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druzhina
05-26-2014, 13:44
A mercenary Companion man-at-arms, by Ian Heath (http://warfare.gq/WRG/Middle_Ages_1-21-Companion.htm), is based on Chroniques de France ou de St Denis, folio 186r, The English army (http://warfare.gq/14/Chroniques_de_France-1398-186r.htm)
and the Knight in the Ellesmere Manuscript of Geoffrey Chaucer's Canterbury Tales, Huntington Library MS EL 26 C 9 (http://warfare.gq/15/Ellesmere_knight.htm)
He is portrayed as having very wide quilted sleeves which may be attached to his sides or back. The rider in the Chroniques de France ou de St Denis doesn't have quilting on the sleeves and not all the garment can be seen. Baggy sleeves with tight cuffs are shown in other folios (some quilted) and can also be seen on the effigy of Heinrich Beyer of Boppard, Germany (http://warfare.gq/14/Effigy-Heinrich_Beyer.htm) of similar date. There are very wide sleeves in Chroniques de France ou de St Denis, folio 212r, Killing of the bailiff (http://warfare.gq/14/Chroniques_de_France-1398-212r.htm), perhaps this type of thing is what is represented?
Are there any other depictions of a garment like the Ellesmere Knight's, or is this a rarity?
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=12926&d=1401108187

MIRROR SITES
A mercenary Companion man-at-arms, by Ian Heath (http://warfare.cf/WRG/Middle_Ages_1-21-Companion.htm)
Chroniques de France ou de St Denis, British Library MS Royal 20 C VII, c.1398 (http://warfare.cf/14/Chroniques_de_France-1398.htm)
Effigy of Heinrich Beyer of Boppard, Germany (http://warfare.cf/14/Effigy-Heinrich_Beyer.htm)

Druzhina
14th Century Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://warfare.gq/14C.htm)

druzhina
05-27-2014, 06:29
https://img843.imageshack.us/img843/471/w79yw.jpg
This one is also based on the Ellesmere Knight. Rather than wearing a Houppelande with sleeves that are very wide at the cuff, he is portrayed with padded sleeves with a padded attachment going around his back.

Druzhina
15th Century Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://warfare.gq/15C.htm)

druzhina
05-29-2014, 07:00
I've had a reply from david kuijt:


Bag-sleeved houpellandes are a common variation on the more widely known trumpet sleeved houpellande. Here's one image:
http://www.virtue.to/articles/images/1300s_romanrose.jpg


I suppose some of the sleeves of the Ulstermen in Derricke's The Image of Irelande (http://warfare.gq/Renaissance/Derricke_The_Image_of_Irelande-2.htm) could be called bag sleeves.

Druzhina
Illustrations of Irish Costume & Soldiers (http://warfare.gq/Irish.htm)