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03-18-2014, 15:37
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Hello To All Total Warians, this is my first Thread.
i wanted to post this thread in 16th actually, but believe me im now in recovery myself from the depression and being wailful and mournful of what a great disaster and tragedy this catastrophe was. i could not stop my Tears in my Eyes when heard about a mother and another, a boy’s Story, were telling about how Ba'this in Anfal Campaign, invaded them splited them abused them butchered them and chemicalled them and buried them in mass graves.
unfortunately the Documentary i saw has not been published on internet or anywhere except BBC Persian with English Subtitle. nothing can really give you the understanding of how was the deplorability and woefulness of the situation. unfortunately unlike The Holocust and and like Armenian Genocide, Iraqi Kurdish Genocide is very little known and also less documented. the reasons are many. Kurds dont have an State to be known since many years fighting for it. or even Westerns hand in the Genocide, and the hardness situation for journalists to reach there. but i will link you some Sources and some harsh and terrible and awful Videos and Pictures that only shows some little things that happened and not the perfect whole true sentimental view of the tragic story. but its better than nothing:
(Note that the numbers are from 1990 and still many mass graves has not been found and many missed and never was founded or to be known. so the numbers definitely are higher than official). Summarized Sources >>>>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Anfal_Campaign
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_chemical_attack
http://www.kurdishgenocide.com/
http://uk.krg.org/genocide/pages/page.aspx?lngnr=12&smap=130000&pnr=37
http://uk.krg.org/genocide/pages/page.aspx?lngnr=12&smap=170000&pnr=48
http://www.justice4genocide.com/survivor_stories.php
http://www.ibtimes.com/25-years-after-worst-chemical-weapon-massacre-history-saddam-husseins-attack-halabja-iraq-city http://rudaw.net/english/interview/23082013 and search for more.......
Some Videos and Images: >>>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vn6unMAhl6s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIeN0anJ1iA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBk4c8wfnMM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux2ez7TPxVw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdhgy9EuRNc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH21Lp0vYiE (See the Next one too).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWOSgybdGrw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLz4eXdZgpQ
and ther's too much more you should search yourself to find them.
i really could not find a better website for pictures. but you can google it >> https://www.google.com/search?q=halabja+chemical+attack&client=firefox-a&hs=Ddb&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Q1IoU9yYJ5PhoATt34K4Dw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ
search in "Al Anfal Campaign/Genocide and any keyword related to this. still you need to search more....
but Kurdish Genocide is not only halabja. many years before that "BloodyFriday"’s massacre, since 60s, the Ba'th Regime and Saddam Hussain were planning and executing many ways of Wiping out the Kurds and fully genocide them! since 1950s specially when Saddam’s Coupe for power, until the fall of Saddam. this means Kurds over than 40 years under full Suppression Oppression and Absolute Terror and Tyranny. for one example, in complete peace, suddenly soldiers attacked villages of Barzan Clan and took every "Fight able Age", men and Boys some 8000 over than 13 years old were taken to the camps and mass killed them there and shot them in back to fall in death pits in southern of Iraq for that their body never to be found. Arabization of many cities including Oil Potential region like Kirkuk and force migrate them to south western parts and place them with Arabs of Iraq & Palestine. RAZING over 4500 Villages TO THE GROUND and sent or killed the whole villagers. Chemical many cities and villages with Sarin and nerve gas to leave no chance of letting them live again. but they were not had the chance of be Filmed and documented...
But indeed Halabja is a symbolic sign of what was done these years to Kurdish People, that no one knew or cared even now. Halabja was the shouts and tears and misfortunes of how Kurds suffered there. because it was city not village to be covered and not even a single video be recorded. And Saddam’s Regime knew that so they mostly Attacked Villages than Cities. That’s why Halabja’s Massacre was more obvious than the rest of Anfal Campaign and other Kurdish Genocides.
The difference of Armenian and Iraqi Kurdish Genocide with others like Holocust, is that its now the WOMEN and CHILDREN that are victims too and even the Most, and even Animals!
When you see a 12 year old girl carrying her 6 year old sister and fleeing with cry and fear, while all of her family died from bombards or in Chemical Radius.
When you see a little boy miraculously survived from Mass Graves and flees to desert while again his whole family died. And when I say whole family, not only parents and brothers and sisters I mean all but even cousins and other persons of the family and Relatives, so there no one is to protect or adopt him/her. i had a friend in Germany was a Kurd and he said he has lost his all relatives and family! some 23 People!
