Kingdom of France

vs.

Team East:
Nightbringer leading the Turkish Sultanate


Victory conditions:

The first side to accumulate 300 points and has the two special objective cities in its posession and converted to 100% of it sfaith wins! Points are related to the respective side's target cities:

Target cities for the Catholics:

Ankara
Dyabakir
Yerevan
Luxor
Basra
Alamut

Must hold and have at 100% Catholic: Rome and Jerusalem


Target cities for the Muslims:

Toledo
Clermont
Metz
Magdburg
Viena
Plock

Must hold and have at 100% Muslim: Rome and Jerusalem

Points are measured as such:

Capture target city: 10 points.
Hold target city: 5 points every turn.
Convert target city to 50% of your faith: 5 points (only if holding the settlement, awarded once)
Convert target city to 100% of your faith: 15 points (only if holding the settlement, awarded once)

Rome grants the religious conversion bonus only to the Muslim side. Jerusalem grants it only to the Catholic side, only if it had been taken from the Crusader States AI faction by a Muslim facton (player or AI).

Rules

Each player has 48 hours to complete his turn (not counting weekends). After that the Admin may skip his faction or he can be subbed.

Do not bypass or ignore zones of control to lift a siege (or in any other way).

Do not attack ships in ports.

Armies boarding ships in ports can't stay there for more than one turn.

Don't leave blockaded ports without beating the blockading ships first.

Don't stack merchants in armies or forts to get more than one to stand on the same resource (Merchant Fort)

No surrounding armies or agents to destroy them. (Surround&Destroy)

Don't attack units who were left next to a settlement in order to capture it on the same turn in order to cheat the garrison script. In fact don't cheat the garrison script period. (this only applies vs AI factions)

Don't use repeated offers for bribe to increase your faction leader's dread.

Enable "Unlimited men on battlefield" in order to not abuse when leading battles vs the AI (PM me for instructions, though SS has this on by default)

Armies that are defeated in battle by a player that comes after them in the turn list may not move the following turn. This is to make it fair for people who are defeated by players that come before them in the turn list, and thus lose all their movement points

Armies that are defeated in battle may not be attacked on the following turn, as they are banned from moving, either by the game mechanics or by the rule above. They must be allowed to move first, or must be reinforced. If the defeated army retreats to a settlement or fort, this rule does not apply.

Ballistas can't open anything, catapults can open wooden walls, trebuchets or better can open anything.

Assassins are allowed to target agents (not FMs/generals) but the players are limited to one assassination attempt per turn. It must be the first action they do, before they spend money or do anything else. Upon a successful assassination the game admin can load that player's save and attempt the assassination. If the results are different there will be penalties for cheating.

Spies cannot open anything, not vs. the AI and not vs. players.

Crusades and Jihads cannot be called, joined or used/exploited in any way.

ONLY religious buildings can be destroyed upon the conquest of a settlement and ONLY if they are of a religion different than your own.

No trading of provinces to receive free troops. If you trade provinces, make sure they have no garrison prior to the exchange.

No deliberate deals that would put you in debt above -10,000 florins.

How to set up your game:

Stainless Steel 6.4 Late Eara, Gracul AI (10 for aggressiveness), Disable Real Recruitment. DO NOT TICK ANYTHING ELSE EXCEPT RR AND THE CORRECT AI!

When the game starts, we pass down the save to the next player in line via PM and in a message here in this thread. Saves are archived (rar, zip etc.) and uploaded in the .org uploader or another similar file hosting service. The game will be set up at VH/VH, follow AI off, Manage All Settlements on, Long campaign, No advice, and there will be a battle time limit.

Helpful tips for those who are new to Hotseat games can be found here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?138876-The-comprehensive-guide-to-hotseat-play).

[Myth]

Alright boys since this one will be Catholics vs. Muslims only we need to fix the target cities. I have to launch the game to review them but I want to hear your suggestions as well.

[Myth]

LooseCannon1 have you decided if you will be Catholic or Muslim yet?

[LooseCannon1]

LooseCannon1 have you decided if you will be Catholic or Muslim yet? Myth

Actually, I was waiting for you to choose a side. Go ahead and choose.

[Myth]

OK well I'll go Muslim then, for variety's sake. I'll PM Nightbringer with my super in-depth analysis of the situation :laugh4:

[SilverShield]

good thing this is up i do like that

i think as for new target cities it was good if we d go for cities further inland. i see us having more fun fighting our way inland instead of just taking a seaside city in one turn. we could go for

west
toledo
clermont
metz
magdburg
viena
plock

east
ankara
dyabakir
yerevan
luxor
basra
alamut

both must hold
rome, jerusalem

[LooseCannon1]

I like SilverSheild's list of target cities. Coastal cities are too easy. But then add Myth's hold and convert special objective cities.

Are we going with lead battles or just autoresolve? I need to know to make my decision. Of course, knowing Myth's faction choice would help, too:laugh4: The Muslim team will start with 2 of the top 6 factions.

[Myth]

I like leading battles in CoG. Plus i want to to take Silver on in LB :bow:

[Nightbringer]

I'll be basically gone for a couple more days, but will weigh in after that.

[Myth]

Updated the target cities list and tweaked the rules for religion converson bonuses for Rome and Jerusalem. Do you guys like them now?

[SilverShield]

yea think we gonna have a good time playing. also think LC is right about 2 more special cities so yea lets just add arhus and gorgan as 2 more must hold cities at 100 of ur own faith. yea they coastal kinda but they are musts and at 100 percent faith then so i do see some nice back and forth and a lotta fun there .think we gonna make this an epic game.Troy

[Myth]

I think so too. If we get 2 more players at a later stage they could join in as well. I'm waiting for NB to come back so we can discuss the factions, hence why i've not picked yet. I'll work on a title image this weekend.

[SilverShield]

nice. i have a good feeling for this game

[Nightbringer]

Alright, should be back. Lets do this!

[Myth]

OK after some discussion I'll go with Egypt.

[LooseCannon1]

OK after some discussion I'll go with Egypt.

The I'm FORCED to take the HRE:laugh4:

[SilverShield]

france hre v seljuks egypt then. alright nice

[Myth]

I'll post the save today, I was busy these past two days.

[Myth]

Turks up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10472) Nightbringer

CoG3 is now a Go! Good luck to everyone :2thumbsup:

[SilverShield]

nice.gonna enjoy this


lets just add arhus as must have objective at 100 percent muslim faith for team east and gorgan as must have at 100 percent for team west. also WEST ALL D WAY OUOUOUOUUU

[Myth]

It's interesting how bot Muslim factions start their turns before the Catholics. This will be a grand war I think! Go team East!

[SilverShield]

guess im benched for another day then

[Myth]

I'll PM NB to see what's up. I might sub him if he isn't back today.

