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vartan
05-31-2014, 10:35
EB Online Tournament 2014: A Call to Arms

Introduction
It has been a while and our swords have rusted, but I call on you to polish that steel and ready yourselves for another round of our dearest old friend, Europa Barbarorum Online summer tournament. In the days of old, we would run two or more month-long tournaments during the summer. Last year (2013) proved to us that EB as a multiplayer game was aging, nearing what seems to be its end. In honor of everyone who participated in the development of this great mod, which is now culminating in the first public release of its sequel (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?147345-EB2-RELEASE-DATE-CONFIRMED-August-2014), let us raise our swords one last time.

Setup
The setup should be familiar to the veterans. For the newcomers to the multiplayer scene, please visit our Getting Started (http://www.ebmultiplayer.com/getting-started/) and Rules (http://www.ebmultiplayer.com/rules/) pages so as to familiarize yourself with the necessary custom EDU as well as our detailed ruleset. Please do not feel daunted! It is simpler than it seems at first glance. This tournament will be a Single Elimination tournament with each matchup being determined by the Best of Three battles. The exception is the Finals which will be Best of Five. Players are seeded randomly.

Sign-ups, Start and End Date
Sign-ups are accepted until Thursday, 12 June 2014, at 11:59 PM EDT (New York; UTC -4 hours). The tournament thus begins on (wait for it!) Friday the 13th of June 2014. I will announce the closure of sign-ups with a reply to this thread and an update to this first post. The tournament ends when the finals are over. I trust the players to arrange their match times among themselves, but please resolve through the end of finals before 31 July 2014, before the release of EB II. Please connect using our Hamachi network (100-792-846; eb).

Prizes
1st Place


Europa Universalis IV (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_Universalis_IV)
EB T-Shirt (http://www.cafepress.com/mf/34702198/tshirt14trans_tshirt?shop=ebswag&productId=395037098)


2nd place


Skyrim (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyrim)
EB T-Shirt (http://www.cafepress.com/mf/34702198/tshirt14trans_tshirt?shop=ebswag&productId=395037098)


Getting Started (http://www.ebmultiplayer.com/getting-started/)
Rules (http://www.ebmultiplayer.com/rules/)
Tournament Bracket (http://challonge.com/ebot_summer_2014)

For all suggestions, concerns, questions or concerns, please reply to this thread or feel free to send me private message.

Game on,

Vartan

vartan
05-31-2014, 10:42
Reserved.

BroskiDerpman
05-31-2014, 16:35
I will be installing hamachi tomorrow, I'll be available to play after that. Just chat me when I'm online on the network as when I'm on I can play.

Kranos
05-31-2014, 16:40
can people from TWC sign up there? I brought some guys

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?654119-Last-EBO-Tournament-Sign-ups-Open

Vlixes
05-31-2014, 23:23
Count me in. I hope I can resolve the Hamachi lobby problem I've got since the change of PC.

vartan
06-01-2014, 01:11
Awesome, we have 11 members now. Let's get some more players! This will be great :)

BroskiDerpman
06-01-2014, 01:53
Ok some rules suggestions:

No making use of redline border to benefit your forces.

Both players are designated attackers, they must do something to attack within a reasonable timeframe with at least one unit. (reasonable ala not sitting there forever)

Max 8 phalanx (or 6) units:

To prevent hardcore pike box. Can be dealt with but extremely annoying and time consuming. EB battles already have units fight to the last man in slow motion, no need to make it even more agonizing to watch. Plus in any regular army who brings more then 8 pikes? Heck even 6 is good enough.

Also we must reinforce heavily no pulling through enemy units, it's nonsense when you send a cavalry unit to pin an other cav unit and it just pulls through your unit. Happened to me lots of time before and I hope people do not pull off such cheap moves in the tournament.

There also should be a more stricter map pool with mostly flat maps.

Kranos
06-01-2014, 12:09
so we can only choose 1 faction throughout?

vartan
06-02-2014, 19:01
Ok some rules suggestions:

No making use of redline border to benefit your forces.

Both players are designated attackers, they must do something to attack within a reasonable timeframe with at least one unit. (reasonable ala not sitting there forever)

Max 8 phalanx (or 6) units:

To prevent hardcore pike box. Can be dealt with but extremely annoying and time consuming. EB battles already have units fight to the last man in slow motion, no need to make it even more agonizing to watch. Plus in any regular army who brings more then 8 pikes? Heck even 6 is good enough.

Also we must reinforce heavily no pulling through enemy units, it's nonsense when you send a cavalry unit to pin an other cav unit and it just pulls through your unit. Happened to me lots of time before and I hope people do not pull off such cheap moves in the tournament.

There also should be a more stricter map pool with mostly flat maps.

These are all great concerns to keep in mind and I'd like to hear what the players involved think about this. I also wonder what any vets think. I'm looking at you Storm and TCV. Obviously I want to steer as clear from my own input as possible.


so we can only choose 1 faction throughout?

No. This isn't a monthly tourney like we used to have. This is an elimination tournament. Say player A faces player B in the first round. It's best of 3. In game 1 we might see Rome vs Sele, game 2 might be Pahlava vs Casse, and game 3 might be Sauromatae vs Carthage. Knock your socks off.

EDIT: Got some newcomers from the TWC. Please, if you're reading this, sign up here if you haven't.

Kranos
06-02-2014, 20:03
I dont have anyhting against those rules being enforced
but Broski should pay attention to the existing rules before concerning about new players adhere to additional ones. He knows what Im talking about

vartan
06-03-2014, 01:39
I dont have anyhting against those rules being enforced
but Broski should pay attention to the existing rules before concerning about new players adhere to additional ones. He knows what Im talking about

I'm sorry but I asked him (and everyone willing) to contribute their suggestions. We're not talking about new rules. We're talking about legitimate concerns with the rules I have laid out for you in the site I personally fund each year. I'm not only trying to avoid strictly enforcing what we have, but I'm also trying to get some opinions (albeit short notice) of what some top issues might be of concern to us for this tournament. What Broski has described sound to me like vanilla RTW multiplayer phenomena. That, any vets here will know, is not how EB players play. We don't make silly boxes or follow an imaginary red line. So if you're new to the scene, please consider the fact that EB is not vanilla. We respect that to some extent in the way we play our MP battles. EB is a learning experience, after all.

BroskiDerpman
06-03-2014, 01:49
@Agathodaimon.

Don't even get me started on that, I do not play EB online very often. I haven't memorized clearly what is factional unit or not and many times such classification can be blurred. Sure I may have broken the rules twice (the first time you didn't say anything as you won) but when you have lost then you started to care. I have only realized such rule breaking when I checked the spreadsheet and rechecked the rules after I had to leave the network.

Here's the screw ups: I memorized the Roman mercenary limit and forgot regular limit was 6 so I literally took 10 foreign (Rome is 8 but I thought chariots were native) units. That is my bad. But... There is no need to go any further when I have recognized the screw up and plus, it's a friendly game, not competitive. Next time I will read more carefully in the spreadsheet to check if I broke rules or not. There is still a margin for error as again, I am still not too familiar with EB whether it be the campaign or battles.

