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Pratia II
In 2032 the second Great Depression hit the world's economy. It first affected the greater powers of the world but soon spread to even the most remote of places. Governments fought amongst themselves and each other, until finally complete anarchy had consumed the known world.
Groups of independents gathered together and formed their own "governments" in which most declared war on the world and everyone in it. One of these radicals were the Praters.
The first story took place with a group of highly trained mercenaries, hired to travel to the Mobilians capital city and rescue them from the Praters.
A double agent resided among them... Areos Anduin was aware of it, and had ordered his soldiers to find out who it was.
The tragedy of that story can be told here, at the Pratia - Information Summary (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?93846-Pratia-Information-Summary&highlight=) where until the very end the superbly cunning manipulations of Hayden Matthews prevailed, and Areos Anduin and his men were systematically picked off.
This story takes place 6 years and one day later. (literally, interesting coincidence in the starting dates...)
Johan Battle, highest ranking officer remaining at the Northern Mobilian outpost after the last brutal attack by the Praters, has issued a full lock-down of the facility. None may enter, and certainly none may leave. He has issued out orders to ration supplies and record a census of all soldiers and civilians under his care.
There is talk of a traitor in your midst, is it true? Or are people just scared and trying to find someone to blame?
Rules
Typical mafia rules stand, do not ruin the game by exposing your own role through screenshots or quoting of PM's.
Also WoG's will take place after any particular player remains inactive for more than 3 days in real time.
Roles
Roles will remain a mystery, hints will come in regards to what/who is out there through the end-turn write-ups.
Explanation
The nature of the game and the mechanics are in typical mafia style, however there is no conclusive evidence towards the existence of mafia at all. Confused? Sign-up and all of your questions will be answered in time.
Currently on Day Phase 6 and will end Wednesday, November 6th at ~9:00PM (GMT -6)
Time Remaining:
Living Players (4/9)
Ishmael
edse
autolycus
Ferret
Dead Players (5/9)
Ibn-Khaldun - D2
Askthepizzaguy - N2
Double A - D3
Riedquat - D5
Darth Feather - N5
Full Synopsis (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?93846-Pratia-Information-Summary)
Darth Feather
10-16-2013, 22:11
Totally In :2thumbsup:
Riedquat
10-17-2013, 04:09
In please!
Ibn-Khaldun
10-18-2013, 23:08
In.
autolycus
10-20-2013, 00:40
in.
Ibn-Khaldun
10-20-2013, 20:16
Just 2 more!
Double A
10-20-2013, 20:48
In?
Greetings my fellow mafia players, it appears we have reached our cherished 8 players. According to Org law we may have up to 17 participants, so I see no reason in limiting ourselves. Sign-ups are still open and will be closing early this week. You all will be hearing back from me soon. :bow:
Askthepizzaguy
10-22-2013, 13:22
I am going to continue to be quite distracted, but I will offer my body as a meat shield.
Sign-ups will be closing in ~12 hours, around 9:00PM (GMT -5) for those of you who are holding out, now's the time to crack!
Further, Role PM's will be sent and Day Phase started within a few hours of the end of sign-ups.
Don't get left out!!
Sign-ups are now Closed
Role PM's are being sent out, Day Phase 1 will begin on my mark.
Role PM's have been sent!!!!
Let Day Phase 1 begin!!! We will tally up the votes in roughly 48 hours, Thursday, October 24th at 9:00PM (GMT -5).
Vote:Abstain is a valid vote.
:bow:
Vote:Abstain is a valid vote.
We can vote for him even though he isn't in the game? Very suspicious.
Vote: Trug aka Visorslash aka Abstain.
vote: edse, for having a sense of humour.
autolycus
10-23-2013, 12:35
Vote:Ferret
autolycus
10-23-2013, 12:36
Sorry, I meant vote:ferret
Darth Feather
10-23-2013, 13:15
RandomVote: DoubleA
Random.org seems to think you are scum.
Ibn-Khaldun
10-23-2013, 13:41
vote: edse, for having a sense of humour.
Vote: Ishmael for not having a sense of humour.
Riedquat
10-23-2013, 15:10
Vote: Ibn-khaldun for voting above me, and more important... for voting before me!
Ibn-Khaldun
10-23-2013, 17:15
FoS: Riedquat :stare:
Vote: autolycus
For not capitalising the F.
Riedquat
10-23-2013, 18:30
FoS: Riedquat :stare:
Why? You are a good candidate as everybody else.
Askthepizzaguy
10-23-2013, 18:47
Meat meat meat meat
Vote: Double A
Random org think you scum he say
Me also vote you scum think you are.
Meat meat meat.
Ibn-Khaldun
10-23-2013, 18:51
Why? You are a good candidate as everybody else.
No I am not because I am innocent townie! :stare:
Riedquat
10-23-2013, 19:01
No I am not because I am innocent townie! :stare:
An innocent townie? Interesting redundancy...
Askthepizzaguy
10-23-2013, 19:03
No I am not because I am innocent townie! :stare:
Relax
and
follow
meat
man
Or I kill you for being too nervous to live
MEAT MEAT MEAT
Current Vote Status: (Arranged first by quantity of votes, then by order in which they were voted for)
Double A: 2 votes (Darth Feather, Askthepizzaguy)
edse: 1 vote (Ishmael)
Ferret: 1 vote (autolycus)
Ishmael: 1 vote (Ibn-Khaldun)
Ibn-Khaldun: 1 vote (Riedquat)
autolycus: 1 vote (Ferret)
Abstained once (edse)
Remaining to vote: Double A
IF all votes are received within 8 hours (9:00PM today GMT -5) then Day Phase 1 will end tonight, if not, it will end tomorrow regardless of number of votes.
I'm bored, and I feel like shaking things up a little.
unvote; vote: autolycus
My vote was doing nothing on edse, anyway.
autolycus
10-24-2013, 03:23
unvote; vote Double A I don't like him being able to show up and lynch me outright.
Askthepizzaguy
10-24-2013, 05:30
I'm bored, and I feel like shaking things up a little.
unvote; vote: autolycus
My vote was doing nothing on edse, anyway.
unvote; vote Double A I don't like him being able to show up and lynch me outright.
One of these guys is scum.
MEAT MEAT MEAT
FoS: Jarema
It seems odd that you would spontaneously think Trug/Visorslash is in the game, which would suggest you were blindly following edse's vote. Interesting.
Askthepizzaguy
10-24-2013, 07:29
FoS: Jarema
It seems odd that you would spontaneously think Trug/Visorslash is in the game, which would suggest you were blindly following edse's vote. Interesting.
Is that scum tell, or Jarema tell?
Can't tell which. Meat man not good at brain stuff.
MEAT MEAT..... uh, line?
[NOT A PLAYER]
I see I've been voted twice already. :laugh4:
Maybe I should change my name to Myself, or Default?
[/NOT A PLAYER]
Askthepizzaguy
10-24-2013, 08:03
You should change it back to Visorslash, you sadistic weirdo!
Riedquat
10-24-2013, 13:38
FoS: Jarema
It seems odd that you would spontaneously think Trug/Visorslash is in the game, which would suggest you were blindly following edse's vote. Interesting.
:stare: jarema isn't playing either... FoS: Ishmael for doing like not paying attention.... or for not paying attention... :clown:
Current Vote Status: (Arranged first by quantity of votes, then by order in which they were voted for)
Double A: 3 votes (Darth Feather, Askthepizzaguy, autolycus)
autolycus: 2 votes (Ferret, Ishmael)
Ishmael: 1 vote (Ibn-Khaldun)
Ibn-Khaldun: 1 vote (Riedquat)
Abstained once (edse)
Remaining to vote: Double A
Day Phase 1 ends in ~12.5 hours at 9:00PM GMT -5. At this current moment, Double A will be lynched, fight!
Edit: We also have two votes for Trug, can't say I'm not amused :laugh4:
Off with his head! :hanged:
Double A
10-24-2013, 14:20
unvote; vote Double A I don't like him being able to show up and lynch me outright.
Well ain't that the scummiest thing I've ever heard. vote: autolycus
Well ain't that the scummiest thing I've ever heard. vote: autolycus
Double A: 3 votes (Darth Feather, Askthepizzaguy, autolycus)
autolycus: 3 votes (Ferret, Ishmael, Double A)
Ishmael: 1 vote (Ibn-Khaldun)
Ibn-Khaldun: 1 vote (Riedquat)
Abstained once (edse)
It's good to see you, Double A. :bow:
I was thinkin' you weren't gonna show :pimp:
Askthepizzaguy
10-24-2013, 14:39
Well gawrsh.
I could keep my vote on Double A, or move to Single A.
Decisions, decisions.
I foresee a serious scheduling conflict tonight so I will be ending this Day Phase 1 prematurely. Don't worry, all is fair. You'll understand once I post the write-up.
Write-up coming soon!
:thumbsup:
Day Phase 1 Write-up
The roaring crowds gather in the Meeting Hall; questions, concerns, demands, all directed at the assumed leadership of Ryan Cavanaugh and the military Captain Johan Battle, who each represent their respective branches. Ryan, the people’s man, is the only remaining blood relative of any of the 19 previous Council Members still in good health. His uncle, Cameron Cavanaugh, last remaining Council Member still alive, remains at bed rest due to an injury to the shoulder. Together the men, standing on the platform in the rather large room, attempted to calm the crowd but to no avail.
“They’re here! None of us are safe!” one Mobilian woman screamed from the back of the crowd, which set an eerie silence over them.
Another man from the front spoke up, “It’s that drifter, Ripley Tasker! Kill him!!”
The crowd surged, tearing at hoods and coats, looking to identify the older man.
“People please!! I know you’re scared, we all are, but we have to work together to survive. If we turn on each other, we’re as good as dead long before the Praters return!” Cavanaugh yelled, attempting to settle the riot.
The crowd grew even more anxious, yelling out names and what they should do to the accused.
Another man yelled out, “It’s Lincoln, Lincoln Harvey! He’s our perpetrator!”
“No, it’s Logan Adair!” a woman yelled out.
Finally, the tall powerful man Cpt. Battle spoke out. His voice, deep and loud reverberated throughout the hall, “SILENCE!!”
The crowd slowly came to a halt, staring at him, waiting for his words. He demanded respect, and some fear.
“We have to do something…” a woman said once the room became quiet, sounding nearly pitiful in her cry.
Cpt. Battle stepped forward to the edge of the platform, his military uniform crisp, his hat directly over his brow. He opened his mouth and said, “No man has evidence against another. In this battle, it’s us…” he pointed at himself, then the crowd “and them!” he pointed toward the wall outside of the outpost.
Ryan stepped forward now, “He’s right. We are all afraid and angry at the Praters for what they’ve done to us, but we have no right to take one of our own lives without due cause. We are all Mobilians, and we have that pride! We have to fight and live together, or we’ll die alone…”
The crowd stood there in silence, murmurs between individuals arose, until finally some started to dissipate and the crowd became no more.
Ryan and Johan exchanged glances, nodded in approval, and went about their business surviving, just like everybody else. “No one dies today” Ryan mouthed at Johan, a grin of victory on his face.
Explanation:
A player's assigned role is Ryan Cavanaugh, and one of his abilities/privileges was to nullify all votes during the first day phase. He chose to do so, therefore allowing me to go ahead and post the write-up prematurely due to the fact that the votes held no clout.
In other words, "No Lynch" prevailed.
Night Phase 1 begins now and will end tomorrow, Friday, at 9:00PM (GMT -5)
Those of you with nighttime abilities, please PM me ASAP. If I receive no PM from you in the allotted time then it's simply your loss and could mean your "life".
Also if you have any questions, I'm here. :bow:
Askthepizzaguy
10-24-2013, 17:59
My, my. Someone was a nervous neddie today, wasn't he.
MEAT HAS SPOKEN
Hey this looks like an awesome game, ya'll are lucky!
:stare: jarema isn't playing either... FoS: Ishmael for doing like not paying attention.... or for not paying attention... :clown:
Heh, talk about egg on my face :laugh4:.
Double A
10-25-2013, 01:19
It's good to see you, Double A. :bow:
I was thinkin' you weren't gonna show :pimp:
"Blah blah college blah blah EU3."
My, my. Someone was a nervous neddie today, wasn't he.
MEAT HAS SPOKEN
I will reveal that this order to nullify Day Phase 1's votes took place shortly after the Phase started.