[Nightbringer]

france up SilverShield!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10473

sorry about the late play, I'm in the middle of applying to grad school right now and my mind has really been elsewhere.

[Myth]

Good luck with that bud.

[SilverShield]

alright its on. and yea i do imagine cog3 being a hecka fun. hre up
http://www.sendspace.com/file/t4gtm9

[LooseCannon1]

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10474 Myth And turn 1 is done!

[Myth]

Turks up! (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10475) Nightbringer

Wow, these Mamluk archers are great. Can't decide if I like them more or the Fari's of the Moors. I think the Mamluks are better.

Anyway, I'm reporting this game's first Heroic Victory! Well at least it should be...

[Nightbringer]

france up!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10476

[Myth]

Guys we are on fire here!

http://www.erh.noaa.gov/okx/pics/firewx1.jpg

[SilverShield]

if those stats aint false i kinda sense the west is underperforming a bit right now.but yea thats okay we gonna rise to fame n glory in this game. its d west baby ouououuu

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ip3tqn

[LooseCannon1]

Well, according to the stats we all went down in overall ranking. :laugh4:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10477Myth

[Myth]

Turks up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10478) Nightbringer

I set the Mongols to human because I had forgotten to do it at game launch.

[Nightbringer]

will be able to play my turn tomorrow afternoon :)

[Nightbringer]

france up SilverShield!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10479

[SilverShield]

im on this guys was outta town and theres a lotta siege battles this round just too busy for more of this today. i got this up tomorrow

[Myth]

How do you guys win siege assaults vs. the AI? Do you basically expect to give some casualties in the form of infantry?

I usually assault with 1 ram and as many ladders/towers as I can, and I keep 1 spare ram in case the first one doesn't make it. Once I knock the gates down I send most of my infantry inside, while 2-3 units of infantry make it up the walls to clear them from spears/crossbows/archers. After the blob at the gate is pushed a little bit back, I charge my general and whatever cav I have and make them go through (or rout) the gate defenders.

Once that happens I can stack the walls with my own ranged units and attempt to mop up. But if there is boiling oil the casualties at the gates can be pretty high. Also, In Stainless Steel you really need at least 2 units of trebucehts to knock down the first gate... and there is a second gate inside tier 3 settlements. Gates and walls are very tough and siege is very inaccurate, so i've had bad luck where I ran out of ammo before I could bring down the second gate. I've had to lure the AI out so I can senak in...

In one game, i can't remember which one, I was assaulting Bari which was held by the ERE. 2 units of ERE Generals camped in the inner courtyard of the citadel. They massacred 1800 italian spear militia (which are superior to regular separ militia). And they didn't charge or anything, they just sat there and wailed away untill all the spearmen died.

For GB units, using jav cav or crossbowmen mounted on the walls is the only cost-effective way to kill them IMO (at least early on). Or your own GB units but yours have to be superior (eastern vs. catholic for example)

[LooseCannon1]

How do you guys win siege assaults vs. the AI? Do you basically expect to give some casualties in the form of infantry?With a bit of difficulty, depending on the garrison. Hopefully, most deaths among the crappier units. I like to start with 3X the number of units-just like real life.


I usually assault with 1 ram and as many ladders/towers as I can, and I keep 1 spare ram in case the first one doesn't make it. Once I knock the gates down I send most of my infantry inside, while 2-3 units of infantry make it up the walls to clear them from spears/crossbows/archers. After the blob at the gate is pushed a little bit back, I charge my general and whatever cav I have and make them go through (or rout) the gate defenders.

Once that happens I can stack the walls with my own ranged units and attempt to mop up. But if there is boiling oil the casualties at the gates can be pretty high. Also, In Stainless Steel you really need at least 2 units of trebucehts to knock down the first gate... and there is a second gate inside tier 3 settlements. Gates and walls are very tough and siege is very inaccurate, so i've had bad luck where I ran out of ammo before I could bring down the second gate. I've had to lure the AI out so I can senak in...My luck with towers is almost as bad a s my luck with spies so I tend to use one ram and a lot of ladders. Rushing the gate is also "troubling". My last test siege battle had 2 GB units, when they finally went thru the gate guess how many died? Only the General of the second unit:laugh4: Except for command starts he was the better general.


In one game, i can't remember which one, I was assaulting Bari which was held by the ERE. 2 units of ERE Generals camped in the inner courtyard of the citadel. They massacred 1800 italian spear militia (which are superior to regular separ militia). And they didn't charge or anything, they just sat there and wailed away untill all the spearmen died.Try a custom battle, one 200 man urban spear against one 33 man ERE GB. You'll lose everyone vs. eight:no: kills. I think the +spear defense bonus is broken in SS.


For GB units, using jav cav or crossbowmen mounted on the walls is the only cost-effective way to kill them IMO (at least early on). Or your own GB units but yours have to be superior (eastern vs. catholic for example)As many archers as possible with cavalry coming around behind. Then hope they rush you down a street and you can trap them with spears and an armour-piercing unit.

[SilverShield]

guess theres something broken or sh u know the game crashed on me the 2nd time with the same battle im just pissed now u know its a huge siege battle and when the victory screen was up it took me straight to the desctopthink i ve wasted more that 1 hour on this already fd really and i got no idea whats wrong there some graphic failure or whatever no clue what d problem is or anything stupid sh .guess all i could do is give this a another try later again today then really aint up for that kinda sh anymore now

[SilverShield]

man finally that was kinda rough. just hate siege battles specially when they crash after victory and u ve already put a lotta time into this battle. glad thisis through now

hre up
http://www.sendspace.com/file/znwwf5


i think as for siege battles most of the time i just let the computer sally and kill it on the field. i guess thats still the best way to clear out any settlement.think it aint that easy anymore tho now that spies are banned from opening gates and its either just rams or siege weaponary but yea thats okay. tho u know when its a fully garrisoned fortress and the garrision is too heavy on cav i just go for an ordinary siege battle then tho u know i rather go for rams and wait another turn coz unless u can sneak in through the second gate its likely that 1 trebucket wont do the thing. also think i ve never really had the computer attacking me as it did last round where it took away my sacking option.kinda strange

[LooseCannon1]

Gracul AI will attack you, either by sallying or just out in the field. And in an SS hotseat you won't be able to fight the battle. That will make the game tougher (and more fun).:2thumbsup:


https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10480Here's a Golden Horde/Fatamids turn for you, Myth

[Myth]

The AI just lifted the siege of Acre vs. my armies. It autocalced for the win, and took out 2 of my generals in the process!! Those CS troops pack a mean punch vs. the lightweight Egyptians...
Nightbringer Turks up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10481)

[Nightbringer]

France up SilverShield!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10482

[SilverShield]

think the west is taking up speed now.good thing. also seeing the possibility of me just having lil to zero access to the web the next two or three days so guess i d be good with a slight extension then already in case my turn was up


http://www.sendspace.com/file/m7jx2j

[LooseCannon1]

The AI army I couldn't find last turn reappeared and seiged a town.:thumbsdown: The only good thing was my last unit took out the AI general. Damn Gracul AI:laugh4:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10483 Myth

[Myth]

I was on 3 business trips, Wednesday to Friday. Today i'm in another town and it's my birthday btw. I'll do this when i get back on Monday.

