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LordTed
07-19-2001, 16:18
I am told by people I am ok. I also know Maggy is very good and there are other players like yousoff, but who else is good at 1000 cos i would like to play more people at 1000 koku because they are scared of it and dont know what they are missing. I have had a battle last 26 seconds because of it!

Kurando
07-19-2001, 16:36
I've played almost everyone who will play me at low koku and judging on the whole I would probably say AMP is the best.

Other very good 1k'ers:

Magy.
Lord Ted.
Masked Terror.

Honourable mentions:

hjblades.
ShadeLord.
Polar.

I don't care what anyone says about 1k, I think it rules http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif + people who bad-mouth it are generally people who never bothered to really take the time to understand what it's all about.

As far as my (somewhat limited) experience goes: a 1000 koku game on a hilly map where no one camps is the best an STW multiplayer game can get.

KumaRatta Yamamoto
07-19-2001, 16:52
A guy named Kurando seems good also, but i stille prefer 2000 koku

Vanya
07-19-2001, 20:48
LOL I only need 816 koku to get my 'fun' army...

Polar
07-19-2001, 22:32
I wasnt going to post in the general forum untill I reach 1200+, but couldnt resist because kurando mentioned my little name http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/tongue.gif

yes, AMP is THE best IMO! in whatever koku games http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

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LordTed
07-20-2001, 00:47
i agree! AMP does play well

07-20-2001, 04:32
I have never seen a player flanking like AMP, simply one of the best (if not the best) shogun player (on flat lands)

Hey, I am a master in low koku battles too. http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif Ragefury is v good too...

Tera

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BlackWatch McKenna
07-20-2001, 06:28
1000????

Are you guys millionaires? Who has that kind of money. I can get by with a cool 500 koku. One thousand is pure luxury.

07-20-2001, 07:08
of course AMPers is good... he had a good teacher last summer...

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Ratta Yamamoto
07-20-2001, 11:30
I am a low koku samurai also. I am ok in 1000 koku but in my opinion Kurando is the best samurai at 1000 koku. But in 2000 koku, I am quite confident in myself. I have only lost 2 times when defending with 2000 koku at Totomi. I have also defeated AMP at 2000 koku competitive battle. However, I lost against him in friendly battles later on http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

Satake
07-20-2001, 12:50
Low koku on totomi defending? can u lose? http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

Kurando
07-20-2001, 14:07
If you're just going to camp on a hill, you probably would never lose on any map at low koku, but then you'd quickly get a bad reputation and no one would play you twice. Conversely though, the fact that you can't just be a goon and out-muscle your opponent with a rush is exactly what I like about low koku.

As far as Totomi goes: unless I get caught in a really bad situation, (guns in the rain or something), I start on the plain and finish on the plain; otherwise it's just not cricket.

-A valid argument that I've heard against low koku was something that Jaydee once said: "a raw newbie is likely to give you a tougher fight at high kuko than at low kuko" + that is very much true.

07-20-2001, 15:46
i'm damn sure i used words KOKU not Kuko
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Kurando
07-20-2001, 16:58
Is it doh! or dho!?

Conquistador
07-20-2001, 17:49
Me

Ratta Yamamoto
07-20-2001, 19:15
Quote Originally posted by Satake:
Low koku on totomi defending? can u lose? http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif[/QUOTE]

Well, I have defeated many people when I attack also! However, I also lose a lot more when I attack http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif That's why I had 14 losses. But the hills on Totomi are very small, so they don't help that much, do they? I think that Totomi is the most fair map in the game. The attacker has chance of winning on this map more than any other map, I think. That's why for competitive game I only play at the Totomi. I don't play other maps, that are hilly because it's unfair for my opponent.

Ratta Yamamoto
07-20-2001, 19:18
And by the way, if I attack at Totomi, and the defender is on any hill, I know how to take them of the hill http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif he he he....I have a plan for that situation http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

07-20-2001, 19:45
uh oh... excuse me... where do you have hills on Totomi again? http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

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The Daimyo
07-20-2001, 19:49
My men won't march for anything less than 3,000 koku. Guess we can't be a part of this thread.

Kabuto's are expensive ya know! And Shoes! Don't get me started!

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JAG
07-22-2001, 02:08
lol yeah very expensive tho amp is the best at low koku

LordTed
07-22-2001, 18:06
I play green so its all square.

Satake
07-22-2001, 19:06
Totomi does give an advantage.. The small hill on the left , viewing from attackers side , it's a killer http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif equal honor routs same unit in seconds , especialy if there's a gun up there.

Polar
07-23-2001, 04:50
Satake is right, low honour units are very vulnerable to height advantage. To be fair, low koku games should be played on Green.

Kurando
07-23-2001, 07:35
You guys are thinking completely backward + that type of mentality is main reason why only about 4 or 5 of STW's 183 availible maps are ever seen at EA-play.

I am no doubt aware of the advantage of that "small hill on the left" which Satake decribed + from the defenders perspective I have played approximately two hundred 1000 koku games on Totomi, and of those games the number of times I have ever deployed upon (or moved onto) that hill is exactly equal to zero.

Fair play is 100% the responsibility of the players, not the map makers.

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P.S. I know both of you guys are fair players + I am addressing what you have said in concept only.

Doragon_Ajidrik
07-23-2001, 10:53
I use to remember a 1630 Mori who use to be good at 1k koku games too.

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Vanya
07-24-2001, 23:28
So... WHO IS THE BEST 100 KOKU PLAYER???

07-24-2001, 23:54
Its like asking who is the best shogun player...

There aint a definite one, some shine in some games/maps/army and some shine in another.


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CaPeFeAr
07-25-2001, 14:18
oh my....it seems ive been left of this list http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/frown.gif lol so i challenge all that are to multiple matches in 1k..... chanches are you have never seen me defend...let alone camp....but we shall see...i suggest 5 battles.. attack totomi, defend totomi, attack green, defend green, both attack green.. season is summer. any takers??

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Kurando
07-25-2001, 16:10
CaPeFeAr;

That being the case, the only reason you didn't make my list is because we've never played eachother, (no disrespect meant by leaving you out).

But sure m8, I'm game; I'd rather not put things in terms of challenges and whatnot though; we do see eachother online now-and-then, so next time let's make a point of having a few matches. (I'm not playing at the level of heavyweights like AMP and Lord Ted, but I'll definitely give you a good fight at low koku).

CaPeFeAr
07-26-2001, 03:55
amp beats me about 60/40 in 1k http://www.totalwar.org/ubb/smile.gif

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Swoosh So
07-26-2001, 03:58
Im pretty good at 1k but only cause i knicked ncs army hehe


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