No Civil War

[Kamakazi]

So I just finished my Macedon Campaign and I did it without triggering a civil war... EVER..... Ive never done this before and I wasn't even aware it could be done. Has Anyone done this?

[Slaists]

did you cross into the last portion of the imperium bar? I mean, it is possible to win without triggering the CW if aiming for cultural/economic victory; even military is possible by nurturing many allies.

[Kamakazi]

yep I had the last imperium. and I got military victory btw

[Slaists]

yep I had the last imperium. and I got military victory btw

That's a new benchmark then.

I have not seen anyone reporting civil wars since patch 7 though. I, on my part, have not gotten to the last imperium bar in my games: my MPC is stalled due to a newly introduce desync and the SP campaigns I just restart constantly to experiment. But, alas, I have not seen anyone complaining about a vicious civil war since patch 7... Might be CW is bugged now? Or the CA removed it, LOL?

[Kamakazi]

the mechanic is still there I don't see why it wouldn't happen

[easytarget]

I for one would be happy to hear they tweaked it so it's possible to complete a campaign w/o civil war triggering. It would finally make politics worth paying attention to, right now I do it just because it's there to be done, not because it matters.

[Kamakazi]

well im gonna go back in and see if I can force the civil war to trigger

*edit* Well I dropped the balance of power to 0% and still no proc... Kinda cuts my feeling of accomplishment =/

[Myth]

My guess is that you started on one of the previous patches (pre new imperium). The changes the subsequent patches introduced made a jumble of your save file. Same as in the broken imperium Slaists is experiencing in our Athens succession game.

[Slaists]

My guess is that you started on one of the previous patches (pre new imperium). The changes the subsequent patches introduced made a jumble of your save file. Same as in the broken imperium Slaists is experiencing in our Athens succession game.
Myth, actually, as soon as I captured a couple regions, the Athenian imperium restrictions re-set to normal (the new one).

Kamakazi, could it be that you were lucky to cruise through the last couple imperium bars with no characters with 3 ambition?

[Kamakazi]

At that I couldn't say. I just started a new iceni campaign on VH and im going for the this is total war achievement.. Guess ill see if I get a civil war.

[Slaists]

At that I couldn't say. I just started a new iceni campaign on VH and im going for the this is total war achievement.. Guess ill see if I get a civil war.

I thought you are not allowed to lose any battles with "this is total war" achievement. Civil war is likely to take out at least one settlement (the one where it breaks out), which would count as a loss, hmm...

[Kamakazi]

This is Total War!
Win the game having declared war on every faction the turn you encountered them, as well as never negotiating a peace treaty.

[Slaists]

This is Total War!
Win the game having declared war on every faction the turn you encountered them, as well as never negotiating a peace treaty.

does subjugating count as a peace treaty?

[Kamakazi]

s far as I understand any kind of client state or other means does count as peace

[Slaists]

s far as I understand any kind of client state or other means does count as peace

haha, that's too bad. I had that achievement with Napoleon. played as Russia, but liberated all the way (a trade boost). In Napoleon it was possible: liberation did not count as a peace deal.

[Myth]

In Rome 2 I'd just start on the easiest difficulty as Rome and autoresolve my way to victory.

[Kamakazi]

Whats life without a challenge? If im going to get an achievement im going to earn it

[Myth]

If you want challenge you can do your own house rules to increase the difficulty. I personally don't care about achievements, but If I did, i'd go through the shortest and easiest way in getting them.

No one has reported much about Carthage and Epirus thus far, which are supposed to be the hardest factions out there. Well, I think Slaists tried Epirus a while back. I'm tempted to give them a go on the new patch to see how they perform.

[Slaists]

In Rome 2 I'd just start on the easiest difficulty as Rome and autoresolve my way to victory.

My understanding is that the total-war achievement in RTW 2 is awarded only for legendary difficulty ;)

I might be wrong on that one though.

For a challenge (starting campaign, since there is none in mid-to-late campaign with any faction) I recommend either Carthage (playing as Barcids, which means no trade to speak of) or Epirus. I find Barcids to be harder since Epirus can get trade going once it wins a few of the starting engagements. Barcids on legendary get no trade, period (Nova Carthago and potentially Etruscans are an exception).

There is a caveat to playing as Barcids: for the challenge play I recommend trying to keep all the starting territories (not giving up on neither Sicily nor Spain). This can quickly lead to a cascade of wars which Carthage is hard pressed to finance, LOL.

p.s. funny how they made a historical merchant nation so economically impotent :)

[Kamakazi]

As far as I know there is no difficulty requirement to the total war achievement