[Myth]

Turks up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10484) Nightbringer

Sorry for the delay everyone :bow:

[Nightbringer]

France up SilverShield
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10485

[SilverShield]

hre up
http://www.sendspace.com/file/vr0pp0

[LooseCannon1]

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10486 More Golden Horde armies for you to remove, . Myth

[Myth]

I will do this on Sunday.

So how is the game progressing for the rest of you guys? I take it you saw the "Jerusalem Captured" video?

[LooseCannon1]

I will do this on Sunday.

So how is the game progressing for the rest of you guys? I take it you saw the "Jerusalem Captured" video?
No, did you capture Jerusalem? :laugh4: My Antipope is already on his way there to preach to the unwashed. Most start of turn messages do not show up in hotseats. They only appear when you play faction after faction without sending the save to someone else.. Wierd part of the program:shrug:

Except for that disappearing/reappearing AI army my game is progressing nicely :2thumbsup: Only caused a slight hiccup in my plans.

[Nightbringer]

Reasonably well, although hearing about all the ai surprises you guys are getting has maybe made me a little overcautious.

[Myth]

No, did you capture Jerusalem? :laugh4: My Antipope is already on his way there to preach to the unwashed. Most start of turn messages do not show up in hotseats. They only appear when you play faction after faction without sending the save to someone else.. Wierd part of the program:shrug:

Except for that disappearing/reappearing AI army my game is progressing nicely :2thumbsup: Only caused a slight hiccup in my plans.

It's Late Era so the TO might give you some trouble. I think disbanding their re-spawning stacks is fair if we remove the Golden Horde too, so let me know if you've taken all their cities already.

NB: If you see a guy dressed in black and white and with a pointy hat, send a Turkish assassin on him to help him meet his God faster.

[Myth]

Nightbringer Turks up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10487)

[SilverShield]

i believe france its situation is pretty decent. guess i missed out on 1 or 2 cities already coz the computer actually made some smart moves but yea think thats just a another 1 or 2 rounds then to make good for this. think we r on a good way to experience an epic war in this game.gonna do like this for sure

[Nightbringer]

france up! SilverShield

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10488

[Myth]

France started with a lower settlement count than Egypt yet this turn you're 2 settlement above me (or more), so good job on that expansion!

[SilverShield]

u know the biggest problem for me right now is some adequate reinforcement coz those unit pools just recharge that slowly


was outta town guys

her up
http://www.sendspace.com/file/s1zvz1

[Myth]

France is at a disadvantage when it comes to cavalry. You got the quality but the quantity is low and the expenses are absurd. 800 in upkeep for French knights is absurd. Especially since 2 units of desert cav will shred them in the field.

[SilverShield]

yea 800 is just sick. tho the bigger problem for me at this moment is inf. right now theres not even a unit of spear milita to recruit in england and northern spain. think all those siege battles really took a toll on my inf.so yea guess the french blitz is about to slow down now

[LooseCannon1]

I thought I posted this. Sorry for the delay https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10489 you're up Myth

[Myth]

Nightbringer Turks up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10490)

[Nightbringer]

France up! SilverShield
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10491

[SilverShield]

hre up
http://www.sendspace.com/file/677bwo

[LooseCannon1]

Horde/Fatamid time, again. https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10493 Myth

[Myth]

We're making good time with these turns. I'm on this tonight.

Turks up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10495) Nightbringer

[Nightbringer]

SilverShield
france up
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10496

[SilverShield]

man guess we a bit too fast for my schedule these days. think im pretty much through with all the battles but too busy for more of this now. either later today or early tomorrow then guys

[Nightbringer]

np silver :)

I'm guessing things are going to start heating up pretty soon too!

[Myth]

We need more people here to get a new game going. Two games at a slower pace is better than one game at a faster pace IMO :yes:

[SilverShield]

well yea i do guess we gonna have an epic war going in this game here pretty soon. gonna enjoy this for sure

not sure really whether there s enough people around for another game here on the throne room. i do enjoy our game here tho so its okay


okay hre up
http://www.sendspace.com/file/7h1zha

party good tonight guys

[LooseCannon1]

The four people in this game is a higher number than the amount of games (ZERO)at the net right now. Hotseats outside of the Westeros mod seem to have died there.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10498 Myth

[Myth]

The four people in this game is a higher number than the amount of games (ZERO)at the net right now. Hotseats outside of the Westeros mod seem to have died there.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10498 Myth

Weird, they used to have plenty of people.
Vasilefs said he'd wanted to try a game with us. Does the falling of hotseats have to do with the launch of Rome II or with Invicta and Mithridate leaving?

Can you get some of the players you liked and respected to come over and have a game or two with us?

BTW I'm travelling tonight so I won't be able to play until Monday, so I'll PM Nightbringer so he can sub me. There's nothing really crucial coming up plus he's damn good with the Egyptians anyway.

[Nightbringer]

SilverShield
france up!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10499

[SilverShield]

hre up
http://www.sendspace.com/file/2vy1f4

[LooseCannon1]

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10504 Fatamids up!Myth

[Myth]

Turks up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10506) Nightbringer

[Nightbringer]

france up SilverShield
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10508

[SilverShield]

i been outta town guys.im on this asap.do appreciate u being about this. thx guys

[SilverShield]

had some rough days im on this

[SilverShield]

think the save is the last season s one. gonna pm NB about it

[SilverShield]

man i just hate any city in the north this time of the year just cloudy and cold 247 seriously wonder how anyone could survive the entire winter in Illinois anyways HRE up
http://www.sendspace.com/file/h5e6tx
actually the one NB had up was fine it just said 9 so thought it was the wrong one anyways

[LooseCannon1]

Fatamids up. https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10512 Myth

[Myth]

Turks up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10513) Nightbringer

[Nightbringer]

france up! SilverShield
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10516

[SilverShield]

hre up
http://www.sendspace.com/file/dvh30f

[LooseCannon1]

Fatamids up https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10519 Myth

[Nightbringer]

Myth?

[Myth]

Oh sorry, i completely spaced out. I'll do these tomorrow.