"Blah blah college blah blah EU3."
I feel ya, make the grade.
Night Phase 1 Write-up
As darkness set in all eyes remained opened, but as night shifted into morning more and more people allowed themselves to rest.
The night was relative as the civilians see no sky from being indoors and mostly underground, but fatigue sets in just the same.
Guards were posted throughout the living quarters and the entrances, shifts every few hours were established to maintain fresh eyes over the innocent.
The night remained still, not a sound was heard above the occasional pitter-patter of mice feet on stone floors and water droplets from the old building's rusted plumbing. After the night had passed, people began to stir and awaken quickly to inspect themselves and their loved ones. Soldiers scanned the room for motionlessness, yet the entire population seemed alive and well.
Johan Battle was approached by his Lieutenant with the census from yesterday, 212 people, including all military personnel. After a quick announcement, all heads were counted and all names were recorded against the census. No names new, no names absent. All is well.
Day Phase 2 begins now and will end tomorrow, Saturday, at 9:00PM (GMT -5)
May the discussion begin, Vote: Abstain is still a valid vote.
:bow:
Vote:autolycus
For scummy day 1 behaviour.
Any theories on why there was no kill?
Darth Feather
10-25-2013, 20:24
Vote:autolycus
For scummy day 1 behaviour.
Any theories on why there was no kill?
I say either a roleblock or inactive scum. If it is a roleblock, it might be a good idea for the blocker to come forward. If it is an inactive scum well, I am not sure. Everyone voted today didn't they.
EDIT: Now that I think about it, Jarema and edse have been behaving weird themselves (They voted both for Visorslash who isn't playing.) :stare:
Riedquat
10-25-2013, 21:45
EDIT: Now that I think about it, Jarema and edse have been behaving weird themselves (They voted both for Visorslash who isn't playing.) :stare:
Again! Jarema isn't playing either!!!! :stare:
Again! Jarema isn't playing either!!!! :stare:
:yes:
Darth Feather
10-25-2013, 21:58
Again! Jarema isn't playing either!!!! :stare:
My bad; I should have checked the player list :wall:
Riedquat
10-25-2013, 22:05
My bad; I should have checked the player list :wall:
For submitting orders? :idea2:
Ibn-Khaldun
10-25-2013, 22:51
My bad; I should have checked the player list :wall:
For submitting orders? :idea2:
Soo.. what this means is that DF must have sent an order to kill Jarema and that is why no one died! :shrug:
Vote: Darth Feather
Askthepizzaguy
10-25-2013, 23:09
Soo.. what this means is that DF must have sent an order to kill Jarema and that is why no one died! :shrug:
Vote: Darth Feather
Vote: Ibn-Khaldun
Preposterous!
Meat meat meat
Vote Tally:
autolycus: 1 (Ferret)
Darth Feather: 1 (Ibn-Khaldun)
Ibn-Khaldun: 1 (Askthepizzaguy)
No vote so far: Double A, autolycus, Ishmael, Riedquat, edse, Darth Feather
~25 hours to go
Decisions, decisions...of I-K and autolycus, the latter is feeling slightly more scummy to me. Whilst I have nothing against people voting to save themselves, something about his post in doing so seemed off.
vote: autolycus
Riedquat
10-26-2013, 03:59
I'm to tired to make a tail of a head... or is the other way around? :dizzy2: But considering for a moment the lack of kill, the votes for abstain/visor and my own joke to DF I think I'll vote: edse for the time being.
Darth Feather
10-26-2013, 09:14
Soo.. what this means is that DF must have sent an order to kill Jarema and that is why no one died! :shrug:
Vote: Darth Feather
So you claim I sent in an order to kill Jarema and when he didn't die I said he was acting weird. I would not have asked for the blocker to come out if I was under the impression that was the reason why my kill failed.
Seems like you are ready to jump to conclusion. Scumtell? Vote: Ibn-Khaldun
Was it necessary to defend yourself against that?
Vote: Darth Feather
Riedquat
10-26-2013, 15:51
Was it necessary to defend yourself against that?
Vote: Darth Feather
:inquisitive: I wonder what you were going to do if he just omgusvoted IK... unvote; HoS: edse; Vote: Ibn-Khaldun
Double A
10-26-2013, 17:50
vote: autolycus for being scummy D1, and possibly lurking to throw off suspicion today (I don't know his Friday or Saturday schedule and I don't really feel like metagaming).
Vote Tally
autolycus: 3 (Ferret, Ishmael, Double A)
Ibn-Khaldun: 3 (Askthepizzaguy, Riedquat, Darth Feather)
Darth Feather: 2 (Ibn-Khaldun, edse)
Non-voting: autolycus
Round ends 8.5 hours!
Askthepizzaguy
10-26-2013, 18:36
I don't like this.
Double A: 3 votes (Darth Feather, Askthepizzaguy, autolycus)
autolycus: 3 votes (Ferret, Ishmael, Double A)
Ishmael: 1 vote (Ibn-Khaldun)
Ibn-Khaldun: 1 vote (Riedquat)
autolycus: 3 (Ferret, Ishmael, Double A)
Ibn-Khaldun: 3 (Askthepizzaguy, Riedquat, Darth Feather)
Darth Feather: 2 (Ibn-Khaldun, edse)
Non-voting: autolycus
Askthepizzaguy voting opposite to Double A two rounds consecutively.
Double A, Ishmael, Ferret voting Autolycus two rounds consecutively.
Darth Feather voting with Pizza two rounds consecutively, different target.
Ibn voting in such a way that deliberately doesn't decide a tie.
Reidquat voting Ibn two rounds in a row.
What's going on here?
Ibn-Khaldun
10-26-2013, 20:55
Well..
Unvote; Vote: autolycus
Askthepizzaguy
10-26-2013, 21:18
Yeah someone vote for Ibn Khaldun please. Thanks.
Riedquat
10-26-2013, 22:21
My first vote on IK was random, second was just to avoid getting DF tied with IK.
Unvote: Vote: Ibn Khaldun
autolycus has 4 hours to save himself from a tie. How are they resolved btw?
How are they resolved btw?
I would also like to know this.
They have both been acting very scummy, almost too scummy to actually be scum.
Still:
Unvote; vote: Ibn-Khaldun
autolycus has 4 hours to save himself from a tie. How are they resolved btw?
24 hour revote session, all votes set back to zero, only votes for the previously tied players will be accepted.
Or random.org
Unless I'm mistaken, the votes currently are as follows.
Ibn-Khaldun: 5 (Darth Feather, Riedquat, edse, Ferret, Askthepizzaguy)
autolycus: 3 (Ishmael, Ibn-Khaldun, Double A)
Non-voting: autolycus
2.5 hours left
Extending the round 24 hours because I'm out of town and don't really have the time to put out an amazing write-up.
Askthepizzaguy
10-27-2013, 06:44
Our glorious host's word is law, but it was clear that Ibn-Khaldun was to be the rightful lynch today, and that the people voting him truly intended to put him to death. No one would have known ahead of time that extra time would be allotted.
So, I'd like to hear from Ibn. Who and what are you?
Autolycus, second verse, same as the first. You got saved from death due in part to my pushing Ibn and Ferret breaking the tie.
You could just as easily have been put to death and if Ibn flips town, I'll want to know who in the blue heck you are.
That's about as articulate as I care to be. Meat shielding this game.
MEAT MEAT MEAT
Ibn-Khaldun
10-27-2013, 20:00
I am townie. Just an ordinary townie without any powers etc.
Actually...
Unvote; Vote: Ibn-Khaldun
I have nothing to loose here anymore..
Askthepizzaguy
10-27-2013, 20:28
Unvote; Vote: Ibn-Khaldun
I have nothing to loose here anymore..
Lose one of the "o"s in lose.
Too many "o"s means that your spelling is not very tight, and you need loose pants to accommodate the additional "o"s.
Self-voting is silly.
Unvote
Askthepizzaguy
10-27-2013, 20:29
Meat meat meat
What on earth are you doing, I-K?
Ibn-Khaldun
10-28-2013, 02:05
I am showing you that voting me is silly. Voting autolycus or Darth Feather makes more sense.
Double A
10-28-2013, 02:40
Basically everything other than this day phase makes more sense.
vote: Ibn for providing a bloody WIFOM.
Okay, Day Phase 2 has ended! Please allow a few hours for the write-up, I'm an hour from home!
Double A
10-28-2013, 03:11
Crap I forgot to unvote.
Day Phase 2 Write-up
Sitting in the back against the wall of the meeting hall, Seth Lanson (Ibn-Khaldun) watched on as chaos slowly unfolded. Paranoia, conspiracy theories, even cabin fever was setting in as the hungry, tired, and anxious people congregated together. There was no kill last night, which to the average man would mean there is no killer, but when the imagination runs wild in an insomniac mind driven by fear that apparently is not the case.
Names being yelled out from every corner of the room, frightened mothers and defensive fathers, troublemakers and peacemakers alike seem to all collectively crowd towards the entropy of what was left of their society. The leadership in front of them, bearing the titles of authority, seems to have no effect on the hungry crowd.
The question is no longer what they want. They want blood. They want a sacrifice to atone for the sins of their enemies; someone to take their hate out on. Someone to blame.
In amongst the chaos, the roaring indecipherable murmur slowly focuses in on one undeniable message. A name.
“Lanson… Lanson… LANSON… LANSON!!!” The young man, hooded and alone in the back was soon consumed by the crowd and carried to the front. Fists and feet fly from him as he attempts to tear from the crowd, but regretfully he doesn’t have the power of a hundred hands like they do.
They made him to rest on his knees at the foot of the stage, holding back the very few who truly wished for his life to be spared. “Please, no! I’m not a Prater; I hate them just like you! I’m not your man!” Seth Lanson proclaimed in agony, tears falling from his eyes. He begged, he pleaded, which seemed to only fuel the flame of the riot.
A man bearing a knife made his way towards Seth, and got behind him, holding him there with the knife to his throat. The crowd egged him on, demanding his death. And so it was, his throat was cut, and his life removed from him.
As if planned, all tension from the room vanished along with Seth Lanson. People somehow felt comforted and satisfied with the death of this man. They sigh a breath of relief, for now...
Explanation:
Lynch 1: Townie – Seth Lanson (Ibn-Khaldun)
Night Phase 2 begins now and will end tomorrow, Monday, at 9:00PM (GMT -5)
Those of you with nighttime abilities, please PM me ASAP. If I receive no PM from you in the allotted time then it's simply your loss and could mean your "life".
Also if you have any questions, I'm here. :bow:
Askthepizzaguy
10-28-2013, 06:17
In general that was a lame ending to that round.
Bad play, all.
MEAT
Just a quick update: Waiting on one PM to finish out the Night Phase and then I will do the write-up. He has until 9:00PM (4.5 hours) to comply.
Word of advise: It is often appealing to remain quiet during the first few day phases of a new mafia game to draw attention away from yourselves and attempt to "survive" the game until something is revealed via write-up. I'll have you know that through my experiences the more discussion that takes place, the more data is revealed and the EASIER it is for the Town. And this is especially true for smaller mafia games where there are less individuals to try to keep track of.
LYNCH the lurkers, they're often attempting to keep attention off of themselves. The more discussion that takes place, the higher the chance of a Town victory.
That is all. :bow:
Night Phase 2 Write-up
After the lynching of Seth Lanson, the Mobilian peoples rested. It was as if a spirit of peace and tranquility fell over them. Families reassured themselves and each other that everything was going to be okay. People actually started smiling and laughing again. Some of the kids ran together, played hide and seek and other imaginary games. Spirits were definitely higher now, but perhaps prematurely...
Night fell and the people rested, guards were more lax, some even fell asleep, to their demise...
A man dressed in a black cloak sat and watched as eyes closed and movement ceased, then he slowly crept his way to his first target.
Manuel Foster (Askthepizzaguy) had perched himself between two larger families in which he was familiar with, as his entire family had been lost to the Praters. Alone he rested in his sleeping bag on his back, facing a small crack in the walls where he could sometimes see the distant shine of a star. He was asleep when the man in the black cloak reached him, and with a quick move he covered his mouth and sliced his throat. This slice wasn't one meant to bleed him out, no... this was meant to mute the man. Manuel woke up, startled, screaming at the top of his lungs but nothing but silence coming from him. The assailant kept his hand over his mouth, and held him down to avoid making any noise or noticeable movement. He bent down and whispered in Manuel's ear, "Pratia has you... my name is Hayden Matthews, you might have heard of me. Nothing personal, but you're on the list." Then he drove the knife home severing the arteries in Manuel's neck. He bled out in seconds.