There is no need to point out that I screwed up, I did but that does not mean I can not make rules recommendations to prevent abuse of game mechanics to benefit the players in the tournament with more enjoyable battles.

tishtar
06-03-2014, 15:56
Truth be told, I think that hoplite boxes should be banned.
I always feel that they limit the faction pool, after all , none but the most veteran dare to tackle hardcore hoplite boxes with pahlava, per se.
also, what do you mean by "elimination matches"? So if a player loses he is out of the game?
in general, I thank you for organizing this event and I will join asap, and I will bring a friend too.

vartan
06-04-2014, 05:51
Hi tishtar,

I admit, I haven't posted anything in the rules page about phalanx/pike-box formations, but I suppose it's been an unwritten rule. I would definitely let a vet second me on this before I assure you, but it's what I feel has been part of the assumption all along (if you watch previous tournament matches).

A single elimination tournament means if you lose your match, you are out of the tournament. So you might win several best-of-3 matches, then reach semifinals, and lose 2 battles to your opponent. You're out of the tournament because you have been eliminated. Double-elimination would mean all losers get to play in a losers bracket and the winner of that bracket has a chance to come back into the finals. The trouble is we don't have enough time to arrange so many matches.

V

Jiub
06-04-2014, 09:54
Hi, I've signed in this tournament back on TWC.net, just letting you know here as well.

Also, with regards with pulling units through other units, like mentioned above by Broski, why is it such a big deal that they should be banned ? I'm really new to EB, but as far as I know, pulling a unit through another unit will get you a lot of casualties, so it's really a trade off between casualties and what you want to achieve.

Could someone link me to some rules used for this tournament ? Thanks!

Maximus Rosarius
06-04-2014, 10:54
Hi, same like Jiub I signed up at TWC.net, now signed up on this Forum like requested and looking forward to participate!! :bow:

(Never played online before)

Cheers!
Maximus

tishtar
06-04-2014, 14:39
vartan
Thank you for your explanation. what I meant was that due to the limited number of participants, that might make the event too short. but now that I think, I see that it would not be the case.
nice prizes by the the way, though it is unlikely that I win any!
Also, It would be nice to make the games scored resolution, to encourage picking non-Hellenic factions.
P.S: I am not familiar with the tournament procedure. Does registeration mean just posting here?

Kranos
06-04-2014, 15:27
I admit, I haven't posted anything in the rules page about phalanx/pike-box formations, but I suppose it's been an unwritten rule. I would definitely let a vet second me on this before I assure you, but it's what I feel has been part of the assumption all along (if you watch previous tournament matches).

well yes these kind of rules were left to a common sense even more basic than the usual fair play rules. But maybe Broski comes from a more grubby and rowdy online scene with the TW games and he probably know where his fears might come out especially if he intends to bring some of his fellows here. I hope they will not be that cranky how you seemed to me even a month ago when you first joined and then you suddenly give up (after bot being happy with some rules too) youll explain them that EB is a little different.


This cant be offtopic but has much to do with he rules and online etiquete even if it has turned in a personal business between me and Broski: you should not have that bad attitude when someone ask you about a potential rule breaking (whatever if it comes after a win or loss). What to mention about that low and lame threat at hamachi. In the good old days Vartan would kick you out for less... I hope youll make me change this impression


Alowing myself a joke, the most important rule for EB Online would now appear to be that people HAVE to leave the network after they are done at hamachi. It seems impossible for them to do it voluntarily and now the network will be at limit.

BroskiDerpman
06-04-2014, 19:22
I did not leave because I was unhappy with rules, I stopped playing because I was spending my free time playing other games like Red Orchestra 2. The only cranky-ness is my frustration with the game mechanics which I am not used to, period. Nothing else. Is one not allowed to vent off some heat?

I asked you to cease with the questions and statements on rule breaking as it was a friendly game and that should be enough before you called me a you know what and I returned in kind. If I am kicked so shall it be, that is the decision of the people in power. If Vartan feels the need to kick me that is his choice and only his choice. I am fine if he chooses so.

Also this

"But maybe Broski comes from a more grubby and rowdy online scene with the TW games and he probably know where his fears might come out especially if he intends to bring some of his fellows here."

is a mis interpretation of the actual scene. There are many players who are friendly but there is simply much more players that there of course will be roudy people. Also the people I intend to bring here are polite unless if provoked first, they will also respond in kind if provoked or feel provoked so that is an insult to fellow TW players. We always begin our games with glhf, end it with a gg, chat a little, etc.

I ask again, please desist now; instead of carrying your frustrations here against me. (Also just for your knowledge I didn't carry out my threats haha, it was a hollow one ;P)

I have told Lino when you left that I desire to give my apologies and I hoped you have in return. Now lets get back to actually playing and enjoying. :2thumbsup:

My concern with the tournament rules is that it can allow for such actions, you could say it is cheap but it does not break the fair play rules so if I were to sit at the red line one can not disqualify me or do anything about that as it is not fair if I get punished when other players can also do the same thing. People may not do it but I believe one should keep that in mind.

Edit: Aga and I have resolved the matter.

vartan
06-06-2014, 04:44
Jiub and Maximus Rosarius, thank you for announcing your presence in this thread. As you may have inferred, I am to keep track of this tournament in this thread because I consider this the primary home of the EB community, and because this is where we have been organizing since the first relatively large tournament for EB in 2009.

I sincerely hope you (i.e., Aga/Orph & Broski) have resolved your personal matters. Just to make things clear, I (and I'm sure any moderators as well) would appreciate it if such personal issues were kept to the realm of private messages rather than functional threads such as this one. The purpose of this thread is to allow registration to the tournament as well as match reports as the tournament progresses. Please keep this in mind for the sake of all involved.

Tishtar, you mention the possibility of a score-based tournament instead of the current format. Truth be told, all of our tournaments have been score-based before. Or rather, your score was your wins minus losses. We didn't do actual scoring such as total casualties inflicted. This would obviously vary across matchups and I really do not want to consider just how we would normalize for that. I do hope all are content with the single elimination format with best-of-3 matches (sans the final match, best-of-5).

Jiub, I've listed a link to the rules page on my EB Online site. Also, I'm not sure what is precisely meant by "pulling units through other units". I imagine it means ordering your unit to move through (and behind) an enemy unit, as opposed to giving an attack order. Let me quote fair-play rule #1, a fairly old one:

Fair-play Rule #1: No running or charging through units with either infantry or cavalry.