[Myth]

Turks (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10520) Nightbringer

[Nightbringer]

france up SilverShield
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10522

[SilverShield]

alright hre up
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ofzcxd

[LooseCannon1]

Sorry, Distant Worlds has me sucked in so bad I forget how time files and I keep forgetting to do this. Anyway, Fatamids/Horde up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10525) Myth

[Myth]

Nightbringer Turks up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10527) I see you guys got Venice along with England/Scotland and Leon Castille.

[Nightbringer]

france up! SilverShield
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10529

[SilverShield]

im on this guys. just a lotta stuff this holiday season. think i ll have this up tomorrow. thank u

[SilverShield]

df is wrong with the forum today got nothing but errors for 20 minutes now man i just hate anything tech and man i just hate those javelins on horse or foot i just really hate any missle weapon. longbow crossbow whatever. thats just no weapon for any man its the soccer of stainless steel really but yea whatever hre up
http://www.sendspace.com/file/0hld8p

[Nightbringer]

not sure whats wrong, i haven't had any errors, although there are reports of some problems with double posts.

Also, I must say I've quite partial to mounted archers myself :)

[Nightbringer]

LooseCannon1 ? :)

[LooseCannon1]

I really have to try and play these as soon as I download or else I lose the time.:laugh4: The slow guy is done with his turn:creep: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10532 It's yours, Myth

[SilverShield]

yea thats a problem. turks are doing pretty well btw. its good owl alma momma West Point that school u are in now



n


Also, I must say I've quite partial to mounted archers myself :)

[Myth]

Turks up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10534) Nightbringer

[Nightbringer]

france up SilverShield
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10536


yea thats a problem. turks are doing pretty well btw. its good owl alma momma West Point that school u are in now

You went to west point?

[SilverShield]

btw what kinda grad school u actually in now? still have a high respect for any physician out there although for them today it is just all about the money also but still


naw me myself i was the other branch. my father tho went there. he always spoke of the alma momma- of his alma momma West Point in such depth n detail i myself do feel as if i went to West Point. but there always is a kinda dark aspect to that as u sense that when people talk about certain aspects of their past so vividly and in such detail that they kinda lost something in those days in one way or another which they could never recover. all thats left is to reminisce over the past. but sad truth is anything good thats over is over for good and u realize that all that really sticks is pain and the halo of the good thats lost which is just pain also. so aint really any good to think about the past. tho yea theres those days where u just sit back and think like df where u been df what u done and what df ur doing now feeling like df man life is just a pain. but yea thats exactly what it is huh. anyways nough of that kinda s. i just hate the holiday season. hre up
http://www.sendspace.com/file/1rq5j7

[Nightbringer]

I'm in grad school at a masters in teaching program right now. But yes, lets get back to breaking some skulls in a nice old fashioned fake religious war.

[LooseCannon1]

One more turn for the Horde, Myth? https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10538

[Myth]

Merry Christmas brothers in arms! I'll do this tonight. And yes - fake religious war is the best kind of religious war!

[Nightbringer]

Myth?

[Myth]

Sorry guys, I got sick. I didn't even go anywhere on New Yeas eve. I'll do my turns asap.

[Myth]

Turks up! (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10540) Nightbringer

I defeated a small (2 ships IIRC) navy of the HRE in the Adriatic.

[Nightbringer]

france up! SilverShield
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10541

[SilverShield]

and happy new year guys hope u ll have a good one



im outta town guys. think i ll be back on monday

[SilverShield]

guys im still stuck in the north. just crazy here guess i ll finally be back tomorrow then. do appreciate ur patience on this

[SilverShield]

k made it outta this hell of snow. hre up

http://www.sendspace.com/file/px5mex

Glad to hear you made it out okay silver. Now I can just hope you get caught in the snow in game :)

[Nightbringer]

glad to hear you made it out silver!

[Myth]

Dude, I'm glad you're OK. I saw some pictures today, like a whole bay frozen over and stuff. How bad is it up where you live? Over here in Bulgaria my dad told me it's been 12 degrees in the evening in my home town, like it's a night in April.

[LooseCannon1]

Forgot to post this. https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10546 Myth, you're up

[SilverShield]

guess LC has been kickin it at some nice 80 degrees the whole time



polar vortex and all that. man the x on the news was as bad as the conditions itself. u know i ve never really been into snow and i ve always been hating anything below 70 degrees so u know i rather stay down south and its just some special circumstances for really that i went north for so yea thats exactly the moment when the weather just got crazy. man seriously do guess anyone is just glad the Packers didnt get that wild card. and i do think i gotta make sure thats been the last trip up north in winter for me ever just glad im down south again. anyways guess things are heating up in cog3 now so just enough of anything cold now

[Myth]

Sorry guys, didn't see the link LC posted since I wasn't tagged. I'm going to Serbia for the weekend, I'll do this on Sunday.

[Myth]

Turks up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10548) Nightbringer.

Looking at the faction rankings, it seems each team has boomer factions and assault factions. France and the Turks are boomers due to the availability of fresh territory to grab, while Egypt and the HRE start with enough production potential to reach their peak earlier and concentrate on fighting the enemy.

[Nightbringer]

france up! SilverShield

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10549

[SilverShield]

think i ll get to this later today. just a lotta stuff these days. i just dont know why its always those first days of the year where life s really getting to u

[SilverShield]

man i see this campaign in spain as by far the hardest one against the computer i ve ever fought. think the moors and portugal really have been fielding some sick armies. but i believe cog3 is about get even bigger now and im getting excited about clashing in this game

hre up
http://www.sendspace.com/file/qawms9

[SilverShield]

i think whats good for u guys about egypt not expanding into any direction is that u can concentrate ur forces way harder



Turks up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10548) Nightbringer.

Looking at the faction rankings, it seems each team has boomer factions and assault factions. France and the Turks are boomers due to the availability of fresh territory to grab, while Egypt and the HRE start with enough production potential to reach their peak earlier and concentrate on fighting the enemy.

[Myth]

To be completely honest Nightbringer did such a good job expanding efficiently that I simply concentrated on the human enemy.

[LooseCannon1]

I think it's more the player than the faction. Silver expanded way faster in CoG2 than I have here. And helping freakkreik then caused me to go slower than normal with the Turks-but still wouldn't have been as fast as NB in this game.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10551 Myth, you're up.

[Myth]

Turks up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10552) Nightbringer

[Nightbringer]

france up SilverShield

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10553

also, I would like to announce that a full army of german scum have been killed to the man by the Sultan's forces.

[Myth]

First blood! :2thumbsup:

[SilverShield]

think i ll get to this later today. seriously i dont really like that im constantly late on my turns these days but u know its just a lotta stuff for me right now. as always i do appreciate ur patience guys

[SilverShield]

man thats bad news



f
also, I would like to announce that a full army of german scum have been killed to the man by the Sultan's forces.