The next morning screams woke the Mobilian's from the families near Manuel Foster's body. Ryan and Cpt. Battle ran over inspecting the dark red stained carcass, "Who is responsible for this??" Ryan yelled out in grief. He looked back quickly at the gathering crowd, "Found him! Find the man responsible, and I will have his head!"
Explanation:
Kill 1: Townie – Manuel Foster (Askthepizzaguy)
Day Phase 3 begins now and will end tomorrow, Tuesday, at 11:59PM (GMT -5)
At present, the only person I find scummy is autolycus, based on the vibe I got from his D1 posting. I'm open to a more reasoned case, but I see no reason to deviate at present.
vote: autolycus
So either there were a successful block the first night or we have an "every even night" killer.
Or an ~inactive killer :O, Vote: autolycus were absent yesterday.
Darth Feather
10-29-2013, 12:48
Autolycus seems the obvious choice right now. Vote: Autolycus
I am leaning towards a protector who protected first night, because a blocker would have been wise to come out. (that is, if it isn't really due to an inactive killer)
Riedquat
10-29-2013, 13:52
A protection, would have been in the write up, somehow. The killer was inactive, by mechanics, by choice or by circumstances.
I reiterate Atpg petition, come forward and tell us who and what are you.
Clarification for those not reading my mind: to Autolycus!
autolycus
10-29-2013, 19:07
Hi guys, I'm Aaron Anduin, son of Areos from the last game and vanilla. I was indeed out of town and afc over the weekend. I had thought this might be a paranoia game, but last night's kill puts a damper on that. Top suspect for me right now is vote: Darth Feather, but that's purely based on bandwagon principles
Riedquat
10-29-2013, 19:21
Hi guys, I'm Aaron Anduin, son of Areos from the last game and vanilla. I was indeed out of town and afc over the weekend. I had thought this might be a paranoia game, but last night's kill puts a damper on that. Top suspect for me right now is vote: Darth Feather, but that's purely based on bandwagon principles
No, you aren't Aaron Anduin! :stare: Liar! Vote: Autolycus The write up for first day shows your name and Doble A's name and none is Aaron nor Anduin!
No, you aren't Aaron Anduin! :stare: Liar! Vote: Autolycus The write up for first day shows your name and Doble A's name and none is Aaron nor Anduin!
I don't think those names have anything to do with the players. Otherwise we could scratch them both from being Hayden Matthews.
Riedquat
10-29-2013, 21:09
I don't think those names have anything to do with the players. Otherwise we could scratch them both from being Hayden Matthews.
Cover role? Thought about this, but write ups are really detailed, sadly who can confirm this is Double A, candidate nº 2 ... after all Ryan exist and I suspect the Cpt Johan too
autolycus
10-29-2013, 21:28
No, you aren't Aaron Anduin! :stare: Liar! Vote: Autolycus The write up for first day shows your name and Doble A's name and none is Aaron nor Anduin!
There are three names listed in the write-up as being accused: Logan Adair, Lincoln Harvey, and Ripley Tasker. It is possible those names align with the other three people voted, namely Ishmael, Double A, and Ibn-Khaldun. If one of them shows up, they may be able to speak to this. If so, then if there aren't cover roles, we can clear them, otherwise we can't. Regardless, I am indeed Aaron Anduin, as you'll find out in just a little bit unless this wagon turns around.
autolycus
10-29-2013, 21:34
Just remembered that I-K is dead, and he wasn't one of those names, and I'm not, so I'm pretty sure the names called out on day 1 mean nothing except that players by those names may exist.
I think you are right and Aaron is in this game.
Unvote: Vote: Double A where have you been all day?
Riedquat
10-29-2013, 22:01
Unvote; Vote: abstain In all honesty I missed Ripley Tasker... :shrug:
Riedquat
10-29-2013, 22:04
Gosh... unvote, vote: Double A Care to identify yourself?
There are three names listed in the write-up as being accused: Logan Adair, Lincoln Harvey, and Ripley Tasker. It is possible those names align with the other three people voted, namely Ishmael, Double A, and Ibn-Khaldun. If one of them shows up, they may be able to speak to this. If so, then if there aren't cover roles, we can clear them, otherwise we can't. Regardless, I am indeed Aaron Anduin, as you'll find out in just a little bit unless this wagon turns around.
You are correct that there were four people voted D1: Double A, autolycus, I-K and Ishmael; and that only three names were called out in the write-up: Logan Adair, Lincoln Harvey and Ripley Tasker. I can confirm that I am Logan Adair. Interestingly, the write-up of I-K's lynching tells us that he was Seth Lanson, who wasn't listed D1. Therefore we have two names not matched to people from the D1 write-up, and I find it unlikely a name was thrown in that doesn't correspond to somebody being voted. To me, this suggests some fibbing going on as a result of a cover role: my vote for autolycus stands.
With that said, confirmation as to who you are would be helpful, Double A.
autolycus
10-30-2013, 00:03
edse and ferret were also voted that day, although they were unvoted by the end of the day. It is possible that one of them is Lincoln Harvey or Ripley Tasker.
Ishmael, why would I claim a character that I wasn't, if I had a cover of Lincoln Harvey or Ripley Tasker? We've already established that Hayden Matthews is the killer again, so it can't be that I'm worried about getting mentioned in the kill write-ups. I may be lazy, but I'm not stupid.
Just a quick tally:
Double A: 2 (edse, Riedquat)
autolycus: 2 (Ishmael, Darth Feather)
Darth Feather: 1 (autolycus)
Non-voting: Double A & Ferret
Voting will end in approximately 5.5 hours. Enjoy!
I am inclined to believe autolycus at the moment. So in the interest of seein him not lynched I will:
Vote:Double A
edse and ferret were also voted that day, although they were unvoted by the end of the day. It is possible that one of them is Lincoln Harvey or Ripley Tasker.
Ishmael, why would I claim a character that I wasn't, if I had a cover of Lincoln Harvey or Ripley Tasker? We've already established that Hayden Matthews is the killer again, so it can't be that I'm worried about getting mentioned in the kill write-ups. I may be lazy, but I'm not stupid.
Fair point. I won't be around for the rest of the afternoon to see what Double A has to say if he shows up, so I'll just unvote for now.
unvote.
Round is over, very interesting arguments people! According to the votes, Double A is being lynched. Unfortunately I don't have the energy tonight to do a writeup but I'll do it first thing in the morning. For those of you with night abilities, you may go ahead and pm me.
Thank you for your patience :bow:
Double A
10-30-2013, 07:15
I think you are right and Aaron is in this game.
Unvote: Vote: Double A where have you been all day?
School and lynching Kennigit on CFC.
Gosh... unvote, vote: Double A Care to identify yourself?
Lincoln Continental.
Day Phase 3 Write-up
Lincoln Harvey (Double A) at the time of the witnessing of Manuel Foster's murder was nowhere to be found. People searched high and low for the derelict, to question them and determine who their killer was, and for every passing minute Lincoln Harvey didn't show his face, the masses grew more and more suspicious of him.
Hours went by, small crowds led by social leaders demanding to others for his location but to no avail, the man was gone.
Eventually discovered asleep in an abandoned closet near the South side of the building, his accusers gave him no chance to explain himself. He was drug from him small paradise and into the center of the meeting hall where 209 angry civilians and soldiers alike awaited him.
"Where were you last night? Why were you asleep this late? Why were you isolated in there? Murderer!" bleated out different members of the crowd and finally Ryan hushed them.
"Defend yourself Lincoln, you've been very suspicious, there's over 200 people in here who want your head." He leaned in closer, "You need to be very convincing..."
Lincoln's hands were tied beneath his back, a blood stain and trail on his head from where they hit him to cease his struggling when they drug him in. He was on his knees facing Ryan Cavanaugh, the angry crowd surrounding them patiently waiting.
Lincoln's face went from surprised and shocked, to angry, and finally to emotionless. He gave up, and said nothing.
"Kill him." Ryan gestured to Cpt. Battle, who indicated to one of his soldiers to get the job done. Logan Adair, one of the few remaining Mobilian soldiers still alive, walked slowly over with his silenced military grade Beretta 90 pistol and put the barrel to Lincoln's head. Lincoln closed his eyes, apparently stunned silent, tears collecting on his eyelids.
Logan pulled the trigger, the rebound effect of the shot sent Lincoln's body sailing backwards after an instinctual arching of the dead man's back. His carcass hit the floor, and a blood pool quickly surrounded him.
Ryan Cavanaugh faced the crowd, "Let's hope, for our sakes, he was our murderer." He points and looks at Lincoln's dead body, then looks back, "For our sakes..."
Explanation:
Lynch 2: Townie – Lincoln Harvey (Double A)
Night Phase 3 begins now and will end tonight, Wednesday, at 9:00PM (GMT -5)
Those of you with nighttime abilities, please PM me ASAP. Because this is officially a short round, I will extend the time if not all orders are received on time. Solid deadline would be tomorrow night, Thursday, and 9:00PM.
Also if you have any questions, I'm here. :bow:
Edit:
Comment - I hope you players and possible readers are enjoying these write-ups, because I sure am :2thumbsup:
Comment: All but one order was already received, but due to the nature of the orders, the last person's isn't necessary. Going ahead with the write-up.
Night Phase 3 Write-up
Ripley Tasker witnessed from afar both lynches and was one of the first to discover the kill by Hayden Matthews. The older man, a drifter who found himself between a Prater army and their target found himself integrated into the population of remnants. He saw the carnage of the battle and he saw the tragedies of three lost lives inside of the compound, and he was bound and determined to get out of Mobile as soon as he could. He dreamed of his people, a small pack of twenty or so other drifters, who lived off of what they found and avoided any and all contact with outside life. He missed this privacy, he missed the trust he had in them, and the security it posed.
Laying to sleep that night the gray bearded man chose to remain in his first spot which was near to the masses but on the outskirts. He knew Lincoln Harvey wasn't the mafia, he also knew Seth Lanson from the day before wasn't either, but his one voice wouldn't be heard over the crowd. Remaining silent, he rested.
He woke suddenly and sat up, looking around. He had heard what he thought was the unsheathing of a knife, but possibly it was a dream... He laid back down after a few minutes of still silence. Staying in a state of stasis, near sleep but still conscious, he became aware of a presence nearing him. He stayed motionless until the presence was close enough to touch, when he sprung up awake to confront the man. He saw him, Hayden Matthews, for just an instant, hooded in black. "Stop! Murderer!" the old man yelled, startling the sleeping crowd. Johan was near him, and came to him, "What is it?"
Ripley looked back in the direction where Hayden had ran, "I saw him, the murderer. He's still alive!"
A small crowd has gathered around Ripley and Johan at this point, Ryan approached him, "You're sure?" Ripley nodded, a wise look in his eyes, grateful for his training. He had not fallen prey to Hayden Matthews today.
Ryan gathered the Mobilian citizens, Ripley Tasker, Johan Battle, and Logan Adair stood up there with him scanning the crowd. Tasker had seen his face, and remained ever vigilant in attempting to identify the murderer.
Ryan began to speak, "Friends, our murderer has been spotted again tonight by this man," He put his hand on Ripley's shoulder. "We must find him and resurrect the peace that we've lost. No one is safe until he is found, and put out of OUR misery!"
Explanation:
Kill attempt on Ripley Tasker.
Day Phase 4 begins now and will end tomorrow, Thursday, at 9:00PM (GMT -5)
edit:
Comment - Another fun write-up :2thumbsup:
Darth Feather
10-30-2013, 16:36
I do read the write ups, especially if they are really fun (like Andres write-ups) :2thumbsup:
Autolycus' reaction seemed genuinely enough, so I will not vote for him.
I would like to know who is Ripley Tasker as he showed up both in the line of I-K-voters and was attacked last night. Ryan Cavanaugh is most likely edse since he was the first to vote for DoubleA
So probably either Ferret or riedquat.
Montmorency
10-30-2013, 16:43
Haven't really been following this one, but:
Ryan gathered the Mobilian citizens, Ripley Tasker, Johan Battle, and Logan Adair stood up there with him scanning the crowd.
