Reading and Writing Comprehension 101

[ToranagaSama]

Komoc, is right:

In order to keep this thread from being hijacked, I'm going to start a new thread entitled "Reading and Writing Comprehension" subtitled, English incompetent impolite twits who should be banned. Haha, half sarcasm.

Why banned, because they are screwing it up for the rest of the community. If you cannot post with the interest of the overall community ALWAYS in mind then you shouldn't be allowed to post. PERIOD

Those whose primary language is not English s/b given some leeway, in addition to guidence.

For those whose primary language IS English, let the hammer fall, preferably after fair warning.

I believe this is something to be discussed by the community and then action taken. This is the second such similar situation that has arisen. We need to come to a "dictated" consensus and move on.

Any comments or responses regarding the tone and/or tenor of "posts" put in the thread.

Give me a minute, after posting this to create the new thread.

Mods, if you believe the thread s/b in another forum please move it, thanks.

[ToranagaSama]

Quote[/b] ]No it isn't - that's a physical impossibility. The writer can only do his best to write clearly and to a point. After that it's up to the reader to be competent enough to understand what is being said and to read it properly.

To say otherwise is illogical.


This is complete, total, and utter hogwash

ToranagaSama, is about to be blunt, pointed, name names, and if insulting too freaking bad. I think a certain individual has gone far enough with his obstinence. TS will also attempt to be intelligent in his comments.:

ToranagaSama, is prompted to comment because the comments of a certain individual, I believe are COUNTERPRODUCTIVE to the interests of the TW, and, specifically, the .org communities. As evidenced, by GilJaySmith's recent comments regarding the reluctance and absence of CA members to post and interact with the .org community. Back to the immediate issue at hand:

I work in the legal field, words are my business. From knowledge and experience, let me state, it is the total responsibility of the writer to make clear one's intention. Failure to do so is how things wind up before a judge. [In our case, the final judge and arbitrator are the administrators/mods of this forum.]

Do you think one can write a binding legal document, i.e., a contract, and fill it full of ambiguities to be left for the interpretation of the reader?? Don't be stupid

The same applies to ALL things one composes and writes for any and all written communcations. That includes posts to this forum.

Let me example with the following comment:

"No it isn't - that's a physical impossibility. The writer can only do his best to write clearly and to a point. "

How is one to comprehend this? First, let us define "physical" for the mental incompetents:

American Heritage Dictionary, 3rd Ed.

"1. Of or relating to the body
2. Of material things.
3. Of or relating to matter and energy or the sciences dealing with them...."

Now what is "physical" about expressing your thoughts clearly (and hopefully concisely) with the written word?

So, you see, the writer fails to express himself correctly, but yet expects the reader to interpret HIS thoughts as HE intended. (Absolute rubbish&#33http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Now, let us deal with the actual point this incompetent attempts to make. That is (using my great interpretive abilities), it is "impossible" to clearly express oneself in a manner that cannot be mis-interpreted. Again, total BS

A competent writer and express himself to a competent reader as accurately any language will allow.

The above writer is correct, in stating:

"The writer can only do his best to write clearly and to a point. "

Quite correct, BUT if your BEST isn't good enough do not put you deficiencies upon the reader. Simply DO BETTER

One last point, I quote:

"After that it's up to the reader to be competent enough to understand what is being said and to read it properly. "

What kind of logic is this???

Ahhhh....first, so one is supposed to read "properly", that which is written "improperly"? WTF??

Second, ahhhhh.....so one is supposed to "understand" ACCURATELY, by some intuitive, phsycosematic way, what the heck your your trying to communicate even though you write it poorly. (I think you need to stop smoking that S###&#33http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Sorry, just one last thing, the only hope someone, whose primary language is not English, has of "accurately" comprehend a post is if the writer composes it in well thought out and constructed language. Using your logic, such a person wouldn't have a hope in H.

Dude, YOUR illogical

[ShadeFlanders]

Citaat[/b] ]Dude, YOUR illogical
Isn't this wrong? Shouldn't it be "Dude, you're illogical". http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Anyway I think you can't force people to use proper english, if I see a post with bad spelling and especially horrible punctuation then I just don't read it. I suggest you do the same.

[solypsist]

I think you knew this would happen. Closed thread.
Please consider taking this discussion to the OT, but keep it civil. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and to express them, even though it may not always be the most common sense thing to do. Your comments are appreciated, and I'm sure the staff are aware of these posts as well as the ones mentioned.

Soly