[Myth]

think i ll get to this later today. seriously i dont really like that im constantly late on my turns these days but u know its just a lotta stuff for me right now. as always i do appreciate ur patience guys

It's OK, I haven't exactly been The Flash as well.

[Nightbringer]

ya, I think all of us have been pretty busy with life lately. don't worry about it too much silver. :)

[SilverShield]

man think that battle for cordoba took me more than 30min but i think the moors are broken now. i guess that battle for europe is about to beginn huh lets do this all or nothing

http://www.sendspace.com/file/9o2pf1


and thx guys. whats it with those first weeks of the year tho. tho u know i gotta admit the Broncos lost on sunday really took me hard. somewhat financially but also morally. really having a hard time getting over PM going down like this. u know there u saw one of the last great generals going down like nothing. what a cruel nightmare. but yea anyways lets revieve some greatness in command here then

[Myth]

LooseCannon1 bump. I'm away until Thursday guys, going on a business trip.

[LooseCannon1]

Finally. Every time I tried to play something came up. These turns are going to be intense from now on. ~:) Fatamids up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10555) Myth

[Myth]

Turks up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10556) Nightbringer

[Nightbringer]

France up SilverShield
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10557

[SilverShield]

almost done think its just 2 more battles for me and im through this turn.whats bad tho is that i think the game chrashed on one siege battle twice yet already at the end of the battle when the screen showing the battle results pops up. just hope this was only due to too many battles one after another so the whole thing just went down

[SilverShield]

another day same issue. u know when i click to end the battle to get back to the strategy map it crashes. whats the problem there and how to solve itany ideas? this is about granada so u know i d rather take this city

[LooseCannon1]

another day same issue. u know when i click to end the battle to get back to the strategy map it crashes. whats the problem there and how to solve itany ideas? this is about granada so u know i d rather take this city
Sometimes after big battles this will happen unless you give the game some time. I mean you have to sit there and wait a few minutes before clicking each button to get back to campaign map. It's been believed to be a memory problem but it's hard to diagnose as it won't occur on different machines. If you're fighting the battle as one of the last things you do in the turn, create a save before fighting it. Sometimes you have to quit the game, wait, and then restart the game. Sometimes reducing your video settings will help.

If nothing seems to work, you could send me the save (and your pass in a PM) and I'll try to complete it.

[SilverShield]

thanks for your help. i think loading a save from earlier within the turn did it. i guess the save file itself was somewhat broken or something. anyways took granada and i believe the eastern onslought had been stopped or at least slowed down. some french italian hoes french italian wine and french italian money made them eastern trebucketers feel like x the sultan imma get me some french italian kitten. miaauu

hre up
http://www.sendspace.com/file/e698w9

[Nightbringer]

silver, I'm not sure I really even understood that last part, but it was pretty darn entertaining to read. :)

[LooseCannon1]

silver, I'm not sure I really even understood that last part, but it was pretty darn entertaining to read. :)
I think that "x" in the phrase "x the sultan" meant something not quite dignified.:laugh2: But maybe next time the NEW Fatamid sultan will treat his men better and not take them to lands where they get :on_bash::hanged: And after the "Brothers Grimm" and the merchants of Milan got done with the Sultan, the third Fatamid general

:eeeek: ran like chicken. Many of the Kaiser's enemies drew their last breath today.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10560 Myth

edit: And that general's frozen in Bari, Myth.

[Myth]

So did someone actually kill an army or not? :laugh4:

[LooseCannon1]

So did someone actually kill an army or not? :laugh4:

Can't figure out my roleplaying:laugh4:? Harun al-Sa'igh and all his men DEAD. Caliph Al-Musrta'li DEAD. And Khayr al-Taflisi frozen by rule in Bari.

[Myth]

LooseCannon1 that's your save buddy :laugh4: So where was your stack stationed? Do the north in that castle below Venice?

[LooseCannon1]

Try this one instead https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10561 That's what exhaustion does to you. With all the battles that turn took close to 5 hours over 2 days. Myth I brought units from all over the place for those 3 battles. Didn't have enough movement for a 4th one in Italy. Also damaged your ship that was near Venice.

[SilverShield]

i like to think the eastern onslaught on italy is off then. i guess three egyptian armies east to the mountains to napoli are down. thats big. man u know and i thought bribing some trebucketers was big

[SilverShield]

yea absolutely. i think those turns in cog3 are really epic already. yea gotta have some time to play those turn but still i enjoy that


Trhat's what exhaustion does to you. With all the battles that turn took close to 5 hours over 2 days.

[SilverShield]

made me laugh


So did someone actually kill an army or not? :laugh4:



in hindsight tho u know i did have that uneasy feeling those armies werent save. tho u know i didnt expect LC pounding the whole valley. a big nasty sweep. so u even see me baffled over that carnage. he really went down rough n dirty. Patton style

[SilverShield]

love that one. makes me laugh


:on_bash:

[SilverShield]

i think if i make a queef of that miau we are on to something. hush hush


silver, I'm not sure I really even understood that last part, but it was pretty darn entertaining to read. :)


actually i think i could have saved all that money. i guess those trebuckets would be gone by now anyhow but yea whatever gotta take your chances

[Myth]

I'll handle my turns tonight guys. Let's see what I have to work with.

You'd think I'd have learned my lesson after I couldn't sneak armies past LC in the other game when he was subbing Egypt. I know that the best way is to slow and methodically approach but I like to take chances. My victories in the TR always came from calculated and methodical pushes and checkmating enemy stacks, but something here lures me to making gambles. Perhaps because the field of battle is too far away from my home turf.

[Nightbringer]

Myth?

[Myth]

Turks up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10562) Nightbringer

[Nightbringer]

The imperial fleet of the Adriatic has been utterly wiped out in a great naval battle. :)

france up! SilverShield
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10563

[SilverShield]

was outta town guys im on this now think im just gonna hit the waffle house real quick

[SilverShield]

hre
http://www.sendspace.com/file/gb1ydb

[LooseCannon1]

A nice quiet, peaceful turn.:laugh4:


Fatamids up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10566) Myth

[Myth]

Likewise uneventful for the Fatamids. Turks up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10567) Nightbringer

[Nightbringer]

uneventful for me as well.

France up! SilverShield
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10568

[SilverShield]

i feel like this season has been the equivalent to an eye of a hurricane, class 2 probablly. feel like theres plenty of hurricanes ahead still in this game. im pretty sure we gonna have a class 4 soon enough. gonna feel the rush

hre up
http://www.sendspace.com/file/c9pr9p

[LooseCannon1]

Fatamids up, missing a bit of their navy.:yes:https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10571

[Myth]

Turks up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10572) Nightbringer

I would inform the Kaiser that my navy seems fine, and more ships are coming from the Holy Lands. I am, however, disenchanted with European shipbuilding skill. The rickety barges I see docked in your ports are of poor stock and inferior numbers.