If these are flavor roles, and are all town, then shouldn't 4 people just reveal now and win the game?
Darth Feather
10-30-2013, 16:47
Maybe the scum have a cover role.
Well I will reveal, I am captain Johan Battle.
autolycus
10-30-2013, 17:42
Role claims:
Aaron Anduin: autolycus
Captain Battle: darth feather
Logan Adair: ishmael
ripley tasker:???
Ryan Cavanaugh: ???
???: riedquat
???: edse
???: ferret
If there aren't cover roles, claims win here.
If there are, Ripley claiming still helps us, since he is clearly exonerated.
My name is Michael Engels. I haven't been mentioned in the write-ups yet. But there must be a cover role for Hayden with names appearing so frequently in the write-up. Otherwise 5 people would have been cleared after day 1.
Apparently there was no kill attempt at the first night as a failed one obviously show.
Time to come forward then.
I am Ripley Tasker, which obviously means I'm not scum, given the write up we just had.
But there must surely be cover roles, I doubt the host would make it do easy as just finding out who has the name of the bad guy...
Based on nothing more than a feeling:
Vote: edse
Riedquat
10-30-2013, 19:43
Maybe the scum have a cover role.
Well I will reveal, I am captain Johan Battle.
Not time to say much else, but you can call me Ried Cuat if you wish! ;)
autolycus
10-30-2013, 20:42
Ok, so ferret is definitely cleared and riedquat probably is, since he stopped the lynch. That leaves me, edse, darth feather and ishmael. Ishmael feels off to me. vote: Ishmael until I have time to do a more detailed analysis.
Darth Feather
10-30-2013, 20:58
I have mostly a bad feeling about edse. Perhaps it is just cause he isn't mentionned in the write up, but I have a bad feeling about him.
Vote: edse
Riedquat
10-30-2013, 21:19
Apparently there was no kill attempt at the first night as a failed one obviously show.
That is why I was suspicious of you shortly after day 1, you just voted for trug/visor/abstain and disappeared after that... but your behaviour since then has been normal at least to me.
To be clear enough, I'm Ryan Cavanaugh, I ordered the no lynch on day 1 because it was an ability available only on day 1 and when I get an ability I use it!
Ferret is cleared if nobody else claim to be Ripley Tasker.
Now, Johan you protected Tasker?
Darth Feather
10-30-2013, 21:33
That is why I was suspicious of you shortly after day 1, you just voted for trug/visor/abstain and disappeared after that... but your behaviour since then has been normal at least to me.
To be clear enough, I'm Ryan Cavanaugh, I ordered the no lynch on day 1 because it was an ability available only on day 1 and when I get an ability I use it!
Ferret is cleared if nobody else claim to be Ripley Tasker.
Now, Johan you protected Tasker?
nope, I did not. Can't protect anyone. There must be another one who is doctor. Or the killing is not 100% accurate.
One of these guys is scum.
MEAT MEAT MEAT
In times of need, turn to Pizza.
Ishmael, why did you want to "shake things up"?
Darth Feather
10-30-2013, 21:57
Suddenly I realised I can pinpoint the culprit tomorrow in ANY case.
I am an odd-night scanner.
I scanned two townies innocent (Autolycus and Ishmael). Ferret can't be guilty either. I know I am innocent. If you lynch edse today, and he doesn't flip scum, you can lynch Riedquat tomorrow because I know one of them is scum. So please vote edse. If he is town, he should understand. Even if I am scum and I am trying to confuse you, you can lynch me the day after and finish the game.
Also I don't want protection tonight. Should the scum be stupid enough to kill me tonight, I will be cleared of all suspicion.
Even if I am scum and I am trying to confuse you, you can lynch me the day after and finish the game.
Or we could finish it today. I'm a protector, but I didn't protect Ferret, so there is another protector (or possibility of failed kill). With a scanner as well (every second night but nonetheless) the town feels quite strong to say the least.
Lynch edse. I don't believe there could be two protectors.
Who have you protected so far then edse?
Myself, myself, autolycus. It is mentioned in my role pm that I should secure Aaron's survival (that's how I knew Aaron was in the game) so I figured Hayden would attack him.
autolycus
10-30-2013, 23:39
Suddenly I realised I can pinpoint the culprit tomorrow in ANY case.
I am an odd-night scanner.
I scanned two townies innocent (Autolycus and Ishmael). Ferret can't be guilty either. I know I am innocent. If you lynch edse today, and he doesn't flip scum, you can lynch Riedquat tomorrow because I know one of them is scum. So please vote edse. If he is town, he should understand. Even if I am scum and I am trying to confuse you, you can lynch me the day after and finish the game.
Also I don't want protection tonight. Should the scum be stupid enough to kill me tonight, I will be cleared of all suspicion.
We actually can't. Assuming no more survivals, this is our second to last lynch. 6-5 today, 5-4 tonight. So I think I may favor lynching you tomorrow, but for tonight, unvote, vote: edse
Darth Feather
10-30-2013, 23:43
We actually can't. Assuming no more survivals, this is our second to last lynch. 6-5 today, 5-4 tonight. So I think I may favor lynching you tomorrow, but for tonight, unvote, vote: edse
Fair enough. Riedquat seems indeed townie. So I am quite sure it is edse. If he is not scum, well,... Very well played then Riedquat :2thumbsup:
Riedquat
10-31-2013, 00:48
nope, I did not. Can't protect anyone. There must be another one who is doctor. Or the killing is not 100% accurate.
It was a tricky question, of course. I know who is the doctor in question, he protected himself and I encourage him to keep doing so. There are two doctors I know of from the start, not three dear edse.
I am one, and I've been informed that only me knew of the existence of other one, but not who was he. Ferret protected himself last night, and I intended to keep protecting myself, as I didn't submit my order but wasn't attacked anyway my order wasn't needed and the night was shorter.
So edse you are lying! Vote: edse
Riedquat
10-31-2013, 00:52
:P
Vote: edse as I edited my previous post!
Well, this seems a pretty clear decision.
vote: edse
If it's not him then we should lynch Riedquat tomorrow, I suppose, but this would be a very odd thing to do as scum.
Riedquat
10-31-2013, 01:18
There are a couple things that keep bothering me, first why two doctors in a game this size and secondly the scanner, or I must say, also the scanner. I'm not creating doubts deliberately against you DF, believe me in this! But 3 power roles against a single scum... seems odd. One thing is sure, edse is scum, but I wonder if there is somebody else.
Three more or less bulletproof players and a scanner? There's no way that scan is trustworthy. Vote: Ishmael
Please, think this through.
Vote Tally:
edse: 5 (Ferret, Darth Feather, autlycus, Riedquat, Ishmael)
Ishmael: 1 (edse)
~10 hours to go!
Day Phase 4 Write-up
After hours of deliberation, anger burning through veins, heightened voices, and even tears, the town finished their debate by settling on one man who's guilt seemed to shine brightly. "Michael, get Michael! He's been acting strange this entire time! KILL HIM!!" chanted the crowd.
"KILL HIM! KILL HIM! KILL HIM!" The uproar of voices filled the chamber as he was tore from his cloak and forced to stand alone in the center of the ravenous group. They all looked to Cpt. Battle to initiate the kill. Even Ryan Cavanaugh seemed supportive, whom from before this time seemed against the loss of any lives.
"KILL HIM! KILL HIM!! KILL HIM!!!" The crowd grew more anxious, spitting on the man, throwing what they could at him, making it obvious they no longer wanted his company.
Their victim's eyes were bright red and moist, he cried out, "I am innocent! I'm only here to watch over Aaron! Please!!" His voice was lost in the crowd, indistinguishable among the bleating sheep. "KILL HIM!! KILL HIM!!!"
Johan raised his hand in silence, the man was already head and shoulders taller than most everyone else in the crowd, and with his hand up he was visible from all around. He walked into the center of the clearing where Michael Engels resided, hands bound. "You want his head!?"
The crowd exploded, blood lust abound. All they wanted was to see the man drop and never again rise.
"Then stand aside!" Johan Battle pulled out his own military grade pistol and aimed it at the defenseless man's forehead. As he went for the trigger an older man in an arm sling burst into the clearing and stood in between the two men.
"Uncle!" Ryan Cavanaugh entered the clearing as well, the crowd silenced now in curiosity and anxiousness. "What are you doing?"
"I'm fine, thanks for asking." Returned Cameron Cavanaugh, Ryan's uncle and last remaining Council member still alive, had been wounded by gunshot in the shoulder and bed ridden due to an infection. Apparently his fever had subsided...
Cameron stood up straight, his old face was kind but stern, a solid gray beard distinguished him for most of the younger survivors. He turned to the crowd, "What have we become?" His voice was weak from sickness and age, but still commanded respect. "We are NOT barbarians, we are Mobilians. Have you lost your sense of honor? Your respect for life? Have you discovered blood on this man's hands? The murder weapon in his pack? Have you ANY EVIDENCE??" His voice rose, anger apparent.
He looked back at Johan and Ryan, "There's blood on your hands boys, YOUR hands, and there won't be any more. This is over..." He looked down and then back at Michael. "Keep your eyes on this man, continue your investigation. This masquerade of evil is over."
Explanation:
No lynch (Game mechanic has been set since the get-go, No Lynch for Day 4)
Night Phase 4 begins now and will end tomorrow, Friday, at 9:00PM (GMT -5)
Those of you with nighttime abilities, please PM me ASAP.
Riedquat
11-01-2013, 03:05
:wall: And here we are... Ferret, protect yourself!
Due to the level of tension that surrounds this turn, I will be allowing extra time for all orders to be received. I realize several people are traveling and since it's Friday, being busy is commonplace.
Turn will end as soon as all orders are received, not to exceed 72 hours from the start of the round, as per the all-powerful Gameroom Law.
:book2:
Ferret is has arrived.
Edit: Working on the write-up!
Night Phase 4 Write-up
"Ryan! Captain Battle! Mr. Tasker!" Aaron Anduin yelled out the names of the men he had come to respect and look up to. His inexperience and youth shined brightly in his big eyes and smooth jaw. "Come quick!"
The men from each of their resting spots, Ryan next to his uncle Cameron, Captain Johan among his closest fellow soldiers, and Ripley Tasker all alone, arose quickly and followed young Anduin. "Somebody's been attacked! He's bleeding!"
The small group arrived at the body of Michael Engels, man whom the previous day had been put on trial and sentenced to death. He had a massive gouge in his neck from what seemed to be a knife wound, his body stiffening, his life draining.
"Ryan, go grab my pack, the brown one next to my sleeping bag. I may be able to help him!" Ripley requested of Ryan, whom wasn't the fastest of the group, or the most nimble, but Aaron just didn't seem reliable enough.
A small crowd had gathered around the response team, Ripley elevated Michael's head and applied pressure. Once Ryan had arrived Ripley sprung into action mixing some herbs together into a paste and rubbing it over the wound. Then after patching it, he mixed another set of herbs and placed it under Michael's nose and onto his chest.
The set of men waited quietly for a moment, Ripley's ear to Michael's nose listening for breath. After a moment he looked up, "He'll live."
"How did you know to do that?" Ryan asked the wise man.
"Years of practice." Tasker replied, reorganizing his pack.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
That morning Michael, whose breath had been slowly gaining strength, opened his eyes, a positive sign that Ripley had somehow saved the dying man.
"We have to do something..." Ryan said to his uncle, whom had taken charge the day before.
"We will."
Cameron stood in front of the crowd, his nephew with him. Michael lay near the base of the stage, eyes open but unable to speak. "Murdered one of us, attempted murder on two. Bring our enemy to me, I'll take care of him." The old man said this calmly, confidently, and walked off the stage.
Explanation:
Kill attempt on Michael Engels.
Day Phase 5 begins now and will end Monday, at 9:00PM (GMT -6)
Time Remaining:
Riedquat
11-02-2013, 22:00
I'm confuse... he was telling the truth and protected himself? :dizzy2:
Who do you scanned DF?
No, I revived him, or else he would have died.
So two questions really. One: why didn't edse protect himself?
Two: who on earth would have attacked edse when he was the town's leading suspect?
Was it someone not paying attention to the game or, much more likely, someone trying to confuse the hell out of us.
My leading suspect is Ishmael right now, because confusing the town just seems like something he'd enjoy doing. I need to go back and re-read the thread before making a vote though.