As you can see on the details of that rule on the site, the exception is a cavalry unit running either to escape (if completely surrounded, i.e., on all sides) or to run through loose-form infantry. I guess the simplest thing I can say about how FPR1 originated is that we wanted to prevent units from coming into contact with opposing units without engaging. Obviously you can do this in the Rome: Total War engine. We are just discouraging it due to concerns of realism. Please note, the ruleset are to be taken as fundamental claims of what is real and historical. It is a balance between that and the ability to play without an overwhelming amount of rules. Believe it or not, the legacy site (previous version, coded from scratch, non-wordpress) was like a whole book of rules. It was eventually considered to be more toxic than helpful to the multiplayer scene and so myself and others began discussions that led to the pruning and condensing of the ruleset.

Please pardon the wall of text as I try and address everyone's concerns. Do not hesitate to ask any questions if clarification is needed. I understand some of you are entirely new to the scene.

V

tishtar
06-06-2014, 07:24
what I meant by Scored resolution was that in a best of three match, the person who has inflicted the most casualities wins.
The ladder scores of course, will still be based on win and lose numbers.
also, it would be good if the veterans could share some tips with us newbies.

madmatg
06-08-2014, 17:47
I would love to play but not sure how multiplayer will work on my computer, could someday try a round out with me?

Sent from my MI 2S using Tapatalk

vartan
06-09-2014, 05:50
Tishtar, the way we have it set up, it's simply an elimination tournament. Arranged matches where the first to get 2 victories moves on. Keeps it simple. Though I think it would be worth trying out the scored resolutions sometime. I don't plan on changing anything last minute such as the format, but it's a good idea.

Madmatg, I'll add you to the bracket for now. I hope you are able to play!

madmatg
06-09-2014, 08:27
Thanks vartan, I am in China so by schedule may be a little difficult but most of my classes are over for the semester so I'll have extra time

Sent from my MI 2S using Tapatalk

Kranos
06-09-2014, 15:43
Ill have only fugitive internet acces most of this month so Im afraid Ill have to withdraw from this. I hope youll have good fun and the best will win.

Sepehr Kurden Madig
06-12-2014, 15:26
Sweeeeeet Sweeeeeet Sweeeeet !!! THANK GOD IM HERE ON TIME !!! and ill be playing as ptolemy (god help me i havnt played the game for about 9 months :( )

madmatg
06-12-2014, 15:56
Haha I haven't played multiplayer in like 5 years :0

Sent from my MI 2S using Tapatalk

Jiub
06-12-2014, 16:03
The rules say nothing of a cap on cavalry, except regarding the unit's cost. Is that correct ?
Also, what's so unbalanced in upgrading troops's armor or weapon ?

Sepehr Kurden Madig
06-12-2014, 16:22
Hey just one thing ! me and tishtar (im his friend) cant start the tournement till till saturday ! is it ok ? well i have a stable connection and tishtar is on vacation till then ! so if its ok we will start our matches then !

vartan
06-12-2014, 18:37
The rules say nothing of a cap on cavalry, except regarding the unit's cost. Is that correct ?
Also, what's so unbalanced in upgrading troops's armor or weapon ?

A long time ago in a galaxy far away the players investigated and came to the conclusion that other than a single experience boost, the blacksmith upgrades (for weapon or armor) were too high-benefit low-cost for the sake of multiplayer. All balancing revolved around redesigning the multiplayer EDU. Very good question, thank you for that.


Hey just one thing ! me and tishtar (im his friend) cant start the tournement till till saturday ! is it ok ? well i have a stable connection and tishtar is on vacation till then ! so if its ok we will start our matches then !

If tishtar is unable to connect to his opponents, he may not be able to play at all. It's something that errs me quite a bit since it's not a new issue. Each year we have a handful of folk who for some reason or another cannot connect to others in the game, despite having a 'normal' Internet connection setup, with nothing that could apparently be an issue...

Also, remember, it is up to the players to arrange with their opponent in their current matchup when they will play their 3 games, before reporting the results here (with replays). I know I didn't mention this, but please, please post your replays here. We not only archive replays for posterity's sake, but just in case we need to review them.

You may notice the seeds in the tournament bracket being shuffled as new players come in. Don't mind this. After I announce the closure of registrations, the bracket will remain fixed. At that point, anyone who for whatever reason cannot play in the tournament (be it a technical issue, or real life) will simply be marked as having lost their matchup, and their opponent having moved on to the next round.

madmatg
06-13-2014, 02:39
I would love if someone could help me try this out, I have it all set up but haven't ever tried on this new computer I have. Anybody got time? don't need to play a full game just make sure it loads and connects ok

Sepehr Kurden Madig
06-13-2014, 07:35
I think you didnt understand what i was saying ! Im saying that me and tishtar can play but instead of today tomorrow because for me i have a internet problem that will be fixed tomorrow and for tishtar he is on vacation and will be available tomorrow so if its ok we will begin our matches tomorrow ?

tishtar
06-13-2014, 08:56
what sepehr means is that I do not have access to EB right now, but I will be able to play tomorrow.
as for the network problem, I am pretty sure that there won't be much trouble, as my laptop doesn't have this problem (I am 99% sure, as I could play on it last year.).
thanks seper and vartan

Jiub
06-13-2014, 09:27
what sepehr means is that I do not have access to EB right now, but I will be able to play tomorrow.
as for the network problem, I am pretty sure that there won't be much trouble, as my laptop doesn't have this problem (I am 99% sure, as I could play on it last year.).
thanks seper and vartan

Hey tishtar, you're to fight me. You've got my ok to fight tomorrow, I don't mind. Only thing is that tomorrow I won't be always here since I have a commitment.
Tomorrow I am free all day except for 9 pm (+2 time zone - Bucharest timezone). If we manage to play our games before that hour we're good. ;)
We'll continue talking via visitor messages.

vartan
06-13-2014, 14:41
Alright guys, registrations are of course over. Please enjoy, first and foremost. If there are any questions or anything isn't clear, please let me know. You may private message me. Also, definitely use the private messaging system to find times to play your matches. I wish everyone the best of luck and a lot of fun (=

V

linuslinothorax
06-13-2014, 15:51
The network is full, i cannot join. No wonder, if around 25 persons are dead logs. It seems that we need a new network.

vartan
06-14-2014, 00:08
As a workaround you can create your own temporary network to play with your partner. Just use the Network menu option in Hamachi.

BroskiDerpman
06-14-2014, 00:59
I forgot to disconnect. :P

tishtar
06-14-2014, 11:47
As a workaround you can create your own temporary network to play with your partner. Just use the Network menu option in Hamachi.
you can also kick all the players who aren't in the tournament from the network.

vartan
06-14-2014, 14:52
you can also kick all the players who aren't in the tournament from the network.

Except I can't. I don't own the network. Our patron seems to be away the past few month so please, remember there are still options :)

Sepehr Kurden Madig
06-14-2014, 18:50
Guys how can i contact my opponent ? I dont know where to find him !

vartan
06-14-2014, 21:52
Guys how can i contact my opponent ? I dont know where to find him !

http://challonge.com/ebot_summer_2014

Looks like your opponent is not here yet. I reminded the folks at the TWC to write in this thread.

tishtar
06-15-2014, 08:16
I have a small question.
how are we supposed to report the outcome of battles?

linuslinothorax
06-15-2014, 15:00
I have a small question.
how are we supposed to report the outcome of battles?