[Nightbringer]

France up! SilverShield
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10574

[SilverShield]

i feel like this turn has been crucial for the west and will probably be remembered as one of the TDs to the championship if the west was to win it. crusader forces took the eternal city of ROme the islamic expeditionary corps had been annihilated in a sea battle of epic dimension. i feel like team west is headed in the right direction and cog3 is of epic proportion. im having a good time playing this

hre up
http://www.sendspace.com/file/a4jyjt

[LooseCannon1]

Fatamids up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10576) Myth

[Myth]

Will do my turns tonight guys, sorry for the delay. I had a huge workload the pst 4 days and I was away for the weekend.

[Myth]

Took out Ragusa and her costly garrison with a stack of tier 1 troops. Long, drawn out battle. Got a CTD at the end. Will replay tomorrow...

[Myth]

The entire HRE army inside the castle is dead. First city for team East!

Turks up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10580) Nightbringer

I'm a bit worried that team West has about 100 settlements to their name. This will be a long game indeed. But lead battles somewhat evens it out. Being able to kill imperial foot knights and zweihander with levy archers and arab spears is very cost efficient.

[Nightbringer]

All quiet on the western front.
and its more like 75 that they have, although that is pretty intimidating.

france up! SilverShield

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10581

[SilverShield]

i feel like it s a tit for tat situation right now in cog. guess team west lost some ground to the east this turn but thats okay still feel like we headed in the right in this game.gonna enjoy the long road to the end of cog3

hre up
http://www.sendspace.com/file/6otslr

[LooseCannon1]

The Imperial banner flies again over Ragusa. We expect to lose more men to the plague in the city than we lost to the rabble holding it. The murder of the sick and defenseless has been avenged. https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10583 Myth

[Myth]

Turks up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10584) Nightbringer

Sorry for the delay guys, the turn wasn't that hard to do but I had 0 free time with work and my girl popping over for 4 days. It's getting interesting around Rome now...

[Nightbringer]

france up SilverShield
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10585

[SilverShield]

busy week think i ll get to this later today or early tomorrow. feel like this turn in cog is gonna be big .do enjoy those big ones

[Nightbringer]

no problem, although i must say I am sorta hoping it isn't too big (as that would indicate lots of dead on our side)

[SilverShield]

man really that was a big one. took me more than 2 consecutive hours. was fun tho. i really do like those epic turns in cog. feel like there still is a lotta fun ahead for us in this game

hre up
http://www.sendspace.com/file/oib8nk

[LooseCannon1]

Fatimids up! (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10587) Myth

[Myth]

German advance force defeated, though I suspect LC is hiding a catapult in that fort east of Rome. Man, that many territories really add up as a huge advantage. Silver took out NBs and my initial fleet as well (which was a fullstack).

Turks up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10588) Nightbringer

Silver, I see you using a lot of ballista units in your games. What do you like about them?

[Nightbringer]

france up SilverShield
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10589

[SilverShield]

man i love cog 3. love how we battle for italy and the adriatic. do feel like there still i a lotta fun ahead for d all of us in this game

hre up
http://www.sendspace.com/file/tuidn7

[SilverShield]

those ballistas u know i just like to nail it hard. 16inches. one hit with a hammer staples bum like paper .gotta like that


well you know those victories at sea came at a price for me too but yea u know when cog is over you ll see what i d been actually fielding or watering. tho this turn its on LC to deal the final blow as this fleet retreated into the adriatic and not around sicily this time



German advance force defeated, though I suspect LC is hiding a catapult in that fort east of Rome. Man, that many territories really add up as a huge advantage. Silver took out NBs and my initial fleet as well (which was a fullstack).

Turks up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10588) Nightbringer

Silver, I see you using a lot of ballista units in your games. What do you like about them?

[LooseCannon1]

German advance force defeated, though I suspect LC is hiding a catapult in that fort east of Rome. It was one of many around there. But it's in a different fort this turn:on_woo: You have to guess which one before you play. Hint: that fort had someone else's stack in it at my turn start.:on_hi:
Man, that many territories really add up as a huge advantage. Silver took out NBs and my initial fleet as well (which was a fullstack).And that silly fleet got all the way to Venice so now we have to clean up the harbor. :titanic: NEW FACTION LEADER UP (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10590) Myth

[Myth]

Turks up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10592) Nightbringer

[Nightbringer]

sorry about the delay, I'm working on te turn but there are several battles and life is pretty busy. Should be all done on Saturday at the latest.

[Nightbringer]

That was a nice little turn. One HRE fortress captured, and one fleet beaten back.
france up! SilverShield
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10593

[SilverShield]

smooth

hre
http://www.sendspace.com/file/50djxc

[LooseCannon1]

I bet you all thought I died.:laugh4: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10596

Love how Fatimid fleets when defeated in battle happen to sail north.

[Myth]

Turks up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10598) Nightbringer

Did you guys see the thread about the new modding options for M2TW and RTW? There is now a way to break the hardcoded faction limit and unit limits in the games. This means a SIGNIFICANT increase in historical accuracy. Imagine stainless steel with 600 settlements and 50 factions! Imagine the COG games we could have on that beast!

[Nightbringer]

wow seriously, that is pretty big news. Hopefully it will open up a lot of new modding opportunities.

[Nightbringer]

SilverShield up!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10599

[Nightbringer]

SilverShield up!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10599

[LooseCannon1]

Turks up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10598) Nightbringer

Did you guys see the thread about the new modding options for M2TW and RTW? There is now a way to break the hardcoded faction limit and unit limits in the games. This means a SIGNIFICANT increase in historical accuracy. Imagine stainless steel with 600 settlements and 50 factions! Imagine the COG games we could have on that beast!
In this another of your April Fools day jokes like Medival 3 was?:laugh4: Where's the link??:yes: Don't tease us.

And quit playing so damn fast!

edit2: As you can see by the new sig, I found it. Hidden in the general discussion area of twc.:campfire:

[SilverShield]

im on this guys was a rough week

[SilverShield]

man that sounds promising



Turks up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10598) Nightbringer

Did you guys see the thread about the new modding options for M2TW and RTW? There is now a way to break the hardcoded faction limit and unit limits in the games. This means a SIGNIFICANT increase in historical accuracy. Imagine stainless steel with 600 settlements and 50 factions! Imagine the COG games we could have on that beast!

[SilverShield]

alright hre up
http://www.sendspace.com/file/84rdrh

[Myth]

LooseCannon1 pinging for knowledge.

[LooseCannon1]

LooseCannon1 pinging for knowledge.:laugh4:Damn, that wasn't even 12 hours.