Darth Feather
11-02-2013, 22:55
I'm confuse... he was telling the truth and protected himself? :dizzy2:
Who do you scanned DF?
No one, odd night scanner y'know.
But I am strating to question the accuracy of my scan. How is edse the killtarget.
Riedquat
11-02-2013, 23:59
No, I revived him, or else he would have died.
So two questions really. One: why didn't edse protect himself?
Two: who on earth would have attacked edse when he was the town's leading suspect?
Was it someone not paying attention to the game or, much more likely, someone trying to confuse the hell out of us.
My leading suspect is Ishmael right now, because confusing the town just seems like something he'd enjoy doing. I need to go back and re-read the thread before making a vote though.
I like to confuse the town while mafia too! But clarify this to me, you protected edse?
I thought me or DF were to get attacked, I had that paranoid certainty I was going to die...
Zain can we get an extended phase? weekend is a bit messy at least for me.
I've decided to go through and summarise all role/identity claims made so far, because I was getting rather confused. If I've missed anything pertinent, please let me know.
Alive (Identity, Role)
Darth Feather: Johan Battle, Odd-night scanner
-Scanned autolycus and Ishmael as innocent
Riedquat: Ryan Cavanaugh, D1 No lynch power & Doctor
-Informed of the existence of another doctor, but not their identity
-Protected himself at least one night
Ishmael: Logan Adair, No Role
edse: Michael Engels, Protector
-Protected himself, himself, autolycus
-Personal goal to ensure Aaron's survival
autolycus: Aaron Anduin, No Role
Ferret: Ripley Tasker, Doctor/reviver
-Protected himself at least one night (according to Riedquat)
-N4 revives edse
Dead (Identity, Role)
I-K: Seth Lanson, Townie (presumably no role)
ATPG: Manuel Foster, Townie
Double A: Lincoln Harvey, Townie
It may take me a little while to sift through that, so bear with me. In the meantime - Riedquat, could you elaborate on your earlier comment that you were informed of the existence of one, and only one, other doctor in your role PM? Does the fact that Ferret is saying that he revived edse, rather than protected him, change matters?
My leading suspect is Ishmael right now, because confusing the town just seems like something he'd enjoy doing. I need to go back and re-read the thread before making a vote though.
Heh, I'm not quite so blatant as to try the same trick in two games in a row :beam:.
EDIT: Another question - Ferret, what made you decide to protect/revive edse, given that he seemed to be one of the most unlikely kill targets? Did you just figure the killer would not want to go with somebody obvious?
Zain can we get an extended phase? weekend is a bit messy at least for me.
End of this phase is tomorrow night, not tonight. If things are still looking blurry tomorrow then I'll extend it into Monday.
autolycus
11-03-2013, 04:36
For the moment, I vote:Darth Feather If Darth Feather is telling the truth, either his scan is flawed and ishmael or myself is scum(possible, but a bid odd), riedquat is both the day 1 lynch stopper and the scum (seems unlikely), or one of the people attacked attacked himself (almost impossible)
Riedquat
11-03-2013, 05:19
Riedquat, could you elaborate on your earlier comment that you were informed of the existence of one, and only one, other doctor in your role PM? Does the fact that Ferret is saying that he revived edse, rather than protected him, change matters?
EDIT: Another question - Ferret, what made you decide to protect/revive edse, given that he seemed to be one of the most unlikely kill targets?
I think, you are answering the question. Why to protect the guy we all decided to lynch yesterday? The write up mention most of us were there and Ferret healed him but I wonder if it is just cosmetics or he really protected him. If edse was a real doctor, he would protect himself... as same Ferret asked... this is disturbing and really confusing.
Riedquat
11-03-2013, 05:35
For the moment, I vote:Darth Feather If Darth Feather is telling the truth, either his scan is flawed and ishmael or myself is scum(possible, but a bid odd), riedquat is both the day 1 lynch stopper and the scum (seems unlikely), or one of the people attacked attacked himself (almost impossible)
Why impossible? Unlikely of course but Impossible? After all, when Ferret and Pizza got attacked there were an assassin in the write up, now we just found the injured victim...
That could explain why we are scratching our heads about what just happened.
I am pleased this game has become more than a simple mafia game, everyone enjoys a twist, especially in hindsight.
Darth Feather
11-03-2013, 12:18
I am completely at a loss. Ishmael might be trying to confuse the :daisy: out of us. I think though, someone is trying to frame me. I also don't get why the mafia would bother to try to kill edse. He claimed doctor and was main suspect. That would mean the kill was unlikely to succeed AND it would rob us of our main suspect. Because I've got nothing else to go with I am going to Vote: Ishmael against what my scan told me.
Another question - Ferret, what made you decide to protect/revive edse, given that he seemed to be one of the most unlikely kill targets? Did you just figure the killer would not want to go with somebody obvious?
I have two abilities, I can protect someone (has been myself every night so far) and revive someone if they are attacked (which I used on edse). I would have been able to keep ATPG alive earlier in the game too but I missed the order deadline. :sweatdrop:
riedquat is both the day 1 lynch stopper and the scum (seems unlikely)
I see no reason why this couldn't be the case. Riedquat has been arousing my suspicions all game, I actually wrote a few paragraphs about it in my last post, but then deleted it when I remembered that I always feel that way about Riedquat.
This claim about the protectors does concern me though. If edse really does have that ability then either Riedquat is lying about what his role PM said (saying that he knew there was one other would be a pretty safe thing for a scum to do, especially if he didn't have the ability himself. It's not a stretch to get people to believe there would be a doctor in a game this size, even if they didn't reveal themselves. So a potential scum bluff) or he misinterpreted the wording somehow and all three of us really do have protection abilities.
Really, we need to hear from edse and what his actions were last night. Most importantly why he wasn't protecting himself if he has the ability that he claimed.
For now though: vote: Riedquat
One final topic to mull over is whether there actually is mafia or not. It is hinted at both in the OP and throughout my role PM and I feel as though Zain wouldn't have done that without good reason. Though if that is the case then I don't know where the attacks are coming from or how we actually win...
I am pleased this game has become more than a simple mafia game, everyone enjoys a twist, especially in hindsight.
If I turn out to have a double identity that's killing people, I will not be happy :laugh4:.
As for scum, I'm thinking either Darth Feather or Riedquat, with autolycus coming in third. The disclaimer here is that this is mostly by process of elimination and hunches. If it weren't for the previous night phase I would be almost certain that edse was guilty, but as it stands it seems highly unlikely that he or Ferret are scum (unless they are both a mafia team, in which case all bets are off. Actually, that's a worrying possibility). With regards to my above suspects, I'll let the write-ups tip the balance for now.
vote: Riedquat
Vote Tally:
Riedquat: 2 (Ferret, Ishmael)
Ishmael: 2 (Darth Feather, edse from post #156)
Darth Feather: 1 (autolycus)
Non-voting: 1 (Riedquat)
12.5 hours
Thank you Ferret :bow:
Really, we need to hear from edse and what his actions were last night. Most importantly why he wasn't protecting himself if he has the ability that he claimed.
I was protecting autolycus as the previous night. I guess the killer saw it as an opportunity to get rid of one protector.
Darth Feather was the obvious target so why wasn't he targeted? I think the killer finds Darth useful. That would be either Ishmael or autolycus, autolycus is cleared by my role pm so it leaves only Ishmael.Vote: Ismael
Riedquat
11-03-2013, 17:33
We are completely confused... I won't vote, but a vote switch here will get myself cleared if lynched and our next suspect.
Darth Feather
11-03-2013, 18:20
We are completely confused...
Second that ~:confused:
Day extended 24 hours, ends tomorrow night at 9:00 PM.
Riedquat
11-04-2013, 14:02
Darth Feather was the obvious target so why wasn't he targeted? I think the killer finds Darth useful. That would be either Ishmael or autolycus, autolycus is cleared by my role pm so it leaves only Ishmael.Vote: Ismael
Please, enlighten me, how is possible the killer could find DF useful? And how my reveal of only two doctors don't affect you in the minimum, those finding this revelation odd have expressed their suspicion against me, but you chose to go after Ishmael, instead of me or DF.
Two doctors people, not three! And that is the only thing I know for sure! Ferret got attacked with the figure of the assassin in the write up, edse claimed doctor, got attacked while protecting somebody else, no assassin in the write up. I'm claiming doctor and the existence of only one other doctor, not attacked.
So to those in doubt, one of the self claimed doctors is lying, my bet keeps being edse. Pick one of the three doctors, do you want to clear me first, go ahead lynch me and then you will be sure I was telling the truth and work with that in mind!
I won't vote myself but any vote on me is a good call, the same with any other vote on edse!
Vote: edse
Vote Tally:
Riedquat: 3 (Ferret, Ishmael, Darth Feather post #162)
Ishmael: 1 (edse)
Darth Feather: 1 (autolycus)
edse: 1 (Riedquat)
Time Remaining:
Darth Feather
11-04-2013, 15:44
Ok, I'll call your claim: Vote: Riedquat Let's burn him. If he burns he is completely innocent. If however he is a servant of the devil, he will survive and be beheaded.
Riedquat
11-04-2013, 16:46
Ok, I'll call your claim: Vote: Riedquat Let's burn him. If he burns he is completely innocent. If however he is a servant of the devil, he will survive and be beheaded.
Eww... make me a favour and shoot me first!
Please, enlighten me, how is possible the killer could find DF useful? And how my reveal of only two doctors don't affect you in the minimum, those finding this revelation odd have expressed their suspicion against me, but you chose to go after Ishmael, instead of me or DF.
Two doctors people, not three! And that is the only thing I know for sure! Ferret got attacked with the figure of the assassin in the write up, edse claimed doctor, got attacked while protecting somebody else, no assassin in the write up. I'm claiming doctor and the existence of only one other doctor, not attacked.
So to those in doubt, one of the self claimed doctors is lying, my bet keeps being edse. Pick one of the three doctors, do you want to clear me first, go ahead lynch me and then you will be sure I was telling the truth and work with that in mind!
I won't vote myself but any vote on me is a good call, the same with any other vote on edse!
Vote: edse
Does your pm state:
1. You know of one other doctor
2. You know of only one other doctor
3. There is one other doctor
Or
4. There is only one other doctor?
You have simply misinterpreted your role pm.
Riedquat
11-04-2013, 18:55
Only me knows of the existence of other with same ability as mine.
How can I misinterpret that? I'm paraphrasing of course, but there is no much error margin. Next time I'll request my role pm in spanish!
Riedquat
11-04-2013, 19:27
Only me knows of the existence of other with same ability as mine.
How can I misinterpret that? I'm paraphrasing of course, but there is no much error margin. Next time I'll request my role pm in spanish!
You are awesome!
Thanks! Just for curiosity how exactly do you protect your targets Edse?
Only me knows of the existence of other with same ability as mine.
How can I misinterpret that? I'm paraphrasing of course, but there is no much error margin. Next time I'll request my role pm in spanish!
1. You (and only you) know there exists one other doctor.
This doesn't mean there can't be doctors you don't know of.
"There is one chair in my room, how many chairs are there in my room?"
At least one
I'm a veteran. I was a friend of Areos and fought many battles together with him so I have some skills.
Darth Feather
11-04-2013, 20:52
1. You (and only you) know there exists one other doctor.
This doesn't mean there can't be doctors you don't know of.
"There is one chair in my room, how many chairs are there in my room?"
At least one
I'm a veteran. I was a friend of Areos and fought many battles together with him so I have some skills.
That may be the solution. Edse is not a doctor but a protector/bodyguard. Effects are the same but different name. So it is not a question of wether riedquat or edse is lying. They may well be telling the truth both. So that's why unvote; vote; Ishmael to go with my first hunch.
Riedquat
11-04-2013, 21:03
Do you think I will be pursuing my own clearance by lynching if there is a reasonable doubt about this? There is no doubt, also 3 doctors in a game this size?
Riedquat
11-04-2013, 21:11
That may be the solution. Edse is not a doctor but a protector/bodyguard. Effects are the same but different name. So it is not a question of wether riedquat or edse is lying. They may well be telling the truth both. So that's why unvote; vote; Ishmael to go with my first hunch.
I'm not a doctor in medicine myself DF, I can protect a single target every night using my influence! Doh! In game terms a doctor... We're tied again? Gah!!!!