Also Fathers and Mothers saw their Child infected by the gas and dying in front of their eyes and others saw their children’s body torn apart. and even parents that missed their child don’t know they were in Iran or even don’t know they were alive or not and have not seen them in all these 26 years since the Massacre and still no News about them. Means that even if they are alive, but in Islamic Republic of Iran’s law they can not have certificate and recognizer of anything and means he/she does not exist and have no rights but always as refugees with no respect.
The little children see their Home Destroyed or Razed, and Father & Mother, Brothers and Sisters, even their pets, Relatives, fell without any moves and any voice coming out from them .
HOW do you feel when you put yourself in their situations? How do you think about the world? You still are happy or natural about west was/is silence about what happened to you? and even their aid of the Genocide?
indeed the worse fact is that this is documented and filmed about ONLY Halabja! while in their History, Kurds suffered so much more times of being Mass Killed & Genocided and force migrations and banning of their any points of Their Ancient cultures like language customs and clothes. Genocides of Kurds in Fascist Turkey, Assad's Familyand Syria in General. and also oppression of Kurds in Iran. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_genocide (this is very very few Documented and Researched)
i dont think any nation or ethnic has suffered all this misfortunes, calamities and disasters in Human History!
I had much, much to tell, but not in this post nor in any long texts or even Videos can really show and make you understand what really happened and how really people Suffered.
So its yours importance to humanity and how much you care and call yourself as “Human” because there are very lots of things and events that Yours and (Controlled) World Media “Don’t Care” or simply “Covers” the Crime because they have hands in it too. but a single American soldier's death will be in first titles.
So its yours how much you really believe your claim of Democracy, Humanity, Care for the world you live in it. so its yours duty then to research more in internet and archives or anywhere anyway to understand the depth of the tragic and violation of human rights. The simple rights that many ethnics & nations were/are banned and divested from them.
So please search for more links videos and images. Because its not like Holocust that the world support it at any cost to be full known. It was but covered from the world and no one to support it, and even somehow against being world wide. I said, its your Humanitarian Duty …. Rest is up to yours.
12509
Hello To All Total Warians, this is my first Thread.
i wanted to post this thread in 16th actually, but believe me im now in recovery myself from the depression and being wailful and mournful of what a great disaster and tragedy this catastrophe was. i could not stop my Tears in my Eyes when heard about a mother and another, a boy’s Story, were telling about how Ba'this in Anfal Campaign, invaded them splited them abused them butchered them and chemicalled them and buried them in mass graves.
unfortunately the Documentary i saw has not been published on internet or anywhere except BBC Persian with English Subtitle. nothing can really give you the understanding of how was the deplorability and woefulness of the situation. unfortunately unlike The Holocust and and like Armenian Genocide, Iraqi Kurdish Genocide is very little known and also less documented. the reasons are many. Kurds dont have an State to be known since many years fighting for it. or even Westerns hand in the Genocide, and the hardness situation for journalists to reach there. but i will link you some Sources and some harsh and terrible and awful Videos and Pictures that only shows some little things that happened and not the perfect whole true sentimental view of the tragic story. but its better than nothing:
(Note that the numbers are from 1990 and still many mass graves has not been found and many missed and never was founded or to be known. so the numbers definitely are higher than official). Summarized Sources >>>>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Anfal_Campaign
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_chemical_attack
http://www.kurdishgenocide.com/
http://uk.krg.org/genocide/pages/page.aspx?lngnr=12&smap=130000&pnr=37
http://uk.krg.org/genocide/pages/page.aspx?lngnr=12&smap=170000&pnr=48
http://www.justice4genocide.com/survivor_stories.php
http://www.ibtimes.com/25-years-after-worst-chemical-weapon-massacre-history-saddam-husseins-attack-halabja-iraq-city http://rudaw.net/english/interview/23082013 and search for more.......