The news from the Adriatic sea is bad, just bad. Oh wait, it was not mine ships that were sunk but some other peoples:titanic: Myth You're up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10600)

[Myth]

But I didn't have that many boats there did I? I think it was just the ones with the trebs, and you could not have attacked them this turn (following turn rule). Right? LooseCannon1

Also, it seems we will be getting a huge influx of TWC hotseat veterans over here. How likely do you think a friendly, wecloming free for all SS game will be? Or maybe a .ORG vs a TWC game? Though I might need you and Silver to be on our side just for the sake of numbers (but also skill as you are kicking butts in this CoG)

[LooseCannon1]

But I didn't have that many boats there did I? I think it was just the ones with the trebs, and you could not have attacked them this turn (following turn rule). Right? I left that fleet alone. Most of the ships sunk were GREEN and actually SilverShield did the heavy lifting part. I just went and finished off the survivors including one lone Fatimid ship that was almost in Venice's harbor.


Also, it seems we will be getting a huge influx of TWC hotseat veterans over here. How likely do you think a friendly, wecloming free for all SS game will be? Or maybe a .ORG vs a TWC game? Though I might need you and Silver to be on our side just for the sake of numbers (but also skill as you are kicking butts in this CoG)Interesting. it seems that GrnEyedDvl (twc's owner) has received a Ceist & Desist order letter from George RR Martin's lawyers demanding Westeros;Total war be removed from the forum or face legal action. Everyone's trying to come up with places to hold the mod. More hotseats are played in W:TW then all other mods combined (27 games posted a save in the last 24 hours). And another dozen with a turn waiting to be played!

[Mithridate]

And thus, my oath to bring more people to .org has been fulfilled.

[Myth]

Things are getting interesting for sure. Good job to Nightbringer for regaining ground on the dalmatian coast. I've finally gotten to my good units, the Eggies have some early unit problems. But I just smashed a Crusading Hungarian stack in AR with pretty low losses. Nice, not that AR matters in a CoG game. Turks up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10601)

[Nightbringer]

sorry, I've been in the last week of the quarter panic and forgot about this completely. Playing now.

edit: or not,t he file seems to have died. Myth can you reupload it please?

[Myth]

The .org uploader doesn't seem to work therother , just an FYI.

Will upload the save off-site tonight.

[therother]

The .org uploader doesn't seem to work @therother (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=1535) , just an FYI.Hmm, seems to be a database issue. I've contacted our hosts: hopefully they'll be able to restore it from their backup. In the meantime, I've attached the save to this post.

13093

Edit: uploader is back online.

[Myth]

Nightbringer is it ok now?

[Nightbringer]

working, playing now!

[Nightbringer]

france up SilverShield

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10603

[SilverShield]

woo feel like this rounds break had been pretty long.think i ll get to this later today

[SilverShield]

alright hre up
http://www.sendspace.com/file/e5n8fe

[LooseCannon1]

Myth
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10606
Edit: need to post correct save.

Edit2 : right save up now

[Myth]

Turks up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10607) Nightbringer

[Nightbringer]

wrong turn Myth :) its still on egypt

[Myth]

Nightbringer try this one. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10609)

[Nightbringer]

french up SilverShield
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10611

[SilverShield]

yaawn i believe i had been up that early on a sat morning 2 years ago.anyways think i ll get to this later today .i have this feeling this turns gonna be big and will excite me

[Myth]

Ah, well since I've adopted the art of running away, it probably won't be that much. You guys will overrun Bari regardless.

[SilverShield]

busy sunday and busy season in cog. good one tho. i feel like the eastern onslaught on italy has been halted for good now and the eastern posessions on the west coast are under pressure respectively. i think it s a dire situation there for the turkish expeditionary force around ragusa esp. tho i gotta admit it s a miracle almost bari still is under eastern control. yet tho. but yea i do feel like we all still up for a lotta fun here in cog

hre
https://www.sendspace.com/file/h2lgaw

[LooseCannon1]

Fatimids up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10613) Myth

[Myth]

Turks up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=205&id=10618) Nightbringer

[Nightbringer]

france up SilverShield
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[SilverShield]

hre up
https://www.sendspace.com/file/uxyzg7

[LooseCannon1]

Ah, well since I've adopted the art of running away, it probably won't be that much. You guys will overrun Bari regardless.

Bari was filled with plague. Now I've got 3 sick generals.~:mecry: But I also picked up 5 free forts:sneaky: and Ragusa. Go ahead, NB, take Belgrade. You won't hold it long.



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[Nightbringer]

yaya, very threatening :)

and don't forget Myth

[Myth]

Turks up. (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10625) Nightbringer


Another fullstack of Hungarian crusaders made it through to my lands. How does this even happen :no:

[LooseCannon1]

yaya, very threatening :)

If you've looked at the save you'll see it's a promise, not a threat.





Another fullstack of Hungarian crusaders made it through to my lands. How does this even happen :no:Hey, at least I'm taking care of the Norwegians for you:laugh4:

[Nightbringer]

sorry, ill try to get to it tomorrow!

[Nightbringer]

SilverShield / france up

also, ouch... I thought I had some mroe time before the Dalmatian coast got hit.

As to those hungarian stacks. I'm utterly confused about them. I'm pretty sure they aren't actually moving through my lands, I certainly haven't seen any. As far as I can see they are just sitting there with full stacks in their remaining cities.

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[SilverShield]

just had to learn that something killed a general of mine. guess that was the computer then as we only kill agents. but anyways feel like this battle for the balcans and greece is gonna be even more hot and daring than the battle for italy and im gonna enjoy that for sure

hre
https://www.sendspace.com/file/baezys

[Myth]

SilverShield my bad I killed your general. I forgot that in this version of the rules we only use them versus agents. It was still the first thing I did on my turn. We can reload your turn or I can create a new guy for you with identical traits. What would you prefer?

Sorry about this guys.

[LooseCannon1]

Fatimids up. save here

[SilverShield]

lets just move on. i think this general was a disloyal x anyway. you know if i could i myself would arrange for a clean out of my staff of generals. whats worse than a disloyal general.straight to the neck



SilverShield my bad I killed your general. I forgot that in this version of the rules we only use them versus agents. It was still the first thing I did on my turn. We can reload your turn or I can create a new guy for you with identical traits. What would you prefer?

Sorry about this guys.

[Myth]

OK, but if you change your mind let me know and I'll add a guy for you via console. Or rather, i'll get a trusted party to add it for you since I'd have to look at your faction otherwise.

[Myth]

Turks up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10627) Nightbringer

Killed that AI crusader stack at the cost of 300 casualties. They had every Turkopole merc in existence. But seeing as how you guys sank several of my armies, this is a small price to pay :D

[Nightbringer]

france up SilverShield
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[Beskar]

OK, but if you change your mind let me know and I'll add a guy for you via console. Or rather, i'll get a trusted party to add it for you since I'd have to look at your faction otherwise.