Screenshot i guess.

I think there is a little mistake: Gaelstrix IS the celtic viking, in the current bracket he has to fight me and one other dude.

BroskiDerpman
06-15-2014, 16:55
Nah all you need is to report your win against your opponent w/replays

I.e

Jim 2-1 Bob


Replay links here:

Game 1: link

Game 2: link

Game3: link

The Celtic Viking
06-15-2014, 18:29
Screenshot i guess.

I think there is a little mistake: Gaelstrix IS the celtic viking, in the current bracket he has to fight me and one other dude.

No, Gaelstrix is most certainly not me. Don't know where you got that from, mate. I will send you a PM re: our game though.

Adalingum
06-15-2014, 19:31
http://challonge.com/ebot_summer_2014

I reminded the folks at the TWC to write in this thread.

My mistake, I forgot to reply here :creep:. Anyway, I'm looking for a Mr (or Mrs, although I consider that somewhat unlikely, given my opponents username) King of the Ring. If you read this, could you please reply here or send me a pm? I don't know how to search for members on this website.

Adalingum / Cohors_Evocata

vartan
06-16-2014, 05:17
Looks like tishtar is moving on, having won 2-0 against Jiub. I hope you enjoyed your match [=

Since I did not make it a strict requirement to post replay links (I was late to mention this), I will accept results as long as both players are in agreement. The replays, for something like this elimination tournament, would only be handy if there was a dispute. I hope that's alright!

Gealstrix
06-16-2014, 17:59
Hi, just a post to let you know I'm here now; been instructed to post in this thread. Me and my opponent are having our match tomorrow night.

BroskiDerpman
06-18-2014, 16:25
I left the network to allow others to play and I'll come back later but now it seems to be full. I do not know where else to contact mrbasso.

My steam profile is here.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/boodinkymaster

The Celtic Viking
06-18-2014, 22:48
I barely made it past linuslinothorax with a 2-1 score.

vartan
06-21-2014, 16:29
I barely made it past linuslinothorax with a 2-1 score.

Hope you had fun TCV (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?16466-The-Celtic-Viking)! Enjoy your match with madmatg (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?14881-madmatg).

BroskiDerpman
06-21-2014, 18:27
Is there anyway to try to contact Mr.Basso? I've tried searching on google, etc. I've found traces of him on Taleworlds forum but no luck in getting the match started.

I've also managed to get on the hamachi network and no luck there either. Is he active on TWC?

I don't know show I'll be able to progress through this tournament as there's no round deadlines or anything of that sort. I'm guessing I'll be stuck until my opponent suddenly appears back on when everyone else is on like round 4 or something?

Sepehr Kurden Madig
06-21-2014, 21:00
wow wow wow ! me and gaelstrix ! the matchs were just amazing ! over the top !! i won 2-1 from him but man he was awesome ! thanks man for the great matches :D and yeah i just wanted to inform i won the matches with a verrrrrrrrrryyyy close battle from gaelstrix !

Gealstrix
06-21-2014, 21:04
Here to confirm my valiant defeat of 1-2 to Sepehr :D
I'm glad I have those replays, hope to play you another time or on EB2.
Good luck, I hope you go far in the tournament!

TWmodding
06-24-2014, 00:10
Ooji my troops are waiting :D

BroskiDerpman
06-25-2014, 00:27
I have been searching mr. Basso for quite a while. I will check one last time tomorrow.

Hopefully mr.basso will be on then so we can play our matches.

If not I think it is just for me to move on to the next round and play whoever is next; this has been quite frustrating for myself.

The Wise Coffin
06-25-2014, 10:31
My opponent is Quetzalcoatl, when can i face him?
I already try to talk to him but he doesn't respond!

Sepehr Kurden Madig
06-26-2014, 16:16
Come on ! what kind of tournament is this ? no one is active ! why when they dont want to play they sign up and keep everyone waiting ?! 2 weeks and only 3 matchs ? its just frustrating waiting around and nothing happening ! at least if others played i would have gladly followed the results and matches and asked about others strategies and ... if something is don about this it will be great !

vartan
06-27-2014, 01:15
The Wise Coffin, have you been in touch with him by PM (Private Message)? I imagine you have already set up a time and day to face him.
Sepehr Kurden Madig, please be patient as you are one of only two people to advance to the next round.

I will be updating this post (and the OP) later tonight with some information on how to play if the Hamachi network is full.

vartan
06-27-2014, 02:18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SpwQ1gXiiQ

Information on how to connect if the Hamachi network is full.

BroskiDerpman
06-29-2014, 05:34
Good stuff, I've also been told one could run mods for RTW on game ranger but I'll have to look into that more.

Sepehr Kurden Madig
06-29-2014, 09:26
vartan i know i must be patient but dont you agree that this is going to slow ? i mean come on at least they can announce they are available or say that : yeah were here .. were around and ...
the problem isnt their matches ! its them being available ! you know what i mean ? i mean that some of them signed up and then no sign of them ! and i think some of the players are having problems contacting their opponents ...

Kranos
06-29-2014, 17:12
back from my long short holiday. It seems I havent missed allot.
Damn this is critical. Hamachi is full in the worst moment but it was predictable since I couldn nag people about leaving the network during my departure.

Thnak you Vartan finally the Evolve tutorial. Did anyone tetsed it? Will work with hamachi not being disabled? what should be its place in the adaptor priority list?

still most of the people that have that invisibility problem in the lobby they will probbaly have it with Evolve too. I have kept a list with all that failed to play due to this and its a long one.
Myabe its that port forwarding thing. Can you do a tutorial on that one too pls!

tishtar
06-30-2014, 07:07
in my case, the invisibility problem was caused by hamachi being recognized as a public untrusted network by Bitdefender.
I am pretty sure that is the reason for most of the people with the invisibility problem.
other than that, I am inclined to agree with sepehr. the tournament started 2 weeks ago, and still only three matches have been decided.
why people who can't/don't want to play join is beyond me....

Kranos
06-30-2014, 10:45
Nope its not just that. That is among the first things I urge the respective players to check.

vartan
06-30-2014, 18:54
Well if anyone has connectivity problems, they haven't come to me. We're in the round of 16 (just like FIFA!) but we're waiting on 6 matches to be played so we can move on to the round of 8. It's been 2 weeks already guys =] let's do this!

Kranos
06-30-2014, 19:53
well some of them already asked for help here at multiplayer forum. Ulises or {V.O.D}_Quetzalcoatl which is in the tourney has it. There are many other from TWC, the most recent ones that prove to have it are Duke Valentino , Eird , Yerevan , Summary etc.How could you help them besides witht hat port forwarding thing?

