Thesis: forgiveness is the worst cruelty of all.

[Fragony]

It doesn't come from me it's in this English movie 'Looking for Eric'. But there is something to say for it, it's a form of a personal denouncement to be forgiven for what you actually did. You are left thinking about what you did, out of touch with it, it doesn't matter anymore, even if you are really sorry.

[Husar]

So it's better when it does matter for the rest of your life and you know that they hate you and want you dead?

[Fragony]

Was thinking about something more subtle than wanting someone dead; hurting someones feelings and be forgiven for it. Feelings will still be hurt regardless. How can you make things up if you are dismissed of any accountability, you no longer exist.

Edit, has nothing to do with me by the way, it's a musing

[Husar]

If you are dismissed and ignored, that doesn't sound like forgiveness, more like a lack of it.

[Brenus]

Hmm. During the Middle-ages, the worst punishment wasn't death, as you still belong to the community (and it helps if you believe in a futures after-life) but banishment. Being an outcast was worst than an outlaw, you were left alone to face dangers and life's uncertainties.

As forgiveness involvement, it depends on the level of morality or guilt is in the "bad" doing.

[Beskar]

I forgive you, Fragony.

[Papewaio]

I forgive you, Fragony.

Ouch that's like a billion upon billions of warning points!

[Fragony]

I forgive him.

ffs that was funny, kudo's

[Kadagar_AV]

I, for one... Vote for the Pulp Fiction basement scene as more cruel than forgiving someone.

[Hax]

Have you been playing KotOR II?

[Fragony]

Have you been playing KotOR II?

Played that, but no, it's a question from a really good friend of mine. Maybe you guys have better answers, it's haunting him right now.

[rvg]

Played that, but no, it's a question from a really good friend of mine. Maybe you guys have better answers, it's haunting him right now.

Sounds like he having trouble forgiving himself. There's nothing wrong with having regrets; if I for instance were to list all the things I wish I had not done, it would be a very long post. Life goes on though, and sometimes there's literally not a damn thing you can do about righting the wrong. In that situation all you can do is acknowledge that you were wrong, forgive yourself for it, promise yourself not to repeat the mistake, then move on. The ability to forgive yourself imho is absolutely crucial, as it also allows you to forgive others.

[HoreTore]

3d grade philosophy.

Forgiveness as a cruelty? Hah! 1st world problems. Enjoy a proper dungeon, you spoilt brats.

[Husar]

3d grade philosophy.

Will it support the Oculus Rift?

[Strike For The South]

The forgiveness is not for the wrongdoing

A rather self centered friend, if you ask me

[a completely inoffensive name]

Have you been playing KotOR II?

Kreia was such a legit character, I almost wanted her to win.

[Beskar]

Forgiveness as a cruelty? Hah! 1st world problems. Enjoy a proper dungeon, you spoilt brats.

Clearly you haven't seen the tactics they had to resort to in Gitmo after they ruled out the sound-room and waterboarding. Forgiving the terrorists will make them be denied their glorious seventy virgins.