Darth Feather
11-04-2013, 21:14
We're tied again? Gah!!!!
ok, if you insist. Unvote; vote: Riedquat
Confusing...
Keep it coming! :2thumbsup:
I find myself enthusiastically agreeing with everything Riedquat says, but wanting to lynch him anyway since he's the only doctor that's not mostly cleared by the write-ups. The attack on edse is still niggling at me as being a little too convenient, but for now I'm Occam's Razoring it and assuming the named victim and protector are what they seem.
Day Phase 5 Write-up
Ryan Cavanaugh (Riedquat) sat by an old chalk board with scribbles all over it as he ate an apple, pondering over the markings. Somebody, at some point, found it necessary to write this down. They had the time to sit back and enjoy leisure writing and contemplating instead of fighting for their lives. "Heh, must be nice..." He said to himself.
A crowd of men burst into his presence, grabbing him by the arms and dragging him out of his thoughts. The apple fled from his fingers as he was forced away, a soft thud not heard over the scrambling of men attempting to apprehend their chosen suspect.
"What have I done? What crime??" Ryan yelled as he was basically carried to the presence of the masses. Cameron awaited their arrival as Ryan was deposited at his feet.
"Uncle! There's got to be some misunderstanding! I'm a Mobilian, been here all my life, with all of you!" He looked around the crowd, tears in his eyes. "What have I done to cause you to doubt me?"
He met stoic faces of the men and women who had chosen him to lose his life. He saw the eyes of his accusers, attempted to communicate but was not heard. They had made their decision.
"You're not going to find peace in this decision... another one of us will be attacked tonight! Please, let me help you find him!" Ryan begged, pleaded, but his people had turned on him.
Johan pulled out his pistol and put it between Ryan's eyes, "I'm sorry my friend..." He pulled the trigger, sending Ryan's body flailing backwards and crashing onto the hard floor.
No one gasped, no one wept, but only one man smiled, and he has yet to be identified...
Explanation:
Lynch - Ryan Cavanaugh (Riedquat)
Night Phase 5 has started and will end tomorrow, Tuesday, at 9:00PM (GMT -6)
Those of you with nighttime abilities, please PM me ASAP.
Time Remaining:
Night Phase 5 Write-up
The slumber of the crowd was harmonic, some snoring people, others just breathing rhythmically. The room was dark, and the watch lazy.
Johan Battle (Darth Feather) slept peacefully, his dreams were of home before he knew of any war. His mother hanging laundry on the line, his brothers and sisters running and playing, picking on him for being the youngest. His father returning from his work in the mines and getting bombarded by tiny hands as they attempted to take him down.
He smiled in his sleep.
Laying on his side, the big man never saw or was aware of his impending doom. A knife quickly entered the thin space between his skull and his spine, severing his spinal chord. His breath ceased to exist within seconds, and his assailant whispered in his lifeless ears, "My name is Hayden Matthews, Captain Johan, but you know me as a different name... see you in Hell."
That next morning what was left of Mobile's elite found the military captain dead on his cot, the pleasant smile of home still on his face.
Explanation:
Kill - Cpt. Johan Battle (Darth Feather)
Day Phase 6 begins now and will end Wednesday, at 9:00PM (GMT -6)
Time Remaining:
Living Players (5/9)
Ishmael
edse
autolycus
Ferret
Dead Players (5/9)
Ibn-Khaldun - D2 (Seth Lanson)
Askthepizzaguy - N2 (Manuel Foster)
Double A - D3 (Lincoln Harvey)
Riedquat - D5 (Ryan Cavanaugh)
Darth Feather - N5 (Johan Battle)
Existing Roles: (Randomized - Still Living)
Ripley Tasker
Aaron Anduin
Michael Engels
Logan Adair
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Dead players, feel free to post in thread! The living players need all the help they can get...
edit:
And here is the list of ALL players in order of their activity (number of posts)
Riedquat: 33
Darth Feather: 18
edse: 16
Askthepizzaguy: 15
Ishmael: 14
autolycus: 12
Ferret: 9
Ibn-Khaldun: 9
Double A: 7
Riedquat
11-05-2013, 14:18
What are you going to do town? Its about time to get things right, I wasn't lying and now confirmed townie. Who is your next suspect, DF? He has been killed! Now what?
Edit: I made 33 posts? :( This is so wrong, I passed from be a hidden lurker to a kind of troll... or kind troll? :shame:
This is curious, Ferret has the same posts than IK? :inquisitive: Why are you flying so low Ripley?
:shrug: I'm always quiet. Plus I was away for all of last week.
Not sure why I wasn't given the option to revive Darth Feather, but I guess it's too late now.
So given both myself and edse have survived attacks then it has to be either Ishmael or autolycus.
Given myself and edse also both have protection abilities then surely the town has won? If we get it wrong today then we can both just protect ourselves tonight and then lynch the other survivor tomorrow. Unless they're both scum...
So, Ishmael, autolycus, why shouldn't I vote for you?
The town has won unless there are some final surprises.
Vote: Ishmael
autolycus
11-05-2013, 15:38
As I said yesterday, assuming the scum didn't attack himself, vote:Ishmael is the clear choice.
Okay then, vote: Ishmael, just to be sure there isn't a tie.
Let me remind all of you of something...
There are only 4 players remaining. 1 of you is a mafia :lipsrsealed2:
IF: Townie lynch takes place, mafia is left with only 2 townies.
- Kill is successful, 1 mafia, 1 townie. MAFIA VICTORY.
- Kill is unsuccessful, 1 mafia, 2 townies. 50/50 chance either way.
THIS VOTE IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!
That is all ~:smoking:
Riedquat
11-05-2013, 16:08
:shrug: I'm always quiet. Plus I was away for all of last week.
Not sure why I wasn't given the option to revive Darth Feather, but I guess it's too late now.
So given both myself and edse have survived attacks then it has to be either Ishmael or autolycus.
Given myself and edse also both have protection abilities then surely the town has won? If we get it wrong today then we can both just protect ourselves tonight and then lynch the other survivor tomorrow. Unless they're both scum...
So, Ishmael, autolycus, why shouldn't I vote for you?
The town has won unless there are some final surprises.
Vote: Ishmael
As I said yesterday, assuming the scum didn't attack himself, vote:Ishmael is the clear choice.
:wall: This makes me a sad suicide you know?
For some odd reason I believe Ishmael is town, partly gut feeling and partly his last post before my lynching, that was pure reflex of a townie thought...
3 doctors and a scanner? 4 town power roles in a game this size? Are you crazy? I keep saying what I said, 2 doctors, not three not four, two! One of you is lying or both are... Ferret got attacked and protected himself, edse got attacked and saved by Ferret... both have nice alibis and I went down for nothing...
Riedquat
11-05-2013, 16:12
Let me remind all of you of something...
There are only 4 players remaining. 1 of you is a mafia :lipsrsealed2:
IF: Townie lynch takes place, mafia is left with only 2 townies.
- Kill is successful, 1 mafia, 1 townie. MAFIA VICTORY.
- Kill is unsuccessful, 1 mafia, 2 townies. 50/50 chance either way.
THIS VOTE IS VERY IMPORTANT!!!
That is all ~:smoking:
1 of them being mafia perhaps means at least 1, perhaps they are 3 or 4... its open to interpretation, no?
NO!! it is 1 and it is LYLO!!
Well then how do you explain what happened? The host has just stated that there is only one mafia player. Edse would have been insane to attack himself and somehow hope that somebody had a revive ability, and would use that ability. And how could I have attacked myself and protected myself in the same phase?
It has to be either Ishmael or autolycus, unless something utterly crazy has been going on behind the scenes.
"Special Abilities:
1. For the first day phase you may choose to nullify the votes and deny the people the lynching, of course your true identity will stay hidden.
2. For ALL night phases, IF there is mafia, you have the power to save one player’s life a night using your influence. This ability is limited to one person at a time; therefore, if you choose to save someone else, then you are vulnerable. (Note: You and only you knows there is someone else that has this same ability)"
This is the excerpt from Riedquat's role PM.
edit:
Further, in my own wording, "someone else" could mean 1 other person, or more than 1 other person. This reveals nothing, I just wanted it to be clear that my intention was simply to tell Riedquat that he wasn't the only power townie.
In fact, everyone could have been.
Riedquat
11-05-2013, 16:57
This is the excerpt from Riedquat's role PM.
edit:
Further, in my own wording, "someone else" could mean 1 other person, or more than 1 other person. This reveals nothing, I just wanted it to be clear that my intention was simply to tell Riedquat that he wasn't the only power townie.
In fact, everyone could have been.
Oh... GAAAAH!! I'm angered! And dead, and angered... and dead angered! Gah!
Then is Edtolmael!! And please can somebody be kind enough to spit in my grave? I'm thirsty down here...
Darth Feather
11-05-2013, 17:00
Oh... GAAAAH!! I'm angered! And dead, and angered... and dead angered! Gah!
Then is Edtolmael!! And please can somebody be kind enough to spit in my grave? I'm thirsty down here...
*Battle's ghost starts spitting in riedquats grave*
autolycus
11-05-2013, 17:21
For some reason, I had DF confused in my mind. The question, then, is was DF's scan flawed, or did edse attack himself, or is this not a traditional game, as zombies has hinted. For now, I think door number two is the best fit. unvote, vote: edse
Ferret, you say you didn't get the option to save DF. Does that mean that with edse you were told he was attacked?
With (at least) three doctors able to selfprotect it would only make sense that the scanner is naive.
Riedquat
11-05-2013, 18:31
Well then how do you explain what happened? The host has just stated that there is only one mafia player. Edse would have been insane to attack himself and somehow hope that somebody had a revive ability, and would use that ability. And how could I have attacked myself and protected myself in the same phase?
I'm the only one who asked the host if I could attack myself while mafia? :inquisitive:
Riedquat
11-05-2013, 18:50
For some reason, I had DF confused in my mind. The question, then, is was DF's scan flawed, or did edse attack himself, or is this not a traditional game, as zombies has hinted. For now, I think door number two is the best fit. unvote, vote: edse
Ferret, you say you didn't get the option to save DF. Does that mean that with edse you were told he was attacked?
Remember that phase? It was a little longer because the host where awaiting Ferret order, Ferret claimed to protect himself and not edse, so there is the explanation I think.
I would like to know, not only from the living, why Ishmael is the best candidate... for the info in this thread I can't reach same conclusion... What I'm missing?
autolycus
11-05-2013, 20:02
Ferret, can you talk more about your powers? Do you know why you got to save edse and not any of the other victims?
Darth Feather
11-05-2013, 20:14
Ferret, can you talk more about your powers? Do you know why you got to save edse and not any of the other victims?
That's a good question. Maybe edse knew of his power and he hoped Ferret would save him, knowing that would give him innumity.
(Man I am wondering about this game, great job Zain. )
Ferret, can you talk more about your powers? Do you know why you got to save edse and not any of the other victims?
Ferret said that he could have saved Pizza as well.
Yes, normally I am told who is attacked and whether I wish to revive him. In addition to saving edse I also could have saved ATPG but was away and missed the deadline (sorry meat bag).
Apparently Zain felt the game was too weighted in the favour of the town so now I can only use either my protect or revive ability, rather than both. So that is why I was unable to save Darth Feather.
Don't worry Riedquat, if edse really is a townie protector (and I don't see how he couldn't be a townie, or why he'd lie about his ability) the the town has won. Either Ishmael is scum and we win today, or autolycus is scum and we win tomorrow.
Although it is very worrying that both autolycus and Ishmael showed up as innocent according to Darth Feather...
Absolutely loving this game and all the drama/confusion along with it. I thank the players. :bow:
I have opened up the sign-ups for Pratia 3 (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?146077-Pratia-III), the story can continue regardless of the results here so sign-up for the finale!
Link will be in my sig shortly, or you can use the one in this post!
Riedquat
11-05-2013, 21:20
Don't worry Riedquat, if edse really is a townie protector (and I don't see how he couldn't be a townie, or why he'd lie about his ability) the the town has won. Either Ishmael is scum and we win today, or autolycus is scum and we win tomorrow.
Good luck trying to do that! Edse VC is to save autolycus, remember?