I will talk with he guys in the tourney that havent showed up but probably many of them havent try playing through hamachi yet and they will have this conectivity issue.

regarding hamachi: those 5 slots free networks can be managed by those who create them eg can I kick the offline players?

for those who want to play with me or met me at hamachi Ive created mine

ID: EB Online-Orphydian
pass: eb


I have to try evolve I have no alternative now with hamachi full. So hamachi should be disabled or only turned off when you are using Evolve?


Im awaiting all of you to test it better

vartan
06-30-2014, 22:41
I use Hamachi and Evolve simultaneously (i.e., at the same time). They have never conflicted for me. A priori, you may power off the Hamachi client if you feel so inclined.

I mentioned that people may create temporary networks on Hamachi and PM their opponent the relevant information so that they may play their tournament matches. Evolve is an alternative to this, and will be the primary platform for EB2 Online.

And yes, if you create a network using the menu in the Hamachi client, you have full admin control over the network.

madmatg
07-01-2014, 01:33
Me and my partner are in communication we just have missed each other a few times, we'll get it sooner or later

BroskiDerpman
07-02-2014, 02:02
No signs from mrbasso.

vartan
07-03-2014, 14:18
No signs from mrbasso.

I'm on a mission to translate some Immanuel Kant from German to English. I'll be done within the next four or so hours. If by the time I return from this mission I haven't heard from mrbasso, I'm advancing BroskiDerpman to the next round. Just putting this here for the record and so we have a rough timeline. Wouldn't call it short notice since it's been a week or longer!

sonnet
07-03-2014, 21:20
May I ask if it's possible to join the tournament?

TWmodding
07-03-2014, 22:47
sonnet you may take my place.... me and ooji have technical problems with Hamachi after multiple hours it isn't fixed.
Ooji surrenderd so i abdicate and you may take the command against BroskiDerpman

Kranos
07-04-2014, 10:20
first and foremost lets see if sonnet can play



for those who want to play with me or meet me at hamachi Illl created several "mini-networks" by demand.

ID: EB Online-Orphydian, EB Online-Orphydian2, EB Online-Orphydian3 etc.

Password: eb

I would suggest all of the players use this standard

vartan
07-05-2014, 20:00
If I may just confirm with Ooji that he has conceded to TWModding, then I don't see why sonnet can't take his spot since TWModding is willing to give his spot to you.

Thanks for helping people out Orphydian.

EDIT: Stormrage and Sepehr Kurden Madig, please arrange your match. Maximus Rosarius and Hoplite of Ilis have not been heard from here for about 3 weeks now, due to their work. I am thus, with all due respect, advancing Stormrage so that he and Sepehr can proceed to their match. I know both have just been waiting, sorry guys!

J5298333
07-06-2014, 04:53
Hey all , I would be happy to jump into this tournament against whoever if you all end up needing another fill - in person. This is assuming that I have no connection issues and can play. Vartan I will see you monday night on evolve I have not forgot and thanks again. It is good to see everybody in the EB community helping each other out I love it!

Sepehr Kurden Madig
07-06-2014, 10:12
Hi stormage ! if you can play the matches by tonight it will be great because im on vacation but by luck i found a computer that has rome in one of my reletives computer and i will only have access to it till tomorrow so if we can play by tonight it will be great if not you have to wait for 4 days (hope your ok with waiting a bit more) and if you just dont feel like waiting :P its ok if you want to advance ;)

tishtar
07-07-2014, 14:58
vartan, I think you should do something about wise coffin and quetzelcoatl too.

Adalingum
07-07-2014, 22:34
Shot off another pm at king of the ring (first one 2/3 weeks ago). Since I'll be gone for a while soon I might withdraw, but I'll report here should that come to pass

Cohors_Evocata / Adalingum

vartan
07-08-2014, 05:11
Darn. Alright, I've got sonnet in for TWModding, awaiting an opponent. Cohors_Evocata/Adalingum, I'm sorry! I'll PM King of the Ring to see if I get a response. Sorry for the inconvenience. tishtar I'll PM Wise Coffin and Quetzalcoatl as well to see if I get a response, thanks for the heads up.

sonnet
07-08-2014, 08:56
Darn. Alright, I've got sonnet in for TWModding, awaiting an opponent. Cohors_Evocata/Adalingum, I'm sorry! I'll PM King of the Ring to see if I get a response. Sorry for the inconvenience. tishtar I'll PM Wise Coffin and Quetzalcoatl as well to see if I get a response, thanks for the heads up.
vartan : sorry I have to withdraw for the moment. I thought I could make it work hamachi with Linux, as I'm using RTW on wine with LInux.
Until I figure this out ,I have to withdraw. Again, sorry

Adalingum
07-08-2014, 09:02
@ Vartan: Oops, my bad, I didn't expect you (or anybody else here, for that matter) to respond like that. I should've specified that I did receive a reply to my first pm, it's just that king of the ring wasn't set up yet at the time. My previous post was a notification of my own possible lack of time, not an accusation towards king of the ring, but I agree, it was very badly worded. Again, my apologies. It wasn't my intent to mislead.

vartan
07-08-2014, 15:23
@vartan (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=32965) : sorry I have to withdraw for the moment. I thought I could make it work hamachi with Linux, as I'm using RTW on wine with LInux.
Until I figure this out ,I have to withdraw. Again, sorry

You'll be better off running it inside VirtualBox on a copy of WinXP or Win7. Let me know if you're sure then that you won't be playing.


@ Vartan: Oops, my bad, I didn't expect you (or anybody else here, for that matter) to respond like that. I should've specified that I did receive a reply to my first pm, it's just that king of the ring wasn't set up yet at the time. My previous post was a notification of my own possible lack of time, not an accusation towards king of the ring, but I agree, it was very badly worded. Again, my apologies. It wasn't my intent to mislead.

No problem. I just want to make sure whether you two are going to be able to play or not. He mentioned when he registered on the TWC that he may or may not be able to play, so that's a factor I need to consider.

BroskiDerpman
07-09-2014, 16:29
So am I versus Sonnet now?

Just for your knowledge I will not be available next week but will be available after that.

vartan
07-10-2014, 19:38
So am I versus Sonnet now?

Just for your knowledge I will not be available next week but will be available after that.

MrBasso hasn't come forward so I'll advance you. Sonnet withdrew so the only person who is on standby to take his place is J5298333. I'll update the bracket to reflect this now.

Note: The server has been down the last day or two and I've been very upset, dealing with the company that hosts the server. I'm working each night to get it back to work asap. I'll put the link to the Factional Units List here so people can access it.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlbznXMIP8JJdHJvNUVTdlNjNVBlUS1PS1dWaHl1Qnc&usp=sharing

Adalingum
07-11-2014, 12:50
Since I'll be gone for about a week after tomorrow, I'll leave it to the organisers here to decide how to deal with my participation. As of writing, I have yet to receive a reply to my recent pm to king of the ring.