Some Videos and Images: >>>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vn6unMAhl6s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIeN0anJ1iA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBk4c8wfnMM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux2ez7TPxVw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdhgy9EuRNc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH21Lp0vYiE (See the Next one too).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWOSgybdGrw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLz4eXdZgpQ
and ther's too much more you should search yourself to find them.
i really could not find a better website for pictures. but you can google it >> https://www.google.com/search?q=halabja+chemical+attack&client=firefox-a&hs=Ddb&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Q1IoU9yYJ5PhoATt34K4Dw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ
search in "Al Anfal Campaign/Genocide and any keyword related to this. still you need to search more....
but Kurdish Genocide is not only halabja. many years before that "BloodyFriday"’s massacre, since 60s, the Ba'th Regime and Saddam Hussain were planning and executing many ways of Wiping out the Kurds and fully genocide them! since 1950s specially when Saddam’s Coupe for power, until the fall of Saddam. this means Kurds over than 40 years under full Suppression Oppression and Absolute Terror and Tyranny. for one example, in complete peace, suddenly soldiers attacked villages of Barzan Clan and took every "Fight able Age", men and Boys some 8000 over than 13 years old were taken to the camps and mass killed them there and shot them in back to fall in death pits in southern of Iraq for that their body never to be found. Arabization of many cities including Oil Potential region like Kirkuk and force migrate them to south western parts and place them with Arabs of Iraq & Palestine. RAZING over 4500 Villages TO THE GROUND and sent or killed the whole villagers. Chemical many cities and villages with Sarin and nerve gas to leave no chance of letting them live again. but they were not had the chance of be Filmed and documented...
But indeed Halabja is a symbolic sign of what was done these years to Kurdish People, that no one knew or cared even now. Halabja was the shouts and tears and misfortunes of how Kurds suffered there. because it was city not village to be covered and not even a single video be recorded. And Saddam’s Regime knew that so they mostly Attacked Villages than Cities. That’s why Halabja’s Massacre was more obvious than the rest of Anfal Campaign and other Kurdish Genocides.
The difference of Armenian and Iraqi Kurdish Genocide with others like Holocust, is that its now the WOMEN and CHILDREN that are victims too and even the Most, and even Animals!
When you see a 12 year old girl carrying her 6 year old sister and fleeing with cry and fear, while all of her family died from bombards or in Chemical Radius.
When you see a little boy miraculously survived from Mass Graves and flees to desert while again his whole family died. And when I say whole family, not only parents and brothers and sisters I mean all but even cousins and other persons of the family and Relatives, so there no one is to protect or adopt him/her. i had a friend in Germany was a Kurd and he said he has lost his all relatives and family! some 23 People!
Also Fathers and Mothers saw their Child infected by the gas and dying in front of their eyes and others saw their children’s body torn apart. and even parents that missed their child don’t know they were in Iran or even don’t know they were alive or not and have not seen them in all these 26 years since the Massacre and still no News about them. Means that even if they are alive, but in Islamic Republic of Iran’s law they can not have certificate and recognizer of anything and means he/she does not exist and have no rights but always as refugees with no respect.
The little children see their Home Destroyed or Razed, and Father & Mother, Brothers and Sisters, even their pets, Relatives, fell without any moves and any voice coming out from them .
HOW do you feel when you put yourself in their situations? How do you think about the world? You still are happy or natural about west was/is silence about what happened to you? and even their aid of the Genocide?
indeed the worse fact is that this is documented and filmed about ONLY Halabja! while in their History, Kurds suffered so much more times of being Mass Killed & Genocided and force migrations and banning of their any points of Their Ancient cultures like language customs and clothes. Genocides of Kurds in Fascist Turkey, Assad's Familyand Syria in General. and also oppression of Kurds in Iran. >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish_genocide (this is very very few Documented and Researched)
i dont think any nation or ethnic has suffered all this misfortunes, calamities and disasters in Human History!
I had much, much to tell, but not in this post nor in any long texts or even Videos can really show and make you understand what really happened and how really people Suffered.
So its yours importance to humanity and how much you care and call yourself as “Human” because there are very lots of things and events that Yours and (Controlled) World Media “Don’t Care” or simply “Covers” the Crime because they have hands in it too. but a single American soldier's death will be in first titles.
So its yours how much you really believe your claim of Democracy, Humanity, Care for the world you live in it. so its yours duty then to research more in internet and archives or anywhere anyway to understand the depth of the tragic and violation of human rights. The simple rights that many ethnics & nations were/are banned and divested from them.
So please search for more links videos and images. Because its not like Holocust that the world support it at any cost to be full known. It was but covered from the world and no one to support it, and even somehow against being world wide. I said, its your Humanitarian Duty …. Rest is up to yours.
12509