If something like this becomes an issue, feel free to give me a poke and I will see about doing it if there is no one better. (I kind of have to re-install the game/get mod to do it)

[SilverShield]

edit

u know i had this bumper sticker -im ready for hillary 2016- on car in front of me today.that was just wow cmon dx?? really?



thats how you send troops to Benghazi.take a lesson hillary ustupid x

hre up
https://www.sendspace.com/file/u13lye

[Nightbringer]

political discussion is for the backroom (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?19-Backroom). Don't want that fireball going off in here. :)

also, any warnings of things for me to be horrified about when my turn starts?

[Myth]

Man how does Silver keep wiping out stacks with just infantry and ballistae :dizzy2: At least LC's stacks are varied.

[LooseCannon1]

Man how does Silver keep wiping out stacks with just infantry and ballistae :dizzy2: At least LC's stacks are varied.
Late in the summer of 1250, the Turkish garrison abandoned the city of Belgrade in the face of the might of the Empire. Their exact whereabouts unknown our forces entered to city. But there would be no rest as the plaque had already beaten them into it. Our agents found an army in a fort outside Scopia and another inside the castle. Maybe some of those were the missing men?

Believing the road to Belgrade was clear, Captain Erasmus and the 45th Transport Battalion began moving their catapults westerly. As night fell they found the missing Turk army. Outnumbered 4 to 1, with no path of avoiding battle, he did what is expected of every German soldier. He ordered his men into position and waited for the onslaught to begin. Positioning his spearmen and heavy infantry on the far flanks, One archer, one crossbows and the catapult would use their superior range to rain death down on the center of the enemy line. The one spearmen caught the enemy horse archers trying to approach thru the woods and enemy javalinmen were surprised by our lt.men at arms. Enemy unit after enemy unit broke and ran for their lives. Our archers ran out of arrows but drew their swords and attacked the Saracens as they approached. The crossbows held their ground until down to only 20 men were left. Enemy fire arrows lit up the catapults and Captain Erasmus was forced to order his men to make an orderly retreat. Forced to leave 300 captives behind they escaped, knowing their efforts reduced the enemy by over a thousand men, they withdrew.


One hell of a battle deserves a write-up.:laugh4: One unit of cavalry would have won it for me. I've gone back and tried it with autoresolve. Odds were 1:2 The results were way different, with NB losing only 200 men. Of course, that retreat brought my men almost to Belgrade (and possibly safe) while after the fought battle they barely moved away. (Maybe, Nightbringer will honor their gallantry and not attack them this turn??) That's the difference between fought and A/R. We can control a battle better than the AI can. Open field or inside a city, we think, adjust, and adapt as needed. The AI just crunches numbers.


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[Myth]

Turks up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10632) Nightbringer

We need some serious victories and to regain some ground if we are to have a chance. IMO Silver has snowballed too hard - there's far too much land to be eaten in that part of the world. Now his production, especially ship building, is off the charts. And tat happened so fast - I rushed up to Italy ASAP after consolidating my starting position yet you guys already had enough ships to sink my navies with the stacks inside. 2 vital stacks for the early war to push for Rome went down, and I haven't been able to recover ground since.

Now silver is eating Africa which means more ports and more gold and more troops. Either we win some battles soon or it's all she wrote IMO.

[SilverShield]

all good aint up for no discussion. for me this aint about dems vs gop anyway. u know i d just been as stunned if i d seen an -im ready for Jeb- or ready for Bobby sticker in summer 2014. not that strong up about it as for the hillary one probably but whatever. tho im sure neither you nor LC nor Myth dont have a bad feeling when it comes to how brave men went down in the city of bengahzi so thats a non discussion issue really. but yea then again u see how good people are dying in syria, eastern ukraine, western africa and u ll find suffering all around the globe. so yea lets just leave it like that. it is what it is anyway




political discussion is for the backroom (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?19-Backroom). Don't want that fireball going off in here. :)

also, any warnings of things for me to be horrified about when my turn starts?

[SilverShield]

i do think my armies are pretty much strong on cav also and honestly i think so far LC really did all the heavy lifting as for ground operations and wiping out enemy armies for team west while i was all about the water pretty much for now. i have this feeling tho that the battle for greece will see much greater involvement of d all of us on the ground and im looking forward to this



Man how does Silver keep wiping out stacks with just infantry and ballistae :dizzy2: At least LC's stacks are varied.

[SilverShield]

well i guess heres prove that LC has been the slaughtering machine in cog3 so far. mow mow



knowing their efforts reduced the enemy by over a thousand men, they withdrew.

[SilverShield]

well i think with fought battles there always is a chance to gain back some serious ground. im more than sure that in cog3 we once again will see that with fought battles one lil mistake means that an entire army could be gone and things could change dramatically. u know we just have to get the distance wrong and suddenly you will find a fort within range of ur siege weapons and that army is dunzo. so well yea i do feel like team east took some hits but u still got a shot to turn the table especially as u now did finally give up on the sea route to italy. honestly i think the only yet biggest mistake was to still opt for the sea route to rome after the first fleet was sunk. i think there was 3 or 4 armies lost one after another on the sea in this game and i guess u had been better of if u d unloaded those armies in thessalia and moved them via land route through greece across the mountains up to the strait between southern italy and northern greece when it was still eastern held and had it ferried across that strait in one turn as i think we ruled the water pretty soon. u know i started producing ships right when i launched the invasion of england so actually i did find d first two fleets of mine to arrive in the med sea entirely built in the british isles and northern france already. tho yea i think it still is a long road to baghdad in this game here and one mistake on our side and a bold move on urs and we are pretty much even again all in a sudden and i think the chance for those sudden turns of tables is what makes fought battle games especially when played with u guys grand. so yea im looking forward with a big smile to even more action in cog3




Turks up (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=279&id=10632) Nightbringer

We need some serious victories and to regain some ground if we are to have a chance. IMO Silver has snowballed too hard - there's far too much land to be eaten in that part of the world. Now his production, especially ship building, is off the charts. And tat happened so fast - I rushed up to Italy ASAP after consolidating my starting position yet you guys already had enough ships to sink my navies with the stacks inside. 2 vital stacks for the early war to push for Rome went down, and I haven't been able to recover ground since.

Now silver is eating Africa which means more ports and more gold and more troops. Either we win some battles soon or it's all she wrote IMO.

[Nightbringer]

the survivors were not spared. (my impression is that is fair since you can't move after attacking no mater which player you are) aside from that, it likes like siege lines are starting to be established.
SilverShield up
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[SilverShield]

u guys packing some major heat there around athens

hre
https://www.sendspace.com/file/me57td