J5298333
07-13-2014, 02:49
Again like I posted in the other thread I am super honored to be able to be in the tourny if I can but .... it is contingent on me getting hamachi to work to where I can actually connect to some 1 .

vartan
07-15-2014, 07:19
Since I'll be gone for about a week after tomorrow, I'll leave it to the organisers here to decide how to deal with my participation. As of writing, I have yet to receive a reply to my recent pm to king of the ring.
No matter. Hopefully by the time you return, King of the Ring will be available to play with you.

Again like I posted in the other thread I am super honored to be able to be in the tourny if I can but .... it is contingent on me getting hamachi to work to where I can actually connect to some 1 .
I private messaged you J, please see your inbox. Thank you.

tishtar
07-15-2014, 09:37
vartan, did wise coffin answer your message? I talked to him on hamachi and he told me that he had messaged quetzalcoatl and received no answer.

The Celtic Viking
07-15-2014, 16:52
News: The Romano-Celtic army of TCV has just defeated the Graeco-Iberian armies of madmatg. Put me up for a 2-0 victory.

madmatg
07-15-2014, 16:56
News: The Romano-Celtic army of TCV has just defeated the Graeco-Iberian armies of madmatg. Put me up for a 2-0 victory.
True[emoji22]

vartan
07-15-2014, 19:00
TCV and madmatg, thank you for playing. Congrats on your victory TCV, sorry about the loss madmatg, but I'm glad you joined us! Please stick with us to play as many friendly matches as you want. Also, if you'll be playing EB2, I'd be glad to see you on board for that as well! You too TCV.


@vartan (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=32965), did wise coffin answer your message? I talked to him on hamachi and he told me that he had messaged @quetzalcoatl (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/member.php?u=33700) and received no answer.

Hi Tishtar. Thank you for reminding me. It has been just over a week since my message to Quetzalcoatl with no response so I will advance The Wise Coffin and notify him of this. Thus you will have your awaited match. Thank you.

tishtar
07-16-2014, 06:04
Hi vartan, thanks, I am aiming to be first one through again!
by the way, what has happened to the network? only me and our brave sir robin are still standing.
also, I have a question. can we organize another (EB2) tourney a month or so after EB2 comes out?
that way, we might have a chance to play with the dev team.
P.S : it might not be appropriate to ask this, but are you and Robin in the dev team?

Brave Brave Sir Robin
07-17-2014, 01:43
Hello everyone, its good to see EBO is still going strong! Sorry for my being away for so long, life has been very, very busy and continues to be so.

To answer your question Tishtar the network is empty because I booted all the inactives. I know I was far too late in doing this but hopefully now there won't be any more issues with Hamachi for a time. I'll try to keep an eye on it more often.

I would ask Vartan about setting up another tourney since I can't say that I have time to organize or participate in one but I don't personally foresee any difficulties with that. As far as I'm concerned, the network is free to use by anyone who enjoys EB and playing online. I only ask that you mainly try to utilize it for EBO (or EBO II).

As for the dev team question, I wish that I were. ~;)

vartan
07-17-2014, 07:11
As Robin said, he purged the network of offline members that had not left the network when signing off. Also, as I've mentioned briefly before, my plan is to shift EB Online from EB to EB2. This means I will be hosting tournaments for EB2. (Note: I cannot promise any prize pool as I've done here because the current tournament is exceptional, and the only way I could offer something regularly would be to have an entry fee for tournaments. I want EBO to be free to all, so I will not go that route.)

EB was arguably developed with single player (SP) in mind. If this is also the case with EB2, I completely support the dev team, because I think SP campaigns are the essence of this mod. Now, if the dev team would like to dabble in MP, whether casually or by participating in tournaments, I welcome it. I think it would help in the way of balancing for MP, if they choose to do that. If not, that's alright, as the EBO community has always been helpful in tweaking our custom stats for online play.

I am not a member of the EB dev team. EBO is a project I began after the successful 2009 tournament we somehow got together. It was the only tournament I participated in, and I wanted to see more such events, so I started organizing. I hope you weren't around to see the older iteration of the website. I'm no web designer so my aims are purely functional, not aesthetic. If anyone would like to help in that department, please, be my guest. I couldn't design to save my life :-p

Robin, thank you for coming on. Your timing is not bad, thank you so much. As for a busy life, tell me about it man. Between family, friends, and grad school, I don't know how I'm still here. I just want to support EB in my own little way. It has given us plenty, and I can only try and give back what I can.

Regarding technicalities between Hamachi and Evolve, I'll give updates as I can. It's particularly difficult because unlike many of the players, I'm usually behind a special network (work or academic-related), and this means a particular setup that is a hindrance to my testing connections with players. For the next five weeks, however, I am on a home network like most of you, and so I'll have a chance to test as much as possible. Thank you all for your patience.

BroskiDerpman
07-18-2014, 13:54
I'll be back tomorrow. (Might be on today)

Sepehr Kurden Madig
07-20-2014, 15:40
No news from stormage ... i did send him a pm about 2-1 weeks ago ... so what should i do ?

-Stormrage-
07-20-2014, 23:17
No news from stormage ... i did send him a pm about 2-1 weeks ago ... so what should i do ?

Im at +3 gmt what time would be good for you :) ?

Adalingum
07-21-2014, 15:48
Back from my trip, yet still no pm from my opponent

vartan
07-21-2014, 20:17
Back from my trip, yet still no pm from my opponent
Hi there. Haven't logged in for about five days, sorry! I'll move you forward since your opposition hasn't expressed his presence. TCV vs Cohors Evocata (aka Adalingum), best of luck and enjoy.

BroskiDerpman
07-22-2014, 19:24
My opponent vanished. O.o Sigh... I'm beginning to lose interest when all my opponents don't really post here about when they can play. If they post here about when they can play (And their EB works on hamachi; mine does) then I can suggest time we can meet.

BroskiDerpman
07-23-2014, 19:02
Double posting...

Ok I give up on this tournament, I haven't even played one match yet and this tournament is just dragging out too long for how much people there is in it. All my opponents haven't really posted here in this thread so I've lost my hope of even bothering to check hamachi.

Sepehr Kurden Madig
07-24-2014, 22:10
hey storm im sorry i didnt see your post till now :D ok im ready almost always :P we should cordinate our match via private message .

tishtar
07-25-2014, 11:09
tishtar's phalanxes defeated their counter parts in wise coffin's army, to yield a score of 2-0 in favor of Tishtar.

BroskiDerpman
07-25-2014, 15:11
Edit: Yeah I'd like to withdraw please.

vartan
07-26-2014, 07:28
tishtar's phalanxes defeated their counter parts in wise coffin's army, to yield a score of 2-0 in favor of Tishtar.
Congratulations. I will enter in your match score now.

Edit: Yeah I'd like to withdraw please.
Aww =(

I'm sorry...

lmt96
07-27-2014, 08:21
I guess I'm ages late to the tournament.
I'm looking forward to next year's tournament, probably on EB2 :P.
Just came to say hi

tishtar
07-27-2014, 19:06
vartan, can't you give him broski's place?

vartan
07-27-2014, 19:15
Hi LMT. Tishtar, I know LMT from a while back. Since nobody else is waiting for a spot, I'll put you in the bracket LMT. Your opponent will be J5298333, with whom you'll need to arrange a time to play (PM each other). He needs help connecting so I'll try and meet with him Monday evening to make sure he's ready to play.