I'd love to say that I have a clear and unambiguous reason as to why somebody is scum, but the fact is I am just as confused as the rest of you. Edse I would normally not even suspect due to the kill attempt on him, but he just seemed so darn scummy before that. Still, I'll stick to my principle of simplicity here, and assume there's not some crazy mechanic going on here that would allow edse to know Ferret would revive him (after all, the mechanics of this weren't made clear by Ferret until after the attack on edse).
autolycus' chief point in his favour is that he was cleared by DF's scan, with the secondary benefit that he doesn't seem particularly scummy to me. The possibility has been raised that DF was a naive scanner, but again it seems more plausible in a 9 player game that we have two townie doctors and a real scanner, rather than three townie doctors and a fake scanner.
Which leads on to Ferret. Ferret's primary point in his favour is that he revived edse. However, it occurs to me that scum Ferret would explain the strange choice of kill target - kill somebody and revive them yourself, thus 'confirming' your power and seeming very townie.
...and I was very attached to this theory until I re-read the N3 write-up, when Ripley (that is, Ferret) protected himself against what was clearly a different individual. Well, if Ferret's out and edse's out,
vote: autolycus
As for why you should vote for autolycus and not me...well, as Ferret observes, it probably shouldn't matter, provided he and edse are able to protect themselves (and I'm not horribly wrong about all this). We basically have the same points in our for and against ('cleared' by DF, only remaining vanilla townies), so I can't well blame anybody for their decision either way.
Gah, now looking over the last page, autolycus' vote for edse does not seem at all like a scum move. My head hurts....
EDIT: Okay, just to clarify unambiguously - Ferret, to the best of your knowledge was there any way edse could have known that you were going to revive him if he were killed? Was there any out of thread communication between you?
Riedquat
11-05-2013, 23:41
Gah, now looking over the last page, autolycus' vote for edse does not seem at all like a scum move. My head hurts....
EDIT: Okay, just to clarify unambiguously - Ferret, to the best of your knowledge was there any way edse could have known that you were going to revive him if he were killed? Was there any out of thread communication between you?
As fas as I know private communications weren't allowed. But... perhaps I got that wrong too! :P
Edit: But.. what is the point of knowing it before?
"Hey Ferret, I think I'm going to be attacked but instead of protecting myself I will protect somebody else, could you revive me?" :dizzy2:
As fas as I know private communications weren't allowed. But... perhaps I got that wrong too! :P
Private communication among players isn't allowed, although there's no way to police it...
No there was not, even if there had been there's no way I would have told him anything, I was one of the people pushing for his lynch after all. I was careful to keep it quiet until I'd used it so unless it was mentioned in his role PM I don't see how he could have known about it. Even if he did know about it, then he'd have known I didn't use it on ATPG previously, so it'd be one hell of a gamble. Given how unanimous the vote was the day before though I suppose it may have been his only way out.
If he is scum then he probably deserves to win for having the balls to pull off a move like that.
I am a little tempted switch my vote to him now, the fact that he wasn't protecting himself that night has been really bugging me. We haven't actually seen any proof that he has a protection ability.
Here is the vote tally and the timer:
Ishmael: 2 (edse, Ferret)
edse: 1 (autolycus)
autolycus: 1 (Ishmael)
Time Remaining:
There's still a whole lot of confusion, and this voting phase is the last one you all will probably get. Get your thoughts out, analyze each other, find the scum and be sure about it! You don't want to regret your decision...
Riedquat
11-06-2013, 15:06
:rolleyes:
1.- We should attempt to lynch Zain! He is playing with our fragile minds!!
2.- If you get this wrong there isn't a second chance!
3.- This is so freaking confusing because we are looking it from the wrong angle, is the individual you less suspect of!
Why there wasn't a kill on night 1?
Who said he was away?
8 players game with a scanner and at least 3 doctors, one of the doctors also can revive the attacked person... With 2 doctors and a scanner, town is overpowered but with one scum super op, it compensate! So how can be the scum super op?
The scanner was Johan Battle, a Captain, not a moronic civilian, also, why to kill the scanner if his results weren't accurate? Who was going to be scanned next, I got lynched and Ishmael and auto already were scanned.
Go to the write up, when Ferret got attacked, eh.. or visited, because there wasn't any attack. Ferret is a doctor in medicine, not a protector or bodyguard, not a person of influence. He said the assassin was there, the write up reflected what he experienced or what he said he experienced.
Heck! Stop looking at the people DF scanned! It is edse or Ferret and I think the information to get this right is out there, now go and find it!
Riedquat
11-06-2013, 15:18
Apparently Zain felt the game was too weighted in the favour of the town so now I can only use either my protect or revive ability, rather than both. So that is why I was unable to save Darth Feather.
:stare: This game has been polished till the last corner, is a piece of art.. and you are telling me he didn't weighted the impact of the roles from before?
Conveniently enough, you only can protect yourself and don't revive anyone else any more....
Ghostly Arms of Suspicion: Ferret the butcher!
:stare: This game has been polished till the last corner, is a piece of art.. [/B]
:nice:
You know, Riedquat's right. As per my post from before, the only thing preventing me from voting Ferret was that the write-up cleared him, but given the host has all but admitted to deliberately messing with our heads that's a pretty flimsy shield. And I've had a nagging itch for a while now that something is not right about him.
unvote, vote: Ferret
:stare: This game has been polished till the last corner, is a piece of art.. and you are telling me he didn't weighted the impact of the roles from before?
Conveniently enough, you only can protect yourself and don't revive anyone else any more....
I was surprised as you are, I wasn't even told until after the write up had been posted. I'm sure Zain will be happy to back me up here.
I can protect other people but why would I? Up until now I thought I'd be able to revive anyone who had been killed, so there hasn't been a need to protect anyone else.
Lynch me and the town will 100% lose. Don't lynch me and the town will surely win, it's a simple choice.
And how is being attacked a flimsy shield? Even if a mafia players was allowed to attack himself then surely he would also die. Are you seriously suggesting that I persuaded the host the post a write up with a completely fabricated attack on myself? Or do you think I both attacked and protected myself in the same phase?
AND I REVIVED EDSE!? WHY WOULD A MAFIA PLAYER REVIVE A TOWNIE, OR EVEN HAVE A REVIVE ABILITY IN THE FIRST PLACE? Don't forget that this game only has one scum player.
Use your heads people.
OR EVEN HAVE A REVIVE ABILITY IN THE FIRST PLACE?
Why would anyone have a revive ability? It sounds very OP if you from the beginning were able to prevent every nightkill.
Yes and that's why it has been somewhat nerfed.
The fact that I do have this ability is not in question though, if I didn't, you'd be dead.
But I cannot understand how anyone could think I could have this ability and still be scum. What kind of mafia player would revive their own kill target? What kind of host would give a lone mafia player the ability to revive townies? That just doesn't make any sense.
Is this how desperate you are Ishmael?
What kind of host would give a lone mafia player the ability to revive townies?
Zain. :laugh4:
Riedquat
11-06-2013, 16:47
Yes and that's why it has been somewhat nerfed.
The fact that I do have this ability is not in question though, if I didn't, you'd be dead.
But I cannot understand how anyone could think I could have this ability and still be scum. What kind of mafia player would revive their own kill target? What kind of host would give a lone mafia player the ability to revive townies? That just doesn't make any sense.
Is this how desperate you are Ishmael?
Perhaps he is, he knows if lynched town will lose. After all he is sure he isn't the killer. Ishmael, if you are not sure, please tell us!
Ask yourself this, if you were mafia, would you be able to cause this confusion if you didn't revive your own victim? :P
What makes sense in this game? A nerfed scanner or a super doctor? First Pratia game was 6, six years ago! Can you say this is a rushed game, made from nothing in a few hours?
Reality check:
IF the mafioso survives the lynch, 3 players remain.
IF the power townie who claims to have protection or revival abilities also survives, and the mafia's kill tonight is unsuccessful, the mafia will be left with two other people to contend to next day phase.
Here are the possibilities:
1. Mafia is lynched today; Townie Victory
2. Townie is lynched today; Mafia attack is blocked or unsuccessful; Mafia lynched tomorrow; Townie Victory
3. Townie is lynched today; Mafia attack is blocked or unsuccessful; Any Townie lynched tomorrow; Mafia Victory
4. Townie is lynched today; Mafia attack is successful; Mafia Victory
5. Power Townie is lynched today; Mafia attack will be successful; Mafia Victory
Here is the updated vote tally and the timer again:
Ferret: 2 (Ishmael, edse from post #217)
Ishmael: 1 (Ferret)
edse: 1 (autolycus)
Time Remaining:
Get it together people! :juggle:
Darth Feather
11-06-2013, 19:40
Reality check:
IF the mafioso survives the lynch, 3 players remain.
IF the power townie who claims to have protection or revival abilities also survives, and the mafia's kill tonight is unsuccessful, the mafia will be left with two other people to contend to next day phase.
Here are the possibilities:
1. Mafia is lynched today; Townie Victory
2. Townie is lynched today; Mafia attack is blocked or unsuccessful; Mafia lynched tomorrow; Townie Victory
3. Townie is lynched today; Mafia attack is blocked or unsuccessful; Any Townie lynched tomorrow; Mafia Victory
4. Townie is lynched today; Mafia attack is successful; Mafia Victory
5. Power Townie is lynched today; Mafia attack will be successful; Mafia Victory
Get it together people! :juggle:
You just love scaring people don't you :eeeek:
You just love scaring people don't you :eeeek:
Haha, yehh
It has to be Ferret. The "reviving" ability is just to twist our heads around.
unvote: vote: Ferret
Riedquat
11-07-2013, 01:40
It has to be Ferret. The "reviving" ability is just to twist our heads around.
unvote: vote: Ferret
:laugh4: I don't know what to think any more but this makes me laugh, hard!
This is absurd.
Never before have I seen the town spurn a guaranteed win to instead lynch its best asset.
Riedquat
11-07-2013, 13:33
This is absurd.
Nobody can argue with that.
I apologize for the delay (10 hours :laugh4:) Real life got in the way of doing the write-up last night. I'm on it! :stupido:
Day/Night Phase 6 Write-ups
The kind gray eyes of Ripley Tasker (Ferret) watched on as the people surged in an uproar. His left eyebrow contained a rather large scar from his childhood, an event he had no recollection of.
His name began to become more and more prevalent, eventually being chanted by the crowd. Cameron Cavanaugh gave the sign and the able-bodied started the search for their convicted. The hunt did not take long, for Ripley did not fight against them. They brought the gray bearded man to his knees next to Cameron, in the center of the entire Mobilian population. With 205 people shouting his name, and being stared down by their empowered leader, Ripley almost felt celebrated although the attention terrorized him.
Set on his knees, hands bounds, Ripley awaited the end peacefully. His years had been long and full...
"Silence!" Cameron commanded of his people. They slowly came to a quiet stillness, watching the two men. Cameron glared down at Ripley, never breaking the connection. "You have been accused of murder, your punishment is death!"
Ripley did not cry, he did not struggle, and he simply closed his eyes. Without much delay a bullet was sent through his skull, and his death was swift.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
After nightfall the remaining 206 Mobilian citizens and soldiers alike slept, but not in the same fashion. They were uneasy, expecting to hear a scream and to see bloodshed. Yes, they had executed their prime subject, but this was the fourth time they have gone through with a supposed "successful trial". Quite frankly, they were losing faith in their system.
Logan Adair (Ishmael), one of the last true soldiers remaining of the Mobilian military, lay awake staring into the blackness of the old ceiling above him. His hands were behind his head, elbows out, legs crossed, you wouldn't think this man even knew about the recent murders.
His reality began to slip, random thoughts coming more powerfully, his eyes growing heavier. He had decided he wanted to lay awake but appear asleep until something happened, hopefully nothing.
A disciplined soldier, he held on for a very long time and right before the dawn he fell asleep.
Right before the dawn, a knife entered his neck. He woke up for the last remaining seconds of his life, eyes wide, gasping silently for breath as his lungs filled with blood. His murderer whispered in his ear, "Pratia's upon you with the sunrise and you will all perish. No Mobilian will be allowed refuge. See you in Hell."
Then Logan died, asphyxiated by his own blood from a well-placed wound set by a Prater spy, Hayden Matthews.
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
Hayden Matthews (edse) stood over Aaron Anduin (autolycus) as he slept. Bloodlust grew evermore in the man's heart as he stared down at the only remaining descendant of Areos Anduin. Aaron was not on the list provided to him by his superiors, he had no real reason to kill him, but this man's vendetta for the eradication of the Mobilian people was shallow by comparison to his desire to wipe out the Anduin name.
