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The Black Ship
11-12-2002, 01:15
Since the patch, has anyone lost there cannons and guns?

I build the buildings, but alas, no weapons of the devil. I'm in a game as Spanish/early/expert, and the year is 1278.

Think it's because the game was started pre-patch? It would really suck to lose the game, as I'mkicking butt. Unfortunately I need to upgrade my ships, so gun galleys are a must. Any suggestions?

Puzz3D
11-12-2002, 01:26
Apparently, campaign games started in v1.0 don't work properly if continued in v1.1. I don't know if you can do anything about it. I doubt it.

hoof
11-12-2002, 01:52
Units that only exist for a later time-period than you are in will no longer be available. For example, if a gun type is late-period, but you are in the middle-period, you will not be able to build those units. Could this be what is happening to you?

Puzz3D
11-12-2002, 01:56
Oh Right. Lots of unit types were pushed back to a later time period, so that could be it.

Nobunaga0611
11-12-2002, 02:18
yup thats it. You're in the middle era right now, and you won't see guns till the late era. Kinda sucks cause I think muslim ships have a slight advantage over the ones you can build...but I still like this change overall. Keeps things more even between you and the AI.

The Black Ship
11-12-2002, 02:33
Oh well...I took a minor victory after conquering 60% and called it a day. This game really needs a scoring system for the Grand Campaign, otherwise we're just jerking our chains. How am I to know if my "score" is average, above average, or awesome unless some form of scoring system is in place? They have something for Glorious achievement, why not for the real campaign?

So even though they'll let me spend the florins on a building I can't use it until some historical date? What's 1260 for then? Why let me build the thing prematurely? Why not hold them off from the construction queue?

I'm gonna hope you're wrong, and that next game it won't happen again;)

Thanks for all your replies

insolent1
11-12-2002, 03:20
I agree Blackship they really fecked up the units & their availability. Whats the point of the gunpowder event now since you can't build any gun powder units for another 65 years. I have been tampering with the unit & build txts & hope to have a compromise soon
btw i'm also trying to sort out the mess of the building valour bonus's
btw if you want to make the gunpowder units available you can do so in the unit txt

Fearless
11-12-2002, 10:41
Sorry to say it but clean install and then the patch is the only way. Forget about pre saved games

Prodigal
11-12-2002, 15:50
No idea why, but in the right period I had cannon available in one prov. not in another, all had the same buildings too.

Nelson
11-12-2002, 19:02
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Whats the point of the gunpowder event now since you can't build any gun powder units for another 65 years.


The widespread, effective use of gunpowder came at least 100 years after its introduction to Europe.