Note: There was a Steam update to Rome a day or two ago and I'll be making a video as soon as I get a chance discussing the implications of this, and how it affects us.

Sepehr Kurden Madig
07-29-2014, 19:55
stormage ? come on ! how many more days i should wait for you to respond ?

vartan
07-30-2014, 03:22
stormage ? come on ! how many more days i should wait for you to respond ?

Dear SKM, did you PM Stormrage?

Sepehr Kurden Madig
07-30-2014, 05:43
Dear SKM, did you PM Stormrage?

well i did PM him once, two-three weeks ago ... and he answered me here (not in PM) about a week ago that he is available and when we should play our match ... i said im always online and no answers from him ...

vartan
08-01-2014, 06:46
well i did PM him once, two-three weeks ago ... and he answered me here (not in PM) about a week ago that he is available and when we should play our match ... i said im always online and no answers from him ...

Alright, no problem mate. I'll send him a message and hopefully he'll get back to you asap. Cheers.

Sepehr Kurden Madig
08-08-2014, 11:01
Alright, no problem mate. I'll send him a message and hopefully he'll get back to you asap. Cheers.

Hey dude this is taking too long ...

vartan
08-12-2014, 02:22
Hey dude this is taking too long ...

Sorry buddy, waiting for not only yours, but two other battles as well. Tishtar is waiting, too [=

The Celtic Viking
08-12-2014, 16:51
Sorry buddy, waiting for not only yours, but two other battles as well. Tishtar is waiting, too [=

Yeah, I won't be able to play my battle until next week I believe as my opponent doesn't have access to his PC until then. Just gotta be patient.

tishtar
08-13-2014, 10:25
Sorry buddy, waiting for not only yours, but two other battles as well. Tishtar is waiting, too [=
the Persian are no strangers to waiting, vartan-san.
it seems to me that sepehr, celtic and myself are the only "Active" players in the tourney. I don't think jinsert_large_number is actually in the forums, and despite his initial enthuthiasm stormrage in nowhere to be found.
I hate complaining, I really do. but seriously people, why do you join if you can't participate? half the matches have been ruled in favour of one side due to the absence of the other.
I just hope it gets better with EB2

vartan
08-16-2014, 07:13
the Persian are no strangers to waiting, vartan-san.
it seems to me that sepehr, celtic and myself are the only "Active" players in the tourney. I don't think jinsert_large_number is actually in the forums, and despite his initial enthuthiasm stormrage in nowhere to be found.
I hate complaining, I really do. but seriously people, why do you join if you can't participate? half the matches have been ruled in favour of one side due to the absence of the other.
I just hope it gets better with EB2

I could not have said it better myself. We will simply host score-based tournaments as we always have before. That way, people can participate no matter if they can only play a few days of the month or every single day.

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Adalingum
08-18-2014, 20:11
@ The Celtic Viking.

My sincerest apologies for not going online today. I've already sent a pm with the details about why I couldn't play.

J5298333
08-25-2014, 02:21
Hey all , my apologies for being out of contact for a while. Have been busy and also was super dooperly frustrated with not being able to get this game to work online with you all. You can pretty much count me out of this tourny b/c as far as I know I still cannot connect with anyone over hamachi. Perhaps when EB2 comes out ( YAY ) I will make one last attempt to get connected with others online. Vartan thank you again for the time you spent helping me test online. Orphydian thank you as well for your help. for anyones knowledge of what the problem might be I have followed all of the instructions in vartans video and still cannot see other players in the in game lobby nor can they see me. I have windows 8 ( spit ! ) . Thanks again to you all have fun with the tourny it is still an awesome idea and I'm sure we will have a lot of players for EB2 ( YAY )

Sepehr Kurden Madig
08-25-2014, 11:43
Vartan ... come on man you got to help me out here ! its about a month that there is no news from stormage ... come on move me up in the tournement !

vartan
08-26-2014, 05:17
Alright then guys. We're moving forward it seems. No word from Storm, and J is out. I sincerely hope the rest of you all have fun with your remaining battles. Good luck to all!

Sepehr Kurden Madig
08-29-2014, 11:04
i hope i can do my two last matches in 7 days ( - 100% that happening) if not then i will not be available for 10-20 days and i hope that is ok if not then ill be quiting from the tournement ! hope i could do the matches ...

vartan
08-30-2014, 18:16
LMT confirms he's not playing. SKM will play the winner of the match between TCV and Cohors_Evocata/Adalingum.

EDIT: Please disregard the bronze match, it is irrelevant to the tournament but shows up anyway on the bracket.

Sepehr Kurden Madig
09-01-2014, 09:02
Hi Vartan , I was looking back at my comments and i realized that the way i said things or talked to you was inappropriate , i was just too much demanding and giving orders and ... i just wanted to say that im sorry if i misbehaved and didnt act good as i was supposed to ! you have been a great tournament host and i really appreciate it as everybody does . keep up the good work and im sorry again for the way i behaved earlier :)

tishtar
09-01-2014, 11:37
are TCV and Cohores here? the last time any of them was heard of was two weeks ago.
it is worth mentioning that I did saw TCV at hamachi yesterday, but he didn't seem to be answering.
so, please pm them vartan, because I believe that the semesters have already started in the western world which means that if the tourney doesn't end now, It will probably drag along till some holiday.

vartan
09-02-2014, 23:33
Hi Vartan , I was looking back at my comments and i realized that the way i said things or talked to you was inappropriate , i was just too much demanding and giving orders and ... i just wanted to say that im sorry if i misbehaved and didnt act good as i was supposed to ! you have been a great tournament host and i really appreciate it as everybody does . keep up the good work and im sorry again for the way i behaved earlier :)

No problem SKM. I completely understand; I'm sorry for any inconveniences along the way.


are TCV and Cohores here? the last time any of them was heard of was two weeks ago.
it is worth mentioning that I did saw TCV at hamachi yesterday, but he didn't seem to be answering.
so, please pm them vartan, because I believe that the semesters have already started in the western world which means that if the tourney doesn't end now, It will probably drag along till some holiday.

Very good point tishtar. Our semester has begun today. I'll PM them right now and see what their status is, thanks!

Sepehr Kurden Madig
09-04-2014, 16:15
Hey Vartan ! I was looking around the site and saw you have won the patron award ! congratulation you deserve it :)

The Celtic Viking
09-05-2014, 18:55
are TCV and Cohores here? the last time any of them was heard of was two weeks ago.
it is worth mentioning that I did saw TCV at hamachi yesterday, but he didn't seem to be answering.
so, please pm them vartan, because I believe that the semesters have already started in the western world which means that if the tourney doesn't end now, It will probably drag along till some holiday.

Yes, I am here. I apologize for letting it take this long, I will try to get my match done ASAP.