He stooped down over the boy, contemplating the cruelest way he could kill him quietly. After deciding a hand over his mouth and a knife through the eye would suffice, he noticed a small stream of light creeping up towards them. He looked at the wall and noticed a small crack and the hint of the sunrise.
His orders were to eliminate the “potential threats” and hand the rest over to the army on the seventh morning. He looked back at Aaron, sleeping peacefully, knowing full well that if he didn’t leave now he could get caught in the crossfire. Anger rose, he did not get the chance he wanted. He wanted to watch Aaron die, torture him, feel his agony and bask in it. The man bent down and whispered in the boy’s ear, “You will suffer. I promise. My brothers are here.”
Pratia was upon Mobile once again, initiated by an explosion sending the large steel doors of the outpost flying. The massacre had begun…
Explanation:
Lynch - Ripley Tasker (Ferret)
Kill - Logan Adair (Ishmael)
Survived - Aaron Anduin (autolycus)
Mafia - Hayden Matthews aka Michael Engels (edse)
(Game Over: Complete Mafia Victory)
The story is not over, find out what happens here (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?146077-Pratia-III) at Pratia III. Be part of the final effort to rescue to Mobilian race from their brutal destiny.
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This game was full of twists and turns! I am open to questions and I'm sure edse wouldn't mind answering them as well.
Also by request I can do a full in-depth synopsis of this game and what exactly happened to clear up any confusion about how what just happened, actually happened.
Good job everybody! Especially you edse, spectacular job! I really enjoyed hosting this game.
Riedquat
11-07-2013, 15:41
So edse attacked himself, didn't he? He wasn't a doctor... :shame:
Amazing playing edse, the no kill on N1 was intentional?
I apologize for Ferret's lynching, but it seems the plan wasn't going to work anyway, just spend other day to lynch autolycus with the same ending I guess.
Amazing game Zain, now I'm impatient for the other to begin! :bow:
Darth Feather
11-07-2013, 18:28
:wall: Stupid, stupid, stupid. Why didn't I trust my scan?
Anyway, great game. It has been the most enthrilling I have played in a while. Well done edse. Thanks for hosting Zain
Was certainly an interesting game, thanks for hosting Zain.
(Would have been nice if my role didn't change half way through though :clown:)
edse I just don't even. Did you somehow know I had a revive ability or were you just resigned to defeat and preferred to go out by your own hand? This was certainly the first time I've seen a mafia player attack themselves.
Thanks for hosting Zain! And of course well done edse, for inducing massive levels of confusion with your self-attack. Though as with the others, I wouldn't mind hearing your thought processes there :beam:.
autolycus
11-08-2013, 04:49
Well played, indeed, edse. I'm kicking myself now for not pressing harder on this last day, because I was pretty darn sure it was you.
So edse attacked himself, didn't he? He wasn't a doctor... :shame:
Amazing playing edse, the no kill on N1 was intentional?
Yes, it was intentional. Mostly too see if any blocker would reveal himself but also too use as argument later (I would never miss a whole night phase but someone else might). I was going to do a no kill night 2 as well to be sure but I was informed about the amount of power roles so I decided to kill.
Was certainly an interesting game, thanks for hosting Zain.
(Would have been nice if my role didn't change half way through though :clown:)
edse I just don't even. Did you somehow know I had a revive ability or were you just resigned to defeat and preferred to go out by your own hand? This was certainly the first time I've seen a mafia player attack themselves.
I was told on night 2 that there were 3 protectors (That's tres protectores Riedquat) that could self-protect and one reviver (and one scanner but I forgot about that). I couldn't do a failed on myself so I had to trust I would be saved and there wasn't really anything else I could do after day 4. A failed attack on me would have been needed for me to possibly win the game any way and I'm really glad Riedquat sacrificed himself because with two selfprotectors it would have been impossible. (Was Double A the third?). I also didn't have a cover role from the beginning, Michael Engels appeared in the write-ups first after I had claimed the name. I wish I'd done it earlier. (The name was kind of a joke though, Michael the Archangel..., don't know where I got that from.)
Well played, indeed, edse. I'm kicking myself now for not pressing harder on this last day, because I was pretty darn sure it was you.
Yes Aaron, I saw that and I was really afraid my late vote switch to Ferret would get me lynched but I guess it was too late. Aaron was actually mentioned in my role pm as someone I would try to kill but I let you survive the last night.
Riedquat
11-08-2013, 13:36
Tres protectores! :laugh4: Who was the other one Zain?
Thank you all for playing!
Ibn-Khaldun - Being first to be lynched is always a bummer, especially when you're literally just a vanilla townie, but by reading through your posts I can see you truly are a strategic player. Thank you for joining us! It would do my heart some good if you and every other player of Pratia 2 joined me in Pratia 3. There's no doubt going to be strategy, especially in the beginning! Sorry, can't tell you yet. ~;)
Askthepizzaguy - Being the first to be murdered by the mafioso is very frustrating, but it's also a great indication that people find you to be a threat! Thank you for joining up despite your current workload with Resident Evil 2, I understand why you won't be joining us in Pratia 3, but I'll see you on the battlefield.
Double A - Lincoln Harvey, vanilla townie... you gunned for autolycus the entire game and ultimately your inattentiveness due to a busy lifestyle got the best of you. Can't fault you for doing something ELSE with your life! I do have to admit though, he was acting pretty scummy! Haven't heard from you since your lynch, hope to see you in P3.
Riedquat - Ryan Cavanaugh himself! Your activity in thread is delightful, I would even reason to argue that you seemed to care more about the fate of the town after you died than anyone else living! Choosing to stop the first lynch was a favorable move and it excites me to know that an individual of your energy will be with us in P3. :2thumbsup:
Darth Feather - Captain Johan Battle, my friend I wish I could've bent the rules with you, because like Riedquat your enthusiasm warms my heart :heart: but sadly you didn't believe in your own abilities as a 100% investigator (as made clear by your Role PM) and for that the town suffered... But never fear! You played well and in P3 I guarantee we'll all see the same greatness from you.
Ferret - Fighting through being out of town for an entire week, Ripley Tasker survived, and I am grateful to you for that. Ripley's name came from a random name generator, and after previously discarding it, the name stuck with me and an older Gandalf looking face appeared. You did well with your power role, I am very sorry I wasn't consistent with you. I have carefully evaluated the progress of this game and will keep better care of balancing P3. Your presence, my friend, will honor us there.
Ishmael - The unlikely survivor until the final day! People literally gunned for you the entire time, but you kept your cool and survived. I raise you up as a player who should have been a survivor of the game along with autolycus, but sadly someone had to go and your name was drawn... It's exciting to see what odds you can beat in P3!
autolycus - Aaron Anduin, the only townie to be featured in the sequel. You were gunned for the entire game, but just like Ishmael you survived. Your name was called for victory! Your posts all had purpose, and although we were not graced with very many, they all seemed to impact the game with sound logic and a decision. Very noble.
edse - My mafioso, Hayden Matthews aka Michael Engels! Your play in this game was remarkable and I could not have asked for a better performance! To choose a no kill on Night 1 simply for confusion purposes, to attempt suicide on yourself for strategy, literally making up the name and the false role of protecting Areos' son. I bow to you sir :bow: It would destroy me if you chose to abstain from attendance in the finale, I have grown to respect your play. I hope you choose to participate, and more of your greatness may be displayed!
Hopefully you all know me pretty well now as a host, I would love some comments and complaints so as to fine tune your experience. I do this because I love to write, to allow my imagination free reign, and you all help me with that. You are the catalyst that sets this train in motion, and to see the final product in the Pratia - Information Summary and see all that's happened is very entertaining :2thumbsup:
Once again, well done everybody, Pratia 3 will be guaranteed to keep you on your toes.
If you choose to, this spoiler contains how the beginning of the game will work. Feel free to observe, unless you would rather be surprised. :bow:
The first phase, 24-48 hours will be a selection of a liaison for the Mobilian survivors. Directly after that you will be asked a series of questions in thread, discussion amongst the individuals will be pertinent, and a response via pm will be expected after an allotted period of time. This is the mechanic, the story will not be disclosed as of yet.
NO VANILLA TOWNIES :2thumbsup:
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Tres protectores! :laugh4: Who was the other one Zain?
Riedquat my friend, you deserve to have this crystal clear for you, I'm sorry my wording was tricky. But... that's how I do things.
1. Yourself - Ryan Cavanaugh, protector through influence as the leader.
2. Darth Feather - Cpt. Johan Battle, protector through military power and authority. Also a scanner (100%)
3. Ferret - Ripley Tasker, protector by abilities accumulated through the drifter lifestyle. Also a healer until later in the game.
Darth Feather
11-08-2013, 15:16
You specifically stated: IF there is a mafia in this game. So due to the attack on edse I figured there was not a mafia but some Serial Killer or something.
Also I did say I couldn't protect anyone, but it was out of self-defense (to give the scum no info they didn't need)
If I would have disclosed later on, Riedquat would probably have pursued me and Ferret (due to role PM)
Thank you all for playing!
Ishmael - The unlikely survivor until the final day! People literally gunned for you the entire time, but you kept your cool and survived. I raise you up as a player who should have been a survivor of the game along with autolycus, but sadly someone had to go and your name was drawn... It's exciting to see what odds you can beat in P3!
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Hopefully you all know me pretty well now as a host, I would love some comments and complaints so as to fine tune your experience. I do this because I love to write, to allow my imagination free reign, and you all help me with that. You are the catalyst that sets this train in motion, and to see the final product in the Pratia - Information Summary and see all that's happened is very entertaining :2thumbsup:
Once again, well done everybody, Pratia 3 will be guaranteed to keep you on your toes.
Thank you kindly Zain. You hosted an excellent game, I liked the write-ups, and I can say I am eagerly awaiting the third installment. If you'd told me the set-up off the bat I would have been sceptical as to the mafioso's chances, but edse's brilliant gambit(s) paid off. Well played edse; that was quite possibly the best individual scum performance I've ever seen.
You specifically stated: IF there is a mafia in this game. So due to the attack on edse I figured there was not a mafia but some Serial Killer or something.
Also I did say I couldn't protect anyone, but it was out of self-defense (to give the scum no info they didn't need)
If I would have disclosed later on, Riedquat would probably have pursued me and Ferret (due to role PM)
Both points are well thought out, strategy is your strong point. I don't blame you for thinking the way you did about edse's suicide attempt, and I certainly don't blame you for hiding your protection abilities. Well thought out, well played :bow:
Thank you kindly Zain. You hosted an excellent game, I liked the write-ups, and I can say I am eagerly awaiting the third installment. If you'd told me the set-up off the bat I would have been sceptical as to the mafioso's chances, but edse's brilliant gambit(s) paid off. Well played edse; that was quite possibly the best individual scum performance I've ever seen.
Much obliged Sir Ishmael, I give the credit to the players and especially our scummy mafioso himself. The sequel/finale gets bigger every day. You'll see ~D
Ibn-Khaldun
11-08-2013, 19:29
This was one of the most confusing games I have ever played(but unfortunately it ended too soon for me). And this is a compliment. :2thumbsup:
Riedquat
11-09-2013, 01:52
Riedquat - Ryan Cavanaugh himself! Your activity in thread is delightful, I would even reason to argue that you seemed to care more about the fate of the town after you died than anyone else living! Choosing to stop the first lynch was a favorable move and it excites me to know that an individual of your energy will be with us in P3. :2thumbsup:
:bow: You honour me to much, I just hope to be up to the standard in the next game! And is not much my energy, just the free time I have in the office!
Riedquat my friend, you deserve to have this crystal clear for you, I'm sorry my wording was tricky. But... that's how I do things.
Ahh, I got that right! there were only dos doctores and edse wasn't one of them! :laugh4: I'm stubborn like an old mule sometimes... ehh, usually!
If I would have disclosed later on, Riedquat would probably have pursued me and Ferret (due to role PM)
:yes: You took the right decision!
This was one of the most confusing games I have ever played(but unfortunately it ended too soon for me). And this is a compliment. :2thumbsup:
Does this mean you'll be joining Pratia 3? ~D
Also, edse!! Waiting on you to join too bud!
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Ibn-Khaldun - Join my game, I'll join yours ~:pimp:
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