The Celtic Viking
09-07-2014, 16:43
Okay, our games are now played and I won this round 2-0. Bring it on, Tishtar!

vartan
09-08-2014, 20:31
Okay, our games are now played and I won this round 2-0. Bring it on, Tishtar!

Congrats! I hope you two enjoyed your battle. Good luck TCV and Tishtar!

tishtar
09-23-2014, 13:10
Are you back tcv? It has been two weeks.

The Celtic Viking
09-28-2014, 01:29
Are you back tcv? It has been two weeks.

I was never gone. I've been on Hamachi when I've been able, looking for you, but you've never been there when I was. Did you not log on at all because you thought I was away somewhere, for some reason?

tishtar
09-28-2014, 16:10
Yes, you told me that you were away for at least a few days.I expected you to notify me when you were back

Sepehr Kurden Madig
10-09-2014, 20:33
Is there a Guinness world record for the longest tournament ever held ? :P if so i think we deserve it ! :D come on ! tcv and tishtar get on with the match ! we are all getting really tired of all this waiting . :yes:

vartan
10-10-2014, 01:07
Is there a Guinness world record for the longest tournament ever held ? :P if so i think we deserve it ! :D come on ! tcv and tishtar get on with the match ! we are all getting really tired of all this waiting . :yes:

Look at the bright side, we're all going to be world record holders!

The Celtic Viking
10-11-2014, 18:59
Is there a Guinness world record for the longest tournament ever held ? :P if so i think we deserve it ! :D come on ! tcv and tishtar get on with the match ! we are all getting really tired of all this waiting . :yes:

Done, TCV wins 2-0.

By the way, we noticed while playing that the rule against stacking phalanxes is gone. When and why was it removed?

tishtar
10-12-2014, 13:00
Done, TCV wins 2-0.

By the way, we noticed while playing that the rule against stacking phalanxes is gone. When and why was it removed?
yes, I confirm this

vartan
10-13-2014, 01:16
Done, TCV wins 2-0.

By the way, we noticed while playing that the rule against stacking phalanxes is gone. When and why was it removed?


yes, I confirm this

Which rule was this exactly? Could you recall its formulation, more or less? I remember the rule restricting unrealistic movements of pikes. I think unit stacking rules were removed a long time ago, because they haven't been in for at least a year or two...(?)

I hope you guys had fun. Thank you for participating, and making the time to play! Keep on playing; looking forward to multiplayer as EBII develops and matures.

Best,
V

Sepehr Kurden Madig
10-26-2014, 13:17
hey celtic viking ! ready to play the final whenever you are ! just pm me or say it here and then we will do the match :)

The Celtic Viking
10-28-2014, 19:50
Which rule was this exactly? Could you recall its formulation, more or less? I remember the rule restricting unrealistic movements of pikes. I think unit stacking rules were removed a long time ago, because they haven't been in for at least a year or two...(?)

I hope you guys had fun. Thank you for participating, and making the time to play! Keep on playing; looking forward to multiplayer as EBII develops and matures.

Best,
V

I don't recall the formulation, no, just that it was one of the rules and I was curious as to when and why it was removed because I don't remember that happening. No big deal, just curiousity, though I still think it was a good rule to have.


hey celtic viking ! ready to play the final whenever you are ! just pm me or say it here and then we will do the match :)

Hullo! I've sent you a PM about it.

vartan
11-02-2014, 00:24
I don't recall the formulation, no, just that it was one of the rules and I was curious as to when and why it was removed because I don't remember that happening. No big deal, just curiousity, though I still think it was a good rule to have.

It is a busy semester, but I might have the old website backed up somewhere. So what I will do is try to find it and PM you the old rule set.

Sepehr Kurden Madig
11-02-2014, 12:47
Hey TCV ! i saw your message 3 days ago and since then i have been trying to send you a replay about 4 times ... no success ! anyways i would be happy to play with you today ! and about skyrim the thing is i own it to and i want EU4 so im sorry :)

The Celtic Viking
11-03-2014, 22:54
Hey TCV ! i saw your message 3 days ago and since then i have been trying to send you a replay about 4 times ... no success ! anyways i would be happy to play with you today ! and about skyrim the thing is i own it to and i want EU4 so im sorry :)

Yes, I got your PM now and I've responded. Hope it went through. ^^


It is a busy semester, but I might have the old website backed up somewhere. So what I will do is try to find it and PM you the old rule set.

Cheers.

Sepehr Kurden Madig
11-15-2014, 14:52
Hi Vartan ! My hamachi isnt working anymore , TCV said you are good with technical stuff . so i wanted to see if its possible for you to see if you can fix it ! The problem seems to be that it fails to connect to the network adapter and Peer is not accessible via VPN . If you can somehow fix this problem , I would really be thankful .:yes:

vartan
11-16-2014, 06:12
Hi Vartan ! My hamachi isnt working anymore , TCV said you are good with technical stuff . so i wanted to see if its possible for you to see if you can fix it ! The problem seems to be that it fails to connect to the network adapter and Peer is not accessible via VPN . If you can somehow fix this problem , I would really be thankful .:yes:

I'll send you a PM so we can communicate there.

Sepehr Kurden Madig
11-26-2014, 21:00
Vartan ? why dont you answer me ?

The Celtic Viking
11-29-2014, 22:13
So is nothing happening and you still can't play?

BroskiDerpman
11-30-2014, 17:52
I can be substitute player lol.

BroskiDerpman
12-02-2014, 01:24
Though yeah my offer is still up just in case. My hamachi works 100% as I have played folks on the EB online network many times, I have taken a long hiatus but I am back for some action haha.

vartan
12-02-2014, 05:07
Sorry, I've been away. SKM I PMed you. Broski thanks for the offer. I'll let the players decide what they think should be their next step, given the precarious situation with SKM's connection formerly working/no longer working apparently.

The Celtic Viking
12-16-2014, 17:10
Quick update, last week my router Went kaputt and so I've no internet access at home for the moment. The replacement should come some time this week but until it does I will be unable to play or even communicate with anyone. Clearly no ill fortune comes alone. How's it going with SKM? Have you concluded there is no way for him to sort out his probem/s?

BroskiDerpman
05-28-2015, 05:13
Any news? :,(

My offer to substitute is still available, perhaps someone else can substitute too? This has the potential to finish along with some nice matches, who doesn't like a quality EB battle? :bow:

vartan
06-01-2015, 09:07
Any news? :,(

My offer to substitute is still available, perhaps someone else can substitute too? This has the potential to finish along with some nice matches, who doesn't like a quality EB battle? :bow:

Hi there. Sorry, but consider the tournament concluded. Feel free to arrange matches as you wish. I've just let this one slide away slowly, and contacted the final couple of players silently via PM. Sorry man! I'm also swamped, but that said, the lack of action on both this forum and the EB forum have made me hesitate in arranging another tournament.

BroskiDerpman
06-06-2015, 17:04
Ah drats :(